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Chuck in the Morning 9/9 H3: 12th Man Roundtable with Ian, Softy & Dick · Chuck in the Morning

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, what a special night we've got for you tonight.
• 0:23
  Speaker 2: Right here in Seattle, it is the start of the
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  Speaker 2: National Football League season. The Seattle Seahawks, world champions, getting
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  Speaker 2: set to take on the New England Patriots, who they
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: defeated in the Super Bowl a few months ago. The
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  Speaker 2: 2026 season is about to kick off, and when you
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  Speaker 2: have a big event like this, you bring big people
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  Speaker 2: to your show and you do special things. We are
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  Speaker 2: going to have a roundtable here today, special edition roundtable
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: for you here on the radio program. And even though
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: we normally have Hugh, Juan, and Greg for our roundtable
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: every week, We had Greg on in his normal slot
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: at 7.05. We're going to have Hugh on at 9
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: o'clock with X's and O's, and I wanted all hands
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  Speaker 2: in on this. They're going to be broadcasting for you
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  Speaker 2: all day from Jimmy's on first, so I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: get them on the show together here this morning so
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  Speaker 2: we could celebrate some Seahawks football in the start of
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  Speaker 2: the National Football League season.
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  Speaker 3: It is a roundtable with.
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  Speaker 2: Ian Furness, Dick Fane, and David Softy Mahler as we
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  Speaker 2: get things cranked.
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  Speaker 3: Up here on this Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: Gentlemen, thank you so much. Happy opening day to all
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  Speaker 2: of you. Great to see you. Thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 2: And I want to start with, Dick, I want you
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  Speaker 2: to show some love for your favorite morning host who
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  Speaker 2: no longer assembles you on a weekly basis for something
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  Speaker 2: like this. And this is just a rare occasion that
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  Speaker 2: we get together and do a roundtable.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: This is a lot better.
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  Speaker 5: I love it.
• 2:00
  Speaker 4: I know Softie's on very frequently. I think you should
• 2:04
  Speaker 4: have him on more often.
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  Speaker 5: You think so? Every day.
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  Speaker 3: Earlier in the morning? Like 6 a.m.
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  Speaker 2: Hour.
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  Speaker 3: 6.30 maybe?
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  Speaker 2: Daily?
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  Speaker 3: That's a great idea. The Daily with Softie. I like it. Hey,
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  Speaker 3: you know what? I'm just excited to be here.
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  Speaker 6: I cannot think of a better way to kick off
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  Speaker 6: the Seahawks season than by talking to you bozos. I
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  Speaker 6: went to bed last night and I told my wife,
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  Speaker 6: you know, tomorrow's going to be fun, but man, am
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  Speaker 6: I really excited to go on the air at eight
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  Speaker 6: o'clock with Chuck Dick and Ian Furness. So thank you
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  Speaker 6: guys for making my dreams come true on this Wednesday morning.
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  Speaker 3: You are welcome, buddy. Really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We're here for you. There's no question about that.
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  Speaker 2: Why am I not seeing you on the Zoom call?
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  Speaker 2: Are you in bed naked or something like that?
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  Speaker 3: You can't join us?
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  Speaker 6: That's 100% what's happening. I am buck naked in bed.
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  Speaker 6: And if you'd like to see me, I can turn
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  Speaker 6: the video on. But I don't think that's anything anybody
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  Speaker 6: wants to look at.
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  Speaker 3: No, we don't want that. No, we'll just listen to you.
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  Speaker 3: Let me give you a little preview here. All right,
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  Speaker 3: there you go. What's up, boys? Okay, see you later.
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  Speaker 5: I'm out of here.
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  Speaker 1: Bye.
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  Speaker 3: That's all you need.
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  Speaker 5: All you need.
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  Speaker 1: And that was not a banana, by the way. What
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  Speaker 1: was on that other computer screen there?
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  Speaker 3: No, no. You had your peek. You had your peek.
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  Speaker 3: That's it. That's all.
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  Speaker 5: Well, if that wasn't a company computer.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, listen. What happens in Des Moines stays in Des Moines, boys.
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  Speaker 6: Especially at 8 o'clock on a Wednesday morning.
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  Speaker 3: Of the NFL opener. How weird is this, by the way?
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  Speaker 3: It's Wednesday. It's Wednesday.
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  Speaker 6: Apple Cup's on a Sunday. Chuck, the Seahawks start on
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  Speaker 6: a Wednesday. The hell's going on around here?
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  Speaker 3: You know what? Football's here.
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  Speaker 2: That's what matters. And so, yeah, we're going to celebrate
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  Speaker 2: Wednesday like nothing else. And I kind of want to
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  Speaker 2: start there, Ian, like just the event that we're going
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  Speaker 2: to experience tonight. I've been around a few cities. I
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  Speaker 2: know you've been around a few cities. Is there anybody
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  Speaker 2: that does this better, the big event, than Seattle, Washington?
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  Speaker 2: I think we are spectacular at it here.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I think there's a lot of things to play.
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  Speaker 1: One of the things to play is where the stadium is. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's part of it. I mean, most, it
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  Speaker 1: feels like almost every NFL stadium, you know, is outside
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  Speaker 1: of the city. Cincinnati's downtown, maybe Cleveland, I guess is,
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  Speaker 1: but really by and large, most of them are away
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  Speaker 1: from the beaten path. The fact that we're right down
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  Speaker 1: in Soto, there's going to be, I hear, I haven't
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  Speaker 1: confirmed that there's a baseball game next door today at
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  Speaker 1: one o'clock, how relevant that may be. Just, yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: vibe's crazy. You know, I was at the Tuesday game
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  Speaker 1: in L.A., the Tuesday night football game in 2021. That
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  Speaker 1: was really strange. This one kind of feels the same way.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, why is there a game today? But I
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  Speaker 1: think once we all get down to Jimmy's on first
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  Speaker 1: in the Soto area, we're not going to care about
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  Speaker 1: any of that. It's about raising the banner for the
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  Speaker 1: second time in franchise history and the vibe outside the stadium.
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  Speaker 5: It's going to be fun with the two games going on.
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  Speaker 5: I can't wait.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it. Dick, how much of this
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  Speaker 2: season is just going to be Rams versus Seahawks talk
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  Speaker 2: for us here in Sports Talk Radio?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think it depends on how these two teams start,
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  Speaker 4: and I think the Rams start is going to be
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  Speaker 4: a lot more difficult than I think the Seahawks if
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  Speaker 4: you just look at the schedule, and especially with the travel.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, what type of What type of advantage or
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  Speaker 4: disadvantage is that travel going to play with the Rams?
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  Speaker 4: We've already seen it hit the Niners. They got 10,000
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  Speaker 4: miles away from the substation, and they're still getting hurt.
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  Speaker 4: That's a very powerful substation.
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  Speaker 3: It weakened them. It weakened them.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Once they got to Australia, it was over.
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  Speaker 5: It did.
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  Speaker 4: It did, but if the Rams and Hawks stay as
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  Speaker 4: good as we all think they're going to be, then
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  Speaker 4: I think that is going to be the major topic,
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  Speaker 4: both locally and nationally. But just to kind of piggyback
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  Speaker 4: what Ian was talking about with just the vibe of
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  Speaker 4: the day, I mean, think about this. I mean, what
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  Speaker 4: does everybody think nationally when they think Seattle? They think rain, right? Well,
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  Speaker 4: how many fans on television watched U.S. Australia, U.S. Belgium,
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  Speaker 4: the Apple Cup, and this game? A hundred million? Total,
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  Speaker 4: and not one cloud is going to be seen in
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  Speaker 4: all four games on the television. So I think that
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  Speaker 4: is pretty cool, too.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, it should be an epic night.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll take the weather for sure and take a
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  Speaker 2: victory as well. So, Softy, I mean, are you good with–
• 6:16
  Speaker 2: because I know Mike McDonald, John Schneider, and I, the
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  Speaker 2: three of us, we're good with all the Rams hype
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  Speaker 2: right now. And we're happy just to fly under the radar.
• 6:27
  Speaker 2: and bite him again in the end. Is that where
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  Speaker 2: you're at with all of this Rams hysteria this offseason?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, first of all, just to piggyback on Dick's point,
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  Speaker 6: I'm super excited about no clouds for the game tonight.
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  Speaker 6: The Hawks are undefeated in openers when there is no
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  Speaker 6: cloud cover over the stadium, by the way.
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  Speaker 3: I just looked that up, so that's a great, great.
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  Speaker 6: Thing to have in our favor tonight against the Patriots.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean, guys, my biggest concern right now
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  Speaker 6: is am I wearing pants or shorts to this game?
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  Speaker 6: It's supposed to be, what, 75 degrees of kickoff. I've
• 6:55
  Speaker 6: been stressing the last... 12 hours, pants or shorts, shorts
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  Speaker 6: or pants. I'm trying on different outfits. I feel like
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  Speaker 6: a chick for crying out loud, man.
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  Speaker 3: What do I wear? I have no idea.
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  Speaker 6: So that's my biggest stress right now, to be honest
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  Speaker 6: with you. But as far as the Rams, yeah, I mean, look,
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  Speaker 6: I'm not buying the hysteria the way other people are.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's very rare that a team gets pumped
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  Speaker 6: up like this and then actually delivers something. Whether baseball, Chuck,
• 7:20
  Speaker 6: you are old enough to remember the SI Indians thing
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  Speaker 6: back in the day when they went bananas about Cleveland
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  Speaker 6: and they ended up just being terrible.
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  Speaker 3: The Lakers with Carl Malone and Kobe.
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  Speaker 6: And Shaq and Gary Payton, those guys fell short. So
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  Speaker 6: the dream teams don't usually work out, to be honest
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  Speaker 6: with you. And I just don't know if Aaron Donald
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  Speaker 6: is going to move the needle that much. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 6: he's 35 years old. He hasn't played in two years.
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  Speaker 6: Who knows what this guy is all about, right? When
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  Speaker 6: the drop comes in the NFL, that comes fast. There's
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  Speaker 6: no slow roll over the side of the cliff in
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  Speaker 6: the National Football League. So I think the Rams are
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  Speaker 6: going to be very, very, very good. But I thought
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  Speaker 6: the Rams would be very, very good before they got
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  Speaker 6: Miles Garrett, before they got Aaron Donald. So nothing's really
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  Speaker 6: changed for me in that regard. And guys, don't forget,
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  Speaker 6: the Seahawks, Rams, and 49ers, there's a lot of people
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  Speaker 6: that want to just, you know, Just throw the Rams out.
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  Speaker 6: Just say they're not going to, or the Niners, just
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  Speaker 6: throw the Niners out.
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  Speaker 3: They're not going to be a fagger.
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  Speaker 6: These teams won 38 games combined in the regular season
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  Speaker 6: a year ago.
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  Speaker 3: 38.
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  Speaker 6: And the Niners and Rams ended up tied for second
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  Speaker 6: place in the NFC West. So I think it's going
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  Speaker 6: to be a frigging dogfight all year long between these
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  Speaker 6: three teams, guys. I kind of feel bad for the Cardinals,
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  Speaker 6: by the way, because they're not even remotely close to
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  Speaker 6: getting a ticket to the party.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean, last year, remember, this is how
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  Speaker 5: things have changed.
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  Speaker 1: Weren't the Cardinals actually favored over Seattle last year, like
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  Speaker 1: in terms of the preseason? Like they were supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be the fourth best team in the NFC West. So
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  Speaker 1: Softie's right.
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  Speaker 5: You never know. You can throw all these things out there.
• 8:52
  Speaker 1: You know, the 49ers, I think, are a good test
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  Speaker 1: case for what, if you're the Rams or the Seahawks
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  Speaker 1: looking around.
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  Speaker 5: Softie mentioned it. It's a long season. A lot of
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  Speaker 5: stuff can happen.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Alfred Collins going down for the 49ers, that's
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: the second starting defensive lineman that's out for the year
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: for them.
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  Speaker 5: Both guys in the interior. And then Ricky Pearsall is
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  Speaker 5: out for the season.
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  Speaker 1: Substation jokes aside, if you're the Rams, the one thing
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  Speaker 1: with the Rams, that super team, their depth is very,
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: very thin. Like they paid so much upper end talent.
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: Your depth is not good. And I mean, well, softy may.
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: Most people don't root for injuries to happen. But the
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  Speaker 1: reality is by the time Seattle sees the Rams, you'll
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  Speaker 1: be what? 14 games into the season, 13 games into
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  Speaker 1: the season. I mean, a lot can happen between now
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  Speaker 1: and then. All I know is we're going to feel
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  Speaker 1: really dirty tomorrow night because the reality is we're probably
• 9:39
  Speaker 1: rooting for the 49ers. That's, that's a hard, dirty feeling
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  Speaker 1: to have with the Seahawks sitting one on one, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, soft.
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  Speaker 5: He's right.
• 9:47
  Speaker 1: I just double checked some other notes. Uh, Seahawks are
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  Speaker 1: also undefeated on a Wednesday night opener.
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  Speaker 3: Good, good, good, good, really good shape there. So it
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  Speaker 3: should be fine.
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  Speaker 6: And Chuck, just real quick. Uh, and Dick, I think
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  Speaker 6: you agree, just one point about the Rams. I'm kind
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  Speaker 6: of rooting against them out of principle. Who the hell
• 10:06
  Speaker 6: decides to go to Australia two days before a football game, right? Because, guys,
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  Speaker 6: you have this interesting dynamic here, right? You got seemingly
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  Speaker 6: the 49ers relying on experts, sleep experts, doctors, travel experts, whatever,
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  Speaker 6: on their side that told them it was a good
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  Speaker 6: idea to get out there, what, a week or so
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  Speaker 6: before the game. And then the Rams are talking to
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  Speaker 6: their people saying, oh, our experts think it's a good
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  Speaker 6: idea to go out there 48 hours before the game. So,
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  Speaker 6: I hope the Rams get their ass kicked just based
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  Speaker 6: on principle. Who the hell does that, for crying out loud?
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  Speaker 1: Well, the principle, the funny thing about what the Rams
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  Speaker 1: are doing, too, I mean, this is probably going to
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  Speaker 1: be our theme all year, talking about those knuckleheads, but
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  Speaker 1: think about what they, you know, they're playing one of
• 10:47
  Speaker 1: their two biggest rivals. It was their choice who to
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: play down there. They were given the choice, and they said,
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  Speaker 1: we want the 49ers there. We don't want the 49ers
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  Speaker 1: in SoFi.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know why?
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  Speaker 1: Because of fans. The second choice would have been Seattle.
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  Speaker 1: That's how pathetic they are as a franchise. We're talking
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: about the atmosphere we're going to have here tonight because
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  Speaker 1: once we get to Soto and everyone's down there getting
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: juiced up and raring to go, it's a different feeling. SoFi,
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  Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, we don't want Seattle. We don't want the.
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  Speaker 5: 49ers playing in LA. We'll go wherever the hell it is.
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  Speaker 1: They don't have a home field advantage anyway, but They
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  Speaker 1: deserve whatever bad things happen to them, the Rams, this year.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's talk about it.
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  Speaker 5: Go ahead, Dick. Yeah, go ahead, Chuck.
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  Speaker 3: No, go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: I was just going to say, I've been to Australia twice,
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  Speaker 4: and you are so energized when you get there, but
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  Speaker 4: that only lasts for about 12 hours, right? So it
• 11:36
  Speaker 4: almost seems like the Rams are, if they really wanted
• 11:40
  Speaker 4: to be energized, they should land about four hours before
• 11:42
  Speaker 4: the game because you're just so juiced you're in. You know,
• 11:47
  Speaker 4: it's daylight when you think it's supposed to be night,
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  Speaker 4: and then the crash.
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: Toilets are going the other way.
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm wondering if the crash comes, like, in the
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  Speaker 4: second half of the football game.
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  Speaker 5: That'd be hilarious.
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  Speaker 4: It's really interesting to see.
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  Speaker 5: Great.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Dick, tell me why the Seahawks could potentially be
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: even better than they were a year ago. And that's
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: not predicting back-to-back Super Bowls necessarily, but, I mean, it
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: took them a little while before we recognized, like.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, they might win the Super Bowl this year. That's
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  Speaker 3: how good they are.
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  Speaker 2: Is there a chance that they're going to be better
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  Speaker 2: this year from beginning to end of the year?
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  Speaker 3: And if so, why?
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  Speaker 4: I think they could be better in the first half
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  Speaker 4: of the season than they've been in the first halves
• 12:29
  Speaker 4: of the last two seasons. Taking a look at that,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, if you just take a midway point in
• 12:33
  Speaker 4: the season, Mike McDonald's, what, 10-8, 11-8? I've got the
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  Speaker 4: stats in the first half of the two seasons he's coached.
• 12:42
  Speaker 4: And he's only lost two games in the back half.
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's been unbelievable. So what we might see
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  Speaker 4: is we might see a Seahawks team that's elite quicker
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  Speaker 4: than the one was last year that lost to the
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: Niners early and lost to.
• 12:55
  Speaker 5: The Bucs early.
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  Speaker 4: Overall, I mean, I would be really surprised if they
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  Speaker 4: were 17-3.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that.
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  Speaker 4: Just doesn't happen. But you ask for reasons why. I
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: think number one would probably be continuity, right? Sam Darnold
• 13:09
  Speaker 4: with JSN. They had a full, you know, another training
• 13:12
  Speaker 4: camp together. Cooper Cup is healthier. Maybe he provides a
• 13:15
  Speaker 4: little bit of an extra, you know, an extra boost,
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  Speaker 4: something he didn't provide last year. Maybe you get one
• 13:20
  Speaker 4: of those young receivers to pop and become a third option.
• 13:23
  Speaker 4: Maybe Rashid Shahid is the guy that we hoped we
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: were getting from New Orleans instead of the guy that
• 13:29
  Speaker 4: was really just a special teams guy for the Seahawks
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: last year. So that would be, maybe Jadarian Price is...
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: The offensive rookie of the year. I'm just looking at
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: the offense right now because I don't know how the
• 13:41
  Speaker 4: defense can be much better than it was last year,
• 13:43
  Speaker 4: but the offense, that's probably the side of the ball
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  Speaker 4: that has the most to move up, and those are
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: some of the reasons why they could be better than
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: they were last year.
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  Speaker 2: I think they are going to be better because I
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  Speaker 2: think that's been the plan all along. I think the
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: Rams were as aggressive this offseason because they know that
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: that the world champion Seahawks are going to be even
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  Speaker 2: better this year, and so we have to get a
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: lot better than what we were a year ago. That's
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: my theory that I'll float out to you. Yeah.
• 14:11
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, look, they added four pretty damn good players,
• 14:14
  Speaker 6: and we'll see on Donald, obviously, but Miles Garrett, McDuffie,
• 14:18
  Speaker 6: Jalen Watson, right, I think, from Kansas City, Trent's old teammate.
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  Speaker 6: So they added four pretty good players, but I just
• 14:24
  Speaker 6: really don't know how they can be better record-wise.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, they won 10 in a row to end
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  Speaker 3: the year.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, Dick's talking about their– their first half start,
• 14:32
  Speaker 6: they did go seven and two in their first nine games.
• 14:35
  Speaker 6: I mean, they lost their first two games by like
• 14:37
  Speaker 6: a combined five points for God's sakes, the nine point
• 14:40
  Speaker 6: loss differential guys.
• 14:42
  Speaker 3: And the three games a year ago was.
• 14:43
  Speaker 6: The lowest combined loss differential, if you will, in franchise history,
• 14:48
  Speaker 6: meaning they literally never came that close to going undefeated
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: ever in in the history of the franchise. So I
• 14:53
  Speaker 6: think it's going to be damn near impossible to be
• 14:56
  Speaker 6: better record wise. Can they be more efficient in the
• 14:58
  Speaker 6: red zone offensively? You guys remember that was a problem,
• 15:02
  Speaker 6: you know, for, you know, a small portion of the
• 15:04
  Speaker 6: year where they weren't scoring touchdowns in the red zone.
• 15:06
  Speaker 6: That to me is something to keep an eye out on.
• 15:08
  Speaker 6: Can Sam Darnold avoid the barf bag eight quarters that
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: he had last year? against the Rams and the Cardinals
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: when he threw seven interceptions and had like two lost
• 15:19
  Speaker 6: fumbles over a two-game period. Everybody talks about Darnold's turnover problem,
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: but really if you take away those two games and
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: those eight days of football, he was actually pretty damn good.
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, why they might be better?
• 15:31
  Speaker 6: I think because they've got more guys back than any
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: Seahawks Super Bowl team in franchise history. You know, Dick
• 15:37
  Speaker 6: and I talked about this on the air the other day.
• 15:40
  Speaker 6: If you go back to like, 2010, there's only one team,
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: I think two teams actually, that have brought back more
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: from the previous team snap percentage-wise than the Seahawks, and
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: that's the 2020 Buccaneers and the 2019 Chiefs.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're at 87%. The 2013 Seahawks.
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: We're at 77%, so they are as in good a
• 16:00
  Speaker 6: position as any Seahawks Super Bowl team, I think, to repeat. Remember,
• 16:05
  Speaker 6: they had Brenno Giacomini at right tackle against the Broncos,
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: and then he went to the Jets, and they had J.R.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: Sweezy. So this is the.
• 16:12
  Speaker 6: First time since 2004 into 2005 that they brought back
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: their entire offensive line, and that continuity has got to
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: mean something.
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: Ian?
• 16:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think... Great point.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: The problem is that when they dropped down to 77%
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: the next year in 2014, what they lost, not just
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: on the offensive line, remember what they lost too. They
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: lost a ton of depth in the secondary. The Jerron Johnsons,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: the Maxwell, all those guys, Maragos, all these guys that
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: were just, they lost that depth. It goes back to
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: what I talked about with the Rams. At some point,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: you can't afford to keep everybody Seattle, by and large,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: kept everybody, and they made some tough choices. Reek Wolin gone.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: They took Jobe over him. A debate we could have forever,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: but they hoped that some young guy would step up.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: They obviously got rid of Moffay, paid Hall, and brought
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: in Dante Fowler. Is that going to be an upgrade? Maybe.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I think the only thing that would be a concern
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: about are they going to be better or as good,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: not just the division, not just the schedule. I mean,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: the schedule early is tough. Yeah, you get the Cardinals
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: soft landing next week, and then it gets pretty difficult.
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: I think the thing that concerns you is the health.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: You know, like I would say, I would check, I
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: would answer, yeah, they're going to be as good and
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: could be even more efficient than ever. But now you're
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: without your starting safety in Alcada with a hamstring. That
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: doesn't heal usually within a day or two. Imanwuri's health
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: is still a question. Doubtful he's going to play tonight.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: You know, you start going down the list. The cornerback
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: position's in flux. Now maybe Trevon Diggs can step up
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: and be good. Tyrese Knight fills that role of Imanwuri
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: or DeAnthony Bell, but he's going to have to probably
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: play in the second. There's a lot of questions about health-wise.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: And then, are we ever going to see Torrey Horton? Like,
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: that's the other question. Like, are we ever going to
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: see this guy? Because Dick talked about the young receivers.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: Kup looked a lot better this year in camp than
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: he did last year. So maybe Kup comes back. Arroyo
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: could be a factor. Barner continues to progress. But the
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: depth in the wide receiver position, it's a little bit
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: lacking right now. So, I mean, there are some question marks. And, man,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: behind Jadarian Price, and we don't even know what he's
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: all about in the NFL, behind him until Charbonnet comes back,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: it is really thin back there. Because I ain't I
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: don't know about you guys, but Emmanuel Wilson and George Helani,
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: they don't get me too fired up. And if I
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: was the opponent, probably not too afraid.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: I'll say this, though, about them. I mean, we all
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: watched hard knocks.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: What you worry about with a team that has won
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: a Super Bowl, especially a young team, any signs of
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: complacency or satisfaction? I didn't see any of that in
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: hard knocks. I don't think that this team is resting
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: on its laurels whatsoever.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Or egos.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: Egos, too, right?
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: I mean, just the drama and the egos in that
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: locker room, and there was a lot of them, and
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: we can't just ignore that. That was a big reason
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: why they won the first one in 2013, because they
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: were cocky and arrogant as hell, and they backed it
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: up like no other Seahawks team in franchise history. They
• 19:02
  Speaker 6: don't have that. You know, there's no I mean, look, guys,
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: you know, Dick and I talked about this. Hard Knocks
• 19:06
  Speaker 6: to me was kind of boring, honestly. I mean, there's
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: really not a lot of personalities that came out in
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: the Hard Knocks episode. It was, you know, Montori Foster's
• 19:15
  Speaker 6: mom and dad. It was Derek Hall's truck. It was
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: Sam Darnold's spin rate. Remember the episode with Sam Darnold's
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: spin rate? They took three minutes with that ball in
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: the air. It was I thought I was high watching
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: that thing. I'm like, what's going on here, man? But
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: there really was not a lot of personality that came
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: out of that show. You know, we saw some from
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: Mike McDonald, maybe a side of him that we never saw.
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: So my point is, is that the, I got to
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: get mine, the infighting, all that stuff, the, you know,
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: I'm better than this guy, blah, blah, blah, the holdouts,
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: things like that. It seems like this team, Ian, so
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: far has been kind of immune to all that.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: Well, the Super Bowl champion... 2013.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Team, their strength was also their biggest weakness. It's everything
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: you just said, Softy. It was the egos.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: It was the look.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: I always compared them to the– I'm the only old
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: guy here that can remember the 79 Sonics, but they
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: were very 79 Sonics-like. If you look at pictures from
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: the 79 Sonics parade– It's June, and they're all wearing
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: fur coats, top hats, and they're all in separate cars.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Paul Silas used to talk about the fights they had
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: in practice every day. That was the 2013 Seahawks game.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: It broke up right after that, the 79 Sonics did,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: and obviously the Seahawks kind of fell apart. All of us,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: all five of us, is there five of us, four
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: of us, four of us on this call, we all
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: were at camp every day talking to guys every day,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: and I think we all probably had the same thought.
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: What we heard every day, from guys. We talked about this.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: It was like new season, new season, new season. It
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: was so different than the 2014 training camp when guys
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: were like, repeat, repeat, here we go. These guys hit
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: the clean slate. And I think when you say it
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: was boring softy, you know why? This team is a
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: reflection of their coach.
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: I love it. Like he's a reflection of the reflection
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: of the coach.
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: And honestly, that's probably a really good thing from what
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: we saw with Mike McDonald and, and they're focused. It's,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: it's again, the biggest issue, the biggest issue, all the
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: things we're talking about, the biggest issue, is the division, period,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: end of story. Because the only time they've been to
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, in the times they've been to the
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl, they won the division, won the conference, and
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: had a home field advantage. They've never done it otherwise,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: and that's the hardest challenge you have this year is
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: winning the division with those other two teams.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: A special opener roundtable with our guys. David Softy, Mahler,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Ian Furness, Nick Fane with us for the entire 8
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: o'clock hour. More to discuss, including tonight's matchup, Sports Radio
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: 93.3 KJRFM.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Kind of pull a softie here.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: It's Chuck in the mornings. We had an idea here
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: on opening night of the football season to gather some
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: of the greatest minds in sports talk radio for a
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: round table.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: None of them can make it.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: So instead, we've got David Softy Mahler, Dick Fane, and
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Ian Furness with us here.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: Did I do it the right way? It's fun, right?
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: It's fun.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: It's fun. And it works every time.
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: Best part about that is when you use it on
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: somebody else who just doesn't see it coming at all.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: And they're all pumped up.
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: You know, we thought we'd reach out to one of
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: the premier football minds in America, you know, unbelievable radio talent.
• 22:10
  Speaker 6: And the guy sitting there, he's getting all ready to
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: be complimented.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: And then bang, you just hit him with the works
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: every time. Great comedy gold. No question about it. 60%
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: of the time, it works all the time.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: Well, when Softie's telling me he doesn't know what to
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: wear tonight to start our roundtable, I have a feeling
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: you're not too worried about.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: This football team this season. So you have no worries?
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're just trying to figure out whether I'm
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: going to go halter top or sleeveless or, you know,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: what are you going to do tonight instead of worrying
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: about any element of this football team this year?
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: I'm not really worried about tonight's game. I mean, I
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: think overall I am worried about the running game for sure.
• 22:48
  Speaker 6: And Dick and I have talked about this many times.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: I just really hope, guys, that we're not sitting here
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: in October and November asking ourselves, why the hell didn't
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: we just pay Kenny Walker?
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: Right. I mean, come on, man.
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: The guy was unbelievable in the last month and a
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: half of 2025. You know, if you look at his numbers, Chuck,
• 23:05
  Speaker 6: that he was putting up and you kind of, you know,
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: project those out over a 16, 17 game season, he
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: was doing things that like only Christian McCaffrey does.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I mean, running and catching.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: So he was a star and that was Charbonnet banged up.
• 23:18
  Speaker 6: I think there's no doubt there's got to be a
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: reason for concern for now. about this running game. You know,
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: as Dick said, Jadarian Price could end up being the
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: rookie of the year, or he could be Rashad Penny
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: and banged up by week two and out for a month.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: I mean, who knows what this guy is going to
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: be all about?
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: I mean, between him, Emmanuel Wilson, George Helani, Ian mentioned
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: the depth at running back. There's just nothing there that
• 23:38
  Speaker 6: makes you feel like, hey, We're going to run the
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: ball great today, right? Like it felt like that towards
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: the end of the year that you were going to
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: run the ball really, really well. And there's nothing right
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: now that says the Hawks can do that. That might
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: change by the way, in about nine hours from now
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: when price makes his debut with the Seahawks, but that's
• 23:55
  Speaker 6: a concern. The secondary is a slight concern as well.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: I am less concerned about the secondary guys than I
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: am about the running game because of one thing, Mike
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: McDonald and his scheme.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: I've thought Mike McDonald since he got here was.
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: The star and, His scheme is the star, and like
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: Dick and I talked about yesterday, watch tonight, right? There's
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: going to be some random dude that nobody's ever heard of,
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: just like before we got to know Drake Thomas and
• 24:19
  Speaker 6: Ty Okada. Somebody tonight will be making plays that we've
• 24:22
  Speaker 6: never heard of, and we'll go home saying, that guy, McDonald,
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: he did it again.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Dick?
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: The defense does concern me early in the season, particularly
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: without Nicky Manwari. We still remember... what Mike McDonald was
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: going through the week of the Superbowl when he thought
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: he wasn't going to have his special toy for the Superbowl.
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: And he was absolutely panicked. I think he said he
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: woke up 70 times in one night. He doesn't have
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: them today. Um, I, so I, I think Drake may
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: is going to try to exploit that. I think at
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: times he will be able to exploit that. There's just
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: not a lot of continuity in the backend right now
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: because you got to get, you know what, Rodney Thomas.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: I mean, that's, that's a concern for me.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Um, the running game.
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: Is a concern, uh, just because we haven't seen Jadarian
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: Price at all. I mean, if we would have seen
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: him a little bit, I mean, what can you get
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: out of watching him at camp? I don't know. I mean,
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: he seems to have some explosiveness. I am not one
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: that was a proponent of re-signing Ken Walker, and I
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: will be stunned. I think Ken Walker will have a
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: good season while he's in there for Kansas City. You know,
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Ken Walker's backups in Kansas City are named Emmett Johnson
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: and Brashard Smith. They are going to run Ken Walker
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: into the absolute ground, and he couldn't stay healthy in
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Seattle when he had a legitimate backup running back. How
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: is he going to be able to stay healthy in
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Kansas City when he doesn't have a legitimate running back backup?
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: If it doesn't go, I mean, last year, Ian, they
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: just kept running, running, running, and running. We're going to
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: run it, whether we're effective or not. And for a
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: lot of the season, they weren't all that effective running
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: the football, particularly Ken Walker. and yet they did get
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: it going by year's end. But there are a lot
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: of critics still of Sam Darnold. He can't convince them
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: that he is a top quarterback. If they can't get
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: it going again this year, Ian, is your feeling that
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: they will just continue to try to run that ball
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: like they did a year ago? Or would it be
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: time to see if Sam Darnold can take his game
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: to the next level and just throw the ball far
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: more frequently than he.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: Did a year ago? Well, I think there's a couple
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: things in play.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: One is the fact it's a first-time play caller in
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Brian Fleury. And there's a great unknown there. When Kubiak
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: came here last year, there was a track record. He
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: had done it before. Fleury's done it now in three
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: preseason games, which, what does that mean?
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: Not a lot, right?
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: So that's the great unknown. There's a couple things in
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: play here. I'm going to go back to Walker for
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: just a second, Chuck, if I can. Sometimes the worst
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: offseason moves are the ones that you don't make. And
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: I think we'll see. I hope that's not the case
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: with this. I always felt like Ken Walker was misused here.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: They never really used him as a bell cow, and
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: part of it was health, sure. But really, by and large,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: they always had this want to split carries. With Charbonnet,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: after they drafted him the following year after he was picked,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: it never quite made sense to me. Then we saw
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: when he was a lead back when Charbonnet went down,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: how dynamic he could be. I hope that this isn't.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: It's different because it's emotion as opposed to talent. you
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: can make an argument that not bringing back Gino Suarez
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: last year has hurt that clubhouse. Maybe his skills were declining,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: but what they need is a little bit more something.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Softy yells about it all the time.
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: There's no juice. There's no leadership. Walker is a guy
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: you let him go. You made that decision.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: You replaced him with a first-round pick, but time will
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: tell if Jadarian Price can stay healthy. As far as
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Darnold's concerned, anybody that wants to criticize him, all he's
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: got to do is Just go into his safe in
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: his house and pull out.
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: A $ 55, 000.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl ring and maybe put it on his middle
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: finger and show it to the rest of the country.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: And also say that, hey, last year, not only did
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: we win this, we had the highest scoring offense in
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Seahawks football history. And by the way, I was throwing
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: to a guy that was the NFC Offensive Player of
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the Year.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Like it's, it's, I know that we look at the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: defense all the time. That offense was no joke last year.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: And at some point you started kind of, we're nitpicking
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: a little bit. The flurry thing is the only thing.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: It's just an unknown. Not that it's a bad thing.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: There's an unknown.
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: It's third and four and you have to have a
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: first down.
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: Like he hasn't done that before.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: And the, and the head coach is a defensive coach.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: So it's not like he can lean on a guy that's,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: you know, like that.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: That's the unknown, and that's the concern, and maybe it
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: won't be a concern, and hopefully Fleury is well-prepared for this,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: but it's an unknown with him being a play caller, guys.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: He just hasn't done it.
• 28:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no question. I mean, until you find out, right, Chuck,
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: for sure. I mean, you know, Kubiak at least had
• 28:56
  Speaker 6: done it before. He had been with Darnold in San Francisco.
• 28:58
  Speaker 6: There was some kind of a relationship there between the
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: two of them. So I know Fleury was with Darnold
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: in San Francisco, but he was the tight ends guy,
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: not really working with a quarterback. So I'm curious to
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: see how this works out as well, like Ian. But,
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: you know, guys, the whole thing with Sam Darnold, look,
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: the dude is 31-7 his last 38 games, if you
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: include the playoffs.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: I mean.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: get out of here, right? Like the guy is just
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: winning everything. And that is contagious, right? That breeds confidence.
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: You guys know that. For those of us that like
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: to play golf, the better you play, the better you play, right?
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: The worse you play, the worse you play, right? So
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: he's got that confident train going right now. And the
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: thing about Walker for me, just going back to Dick's
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: point a little bit, I don't have any doubt that
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: Kansas City is going to use him a lot. And
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: that might not be a good thing for Kenny Walker
• 29:41
  Speaker 6: in Kansas City. That's not, though, how he would have
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: been used here. The question is, how would he have
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: benefited the Seahawks?
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 29:47
  Speaker 6: How would he have been used here? in Seattle. And
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: once Charbonnet is healthy in week five, you could have
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: duplicated and replicated what you had a year ago with
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: those two guys, which in the final month of the
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: half worked very well. So I don't have any doubt
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: that there could be a problem with how many snaps
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: he takes in Kansas City. What you're losing is what
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: you would have done with him if he had stayed
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: here in Seattle.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: So I just.
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: Think there's Chuck I'm not sure if I'd call them
• 30:14
  Speaker 6: concerns as much as I would just curiosities and the
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: offensive coordinator is one of them as Dick pointed out
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: the secondary is another the running back is another I
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: mean all those things right like last year outside of
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: Julian Love and Torrey Horton knock on wood this team
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: was pretty damn healthy a year ago and we're already
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: starting off with some injuries to guys like Eamon Worry
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: and Torrey Horton and I mean.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Look that's that's the big thing right it's a It's
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: an obvious.
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: Cliche point that a lot of people make, but one
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: of the biggest reasons why the Seahawks were able to
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: pull this off is because their big guns for the
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: most part were healthy the entire single or excuse me,
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: the entire year. So let's hope they can duplicate that again. Uh,
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: we're going to do predictions in the last segment, but
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: I do want to.
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: Just, I know we got to do it. I'm obligated.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Uh, but I just do want to just quickly just
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: like Mike McDonald, um, the greatest gift to Seattle sports
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: ever Dick I.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: Mean is that what is that what we have in
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: this head coach.
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: I mean they they hit the jackpot and and NFL
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: coaches don't move around right I mean if you have
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: a great NFL coach you pay him and he stays
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: and he stays for 10 15 20 years until you
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: you know decide to move on like they finally did
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: in Baltimore with hardball I mean that's it's just a
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: And that's what's so exciting is that, you know, Softie
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: and I were talking about this last week about, you know,
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: how long these two guys, John Schneider and Mike McDonald,
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: could stay together. And, you know, John Schneider, I would think,
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: would be the first one of the two to leave
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: since he's been here so long. But why wouldn't John
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: Schneider be here another 10 years? I mean, my God,
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: he's in his 50s. I mean, he's not an old man.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Why wouldn't he stay here another decade?
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Thank you for saying that. You know?
• 31:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: And if he's here another 10 years, Mike McDonald could
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: be here another 10 years past that. I mean, Pete
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: Carroll was here, what, for 14 seasons? And he was
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: way older than Mike McDonald is. So it wouldn't surprise
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: me at all if we're still, you know, talking about
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: the John Schneider, Mike McDonald era well into the next decade.
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: The only question I have about that, and again, it
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: falls into the curiosity category, is for those first, what,
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: 17 years, right, of Schneider's career, he was working with
• 32:26
  Speaker 6: an Allen. Now he's working with a Coastal. How will
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: things be different with this ownership group, right? I mean,
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: there's no need to panic on either side of that coin, Chuck,
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: at all. But again, we just don't know. We don't
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: know what this thing will feel like, what it'll look
• 32:39
  Speaker 6: like for John. If he does go another 10 years,
• 32:42
  Speaker 6: we're talking about a 27, 30-year run. That's a Paul Brown,
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: George Hallis type of thing that this guy will go
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: on forever. But I do it, you know, in an
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: era when a lot of people move around. So maybe
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: he gets bumped up, you know, like Jerry, you know,
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: Jerry DePoto went from GM to president of baseball ops.
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: Maybe you wake up in a couple of years from
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: now and John Schneider is the president of the Seahawks
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: and he's a part owner and somebody else is the
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: general manager. I just think as long as you've got
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: him as a part of the pyramid, this team should
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: continue to win games.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Chuck, real quick, you mentioned that, you know, is he
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: the greatest gift? I don't think we should gloss over
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. And I'd even go back further and say, Mike,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: what happened with Paul Allen's ownership, as Softie mentioned, is
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: that raised the level and that raised the bar and
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: it raised the expectations for this organization back in the
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: late 90s, early 2000s. And under the Allen leadership and ownership,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: all bets were off.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: What does it take? And that goes back to what
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: Softie said.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: They're going to spend to the salary cap because every
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: NFL team does. The question isn't are they going to
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: spend new ownership. But listen, at the end of the day,
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: did you go and said, we're going to get Mike Holmgren,
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: and we're going to pay him what he needs. We're
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: going to get Pete Carroll, weird, out of the box hire,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: and bring him in and pay him what he needs.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Schneider's had multiple opportunities to leave, go back to his
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: hometown of Green Bay.
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: Has not.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: He stayed because Paul Allen paid him and gave him
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: the juice. The Coastalists now bring it. You come in.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: You inherit all that stuff. Keep paying Schneider. Let him
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: do his thing. The thing that you have to love
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: about this organization, and I assume it'll stay the same
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: under the Coleslaws until proven otherwise, is that the expectations
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: and the bar and what they expect from themselves internally, externally, business,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: and football side, they are top shelf. And not every team,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: especially in this town, can say that. And I think
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: that's why if you're a Seahawks fan, you've got to
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: be thrilled. And Dick's right.
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: This isn't college football.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys aren't going to come and poach Mike
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: McDonald with five games left to go in the season,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: and he's going to mail in the rest of the
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: year Yeah, like I've seen in Pullman a few times.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: That's not going to happen. So I think if you're
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: a Seahawks fan, you've got to be thrilled with what's coming.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: We'll find out today. Softie's going to wear shorts and
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: a T-shirt and go see the Coastalist today, introduce himself
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: at 11 o'clock.
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: I'm going to go rent a suit, by the way,
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: before I go to my press conference. I want to
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: appear to be something other than the bum that I am,
• 35:05
  Speaker 6: so that'll last for.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: About a month.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: I can't wait to see that.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: All right. For them to announce today, 10 years, $ 300
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: million for McDonald's. Let's do it. Let's just do it.
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: Let's just sign it right now.
• 35:14
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: 10 years, $ 100 million for us. How's that sound? That
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: sounds great, too.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: All right.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: One more segment with our guys, Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: All right, we've got our fellas here.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: We've got Dave Sobny, Mahler, Dick Fane, and Ian Furness
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: with you. A special opening night roundtable here on the
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Seahawks as they start the season tonight at home against
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: the New England Patriots kickoff at 520. So let's just
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: give a minute each here to wrap up our hour. Dick,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: your expectation, not predictions. I won't make you make specific predictions.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Your expectation for tonight, your expectation for this season.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: I think tonight we'll be stressed at times. I don't
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: think it will be like the Super Bowl where there
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: was not one point in that game where I didn't
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: think they were going to win the game. I think
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: that we'll have some times where you know, maybe New
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: England's ahead or maybe it's tied with New England having
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: the ball in the second half. I think it's going
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: to be a close game. I think the point spread's right.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: I think the over-under's right. I did see the point
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: spread come down to three, though, so I would like
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: the Hawks a little bit more at three than I
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: did at three and a half or four, which I
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: saw earlier in the week. And then, you know, so
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: I think like a 24-20 today for the Hawks sounds
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: about right. And then, For the season, I think similar
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: to last year, I don't think they get to 14 wins.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: I think the Hawks and the Rams are separated by
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: the absolute blade of a knife. I've got them both
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: winning 13 games. So depending on tiebreaker, and that tiebreaker
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: is going to be huge, guys, because as we know,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: when the Seahawks are the one seed, they go to
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: the Super Bowl. When the Seahawks are not the one seed,
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: they don't go to the Super Bowl. And I think
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: that same thing will happen this year. And if the
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: Hawks can get that one seat, I think they'll go.
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, just for the sake, you didn't, you know,
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: I don't have to make a prediction since you did.
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: You said I didn't have to.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: I don't have to. You can.
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: I'll just say, I think the Rams and the Seahawks
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: finished with the same record in the, in the, in
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: the AFC West. And it comes down to a tiebreaker,
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: both at 13 and four. I think it's going to be,
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: I think it's going to be that close between those
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: two teams. I think they have separated themselves from the
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: rest of the NFC. as by far the two best
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: teams in the NFC. I think it's much closer in
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: the AFC. I've got the Bills in Houston, the two
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: teams facing off this week in the AFC championship game.
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: So that'll be.
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: Kind of cool.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: And it'll be interesting to see if once again, the
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Super Bowl participant starts the season with a loss. Seahawks
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: lost last year. Patriots lost to the Raiders in week
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: one last year and made the Super Bowl. So everybody
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: that wants to panic if a team loses game number
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: one of the season, just remember, Super Bowl participants were
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: both 0-1 last year.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: Ian, give me a minute.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: What's odd is I don't feel real bad or real
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: stressed about tonight. Maybe it's just because it's Wednesday and
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: we're just trying to get our bearings. We just had
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: an Apple Cup three days ago on a Sunday and
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: now it's an NFL opener. I just don't think the
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Patriots added A.J. Brown and Romeo Dobbs. Dobbs is a
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: nothing burger.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: A.J.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Brown, he might be pouting on the sideline by the
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: middle of the second quarter, so Outside of that, they
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: didn't make many changes. Can Will Campbell block? Probably not, still.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Not against his team, not against Mike McDonald. I'm not
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: stressed about tonight. I think as far as the season's concerned,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: I could see a 12-5 season. That's not disappointing.
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: It's 12-5.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: With this schedule, the number one schedule, all the things
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: you have to absorb, And I think it comes down
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: to what Dick just said, tiebreakers.
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: Who you lose to. Who are those five losses to
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: and when and where.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: You don't see the best team you're going to see
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: until the end of the season anyway in the Rams,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: and a lot can happen. But I think bare minimum,
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: it's a playoff team again. And then we'll take our
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: chances once you get to the postseason.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: So after you wrap us up.
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just think if you could give me some
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: odds on the Seahawks losing as many games as they
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: lost last year by week eight, I might take it
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: if the odds were long enough. I mean, look at this, guys.
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: New England tonight, obviously. Arizona down there week two. That's
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: going to be a win in front of 40,000 Seahawks fans.
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: But then at Washington, the Chargers, the Niners, Denver, Kansas City, Chicago.
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: I mean, that is a murderer's row, at least on
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: paper right now.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: So do I expect three losses? No.
• 39:24
  Speaker 6: If you gave me five to one odds on them
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: losing three games, I might put a hundred bucks on
• 39:28
  Speaker 6: it just for giggles. And I think Dick's right. It's
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: going to come down to the tiebreaker between the Hawks
• 39:33
  Speaker 6: and Rams. I got the Hawks going 12 and five
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: this year playing in the NFC championship against the Rams.
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: with 30,000 Seahawks fans at SoFi Stadium and the NFC Championship,
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: the cheapest buy-in ever for an NFC Championship game, by
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: the way, in L.A., and the Hawks get it done
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: and get back to the Super Bowl, but lose this
• 39:51
  Speaker 6: time to Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. That's my
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: official prediction, and I hate predictions. Let's hope none of
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: that comes true.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Those tickets are available, by the way, at VenueKings.com for
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: the NFC Championship game.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Use the code SOFTY and check out for a discount.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: But I've got sources telling me they're going to play
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: that game in New Zealand. The Rams are going to
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: want to play that game in New Zealand.
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: And not play it in LA.
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: By the way, they'll leave the morning of the game
• 40:13
  Speaker 6: if the game is in New Zealand.
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: We'll leave two weeks earlier. They'll leave the morning of
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: the game.
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: So for the record, Dick, 13-4.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: Softie and Ian are 12-5.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: Chuck, 15-2.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: Good man. Atta boy.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Atta boy. This Mr. Sunshine.
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: I love it.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: All right, man.
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: See ya. Have a great year.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: All right. There they are.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Ian Furness, David Softy Mahler, Nick Fane joining us here
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: for a special edition of the Roundtable.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: It is here.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Football season. Hugh Millen joins us next. We got to
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: hear from you today on Sports Radio 93.3 KJRFM.