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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 259 | Analyzing "Punch Each Other in the Face" Rivalry w/ Texans, Late-Game Antics in Week 5 · Jags A.M.

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Jags AM from the Hyundai Library at the
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  Speaker 1: Grove outside of London, where we're still trying to figure
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  Speaker 1: out whether it was Professor Plum or Mrs. Green and
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  Speaker 1: the candlestick or the wrench. Feels like a live set
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  Speaker 1: of Clue when we sit here every year, and I
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  Speaker 1: love it. It's fun stuff. The show is brought to
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  Speaker 1: you by our friends at GEHA. GEHA, Government Employees Health Association.
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  Speaker 1: Brent Martineau joins us. Although you've got a show of
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  Speaker 1: your own to do at some point today. Hopefully we
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  Speaker 1: can give you a couple of good ideas to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: Give me a few topics. Yeah, we'll give that to you.
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  Speaker 1: And you all know the senior writer, John Ogier, who
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  Speaker 1: is haunting about this place like he owns it.
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  Speaker 2: I did, by the way. In a clip. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'll just confess right now. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So let's get right to big things. And
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  Speaker 1: we'll start with number one, which is Bullseye.
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  Speaker 2: Listen.
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  Speaker 1: The Texans are coming in here thinking that they can
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  Speaker 1: completely right their season if they hit the mark on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: No matter that they just beat the winless Titans, they're
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  Speaker 1: a talented team who's getting healthier. It's gotten a little
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  Speaker 1: more talented, perhaps, if you think that Marvin Harrison Jr.
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  Speaker 1: can help them this week. And you can't help but
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  Speaker 1: think that they understand two and four, we can manage.
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  Speaker 1: One and five, probably can't. So their whole season appears
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  Speaker 1: to be sitting right here on the table on Sunday
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  Speaker 1: at Wembley Stadium.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a big believer in this league, Brad. I
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  Speaker 2: think you are too. Belief, focus, motivation matters very much.
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  Speaker 2: all teams still have it in October. It's why the
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  Speaker 2: early season games are almost always in doubt going into it. Um,
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  Speaker 2: all the Texans have to do is, is reference last year.
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  Speaker 2: D'Amico Ryan's doesn't have a very hard message to send. It's, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: you saw last year, we can get back in this
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  Speaker 2: thing and beating the Jaguars is a way to close
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  Speaker 2: this gap. Keep us in it. It can be our springboard. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think they will, but that's their belief.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they should have some belief, too, because they can
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  Speaker 3: close that gap, build the momentum, as you mentioned. And
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  Speaker 3: the other thing that I believe is if you're going
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  Speaker 3: to make the playoffs, you win your home games and
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  Speaker 3: you have a pretty good division record. And so this
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  Speaker 3: is the start of.
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  Speaker 1: That for the Jags.
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  Speaker 3: And this is a home game. So you obviously got
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  Speaker 3: off to a good start with New England and Cleveland.
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  Speaker 3: You'd like to continue to win in your home schedule
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  Speaker 3: and then get off to this really good start because
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  Speaker 3: we know at Houston will be very difficult. We figure
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  Speaker 3: that Indianapolis series could be tricky. Tennessee, obviously, could favor
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  Speaker 3: the Jags in a big-time way.
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  Speaker 1: Let's flip your argument real quick. D'Amico Ryan has a
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  Speaker 1: pretty easy runway to get that argument off the ground. So, too,
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  Speaker 1: you would think Liam Cohen does, right? Last week, he
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  Speaker 1: tried to tell everybody, the Eagles are going to come
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  Speaker 1: in here and be a very difficult team to play,
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  Speaker 1: despite the fact that Saquon Barkley and Devonta Smith are
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  Speaker 1: not playing. Jonathan Grenard is inactive on game day. he's
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  Speaker 1: got that, and he's got the fact, hey, listen, 19 points, guys.
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  Speaker 1: We had a chance to put them down last year.
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  Speaker 1: They were 3-5. We let them up off the mat
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  Speaker 1: last year, and we had to chase them, or they
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  Speaker 1: had to chase us, all the way to the division title.
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  Speaker 2: Look, Trevor, when he was talking to the podium yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: I was asked, is that still a thing? And he said,
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  Speaker 2: it's not something they talk about. It may not be
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  Speaker 2: something they talk about, but at some point, it'll come up,
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  Speaker 2: or you'll think about it, It's too fresh. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: want to say traumatic because they clearly overcame it. It
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  Speaker 2: was a springboard. But you know, beyond even that game,
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  Speaker 2: the fact that it is a real rivalry, it's a
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  Speaker 2: punch-each-other-in-the-face rivalry, I can't imagine there's not a high level
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  Speaker 2: of motivation and that it will be very, very... it'll
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  Speaker 2: be a very ready, motivated team Sunday.
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  Speaker 3: Well, in many ways, it was a thank you note
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  Speaker 3: to Houston for doing that because it's changed the organization.
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  Speaker 3: They've won 12 out of 13 regular season games. It
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  Speaker 3: was the Volcom last year, but Trevor might've downplayed it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think Liam Cohen downplayed it on Wednesday. I
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  Speaker 3: thought he kind of was like, Hey, we're.
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  Speaker 2: Well, he talked about the rivalry. Trevor talked about the game.
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  Speaker 2: Trevor was asked about the game itself.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think anybody in the building, this is the South
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  Speaker 2: rivalry right now. You know, uh, The Colts are in it,
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  Speaker 2: but between the hit in 24, everything involved, this is
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  Speaker 2: a real rivalry because these two teams have hurt each
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  Speaker 2: other in the last year. You have to hurt each
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  Speaker 2: other for it to be a rivalry.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, not only that, too.
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  Speaker 3: This defense comes in heralded, even though they gave up
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  Speaker 3: 109 points in the first month of the season. And
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  Speaker 3: nobody's really talking about the Jags defense a lot.
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  Speaker 1: They have a chance there.
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  Speaker 3: So there's a bunch of different tentacles here that make this,
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  Speaker 3: I think, one of the biggest games of the season.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I was surprised it was over here in
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  Speaker 3: London when the schedule came out.
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  Speaker 1: I think it is. Let's hear from the head coach
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  Speaker 1: since you mentioned him on this rivalry in last year.
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  Speaker 5: Obviously, have a tough feeling in our stomachs from the
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  Speaker 5: last time we played against these guys and know that
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  Speaker 5: every time that you line up against this team, it's
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  Speaker 5: going to be a fight. It's going to be a brawl.
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  Speaker 5: And so that's what's great about football. That's what's great
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  Speaker 5: about rivalries is that you have a level of respect
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  Speaker 5: for each other, right? Because, you know, any given Sunday,
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  Speaker 5: anything can happen, especially in rivalry type games and understanding
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  Speaker 5: what you can learn from each of these opportunities that
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  Speaker 5: you play against one another in and how well you
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  Speaker 5: start to get to know each other in ways in
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  Speaker 5: terms of what they want to do, what we want
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  Speaker 5: to do. And that's the cat and mouse game. That's
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  Speaker 5: the game within the game that you have to play.
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  Speaker 1: So the head coach is not letting go of it,
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  Speaker 1: and hopefully the Jaguars don't either. Let's move on to
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  Speaker 1: big thing two. We'll call it line dancing. The Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: this week having to shuffle things around. They were doing
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  Speaker 1: it all throughout the course of August, and we heard, well,
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be a strength at some point.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to understand what we've got and who can
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  Speaker 1: play where, and that's what you've got. You've got Walker
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  Speaker 1: Little stepping out into the role that Anton Harrison vacates
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  Speaker 1: with his knee injury. And that's a big one now
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  Speaker 1: because you've got Daniil Hunter over there who had seven
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  Speaker 1: quarterback pressures in Nashville last week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, listen, this is a challenging part of it right
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  Speaker 3: now for the Jags. We don't know how.
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  Speaker 1: Good Colvin Lennon is playing, Ezra Cleveland on the right side.
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  Speaker 1: And now you put Walker Little over there for a
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  Speaker 1: tall task.
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  Speaker 3: He says he's excited because he's going against his hometown
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  Speaker 3: team in Houston. He's experienced it. Trevor, trust him. There's
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  Speaker 3: all those good things happening. He's never played next to
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  Speaker 3: Emmanuel Pregnant in a game. And Pregnant's coming off a
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  Speaker 3: three-hold game. So I think there are a lot of
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  Speaker 3: concerns and questions just because you're going against Houston, but
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  Speaker 3: also just in general. Like, where is this offensive line
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  Speaker 3: right now? Where will it be in a few weeks, John?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think if any of the 31 teams... They
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  Speaker 2: were playing the Texans. This is the storyline. Can the
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  Speaker 2: offensive line hold up no matter how good or bad
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  Speaker 2: your offensive line is? Because I think most Jaguars fans,
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  Speaker 2: my last memory of the Houston Texans up close was
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  Speaker 2: them rolling last season on the Jaguars offensive line. And
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  Speaker 2: they have that feeling of being able to overpower and overwhelm.
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  Speaker 2: I think with that being such a storyline and such
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  Speaker 2: a focus, I think the Jaguars will figure out a
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  Speaker 2: way to get them blocked enough to make plays. But
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  Speaker 2: it's absolutely– the Walker Little thing is why they approach
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  Speaker 2: training camp the way they do, meaning they've always rotated
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  Speaker 2: in and out to be ready. All that's great, but
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  Speaker 2: he's going to need help, and I think you'll see
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  Speaker 2: schemes offensively designed to help a lot of guys because
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  Speaker 2: they've already talked about the 11. You need an 11.
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  Speaker 2: You need a package. It's going to take a team
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  Speaker 2: effort to counter– it's not only the Texans' strength, It
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  Speaker 2: may be one of the strongest units that any team
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  Speaker 2: has in the league, the Texans' ability to rush the quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Let's hear from the quarterback about his left tackle, the
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  Speaker 1: guy he has to trust with his blind side the most.
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  Speaker 4: That position, I've seen just over my career how important that,
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  Speaker 4: if you want to call it swing tackle, spot is.
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  Speaker 4: It's just, you know, unfortunately, obviously... Tonson be out. It
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  Speaker 4: happens in this league, and injuries happen. It's an unfortunate
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  Speaker 4: part of it, and just seeing how important it is
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  Speaker 4: to have a guy that can step up, and Walker's
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  Speaker 4: shown that he can do that.
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  Speaker 1: I've played a lot of football with him. Trust him.
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  Speaker 1: He had a great day today.
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  Speaker 4: He seems ready to go, and he's been locked in
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  Speaker 4: the whole season in case his number gets called, so
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  Speaker 4: I don't have any hesitations about him.
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  Speaker 1: The left tackle can be his best friend, and the
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  Speaker 1: other guy he really needs is the coach. They have
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  Speaker 1: got to Find a way, you mentioned scheme, to get
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  Speaker 1: the quick throws and move on because these guys get
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  Speaker 1: pressure faster than anyone else in the league. 2.48 seconds
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  Speaker 1: to pressure is the fastest. Stay on schedule.
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  Speaker 3: I'll give you one other guy. I think this could be.
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  Speaker 3: We haven't heard much from him so far this year.
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  Speaker 3: He was a big talking point last year. LaQuinn Allen.
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  Speaker 2: Sure.
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  Speaker 3: LaQuinn Allen chipping. I mean, do we see that show up?
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  Speaker 3: And I know that's sometimes on certain downs. I get it,
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  Speaker 3: but you want to be physical. He was a big
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  Speaker 3: reason why you were last year against some of these
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  Speaker 3: big teams and big edge rushers. Here in Jacksonville, we've
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  Speaker 3: faced a lot of defensive tackles that have been very
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  Speaker 3: good so far. This could be a Laquan Allen game, too,
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  Speaker 3: to keep an eye on.
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  Speaker 2: Even beyond the pass blocking, Bashell Tootin's what? He's been
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  Speaker 2: between 70 and 80 every week. It seems like he's
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  Speaker 2: right in that. Don't you just kind of feel that
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  Speaker 2: this is a game where you can get him sprung?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's the Bashell Tootin. I don't want to say
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  Speaker 2: breakout because he's played very well. Right. But maybe it's
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  Speaker 2: the breakout beyond the 75-yard barrier.
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  Speaker 1: He might have had that last week had they not
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  Speaker 1: had a couple of holding penalties that called back some
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  Speaker 1: significant runs. Almost had it against Cincinnati. The other side
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  Speaker 1: of the coin, too, is as big a friend as
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  Speaker 1: Walker Little and the coaching staff is to Trevor, so, too,
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  Speaker 1: is Basial, too. let's wrap up big things here on
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  Speaker 1: a thursday with rate increase look they need to get
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  Speaker 1: pressure obviously on cj stroud but the difference between pressure
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  Speaker 1: and blitzing is distinct with this guy when you get
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  Speaker 1: to him with pressure his numbers, his completion percentage, his
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  Speaker 1: yards per attempt are significantly lower than when you attack
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  Speaker 1: him with the blitz, which doesn't seem to make a
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  Speaker 1: lot of sense. But last week, he was 9 of
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  Speaker 1: 10 under pressure and is a guy, CJ Stroud, who
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  Speaker 1: has not thrown an interception or turned the ball over
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  Speaker 1: since that playoff game where he threw four picks in
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  Speaker 1: New England last year. He has gotten progressively better, even
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  Speaker 1: better with Nico Collins back in the lineup, but you
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  Speaker 1: can't blitz him, he is the number one quarterback in
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  Speaker 1: the league against the blitz so far. The four you've
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  Speaker 1: got have got to get there predominantly.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it tells you that they're doing a good job
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  Speaker 2: of identifying the blitz and beating the defense when it
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  Speaker 2: has an extra man coming. He's been much better in
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  Speaker 2: the first four or five games than I thought he
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  Speaker 2: would be. He's sometimes prone to throwing the picks. It
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  Speaker 2: makes you wonder how much they're protecting that. And Also,
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  Speaker 2: the Jaguars have two superpowers defensively. One is the ability
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  Speaker 2: to stop the run. The other is the ability, once
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  Speaker 2: they've gotten the run stopped, to be looking at the
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  Speaker 2: quarterback and taking advantage of the possibilities. I think this
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  Speaker 2: is a week where the Jaguars get at least one
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  Speaker 2: off C.J.
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  Speaker 4: Stroud.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like the Jags' pressure, even with the four,
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  Speaker 3: has been better than the numbers indicate, at least what
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  Speaker 3: the eye test shows me. Getting the quarterback on the
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  Speaker 3: ground has been a different story. But I even feel
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  Speaker 3: like last week a row, row, row had some good rushes.
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  Speaker 3: We're seeing Devon Hamilton in the rush game now, not
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  Speaker 3: just stopping the run in the penetration game. So I
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  Speaker 3: think this adds up to maybe a couple of mistakes, hopefully,
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  Speaker 3: from C.J.
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  Speaker 1: Stroud.
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  Speaker 3: The thing about Stroud, and I think Liam Cohen said it,
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  Speaker 3: and he's right on, he's playing with confidence.
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  Speaker 1: And it's a confident position, right? You better be. He
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  Speaker 1: wasn't last year. He is right now. He also gets
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  Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Jr. involved. Maybe that gives him even a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more confidence. You have to break that confidence
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. somewhere early in that game, in my opinion.
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  Speaker 2: Pressuring early and breaking that comment is what he said
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  Speaker 2: is absolutely key.
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  Speaker 1: He's tough to sack because what the Texans like to
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  Speaker 1: do is move the pocket, right? So it's not like
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  Speaker 1: you're attacking a spot on the field like you would
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  Speaker 1: with most quarterbacks, like Joe Burrow. They're moving the pocket
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  Speaker 1: strategically to give him some flexibility and confidence, which means
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars' rushers have got to be on their game.
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  Speaker 1: That's big things. When we return... we will look at
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  Speaker 1: clock management, game management, and the importance last week and
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: the importance every week in professional football. Brent Martin is
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  Speaker 1: with us for one more segment here on Jags AM
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  Speaker 1: from London. And we're back at the Grove outside London,
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars' home away from home for another year. It
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: has been a wonderful week. At least it has from
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  Speaker 1: my perspective.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's a great place. Jaguars have outstanding food. They walk
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  Speaker 1: right across the street to the practice facility, across the
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  Speaker 1: parking lot. Actually, not even the street. And you just
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: get a sense of how much work they can get
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  Speaker 1: done when they're all together all week long.
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 1: More time. There's nothing to do here but work for
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  Speaker 1: a couple of days. That's true.
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the weather's been awesome, so can't complain.
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  Speaker 2: Not that awesome. You're ready to go skiing.
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  Speaker 1: I know. It's all about the logo, John. Did you
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: golf this week? Did you make it to the golf course?
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  Speaker 3: I've been doing this for how many years now and
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: still never made it to that golf course, other than.
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  Speaker 1: To walk around it. And it's a championship course, too.
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  Speaker 1: It's a really nice course. I thought this week we
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  Speaker 1: would talk a little bit about clock management, since it
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  Speaker 1: was such a big issue at the end of the
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  Speaker 1: game last week. I just want to remind people of
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  Speaker 1: a couple of key plays. And let's start. We've got
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  Speaker 1: the highlights of this. Parker Washington's punt return at 2-14
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  Speaker 1: left to go in the ballgame. And what's important about
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  Speaker 1: this one is the Eagles were hoping to get the
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  Speaker 1: ball back to run a play before the two-minute warning.
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  Speaker 1: And you see what Parker does here. Really heads up
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  Speaker 1: coaching and performing by Parker as he's just milking the
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  Speaker 1: clock and he goes out of bounds at 1-59 and
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  Speaker 1: they have to go to the two-minute warning. I think
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  Speaker 1: as most people watched that, they weren't paying attention to it.
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  Speaker 1: But that's an important moment in the game. Game within
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  Speaker 1: a game, John. So good. I mean, that's just great stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And I also think it shows how slow the game
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  Speaker 3: is right now for Parker Washington.
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  Speaker 2: And I think what you just said is exactly right. He's, what,
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  Speaker 2: now in his fourth year and is aware enough, just
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  Speaker 2: like Amir Abdul at the end of the game, right?
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  Speaker 2: Aware enough of situations to be able to not only
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  Speaker 2: feel it, but calmly execute it. Shows you how the
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  Speaker 2: game can change, too. It was a big play and
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  Speaker 2: a good play. And then it sort of almost cost
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  Speaker 2: him at the end, right? And you can't predict the
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  Speaker 2: way that game ended. But, you know, what you're doing
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: with clock management usually is you are trying to increase
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  Speaker 2: your percentage chances of success in a situation. You can
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  Speaker 2: never predict how the ball is going to bounce in
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  Speaker 2: this league. But incredibly heady play by Parker Washington.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and here's another one, and it's not so heady
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  Speaker 1: for the— the Eagles, Makai Lemon, the rookie receiver, ran
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  Speaker 1: out of bounds, caught the pass with 21 seconds left
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  Speaker 1: to play. If he stays down in bounds, then perhaps
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  Speaker 1: the clock runs. The Jaguars are forced to burn their
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  Speaker 1: time out, and all of a sudden you don't have
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  Speaker 1: enough time. They're able to kick the field goal at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the game. But you see, it's an
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  Speaker 1: out-breaking route as opposed to an in-breaking route, and so
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  Speaker 1: his momentum is carrying him that way anyway. And he's
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  Speaker 1: a rookie and probably just not heads up enough, doesn't
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: understand what's going on enough. to be able to stay
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: in bounds. He just wanted to catch the ball.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: It would have been a great play for a rookie
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: to have realized in that moment because there is an
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: element here of it's a hard game, and you're playing fast.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: I've joked with some people in analyzing these games the
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: last couple weeks. Yes, we can analyze it, but I've
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: never been in that situation. You're moving that fast. You're
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: getting hit. You're trying to get down. Maybe he was
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: trying to get down and just all of a sudden
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: couldn't in that moment. Uh, so, but to your point,
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: veteran player in that situation, maybe is able to be
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: a foot over to the left.
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: Well, I also think they're in between there. They're not
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: just sitting on the clock. They were being aggressive to
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: get closer than a 51 yard field goal. And so
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: even as a young player, any player, you're like, well,
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: we're being aggressive here.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Let's get out of bounds. Maybe we want one more play.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: So you just don't know what's communicated and obviously young
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: versus veteran player. But I think they were in a
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: bit of a pickle on, do we want to settle
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: for a 51-yarder or do we want a 42-yarder?
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Well, listen, the other part of that is that Anthony Campanile,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars defensive coordinator, is playing cover zero. He's enticing
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: them with a compressed field and a lot of bodies
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: in the blocks. He's enticing them to throw the ball there.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: And they did exactly what he wanted, and it just
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: so happened that Mekhi Lemon ran out of bounds. And
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: so that brings us now to the fact that at
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: the end of the ballgame, two plays, and there were
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: probably two others somewhere along the way, where the Jaguars
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: had an opportunity to return. And time management, again, we
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: hear about from the head coach and his special teams coordinator.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: Amir Abdullah is looking for the clock, which is not
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: as easy to find at Tottenham as it is at
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: some other stadiums. He's looking to get his knee down
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: at one. That's great coaching.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was just a guest on the Ozone podcast,
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: which taped right before this show. And he said, I
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: was expecting them to kick it into the end zone.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: And then once they didn't, it's interesting, he went through
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: a lot of the things that you think about, and
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: he talked about having a checklist, Brent. And it was
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: fascinating because you realize, yes, there's this moment, and we
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: can sit in the press box and go through it.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: They're having to pull up. the coaching points of that moment,
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: at that individual moment, only having a few seconds to
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: do it, I'm not sure a rookie makes the play
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: in that moment. that maybe the 12th-year guy does.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: I think the hardest thing to do in that moment
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: is once he broke free and by the kicker, it's like, well,
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: now I can go, though.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I might be able to return this thing.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: So you've got to still calculate that along with the
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: clock getting down. I mean, it's a heady play by
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Amir Abdullah. There's a little bit of luck involved in
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: some of this that happened with the Jags. That's what
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: percentages are, right?
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: You're trying to increase your percentage, but you're still relying
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: on the fact that It may not play right into
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: what you're doing.
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: And I'm not sure, guys, what the percentage is on
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: any of the plays that the Eagles would have tried.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Kicking it through the end zone, Jags running a crazy play,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: or this that happened, or kicking it out of bounds.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: They might all be similar.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: And this one was. 001.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Very slim margin, sir. And it's worth pointing out here
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: as we watch, because who isn't eager to see this
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: play one more time? The field goal from Cam Little.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: That the Jaguars have a staff of coaches, John Dykema,
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Shane Waldron, that work all week on scenarios. And they
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: will look at this game. They will look at other
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: games around the NFL. They looked at the game in Rio, right? Yeah, yeah.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Against between the Cowboys and the Ravens that a lot
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: of people have pointed to this week. And they are
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: constantly evaluating, learning, processing, and putting together points. Even through
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: the course of a game. You're trying to manage the
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: times out. You're trying to manage the clock. You're trying
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: to manage every aspect of it. You can field position.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: So it's the mental side of the game.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: And it's a remarkable kind of meshing is the right
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: word that I'm looking for. You do all that. And
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: that is at a scientific level beyond anything that it
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: was when I was growing up watching the NFL. And
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: yet you do that. And I keep saying, I keep
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: saying the same percentages at some point, The players still
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: have to go out there and react in the moment.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: And like Amir Abdullah, well-coached. But once he's at that
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: 45-yard line, it's not about coaching anymore. It's about the feel.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: It's about having a sense of the game. Well-coached. Once
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: it's out there, Cam Little still has to adapt to
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: the high snap stuff to be in the moment. Still
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: a player's game. And I thought that was... Unbelievable execution
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: at the end by those guys.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: I think the one thing people haven't mentioned at all
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: is the fact that Philly is aware that he can
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: kick at 70 yards. So if they put the ball
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: to 35, you really just need 15 yards. I know
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: you got to get out of bounds, all that stuff,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: but it's not like you need 30 yards going down
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: the field. That's what he brings to the table is
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: that people are now game planning and thinking because Cam
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Little's got such a big leg. And, I mean, just
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: what a moment. And don't you get the feel when
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: he comes out there that he's going to make it?
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Like the Cam Little vibe to me, whether it's in
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: a preseason game or whether it's in this moment.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: Is like, I think he's going to make this.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny. He's had a few hiccups in the
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: low 50s, right? But you get the idea that he's
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: money if it gets above about 55. Yeah. Because he's
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: almost playing with house money, and he knows it's what
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: he does. He's comfortable with the whole thing. I thought
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: the most interesting thing he said all week, I guess
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: it was after the game, was about how he's not
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: really a kicker. He was talking about young college kickers
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: who all try to do the same thing over and
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: over again, the repetition. And all that's important. But he
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: also talked about he figured out in college, sometimes you
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: just got to go kick it in the circumstance. I
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: think that helped him with the Devon situation. Cam wasn't
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: worried about everything being perfect on Sunday.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: He was worried about getting the ball through the uprights.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: And it sounds like the same thing, but I think
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: in his mind, it was like, look, everything's going wild. I,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to kick the ball.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Less robotic and more feel is what he kind of referenced.
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: More like you would in golf or something. Just feel
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: around the greens. And he does that.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I think that served him well in that moment.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: You bet it did. Absolutely. Brent, thanks for joining us.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Appreciate it. You got to go show. Good to be here.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Do your own show. So John and I will soldier on.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: We appreciate you. You bet. Have a good day. We
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: are back with more from the Grove outside London. After
• 22:25
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• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Ogier with you here for a segment we call If.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: We say the Jaguars will win if. And John, you
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: and I and Brent, before he left, contributed. So we'll
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: go with if number one, and I think this one
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: was yours. The Jaguars will win if they beat the Texans'
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: pass rush.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's not every game comes down to
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: one thing. I guess this one doesn't, but this feels
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: like the biggest thing to me. I mean, anybody who
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: follows the Jags has that nightmare memory last year of
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars just not being able to block them and
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: of Will Anderson looking like the toughest man on the field.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: He's a great player. He's So if they can counter that,
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: and I keep saying, at some point in this game,
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: they're going to get to Trevor Lawrence. You'd be surprised
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: if it's one of those sackless games. But the Jaguars'
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: offensive line is also really good at creating opportunities, getting
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: them blocked. The other day, Philadelphia's getting pressure. But they
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: got them blocked a few times, and Trevor in that
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: moment took advantage of getting it to Parker, took advantage
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: of getting it to Parker again. To me, this game's
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: going to be decided on when they get them blocked
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: and when they get Trevor comfortable. Do they have the
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: right thing dialed up? And does Trevor Lawrence make the
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: play in the moment? He's gotten to the point where
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: he's exceptionally good at that.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Worth pointing out that on the fourth and five touchdown
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: throw to Parker Washington that we've all been admiring all
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: week long, it was the best pocket he had all day.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: And he took advantage of the moment. He's got to
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: take advantage of the moments where he gets time. Because
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: in the NFL, you're going to play teams... that are
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: good at something that you can't stop every time. The
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Texan superpower is getting to the quarterback. They're going to
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: get there. When you get them stopped, you've got to
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: make the play.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: That'll bring us to if number two, and that was
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: from Brent. His was if they win the turnovers. And
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: that's not just protecting, as you mentioned, and making sure
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: that you don't give away possessions against this defense, but
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: it's also doing something to C.J. Stroud to force him
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: to throw you the ball. to create opportunities to get
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: extra possessions against a very talented defense.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's also, I think, the turnover circumstance. Meaning,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: like Trevor last week had a turnover where he threw
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: it downfield to BTJ. That was really a punt, right?
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: So I think you need to pick Stroud. You need
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: to get turnovers. You also need to get the turnovers
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: that matter most. And once you get them, you've got
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: to turn them into points. You can't just get turnovers
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: and say, hey, it's great, we got it. Can you
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: make it hurt that you got the turnover? I think
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: they will. I think that's the Jaguars' defense's superpower. I
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: think the odds will catch up to C.J. Stroud, and
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: I think he throws him one this week.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: If you recall, the Jaguars in Houston last year did
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: take advantage of some turnovers to create some points, and
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: last year they led the league with 110 points off
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: of turnovers. This year, On their eight takeaways, they have
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: 38 points also, very near the top of the league.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, Brian, against this team, I think you
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: really need the turnovers. That was how they got the
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: lead last year. It wasn't like they had dominated that
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: game on a line of scrimmage plays. They had gotten
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: some circumstances. They got Lee Parker at the long return.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: So you've got to take advantage of some moments to
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: get up on a defense like this.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: All right, our final if here on Jags AM is
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: if the Jaguars– win on first down. You can't overestimate,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: exaggerate exactly how important first down is. The Jaguars have
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: been getting about 4.3 yards per rush this year on
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: first down. They've got to stay ahead of the change.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: A successful run is anything greater than four yards on
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: first down. They've got to have a high success rate
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: to stay balanced so that they just can't let 51
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: and 55 tee off against those tackles.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think inside of this point because this
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: is your point i think it goes hand in hand
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: with you can't have pre-snap stuff yeah like everything sort
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: of plays in got to run well on first down
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: you cannot put yourself in situations where you're trying to
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: pick up second and 12 on this team right because
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: they'll laugh and start.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Getting after you it feels like a holding penalty right
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: we saw one last week basial tune at a nine
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: yard run it was a beautiful run But all of
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: a sudden, it's first and 19. That's like a turnover
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: against this defense. That's like a turnover.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: You can't do it against any team. You're really playing
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: into what they think they are and what they are.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: The Jaguars, we think, win if they beat the Texans'
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: pass rush, if they win the turnover battle, and if
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: they win on first down. When we come back to Jags,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and we'll wrap it up with Monday's headlines today. We'll
• 27:39
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• 27:55
  Speaker 1: for Monday's headlines. Today, our attempt to predict the ballgame
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and to share it with you through what we think
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Monday's headlines will be. Give you Brent Martineau's first since
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: he had to leave, and he says 2-2.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: I don't understand what that means.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: Well, I probably do. Do you not have your Toot
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Toot shirt?
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Toot Toot, okay.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Basialtootin.com, I think, is the website. He believes that Basial
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Tootin is going to have a breakout game, which is
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: a bold statement against this defense because they're number two
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: against the run.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: It is, but the Jaguars have been close on this.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: You feel like they're really going to emphasize it. You
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: feel like it's going to break out. If Brent's right,
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: if it's a Toot Toot day. Yeah. then they'll be tooting,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: tooting on the way home.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: One thing to note, 60% of his yards so far
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: this year have come after contact. You think that's a
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Chris Rodriguez number, because you just look at the size
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: difference between the two. He is a tough, smart runner.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: And Brent Martineau says 2-2. How about you, John?
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: I went with flexing and in first. And I think
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: they solidify their spot atop the AFC South I was
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: trying to get to this and probably didn't quite do
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: it in the headline. What's cool about this rivalry, everybody
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: thinks about the Texans being a tough team nationally. That's
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: sort of their image. I don't know if the Jaguars'
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: toughness is as acknowledged from a national point of view,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: but this is going to be a 1970s, 1980s type,
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: hit you in the mouth. I expect there to be
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: the referee to standing at the 50 saying, hey, we
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: have unsportsmanlike on both teams, warning them off of something
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: early because they will scrap. The Jaguars, the Texans identify
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: as tough, but the Jaguars identify, I mean, they believe
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: in that just as strongly, if not stronger. So I
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: think it's going to be a knockdown drag out. And
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: I think when they win, they'll be flexing in first.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Hopefully we don't have that penalty after the opening kickoff.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what you don't want. And I'm not making
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: light of it. I'm not saying you need to do it,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: but this is a team mentality. Historically, uh, these teams
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: don't like each other. Uh, when one pushes, the other
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: is going to push back. And, uh, if there's a
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: perception out there that the Texans are somehow the tougher team,
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: it's not a perception the Jaguars believe, nor should they.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: All right. And I finished it up with the South Royalty.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: And I'm not thinking about the crown and the scepter
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: in the hands of Trevor Lawrence. I was kind of
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: thinking of the shot with him with the grills and
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: the gold and the diamonds. I mean, it's This team
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: believes that they are as good as everyone thinks they are.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: And they want to go prove it against this Texans team.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: And let's be honest, the Texans have owned this series
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: going all the way back to 2002, which was their
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: expansion season. They have had the better of this rivalry,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: especially since 2017. The Jaguars have had a fight and
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: scratch for every win. Jaguars want to turn that around
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: this year. They want to prove they're the best team
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: in the division and make the Texans chase them.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think we always look at it from
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars' perspective, which is what our job is. But
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I'm sure from the Texans' perspective, they have this idea of, hey,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: we beat them last year. They won the South, but
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: the Texans, I'm sure, felt like, hey, we beat them here.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: We're the better team. I'm sure their philosophy is they
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: have to come beat us. There's no lack of confidence
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: with the Texans. So the Jaguars need to, you know,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: They're feeling in reverse. They want to prove to the Texans, hey,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: we deserve that. We're the best team. It's really cool, right, Brian?
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: We've been doing this together, what, for 15 years now
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: since I've been back. There hasn't been that many times
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: where there was a clear-cut rivalry. You knew these two teams.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Maybe we talked about it, but you weren't sure if
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: maybe the teams felt it like we were talking about.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: This is a rivalry, man. It is.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: And I talked with Fred Taylor earlier today, and he
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: acknowledged that when he was playing, remember he was talking
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: trash in 99 back to Samari Roll and back to
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: that team, even though they beat the Jags three times
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: that year. This is that rivalry. This is that don't
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: like you.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah. A rivalry, like I said to Brent earlier, a
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: rivalry isn't a rivalry if it's one-sided. These teams hurt
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: each other last year, meaning it was a win. The
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  Speaker 2: Texans got it. The Texans had the win over the
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  Speaker 2: Jaguars that they've acknowledged was a huge blow to them.
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  Speaker 2: That hurt. The Jaguars winning the division hurt the Texans.
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  Speaker 2: Both of these teams have something the other team wants back.
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  Speaker 1: All right, and that'll do it for Jags AM. We'll,
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  Speaker 1: of course, have great coverage for you from Wembley Stadium
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday all the way through the post-game show. For
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  Speaker 1: John Osier and Brent Martineau and our entire broadcast team,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for joining us on Jags AM from London this week.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you on Sunday from Wembley Stadium.