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Bears vs Vikings Recap: Wrap It Up with Jacob Infante! · 2nd City Gridiron

0:00
[SPEAKER_01]: What a weird, weird season it's been for the Chicago Bears, but they just keep finding a way to stack up wins.
0:10
[SPEAKER_01]: The Chicago Bears are 7 and 3, which is crazy to say.
0:15
[SPEAKER_01]: After defeating the Minnesota Vikings 19 to 17 coming down with the last second field goal from Cairo Santos
0:28
[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't saying the bears are now winners of six of their last seven games.
0:35
[SPEAKER_01]: And as I do that, I realize I'm a child.
0:41
[SPEAKER_01]: This is pretty sweet, guys.
0:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we know they're seven of their last eight.
0:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Seven of their last eight.
0:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry, ESPN hasn't updated.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm an idiot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The bears of one three in a row now, they've won seven of their last eight games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're seven in three.
1:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And this marks one, two, three, four, five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One possession games that the bears have won this year.
1:10
[SPEAKER_01]: They're five and one in one possession games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a lot to talk about from this game.
1:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It was,
1:19
[SPEAKER_01]: wasn't pretty.
1:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely wasn't pretty, but I mean, when you're in the playoff race, I really don't care.
1:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if it's the prettiest win in the world.
1:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if it's the ugliest win in the world.
1:32
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're sitting at seven and three, that's a favorable situation going forward for the rest of the year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You have a difficult rest of the schedule, but now you can look at, all right, Steelers Browns, if you win those two games, that's nine, right out of the gate, even if you lose every single game, the rest of the year, you're above 500 if you win those two games.
1:55
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you look at it from there, the Packers, you play the Packers twice,
2:03
[SPEAKER_01]: You play the Detroit Lions one more time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
2:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the Packers have shown, I mean, they're obviously a good team, but they're not, they're not invincible.
2:18
[SPEAKER_01]: They're definitely not invincible.
2:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, oh, hold on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm gonna sneeze.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Guys bear with me here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm done almost sneezing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's take a look at some comments here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Going through, we are live on the second city Gridiron YouTube page and the Facebook page as well is my Twitter ex account at Jacob and Fonta 24.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's take a look at some of these comments here in the live stream.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if any in case you're joining late, if you're in the live stream and you can't listen, the whole thing, you could listen to it back on YouTube on the second city Gridiron page, anywhere you get your podcast as well.
3:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk first let's dive right into Evan Lepo on x says leave Cairo and high tower miniapolis I mean yeah Cairo you Cairo miss that one field goal but all things considered he was he went four for five and then he hit the last second field goal.
3:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not mad with how Cairo performance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He shouldn't made that one field goal but.
3:27
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all right.
3:28
[SPEAKER_01]: That's all right.
3:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Richard Heitower, the special teams, especially the coverage need is it's an issue at this point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that, you know, Tory Taylor, he's showing some encouraging flashes, he's a little too inconsistent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's the one coach.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't necessarily feel great about.
3:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel good about Dennis Allen and some people tend to hate on him because, you know, some of the games where they've a lot of bunch of points like the lines game with the bangles game, but he's really not working with a lot in the secondary and he's making it work.
4:03
[SPEAKER_01]: but especially the corner back room.
4:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm Kudos to Nation Wright, picking up his fourth interception of the season.
4:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And Kevin Byrd also had his fifth interception of the season two picks.
4:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Could have been three, Tyrex Stevenson had one, but Brisker ran right into them.
4:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a pretty, I don't know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to go through and nitpick.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's plenty of stuff to criticize when we'll be doing criticizing in the show.
4:37
[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, the bears won.
4:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's keep the vibes up.
4:42
[SPEAKER_01]: So, M-I-Z comes 23 on Twitter and says, was glad to see Caleb look a bit upset after the game.
4:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I still trust Ben Johnson and Caleb to get it figured out.
4:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And that is true.
4:54
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I noticed that as well, where, you know, as both sides were, you know, coming out of the field for post game handshakes and everything after the field goal, Caleb didn't look happy.
5:02
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't look satisfied.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I can, you know, I can assume that it's probably because he wasn't satisfied with how the offense performed, and yet they're still winning games.
5:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that there's very clear
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[SPEAKER_01]: room for improvement with the soft heads.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of it is just catch the ball, catch the ball, as Rob mentions here in the Twitter chat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So many drop passes and we had a couple of injuries from our corners still pulled it off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So many drop passes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a problem last week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a problem this week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Last week, it's like, okay, it's snowy, soldier field, that's fine.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If the drop passes are an issue inside and a dome, that's concerning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But
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[SPEAKER_01]: The run game looks strong, Caleb had some encouraging, I think the intermediate throws look really good with Caleb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's getting better and he looked better today as far as, you know, the short dump off, you know, the flat screen stuff that have you get the snap and then immediately just chuck it out his accuracy looked a little bit better than that the deep ball deep balls of problem, at least it was today so that's something that's going to need to improve going forward, but they did just enough right on offense to pull away with the win.
6:21
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... just enough on defense early in the game to keep the team in uh... the yeah that's that the at the end of the day wins a win that that's all you can you know that's all you can ask for especially this juncture the season so
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[SPEAKER_01]: Graham Small says, Comet been so much meaner this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I fucking love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I honestly agree.
6:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're seeing a definitely an aggressive edge in Colcomat.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's
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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of exciting to see because they're they're using them as a block or a lot more they've you know used to measure like an inline tight end to good amount they've used them as a fullback you know like an offset sort of edge back as well sometimes but uh these blocking with a nasty demeanor and there are a couple catches he had this game against the Vikings where
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, he was able to just battle through and just keep trucking dudes and run an over them battling to pick up extra yardage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was, you know, I was impressed with what I saw for men.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He led with five catches today at 45 yards as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So definitely, you know, it's very encouraging stuff coming from him, especially when you have constant lovelins in the situation, you know, have him in the mix, he's getting more snaps than, you know, he did earlier in the year,
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[SPEAKER_01]: a veteran titan can be, you know, he has the right to be upset if he wants to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But the fact that he's being a professional and not only embracing his role but excelling and trying really hard in that role, I think it says a lot about him.
8:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's, he deserves a lot of credit
8:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty happy with how that's all turning out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My father Stephen Fonte, there's no how to win now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been since the early 2000s since that energy existed in Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll say that the last like two years or so, there have been a lot of really close games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And under Maddie, refluse, they were, the bears were competitive in a lot of games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the more often than not, the point differential wasn't very high,
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[SPEAKER_01]: the bears just couldn't get it done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you're starting to see a little bit of the same, it's growth.
8:49
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not, oh, they're beating every team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're scoring 40 points and limiting them to 10.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, you know, it's not the case, but they're remaining competitive, but the fact of the matter is they're converting.
9:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And look, I'm going to say, I don't think this was Ben Johnson's
9:13
[SPEAKER_01]: where you could argue he should have gone forward on fourth down instead of settling for the field goal.
9:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously it worked out in the end, but especially that lathe, the field goal that Cairo missed, which I mean, it's easy to say on the one he missed, but there's another one that he made that was from fourth and three out.
9:31
[SPEAKER_01]: The bears were in favorable field position.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to see them go for it, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: At the same time, I think that they're winning these games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It speaks to the culture.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It speaks to the mentality that this team has where they're never out in any game.
9:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they set on the broadcast on Fox that Caleb Williams leads the league in game winning drives this year.
10:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's another one.
10:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, granted, it was run the ball a couple times after a great dev and dover and a kick return.
10:09
[SPEAKER_01]: That was huge, by the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think enough people are going to be talking about that coming away from it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause dover and a, you know, he's been okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been okay this year, but he came through when it mattered most.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Got them in a great situation to, you know, to be competitive and then they picked up just enough yards that they needed to win the game, obviously.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, not going to complain about that for sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Logan Dunn mentions as well, settling for the plant late was questionable as well, Ben can improve, but going to see the team come together and pull through.
10:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's a lot that can be said about the bear special teams and not a lot of it is positive.
10:53
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, whether that comes down to coaching, which I, I tend to believe it does come down to coaching, especially for special teams where something like that, there's a little bit more about the exes and owes than the Jimmy's and Joe's, but.
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[SPEAKER_01]: one way or another.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, it all worked out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This team has an undying spirit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They literally, they're never going to roll over where it seemed like last year, two years ago, even 2022.
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[SPEAKER_01]: where the bears just felt like they'd given up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they brought out not to make it a quarterback thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They brought out just in fields in the loop, get see offense, or even last year when Caleb Williams came out in the Shane Waldron offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and it's like, all right, I've realist, I don't believe that we're going to win this game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's generally the mentality that was going through my head.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, but that's changed.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's changed this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even in this one, where I was like, oh my god, they blew the lead, you know, this sucks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even this year, I was like, all right, let's let's see how they find their way out of this one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because these last couple of games, they've been able to just barely scratch away with the win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And like I keep saying, when you're in a playoff race, when you're firmly in that sort of situation, you need to buy in, you need to buy in, and you need to win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The bears have done that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, absolutely huge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.
12:33
[SPEAKER_01]: And so we have a couple.
12:34
[SPEAKER_01]: There's another question not related to football.
12:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Tell us your portillos order you a big beef guy cheese burger dog shake chat needs to know.
12:45
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so I want to bring that up as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I talk a little bit about portillos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely more the dogs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the way to go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: My case specifically, I like to order side of onion rings.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Over the fries, more so I'll get cheese fries sometimes, but I usually go with the onion rings just because I feel like that's more consistent.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, look, if you're going to portillos, you're not eating healthy, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're accepting, all right, this is gonna be a cheat meal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going there for,
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[SPEAKER_01]: gourmet, whatever the hell, health food.
13:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I spaced out for a second because my screen door is open and my window is open.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I needed to make sure my cat didn't get out.
13:43
[SPEAKER_01]: The screen's there, the screen's there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know why I checked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's nuts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah,
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[SPEAKER_01]: and then a side of usually onion rings with portillos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I say, that's probably the way to go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't been to Johnny's, though, I'll admit, Gramswell mentioned that live in the chat.
14:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, anyway, all right, so you came for bear discussions now, we're talking about portillos.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have any other portillos questions in your watch in life here in the chat, feel free to send them my way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, Logan Dunn says here in the chat, get to see Bird and get involved more, get more involved than OZ this week about time, M-I-Z, Z-O-U.
14:34
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I definitely agree that Luther Bird and should be and he was, today, taking up more of those snaps that Elamina's Achius had and has had the last couple here, the last couple of weeks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Luther had three catches for 27 yards five targets and Zacchaeus he was out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Zacchaeus was out there a little bit, but he didn't get targeted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that that shows a little bit more of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: the coaching staff's ability to be flexible, their ability to adapt and their ability to hold people accountable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think is the most impressive thing to take away from this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, I say impressive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, impressive by bear standards where you're seeing these coaches, over the, you know, with whether it's naggy,
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[SPEAKER_01]: In consistency, as far as how they hold guys accountable and how they adjust players' snap counts over the course of a season, if a player's playing well, giving them more playing time, if the player's not playing well, then taking them out of the line up and cutting down their snaps.
15:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Ben Johnson's shown that he can do that, that he's flexible and he rewards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he rewards success.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you don't succeed, then naturally you're going to see your you're going to see your reps cut down.
16:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So look, three catches for 27 yards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not an unbelievable game by any means.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's not going to, that's not going to, that's sort of
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's improvement.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he deserves a more steady role in this offense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So keep in mind, there have only been five games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there have been five games this year now where Luther has had multiple receptions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has had one catch in four games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One catch each in four games, I should say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the last two weeks he's been targeted three times against the giant's target.
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[SPEAKER_01]: even if he's not putting up like unbelievable receiving numbers, he's still been very efficient.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been much more efficient than Zacchaeus out of the slot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that it's very encouraging to see him stepping into a bigger role.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Another question from Steven Fonte, my father, hello.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What does Ben Johnson need to do better to make the Chicago Bears a Super Bowl contender?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if they're a true Super Bowl contender with this roster, I think there's still some upgrades that need to be had, especially at left tackle, especially at edge rusher, but I'd say part of it is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: work with Caleb to find a way to get the deep ball working.
17:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's one thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The intermediate game in the Bears passing attack is really good right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's better than it's been in years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably since Cutler, if I hazard it, if I hazard a guess, better than Trimisky in like that 10 to that 11 to 19 yard pass range,
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[SPEAKER_01]: better than rookie here Caleb.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the improvement there is huge because that ability to consistently move the sticks is helping the bears, obviously score points and helping them win time of possession, move the ball down the field, wind the clock down, but the deep strike ability just hasn't been there this year.
18:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that you need to find a way to work with Caleb Williams
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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the disconnect here?
18:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a, like, is it a touch thing?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it a chemistry thing?
18:39
[SPEAKER_01]: Is it a footwork thing?
18:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that sometimes Caleb's footwork can get a little spotty on, uh, you know, on screens on flats on, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: bubble screens, you know, I already mentioned screens.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just talking in circles now, but his footwork can be a little erratic.
19:00
[SPEAKER_01]: So naturally, the accuracy is erratic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's as much of that from a deep ball perspective.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'd say finding a way to unlock the beatball, I think that's what would really put the bears into a Super Bowl contender category.
19:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, I don't think they're there yet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If they were, they'd be winning these games by a lot more than
19:21
[SPEAKER_01]: two points, four points, five points, but Windsor winds 100%.
19:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So another question, Logan Dunn, are you of the same belief that Caleb needs to tone down the fastball to add more accuracy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good, I mean, on short passes, sure, on short passes, sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think
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[SPEAKER_01]: In, like across the middle of the field, especially, I think the fastball really works and their instances on, you know, curl routes on the seam on, you know, out routes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All across the board where Caleb strong arm allows him to hit it and to tight windows and he's shown that he can do it.
20:05
[SPEAKER_01]: He's shown that he can hit his targets well from that range.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think sometimes he's got maybe a little too much mustard behind those shorter passes.
20:16
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, again, part of that just comes down to the footwork.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the real issue with him.
20:23
[SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that he's still moving the ball down the field, the fact that he's still making plays and the bears offense has been, you know, that they were great today.
20:31
[SPEAKER_01]: There weren't even very good, but the fact that they're putting themselves in winnable positions shows that there's something to work with there.
20:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so I think that at least down the field, the fastball isn't as applicable because those are, you know, more lobs than anything.
20:53
[SPEAKER_01]: But, I mean, I say keep the fastballs coming.
20:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that that's one of the things that Caleb does really well and that separates him from a lot of the field is just, you know, how strong his arm is, how elastic his arm is and his ability to hit those, you know, tight window throws.
21:11
[SPEAKER_01]: But, yeah, I mean, again, the short game, maybe tone it down a little bit and then, you know, the passing, the deep bone needs a lot of work.
21:19
[SPEAKER_01]: But,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Regardless, I keep saying a wins a win.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still very exciting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Andrew Zangry, what's up?
21:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Twitter saying, Jacob, I am going to need a Zamx prescription to continue watching this team in all seriousness though.
21:36
[SPEAKER_01]: It's refreshing to see the bears pull out games like this one in the past, we'd 100% lose.
21:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Lots of room to improve, but seven and three bear the fuck down.
21:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Well said, I mean, I think that it's it's always a good feeling when the bears win a game like this.
21:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't care.
21:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mean, I kind of do care.
22:00
[SPEAKER_01]: the way it how they win these games.
22:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And it makes for a lot more attentive watching when I'm, you know, glued to the TV screen at every single play in the fourth quarter matters and counts towards whether it's going to be a winner loss.
22:16
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I don't know, it's, it's funny, honestly, how insane watching this team is.
22:23
[SPEAKER_01]: But.
22:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you said, it's in years past, these are all games, the bears would lose like we're talking this game, the bears would have lost they would have lost against the bangles for sure they would have lost against the giants, they wouldn't have come back in that game and.
22:40
[SPEAKER_01]: The Raiders and commanders, I feel pretty confident with an ebra flues team, they would have lost that to not even just factoring in the quality of coaching.
22:56
[SPEAKER_01]: not even just the quality of coaching, but also I think the culture and the mentality of this team is a lot different from how it was under ebra flows.
23:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And the competitiveness that these guys show stands out on tape every single week.
23:11
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, you can even see that, too, where you have guys you know, swift and monoggy battling for every single yard they can get.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of the receivers
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[SPEAKER_01]: Luther, Comet, Colston, Lovelin, just running over guys to keep turning the legs, trying to pick up every single last yard they can get.
23:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the offensive live and joining in to push them from behind to pick up extra yards, keep the play alive.
23:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, you can tell it's not just a coaching thing, it's not just a personnel thing, it's also a culture and a mentality thing.
23:46
[SPEAKER_01]: Alice Beerhall shout out to those guys I know who's commenting right now, hell of a guy, good guy.
23:55
[SPEAKER_01]: What role do you see CJ Gardner Johnson and when Kyler and Jayliner back?
24:00
[SPEAKER_01]: What I would like to see is maybe the bears run a little bit more big dime.
24:06
[SPEAKER_01]: If they can run a big dime formation, that would be
24:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me so you're essentially you take one of the linebackers out, you're in you run the nickel formation with the three corner backs and then you put in an extra safety like three safety so you could do.
24:22
[SPEAKER_01]: In a in a dime obviously you could go four corners that a big dime it's three corners three safeties.
24:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd like to see CJ Gardner Johnson used in that kind of regard.
24:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Get him in the box, honestly, as a hybrid linebacker of hybrid safety, hybrid slot guy, because he's too, he's too physical of a player to just have sitting on the sidelines or limit only to special teams.
24:50
[SPEAKER_01]: He's somebody who can, you know, deliver the head, he can blitz the
25:01
[SPEAKER_01]: He has, he's much better awareness in coverage than Noah Sewell does, but I think he has like a similar issue and that his agility is just it's pretty average.
25:11
[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe there are going to be some instances where you want to take TJ Edwards out and coverage, you put in CJ instead.
25:17
[SPEAKER_01]: And you run Kyler Gordon, Jalen Johnson, Tyreek Stevenson.
25:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Kevin Bayer, J. Kwon-Brisker, CJ Gardner, Johnson, as the, you know, in that big dime package.
25:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know, you know, CJ, he's a corner back, he's a corner back, but over the course of his career, he's, you know, played both corner and safety, he's played everywhere, literally.
25:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so I think maybe treating him a little bit more in that kind of safety, big dime sort of hybrid role, I think would probably be the best bet to get him on the field.
25:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh.
25:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And I trust this team to figure it out.
25:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Andrew Zanger's well, saying, Jacob, do you think the bears have put on enough tape this here for my doctor to prescribe me a Zanx prescription?
26:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.
26:07
[SPEAKER_01]: Shit, I mean, I think they could, they should be given all of us free Zannies, honestly.
26:12
[SPEAKER_01]: So for what the bears have put us through this year, having to deal with that, I don't know, let's get everyone high.
26:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a proponent of that.
26:28
[SPEAKER_01]: Hallace Bierhol says again.
26:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Jacob, do you think JJ McCarthy was thinking about us tackling him, probably?
26:37
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll say, I never got to play against JJ McCarthy.
26:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So he went to Nazareth in the Chicago area for those of you and other markets who are listening and don't know the area.
26:51
[SPEAKER_01]: Nazareth is a big rival of Benedict Academy.
26:55
[SPEAKER_01]: That's where I went.
26:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Go Red Wings.
26:57
[SPEAKER_01]: And they played football every year.
27:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Naz kicks the shit out of us every time.
27:03
[SPEAKER_01]: They did this year too.
27:06
[SPEAKER_01]: But, yeah, JJ, his freshman here, he played up with the,
27:12
[SPEAKER_01]: the sophomores I believe and then from sophomore he played with varsity.
27:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I think when he was a sophomore I was a senior.
27:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't play football all four years and you know by the time that he had come in.
27:40
[SPEAKER_01]: title you want to call it a student assistant coach thing whatever the hell like I bring down special teams tape with the special teams coach and I'd be the guy taking film for the for the you know the coach is film whatever.
27:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I never got to play against JJ McCarthy, but one of these guys on the house beer hall did and he sat JJ McCarthy, so I think that that's got to feel pretty good that.
28:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I want to dox your full name, I don't know if you want that or not, but to know that juice of the Halle's Beer Hall podcast has sacked nine, I think that's something to be proud of for sure, and my dad comes in and says, you were just too good of a player, it just wasn't fair for you to play against JJ, I mean, I don't argue with that, I think
28:35
[SPEAKER_01]: He would have been terrified by my illustrious magnetism and my intimidating figure.
28:42
[SPEAKER_01]: Nowadays, I have an intimidating figure, but it's because of obesity.
28:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm not fat.
28:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I've lost like 20 pounds, dude, I'm loving life.
28:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I make these jokes.
28:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for no docs.
28:59
[SPEAKER_01]: My name is Matthew Kickel.
29:01
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so this name is not Matthew Kickel, but shout out Matthew Kickel shout to him as well.
29:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, that probably made little to no sense for a majority of you, I apologize, but we just kind of went through a rabbit hole there talking about Chicago High School Football and JJ's ties to the Chicago area.
29:23
[SPEAKER_01]: But on Sunday,
29:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb Williams was the one to outperform JJ McCarthy.
29:30
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd argue, at least, they both went 16 for 32 Caleb through for 193 yards, no touchdowns, no picks.
29:41
[SPEAKER_01]: Also had four carries, 26 yards rushing.
29:46
[SPEAKER_01]: JJ had a touchdown, but he also had two picks.
29:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so I mean, all things considered like just off of the stat line, I'd say, you know, Caleb out perform JJ, but at the same time, uh, I think it showed on tape, too.
29:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that, you know, there were just a handful of stickers across the middle of the field of the McCarthy through, uh, I'm, I'm still a believer that, you know, he can turn things around.
30:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's too early to call it call it off on McCarthy, uh,
30:16
[SPEAKER_01]: especially a guy who's, you know, like built mentally in that way, but I can't sit here and say that he's ready, I guess.
30:26
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see, David wheel in the chat saying Stevenson hurt now.
30:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
30:32
[SPEAKER_01]: So Tyreke Stevenson, you made a brief return in the fourth quarter in this game against the Vikings.
30:40
[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't out there for the entirety of that last drive, but
30:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say it was like a hamstring or something, I don't have it in front of me.
30:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I know he played a couple snaps down the stretch in the fourth quarter after he got hurt, but he wasn't there in a full-time role.
30:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't anticipate that's going to be anything too serious because they did bring it back into the game for a little bit.
31:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd say that's probably, you know, he'll just be questionable.
31:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm no doctor.
31:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I wouldn't consider myself a medical expert by any means.
31:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd probably know more about getting diseases than curing them, but I do think that I don't think it should be anything too serious with Stevenson.
31:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Brian Rattick in the chat, I hope I pronounced that right.
31:33
[SPEAKER_01]: I apologize if I didn't.
31:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Jacob, where was Austin Booker today?
31:37
[SPEAKER_01]: What can we do about our past rush?
31:39
[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.
31:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So JJ McCarthy was not sack once all game.
31:44
[SPEAKER_01]: And the past rush was an issue.
31:46
[SPEAKER_01]: There wasn't much in the way of pressure.
31:47
[SPEAKER_01]: Five quarterback hits.
31:50
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Grady Jarrett, at least on first glance, I think Grady Jarrett had his best game
31:59
[SPEAKER_01]: in this game.
31:59
[SPEAKER_01]: They were a good handful of instances where I saw them pushing the pocket, generating, excuse me, pressure up the middle, which was encouraging because he's, you know, mist time due to injury and even when he's played, he's been kind of invisible.
32:13
[SPEAKER_01]: So to see him pop off on the screen today against the Vikings was very encouraging.
32:18
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think, I mean, look, the trade deadlines passed.
32:22
[SPEAKER_01]: The bears didn't make any major moves.
32:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Joe Triange, Treyon, Shoyanka, I mean, that's, you know, it's a death ad.
32:30
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not necessarily transforming that defense of line, but you weren't expecting him to because that's a seventh and sixth round pick swap that you're, you know, pulling off to get them.
32:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, the bears know what they're getting themselves into in this situation and they probably knew what to expect.
32:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that going forward, maintaining the past rush
32:54
[SPEAKER_01]: you keep being creative with the blitz.
32:58
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's going to be helpful once, Kyler Gordon comes back.
33:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's going to be helpful when Jekwan Brisker continues to heal up from his back injury.
33:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I know he played today, but once he's back at full strength and he's not on the injury report anymore, I think you can unleash him having me a little bit more physical there as well.
33:20
[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, Kyler, Burskur, and CJ Gardner, Johnson.
33:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I think those guys are gonna be key to get the Blitz game going.
33:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Because the defensive line, I hate to say that this raid, I don't trust them to win with just a format rush on a consistent basis.
33:37
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they've shown that this year, even before Dio got hurt,
33:42
[SPEAKER_01]: It was something they're struggling to get home to the quarterback on just four guys, but the ability to, you know, dial up the pressure with scheme.
33:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I think is something that Dennis Allen usually does pretty well.
33:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's he's overcome to the best of his abilities.
33:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Not so much today again the game against the Vikings, but.
34:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that especially, you know, in days where maybe Austin Booker doesn't show up, where Montez Svet doesn't have any sacks.
34:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he seemed all right today, like not a world leader, anything.
34:14
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't look like a, you know, a top tier edge russia, like he's getting paid necessarily, but he has been pretty dang good in recent weeks, so I will give him that.
34:24
[SPEAKER_01]: In any case, I think that's that's your answer to what to do about the past rush.
34:28
[SPEAKER_01]: There's only so much you can do right now.
34:31
[SPEAKER_01]: There's nobody you can add off the street who's going to play in a probal level, so your best hope in my opinion is just dial up the blitz.
34:41
[SPEAKER_01]: And once you have your corner backs back, once you have jail and back, once you have
34:48
[SPEAKER_01]: having those corners in a position to make plays on the ball to make the right read and to take advantage of any potential like Aaron quick throws that might come as a result of a blitz.
35:02
[SPEAKER_01]: But even then though Nation Wright has shown that he you know he has four interceptions this year like he's making plays on the ball he's been inconsistent and coverage don't get me wrong.
35:12
[SPEAKER_01]: I
35:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I texted someone over the course of the game that he gets beat four out of five times he gets targeted, but it feels like, but that one time that he doesn't get beat, it's an interception.
35:28
[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, it's boomer bust.
35:29
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a boomer bust play, but he has the ability to make plays in key circumstances.
35:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Case in point, the interception he had today.
35:38
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm very happy for
35:41
[SPEAKER_01]: his coach, you know, from last chance you fame recently passed away.
35:47
[SPEAKER_01]: And I know they had a really strong relationship.
35:51
[SPEAKER_01]: That was just a couple of days ago.
35:52
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, right was, you know, visibly emotional after the pick, which I thought it was really cool for him to have that moment.
36:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And then yeah, Logan no mentions in the chat here feels like he's digs from the
36:09
[SPEAKER_01]: At least at this stage, he's, he's great value brands, Trayvon digs, which, hey, it can be good.
36:17
[SPEAKER_01]: It can be really good from time to time.
36:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Just not necessarily the most consistent.
36:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Another question, how's beer haul?
36:25
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to take a simple water because my throat is dry.
36:31
[SPEAKER_01]: And if anyone has any other ideas of how to make my throat less dry, I'd love to read them in the comments and read them out loud with your name attached.
36:45
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.
36:45
[SPEAKER_01]: God, I love being hydrated.
36:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Don't you?
36:49
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the best.
36:50
[SPEAKER_01]: The more I get older is the the more water I drink and I've realized a lot of you listening to this are probably like
37:00
[SPEAKER_01]: When you're older, oh my god, you're like, aren't you like 12?
37:04
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, yeah, but I'm getting up there.
37:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, you know, I'm getting my aches and pains and everything.
37:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And, but yeah, water's the best.
37:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, when I'm guys success, prevent the bears from drafting and other running back, I don't think so.
37:21
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think I don't get the sense that the bears would
37:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is this is way down the line.
37:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Swift is still under contract through the 2026 season and then I think it expires in 2027 in that off season.
37:39
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's two off seasons for now is what he'd be a for agent.
37:45
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot can change between that and now I expect that a lot will change between that and now, but.
37:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't get the sense that he's going to be here for 10 years just naturally that doesn't happen at the running back position.
37:58
[SPEAKER_01]: It's rare for a running back to get two major contracts over the course of their career, both from the same team.
38:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.
38:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Manongai specifically has been good.
38:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't sit here and say, oh yeah, he's a superstar.
38:17
[SPEAKER_01]: He's the running back one of the future.
38:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel comfortable saying that he's a good complimentary back.
38:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel I hesitate to say anything more than that right now just because it's a small sample size.
38:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think so.
38:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I think if the bears do draft another running back, it's still factor into the rotation probably.
38:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it obviously depends on who you're picking and when you're picking them, but I don't think that monom guy being a decent rotational piece is going to prevent them from.
38:49
[SPEAKER_01]: Drafting another running back maybe it makes it less of a need for sure and it makes it less pressing okay We would be really great if we came away here from the first two rounds with the running back I don't think you necessarily need to do that especially as the bears keep winning games like they're not going to be in range realistically for Jeremiah love
39:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I think any team that drafts him is a team that already, that's going to finish the years with fewer wins than what the bears already have right now.
39:20
[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, if Jonah Coleman out of Washington is really good, just as hands out of Michigan is really good, but he's hurt.
39:26
[SPEAKER_01]: He's out for the year.
39:27
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see how that affects his stock if any.
39:32
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think that you really don't need to draft a running back early.
39:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Me, I mean, maybe you keep, you keep Swift.
39:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's as much of a foregone conclusion that he's gone with how he's played this year.
39:46
[SPEAKER_01]: He's been a lot better than he was last year for sure.
39:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the bear's draft another running back to push for, you know, Rochon for his job and, you know, with Travis Holmer dwelling in that special team and sort of only role.
40:02
[SPEAKER_01]: But no, I don't think that my non-guys play puts a limit on, all right, we're just not gonna draft a running back.
40:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Branson, my glorious Jacob, what player jersey should I buy for my three-year-old?
40:14
[SPEAKER_01]: Awesome, so that's a good question.
40:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, so I don't have any current bears jerseys because I just keep getting burned every single time.
40:26
[SPEAKER_01]: I got one for Khalil Mack that worked out really well for a while and then they traded him.
40:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I had a trabiscity jersey that worked out for a couple of games in 2018 and then aged that poorly.
40:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I got a Justin Fields jersey that looked really good for a couple of games in late season 2022 when he was running over everybody, but obviously aged poorly.
40:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Oduze, honestly, Oduze or Jalen Johnson, I think Jalen Johnson will be a good jersey too.
41:03
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who your three-year-old's favorite player is.
41:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I know that when I was growing up, I like, I mean, it's different, because I grew up with Earl Lacker and Briggs and Hester, you know, some of the flashier names were more on defense or special teams.
41:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like a lot of the younger kids would really like, like an offensive player.
41:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to do that, then go do and say, I think a dude and say, would be a nice jersey.
41:33
[SPEAKER_01]: He's, I mean, he's the wider receiver one.
41:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel more confident and him sticking around for a while than I do with, you know, like a DJ more so to speak.
41:43
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I'd say go a duze or jail in Johnson, go with one of those two.
41:48
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think you should be okay.
41:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope you're three-year-old enjoys whatever jersey you end up buying, him or her, or her.
41:59
[SPEAKER_01]: House Beer Hall, Fuzzy Whittaker jersey would be a good option too.
42:02
[SPEAKER_01]: If you want, yeah, sure.
42:04
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be the most insane pull of a three-year-old of all time, do we're a Fuzzy Whittaker jersey to preschool?
42:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, if I were preschool teacher, I'd be like, to that kid knows ball, or at least his parents do.
42:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you have a fuzzy wig or jersey, you're a true psycho, uh, Branson, O'June say a solid, thanks bro, of course, uh,
42:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope to see a picture of that jersey whenever it comes in.
42:32
[SPEAKER_01]: That'll be pretty sweet.
42:33
[SPEAKER_01]: Logan Don, best Miss Zubar.
42:35
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
42:36
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll take, I'll take a quick side bar.
42:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Get it.
42:41
[SPEAKER_01]: It's bar.
42:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, fucking kill me.
42:46
[SPEAKER_01]: But anyway, best Miss Zubar.
42:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say,
42:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a heart boes guy.
42:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a heart boes over Willie's 10 times out of 10.
42:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, Willie's I think was just way too crowded.
42:59
[SPEAKER_01]: It's way too long of a line to get in.
43:01
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, charged with, you know, the cover was usually pretty crazy.
43:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, heart boes is pretty crazy too, usually.
43:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But I like,
43:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like there's more room, more opportunity.
43:13
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you're not socializing, like having in-depth deep conversations at either bar just because it's so loud, but I think there's a lot more space at Harbo's.
43:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I really like the rooftop part of the bar.
43:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'd go Harbo's for sure.
43:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I got kicked out of Harbo's one time because I threw up in a trash can.
43:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Bad memories.
43:41
[SPEAKER_01]: from that at least and that same night I stumbled and walked my way back home to my apartment.
43:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I went into the bathroom.
43:51
[SPEAKER_01]: I tried to, you know, puke in the toilet.
43:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I missed the toilet.
43:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I threw up all over my walls.
43:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I fell asleep in the bathroom on the ground and then I woke up and I had a massive hangover and I described the puke the dried puke off the walls.
44:08
[SPEAKER_01]: So
44:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, harboes will always have a special spot in my heart.
44:15
[SPEAKER_01]: Also shout out, though, the understudy, I like the understudy.
44:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's another great spot where, you know, it's a little bit more chill if you want to sit down and get a table there, you know, place them in the games and stuff like that, understudies pretty sweet.
44:29
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a close second, but harboes is probably my favorite.
44:33
[SPEAKER_01]: uh M.I.C.Cubbs 23 Harpos got to be number one.
44:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you.
44:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you for sure.
44:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh and my dad says, look, so Andrew's angry is enjoying it.
44:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Logan done hidden gem.
44:45
[SPEAKER_01]: And my dad says, I'm so proud to know that.
44:48
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, yeah.
44:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So that doesn't happen as much anymore.
44:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Just so you guys know, my partying days are few, but there you go.
45:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get back to the bears here, Andrew's angry.
45:05
[SPEAKER_01]: Jacob just curious, realistically, what record do you think the bears can finish with this season?
45:12
[SPEAKER_01]: And then he says in another comment, we could split with Green Bay to Troy's sweeps us.
45:16
[SPEAKER_01]: We probably lose to Philly and San Francisco thoughts.
45:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, I think you win three more games.
45:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they go 10 and seven.
45:25
[SPEAKER_01]: And if it's, it might be Green Bay,
45:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it you either if you win either Green Bay or San Francisco.
45:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I think one of those two games the bears will win.
45:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't say which one.
45:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really not sure.
45:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I also think the bears will lose one game against the Packers too.
45:45
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
45:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they could beat Pittsburgh.
45:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Aaron Rodgers is hurt.
45:49
[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see how that all turns out.
45:51
[SPEAKER_01]: If Mason Rudolph is going to be coming to Soldier Field next week, I'll be there at that game.
45:56
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you guys see me say hi, or you know, just don't pour any beer over me or anything.
46:04
[SPEAKER_01]: But anything else is fine.
46:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they could beat the Steelers.
46:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's definitely a winnable game.
46:09
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to say they're going to win, but it's definitely winnable.
46:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Cleveland is winnable definitely.
46:16
[SPEAKER_01]: You win those two games you're at 9 and 8 and then I think between Detroit, Philly, two Packers games in the 49ers, I think you win one of those games.
46:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I think you definitely come out of that stretch with a less than 500 record.
46:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you win, because that's what, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
46:38
[SPEAKER_01]: That's 5.
46:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I know how to count guys.
46:40
[SPEAKER_01]: You couldn't see that I was using my fingers like a child.
46:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm just, I don't know, I'm not very smart these days.
46:49
[SPEAKER_01]: As far as counting goes, as far as counting in regards to numbers.
46:55
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think 10 and 7, that's what I'm going with right now.
46:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the bears win.
47:02
[SPEAKER_01]: One of their Packers games, or they beat the 49ers, I think that, and then Steelers and Browns, I think that gets them at 10 and 7.
47:09
[SPEAKER_01]: So if they look competitive against the Eagles, they look more competitive against the Lions, I mean, that game's going to be at Soldier Field, so that should probably help too.
47:18
[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, wouldn't be like a massive blowout like the one at Ford Field, knock on wood.
47:27
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, 10 and 7 is what I'm done with.
47:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love for them to be 11 and 6.
47:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I, obviously, I don't think they're going to finish the rest of the season undefeated.
47:37
[SPEAKER_01]: I think they have at least three losses ahead of them with how tough their schedule is.
47:42
[SPEAKER_01]: And just the fact that they have in beaten some of these teams like super convincingly has me think that they come out of that with,
47:54
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, more losses than wins, but yeah, I'm going to say they went three more games 10 and 7 is the final that should be enough to make it to the wild card, but
48:05
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
48:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, obviously, the Seahawks were 10 and 7 last year, they missed the playoffs.
48:10
[SPEAKER_01]: They're probably going to do much better than 10 and 7 this year, and they're probably going to make the playoffs.
48:15
[SPEAKER_01]: So really, if you can outdo the 49ers, I think that that's key.
48:20
[SPEAKER_01]: It would also obviously help if the 49ers started losing a couple games, if the packers start losing a couple games, uh,
48:30
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I say 10 and 7 and you follow up Andrew's anger saying I think that's fair going into the season.
48:36
[SPEAKER_01]: We'd all be happy with 10 and 7.
48:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm with you.
48:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm with you for sure.
48:42
[SPEAKER_01]: How is beer horses?
48:43
[SPEAKER_01]: Jacob, do you think, JJ McCarthy is the Vikings long term quarterback?
48:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's too early to tell honestly, especially with him missing the entire year and how, you know, the games that he's missed this season.
48:56
[SPEAKER_01]: It's such a small sample size.
48:58
[SPEAKER_01]: look, do the Vikings probably wish that they had a better record than they do right now, probably, do they think that would they want better performance on a JJ McCarthy, probably, but I think, you know, going into the season, you kind of knew,
49:20
[SPEAKER_01]: this guy's pretty inexperienced from an NFL perspective, even at Michigan, he was asked more to manage the game more so than take over, there's going to be a learning curve, there's definitely been a learning curve for him from an accuracy perspective, you know, from a mental perspective, I think there's a chance that he can still be their long-term quarterback.
49:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd say that momentum isn't very hot right now, but again, there's a lot
49:50
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.
49:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I wish the best for the guy.
49:53
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that whatever happens, he never wins against the bears for the rest of time.
50:03
[SPEAKER_01]: The rest of it, you know, nothing against the guy seems like
50:12
[SPEAKER_01]: He follows me, so he's got good taste.
50:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I definitely, and I do follow him back, obviously, because it's a starting quarterback in the NFL why would I not?
50:22
[SPEAKER_01]: And he also torched the Benedict Category Red Wings in 2018.
50:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So...
50:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I doubt JJ is watching my, uh, wrap it up, recap here on Twitter and the second city grid on YouTube and Facebook page.
50:39
[SPEAKER_01]: But a lot of you are.
50:40
[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you, uh, as of right now, we are currently the top.
50:46
[SPEAKER_01]: bears related stream going on on Twitter slash x right now, which again, I don't take for granted.
50:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very grateful.
50:56
[SPEAKER_01]: All of you will listen to me just sitting here with a laptop sitting at my kitchen table with this big ass clock behind me, no fancy equipment or nothing, no, you know, studio microphone or anything.
51:09
[SPEAKER_01]: Just guys, it's just me talking ball and
51:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Ultimately, take in your questions, giving you guys an opportunity to share your thoughts as well.
51:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It means a lot, you know, there are a lot of shows out there, so I'm grateful that all of you were here with this one, with the jacester.
51:28
[SPEAKER_01]: So,
51:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, I say going forward next week is going to be against the Steelers, and that's where I guess I'll transition into Jacob and Fonte's happy ending.
51:43
[SPEAKER_01]: So closure eyes open your mouth here comes here's a little heavy heavy load of positivity for you all.
51:57
[SPEAKER_01]: was, I don't know if that was a good bid or not.
52:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I really don't.
52:01
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing.
52:02
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have like I have an audience here, but there's no studio audience.
52:05
[SPEAKER_01]: There's no immediate feedback of, oh, haha, he made a joke about sex.
52:11
[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if I just look like an absolute idiot right now or if anybody's laughing.
52:14
[SPEAKER_01]: So that overthinking and that lack of clarity will haunt me until the
52:24
[SPEAKER_01]: It feels really good to be winners of three straight after dropping that Raven's game and ending the four game winning streak.
52:32
[SPEAKER_01]: Seven and three is huge.
52:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't say that enough.
52:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Just how important that's gonna be down the stretch, winning these games no matter how ugly.
52:45
[SPEAKER_01]: Like you don't get into the, you don't get into the postseason off of point differential.
52:49
[SPEAKER_01]: You get in there off of wins.
52:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Excuse me.
52:54
[SPEAKER_01]: The Burger King I had at midnight last night is coming back to haunt me.
53:01
[SPEAKER_01]: So the demons of fast food royalty.
53:06
[SPEAKER_01]: So anyway, here we go.
53:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was funny.
53:11
[SPEAKER_01]: My wife was very confused hearing that after I said I was listening to a bears recap.
53:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I am so sorry to your wife that you had to hear that or yeah, you're to hear that.
53:22
[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope I hope you guys are doing well.
53:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously good to see you, but man, that's a tough look explaining that to the wife.
53:35
[SPEAKER_01]: mode you say, oh, he's just some pervert who talks about football on Twitter.
53:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess that's your best bet.
53:43
[SPEAKER_01]: That's your best bet to explain that to her.
53:46
[SPEAKER_01]: So there you go, I guess.
53:51
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, now you go into a winnable stealer's game.
53:56
[SPEAKER_01]: And you're at seven wins right now.
53:58
[SPEAKER_01]: You've already tied the most that Maddie Refleuse ever had as head coach of the Bears and it's the middle of November.
54:08
[SPEAKER_01]: They're knock on wood, going to win more games.
54:11
[SPEAKER_01]: You're only two wins away from finishing above 500.
54:15
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the first time they'd have finished above 500 since I believe 2018.
54:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I know the bears they made the wild card in 2020.
54:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember what their record was.
54:26
[SPEAKER_01]: So let me check.
54:30
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 2020, they were eight and eight, and they lost in the wild card.
54:34
[SPEAKER_01]: The last year of the 16-game season, it would be, if the Bears won two more games of the, do the math seven games that are left.
54:46
[SPEAKER_01]: If they would two of the seven games that are left in this season, the Bears are gonna finish above 500.
54:51
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that,
54:54
[SPEAKER_01]: If you told anybody that we'd be in this situation as bear's fans, where our team is performing, or they're winning games at the frequency that they are, I think everybody would be happy with that.
55:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think there's a single person that would say, I was expecting more, like seven and three, that's a tough record to come by.
55:15
[SPEAKER_01]: And,
55:18
[SPEAKER_01]: I like if I've kept saying throughout the course of the show, when you're in, especially when you're in a playoff race, when you're in a competitive division, when you're in a competitive conference like the NFC where there's no guarantee that 10 and 7 is going to be enough to make the playoffs.
55:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Every win every win counts, every game counts.
55:38
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's, you know, the important thing to take away from this is the bears just find a way to keep on winning and that speaks to the culture that speaks to the mentality these guys have it's night and day from last year.
55:53
[SPEAKER_01]: And even if the execution isn't always perfect, it definitely isn't, there's a lot I can say about the offense from this week that I mentioned a little bit of today, the special teams definitely has been a problem.
56:10
[SPEAKER_01]: And the defense has had some inconsistency throughout the course of the year.
56:14
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a finished product by any means, but it's a much better product.
56:18
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a much better football team than what we've seen the last couple seasons.
56:24
[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of the course the same, honestly.
56:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the offensive line is pretty drastically different, but a lot of the defenses are the same.
56:34
[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of the weapons are the same.
56:36
[SPEAKER_01]: And
56:38
[SPEAKER_01]: Your quarterback is the same, too.
56:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I think above all else, but in your winning these games now, you're turning those close calls into victories.
56:49
[SPEAKER_01]: And will they continue this the rest of the season who knows?
56:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?
56:55
[SPEAKER_01]: Will they reach double digit wins who knows if they make it to the playoffs who knows?
57:01
[SPEAKER_01]: But they're better.
57:04
[SPEAKER_01]: they're much better.
57:06
[SPEAKER_01]: They're a better football team.
57:07
[SPEAKER_01]: They're not a perfect football team, but they're a better football team.
57:12
[SPEAKER_01]: Good better best.
57:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Never let it rest until your good gets better and your better gets best.
57:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Now I am going to I'm going to best all over my screen right now
57:33
[SPEAKER_01]: about the bears, beating the Minnesota Vikings.
57:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Good segue, 1917, the Chicago Bears are seven and three.
57:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say thank you to everybody tuning in, dealing with my disgusting childish jokes.
57:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for amusing me and thank you for I will I have to go I want to go back and check like the Facebook and the YouTube analytics I couldn't tell you exactly off the top of my head where that's at right now, but I do want to say thank you at least for making this.
58:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm never going to say I'm the best at anything, I'm never going to say I'm the best at anything, but statistically speaking, it's the top post game show on X, so I'm not saying it's the best, but statistically it's at the top, and that's all because of you guys.
58:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't do that any of this, that every single one of you,
58:34
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and I use this as an opportunity to stroke my fragile ego and remind myself that I have value, but it also speaks to the bears community.
58:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really appreciative for every single one of you guys.
58:50
[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to do it for wrapping up with Jacob and Fonte.
58:53
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, thank you all for tuning in.
58:55
[SPEAKER_01]: This has been a wonderful show.
58:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, the bears are seven and three winners of three straight there.
59:04
[SPEAKER_01]: firmly in position to make the playoffs, they just got to execute.
59:10
[SPEAKER_01]: But if this bears team has showed us anything, it's that when the chips are down, when the their backs are against the wall, they're, they're able to come away.
59:19
[SPEAKER_01]: They're able to come away and pick up the win when they need it most.
59:21
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm pretty confident that things are going to work out.
59:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, one way or another.
59:27
[SPEAKER_01]: So that'll do it.
59:28
[SPEAKER_01]: We're just short of an hour.
59:29
[SPEAKER_01]: Appreciate all you guys for tuning in.
59:31
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59:35
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59:41
[SPEAKER_01]: So thank you all for tuning in.
59:43
[SPEAKER_01]: The Chicago Bears are 73 bear down.