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Capítulo 102: The Problem With Podcasting · Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela]

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Speaker 1: So we have a couple of segments today before we
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Speaker 1: We have some questions. Y'all have asked some questions. Uh,
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Speaker 1: and this the first one is short one, a fun one, um,
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Speaker 1: and it's about I love that the listener called this
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Speaker 1: crazy shit white women have done. How do I enter
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Speaker 1: future episodes where folks can quote call in and so
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Speaker 1: that will be one way that you can call in
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Speaker 1: and share your experience depending on what we're talking about
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Speaker 1: via that episode. Um. And also, like, don't send us
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Speaker 1: any weird shit, Okay, like yeah, not too weird, not
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Speaker 1: too weird. You know, there's there's a line. Be reasonable
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Speaker 1: if you're if you're a straight man listening, please don't
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Speaker 1: send us anything weird. Please behave Yes, that's that's what
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Speaker 1: I'm getting at. Behave please, um, because we're not above
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Speaker 1: shaming people publicly. Is the other thing? Remember that be
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Speaker 1: be weary we're we can be nice, but we also
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Speaker 1: you know, respect the boundaries and right to put anybody
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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, MS, can I share? Okay? So weird weirdoes
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Speaker 1: send us d m s all the time where we
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Speaker 1: talked about it. So I posted something to my story,
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Speaker 1: some disgusting man sent me a d M and he goes, right,
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Speaker 1: I think that's what he said. And then Patty Rodriguez
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Speaker 1: d M me because I posted that man's message with
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Speaker 1: his picture. I posted that man's d M you know
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Speaker 1: that one. I posted it to my story and it
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Speaker 1: has his his little profile picture in it um and
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Speaker 1: then Patty Rodriguez DM me and she goes, oh my god,
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Speaker 1: that's my husband. And I was I was wait, wait,
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Speaker 1: this is this? Is this a joke? Why would someone?
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Speaker 1: Why would you why? I was so stressed out and
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Speaker 1: I was so stressed. I texted, why did you do this? Patty?
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Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh my god. I was like,
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Speaker 1: Patty girl, what okay? I deleted it for my story.
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Speaker 1: I got nervous. I got scared because I was like,
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Speaker 1: this is sticky like But then Patty was like, oh no,
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Speaker 1: I was joking. I thought you would get it, and
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Speaker 1: I was like, no, I didn't get it because that
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Speaker 1: has actually happened. Like that has happened other like followers
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Speaker 1: have shared you know that their men, their man, their husband,
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Speaker 1: their boyfriend has gotten caught up either in like the
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Speaker 1: r d M s or friends DM so like, this
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Speaker 1: isn't this is like commonplace this happens. But it was
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Speaker 1: so funny when MoMA like called me all stressed. I
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Speaker 1: was like, Mama, I'm pretty sure she's joking. Like yeah,
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Speaker 1: I was like, she has to be joked. It has
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Speaker 1: to be a joke, right, get it has to be
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Speaker 1: a joke. And I'm was like, no, it's not. And
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Speaker 1: I was like, I mean, maybe it's not right, and
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Speaker 1: then thank god, it turned out it wasn't. It was like,
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Speaker 1: betch just a thing, like it really could have been exactly.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it could be anyone's husband. I'm sure it's
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Speaker 1: somebody's someone something. It's someone something. Come get your person.
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Speaker 1: Your guys out here whiling out at my d M.
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Speaker 1: So all that to say, I will post your wild
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Speaker 1: d M to my school, Yes, and I will see it.
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Speaker 1: It's true that all um. Okay, moving on to something
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Speaker 1: a little more tame. We got a question that I
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Speaker 1: wanted to address because this person asked, have y'all ever
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Speaker 1: done workshops for public schools? And so we've done like
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Speaker 1: the some public universities. You haven't done any public high
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Speaker 1: schools or elementary schools. We've been invited, but because their
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Speaker 1: children there's during the day and we have always worked,
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Speaker 1: you know, our jobs during the day, and so the
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Speaker 1: as you know there is like an invitation. We're down
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Speaker 1: budget and a budget and a budget because we do
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Speaker 1: need an honorarium because as you may know, we do this.
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Speaker 1: This is our job, this is what we do, this
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Speaker 1: But we have so we haven't gone to a public
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Speaker 1: school to have a workshop, but we have also provided
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Speaker 1: what workshops for public school students at like the Latina
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Speaker 1: Conference in South l A. And when we did the
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Speaker 1: Mitcha Youth conference up in where where we Oregon that
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Speaker 1: yeah so then you mean yeah, yeah, so anywhere you
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Speaker 1: know if if with youth with like high schoolers and stuff.
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Speaker 1: So did them. We had to see the conference that
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Speaker 1: you yeah, with the youth. We had them recite like
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Speaker 1: a look I manifesto. It was really cute. Um. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: So we have engaged with the youth, the public school
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Speaker 1: UM children that attend public schools, but we have yet
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Speaker 1: to actually be able to go because of scheduling and
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Speaker 1: timing and all of that. So hopefully moving forward will
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Speaker 1: be able to pe to Yeah, but conferences for sure.
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Speaker 1: Let's see. Um the next question, can you guys talk
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Speaker 1: about abortions? Well, there's just so many things to say
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Speaker 1: about abortions, So I mean, yes, we are pro abortion.
13:48
Speaker 1: Were pro abortion. If you have not caught onto that
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Speaker 1: by now, you know, go back. We're very pro abortion here.
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Speaker 1: I wrote in our article about language surrounding abortions and
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Speaker 1: how it should be inclusive to all genders, right, because
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Speaker 1: a lot of the conversation gets, um, you know, centered
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Speaker 1: around quote womanhood, a woman's right to choose. And while women,
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Speaker 1: um do get abortions right, not only do abortions abortion
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Speaker 1: services apply to just as gender women. Uh. So you know,
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Speaker 1: we're definitely pro choice here, and we let each other
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Speaker 1: know whenever we're out and about in the world and
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Speaker 1: there's some anti choice situation happening at an enabled clinic,
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Speaker 1: any kind of confrontations we may have, we definitely experienced
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Speaker 1: those here in l A. Yeah, and it's wild because
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Speaker 1: I see women posting about you know, very casually like
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Speaker 1: all of us do at one point or another going
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Speaker 1: to the women's clinic or in a planned parenthood for
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Speaker 1: a multitude of reasons. And it seems like it's not
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Speaker 1: that uncommon. Um, it's like kind of often that women
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Speaker 1: we know are we ourselves are met with you know,
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Speaker 1: anti choice, anti abortion, you know, demonstrators in front of
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Speaker 1: the plant parenthood. It's very bizarre. They're very active, they're
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Speaker 1: out there. There's also like a Venn diagram of like
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Speaker 1: anti choice people and like not and non like mask wearers.
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Speaker 1: Because I was I was getting my car service near
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Speaker 1: a plant parenthood, and so when I was driving, I
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Speaker 1: saw like groups of people um with their like little
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Speaker 1: dumbass posters, and of course all of them were maskless.
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Speaker 1: There were children there. It was a ship show in
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Speaker 1: uptown Whittier, and I was like appalled because even in
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Speaker 1: a pandemic, folks are harassing people that are trying to
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Speaker 1: receive health care services. It's a mess. It's a mess,
16:03
Speaker 1: and it's like you could just stay home and mind
16:05
Speaker 1: your in business. Um. Any who, we could probably do
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Speaker 1: a full episode on abortion. We are also behind the
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Speaker 1: scenes working on new material that will definitely touch on
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Speaker 1: reproductive justice. Not just abortion, but you know that that
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Speaker 1: whole topic engen neural, so just look out for that.
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Speaker 1: It's coming. It's coming. Also just off the top of
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Speaker 1: my head, because we've we've covered so many different things
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Speaker 1: that look at that our radio. We also interviewed Milli Nabobadilla,
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Speaker 1: yes starred and produced the produce the film for Rosa,
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Speaker 1: which is about the Mariten. We also had Brianna Ross
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Speaker 1: who works upon parenthood, and we talked about reproductive justice
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Speaker 1: and these were both at Both interviews were season four
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Speaker 1: last summer, so you can check those out any of
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Speaker 1: the streaming platforms. And Molina's film that she started for
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Speaker 1: Rosa was just picked up by HBO. Like to stream
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Speaker 1: Yeah exciting. I love when our friends and past guests
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Speaker 1: are doing amazing things oh yeah, oh yeah, and and
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Speaker 1: get like the recognition they deserve. And that's I think
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Speaker 1: the whole mission, right, like archiving the brilliance of women
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Speaker 1: of color. And I think when Molina told us about
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Speaker 1: the film, and what's interesting about the film is this
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Speaker 1: is a short film, an indie film that was directed
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Speaker 1: and created by a film student at the USC Film School.
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Speaker 1: I think she's like a math and m f a
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Speaker 1: um and Um. She created this film for her studies
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Speaker 1: and Julie Martinez is executive producer. Molina is the lead
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Speaker 1: role um leading lady, but she also is a producer
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Speaker 1: on the film. And when she told us about it
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Speaker 1: and when it was first you know, coming out, and
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Speaker 1: she gave us like a screener. I remember we were
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Speaker 1: we were saying, like, we definitely need to have Molina
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Speaker 1: on because we need to to talk to her at
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Speaker 1: the beginnings of this process because who knows where the
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Speaker 1: film will end up and now here we are. Yes,
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Speaker 1: that is, like you said, Mala, that's like one of
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Speaker 1: the most exciting things about archiving the experiences of women
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Speaker 1: of color and the stories of our friends, UM is
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Speaker 1: seeing their journeys. Um. I was recently on a podcast
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Speaker 1: called pod Brods and we both were on separately and
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Speaker 1: shout out, shout out pod Brods, shout out padre Lands,
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Speaker 1: and she asked me about archiving and like one of
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Speaker 1: the examples I gave was like Romo right and like
18:46
Speaker 1: Galifajardo Anstein and now like mill and really all of
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Speaker 1: our guests, but like those are the ones that off
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Speaker 1: the top of my head right now, and to see
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Speaker 1: like where their work was, where they were as people
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Speaker 1: when we interviewed them, and then where they are now.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's so exciting and like we love seeing
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Speaker 1: them shine. Yeah. Absolutely, And thus is the Look at
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Speaker 1: Thota mission. Because we knew that everyone was destined for greatness,
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Speaker 1: it was just a matter of well, let's just get
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Speaker 1: the interview and we'll get the tape and you know,
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Speaker 1: we'll share the story and then people can come back
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Speaker 1: and say, wow, okay, this is this is a little
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Speaker 1: bit of the beginnings of all these different people. One
19:23
Speaker 1: day people are going to call it the look method
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Speaker 1: or like the Look Touch. Yes, just putting it out there, now,
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Speaker 1: out there tm tm t m um truly that being said, um,
19:38
Speaker 1: the Look at Touch. We have another segment that I
19:42
Speaker 1: think a lot of people like that you can only
19:45
Speaker 1: find here on Look at Our Radio. No other podcasts
19:48
Speaker 1: have this segment, and that's Weird Things White Women Did
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Speaker 1: this Week. So you know, of course this is supposed
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Speaker 1: to be a little tongue tongue in cheek and a
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Speaker 1: little comedic, and the word weird is kind of loosely used.
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Speaker 1: But the segment, I think is also a place where
20:03
Speaker 1: we can talk about a little more severe acts that
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Speaker 1: white women engage in, from Karen behavior to straight up
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Speaker 1: white supremacy, right. Um. And so the white lady in
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Speaker 1: question this week is one Nancy Pelosi. So if you
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Speaker 1: are in any way, shape or form keeping up with
20:26
Speaker 1: current events, you have probably been um watching the Derek
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Speaker 1: Chauvin trial and you probably saw that Derek Chobin was
20:35
Speaker 1: found guilty um of like all three counts right that
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Speaker 1: he was being charged with. And in the aftermath of
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Speaker 1: those guilty verdicts being shared, Nancy Pelosi made a statement about,
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Speaker 1: you know, George Floyd essentially like sacrificing his life for justice.
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Speaker 1: So you know, a lot of people have been talking
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Speaker 1: about online this kind of um constant involuntary making of
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Speaker 1: martyrs of uh people who have been murdered by police
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Speaker 1: and black people in particular, right, And so here we
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Speaker 1: have Nancy Pelosi. There was also like an Instagram influencer
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Speaker 1: who is a white woman and she post and this
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Speaker 1: is something that a lot of I think Instagram influencers do,
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Speaker 1: UM and this woman is just one example. And I
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Speaker 1: could not find her handle on her page for the
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Speaker 1: life of me. But she posed kind of you know,
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Speaker 1: like fashion e shots of herself um on her Instagram
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Speaker 1: and the caption was like about about George Floyd and
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Speaker 1: about justice and about you know, the trial, but the
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Speaker 1: pictures were her and being like fashion model, i G
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Speaker 1: influencer moment. So you know, just reminders to write like
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Speaker 1: this is not about you, This is not about us,
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Speaker 1: like especially if you are a non black person, and
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Speaker 1: like it's not about us, and it's not about you,
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Speaker 1: and it's not a good time to like center ourselves
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Speaker 1: in the midst of so much pain and suffering, you know.
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Speaker 1: So that those are a couple of weird things that
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Speaker 1: white women did this week, and I wish that they hadn't. Yeah,
22:18
Speaker 1: like Mala mentioned, like weird things is a loose term,
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Speaker 1: like because when we were talking about, including Nancy Pelosi,
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Speaker 1: I was like, horrific things white women did this week,
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Speaker 1: because like, really it can be interchangeable, the weird things,
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Speaker 1: you know, that that particular phrase, because sometimes some funded
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24:57
Speaker 1: things White women did this week. Now it's time to
24:59
Speaker 1: get into the gardener. The meat. The main course of
25:02
Speaker 1: this episode, we are talking about the podcasting industry. We're
25:05
Speaker 1: gonna talk about ourselves in the podcasting industry, Latin X
25:09
Speaker 1: audiences and Latin X podcasters in the industry, and also, um,
25:15
Speaker 1: some straight up discrimination, racism, and sexism in the podcasting industry.
25:20
Speaker 1: It's kind of wild, you guys, if your podcast listeners, um,
25:26
Speaker 1: but maybe you're not like following podcast creators, or you're
25:30
Speaker 1: not reading about podcast industry news. You're not like really
25:33
Speaker 1: in the weeds and like nerd ing out on like
25:36
Speaker 1: you know, the production and industry side of things. This
25:39
Speaker 1: might be new information, and I think it's kind of juicy.
25:44
Speaker 1: It's a little wild. And because we're like dipping our
25:46
Speaker 1: toes now into networks and studios and like really professionalizing,
25:50
Speaker 1: we're getting speak peaks of some of this stuff for ourselves.
25:53
Speaker 1: So we're gonna share a little bit today. Right. It's
25:57
Speaker 1: like always wild to me, like the levels of systemic
26:02
Speaker 1: racism and discrimination because of course, like any type of workplace,
26:11
Speaker 1: any type of there's so many environments where that is replicated, right,
26:15
Speaker 1: and like that toxic workplace culture is just normalized. Right.
26:20
Speaker 1: And it's surprise also in the podcasting industry, not not
26:25
Speaker 1: that big of a surprise, right, especially when you take
26:27
Speaker 1: into account who's at the top, Who are the CEOs,
26:30
Speaker 1: who are the heads of major podcasting networks. They tend
26:34
Speaker 1: to be white men, or they tend to be white people. Um.
26:37
Speaker 1: There have been like emerging podcasting houses and networks such
26:42
Speaker 1: as ours and other women of color owned um podcasting
26:47
Speaker 1: networks and houses. However, we're gonna be talking about some
26:50
Speaker 1: of the bigger ones today and also some of the
26:52
Speaker 1: experiences of podcast producers that were formerly at networks and
26:57
Speaker 1: you know, they've written blogs and published articles, so we're
27:01
Speaker 1: going to be citing some of that, and like Mola said,
27:04
Speaker 1: talking about the listenership and what does the Latin X
27:07
Speaker 1: audience look like in So it's interesting because at this
27:13
Speaker 1: stage of the podcasting game, and podcasting is an industry
27:16
Speaker 1: compared to other industries publishing or what have you, music
27:21
Speaker 1: is relatively young still. You know, we feel like we've
27:25
Speaker 1: been doing this forever and there are podcasts that are
27:27
Speaker 1: way older than us. But really it's still a very
27:31
Speaker 1: very young industry, and so we're still learning about it
27:34
Speaker 1: and it's changing rapidly. But we are at a place
27:38
Speaker 1: where there is some research and there are some studies
27:42
Speaker 1: about listenership and audiences and trends and some breakdowns by
27:47
Speaker 1: like race and ethnicity, and so something that's really interesting
27:52
Speaker 1: I think is that in the past year, essentially right UM,
27:58
Speaker 1: Latino podcast listeners have increased UM by a significant amount.
28:03
Speaker 1: And one of the studies that we have been referencing
28:05
Speaker 1: is the Edison Research study. So UM Latinos have increased
28:10
Speaker 1: their their listening of podcasts since the pandemic happened. And
28:16
Speaker 1: Latinos also tend to listen to more audio every day
28:20
Speaker 1: than like your average audio listeners, and Latinos for example,
28:25
Speaker 1: tend to spend like four hours and thirty plus minutes
28:28
Speaker 1: daily listening to some type of audio, which is like
28:31
Speaker 1: a significant amount of time more than most other audio listeners,
28:36
Speaker 1: whether that's music, audio, books, podcasts, what have you. So
28:41
Speaker 1: it's it's interesting and I think that that makes sense.
28:43
Speaker 1: I think that Latinos like like radio, like music, and
28:48
Speaker 1: it seems also enjoyed listening to podcasts. And we know
28:52
Speaker 1: that UM our primary listeners are latin X people. Of course,
28:57
Speaker 1: we have listeners of all backgrounds from all over the place,
29:00
Speaker 1: but really the core of our listenership our latin X listeners,
29:04
Speaker 1: and so that tracks. It definitely tracks. Also thinking of
29:08
Speaker 1: our pod friends, you know, like a fit and cheese
29:10
Speaker 1: manout doing it bad ladies. Um, you know, it makes sense, right,
29:16
Speaker 1: And since the pandemic of all us Latino or latin
29:20
Speaker 1: X podcast listeners, fifty two percent are listening to podcasts
29:24
Speaker 1: more since the pandemic. That's that's a lot. That's a
29:27
Speaker 1: high number. And it's also interesting because we felt that
29:33
Speaker 1: the listens were our listens were affective because people are
29:38
Speaker 1: not commuting as much, right and so it's interesting that
29:41
Speaker 1: people are finding different ways to listen to their podcasts.
29:45
Speaker 1: Maybe they're not listening while they commute, but maybe they're
29:47
Speaker 1: listening while they're cooking. Now, maybe while they're gardening, while
29:50
Speaker 1: they're walking their dogs, or while they're skating. So latin
29:54
Speaker 1: X folks are avid media consumers. We know that film
29:58
Speaker 1: and television podcast testing as well, which is also no
30:02
Speaker 1: surprise why the industry is also paying attention to the
30:05
Speaker 1: latin X population or community. Yeah, and according to the
30:10
Speaker 1: Infinite Dial study which came out not too long ago,
30:13
Speaker 1: and we cite the Infinite Dial Study and Edison in
30:16
Speaker 1: our I Fund Women crowdfront campaign. So you can read
30:19
Speaker 1: these statistics for yourselves if you check out our I
30:22
Speaker 1: Fund Women campaign for look at that our productions, we
30:25
Speaker 1: do list this info there. But according to the Infinite
30:29
Speaker 1: Dial Study, latin X listeners are the second largest group
30:33
Speaker 1: of monthly podcast listeners in the United States. So Latinos
30:39
Speaker 1: are tuning in in English and Spanish and all kinds
30:41
Speaker 1: of languages. And like the as I said, there is
30:44
Speaker 1: an increasing interest on behalf of networks and studios to
30:50
Speaker 1: onboard new uh latin X hosts and to launch new shows.
30:57
Speaker 1: And we know firsthand because these now works are courting
31:01
Speaker 1: us and are in r d M s and are
31:04
Speaker 1: in our inbox. And so the industry is like knocking
31:09
Speaker 1: at our door at this point right like in major ways,
31:13
Speaker 1: and we have found ourselves having to navigate this this
31:17
Speaker 1: industry that um you know, we try and keep up with,
31:21
Speaker 1: and we follow a number of very talented podcasters, host producers,
31:26
Speaker 1: and we've read the testimony, the testimonials and the stories
31:32
Speaker 1: from these creatives about how discriminatory and exploitative the industry
31:38
Speaker 1: can be. I mean, if you keep up with podcast news,
31:41
Speaker 1: you may have heard a few years ago about Another
31:44
Speaker 1: Round and the issues they had with buzz Feed. There
31:48
Speaker 1: with BuzzFeed and the issues they had with their i P,
31:51
Speaker 1: their intellectual property UM. Basically BuzzFeed you know, built to
31:58
Speaker 1: an audience in a brand around this podcast, in large
32:02
Speaker 1: part because of the two hosts, right, who are black women,
32:07
Speaker 1: And when they wanted to leave buzz Feed Another Round,
32:12
Speaker 1: the podcast stayed with BuzzFeed and all the i P.
32:14
Speaker 1: And I think that it was like a huge battle
32:16
Speaker 1: for them, um. And they're not the only ones, right
32:20
Speaker 1: that you put your name, your face, your voice, your
32:23
Speaker 1: personality into a show for a major platform, an audience
32:28
Speaker 1: is built around you as a host, right, But the
32:31
Speaker 1: show doesn't belong to the host. It doesn't belong to
32:34
Speaker 1: the creative. And that's a big problem because this is
32:38
Speaker 1: a growing industry, and this we're talking about a lot
32:42
Speaker 1: of money potentially in ad dollars and in potential future
32:46
Speaker 1: adaptations for film and television, because now there's a podcast
32:50
Speaker 1: to film and television pipeline. So when the host, who
32:53
Speaker 1: are really the I would say the driving sort of
32:55
Speaker 1: heart and soul of many of your favorite podcast right.
32:58
Speaker 1: You associate the host with a podcast first, Um, are
33:02
Speaker 1: not able to like walk away, especially if the show
33:05
Speaker 1: was their idea. They named the show, right, But you
33:07
Speaker 1: do it for network. So even if you name the
33:09
Speaker 1: show and you right, you write it and you come
33:12
Speaker 1: up with all the ideas, if the contracts and such
33:14
Speaker 1: are set up that everything belongs to the network, then
33:17
Speaker 1: everything belongs to the network, even if it's all your
33:19
Speaker 1: brain child, right, UM. And I think that that's a
33:23
Speaker 1: big issue we've been seeing is like, yeah, I know
33:25
Speaker 1: the networks in writing they want ownership of i P,
33:30
Speaker 1: which makes things difficult for us because we're like, no,
33:33
Speaker 1: we have to own our intellectual property, right we have.
33:38
Speaker 1: We've built this from the ground up, and so we're
33:41
Speaker 1: for us, that's a hard no, a really hard pass.
33:45
Speaker 1: We will not ever sacrifice our i P. There's like
33:49
Speaker 1: no price tag for us, you know, UM, would sounds extreme,
33:55
Speaker 1: but it's true because if a giant network wants to
34:00
Speaker 1: offer you one million dollars excuse me, one million dollars
34:04
Speaker 1: for your podcast to own the i P, that means
34:07
Speaker 1: they see the potential to make ten million dollars. You
34:10
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And so, yeah, your intellectual property
34:14
Speaker 1: is everything and another round is just one example. There's
34:18
Speaker 1: also the nod that was a podcast hosted at Gimlet,
34:25
Speaker 1: which is not owned by Spotify, and there are two
34:28
Speaker 1: podcast employees working at your to Gimlet employees work working
34:33
Speaker 1: as producers, created their own show. Now they like they
34:37
Speaker 1: have no reins over their own show that they created.
34:41
Speaker 1: It was their idea. But the argument is they were employees,
34:44
Speaker 1: they were salaried employees, um. And so it gets really
34:49
Speaker 1: tricky and really messy um for us as like indie
34:52
Speaker 1: podcasters were like, no, that's that's their show. Like Gimlet
34:56
Speaker 1: shouldn't own it, Spotify shouldn't own it. Brittany Lewis and
34:59
Speaker 1: Eric at should own the nod on right, Um. But
35:04
Speaker 1: you know, these networks want to make their money and
35:08
Speaker 1: that's what it comes down to. And so also like
35:10
Speaker 1: to demystify what goes on in the podcasting industry. You know,
35:15
Speaker 1: we're like kind of one FT in, one FT out.
35:17
Speaker 1: We're very much in the podcasting industry, but we're still indeed. Um.
35:21
Speaker 1: So these kinds of things were able to either completely
35:26
Speaker 1: avoid or step away from. But then that also means
35:29
Speaker 1: like there's less financial security or backing, and so it's
35:32
Speaker 1: definitely uh, huge pros and cons. But I think protecting
35:37
Speaker 1: your I P is always the priority, or intellectual property
35:40
Speaker 1: is the priority. You want to protect it, you want
35:42
Speaker 1: to own it. And like I said, like as more
35:45
Speaker 1: folks create podcast, right, there's like all these dreams of
35:50
Speaker 1: like signing with this big network and and making all
35:53
Speaker 1: this money, which is one possible and if that's your goal,
35:57
Speaker 1: that's amazing, but also there's lots of stuff happening on
36:02
Speaker 1: the back end. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And what we've learned
36:06
Speaker 1: right is, um, saying no it is a part of
36:11
Speaker 1: the process. And we already have had the experience of
36:15
Speaker 1: having to say no to a number of contracts and
36:18
Speaker 1: opportunities and you know, potential network homes for look at
36:24
Speaker 1: that our radio because um, the offers you're being made, right,
36:28
Speaker 1: But when it comes down to it and we see
36:33
Speaker 1: the terms and what we would have to give up
36:35
Speaker 1: and sacrifice, um, it's not worth it, and it ends
36:39
Speaker 1: up being better for us, healthier for us, and for
36:42
Speaker 1: the project to remain Indie. So you know, one of
36:46
Speaker 1: the reasons we've remained Indie for so long is because
36:49
Speaker 1: the right deal hasn't come along yet, so and we're
36:52
Speaker 1: we're waiting. We're waiting, which is one of the reasons
36:54
Speaker 1: why we also said, you know what, we need to
36:58
Speaker 1: just continue producing our own. It's working for us. Let's
37:02
Speaker 1: launch this production company, let's raise some money, let's launch
37:06
Speaker 1: launch a crowdfund campaign. It's because now we've had enough
37:09
Speaker 1: experience with the podcasting industry, uh, that we realize you
37:15
Speaker 1: have to build your own to some degree. Yeah, not
37:19
Speaker 1: everybody does, right, There are plenty of folks who, like,
37:24
Speaker 1: you know, they made their name doing whatever it is
37:27
Speaker 1: that they do. They pitched a network with an idea
37:30
Speaker 1: for a show, and now they have their show. You know,
37:32
Speaker 1: for some people it's been like that straightforward, but for us,
37:36
Speaker 1: it just hasn't been. You know, it just hasn't been
37:39
Speaker 1: for whatever, for a number of multitude of reasons. Well,
37:43
Speaker 1: I think also like it depends what your goal is.
37:45
Speaker 1: Like if you just want to go in, you want
37:47
Speaker 1: to just host the show. You don't care about being
37:50
Speaker 1: a producer, like you don't care about the writing that
37:52
Speaker 1: you just want to be your host. That's your the host,
37:55
Speaker 1: that's your talent, that's like your glory. You love that
37:58
Speaker 1: you love to host, you just want to walk in
38:01
Speaker 1: and walk out, like, then maybe that works for you,
38:04
Speaker 1: you know you, for you, like, the i P isn't
38:06
Speaker 1: as important. But if you're interested in the writing, the producing,
38:10
Speaker 1: You're you're bringing in the guests, right, you're hosting, you're
38:13
Speaker 1: creating segments, you're you're part of the creative development as well,
38:17
Speaker 1: then the i P is probably going to be really
38:19
Speaker 1: important to you. My imagination or I don't think it's
38:23
Speaker 1: far off to assume that the reason that a lot
38:26
Speaker 1: of these celebrity pods are popping up more and more
38:30
Speaker 1: with networks is because celebrities are going to make their
38:33
Speaker 1: money in so many different ways that they don't need
38:36
Speaker 1: to own the i P of this podcast that they're
38:40
Speaker 1: doing with Spotify or Amazon or whomever. Right, And so
38:44
Speaker 1: it also sets a precedent for the smaller creators, right that,
38:48
Speaker 1: because maybe we're smaller and we have a smaller reach
38:51
Speaker 1: than let's say, a very famous person that I won't name.
38:54
Speaker 1: You know, um, yes, um, you know. So, so then
39:01
Speaker 1: our maybe the assumption is that i P is not
39:04
Speaker 1: as important, right, But no, the i P is extremely important.
39:06
Speaker 1: But it also depends on what your goals are UM
39:09
Speaker 1: and what you want to walk away with? So UM,
39:13
Speaker 1: if you're interested in learning more about the various experiences
39:19
Speaker 1: of podcast hosts, podcast producers who have experienced exploitation, discrimination, racism,
39:28
Speaker 1: sexism in their work in the podcasting industry at various
39:33
Speaker 1: podcasting studios, what have you? I recommend looking into Another
39:38
Speaker 1: Round right and their story, which you can find online.
39:42
Speaker 1: It's been written about, it's been covered, it's been tweeted about.
39:44
Speaker 1: The whole thing. UM. Sire Vevil has also tweeted and
39:48
Speaker 1: written about and shared on Twitter and online UM about
39:52
Speaker 1: their experiences in the podcasting industry, as well as sam standers.
39:57
Speaker 1: So those are just a few. There are more. There
39:59
Speaker 1: are others of UM, but that's a handful and if
40:01
Speaker 1: you start there, UM you'll find more. So it's thing.
40:06
Speaker 1: I also want to mention this article published by The
40:09
Speaker 1: Verge and it's about the NOD and they also mentioned
40:13
Speaker 1: a couple of the other podcasts that have been in
40:16
Speaker 1: this these industry podcasts that have been in this battle
40:19
Speaker 1: the creators and the podcast network and they reference Another
40:23
Speaker 1: Round UM and also Misha Yusef who had a show
40:27
Speaker 1: with KPCC called tell Me Who I Am? And so
40:33
Speaker 1: there's there's definitely like Molas said, once you find one,
40:36
Speaker 1: you will definitely find the other. So if that's something
40:38
Speaker 1: that interests you and you just want to know more
40:40
Speaker 1: about equity in the podcasting industry and why diversity and
40:44
Speaker 1: inclusion is not the main goal or shouldn't be the
40:48
Speaker 1: final goal is should be equity. Like this is a
40:51
Speaker 1: good place to start and all that to say, you know,
40:55
Speaker 1: I don't think that podcasting is any different than any
40:58
Speaker 1: other industry when it comes to the bullshit and exploitation
41:02
Speaker 1: and ownership unfortunately. So I also want to reiterate that,
41:07
Speaker 1: like it is so young that I think there's um
41:10
Speaker 1: an opportunity here to like course correct and to board
41:15
Speaker 1: your own paths within it, to kind of, you know,
41:19
Speaker 1: lesson some of the the negativity that we might experience
41:24
Speaker 1: right in our podcasting lives. Um yeah, I mean I
41:30
Speaker 1: think about it to mala is, like right now we
41:32
Speaker 1: have like part time employees, we like hire people on
41:37
Speaker 1: a project basis. I like the goal is that we're
41:41
Speaker 1: we all have a full time team and staff at
41:44
Speaker 1: some point, right And so I am now thinking about
41:46
Speaker 1: like what kind of leader do I want to be?
41:49
Speaker 1: If you and I are like leaders, owners, CEOs of
41:54
Speaker 1: local productions, like what kind of equitable also like happy
42:00
Speaker 1: work environment who I want to create because I did
42:02
Speaker 1: in some awful workplace situations. I know you have as well, Right,
42:08
Speaker 1: so the last thing I would ever want to do
42:11
Speaker 1: is replicate any of that, right. And you see, like
42:15
Speaker 1: and this is a whole other podcast episode, but like
42:17
Speaker 1: you see some of these like women lad feminists led
42:23
Speaker 1: startups right that end up like crumbling and crashing, you know,
42:28
Speaker 1: um years after they've started, because their employees come out
42:33
Speaker 1: and share like all of the abuse and exploitation they
42:36
Speaker 1: suffered at this quote feminist organization or this feminist stuff.
42:40
Speaker 1: And so there's just a lot to think about. And
42:43
Speaker 1: I think a lot of responsibility, a lot of responsibility.
42:47
Speaker 1: It's very nerve wracking and scary, and you know, because
42:51
Speaker 1: of course we're reminded of the tried and truth saying
42:55
Speaker 1: there's no such thing as good bosses. So I don't know,
42:59
Speaker 1: it's like, how do you avoid being a boss? Well,
43:03
Speaker 1: well technically, And I'm like, look, dude, like like work remote,
43:12
Speaker 1: like work remote, four day work. We come in when
43:15
Speaker 1: you need to just just meet the deadline, get the
43:19
Speaker 1: thing done. Like for example, like, well, Mile and I
43:22
Speaker 1: are working remote, but it's like we don't take meetings
43:24
Speaker 1: before ten am. No, like if we were to be
43:29
Speaker 1: like in a in a office setting like you and I,
43:32
Speaker 1: plus like our team, like come in at ten, come
43:36
Speaker 1: in at noon, take Friday off, you know, because things
43:40
Speaker 1: still get done. We're very productive. Yeah, and so it
43:44
Speaker 1: doesn't need to be fucking nine five Monday to Friday.
43:47
Speaker 1: Take a long lunch. I do not give a ship. Literally,
43:50
Speaker 1: take a long lunch, get here late, have a drink.
43:53
Speaker 1: It's fine because we're gonna be late, we're gonna take
43:57
Speaker 1: lug lunches, and we're gonna have a so like you know, yeah,
44:05
Speaker 1: so come work for us, Come work for us at
44:08
Speaker 1: look at our productions. I mean no, truly think about it.
44:12
Speaker 1: Think about it, Like if you're listening to podcasts, you
44:15
Speaker 1: enjoy podcasts, maybe there's something in your future work wise
44:21
Speaker 1: or creatively that can happen in the podcasting space. Just
44:25
Speaker 1: like any other industry. UM podcasting networks need uh web
44:30
Speaker 1: designers and graphic designers and attorneys. We work with all
44:34
Speaker 1: of those people. We work with audio editors who work
44:36
Speaker 1: with attorneys. We work with artists, We work with DJs,
44:40
Speaker 1: We work with musicians. We we you know, we interview
44:43
Speaker 1: all kinds of people. Um, we have a project manager now,
44:48
Speaker 1: I mean podcasters need grant writers. Like, there's all kinds
44:52
Speaker 1: of different ways to work in podcasting aside from hosting
44:56
Speaker 1: a podcast. Yeah, so even and like as we grow
45:01
Speaker 1: out our newsletter, it's like, Okay, I've been doing our
45:05
Speaker 1: newsletter pretty inconsistently. If you're a subscriber, you probably know that, right,
45:08
Speaker 1: And like we're doing our best to build it up,
45:11
Speaker 1: because here's the thing. You can't just like send out it.
45:13
Speaker 1: I mean you can, but like writing copy for a
45:17
Speaker 1: newsletter is its own skill set, and so PETE teams
45:20
Speaker 1: like have copywriters like just for their newsletter, you know. So,
45:25
Speaker 1: like there's really so many different avenues that if you
45:28
Speaker 1: are interested in the podcasting industry, even after listening to
45:31
Speaker 1: this episode, right right right, if you're still interested, still interesting,
45:35
Speaker 1: there are so many different avenues than other than like
45:38
Speaker 1: hosting and producing. Um, and it just depends, like again,
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Speaker 1: what your goals are. So yeah, I don't know, um,
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Speaker 1: if you think about it. Our current team is composed
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Speaker 1: of mostly women who were listeners or followers or you know,
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Speaker 1: with the exception of Micah, who is my brother's girlfriend.
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Speaker 1: But other than Mica, every you know, Marianna, Jessica, UM
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Speaker 1: Jordan's listeners followers who then applied when we had opportunities
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Speaker 1: open up or you know, we were made aware of
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Speaker 1: their work and we reached out to them to work
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Speaker 1: with us. So there's always an opportunity. We're growing, so
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Speaker 1: keep in touch, you know. UM, folks email us sometimes
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Speaker 1: with resumes or let us know that they're around, and
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Speaker 1: then things come up and we do end up saying like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I mean, we hope you enjoyed this episode. And you know,
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Speaker 1: the hope is always to like demystify some of the
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Speaker 1: stuff because nobody told us any of this, right, Like
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Speaker 1: nobody talked to us about making money in the podcasting space,
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Speaker 1: or if you're pitching, how much money you should ask for?
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Speaker 1: Like these are conversations that are kept secret on purpose. UM.
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Speaker 1: So you know, as we continue to go through this,
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Speaker 1: we will share with y'all and also why it's been
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Speaker 1: so important for us to launch our own production house
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