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Detroit Tigers Breakout Candidates · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

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Speaker 1: And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
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Speaker 1: the Battle Territory Network, Detroit Tiger's podcast I'm Curious. Ecley
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Speaker 1: with me is always the man who refuses to lose
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Speaker 1: an hour of sleep because he's a winner.
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Speaker 2: He is Cody saving Egg.
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Speaker 3: And how you doing doing good? Karen? We are kind
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Speaker 3: of in the dog days of spring training here Bright
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Speaker 3: Tigers are thinning out their clubhouse. We had some guys
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Speaker 3: optioned recently, including Matt Manning probably the biggest name. So,
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Speaker 3: believe it or not, we're only two weeks away from
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Speaker 3: opening day.
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Speaker 2: It's coming fast.
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Speaker 1: And that's why, like every kind of good moment gets
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Speaker 1: amplified a little bit because you're you want to you
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Speaker 1: want to start using the M word.
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Speaker 2: You want to start saying, you know, is there a
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Speaker 2: little you know momentum here? Is is tork gonna? You know?
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Speaker 2: Is you know figuring out at the right time? Is
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Speaker 2: hobby back?
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Speaker 1: You know, like all these things that we'll talk about here,
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Speaker 1: uh in a second, But first we want to let's
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Speaker 1: start with some of the topical injury updates lack of
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Speaker 1: updates in some cases updating lack of update.
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Speaker 2: The Tigers do a good job of at.
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Speaker 1: Least, you know, keeping everybody informed as best they can.
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Speaker 1: And and we have moderate moderated baseball activities for Parker
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Speaker 1: Meadows whatever that means. Uh, we we have uh Wetzel
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Speaker 1: Peiz is probably the biggest deal right there. He has
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Speaker 1: lower back tightness. So and I mean the gloat, especially
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Speaker 1: in this circumstance, but I think we should glow a
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Speaker 1: little bit.
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Speaker 2: Cody it.
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Speaker 1: Riley Green Center is looking like one of the like
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Speaker 1: few options right now at this point. Something injury could
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Speaker 1: subside there a little bit. But at the same time,
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Speaker 1: it's like it's Detroit Lions defensive line right now, Tigers
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Speaker 1: center fielders in terms of injuries now right now, nobody's
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Speaker 1: out for the year, so it's a little bit different,
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Speaker 1: but they keep adding up in a way that is
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Speaker 1: at least a little uncomfortable.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, we'll see supposedly Winsle Perez is going to
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Speaker 3: be okay and we'll be back in action. But one
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Speaker 3: of those things, let's take it with a grain of salt.
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Speaker 3: Let's actually see him back in action before we totally
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Speaker 3: dismiss that as okay. We're starting to hear, you know,
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Speaker 3: Jami Jones might get some looks not just in right,
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Speaker 3: but in center as well. How can he handle that spot?
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Speaker 3: So I don't know if we assume Winsle is going
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Speaker 3: to be okay, I'm not sure that's going to push
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Speaker 3: the Tiger's hand toward putting Riley Green in center. Now
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Speaker 3: Parker meadows again. We're less than two weeks from opening day.
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Speaker 3: He's not hitting, he's not throwing, he's doing light modified
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Speaker 3: baseball activities. Seems like we got to be nearing the
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Speaker 3: point where they're going to have to come out and say,
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Speaker 3: all right, he won't be ready for opening day, but
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Speaker 3: we hope he will be shortly after. We keep hearing
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Speaker 3: this phrase like the nerve waking up, which is a
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Speaker 3: new one, and hey, j said, it's still groggy. It's
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Speaker 3: like when you haven't had your coffee in the morning.
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Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't really know what to
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Speaker 3: make of that. What it comes down to is, I
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Speaker 3: don't think Parker Mettos is going to be ready for
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Speaker 3: opening day. But our guy, Jami Jones continues to swing
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Speaker 3: it really well. He's been pretty impressive on a great
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Speaker 3: path to making this roster.
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Speaker 1: It's got to the point with Jami that I just don't.
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Speaker 1: It's hard for me to envision just not carrying them
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Speaker 1: like they're they're like the you look at the list
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Speaker 1: of reasons, reasons why not?
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Speaker 2: Why not? Reasons are getting lower.
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Speaker 1: And lower and lower, and and again, I'm a big believer,
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Speaker 1: and guys like earning opportunities. And if there was like
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Speaker 1: if I was him and I didn't go West, I'd
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Speaker 1: be like, I don't know what circumstances around me and
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Speaker 1: what more I can do to try to make a
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Speaker 1: team here. And and to his credit, it does seem
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Speaker 1: like he's taking advantage of the opportunity and to the
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Speaker 1: credit of the front office for bringing him in on
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Speaker 1: such a such a you know, occasion that would deem
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Speaker 1: his his work necessary there. So you would like this
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Speaker 1: to be a little cleaner, because we're gonna talk talk
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Speaker 1: about Parker Metals a little later, and it's gonna be
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Speaker 1: it's not gonna be depressing, but it's gonna be like, ah,
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Speaker 1: when you see that he's you can write them off
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Speaker 1: for basically for opening day right now. And of course
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Speaker 1: Matt Berlyn continues to to rehab and you know, progress
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Speaker 1: and you know all those words. They don't want him
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Speaker 1: to be left out there, but the guys on the roster,
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Speaker 1: the guys that are playing. There was a little bit
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Speaker 1: of a showcase this weekend Cody talk about things that
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Speaker 1: you know, kind of glow up a little bit. I
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Speaker 1: think this is a good way to kind of to
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Speaker 1: to go into it. There are three things that happened.
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Speaker 1: Of note, there are more, but I boil it down
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Speaker 1: the three. Javier bay Is launches one into the stands today.
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Speaker 1: Three run home run on Friday ESPN, mind you, Torq,
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Speaker 1: Wait no it wasn't ESPN. I'm sorry that wasn't the
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Speaker 1: ESPN broadcast, but so forget that.
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Speaker 2: But on a.
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Speaker 1: On a TV broadcast with Dan Diggerson. So that's that's
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Speaker 1: really specially a J. Hinch is getting interviewed and Torque
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Speaker 1: hits a bomb and then he hits another one a
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Speaker 1: little bit later. And then today Carry Carpenter has what's
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Speaker 1: technically classified as a single close play at second trying
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Speaker 1: to stretch into a double off a left handed pitcher,
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Speaker 1: a left handed starter, a guy who's been around a
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Speaker 1: little bit, Andrew Heeney. So we have bombs by Torque
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Speaker 1: and Bias and then a near extra base hit by
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Speaker 1: Carry Carpenter off a lefty. What is the most important
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Speaker 1: thing for us to overreact to.
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Speaker 3: Hmmm, it's it's tough. So I'll break it down one
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Speaker 3: by one. The hobby homer is off an eighty nine
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Speaker 3: mile an hour sinker. I don't really put much steak
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Speaker 3: into that. You're not gonna see that caliber pitch in
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Speaker 3: a major league game very often. Good to see him
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Speaker 3: swing it. And not only did he hit it out,
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Speaker 3: he crushed it four hundred and forty feet, So better
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Speaker 3: than like not doing it, but just based on the pitch,
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Speaker 3: it just it just doesn't mean a lot to me, Tork.
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Speaker 3: We've been doing this for a year. Anytime he homers. Okay,
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Speaker 3: what pitch was it? Well, one was on the ninety
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Speaker 3: three fastball middle a little bit outer third of.
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Speaker 2: The plate, you know, not bad.
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Speaker 3: Ninety three tends to be around that threshold where uh
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Speaker 3: to work starts struggling, So that was all right. And
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Speaker 3: the other one was a horrible splitter that fung up.
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Speaker 3: He did what good hitters do and what we've sometimes
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Speaker 3: seen him do, seen him struggle to do, is not
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Speaker 3: kill mistakes. He crushed it. So two good swings from Tork.
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Speaker 3: The pitches, you know, don't I don't make a ton
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Speaker 3: of it, but the worst case scenario would have been
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Speaker 3: of Spencer Torkleson showed up this spring and showed no
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Speaker 3: pop and showed nothing, and studies reminding you there's power
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Speaker 3: in that bat, and that's good. We're continuing to hear
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Speaker 3: more about his altered setup and he's more athletic in
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Speaker 3: the box. I'm kind of the belief he could run
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Speaker 3: Spencer Torkleson out there for one hundred and fifty games
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Speaker 3: next year and he's probably gonna hit you twenty to
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Speaker 3: twenty five homers. But what kind of average is he
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Speaker 3: gonna hit for? How much is he gonna get on base?
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Speaker 3: What kind of defense is he gonna play it? First,
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Speaker 3: there's still more we got to see from this guy
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Speaker 3: before you can really get excited. So in a way,
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Speaker 3: I think Carry Carpenter might be the most important thing
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Speaker 3: because it's probably the most applicable to the actual major
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Speaker 3: league season. We want to see Carry face lefties. Well,
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Speaker 3: he's facing Andrew Heeney, a big league lefty, and now
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Speaker 3: as he get a hit, he punches a near double
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Speaker 3: the other way on like a fastball on the black.
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Speaker 3: So kind of a tough pitch for a guy to
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Speaker 3: hit left on left. That's really the more tangible thing
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Speaker 3: we in the public and the Tigers want to see
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Speaker 3: Kerry Carpenter, and he did it against an actual major
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Speaker 3: league pitcher, kind of encouraging. He's been getting more left
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Speaker 3: on left looks, some of them haven't gone great. This
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Speaker 3: was kind of a step toward, just like okay, and
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Speaker 3: he handled kind of a tough pitch, So in a way,
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Speaker 3: I think maybe that was the most important thing we saw.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I really liked.
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Speaker 1: Him having that moment there, because the problem is when
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Speaker 1: you get limited opportunity to do something and it's one
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Speaker 1: that you do not have the advantage in which, of
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Speaker 1: course left on left, like everything gets kind of magnified
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Speaker 1: negatively most of the time. So it's nice for him
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Speaker 1: to have that little moment, that little confidence builder that like, hey,
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Speaker 1: like this is something in my arsenal or he can
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Speaker 1: point to and be like, hey, this is something like that.
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Speaker 2: Wasn't just that I had this hit.
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Speaker 1: It's the way, like you described the ball outside, the
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Speaker 1: way he went about like doing it, I think is
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Speaker 1: just as important as the actual hit itself. You know,
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Speaker 1: hustle around the bases a little bit too, so he
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Speaker 1: probably had a little it was against the riding. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if he would have if he would have
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Speaker 1: tried to stretch that Cody I think I think he
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Speaker 1: would have been like, all right, cool, solid single, but
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Speaker 1: it gets a lefty. He's like, I need that extra
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Speaker 1: base hit credit against gets a LEFTI so uh so,
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Speaker 1: so good for him, and you know, I'll at a
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Speaker 1: fourth thing. We finally saw Max Clark, McGonagall and Jose
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Speaker 1: Prasinio uh where in the modified version of the old
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Speaker 1: English d with major league players.
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Speaker 2: So that was really cool that. That was a cool
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Speaker 2: moment too.
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Speaker 1: Uh Max Clark with a sack fly in his first
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Speaker 1: at bat. There is no way he was going to
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Speaker 1: let any pitch remotely hit a ble go by him.
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Speaker 1: He you know what I mean. That's that That's a
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Speaker 1: few things I know about Max Clark. I know Max
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Speaker 1: Clark is going to try to take advantage of the
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Speaker 1: moment and that that was an example of that there too.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of means nothing, but in a way,
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Speaker 3: you know, guy gets in his first spring training game,
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Speaker 3: I'm sure there's some nerves you want to show out.
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Speaker 3: And he didn't swing for the fences and try to
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Speaker 3: crush a ball and strike out. He played the game
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Speaker 3: and hit a sack fly. I thought it was cool.
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Speaker 3: He got like a ton of high fives on the
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Speaker 3: dugout there, just like hell yeah. So I don't know,
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Speaker 3: it doesn't really mean anything, but in a way told me,
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Speaker 3: all right, here's this guy in a big moment and
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Speaker 3: he's able to stay focused on executing his plan at
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Speaker 3: the plate. You know, I think we've seen guys getting
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Speaker 3: that setting before and tried to do too much. I
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Speaker 3: think the actual most interesting thing we've seen over the
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Speaker 3: past couple of days is Casey Mice, Casey Miz suddenly
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Speaker 3: looking like the Casey Mice we had been waiting to
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Speaker 3: see the splitter six whiffs on six swings. Literally, I
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Speaker 3: think the best his splitter has ever looked in his
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Speaker 3: professional career. And again, you know, even before that outing,
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Speaker 3: two outings ago, I had got a text from a
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Speaker 3: scout saying I just walked out of the park and thinking,
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Speaker 3: Casey Mies is more starterish than I've ever seen him.
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Speaker 3: And it's like it makes a lot of things complicated
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Speaker 3: when he needs to look this good, because it's like, dang,
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Speaker 3: you want to take this guy on the team, but
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Speaker 3: kenzama Aida hasn't been a slouch either, So can you
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Speaker 3: get them both on the same team, And can you
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Speaker 3: get Jackson job who continues to impress on the same roster.
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Speaker 3: You know, that would mean probably my Ada or one
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Speaker 3: of these guys pitching out of the bullpen, which would mean,
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Speaker 3: I don't know, Brent Herder has not looked good. He
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Speaker 3: might be pitching his way off. The team's chafing gonna
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Speaker 3: be ready? What about Brendan Hannafie? Like it gets really complicated, which,
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Speaker 3: in a way is what Casey Maiz was here to do,
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Speaker 3: was to make decisions very hard, and so far he
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Speaker 3: has done that. It's been super encouraging. How he threw
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Speaker 3: the stuff plus grade on his splitter was off the charts.
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Speaker 3: The slider got a little better too, But we saw
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Speaker 3: miss bats, which is what I most wanted to see.
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Speaker 3: Got a couple more outings left this spring, but hard
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Speaker 3: not to love what we've seen from Casey Mice.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I've I think I saw a YouTube comment,
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Speaker 1: by the way follow us on YouTube that said that
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Speaker 1: we were kind of like maze apologists, uh or like
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Speaker 1: hyping a guy up that uh, you know, isn't very good.
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Speaker 1: I don't remember the exact terminology. Uh, if you call
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Speaker 1: us that, and you know that's fine, certainly entitle to
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Speaker 1: your opinion. I'm not even trying to argue, but I
12:24
Speaker 1: am here to say like if we are like that's
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Speaker 1: why like like that that.
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Speaker 3: I don't mind being called a Casey mees apologists because
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Speaker 3: it's there. It's there somewhere, you know, and man, we've
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Speaker 3: seen it recently.
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Speaker 1: There there are there are certain you know, players or
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Speaker 1: even like individual player attributes that you kind of like
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Speaker 1: are okay going down with the ship. And I feel
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Speaker 1: like we've always viewed Casey Miz in the right light
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Speaker 1: and never tried to say that he was going to
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Speaker 1: be a future ACE or like a cy young winner.
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Speaker 2: But it's like he could he could.
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Speaker 1: Be this guy you can do one hell of a
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Speaker 1: lot worse when him has like a three or two,
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Speaker 1: Like you could do a lot.
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Speaker 2: Worse than that.
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Speaker 1: And there's still like, you know, he's not over the
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Speaker 1: hill obviously, like age wise, he is getting up there,
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Speaker 1: but he's not over the hill. Like it's still there,
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Speaker 1: it's there. So I just wanted to say, like like
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Speaker 1: explain ourselves a little bit it's like, we concentrate on
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Speaker 1: this because we see it and.
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Speaker 2: Because like it does exist.
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Speaker 1: It's just whether it's consistent enough, and in the case
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Speaker 1: of him this year, whether he gets the opportunity. Well,
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Speaker 1: two guys that are kind of linked right there mentioned
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Speaker 1: him earlier.
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Speaker 2: Matt Manning just not.
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Speaker 1: I was thinking back to last season, how like hyped.
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Speaker 1: Maybe hype's too strong a word, but just like, how like, okay,
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Speaker 1: like there is something here. At one point I was like,
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Speaker 1: there's no way he's not.
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Speaker 3: Making this team.
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Speaker 2: And then he didn't make the team, and was.
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Speaker 1: I know he got hurt, but like you know, never
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Speaker 1: really heard from the second half of the season. So,
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Speaker 1: you know, the the graphic here says, well, we see
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Speaker 1: him this season.
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Speaker 2: I kind of say no.
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Speaker 1: I kind of say no, Cody because the the amount
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Speaker 1: of arms that are ahead of him, both in what
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Speaker 1: the team thinks based on their actions, and then what
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Speaker 1: you know, the fan base clamoring.
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Speaker 2: No one's gonna be clamoring for Matt Manning.
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Speaker 1: It just it kind of seems like the team has
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Speaker 1: moved on from him in terms of needing to see
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Speaker 1: it out, not like physically moved on fro him, but
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Speaker 1: needing to see out like his potential.
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Speaker 2: Like I just like it would.
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Speaker 1: I would say it might be close to catastrophe if
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Speaker 1: we see Matt Manning this year.
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Speaker 3: All right back to Matt Manning. You know, I had
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Speaker 3: set a weeks ago that after talking to him, he
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Speaker 3: seemed more mature or more of like a Zen Matt
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Speaker 3: Manning than we had ever seen, which I kind of liked.
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Speaker 3: But gosh, the performance really from day one of Spring,
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Speaker 3: I mean, I watched him throw his first bullpen and
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Speaker 3: it was just like, not very good. He didn't really
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Speaker 3: look invested, like just the body language wasn't there. And
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Speaker 3: in each of his outings we've kind of seen this,
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Speaker 3: and so maybe Zen Matt Manning is not a good
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Speaker 3: thing because it looks like a guy who maybe didn't
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Speaker 3: have the proper fire, the fire that he very much
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Speaker 3: had last year around this time, there was just no life.
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Speaker 3: He wasn't commanding the ball. The mechanics seemed just kind
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Speaker 3: of slow. It was very odd, and I think the
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Speaker 3: Tigers told us exactly what they thought by optioning him
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Speaker 3: when they did. There was not even really the courtesy
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Speaker 3: of you know, look at the guys who also went
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Speaker 3: down one Sunday, Tyler Mattis and Chase Lee, Tyler Owens,
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Speaker 3: the guys who really were never in the mix to
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Speaker 3: make this roster. That's the barrel that Matt Manning has
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Speaker 3: now been placed in, and that's not a great referendum.
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Speaker 3: Very much makes me think even though aj Inch said,
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Speaker 3: you know, he's one tweak away from you know, being
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Speaker 3: a contributor for us, and we know that can be
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Speaker 3: true in the world of Matt Manning, but it seems
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Speaker 3: like his stock is suddenly lower than ever and well
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Speaker 3: we see him this season like, I think they are
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Speaker 3: a long list of guys in front of him now
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Speaker 3: and I think you start looking at the forty man roster,
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Speaker 3: are we into a point where Matt Manning is vulnerable?
17:39
Speaker 3: I mean, there's an open forty man spot right now.
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Speaker 3: If say they have to add Jami Jones. But what
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Speaker 3: if we get into the summer and you know, how
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Speaker 3: You Lee or Tyler? I guess Owens is already on
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Speaker 3: the forty man how you Lee? There are a couple
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Speaker 3: other guys. Maybe there's a waiver claim like who's going?
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Speaker 3: Ryan Kreidler's a little bit vulnerable And I don't really know.
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Speaker 3: We're getting to the point where Matt Manning might be
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Speaker 3: entering that conversation. That means the Tigers moving on from
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Speaker 3: Matt Manning by the end of this year Suddenly, I
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Speaker 3: think looks just as likely as us seeing Matt Manning
18:13
Speaker 3: in the big leagues in any capacity.
18:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. I agree with that, And like forty
18:22
Speaker 1: man management, you have to really be able to count
18:26
Speaker 1: on those guys. And you know, you talked about the
18:29
Speaker 1: cry We've talked about the Cryler piece of that, The
18:31
Speaker 1: Manning piece of it, I think is becoming louder and.
18:34
Speaker 2: Louder is like can you rely on him?
18:37
Speaker 1: And then when you're looking at it from the team's perspective,
18:42
Speaker 1: do they want to rely on him? And I feel
18:46
Speaker 1: like that answer is getting increasingly increasingly clear.
18:50
Speaker 2: Is the way I'll phrase that. Well, they may have
18:55
Speaker 2: sent him down, but they added another picture Cody of course,
18:58
Speaker 2: because why not? Why not add another picture. I'm driving
19:02
Speaker 2: this weekend.
19:03
Speaker 1: I'm driving down to College Station, Texas to go to
19:05
Speaker 1: a wedding and I see like, you know, notification and
19:09
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, you know, maybe they made some move.
19:11
Speaker 1: Am I gonna have to, like, you know, get with
19:13
Speaker 1: Cody here pretty soon? Blah blah blah.
19:16
Speaker 2: No.
19:17
Speaker 1: I was like, well, they told my wife they signed
19:19
Speaker 1: a a picture, and she goes, why do they keep
19:24
Speaker 1: signing pictures? And it does make some sense when you
19:29
Speaker 1: look at it, but the Tigers sign a one year
19:31
Speaker 1: deal with a club option for a second second year
19:35
Speaker 1: with Jose. I'm gonna try to get this right. Jose
19:38
Speaker 1: your key day, your key day.
19:40
Speaker 3: I'm going just urkety.
19:43
Speaker 2: Right handed picture.
19:44
Speaker 1: He's in the midst of Tommy John rehab and he is.
19:49
Speaker 1: He's twenty nine, he'll turn thirty this year, so he's
19:52
Speaker 1: a little bit of history with aj Hinch. He's a
19:54
Speaker 1: picture on a club friendly deal, So why not sign him,
19:59
Speaker 1: I guess?
20:00
Speaker 2: But why did the Tigers acquire him?
20:03
Speaker 3: Yeah? When I first got the notification, I kind of
20:05
Speaker 3: stared at my phone for like a good thirty seconds.
20:07
Speaker 3: I was like, what, he's a starter, right, There's no
20:11
Speaker 3: way this is a major league deal. And it's like,
20:13
Speaker 3: oh no, he okay, he's hurt. So Jose or Kid
20:17
Speaker 3: had Tommy John surgery last June. So what that means
20:21
Speaker 3: is he may not pitch at all this season. Aj
20:24
Speaker 3: Hinch did say that he thinks it's possible we could
20:28
Speaker 3: see him by years end. Given Tommy John rehabs are
20:31
Speaker 3: a little more fluid than they used to be. It's
20:33
Speaker 3: possible maybe late August September if the Tigers need a guy.
20:38
Speaker 3: I think it's just as likely he doesn't pitch in
20:41
Speaker 3: the major leagues at least this season. Maybe get him
20:44
Speaker 3: up and running for a couple of minor league games
20:46
Speaker 3: just to say he threw regardless of what happens this year.
20:51
Speaker 3: And I would also argue, like Tigers need an arm
20:55
Speaker 3: in September. Is a guy fresh off Tommy John? Really?
20:58
Speaker 3: What you you know? That can be a little dicey.
21:01
Speaker 3: This move seems all about twenty twenty six. There's a
21:03
Speaker 3: four million dollar club option for twenty twenty six. There
21:07
Speaker 3: are a ton of incentives based on the amount of
21:09
Speaker 3: games started. So this year seems like Scott Harris is
21:12
Speaker 3: way of adding a pitcher for next season this season
21:16
Speaker 3: on the cheap. It's the most Scott Harris move ever,
21:20
Speaker 3: but it's kind of smart. Orkidi has been a very
21:22
Speaker 3: good pitcher in this league. He has a lethal change up,
21:26
Speaker 3: He's capable of missing some bats. He wasn't very good
21:29
Speaker 3: last year before he got hurt. Obviously it will be
21:32
Speaker 3: a little bit of a reclamation project, which is the
21:35
Speaker 3: Tigers thing. Next year's staph Kintomaida won't be under contract anymore.
21:41
Speaker 3: Good chance Jack Flaherty could opt out of that deal.
21:47
Speaker 3: We could go down other possibilities if we wanted to.
21:49
Speaker 3: That are depressing, but bottom line, you're gonna need an
21:53
Speaker 3: arm and I think he already got one of those
21:55
Speaker 3: in Erkidy. It was a little soon to speculate on
21:58
Speaker 3: like will he be any good, but obviously he has
22:00
Speaker 3: attributes to the Tigers, like the changeup is a big
22:02
Speaker 3: one that sticks out pretty clever. The total what's the
22:09
Speaker 3: word just total symbol of like how the Tigers operate
22:12
Speaker 3: in the sat Wars era. Is this the epitome?
22:15
Speaker 1: It's the epitome of what they're trying to do because again,
22:18
Speaker 1: like you, they're selling themselves to these players, and you know,
22:23
Speaker 1: come in here, finish your rehab. We'll see what happens
22:26
Speaker 1: whether you know, whether you pitch this year, but then
22:28
Speaker 1: you'll have you know, a little a little less than
22:32
Speaker 1: a year in our system before you actually go out
22:36
Speaker 1: and perform for us. And he's still young enough that
22:40
Speaker 1: you know, after the twenty twenty six again, I'm assuming
22:42
Speaker 1: this option gets exercise, after the twenty twenty six option,
22:47
Speaker 1: that he could get himself like a nice payday, you know,
22:50
Speaker 1: nothing crazy, but like if Valve's Cobb at thirty seven
22:53
Speaker 1: or whatever, he can get fifteen million from the Tigers,
22:56
Speaker 1: and I'm sure, like you know, Jose can get something
23:00
Speaker 1: in a couple of years, the comparable, you know what
23:02
Speaker 1: I mean. So it's one of those like you, they're
23:04
Speaker 1: trying to be a win win organization. This is one
23:07
Speaker 1: of those scenarios where you get the win win aspect
23:10
Speaker 1: of it. So well, we'll see what happens. But just
23:14
Speaker 1: another another Scott Harris. Move Scott Harris to.
23:17
Speaker 3: A t Yeah, and not to be overlooked. Like it
23:20
Speaker 3: would be easy to say, oh, this is a guy
23:22
Speaker 3: we like, we'll target him next winter, but you sign
23:25
Speaker 3: him now and not only do you kind of guarantee
23:28
Speaker 3: that you're going to have him for next year if
23:30
Speaker 3: you want to exercise that option, but a whole year
23:34
Speaker 3: around your rehab staff, you're pitching coaches. Your system is
23:39
Speaker 3: kind of a smart way to do it. Yeah.
23:42
Speaker 1: Absolutely, always always thinking outside of the box.
23:44
Speaker 2: That's Scott Harris. All right, Let's let's go to.
23:52
Speaker 1: The point of this episode, Cody, is that, as you mentioned,
23:55
Speaker 1: we have a couple of weeks here before the season starts,
23:58
Speaker 1: and it's time to start making some making some calls,
24:02
Speaker 1: you know, you know, kind of putting your you know,
24:04
Speaker 1: putting your foot down and saying I think this could happen.
24:08
Speaker 2: We're not doing both predictions yet. We'll get to those.
24:12
Speaker 1: But the team obviously last year had several breakout players,
24:17
Speaker 1: and that's how you go from point two percent chance
24:20
Speaker 1: of making the playoffs too in the second in the
24:23
Speaker 1: divisional series in game five, mind you so like it's
24:27
Speaker 1: a thing that's happened. One could argue this is how
24:30
Speaker 1: the Scott Harris operation is kind of built on. Is
24:33
Speaker 1: players breaking out, like the young players progressing and getting better.
24:37
Speaker 1: So I thought we should discuss some of our candidates,
24:41
Speaker 1: Cody for to break out on this team, and I
24:44
Speaker 1: want to start with Resulson. So we we talked how
24:49
Speaker 1: many pictures we talked about in this episode.
24:51
Speaker 2: Eight ten, like a lot, a lot. You know, it
24:54
Speaker 2: didn't say Resulson.
24:56
Speaker 1: You know, you know who's like You're not necessarily you
24:58
Speaker 1: know who's like not. It's one of those people that
25:00
Speaker 1: are like waiting to see if he can be good.
25:03
Speaker 1: Results it because results it is good. I just wanted
25:06
Speaker 1: to remind everybody that in the postseason last year, he
25:11
Speaker 1: pitched nine innings, gave up eight hits, just two earned runs,
25:15
Speaker 1: had eight strikeouts.
25:18
Speaker 2: Like he'd stabilized.
25:20
Speaker 1: It was the only good thing about Game one of
25:21
Speaker 1: the Alds, the only good thing. So I think we're
25:26
Speaker 1: forgetting we're doing a bad job, and certainly the national
25:29
Speaker 1: perspective is doing a bad job of recognizing just how
25:33
Speaker 1: good Resulson is. The way I would phrase it is,
25:37
Speaker 1: remember last year there was a time where, like, you know,
25:40
Speaker 1: could the Tigers get like two starting pitchers in the
25:42
Speaker 1: All Star Game?
25:43
Speaker 2: Like Flaherty was like that good. I think Reese easily.
25:48
Speaker 1: Gets to that level this year if he's healthy, which
25:50
Speaker 1: is a big thing, because I would also I want
25:53
Speaker 1: to looked up. When's the last time he pitched six
25:55
Speaker 1: innings in a start? July tenth. July tenth was the
26:01
Speaker 1: last time he had a sixth inning start. So there's
26:07
Speaker 1: I say that to say that, like he just hasn't
26:09
Speaker 1: been at the forefront all that often of people's minds.
26:14
Speaker 1: But this guy is really freaking good and he's still young.
26:18
Speaker 1: I think Resulson is primed for a big time season.
26:23
Speaker 1: I would argue that hit the Tigers like win the division.
26:27
Speaker 1: Resulson is a top five reason why. That's what I
26:29
Speaker 1: would say.
26:30
Speaker 3: I think that's a pretty smart take. I think it's
26:32
Speaker 3: easy to take Resoulson for granted that this is a
26:35
Speaker 3: guy who profiles as the number three and could be.
26:40
Speaker 3: There were times at last season where he looked like
26:44
Speaker 3: a legit big league number two. I mean from September
26:47
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty three to June July of last year.
26:51
Speaker 3: Look at his era, I'm pretty sure it was sub three.
26:53
Speaker 3: I mean, he was nasty. His stuff has ticked up
26:57
Speaker 3: even a bit this spring. I think I think he's
27:00
Speaker 3: totally underrated nationally. Most people don't know he exists. But
27:04
Speaker 3: he's a legit big league pitcher who still has room
27:08
Speaker 3: to get a little better. So I'm totally with you
27:10
Speaker 3: on that one big my number one breakout candidate, it's
27:14
Speaker 3: Jay Hin. It's Justin Henry mLOY. This is a guy
27:17
Speaker 3: who's really having a great spring, looks comfortable at first.
27:20
Speaker 3: Like we've talked about, it's really just that hitter aptitude
27:24
Speaker 3: continues to show up in the box in a way.
27:27
Speaker 3: Last year's postseason was a little bit of a breakout
27:30
Speaker 3: for him. Tiny sample, but he was incredibly dependable. Other
27:34
Speaker 3: teams do not want him facing their left handed pitchers.
27:38
Speaker 3: There seems to be a really good path for him
27:40
Speaker 3: to make this roster, and I don't know, like there's
27:44
Speaker 3: more power in there than maybe we give him credit for.
27:49
Speaker 3: The homers were kind of coming in bunches for a
27:51
Speaker 3: couple weeks span there last year. Jayhen is a sneaky
27:55
Speaker 3: candidate to finish like third or fourth in this on
27:58
Speaker 3: this team in home runs, and we know the plate
28:01
Speaker 3: discipline is there. Yeah, if there's like a somewhat under
28:05
Speaker 3: the radar hitter who could be crucial to this team's
28:09
Speaker 3: chances of success, I think it's Justin Henry in the life.
28:12
Speaker 2: Couldn't agree more.
28:13
Speaker 1: And just to rehash like that breakout postseason, which, of course, yeah,
28:17
Speaker 1: it's a small sample size.
28:18
Speaker 2: You know what else it is, it's.
28:19
Speaker 1: Like a high volatiley you know, high vol volatility situation.
28:26
Speaker 2: I messed that up.
28:26
Speaker 1: That's okay, Like high high stakes, high stakes sample sizes there.
28:31
Speaker 1: He was a six to twenty five hitter in the
28:33
Speaker 1: postseason last year, and the reason he dipped was because
28:37
Speaker 1: in his last game he went one for two, So
28:39
Speaker 1: five hundred batting average for a game, dipsy a little bit.
28:41
Speaker 1: That's how good he was. And it it like opened
28:45
Speaker 1: some eyes. There were a couple of guys that opened
28:47
Speaker 1: some eyes in that postseason run, and he was definitely
28:51
Speaker 1: one of them.
28:51
Speaker 2: And I I.
28:55
Speaker 1: Think about guys in the way of like how do
28:59
Speaker 1: like I can't not have this guy, like if I
29:01
Speaker 1: was on the coaching staff, like bang the table, Like
29:04
Speaker 1: I'm getting to bang the table status with Justin Henry
29:07
Speaker 1: Maloy in terms of being on this roster and getting
29:09
Speaker 1: as many opportunities as possible, whether that's left field, whether
29:12
Speaker 1: that's first base, whether that's you know, I'm sure he'll
29:15
Speaker 1: be in the rotation of DHS as well. Like I
29:17
Speaker 1: am getting him on the field, and I am utilizing
29:21
Speaker 1: his bat because it's one of them. It's one of
29:23
Speaker 1: the things I feel the best about in terms of
29:26
Speaker 1: I say, batslash, play, it approach like one of the
29:28
Speaker 1: teams I feel really good about going into the season.
29:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt you started going down the list. You know,
29:37
Speaker 3: a lot of guys broke out in the Tiger's bullpen
29:39
Speaker 3: last year, so it can be a little bit redundant.
29:42
Speaker 3: But I got a question in my mailbag on the
29:44
Speaker 3: athletic who's going to lead the Tigers in saves? And
29:48
Speaker 3: right now I'm not sure it's going to be Jason Foley. Again.
29:51
Speaker 3: Will Vest is someone we just don't talk about a lot.
29:55
Speaker 3: Bowbriskie I love can reach a higher ceiling. I think
29:59
Speaker 3: Will Vest might have the inside track to getting early
30:02
Speaker 3: ninth inning reps. I wonder if he's going to have
30:05
Speaker 3: a breakout year a little bit, just in terms of
30:07
Speaker 3: the level we appreciate him. Flamethrowing fastball, has the ability
30:12
Speaker 3: to miss bats, gets out right eas, gets out left eas.
30:16
Speaker 3: I think I think Will Vest is going to become
30:18
Speaker 3: a bigger deal this season.
30:21
Speaker 1: Will Vest sometimes it's hard, sometimes it's hard to remember.
30:26
Speaker 1: Just kind of like the I want to say roller coaster,
30:29
Speaker 1: but like there were some times where he felt pretty
30:32
Speaker 1: good and it was like what happened to Will Vest
30:33
Speaker 1: That's the life of a relief pitcher having the fully
30:35
Speaker 1: last year. So I'm not overreacting, but I did find
30:38
Speaker 1: myself kind of going back to that a little bit,
30:40
Speaker 1: you know. And there's a guy who made his debut
30:43
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one. It doesn't feel like he's been
30:47
Speaker 1: in the bigs that long, but like he's got some
30:50
Speaker 1: he's got some seasons on him, and that's what you
30:52
Speaker 1: want out of out of a back end guy, I think,
30:55
Speaker 1: and a person who was highly crucial last year. You
30:59
Speaker 1: felt very up and giving him the ball late in
31:01
Speaker 1: the game last season in big games. So I'll go
31:07
Speaker 1: with Parker Meadows. So like talk about how key Parker
31:11
Speaker 1: Meadows is, Like if he's healthy, dude, and that's at
31:14
Speaker 1: this point we got to say that with a huge
31:16
Speaker 1: capital eye. But if he's healthy. In the last forty
31:20
Speaker 1: seven games last year, Cody the dude was hitting two
31:23
Speaker 1: ninety six. He had a five hundred slug he six
31:27
Speaker 1: home runs, five triples, ten doubles. He had a one
31:31
Speaker 1: point seventy nine wins. Probability added in the last forty
31:35
Speaker 1: seven games.
31:36
Speaker 2: Forty seven games, he was killing it.
31:38
Speaker 1: And that's not even to mention the highlight defense and
31:43
Speaker 1: and what he could be on the base pass from
31:45
Speaker 1: a stolen the base perspective, if if he zeroed in
31:49
Speaker 1: on that, So, like, damn, this nerve that like won't
31:55
Speaker 1: wake up because like you gonna argue he might be
31:59
Speaker 1: the team's most valuable in terms of like the real
32:02
Speaker 1: sense of the word. You can argue his most valuable
32:04
Speaker 1: player on the team. But so if he's healthy, he
32:06
Speaker 1: could break out in a huge way.
32:09
Speaker 3: If if Yeah, I don't know, I've said before, like
32:14
Speaker 3: Parker set such a high bar for himself with what
32:17
Speaker 3: he did in the second half that it's almost like
32:20
Speaker 3: it's just going to be so hard for him to
32:22
Speaker 3: repeat that. I'm not sure it's realistic. I think the
32:25
Speaker 3: Parker meadows, we're going to get us somewhere in between
32:28
Speaker 3: first half Parker and second half Parker. And you want
32:31
Speaker 3: him to stay healthy and play elite defense. And but
32:35
Speaker 3: the idea that Parker is a four or five war player,
32:37
Speaker 3: that's just that's just a lot of expectations for a
32:41
Speaker 3: guy who has always been a little bit up and down.
32:45
Speaker 3: With the bat. So I love Parker. He is incredibly
32:48
Speaker 3: valuable this like, I don't know. I still have a
32:52
Speaker 3: hard time like latching onto that highest version of his ceiling.
32:57
Speaker 3: So when I'm thinking breakout candidates, I'm also a most
33:00
Speaker 3: looking at the farm. Who's that guy who's gonna pop
33:02
Speaker 3: this year? There are a few of them last year,
33:04
Speaker 3: Brent Herder, Jaden Hamm. I think Troy Melton is a
33:10
Speaker 3: name I've had circled, a name I know the Tigers
33:12
Speaker 3: really like. You Just look at his surface numbers not
33:16
Speaker 3: that great last year, but the stuff is pretty real.
33:21
Speaker 3: Fastball that has a ton of ride, that can hit
33:24
Speaker 3: the upper nineties, change up that misses a ton of bats.
33:27
Speaker 3: I said surface numbers. He had a five five point
33:30
Speaker 3: one zero er in eerie. But he's capable of getting
33:34
Speaker 3: a lot of strikeouts. He punched one hundred nineteen guys
33:37
Speaker 3: in one hundred and two thirds innings. He has a
33:40
Speaker 3: very diverse arsenal slider, he's added a cutter. Seems like
33:43
Speaker 3: one of those guys who's a little bit of fine
33:45
Speaker 3: tuning away from really emerging. In terms of the list
33:51
Speaker 3: of pitchers who could be knocking on the door at
33:53
Speaker 3: the big leagues. I think he's a pick to click
33:55
Speaker 3: for me. And Tyler Owens a guy who's really impressed
33:58
Speaker 3: in big league camp and look like a dude who
34:01
Speaker 3: can be pitching in Detroit this year out of the bullpen.
34:05
Speaker 3: Those are two guys that are hard to overlook.
34:10
Speaker 1: I want to submit to guys for honorable mention on
34:13
Speaker 1: this breakout because I think they both kind of have
34:16
Speaker 1: their own flavor of the definition of being a breakout player.
34:19
Speaker 1: Number one is cold Keith. Cold Keith, Dad, he had
34:25
Speaker 1: like a rookie year from hell for like the first
34:28
Speaker 1: like what sixty.
34:29
Speaker 2: Games, like it was.
34:31
Speaker 1: It was not great. It was not great, especially coming
34:34
Speaker 1: off the contract. You know, you know, everybody like questioning
34:37
Speaker 1: his defense, but you could believe in the bat, but
34:39
Speaker 1: the bat wasn't batting, you know, Like, it could not
34:42
Speaker 1: have been much worse professionally for cold Keith to start out. However,
34:47
Speaker 1: May twentieth is basically when his batting average got above
34:53
Speaker 1: two hundred, like for good basically, and since then he
34:57
Speaker 1: was a too eighty hitter with thirteen home runs sprinkled
35:02
Speaker 1: in four steals by the way, and four triples and
35:07
Speaker 1: really look the part of a middle of the order
35:09
Speaker 1: bet and if he was still a second baseman, I
35:14
Speaker 1: would be like going off signals for everybody to start
35:20
Speaker 1: talking about him as one of the best young position
35:23
Speaker 1: players in the game. It changes a little bit when
35:26
Speaker 1: you go to first base, because now your cases of
35:30
Speaker 1: silver Slugger, your case of like All Star Team, like
35:33
Speaker 1: those kind of things like decrease obviously, so I think
35:39
Speaker 1: he's still eligible for that, but he's just not going
35:42
Speaker 1: to have like the glaring numbers when when it's one
35:45
Speaker 1: B next to his name, so that so that would
35:48
Speaker 1: be one and the second one is kind of cheating.
35:53
Speaker 1: But I still feel like I still feel strong about this,
35:56
Speaker 1: like there's still so much in the tank for Riley
35:59
Speaker 1: Green in my opinion. And yes, he was an All
36:01
Speaker 1: Star last year. Yes he is like getting the rounds
36:04
Speaker 1: of like you know, LB Network, you know, interviewing him
36:07
Speaker 1: underneath the really state of the art indoor field that's
36:10
Speaker 1: covered code.
36:11
Speaker 2: I don't know if you knows.
36:12
Speaker 1: And yet he is not included on these lists we
36:17
Speaker 1: talked about before, like best Hitters under twenty five and
36:20
Speaker 1: and in MLB the show ratings which are obviously meaningless,
36:24
Speaker 1: but carry Carpenter was one was one.
36:28
Speaker 3: Up with that, who's like Yley Green was a bona
36:31
Speaker 3: fide four win player last year. He's one of the
36:33
Speaker 3: best young players in baseball. No offense to Carry Carpenter,
36:37
Speaker 3: but right Rightley Green should have a.
36:39
Speaker 2: Diving He is a better player.
36:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's an elite defender like Carry Carpenter was
36:45
Speaker 1: in eighty three. So that just got me thinking, like,
36:48
Speaker 1: I don't like, maybe he's got a breakout over the
36:50
Speaker 1: breakout like the breakout squared. Basically, I don't know, but
36:54
Speaker 1: like I just I just feel like he's still not
36:56
Speaker 1: getting talked about enough. And I think he's going to
36:59
Speaker 1: have a mont year and he's going to elevate himself
37:02
Speaker 1: into the conversation where it's like every single list of
37:06
Speaker 1: the best young position players has Riley Green on it.
37:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm with you. I think it's not
37:13
Speaker 3: a breakout to Tigers fans, but he is a great
37:15
Speaker 3: league wide candidate to break out on the national stage,
37:19
Speaker 3: Cold Keith, It's gonna be there's gonna be a lot
37:21
Speaker 3: of focus on his power this year. I'm not that
37:23
Speaker 3: worried about it, because what do we hear all the
37:26
Speaker 3: time like power comes last. You want guys who know
37:28
Speaker 3: how to hit first cold. Keith can hit. He has
37:32
Speaker 3: the hit tool. It is there, and he's already displayed
37:35
Speaker 3: it at the big league level. I'm a little like
37:37
Speaker 3: he has a tendency to get stuck in his legs
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Speaker 3: and he has a tendency to kind of close himself off.
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Speaker 3: We need to see the exit v loves tick up
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Speaker 3: a little bit for a guy of his stature. He
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Speaker 3: ranked way too low in average exit velocity last season.
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Speaker 3: But these are things I think he's going to figure
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Speaker 3: out in time, even this year. I wouldn't be shocked
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Speaker 3: if the home run total, maybe he isn't what you want,
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Speaker 3: but if he hits for a high average, I think
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Speaker 3: there's a guy whose homer total is going to continue
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Speaker 3: to grow year by year. So yeah, he can be
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Speaker 3: a legit middle of the order stick.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll see if the you know, one of
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Speaker 1: the benefits maybe a plan at first base, Maybe the
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Speaker 1: legs are a little fresher, you know, throughout the year.
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Speaker 1: Who knows, uh, that'll be like one of the under
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Speaker 1: the current things that I'll be watching.
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Speaker 2: All Right, Well, I I feel good about that list. Cody.
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Speaker 2: I like every single name that we mentioned. I feel
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Speaker 2: like you know what. I could see it. I could
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Speaker 2: really see it. So we'll come up with more.
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Speaker 1: We'll have bull predictions, We'll have you know, all this
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Speaker 1: stuff as we get closer to opening day, which is
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Speaker 1: not that far away, and as the Tigers wind down
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Speaker 1: camp and get ready to face the Dodgers. We didn't
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