Latest / Money Grows on Trees / #314 - Why You Should NEVER Listen To Finance Influencers
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- 0:00How do billionaires not pay taxes? Well, it's because they
- 0:04Billionaires don't pay taxes. Elon Musk was the biggest contributor
- 0:07to US tax last year. Warren Buffett was the biggest contributor ever to
- 0:12Here are the top five AI infrastructure companies with
- 0:16massive upside potential. Number one is APLD. Number
- 0:20two is IREMS. Number three. I wouldn't touch
- 0:26This kid has no, it's almost like he hasn't read any history
- 0:29in finance before. Don't buy this. Instead, buy this. I
- 0:33have known friends who have bought Lamborghinis that put them in a position of
- 0:36personal branding that's opened up incredible opportunities for them to build businesses. So
- 0:43You should buy these tech stocks that just keep going up. Nvidia's up
- 0:48So, should I buy it though? You shouldn't want
- 0:51to get financial advice from anyone because if you do, it means you
- 0:55don't know what you're doing. You're trying to delegate and outsource your money management
- 0:58to assets that you don't understand. Now, one of my favorite episodes, Reactions,
- 1:02where I debunk some of the gurus online as to
- 1:05what they say and think and feel about the world of finance. Let's dive
- 1:10Never sell your stock. There's only four
- 1:14reasons why you would ever sell a stock, and this is an
- 1:17easy way to remember. I call it TVOD, T-V-O-D. T
- 1:22stands for thesis. If something changes in the company and
- 1:26it breaks your thesis for originally buying the company, sell
- 1:29it. B is for valuation. If the price has
- 1:32risen so far ahead of the valuation of the stock, sell
- 1:37It really has to rise really high to sell it
- 1:40for valuation, just so you know. Like 50 times
- 1:45And the last TVOD stands for when you've doubled
- 1:49your money. Once you've doubled your money in the investment, you
- 1:53should take some of the original money off of
- 1:56the table and use that money for market corrections
- 2:03That's really hard to do that. They call that using house money
- 2:07where when you double your money, you sell half and you can use it. It's called house money,
- 2:10money that you've made from your previous investment. The challenge with that is you've got to pay one tax.
- 2:14Two, if you own a piece of a great company, the time to sell it
- 2:17would be never. Even if it's shot up and doubled, it's
- 2:21irrelevant. If you look at some of the best trades in history, they've
- 2:2410xed So as long as the thesis is correct,
- 2:28as long as the valuation is reasonable, not egregiously overpriced, and up to 50 to
- 2:3160 times earnings is still okay, and as long as it's still a good quality
- 2:35business, I think the holding time can be 30 and 40 years. If you
- 2:38look at some of Warren Buffett's holdings, Coca-Cola, American Express, etc.,
- 2:42it's 30 and 40 year holding periods. It's because you don't
- 2:45want to interrupt compounding unnecessarily. So whilst I agree with some
- 3:05I control cars, planes, helicopters, and more. He's got a retail store?
- 3:09Second is my own brand and product range, which I manufacture in
- 3:14Third is my eBay store, where I buy stock from failing businesses
- 3:18and sell it online. Octobery. Fourth is the stock market,
- 3:22where I invest my money and let it grow over time. Fifth is
- 3:25my residential real estate, which I rent out to family. Sixth
- 3:28is my commercial real estate, which I rent out to other businesses. Seventh
- 3:33There's some cool, cool income streams there. I
- 3:36think you can have seven. I think we have about ten. I've done an episode on
- 3:40it. Go check it out. But you definitely want to build one at a time. So I
- 3:43think what he's obviously done is build one business at a time and you
- 3:46can scale to the next one. I think we've got now five companies and five businesses in
- 3:50different areas and we've got our investment portfolio. So we've definitely got six
- 3:53to seven in our book, of course. We get royalties from that. So certainly seven
- 3:56core income streams. The most important part is to build one at a time.
- 4:00If you're young and you want to get wealthy, start one business. Take
- 4:04some wealth and start investing in assets like what Mark's done here, and
- 4:10Hey, should I buy these tech stocks that just keep going up? Well, amazing
- 4:14run. Record highs. NVIDIA's up a trillion bucks in a year. P-evaluation's
- 4:19a little bit stretched. Could keep going though. So, should
- 4:22I buy it though? I don't know. Huge
- 4:27run there. Punched right through 70,000. Solid momentum. Pretty
- 4:31volatile though. So, shall
- 4:36See, this is interesting. The reality is that you
- 4:40shouldn't want to get financial advice from anyone because if
- 4:43you do, it means you don't know what you're doing. You're trying to delegate and
- 4:46outsource your money management to assets that you don't understand, which
- 4:50means if they point you in the right direction with good intentions, it could also be wrong. And
- 4:53if you don't know what you own, you're going to beat them up. And so what you want to do
- 4:57is learn to fish, not ask for a fish. And in this reel, he's
- 5:00asking over and over again, what fish should I eat? What fish should I eat? What he should be asking
- 5:03is, what can you educate me on so I can learn this myself? And
- 5:07that's why I'm an educator around this and I'm not a financial advisor because
- 5:11I don't want to tell you what to do. Because if I tell you what to do and I happen
- 5:14to be wrong, which hey, we can all be wrong, you're going to want to punch me
- 5:17in the face. I don't want that. So the best thing you
- 5:20can do is invest in your education and make your own decisions based on what you know you
- 5:25How do billionaires not pay taxes? Well, it's because they don't
- 5:32Billionaires don't pay taxes! Actually, Elon Musk was the
- 5:35biggest contributor to US tax, I think, last year. Warren Buffett was
- 5:38the biggest contributor ever, you know, to US tax. One of the biggest ever to
- 5:42US tax. So they do pay tax. They pay the tax
- 5:47Take Mark Zuckerberg, for example. He's the CEO of Meta, a
- 5:50multi-billion dollar company, but as an employee, he only
- 5:56So people are like, I don't pay tax. They don't pay any personal income tax on
- 5:59wages because they don't take wages. They take stock options or they own
- 6:03pieces of their stock. So if you own a piece of stock of a company and
- 6:06that company pays taxes, inadvertently you do pay taxes. They
- 6:10just pay it differently. And there's not that many billionaires in
- 6:13the world. So who really gives a shit as to how they pay taxes? What I'm most
- 6:16interested in is how you pay taxes. Are you building a business or
- 6:20are you just in a wage job at 47% taxable rate? and
- 6:23I would love you to build a business so you can be taxed less or own
- 6:27assets where you can sell it after a year and only pay 15% roughly
- 6:30of capital gains tax instead of 47% income tax. That's
- 6:33a better question. Who cares what billionaires are doing? Let's find out
- 6:37what you're doing. Just quickly, if you're ready to take control of your finances but
- 6:40feel stuck on where to start, I have a solution. My
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- 6:51Get your copy via the link in the show notes and let's get your money working for
- 6:54you. Now back to the episode. Don't buy this. Instead, buy
- 6:58this. I have known friends who bought Lamborghinis that put them in
- 7:06it depends on who you are and what it's
- 7:13But I agree with Mark, buying appreciating assets like real estate and
- 7:16stocks is better than buying a car. Especially a Range Rover
- 7:20that's brand new. As soon as you can, buy appreciating assets.
- 7:24And it's much more effective to buy an appreciating asset than a depreciating asset
- 7:32Elon Musk is interesting. He chose to get paid not in
- 7:36salary. It's because you are taxed, not on your income. That's not
- 7:39what the tax court says. You are taxed based on your taxable income.
- 7:43And so what Elon Musk did is when he was building Tesla, he
- 7:46negotiated with the investors on the board. I
- 7:50want to get paid not with a salary. I want to get paid with stock
- 7:54options. Because he goes to the bank and he says, hey bank, I
- 7:58have these millions and millions of stock options. Would
- 8:05This is kind of pretty stupid. Like no one who
- 8:08watches this is going to be Elon and take stock options in
- 8:11a company like Tesla and then borrow against it to buy houses. Incidentally,
- 8:15Elon sold all these houses. He lives in a trailer on SpaceX property.
- 8:19So he doesn't even own stuff like that. You wouldn't want to borrow to own
- 8:23things that aren't going to drive value either. And I think
- 8:26it's very farfetched to think that someone's going to build a company like Tesla. However,
- 8:30there's some science to this because of course, Yeah,
- 8:34who doesn't want to get paid stock options of a company that's rising so fast and
- 8:37creating so much value like Tesla? And of course, if you do sell any of
- 8:40your stocks, if you realize the options, you also get taxed with
- 8:43a 50% discount on your capital gains tax if you hold it for
- 8:47more than a year. So you can get taxed at 15% if you turn
- 8:50it into an income. It's not income tax. It's a capital gain tax. And it
- 8:53can be about a third of what you're paying income tax. So there are multiple ways
- 8:57to sell assets or stocks by through owning
- 9:00options in your company instead of deriving an income. But
- 9:04of course, most people have jobs and that's where
- 9:08they're getting taxed the most which is why I'm not a big believer in jobs. Start
- 9:12a business, build a business and that's where wealth is really built
- 9:15in businesses and assets. So be an owner is the lesson from
- 9:18this reel. I
- 9:30don't think you'd be around very often if your spouse has two jobs and you
- 9:33have none. But if you're working two jobs and your spouse is not
- 9:36contributing to your financial situation in some capacity, maybe
- 9:41If you don't realize this now, you're going to miss out. In
- 9:45five years, you're going to look back and wish you put all
- 9:48of your money into that one stock that ran 1500%. And I
- 9:52can almost guarantee you it's coming from the AI infrastructure
- 10:12So back in the 1800s, rail was the big thing. If
- 10:15you had to invest in the rail companies, you'd have lost a lot of money. In the early
- 10:191900s, cars were the thing. And 200,000 car manufacturers in
- 10:22America, now there's two. You'd have lost a lot of money. In
- 10:271999, dot com. Oh, the internet's the thing. Yeah, you're going to miss out. You'd have lost a
- 10:30lot of money. The newest thing like this is not necessarily
- 10:34a great investment. In fact, it's almost a shit investment. So just because
- 10:37it's new doesn't mean you should be buying it. And if you own an index fund,
- 10:41you get exposure anyway. Well, I'll tell you what will happen. All
- 10:44the AI companies are going to spend a ton of money and lose a lot of free cash flow, and some
- 10:50So here are the top five AI infrastructure companies with
- 10:53massive upside potential. Number one is APLD. Number
- 11:01I wouldn't touch any of these companies with a 10-foot pole. Because
- 11:05it's so uncertain. It's like trying to say, oh, there's
- 11:10200,000 car manufacturers in America in 1920. Which one will I pick? That's
- 11:13what he's trying to do here. This kid has no idea. It's almost like
- 11:16he hasn't read any history in finance before. This has happened before. Dotcom
- 11:20bubble, cars, rail. This is an industrial bubble. I
- 11:24would not be identifying individual companies and our companies in
- 11:27this bubble. And I wouldn't touch with the 10-foot pole. And I
- 11:30think a lot of them can go broke. So I wouldn't be listening to that. Now, this is
- 11:34why you have to be super careful about who you listen to on
- 11:37the interweb and make sure you understand what
- 11:40you own, why you own it, and does it compound? Is it predictable?
- 11:44Can you put a lot of your money into it and sleep at night? If the answer is no, you're
- 11:47listening to the wrong people. The most important thing is to model
- 11:51what others are doing if you want to live a life like
- 11:55them. With Mark Tilbury, He's obviously built great
- 11:58compounding machines. He's one of the guys you can listen to. The
- 12:02other guys out there, I mean, it just shows us you've got to be very careful seeking
- 12:05financial advice. That's where you want to go. You don't want to go down there. You
- 12:08want financial education because you want to be able to
- 12:12fish yourself. And I think too many people are trying to ask, what's the fish I
- 12:15should have? Give me a fish. Give me a fish. Learn to fish. Thanks
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