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Chuck & Buck 6-10 Hour 3: One Series with Dick Fain, Baseball Brunch and gearing up for Game 4. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: And much much more to cover. But man, that music
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Speaker 1: has come to mean something. It means It's time for
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks One series. It's something that we do every June.
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Speaker 1: Once per day, we bring on one of the top
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Speaker 1: minds in all of Seattle to break down one key
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Speaker 1: Seahawk player for one entire interview, and today we've tabbed
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Speaker 1: one from inside the house joining us on the program.
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Speaker 1: He is the venerable host co host of the Softy
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Speaker 1: and Dick radio program. Dick Fane now joins us here
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Speaker 1: on Chuck and Buck in the mornings. Good morning, sir,
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Speaker 1: Hi Chuck.
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Speaker 2: How you doing.
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Speaker 1: I'm doing. I'm good. How are you doing?
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Speaker 2: What's going on with I'm as? I mean, I'm better
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Speaker 2: than Old Garve, not as good as New GARV.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a big gap there, right when.
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Speaker 2: You agree, yes, I would agree.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to wake up feeling like NEWGARF. You
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Speaker 1: don't want to feel like too. And I've had both.
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Speaker 1: I've had both mornings. There's no question about it for sure. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Oldgarb had bad breath. New Garb that sounds like Centnimon.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, that was a really good comparison you made last seven.
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Speaker 1: I wanted to honor you in that. Well, thank you,
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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. All right, Well, Seahawks one series, So
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Speaker 1: one analyst breaking down one key Shawk player for one
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Speaker 1: entire interview. We've got our analyst here, It's Dick Fane,
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Speaker 1: and so what player do you like would you like
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Speaker 1: to break down for us today?
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Speaker 2: Ah number fifteen in your program, number one in your hearts,
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Speaker 2: we saw flashes of greatness and then we saw a
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Speaker 2: whole lot of nothing that would be a wide receiver.
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Speaker 1: Tory Horton, Oh, Tory Horton, all right, very good, very good.
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Speaker 1: What is the role that you foresee for Tory Horton
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six? Let's start there.
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Speaker 2: Well, let's let's hope that all indications that he's coming
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Speaker 2: back in August and we'll be ready for at least
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Speaker 2: a good portion, if not all, of training camp. Let's
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Speaker 2: just assume those are correct, because this is the longest
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Speaker 2: shin injury I think I can ever remember in the
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Speaker 2: history of shin injuries. So let's let's just assume that
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Speaker 2: he is back. And I think the thing that jumps
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Speaker 2: out about Tory Horton is his ability to just find
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Speaker 2: the end zone and you know, and taking a look
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Speaker 2: at his history, I mean this is nothing new. I
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Speaker 2: mean forty seven out of his three hundred and fifteen
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Speaker 2: catches in his football life have been touchdowns. I mean
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Speaker 2: it's gone all the way back to high school. I
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Speaker 2: was looking at his high school numbers, and I mean
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Speaker 2: he didn't catch a lot of passes, but the passes
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Speaker 2: he caught were touchdowns. I mean fifteen of his thirty
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Speaker 2: seven catches were for touchdowns. He had more touchdown success
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Speaker 2: in college. And then you know, five catches, five catches
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Speaker 2: for touchdowns in thirteen receptions last year for the Seahawks,
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Speaker 2: and he also had a kick return for a touchdown.
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Speaker 2: So I mean, a guy finds the end zone. So
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Speaker 2: I think that's something and really that's something that the
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Speaker 2: Seahawks have lacked for a long time. I mean, when's
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Speaker 2: the last time the Seahawks really had, you know, a
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Speaker 2: red zone threat that just had a nose for it.
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Speaker 2: So I think that's probably the role for him. It's
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Speaker 2: not going to be quantity necessarily. I don't think we're
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Speaker 2: going to see seventy catches from Tory Horton unless Cooper
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Speaker 2: Cup you know, proves that he just can't play anymore.
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Speaker 2: And Rashid Shaheed gets injured or is ineffective, then maybe
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Speaker 2: Tory Horton becomes your number two wide receiver behind JSN.
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Speaker 2: But I think for that could be the role down
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Speaker 2: the road a little bit. But for this year, I mean,
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Speaker 2: I think the role is get him in there in
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Speaker 2: red zone situations. Hopefully get him, you know, fifty ish targets,
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Speaker 2: thirty catches, thirty five catches, and maybe at least match
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Speaker 2: his touchdown output from last year. If not, you know,
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Speaker 2: get up there into seven eight nine touchdown range.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. What did Buddy Ryan famously say or infamously say
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Speaker 1: about Chris Carter before he cut him? All he does
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Speaker 1: is catch touchdowns, and that's right. Maybe we got the
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Speaker 1: next Chris Carter on our hands here.
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Speaker 2: That'd be nice.
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Speaker 1: That would be really nice. Dick Faine with us our
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Speaker 1: Seahawks one series, He's chosen Tory Horton to break down.
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Speaker 1: I go back to the beginning of last year, and man,
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Speaker 1: we were really worried collectively as a Seahawk fan base
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Speaker 1: and as I think a radio station, do we have
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Speaker 1: a deep threat in our receiving game Cup and JSN
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Speaker 1: seem to be the same type of receiver, and of
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Speaker 1: course JSN went on to become the best receiver in
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Speaker 1: the National Football League last year, And yet we go
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Speaker 1: into this season with Horton having shown that ability and
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Speaker 1: Rashid Shahed now on the roster. They never shared the
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Speaker 1: field at the exact same time. So do you think
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Speaker 1: that we have number one, avoided that question mark heading
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Speaker 1: into this year? And then number two, how do you
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Speaker 1: perceive Horton and Shahed sharing a field together?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and both on offense and on special teams too, right,
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Speaker 2: I mean, what's going to be the punt return situation?
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Speaker 2: I would imagine that, you know, depends. I think it
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Speaker 2: depends a lot on the production level of Shahed. I
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Speaker 2: think he's going to get the first opportunity. He's the
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Speaker 2: guy that that you gave the contract to, and you know,
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Speaker 2: he still got at least one, if not two years
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Speaker 2: left on that on that contract, I mean, it's a
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Speaker 2: three year deal. But I mean, I don't think you're
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Speaker 2: going to be paying Rashid Shahed at age thirty, a
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Speaker 2: twenty million dollar cap hit in twenty twenty eight, So
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Speaker 2: it's probably a two year contract for Rashid Shahed. And
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Speaker 2: and so it just depends I mean, I saw I
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Speaker 2: watched Shahid yesterday at practice. He actually had a play
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Speaker 2: on the sidelines that I really didn't know that he
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Speaker 2: was capable of making, where it was kind of a
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Speaker 2: little out route and he got in front of the air,
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Speaker 2: he got right in front of the cornerback, you know,
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Speaker 2: chopped his feet, you know, broke down and got by him.
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Speaker 2: I mean that that to me wasn't something that I'd
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Speaker 2: seen Rashid Shahed do. And and we've had a lot
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Speaker 2: of questions from Hugh Millen on really how good a
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Speaker 2: receiver is Rashid Shahed really right? I mean, and he
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Speaker 2: was always said, hey, he can take the top off.
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Speaker 2: He's an elite, elite, elite return man. But he's just
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Speaker 2: right now kind of a mediocre wide receiver. But I
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Speaker 2: guess you could still get a little bit of improvement
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Speaker 2: from Shaheed because it's not like he's been used a
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Speaker 2: ton in his career, and so his balance with Horton,
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's a good problem to have. It's funny
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Speaker 2: because you have a lot of pass catchers on this
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Speaker 2: team that we all know, we all recognize the names,
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Speaker 2: and yet when you really break it down, do the
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Speaker 2: Seahawks really have a legitimate number two wide receiver on
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Speaker 2: their roster, and I think the question is still out
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Speaker 2: there to be had. I mean, we have no idea
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Speaker 2: because Cupp would have been that guy, but he might
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Speaker 2: be old. Rashid Shaheed could be that guy, but he's
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Speaker 2: really talented enough at the wide receiver position to be
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Speaker 2: a legitimate number two because the number two guys getting
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Speaker 2: you know, ninety targets. He's getting sixty catches, he's getting
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Speaker 2: eight hundred yards. I mean, that's what a number two
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Speaker 2: wide receiver does on a football team. Is it Tory Horton?
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Speaker 2: Could it be Tory Horton down the road because he's
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Speaker 2: so young. I mean, Horton's only twenty three years of age.
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Speaker 2: He's gonna be twenty three most of this season. So
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Speaker 2: I think that's gonna be fascinating to watch Chuck during
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Speaker 2: training camp when Horton comes back. How they use those
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Speaker 2: two guys they is one simply a replacement for another?
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Speaker 2: Or do they use them together? And who becomes I
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Speaker 2: don't know. I mean, honestly, if I had to guess
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Speaker 2: who's the number two guy in catches this year, I mean,
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Speaker 2: could it possibly be aj Barner, could it maybe not
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Speaker 2: even be a wide receiver who gets the most amount
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Speaker 2: of looks in the most amount of catches, because I
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Speaker 2: really feel like A. J. Barner is the is the
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Speaker 2: next guy on that offense to kind of step up
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Speaker 2: and become potentially that borderline Pro Bowl level player on
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Speaker 2: your offense.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't rule that out myself. Dick Vane
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Speaker 1: with us here on our Seahawks one Series one analyst
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Speaker 1: breaking down one key Seahawk player for one entire interview,
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Speaker 1: and today we're breaking down Tory Horton, number fifteen, the
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Speaker 1: wide receiver who did make an impression last year, no
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Speaker 1: question about it, but he only played eight games in
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Speaker 1: doing so five touchdowns. But his season ends with that,
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Speaker 1: like you said, the longest shin injury of all time.
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Speaker 1: His college career also ended with an injury, and we
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Speaker 1: didn't get to see him the lot in his last season.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we have to be careful of sports talk
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Speaker 1: show hosts not to take lightly injuries and not to
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Speaker 1: you know, cast dispersions because we know how physical the
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Speaker 1: game is. But there are some guys, Dick, I mean CJ.
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Speaker 1: Procie for Shad Penny. I mean, maybe they did just
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Speaker 1: have bad luck, or maybe they were injury prone and
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Speaker 1: couldn't hold up in the rugged gladiator National Football League.
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Speaker 1: How much of you is a little worried about whether
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Speaker 1: or not Tory Horton is one of those guys.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I kind of looked bad when I pushed
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Speaker 2: back at Softy and in the beginning of the season
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Speaker 2: before this long to shin injury of all time and stop,
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Speaker 2: He's like, well, you know he's he's injury prone. I
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Speaker 2: was like, what do you mean he's injury prone? I
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Speaker 2: mean he tore it like he tore his knee once
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Speaker 2: in college, and you know that's that's one injury. Is
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Speaker 2: that really injury prone? And now here I'm here, I'm
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Speaker 2: talking about the longest shin injury of all time. So maybe,
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Speaker 2: I mean I'm not I'm still not ready. I don't
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Speaker 2: love the injury prone label. And you mentioned the I
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Speaker 2: mean you mentioned the poster child. I mean C J.
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Speaker 2: Pros is the poster child, and Rashad Penny is probably
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Speaker 2: a close second. I mean, those are the poster children
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Speaker 2: for Seahawks injury prone players. And I'm not gonna dump
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Speaker 2: Tory Horton in that boat yet. But if Tory, Horton
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Speaker 2: comes back, plays four games and has another injury that
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Speaker 2: keeps him out six weeks, two months longer than you
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Speaker 2: know that that might be three strikes. You're out right there,
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Speaker 2: and you might get the injury prone label if you
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Speaker 2: get if you get the three long term injuries over
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Speaker 2: the course of two years.
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Speaker 1: You know, Hugh talks about this a lot and and
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Speaker 1: and I look, frankly, I discussed this a lot over
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Speaker 1: time as well. Just you want a wide receiver corps
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Speaker 1: that is varied. It's almost like a basketball team. You
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Speaker 1: kind of want to point guard type and a two
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Speaker 1: guard type and a power forward type. And I think
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Speaker 1: that the Seahawks have kind of achieved this with this
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Speaker 1: roster now with JSN being your superstar, being your Jordan,
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Speaker 1: and then you've got Cup and Horton and Shaheed and Bobo.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's a good variety of completely different wide receivers.
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Speaker 1: I think you would agree with that. So, when the
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Speaker 1: Rams are doing things to counter what the Seahawks do
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Speaker 1: well by adding to their secondary so aggressively this offseason,
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Speaker 1: have they covered all their bases in your opinion, or
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Speaker 1: have Mike and John stayed a step ahead of them
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Speaker 1: with the versatility they have at this position right.
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Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I don't think this is a team that
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Speaker 2: needs to invest a lot of money on a number
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Speaker 2: two wide receiver. I mean, they invested quite a bit
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Speaker 2: on Rashid Shaheed with the with the contract and then
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Speaker 2: trading the two draft picks, and that's probably you know,
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Speaker 2: as far as the investment goes, three years, fifty one
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Speaker 2: million for Rashid Shaheed, I mean that's a that's a
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Speaker 2: fairly significant investment, but it's it's more than I thought
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Speaker 2: they would give Rashid Shaheed. But really, you're paying for
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Speaker 2: two players, right You're paying for a wide receiver that
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Speaker 2: could potentially be your number two guy in targets, and
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Speaker 2: you're also paying for a all pro level return man.
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Speaker 2: So I mean that's got to be factored in as well,
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Speaker 2: because a lot of these number two receivers, most of
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Speaker 2: these two number two receivers aren't return men at all,
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Speaker 2: let alone all pro return men. So I like the
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Speaker 2: Seahawks wide receiver corps. I would call it solid. I
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Speaker 2: would call it deep. The only thing they're lacking again
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Speaker 2: is what we talked about a couple of minutes ago,
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Speaker 2: is do you have a number two guy, or do
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Speaker 2: you even need a number two guy? Is it is
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Speaker 2: it okay to if you're gonna get x amount of targets,
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Speaker 2: X amount of yards, x amount of touchdowns from somebody
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Speaker 2: not named Jack and Smith and Jigba, does it really
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Speaker 2: have to be a number two guy gets this much
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Speaker 2: a number three guy number four? Or is it okay
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Speaker 2: to have three or four guys all around the same
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Speaker 2: amount of targets if they have, like you mentioned, different
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Speaker 2: skill sets, and I think they do. I mean, every
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Speaker 2: one of those guys that you mentioned has been productive
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Speaker 2: and has scored touchdowns in different kind of ways, no
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Speaker 2: doubt about it.
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Speaker 1: How much do you think we'll see beyond two receivers?
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Speaker 1: I mean, we've just gotten into the modern day world, Dick,
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Speaker 1: where I mean four or five receivers at a time.
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Speaker 1: But we've also started to transition a little bit away
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Speaker 1: from that in the National Football League a little bit
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Speaker 1: more toward running the football. We've got teams with fullbacks
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Speaker 1: on their roster.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: We have a full back on our roster now. And
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Speaker 1: you mentioned Barner and what a step he could take. Well,
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Speaker 1: I got to believe that they believe Royo is going
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Speaker 1: to take a step forward as well. So, I mean,
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Speaker 1: there's no way to know this until we get in
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Speaker 1: the regular season. But how much do you think we'll
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Speaker 1: see of double tight end with a full back being
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Speaker 1: how how frequently will we even have more than two
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Speaker 1: wide receivers on a football field? If you're the Seahawks,
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Speaker 1: do you think.
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Speaker 2: Well, if Horton's healthy, probably more than we did last year.
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Speaker 2: I think we probably won't be quite as run reliant,
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Speaker 2: especially at the beginning of the season without Zach Scharbana,
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Speaker 2: And when you have zak Sharbona and Ken Walker, then
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Speaker 2: you know you're that's your end. You're you have no
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Speaker 2: Tory Horton. I mean, that's that kind of a pound
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Speaker 2: the Rock scenario. Don't don't get me wrong. We're not
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Speaker 2: gonna fun and gun it next year. I don't don't
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Speaker 2: think Sam Darnold's gonna be thrown for fifty five hundred
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Speaker 2: yards next season, but I do think that there, I
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Speaker 2: think there'll be a little bit more balance in their attack,
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Speaker 2: a little bit more balance in their formations where you
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Speaker 2: want to get. I mean, obviously JSN is going to
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Speaker 2: be out there. The effectiveness of Cooper Cup you know,
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Speaker 2: is he you know is at least as good as
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Speaker 2: was last year as he take another step back, that's
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Speaker 2: going to determine your formations a little bit. And and
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Speaker 2: whether they can find a way to get Horton and
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Speaker 2: Shaheed out there together and not be a redundant situation.
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Speaker 2: I think that's going to be a dependent that. That's
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Speaker 2: one of the things that I'm really going to be
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Speaker 2: interested in watching this team in training camp is what
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Speaker 2: do the formations look like and how much are they
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Speaker 2: going to lean on the on the running game. Got
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Speaker 2: it to my first chance to watch Price yesterday, and uh,
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Speaker 2: you know the thing I that that jumped out at
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Speaker 2: me at first about him is he seems to be
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Speaker 2: very comfortable in traffic. Uh there were a lot running,
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Speaker 2: a lot of things up the middle and where he
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Speaker 2: just kind of he's kind of get there. He kind
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Speaker 2: of slow down a little bit. He'd see a hole
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Speaker 2: and he kind of bounce a little bit, and so
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Speaker 2: you know where you know, you see those running backs
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Speaker 2: sometimes they kind of disappear into the pile and then
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Speaker 2: they and they pop out the other side. Now, obviously
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Speaker 2: the running back is is probably the hardest position to
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Speaker 2: evaluate in a non contact situation, as there is. But
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Speaker 2: you know, I was at least first glimpse. If you
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Speaker 2: would have told me, hey, that guy right there, number eight,
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Speaker 2: he was a first round draft pick and I just
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Speaker 2: watched him yesterday for the first time in person, I
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Speaker 2: could have been like, Okay, yeah, I can I mean
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Speaker 2: I wasn't like, wow, that guy's unbelievable, but I was like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I can see how that guy was a first round
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Speaker 2: draft pick.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Dick fanas with us as we wrap up this
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Speaker 1: episode of our Seahawks one series. Dick on Tory Horton,
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Speaker 1: the wide receiver who made his debut with the team
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Speaker 1: a year ago. Eight games, thirteen catches, five touchdowns, also
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Speaker 1: returned to punt for a touchdown. Look very comfortable in
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Speaker 1: that role. So scale from one to ten. I mean,
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Speaker 1: how big a fan are you of your weapon of
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Speaker 1: choice here today? How good do you think Tory Horton is,
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Speaker 1: and how good do you think that he could ultimately
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Speaker 1: be as a Seahawk.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think high end. I mean, when you're just
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Speaker 2: talking about potential, I'm like a seven and a half.
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Speaker 2: I mean I think he could. I think he could
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Speaker 2: be a legitimate staying healthy. I don't think he's a
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Speaker 2: number one in the NFL. I do think Tory Horton
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Speaker 2: could be a legitimate number two wide receiver in the NFL.
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Speaker 2: And I mean, if he stays healthy, I think he
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Speaker 2: could be. I mean we've talked to Hugh for a
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Speaker 2: long time about him. He is very high on Tory Horton.
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Speaker 2: It's just the health right And so if Tory Horton
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Speaker 2: gets out of this injury mode, I don't know why
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Speaker 2: down the road and mentioned already that. I mean, he's
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Speaker 2: twenty three years of age and it's going to be
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Speaker 2: twenty three almost this entire season, So he's got like
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Speaker 2: four years, four seasons of prime before you even start
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Speaker 2: to think about he's going to be heading the other way. See,
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Speaker 2: I don't see why he couldn't be a seventy catch
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Speaker 2: sixty five catch, nine hundred to one thousand yard receiver
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Speaker 2: at some point during that four year stretch. It's not
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Speaker 2: going to be this year, but it could be when
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Speaker 2: Rashid Shaheed' let's say Tory Horton explodes over the next
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Speaker 2: couple of years and the Seahawks say, okay, yeah, we
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Speaker 2: were not going to have a nineteen million dollar cap
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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty eight for Rashid's the heat. We're going
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Speaker 2: to cut him and then boom, Cooper Cup's gone at
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Speaker 2: that time, boom, all of a sudden, Tory Horten's your
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Speaker 2: number two behind JSN And I think Seahawks fans would
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Speaker 2: be really happy about that if they saw the progression
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Speaker 2: over the next couple of years.
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Speaker 1: All right, man, great stuff, Thank you very much, we
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Speaker 1: appreciate it. You got anything special plan for your little
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Speaker 1: radio show today?
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Speaker 2: Oh, you know, it's Wednesday. We've got Michael Florio today,
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Speaker 2: we got Petrocks whole day and yeah, hey, butthole is
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Speaker 2: exactly right. We got to talk to you know, not
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Speaker 2: just the NFL news with Floria. We got to talk
17:34
Speaker 2: about the Brendan Soresby situation too. He's been writing a
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Speaker 2: lot about that. That's been the topic dajure, So that
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Speaker 2: means topic of the day for you.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: It's French out there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, exactly, so we're at Yeah.
17:47
Speaker 2: I think I'll have that, So carry on, ladies and gentlemen.
17:52
Speaker 2: I want to hear more of new Garb. Okay again,
17:55
Speaker 2: a lot better than old Garb. I was not a
17:57
Speaker 2: fan of old Garby.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, none of us were nobody really was
18:01
Speaker 1: not even misscarf all right, man, thank you, we appreciate you.
18:05
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon. Hey, guys, all right, Dick
18:08
Speaker 1: Thane joining us here for our Seahawks one series coming
18:11
Speaker 1: up next. We had a hunch you wanted to hear
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Speaker 1: the baseball Brunch today. I mean, there was a lot
18:16
Speaker 1: of wacky stuff that went on in Baltimore, Maryland last night.
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Speaker 1: So a recap of last night's wackiness on KJR two
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Speaker 1: consecutive weeks. Well, if you caught yourself at home singing
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Speaker 1: this song, you.
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Speaker 3: Half yeah, except that I only say it as baseball brunch.
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Speaker 1: Good yeah, yeah, Well that's a little adjustment we made
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Speaker 1: to it.
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Speaker 2: All.
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Speaker 1: Well, it is time for the baseball Brunch here on
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Speaker 1: Chuck and Buck in the morning. Ashley Ryan is here.
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Speaker 1: My name is Chuck. How we decided to add a
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Speaker 1: second recap of the Mariners games. We're not going to
18:45
Speaker 1: do it every day, but feels like we need to
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Speaker 1: do it today.
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Speaker 3: I was going to say, these last couple weeks, it
18:50
Speaker 3: feels like there's been a lot of games that need
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Speaker 3: a second recap.
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Speaker 1: This one needs recapped because it was crazy. It was
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Speaker 1: the height of baseball's new rules that they've introduced a
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Speaker 1: lot of them that we resisted as a group, and
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Speaker 1: yet they've turned out to be very good for the game.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we got to give them credit where credit
19:10
Speaker 1: is due. They've improved the viewing of the game, the
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Speaker 1: speed of the game, and they've added a few little
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Speaker 1: elements that I never thought that I would be on
19:19
Speaker 1: the edge of my seat rooting for, like the challenge system,
19:23
Speaker 1: which pretty much won us the game two nights ago,
19:26
Speaker 1: and then last night. I don't know if replay won
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Speaker 1: us the game last night because the calls on the
19:32
Speaker 1: field went our way. But to be to sit there
19:37
Speaker 1: waiting wondering if several crucial bang bang plays we're gonna
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Speaker 1: go Baltimore's way or our way, And if we're being
19:46
Speaker 1: honest with ourselves, you could see how they could have
19:49
Speaker 1: gone Baltimore's way, and we seem to be given the
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Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt of those plays. Plus tavar is
19:56
Speaker 1: striking out because he forgot what the count will and
20:00
Speaker 1: started removing his equipment and didn't have enough time to
20:03
Speaker 1: beat the pitch clock. I mean, it was quite the
20:06
Speaker 1: display of new modern day baseball and how it bit
20:12
Speaker 1: one team right in the.
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Speaker 3: Butt well, and you even just get anxious watching is
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Speaker 3: the manager going to challenge when he's just standing there
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Speaker 3: with his hand up and you're waiting.
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Speaker 4: What are they finding out on the phone? What are
20:24
Speaker 4: they finding out on the phone. I mean, even that
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Speaker 4: is like they're not challenging. Okay, few, I mean it's crazy.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is crazy. And last night's game start a
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Speaker 1: lot of different people. Randy a Rose Arena with the
20:35
Speaker 1: big home run in the tenth, Ryan Bliss with his
20:39
Speaker 1: bang bang defensive plays where he saved our bacon a
20:43
Speaker 1: couple of different times. Logan Gilbert being pushed beyond five
20:48
Speaker 1: innings and he didn't internally combust. Yeah, going six innings
20:55
Speaker 1: last night, and we really needed it considering how thin
20:58
Speaker 1: our bullpen was. But to me, the baseball brunch stars
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Speaker 1: Mitch Garver today.
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Speaker 5: High fly, deep left field, flying back and gun. It's
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Speaker 5: a three run bomb from Mitch Garver and Themartors take
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Speaker 5: the lead. They cash it into the fourth inning.
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Speaker 1: All new Garf It's a three run homer. He also
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Speaker 1: is the greatest challenger ever put on the face of
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Speaker 1: the earth. He was excellent again last night, and he
21:34
Speaker 1: had some really difficult plays that he made three huge
21:39
Speaker 1: tags at home Plate for goodness sake, including one that
21:43
Speaker 1: was not easy from Wisdom that saved the game, in
21:47
Speaker 1: which Wisdom made a great play too, throwing around the
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Speaker 1: runner and getting it to a new Garf and new
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Speaker 1: Garv made the plays last night. I thought he was
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Speaker 1: exceptional last night. And as far as backup catchers go, Ashley,
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Speaker 1: we've got two good ones right now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we really do. And it's similar to the pitching situation.
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Speaker 3: Not a bad problem to have, right we were talking
22:07
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, or you know what happens
22:09
Speaker 3: when Cal comes back?
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Speaker 4: Who goes away?
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Speaker 3: And it's not as easy as you just pick one,
22:14
Speaker 3: But luckily Parida has options and that seems to be
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Speaker 3: the safer way to go, so you can keep all three.
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Speaker 1: I say, we don't let Cal back. That's what I was.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're right, what's that guy?
22:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe sit down there to Coomb and think about
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Speaker 1: what you've done.
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Speaker 4: Ronald, that's right, Yell, you're going to.
22:30
Speaker 1: Earn your stripes around here, buddy. We just don't hand
22:32
Speaker 1: things to superstars. So I thought Mitch Garver was exceptional
22:37
Speaker 1: last night, But obviously we were put through the Ringer.
22:41
Speaker 1: So was Dan Wilson, so was the bullpen, wondering who
22:45
Speaker 1: had enough gas to get through an inning out of
22:47
Speaker 1: our bullpen last night. Alex Hoppy did okay. Gabe Spire
22:52
Speaker 1: almost called him Chris, that's his uncle. Gabe Spire was outstanding.
22:56
Speaker 1: Farrera was not. And we've seen Farair be nothing but
22:59
Speaker 1: outstanding since putting on a Mare in her uniform. But
23:02
Speaker 1: maybe tired. Maybe the orioles are just good offensively. But
23:06
Speaker 1: he had to throw over forty pitches and still could
23:09
Speaker 1: not get the save last night, And as we went
23:12
Speaker 1: to the tenth inning, we had to. We had no choice.
23:16
Speaker 1: And if not for a phantom I L stint from
23:18
Speaker 1: Cooper Criswell, we wouldn't even have had Nick Devilla to
23:21
Speaker 1: be able to pitch for us last night in the
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Speaker 1: tenth inning. We would have probably been thrown new Garve
23:26
Speaker 1: out there real excited.
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Speaker 3: I was like, who is what's gonna happen in the
23:30
Speaker 3: tenth I can't wait to get there.
23:32
Speaker 1: But Davilla hits the first battery faces and immediately you
23:36
Speaker 1: start thinking, oh, he's pissing down his leg and what
23:42
Speaker 1: does he do? I mean, he doesn't pitch great, but
23:45
Speaker 1: he does end up getting the save, the first of
23:47
Speaker 1: his career, no doubt, the most important pitches that he's
23:50
Speaker 1: thrown in his baseball life. And he told us after
23:54
Speaker 1: the game that he barely got to Baltimore.
23:58
Speaker 6: So my serior in free, my girlfriend. We're at zen
24:01
Speaker 6: Taipong thanks to the airport Seattle Mall, so about thirty
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Speaker 6: minutes from North. It's a comma.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
24:08
Speaker 6: I got a call from Jr. For By manager say heybody,
24:11
Speaker 6: you're gonna head over here and you're gonna need the
24:12
Speaker 6: team at Baltimore. It's like, okay, so check out Red
24:16
Speaker 6: Itime and I'm thinking, like kind of reservations at seven thirty.
24:21
Speaker 6: This is kind of crazy. Seven forty five. Food's kind
24:24
Speaker 6: of rolling out, kind of don't know when I'm flying
24:26
Speaker 6: outf I think it's like eleven fifty, you know, maybe
24:29
Speaker 6: have some time. Get a call from Jack around like
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Speaker 6: eight and he's like, hey, you're leaving at tense twenty
24:35
Speaker 6: right now. I was like ten twenty. The mental gymnastics
24:39
Speaker 6: of thirty minutes south. You gotta grab my stuff in Tacoma.
24:42
Speaker 6: Then I gotta go to Marano grab my stuff in
24:44
Speaker 6: the hotel. So I ended up having the second klubbe
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Speaker 6: the assistant klobe bringing my stuff up, meeting me at
24:50
Speaker 6: the departure gate at gate thirty of the last airlines,
24:53
Speaker 6: and I don't have any clothes with me right now.
24:57
Speaker 6: And I'm like, well, I'm on the taxis. Probably I
25:01
Speaker 6: don't play. I don't know what's going on. Let's way
25:04
Speaker 6: I get in there, let's see what's up. I'm not
25:06
Speaker 6: too sure. I'm like fifty to fifty, not really too sure.
25:11
Speaker 6: We got here at like six forty five. Uh, get
25:14
Speaker 6: into my room. It's like eat a fie. I'm like,
25:17
Speaker 6: all right, let's just put the blinds up and get
25:20
Speaker 6: like four hours of sleep. I get on the third
25:22
Speaker 6: bus at two thirty and I'm like, still not active.
25:25
Speaker 1: I'm just like all right, all right, And eventually we're.
25:27
Speaker 5: In the game.
25:28
Speaker 6: And then I just gonnat believe I was in the games.
25:32
Speaker 6: I had goosebumps kind of going out there. I was like,
25:34
Speaker 6: this is not real.
25:36
Speaker 1: That's crazy. That sounds like every one of my flights,
25:41
Speaker 1: except I don't have any help.
25:43
Speaker 4: I can you end up somewhere with no clothes?
25:47
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Well, he got the job done somehow. Even
25:50
Speaker 1: that was a Houdini act. I know happy at a
25:53
Speaker 1: houdiniac for Rare. I mean, I know he gives up
25:55
Speaker 1: the two runs, but that was a hoodiniact, not to
25:57
Speaker 1: let the not to lose in that bottom of the ninth,
26:01
Speaker 1: and then Davilla does the same thing in the tenth.
26:03
Speaker 1: I mean kind of feels like you stole one. We
26:06
Speaker 1: will take it, not going to apologize for it. There
26:09
Speaker 1: were several games earlier this year where I thought we
26:12
Speaker 1: didn't catch we couldn't catch a break, right, So we'll
26:15
Speaker 1: take it and we will just count on the baseball
26:17
Speaker 1: gods evening things out for us.
26:19
Speaker 3: I think that's how I mean, when we were having
26:21
Speaker 3: all the bad luck, we figured at one point it's
26:23
Speaker 3: going to turn around for us.
26:24
Speaker 4: There you go.
26:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, And we had some bad luck too. They had
26:26
Speaker 1: some good luck as well. They had a couple of
26:29
Speaker 1: measly little hits that got their innings started. They had
26:32
Speaker 1: several of those little boosts to their chances last night
26:36
Speaker 1: as well. But it was a wild game, one of
26:39
Speaker 1: the crazier games we've seen in a while. And it's
26:41
Speaker 1: a six five win and ten innings for the Mariners.
26:44
Speaker 1: So what did we learn today? On the baseball brunch,
26:46
Speaker 1: we learned that new Garve is better than old garb.
26:49
Speaker 2: Yep.
26:49
Speaker 1: We learned that defense can win close games.
26:53
Speaker 2: Check.
26:54
Speaker 1: We also learned that Logan didn't die, Thank goodness that. Okay,
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Speaker 1: we can get ten more pitches out of him and
27:04
Speaker 1: he won't burst into flames.
27:06
Speaker 3: And at the very least you can put him in
27:08
Speaker 3: for the six then see what happens.
27:10
Speaker 1: And we also learned that technology can be our friend.
27:14
Speaker 1: Why I'm so inspired by it? I think I'm going
27:18
Speaker 1: to open up one of the new fangled MySpace accounts.
27:21
Speaker 4: That is a lie. You wouldn't even if it was new.
27:26
Speaker 4: It's about time you got on board, all right?
27:29
Speaker 1: Coming up next, we should talk about the NBA Finals
27:32
Speaker 1: a little bit. Today. Sports Radio ninety three point three
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Speaker 1: KJRFM Deep Away Brad Evans is going to join us
27:38
Speaker 1: set to nine o'clock to talk some World Cup actions,
27:41
Speaker 1: some US action, all sorts of action, lots of action.
27:45
Speaker 4: Love talking action, especially with Brad Evans. Yeah that's who
27:48
Speaker 4: you got to talk all the action with.
27:49
Speaker 1: He'll take all that action, Yeah you will. So that's
27:52
Speaker 1: coming away at nine o'clock today. Also some SUP at
27:55
Speaker 1: nine thirty today as well. But we've spent no time
27:59
Speaker 1: at all today talking about the NBA Finals Game number four,
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Speaker 1: is tonight looks like Spencer's going to be joining us tomorrow.
28:05
Speaker 1: Is he going to be joining us anywhere?
28:08
Speaker 2: Live?
28:09
Speaker 4: The least he will be in New York?
28:10
Speaker 1: Is that right? Yes, that fancy son of the game.
28:13
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was flying there last night.
28:15
Speaker 3: Unless he flew in San Antonio to just do a
28:17
Speaker 3: watch party at an empty stadium.
28:19
Speaker 1: Mitch isn't going to be There's not going to be there,
28:22
Speaker 1: that's right, So all right, so good Spencer's going to
28:25
Speaker 1: be able to take in tonight's game. It sounds like
28:28
Speaker 1: live at Madison Square Garden. Where are they gonna squeeze
28:31
Speaker 1: that he's kind of a human being because there doesn't
28:34
Speaker 1: look like there's any space.
28:35
Speaker 4: Put him in the front row, people can see around him.
28:37
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, maybe Mitchell put him right there on the bench.
28:40
Speaker 4: I was gonna say, sit him on the bench.
28:42
Speaker 1: Don't don't wear your silly cowboy at this time, though,
28:45
Speaker 1: I think you should wear it always. So NBA Finals tonight,
28:49
Speaker 1: game number four, and the Spurs have a chance now
28:53
Speaker 1: to even this series up at two games apiece, which
28:56
Speaker 1: I give them a chance to do. I don't know
28:58
Speaker 1: why anybody wouldn't give them a chance to do it.
29:01
Speaker 1: Now that they've gotten a little taste of victory again,
29:04
Speaker 1: and now that they've kind of conquered what was supposed
29:07
Speaker 1: to be in intimidating you know, environments, well I think
29:11
Speaker 1: they kind of figured they kind of hushed that. So
29:15
Speaker 1: for those that weren't giving them a chance to get
29:17
Speaker 1: back into this game, I just think that's silly. And
29:19
Speaker 1: now San Antonio has a little bit of momentum. Maybe
29:23
Speaker 1: the Knicks are just playing too good a basketball right now,
29:27
Speaker 1: and maybe the Spurs will need this experience, a failed experience,
29:31
Speaker 1: in order to get up over the hump next year
29:34
Speaker 1: or the following year, or whenever that case may be.
29:37
Speaker 1: But the idea that this series was over with this
29:40
Speaker 1: talented of a Spurs roster, with this freakazoid being the
29:45
Speaker 1: best player on both ends of the floor, I think
29:47
Speaker 1: was preposterous.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was ridiculous, and I think a lot of
29:50
Speaker 3: people immediately after they lost both games in San Antonio
29:53
Speaker 3: fully counted them out.
29:54
Speaker 4: But it is a seven game series for a reason, So.
29:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would expect San Antonio to even
30:01
Speaker 3: it up today and head to back to San Antonio
30:04
Speaker 3: with two wins apiece and ready to take back and
30:06
Speaker 3: then continue there expecting that.
30:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, I am interesting. Two interesting stories around Wemby. Number
30:13
Speaker 1: one is everybody saw the I mean it was a
30:17
Speaker 1: flagrant move against the team's other star in Jalen Brunts,
30:21
Speaker 1: and he kind of just like grabbed him by the
30:22
Speaker 1: head and threw him on the floor the other day,
30:26
Speaker 1: and you know, I think technically he probably should be
30:32
Speaker 1: suspended for such an action the next game. I think
30:36
Speaker 1: we've seen guys get suspended for stuff like that before,
30:39
Speaker 1: but never the featured attraction. So let's put it this way.
30:45
Speaker 1: If they bent the rules for Wemby, I'm glad they did,
30:48
Speaker 1: because there have been some situations in the past where
30:50
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's the NBA Finals, are you kidding me?
30:53
Speaker 1: There was a Western Conference Finals, if you remember, involving
30:56
Speaker 1: the Spurs, where the Sons were the favorite team and
31:00
Speaker 1: Robert or chucked pardon the verb, Steve Nash like into
31:05
Speaker 1: the third row and it was a horribly horrible foul
31:11
Speaker 1: to the other team star player, and then naturally, a
31:14
Speaker 1: couple of guys from the Suns step out onto the court,
31:17
Speaker 1: including Amari Stodemier and David Stern ruled it as the
31:20
Speaker 1: letter of the law. You can't come out of the court.
31:23
Speaker 4: But you can throw Steve Nash into cant.
31:26
Speaker 1: And so Ori gets away with throwing Steve Nash into
31:29
Speaker 1: the stands Scott free and the Sons had to play
31:31
Speaker 1: with like without four players in Game seven, including their
31:35
Speaker 1: second best player in the game. So to me, it's like, man,
31:39
Speaker 1: I flush the damn rules. It's the NBA Finals. I
31:42
Speaker 1: realized he shouldn't have grabbed him by the head, and
31:45
Speaker 1: I realized Brunson's a superstar.
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Speaker 2: Two.
31:48
Speaker 1: But I want to watch Wimby and Bronson play in
31:51
Speaker 1: game four. I don't want us to stand on the
31:54
Speaker 1: actual tactical rule that you can't allow that or will
31:59
Speaker 1: suspend you for the new Yeah.
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Speaker 3: But at the same time, Wimby does have to be
32:02
Speaker 3: careful because this is the second time where he could
32:04
Speaker 3: have been suspended the elbow, being the first time earlier
32:07
Speaker 3: in the playoffs, and so I don't think if he
32:09
Speaker 3: does it again, I don't know how they can let
32:11
Speaker 3: him keep getting away with things.
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Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because he gets hounded for you're not
32:15
Speaker 1: physical enough. You're not physical enough. Everybody's making fun of
32:17
Speaker 1: him not being physical enough. So you carry that mindset
32:20
Speaker 1: into the net. Well, I'm going to be physical tonight,
32:22
Speaker 1: that's sure. And then the next thing you know, you're
32:24
Speaker 1: grabbing a guy by his braids, you know. And so
32:27
Speaker 1: I didn't love that he did it, but I love
32:31
Speaker 1: that they're not suspending yet for it.
32:33
Speaker 4: Yeah, you don't want the best players out of the finals.
32:35
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly, So he will play tonight, was not suspended,
32:40
Speaker 1: and we'll see how the next deal is because now
32:42
Speaker 1: the next little playground rules, they're certainly going to approach
32:46
Speaker 1: Wimby and that kind of that kind of conduct a
32:48
Speaker 1: little differently tonight. There's no question about there's going to
32:52
Speaker 1: be a retaliation to some degree, whether strategically or As
32:56
Speaker 1: Jay Williams put it this morning on the air, I
32:58
Speaker 1: would start the game by elbow him right in the chest.
33:01
Speaker 1: I would have somebody elbow him right in the chest
33:03
Speaker 1: to remind him you're not the only one that's going
33:05
Speaker 1: to get away with some stuff tonight.
33:07
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got to show him whose boss. I would
33:08
Speaker 3: just drill him in the ribs with a fastball.
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Speaker 4: Isn't that long sport?
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Speaker 2: Back?
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Speaker 1: Wrong sport? Okay, wrong sport. It's a very bucky of you,
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Speaker 1: all right, Brad Evans, Next Sports Radio ninety three point
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