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  SPEAKER_02: Disclaimer, the views and opinions expressed in this program are those of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of any entities they represent.
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_02: Listener discretion is advised.
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  SPEAKER_02: Today's episode takes us deep into the heart of Miami's music team with one of its most electrifying forces, Experimental.
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  SPEAKER_02: Joining me on the podcast today is Camilo and Emiliano, the creative core of Experimento, who have been pushing the boundaries of town for more than a decade.
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  SPEAKER_02: From the underground clubs of Miami to sharing stages with icons like Mark Anthony, Ricky Martin, and even a surprise program with Prince itself.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_02: Their journey is nothing short of incredible.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_02: We dive into the fusion of cultures that fuel Experimento, the stories behind their global adventures, and what's next for this our house of rhythm and soul.
• 1:06
  SPEAKER_02: Ladies and gentlemen, this is Caught on the Microsoft.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_02: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Caught on the Mic.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_02: As summertime kind of starts to come to a close, we get those last little glimpses of warm weather, good vibes, and I cannot wait for you to meet my next guests, Emiliano and Camilo from the band Experimento.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_02: Guys, how the hell are you?
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_01: What's up?
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_02: Oh my gosh.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_02: Dude, I have been so excited for this episode.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_02: I was telling the guys right before we started recording how my wife and I were driving around the other day, we're running errands, and I queue up Spotify.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_02: I know that might be a bad word whenever we're talking about pay or whatnot, but but I queue up Spotify.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_02: I put on a whole playlist of these guys' music, and we're smiling from ear to ear.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_02: How's your summer been, guys?
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_02: Summer's been hot.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_02: Hot.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we're here in Miami, and you know, Miami is is uh extremely hot in the summer, like way too hot.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like barely go outside.
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and humid.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_01: You get in the car and it says 102 degrees.
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's crazy.
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  SPEAKER_01: But cool.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's cool.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_01: You guys have been playing a lot of shows this summer?
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: We've been uh we've been there.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we did how many shows?
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like two or three shows.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_01: Not too much.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_01: Not our usual.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was more than that, but it was the the cool part about it was like the different like variety of like the different types of shows.
• 2:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like we had everything from like El Patio and Winwood, which is like a little uh a little like Latin like Sunday party in Wynwood, all the way to F1.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_00: We played the F1, um, and that was control.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and so you know, we uh we we we do well in the summers, which is usually like the slow season, right?
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um we tend to be able to get you know at least one or two good in you know it uh uh every month.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_00: And so yeah, I mean, uh no complaints, really.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's been uh it's been a really productive uh summer.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_00: And we're also been riding again and getting back in the studio and stuff like that.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_00: So that's always hell yes.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_02: Hell yes, hell yes.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_02: That's that's exciting.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, let's talk a little bit about your guys' origin stories.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna allow you guys the opportunity to introduce yourselves one by one, first and foremost.
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  SPEAKER_02: Whoever wants to go first, take your shot.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, my name is Emiliano, and uh we are experimento, and I'm from Buenos Aires, Argentina, raised in Miami.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I do background vocals, I play the trumpet.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: Uh that's it.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_00: That's not it, but Emmy actually does a lot of stuff.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_00: He's our MD, um, and he handles a lot of a lot of other stuff behind the scenes.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_00: Uh very good producer as well, uh writer as well.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, my name's Camilo uh aka Caracas.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh I am from Puerto Rico, as you can see in the back.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I was also raised in Miami.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh I'm the lead singer of Experimento.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and I also uh uh Emmy and I, you know, co-produce and co-write together.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um and I also take care of uh I guess what you would call like creative direction or anything visual um as far as as far as like our imaging and stuff like that goes.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's one of the other things that I do as well.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_00: And so yeah, that's us.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_00: We're experimental from the MIA 305.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, you forgot you're the video director.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_01: He directs our videos too, which is cool, I think.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_01: Part-time uh director editor.
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  SPEAKER_01: The good thing about us is that we're very self-sufficient, like we do, you know, like uh Camilo handles the visual part, a lot of the visual part, a lot of you know, and then I take care of the other side, but you know, between both of us, we could do everything, you know?
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_01: We're just gonna yes, I love that.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Now you guys have have roots in places other than Miami and connections all across Latin America.
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  SPEAKER_02: How did your upbringing and cultural background shape the way that you guys approach music in the Miami scene and like globally?
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_00: I think Miami is just the key there because Miami's so diverse and has so many different cultures, uh, especially like Caribbean and and South American cultures, which is kind of you know what is our pocket.
• 5:44
  SPEAKER_00: And uh I think growing up, you know, we were influenced by a lot of different things that a lot of people, you know, growing up in other parts of the country or even the world, they only get like exposed to like a few genres in their growing up.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so we got exposed to like 10.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like everything from like reggae, salsa, cumbia, merengue, bachata, hip-hop, jazz, funk, soul, RB.
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like I could go on the list, you know what I mean?
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like everything is here, and so like we are a band that you know the name experimento translates to experiment, which is like we're experimenting with different things, different sounds.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_00: We take something from over here and we go, what would happen if we mix it with this from over here?
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_00: People would think that maybe it wouldn't mix, but since we're so versed in all these things, then we kind of cook them up and make them like mesh together.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_00: So we do like really cool mashups and stuff like that, and it's just kind of like it, it you know, our influence is literally like where we come from and what we've what we've listened to like pretty much all our lives.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: What Camilo's saying is spot on, you know, like Miami, it's it there's a lot of diversity, and it I think it's so cool.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, even with our musicians in in the band, like we have Colombia, Venezuela, Cuba, you know, Camilo Puerto Rico, I'm Argentina.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like you you only find that in Miami, you know, because there's just so many uh different people with different from different countries, you know.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_01: I I feel like Miami is like you know the capital of Latin America, you know, and the Caribbean.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it's super cool because you know, we get we get to mix everything, you know, like and then like somebody will be like, hey, in Venezuela, we do it like this, and then Camilo will be like, oh, Puerto Rico, you know, and then I'm like, dude, in Argentina, you know.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_01: So there's no I think what's the beauty of us is that we we don't limit ourselves.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_01: We we like to mix everything up and and and most of the time it comes out pretty fucking cool, you know?
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yeah, yes, yes, I love that.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_02: So take us back to 2009 when you guys put the group together in Miami.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_02: Like, how did that come about?
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  SPEAKER_02: What was the genesis of the project?
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we Camilo and I we were in a different band.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so Camilo was uh a keyboard player, amazing keyboard player.
• 8:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um and then uh, you know, um around yeah, around 2009, yeah, that's when it was.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I decided to uh to put together this band, you know, and I you know Camilo would always do background vocals, he would sing too, you know.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I I gave him a call and I told him, dude, what do you what do you think about this?
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_01: What do you think about doing that?
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_01: And and it's funny because when I called him, it was like he was like, When are we playing?
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I told him tomorrow.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: Something like that.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_01: Like the next day.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_01: And he was like, yo, what are we gonna do?
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_01: And and and let me tell you something.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_01: This is something that not too many people know.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_01: When we started, we were we would write our songs on stage.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, no kidding.
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because we would love, like we would all we always followed our name, you know, experimento, you know, which our our name too is like in it's experiment, and then we added an O.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_01: So it's in English and Spanish.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we were like, man, let's just do whatever we always wanted to do, you know, that we couldn't do because sometimes, you know, you're limited, and oh, we're we're all we're only in Latin or we're only English, and you know, and we're doing this genre.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_01: So I I feel like we had a lot of fun starting, and I think that was the base of like us, you know.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I love that.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_02: Now, not very many bands can say that Prince has jumped on stage with them.
• 9:46
  SPEAKER_02: What was going your through your head when that happened?
• 9:50
  SPEAKER_02: And how did that experience come about and influence your confidence?
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_01: So uh around that time, 2009, 2010, we were we were playing at a really tiny place called Jasset, right?
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, right on right on the beach, right on South Beach.
• 10:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, South Beach, Washington Avenue and 13th.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, how many people do you think fit there?
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like 40 max?
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_01: Probably, yeah, like something like that.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_01: 40 people.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_01: So we used to play, let's say we started at 11, we used to finish like at 3:30 in the morning.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: It was crazy, like oh wow, it was always packed with 40, 45 people.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes I would let some people more people in.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: And one of those nights, I had this like uh really big dude in a suit like tapping me.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: It was like probably like around 2.30 in the morning, asking me to play guitar, you know.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: And I thought this guy was like trolling me, you know what I mean?
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like, hey, I want to play guitar, you know.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I I thought he looked weird because he had a suit, he had shades at 2.30 in the morning.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_01: Man in black looking like man in black, dude, exactly.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: So you thought, damn, this guy, you know, he's he's either crazy or maybe he's a great guitar player.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_01: So he came in.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and the funny thing is when you will come in, I you I was right there because the stage was so tiny that I was next to the door, you know.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: So this guy kept tapping me, tapping me.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: The third time he mentioned something about purple rain.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_01: So I was like, all right, this guy's messing with me.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, I told him, Yeah, whatever, yeah, come play, whatever.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I got sick of it.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: So he comes back a minute later and he opens the door, and like three bodyguards surround the tiny stage, which I think I think was funny.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: And Prince walks in and he goes straight to our guitar player, and nobody knew anything because I was the only one going back and forth with the with his bodyguard.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_01: And Prince just goes up to our guitar player, and he he doesn't even say anything because we were in the middle of like playing and we were like jamming, you know what I mean?
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_01: And Prince just goes up to him, and our guitar player, I remember looking at uh El Negro, just giving him the guitar, like he thought that he was dreaming or something, and then uh Prince got his guitar, started jamming.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: I think he jammed like two songs, and it was crazy because like at the beginning, it was Tuscumbia.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_01: At the beginning, he was asking me kind of like the chords, and I was like, is this really happening?
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what's going on, dude?
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I had drank a few beers, and I was like, Maybe I don't know.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: I maybe I'm too drunk, I don't know, or maybe I popped something and I forgot.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_01: So, anyway, he played two songs, he and then he just he just left.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_01: And let me tell you a funny, a funny story, our guitar player, we call him El Negro, you know.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_01: He sold that guitar a couple months ago, and I wanted to kill him.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_01: You know, we have pictures, we have pictures of Prince playing his guitar, like oh, yeah, he sold it, you know what I mean?
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's crazy.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_01: So, anyway, that story was crazy.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: This guy sold his guitar.
• 12:57
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, we you know, we we had a buzz with experimento when we're starting the the the story goes that he was looking for a Latin band, you know what I mean?
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and you know, uh some people told him about us, and you know, he was probably like, ah, let me jam with this with these guys, you know.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_02: Well, any Chappelle show fan would kill me if I didn't ask this question.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_02: But did you guys get to play basketball and eat pancakes with them afterwards?
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: Listen, we didn't play ball, but uh the only thing I could I could remember is he had high heels, yeah, and he was like I'm not too tall, I'm like six feet, I'm like kind of like a little bit above average, but with high heels, he was like this.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: I I I'm guessing he was like five seven with high heels.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_01: Oh wow, and and after I I I I talked to a couple people that knew him.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_01: Uh one of them was his manager and everything, and and she was like, Yeah, he's like he was like five four, five three.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_02: But I heard he's a baller, like for being that short.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_02: It's like that's like Spud Webb level stuff, right?
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_01: Mugsy bog style, yeah.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_01: He's a baller.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, they told me, they told me he will play like you know, the Chappelle show is like very real.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yeah, yeah.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_01: He'll play at three in the morning, you know, like call his buddies, and how do you say no to Prince?
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_02: Exactly, exactly crazy, crazy story.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_02: Karasi, you you kind of leaning into your experiences, how do you balance so many genres without losing the band's core identity?
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_02: I know it's a lot easier now than maybe it was in the early days because people are a little bit I and this is where I pointed this out several times in recent episodes of the podcast.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_02: As much as we want to shit on streaming, one of the benefits of streaming is people are starting to look at music as music and looking at it as being borderless now, where originally not even as little as 10-15 years ago, an AR rep would say, you need to get into a lane and stay in that lane.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_02: But you guys are you guys are really diverse.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_02: How do you balance that without losing the core identity of the band?
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: I think that um we try to tap into a little bit of everything.
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and sometimes we, you know, we look at like let's say like the last couple songs that we've done, and we kind of just go with what does well um you know with the audience and also keeping true to like what we really like, what we enjoy.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_00: We're not afraid to try anything, and I think the balance comes from just like being you know, being on stage musicians, you know, and playing live has been like the core of like what we've done.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um and so it has to work live.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh it has to it has to it has to work, you know, in a in a live performance setting, uh no auto-tune, no tricks, you know what I mean?
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like just like raw, live, like everything real.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um and and also, you know, we pay attention a lot to what makes people dance and what makes people move.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_00: What you know, yeah, we have a couple slower songs, and you know, some joints are like reggae, and some some are more like low tempo, mid-tempo, but our really bread and butter is like that up-tempo, like you want to just like fly through the roof of the place, like you know what I mean, like when when when we're when we're on, and that's kind of like what we try to focus on.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: So whatever rhythms and whatever genres, quote unquote, because I remember when there was like you know, like genres was actually a thing, now it's not as much anymore because it's like exactly because people have already like realized, like, oh, it's just like a tag or a or or a or a label that that the that the labels put on on music, so that way that the labels were put a lot, yeah, yeah, because that way that way they can sell and they can categorize and they're gonna be like, oh, whatever, this and that, you know what I mean?
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um, there's so many more genres now that it's almost no genre, you know what I mean?
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_00: And so we kind of pioneered that vibe of just like let's let's mix things together, like there, why you know why does a song have to be straight one rhythm the whole entire song, you know, that is exists and there's and there's an audience for everything, right?
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: But I think that more and more, especially live, and especially nowadays where you know attention spans are a little bit shorter and people want to have moments, they want to feel moments, you know, like more often, you know, like like in a song.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_00: Like before you had like one big moment in a song, and it was like the crescendo and boom, and then like we have songs that's changed rhythm like four times, you know what I mean?
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_00: Back and forth through the thing, and it keeps people on edge and it keeps it interesting, I think.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_00: So we we balance it with just like feeling out the people and and also just like one of the rules, I think, like on one of those like unspoken rules, is that we gotta love it.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we're never gonna do a genre that we don't love a thousand percent, you know what I mean, and that doesn't resonate.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_00: It could be like the number one freaking uh thing going on in the moment.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: We won't touch it with a tenfold pole because we wanna stay true to what we love and what the so you know, the the rhythms that like we really like, you know what I mean, and enjoy too, you know.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_02: You know, uh I'm kind of going back to a point that our mutual friend Kevin Jordan Reese from the Reese Brothers mentioned on the pod a couple of weeks ago, and then I retraced with our other mutual homies, the guys in Glass Cities, people look at music less as genre and more as mood now, and that's like yeah, and and that is such an amazing and profound thing.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_02: And Kevin Jordan Reese was the one that pointed that out, and I was like, shit, dude, you're on to something here.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: What a cool dude.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: Kevin is such a cool dude.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Reese Brothers.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_00: Both the bros are, yeah, the Reese Brothers, man.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: They're they're super talented casts, super nice, man, super good, you know, good people.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, man.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: Shout out to the Reese Brothers.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_02: Straight up, Parnes has not introduced me to guys I haven't liked yet.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_02: So shout out to Dave Parnes, man.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's our guy.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yes.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_02: So you guys have worked with Mark Anthony.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_02: We talked about the Prince story and Ricky Martin and much more.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_02: What's the most important lesson that you guys have learned from collaborating with such big names?
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like the biggest artists have been the most humble, the nicest, the most simple, you know, and and I know it sounds weird, but it I realize why they're so big.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: And then I work with all types of artists, you know, and then I see the ones who are not there yet, and they're like completely the opposite.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, dude, you're never gonna get there.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like energy, the vibes, you know, how humble you are is gonna open so many doors for you in any any any category, in any place, you know, in any any profession.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think that's so key.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like, if people don't vibe with you and they don't feel good with you, then bye-bye.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah, that's then that's so that's that was the biggest the biggest artist, like with Mark Anthony.
• 20:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like, remember uh Camilla with Mark Anthony, he dude, he was superstar, and he was like, Yeah, hey, what's up, guys?
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, oh my god, you know, uh just talking.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, and yeah, this girl, she's crazy.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: Look at her hat, like super down to earth, you know what I mean?
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like he said hi to everybody, he gave, you know, you know, it's like dude, Ricky's the same way, like the biggest artists are the coolest ones, the nicest ones, and then you have some that are not that big, and they're assholes, and you're like, dude, nah, that's not gonna happen.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_01: Or maybe they make it and then drop right away.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: So that's that's been my my biggest lessons with with the biggest, you know.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I have a similar experience in the podcast community because I've worked a lot with people in the professional fighting space, like different MMA fighters and boxers and such.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_02: And and people common commonly say to me, it's like, well, I really can't get on board with that.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm always like, listen to the episode because some of the most vicious fighters are some of the most humble people in the world because they've left that experience in the octagon, they've left their aggression in the boxing ring, and so their experiences in the real world sometimes make them some of the most humble and kind people.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_02: Perfect example.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: I just thought about it.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_01: Messi.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: Look at Messi.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, Messi get stopped out of light.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Has you know like no tense, and they're like, Hey dude, can you sign?
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_01: They get off, and he's like, Yeah, can you take a picture?
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, dude, nicest dude, best soccer player in the history of like soccer, like by uh by a lot, and the guy is the most humble guy.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_01: I I feel like you know, he's uh the prime example.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_00: So I think the same.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: I I think that what I what I've paid attention to, what I've learned is like um it's all about how people treat other people, like when it comes to like like big artists, you know what I mean?
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like I always pay attention to that, and that marks, you know, for me, a big like it basically it shows me like okay, like if you want to make it this far, like if you want to make it this big, it's all about like how you treat others that work with you, that work for you, that work around you, you know, uh how open you are to you know to collaborating, like people that tend to be have a you know, people that tend to have like a bad name, a reputation of like being you know rude or or stuff like that, like those people, you know, sometimes they last, but for the most part, I don't think they really, you know, like some people like to be hated, you know what I mean?
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like I like when when it when it when it comes to when it comes to doing something that I love, right?
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: I want to be around people that love.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm I'm gonna say something about that.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: Usually when we collaborate, uh right away we I find out how they are right when you when they come in the door.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of them say hi.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_01: Some of them don't say hi.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_01: And once they don't say hi, it's like, dude, you know, like I know how you are, you know?
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yeah, absolutely.
• 23:52
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_02: Now, your multiple Grammy Award winner, how has that recognition shaped your career?
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_02: And by the way, congratulations on the most recent one.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um how has that shaped your career and does it change the way you create or perform?
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_01: No, it doesn't change at all.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I've been I've just been lucky uh to work with all these different uh people, geniuses, you know what I mean?
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_01: And they would just call me, you know, to produce, to to arrange, to record, you know, that's what I do in the studio.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I write a lot, but with this big artist, I was mainly producing, and uh and uh two of them was for a movie that one of them uh the United States vs.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_01: Billy Holiday, that we won a Golden Globe, uh we won a Grammy, and then uh we got nominated for an Oscar.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_01: Well, best actress, you know.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um but man, it's what an experience.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_01: It was, you know, like it was a long term, you know.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: I got to work with Salam Remy, uh, I got to work with uh the director, you know, uh Lee Daniels, another genius.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um Damien Marley on the other Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask you.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_02: What was it like to work with the Marley family?
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_01: Man, I work with all the Marlies, all the Marlies you can think of.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: I work with all of them, uh but there's one that stands out, and I didn't know how much of a genius he is until I was in this literally in the studio with him, and that's Damien.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he is the genius of all of them, like by far.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: Guy has insane ideas, an insane ear.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: He's laser focused on the studio.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_01: First time I worked with him, I was like, Whoa.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_01: Because you you know, you don't know a lot of a lot of people are very you get to the studio a lot of times, they're like, Oh, just you know, we got you because you're good, so give us your ideas.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_01: He was like, No, I need you to do this and I need you to do that.
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_01: You go do it, he's like, It's not right.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_01: And right away, I'm like, you know, what do you mean?
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I don't say anything, but I'm like, what do you mean is that right, motherfucker?
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: And then you hear it back, you hear it back, and it's wrong, right?
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_01: And that's when you're like, This fucking guy is a badass, you know.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_02: Sorry the profanity, you know?
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, no, no, dude, no.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_02: That's like punctuation marks for me.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_01: So Damien is a genius.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I got to work with uh grandkids, uh skip Marley, I got to work with um Mystic, she's amazing.
• 26:39
  SPEAKER_01: Awesome.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Kimani, I recorded a bunch of songs with him, Steven.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: And this one time I get to the studio, and um I'm sorry, I'm going off tracks.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_01: And uh when I get there, I hear Bob's vocals, a capella.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, what's going on?
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: Because a lot of times I get called, hey, can you do a session?
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: All right, yeah, cool.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_01: I usually don't ask.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I know it's gonna be something big, but I I don't wanna be like, who is it for?
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, you know?
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_01: So I just show up, I hear Bob's uh vocals, and then I'm like, dude, like what's going on?
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: What is this?
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: And the engineer's like, he didn't tell you.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: So what I was recording is it was an immersive show.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's called Marley in Vegas, Hope Road.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's a show that's going on now, and they we redid all the Bob Marley songs.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_01: We grabbed his vocals and we redid them.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_01: And the cool thing is that in the credits, it's like if I recorded with Bob Marley.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's amazing.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_02: That's one hell of a like footnote on the on the resume for sure.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, he's you know, like he's uh you know, he's an icon, a genius, whatever you want to call him, you know, like he's my my idol, you know.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_01: And for for me to be on the credits for that, it's insane.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: And the funny thing is, I got to the studio, I had no idea what it was, you know.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_01: And the engineer's like, oh, he didn't tell you, he didn't tell you about this, and I'm like, no.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_02: That's amazing.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_02: That's amazing.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_02: So let's talk about taking the show around the world.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_02: You guys have done the Super Bowl to performing with troops overseas.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_02: What's one unforgettable story that sticks with you that you're gonna carry for the rest of your life?
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: Man, uh definitely the overseas, definitely the the stuff that we've done with the Navy.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you want to talk about just like a once-in-a-lifetime thing or like you know, stuff that really is like you feel like you're living a movie or something, you know.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, those experiences for me were were were impactful, super unforgettable.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm super grateful as well.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm somebody that never really like my my dad's uh my dad's a a Vietnam veteran.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um and so I tend to, you know, I I be before I would look down negatively at anything, you know, with armed forces or war or anything like that, because I just didn't know anything other than like the bad experience that my dad had, you know, being drafted to the war and things like that.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_00: And then you see the news and you see stuff about war, and you're just like, that's there's no way you could spin that, you know what I mean, to be a good thing, right?
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_00: So I had this very like negative view of all of that um without really knowing uh you know or having any firsthand experience.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: And so when they uh asked us to play for the Navy overseas, the first trip that we did was Guam.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: We went to Guam, uh they sent us to Guam to go play for the troops.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and since then we you know we've done we've gone to Japan, we've gone to Bahrain, we've gone to uh Africa, Guantanamo Bay, we've gone to Africa, we've gone to uh you know places where yeah, we've we've gone to places that like I couldn't even tell you what they were because they literally don't exist like on any map or anything.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like and and and sometimes you know we we we did one of one of the trips that we did was on our aircraft carrier, the the SS Truman, I believe it was, humongous.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't the boxer, it was the boxer as well.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_00: That was one that was that was uh also part of the trip.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um that that trip, you know, I couldn't even tell you where we were because we were out uh in at sea, you know what I mean, and and probably I don't know, the Middle East somewhere.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but you know, these are these are were experiences that I mean we we have a lot of this on video, we have on on our YouTube.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh people want to go check out.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_00: We have a we have a video for each of those trips that we that we did.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um amazing time, man.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, talk about just feeling gratitude.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_00: These are things that you know, these are trips that like made me see really what it is to have, you know, a military in your country that protects and defends, you know, all the liberties and everything that we I know we said we were gonna get into politics and all like that, but like, you know, but but just me seeing that firsthand and actually being a direct recipient of that service that people say thank you for your service, like we were there with them and we got to speak with these people, we got to eat with these people, we got to, you know, just chill and hang with them and kind of hear their stories and things like that.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_00: And so I'm just forever grateful for those times because you know, there were times where like, you know, I was literally like, yo, is something about to pop off right now?
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like what, like, what's happening?
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there were times where we didn't know what was gonna happen, you know, where where you're like you're almost kind of like fear for your life a little bit, type of thing, you know, because you're out in the world, you're out at sea.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_00: There, I remember there was one part where we were like we were passing through this really through like a straight, uh, and it was like two uh rival countries on each side, and they were kind of saying, like, kind of jokingly, but not really.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_00: They were like, Yeah, you know, we're just can we're you know, we're we're like the we're like the watch guard of of here because we're we're just making sure that you know nothing pops off, and any one of these countries could like shoot off a missile to the other one at any given moment.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_00: We don't know, but don't worry, like we're safe.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_00: And you're like, Yeah.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_01: For this, at one time we were like on a small boat, and then we're like, if we go 30 feet that way, they shoot us, and we're like, please don't go 30 feet.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like don't do that, like you know, like stuff like that.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I I feel like, yeah, we're fortunate we've performed in places where not too many artists perform, yeah.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, yes, yes.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_02: It's amazing, uh, because it seems like through all these experiences, you guys have used the city of Miami as a muse, and Miami's diversity is unmatched, as you guys talked about earlier.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_02: How does the city's culture influence your energy with day-to-day life and your whole process?
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_02: Because you guys have already, in less than a half an hour's time, talked about some pretty damn amazing experiences.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_02: Like, how is the city's culture influenced that?
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_00: Miami just keeps it going.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_00: Miami is like the fuel that never ends, you know what I mean?
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, there's a lot of there's a lot of tourism here, there's a lot of um, it's a very transient city, so a lot of people come, they stay for a couple years, and then they go, they move somewhere else.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_00: So like just that all that movement and all that energy moving around is kind of what keeps us, you know, inspired, I think, and and and keeps us moving because you're currently or you're constantly rather you're constantly adapting to all the changes and to all the movements, all the ins and outs and everything that happens in the city.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just a very vibrant city.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_00: I think that you know, a city that's close to the water has like a special energy, and also uh, you know, the the energy of of the people that come here, like a lot of people that have tourism and stuff that comes here, they come here for a good time.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_00: So, like as artists from here, we're not only do we have that built into us, but we're also like, yeah, like we're Miami, like we are we're a good time.
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like we we we're here to show you a good time.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_00: And so we when we go other places, we bring that with us, you know what I mean?
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: And and we we perform as if we're that Miami band and we're known for that.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, uh Department of Uh Transportation did a campaign where we that we were involved in, where you know, we were the representatives of of the city of Miami.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_01: Um, there was other cities, correct.
• 35:00
  SPEAKER_00: And there was a bunch of other cities as well involved in that campaign.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, we they chose us because like we know Miami, you know, we know the vibes here.
• 35:09
  SPEAKER_00: And so, you know, I think that's just what Miami does for us.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_00: It's a home, it's also a muse, like you said.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, it's a huge inspiration.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and whenever we go places and we tell people that we're from Miami, they're like, oh man, you're from Miami?
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_00: Oh damn, oh man, I'm supposed to go down there.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: I want to go down there.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody wants to come here, you know what I mean?
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_00: And so, yeah, I think for me, that's that's what you know.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm a I'm a I'm a 305 till I die, is how we say down here, you know what I mean?
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's it's you know and I want to add something.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh a lot of events and a lot of like people that call us for performances.
• 35:47
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, first off, they say, Man, we feel like you guys represent Miami the most.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_01: So to that for us is like it's amazing, you know what I mean?
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_01: When we got called to perform at the Super Bowl, like they were like, We saw a lot of bands, and no band represents Miami like you guys, you know what I mean?
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_01: And that was amazing for us, you know.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_01: So I feel like the city is it's growing culturally as well, you know?
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_01: Because I I feel like it's relatively compared to like Lane, New York, Chicago is like a is like a young city, you know?
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_01: And we still got a long way to go, but it's growing culturally, and I and I love like you know how we're going, you know, and I love that we represent the city, you know.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_02: So when you started this, taking it back to 2009, Emmy, you specifically, did you think all of this would happen?
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_01: Honestly, I don't know.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_02: I I mean You can you can you can be humble, but you can you can own your confidence a little bit.
• 36:50
  SPEAKER_01: Listen, I I I had a vision and I had a lot of confidence when I called Camilo, you know, because I felt like he was the guy that we were like together we were gonna make that happen, you know?
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we I did have, like I said, I had a vision.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_01: I had, you know, like I had an idea of what we were gonna do.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_01: I felt like if we did things right, if we did things with our heart, if we did things that we really like with the passion and that we loved, it would take us many places.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_01: Uh it's taken us to a lot of places.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_01: I can never say, oh yeah, I knew we were gonna do that or this.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't, right?
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_01: But I knew that if we did it the right way, we were gonna accomplish many things.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like we have accomplished, we still got a lot of things more to accomplish, but I feel like we we've done a lot, you know, and and I, you know.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_02: I love it, you know.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_02: That sets the table perfectly for my next question.
• 37:45
  SPEAKER_02: And that is what can fans expect for the remainder of 2025 from you guys?
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_01: Well, well, our the idea is to uh keep releasing music, uh keep performing.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, you know, 2025 was a good year for us.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_01: It was the first time we we performed at 4 million one F1.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we did amazing, they loved us.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um we have uh a lot of really amazing events uh coming up, and just recording right, you know what I mean?
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's what we love to do.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_01: Uh like Camilo said, our our our recordings are one thing, and our live show is like explosive.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_01: You know, people like you know, like after the show, that's what we love the most.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_01: Like, oh my god, who the fuck are you guys?
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, we're like, oh my god, thank you.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_01: That's why we do what we do, you know, because no shit.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_02: When I when I started this episode and I was telling you the story about my wife and I on that drive, some of my most favorite recordings that we were listening to were some of the things.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, we want to know, yeah.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, the live were your live sessions.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_02: I'm sorry.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, like the sugar shack sessions and all of that stuff.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's it's because the organic nature of how music translates not live versus just in the studio, like you actually feel like you're there.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_02: When I was younger, I would listen to live albums, and I'm like, okay, I'd rather listen to the the record version.
• 39:10
  SPEAKER_02: As an older gentleman, now I'm the total opposite.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, man.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like, dude, that is so cool.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's so cool that you said that.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_01: And now that I think about it, you know, a lot of times, like when you get asked questions, you're like, oh damn, you know.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_01: So now that I think about it, that live album, Camila, that we have is from 2015.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_01: We gotta do something, we gotta do another one.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_01: Because I feel like we've evolved so much, we've grown so much time, you know.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's we're like almost like another band, like in a good way.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know where we gotta record at the Green Parrot?
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_02: Oh man, that would be crazy.
• 39:47
  SPEAKER_02: Ladies and gentlemen, you heard it here first, and your new friend caught on the mic, Mike Clark, needs to be mentioned in them liner notes.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_01: It's all done.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna give you a shout out.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_00: They've been amazing to us.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we recently played at the venue, at their brand new venue.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's amazing.
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_00: We had a blast.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, they really put us on, man, and they really they really uh showed us love a lot.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, they got us involved, you know, they uh they helped us to be involved with uh Reggie Rise Up as well.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_00: We did a set for them at Regio Rise Up.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, I think I think I think more in store for us is you know more more live energy, more live recordings.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um uh studio's great.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I'm saying?
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, do doing stuff in the studio is awesome because you have more of like a like a like a liberty or a freedom.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_00: You don't you don't have to rely on like five or six guys, you know, at a time, you know, to to do stuff in the studio.
• 40:47
  SPEAKER_00: And we cook up a lot of us stuff in the studio and then we bring it to the band and we're like, hey, you know, check this out.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_00: We got this, you know, let's let's flesh this out, let's give this, you know, a live sound or whatever.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, I think that's I think just you know our our formula has been working for us, and I think just keeping up with that, keeping doing more of this of that and switching it up and keeping it original and fresh as well.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_00: I think I see ours, you know, doing doing that, you know, uh in in the rest of the year and in and and towards 2026 and beyond, you know.
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_02: And kind of on that note, real quick pitch from each one of you when people leave an experimental show, what's one feeling or hope that you have for people in the audience to walk away and carry with them?
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_00: We want to blow them away.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: Blow them away.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_00: I want people to be like, damn, I gotta buy new shoes after this.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_00: My shits are gone.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like my souls are fucking gone.
• 41:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we take pride in people dancing, moving, jumping.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_02: Oh man, I love that.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_02: I love that.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_02: Guys, I have had so much fun hanging out with you dudes, like for real.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_02: I hope we can do it in the real world.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_02: My closing question, my most favorite question to ask every single guest on my show, because as we talked about before we pressed record, I like to create my podcast as a form of escape for people, much like you guys do with your music, right?
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_02: There's so much going on in the world that we like can easily leave us sour every day.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_02: Optimism rules everything, right?
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_02: So, what is your advice for making the world a better place tomorrow than what it is today?
• 42:36
  SPEAKER_02: You guys can go one at a time.
• 42:38
  SPEAKER_02: I would love to hear your takes.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_01: For me, it's simple.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like uh we gotta start loving more and we start we gotta start getting closer to the people that we love.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_01: Do everything with passion.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_01: Uh follow your heart, don't follow your your head so much, and you'll be fine in this world, you know.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_01: But love, I think love is love rules, man.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I I think the same way.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_00: I think, you know, um I think people, you know, we have to treat people good.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's all about how you treat others, treat others how you want to be treated.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um, like like Emmy said, you know, look look for love.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_00: I know a lot, you know, a lot of people, especially younger generations, they think love is corny and it's like, oh, whatever.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, it it's it's really true.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, love is a big force, and and I think that, you know, uh treating people well, you know, sticking close to your loved ones, sticking close to your family, um, and just really like believing in yourself and knowing that it's possible, especially now more than ever, to do what you love and to be okay in the world.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like you don't have to be stuck to, you know, a slave job or some type of job that you don't love.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_00: Uh do what you love, it's possible, you know what I mean?
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_00: And stay positive and and just yeah, everything will will work out if you do those things.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_01: And enjoy the moment.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_01: Enjoy them like this moment, dude.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: I had so much fun, and you treated us with so much love that I'm super happy you made our day.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_02: Oh man, likewise, likewise, man.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_02: Guys, tell my audience where they can find you online.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_00: Check us out at expedimentomusic.com.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_00: We're on also Instagram as we are expedimental expedimento with the letter X up front.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_00: And uh, and yeah, uh look us up online.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_02: Emmy Karazzi, man, you guys made my day too.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_02: This has been so much fun.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, I am so hopeful that we can run into each other in the real world.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, thank you so much for doing the podcast.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_02: Likewise, Mike.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_02: The world's a much better place with you guys in it.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks, man.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, sweet.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_01: You're awesome, dude.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for having us.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_01: We love being here, dude.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_01: For real.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_02: Once again, I want to thank my friends Emmy and Karazzi for doing the show.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_02: I had so much fun chatting with those dudes.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_02: I want to go hang out with them.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_02: I gotta make it a point to go to Miami soon.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_02: Follow them on social media at WeArexperimento.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's experimental with an X.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_02: And uh check out their music online wherever you can, as soon as you can.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_02: I wanna give a big shout out to our friend David Parnes for making the connection possible.
• 45:18
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• 45:26
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• 45:32
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• 45:45
  SPEAKER_02: This has been Caught on the Mic with Michael Clark.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_02: I'm Michael Clark.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_02: Until next time, thank you.