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Everything is Gambling | Hilton's Governor Campaign Ad · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 2: this week, I get to be with you and with
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  Speaker 2: the morning crew as Handel is on vacation on a safari.
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  Speaker 2: And he'll come back, I believe, a week from today
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  Speaker 2: to give you, you know, all the insights of what
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  Speaker 2: and Linz are enjoying the animals and the culture and
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  Speaker 2: everything else. And you can see that on the Bill
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  Speaker 2: Handel Instagram page. if you so choose. I've said many
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  Speaker 2: times before that oftentimes it's not victims, it's volunteers. And
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  Speaker 2: that goes with all of us. We have a tendency
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  Speaker 2: to allow things in our life and become, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: okay with them while complaining about them. And the Wall
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  Speaker 2: Street Journal put out this story with the with the headline,
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  Speaker 2: the mighty American consumer is crashing through inflation and driving growth.
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  Speaker 2: Not what you expect. You see these things that seem
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  Speaker 2: to contradict each other, and maybe they do in some way,
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  Speaker 2: but you have US households spending more, 6.1% in the
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  Speaker 2: 12 months through August, driven by both rising prices, of course,
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  Speaker 2: which we know, That one I get. If you're buying
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  Speaker 2: the stuff you have to buy, prices are high, we're
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  Speaker 2: spending more. But that's not the part that caught my eye.
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  Speaker 2: That was an increased volume of purchases. So there is
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  Speaker 2: a rise in consumer spending. It's not just the prices
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  Speaker 2: are going up. It's persisted. We've got this long running
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  Speaker 2: dialogue about frustration over inflation. And You know, we're at
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  Speaker 2: a historically low place when it comes to consumer sentiment.
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  Speaker 2: You can see it on social media. We've heard it
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  Speaker 2: here on the radio, on this program as well. Spending
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  Speaker 2: growth could stall and maybe should stall or we'd expect
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  Speaker 2: it to stall, but it hasn't at this point. U.S.
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  Speaker 2: saving rate has fallen to 4.1%. Consumers take on record
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  Speaker 2: levels of debt. One of the Chicago examples they give
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  Speaker 2: is a happy hour at Chicago's Bar Roma. A reporter
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  Speaker 2: went in there. It was bustling. A lot of locals
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  Speaker 2: enjoying cocktails at $ 10 a pop, which is cheap. What's
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  Speaker 2: it in L.A.? Like $ 24 for a cocktail is what
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  Speaker 2: I'm thinking. Amy, Will, anybody going out these days? About
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  Speaker 2: expensive cocktails? Yeah, isn't it about $ 24 for a cocktail
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  Speaker 2: here in LA? That seems kind of pricey. Well, no,
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  Speaker 2: it's like, well, at Disneyland. That's what they are. And
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  Speaker 2: it's $ 20 for a can of beer at Dodger Stadium.
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  Speaker 1: Two!
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  Speaker 2: So a $ 10 cocktail for a happy hour to me
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  Speaker 2: seems pretty good. And $ 11 for a bruschetta, and that
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  Speaker 2: seems pretty good too. But the reality is people are
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  Speaker 2: still coming home after a long day and want to
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  Speaker 2: treat themselves to something or want to do something. So
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  Speaker 2: they don't always stay home. They get up, they go out,
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  Speaker 2: they enjoy a happy hour, they meet friends and family.
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  Speaker 2: And this is showing that these kinds of decisions are
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  Speaker 2: keeping America afloat during a strange economy. We still have
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  Speaker 2: this appetite for consumption. How many of us Have at
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  Speaker 2: least one package delivered today. You know, either it could
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  Speaker 2: be from the post office or it could be from
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  Speaker 2: Amazon or it can be from another carrier or courier.
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  Speaker 2: I know we do. We have a lot of that
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  Speaker 2: stuff because ultimately our lifestyle moves at such a pace.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to get out. Sometimes my wife is much
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  Speaker 2: better than I am at that. Like she, she like,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to, I'll drive there and pick it up.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, drive there and pick it up in
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  Speaker 2: this weather. No way, Jose. And I, you know, I'd
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  Speaker 2: rather have it delivered, but we are still spending. And
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  Speaker 2: there is something that comes to wanting to, I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: to ease our pains in life. We want to go out.
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  Speaker 2: We want to enjoy things. We want to have a
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  Speaker 2: cocktail or some good food or whatever it may be.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of consumption. It may the economy
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  Speaker 2: might be frustrating us, and it is. I said this
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  Speaker 2: the other day. This is the first time I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I went through 2008 with every one of you, and
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  Speaker 2: we all dealt with the recession there. But for some reason,
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  Speaker 2: it hit differently. I don't know why 2008 didn't bother
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  Speaker 2: me or scare me. I'm not going to say I'm scared,
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  Speaker 2: but I'm going to say we are in a unique
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  Speaker 2: situation when it comes to our economy right now. Older
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  Speaker 2: Americans who own homes and stocks have benefited from that,
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  Speaker 2: the soaring prices for both. But you're not going to
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  Speaker 2: sell your home right now. It's hard to explain that,
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  Speaker 2: that homes are an investment in some ways. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we have a second so-called vacation home, but really it's
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  Speaker 2: an investment that you can go stay at on occasion.
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  Speaker 2: You wouldn't sell it now. We wouldn't make anything from it.
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  Speaker 2: But the hope is you keep these things. So as
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  Speaker 2: far as home and, oh, look, the home has gone up.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't mean anything unless you're ready to sell and
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  Speaker 2: move somewhere cheaper. Job market has cooled down a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: But still post-pandemic, we had that surge. And now we
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  Speaker 2: still don't know exactly when things are up or down
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  Speaker 2: with the job market because we talked about that on Friday.
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  Speaker 2: And people can get a part-time job and say, okay,
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  Speaker 2: that person found a job, but it's not a full-time
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  Speaker 2: or maybe it's not to the full potential of their expertise.
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  Speaker 2: But meanwhile, we're still spending here in America, even with
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  Speaker 2: the cost skyrocketing. All right, gambling. I'm not a big gambler.
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  Speaker 2: I do like gaming in the sense that I put
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  Speaker 2: aside a certain amount of money. I go to Morongo
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  Speaker 2: or if I'm in Vegas and I enjoy myself. I
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  Speaker 2: like 21, Blackjack. Not a real slots person, but sometimes
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  Speaker 2: when I'm at those locations, it's kind of fun to
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  Speaker 2: sit down and hang out. But I'm not like a real, God,
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  Speaker 2: I got to get this or I got to win
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  Speaker 2: or I got to That's not what I do. And
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  Speaker 2: I don't bet on sports or anything like that, even
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  Speaker 2: though I'm sort of intrigued by it on occasion. But
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  Speaker 2: it's changing. Everything is gambling now. So, you know, modern culture,
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  Speaker 2: we like talking about entertainment and all these things. You
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  Speaker 2: got marketing, you got celebrity culture. And all these things
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  Speaker 2: are tied to gambling platforms now. It is centuries old,
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  Speaker 2: centuries and centuries old. human behavior. However, what has changed
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  Speaker 2: is technology. And as technology changes, then we have easier access,
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  Speaker 2: I guess you could say. So you go back, gambling's
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  Speaker 2: one of humanity's oldest activities. We've been doing this forever.
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  Speaker 2: You go back, we've got evidence in Mesopotamia, ancient China, Egypt,
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  Speaker 2: where there were games of chance. I mean, the Bible
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  Speaker 2: talks about these things. And they were tied sometimes to
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  Speaker 2: ritualistic things or divination. They were tied to social life,
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  Speaker 2: just like gaming can be tied to social life now.
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  Speaker 2: But over centuries, it evolved from those kind of more
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  Speaker 2: ceremonial instances or some even having these religious ties to lotteries,
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  Speaker 2: using dices, whatever. Then it became organized casinos. Going in,
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  Speaker 2: the casinos would woo you in with these massive buffets
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  Speaker 2: and all these different experiences, shows. And then you'd come
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  Speaker 2: in all to enjoy the betting, the gambling experience. Even
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  Speaker 2: back in the day, I remember the complimentary drinks and
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  Speaker 2: everything they tried to woo you in. Well, as far
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  Speaker 2: as I can remember, you know, I remember– I'm a
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  Speaker 2: big fan of old Bob Hope films and still make
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  Speaker 2: me laugh to this day. And there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: jokes about playing the ponies or having a bookie. Back
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  Speaker 2: in the day, all of these things played a part
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  Speaker 2: of that. But as it goes from organized casinos, then
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  Speaker 2: sports betting, now we're here at the internet. Now we're
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  Speaker 2: here with apps. You can do it. So the 20th
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  Speaker 2: century saw the rise of legal gambling hubs in Vegas
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  Speaker 2: and beyond, there in Vegas. And then 21st century brought
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  Speaker 2: mobile and online gambling. And it can be integrated into
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  Speaker 2: daily life. Now, you may be able to do that
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  Speaker 2: with no problem. It's just part and you set aside
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  Speaker 2: money the same way I would. for going and gaming somewhere.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's some that can't. But if you think
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  Speaker 2: that gambling hasn't been amplified by the digital realm, you'd
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  Speaker 2: be wrong. Gambling companies began using social media and viral marketing,
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  Speaker 2: and now they are embedded in our pop culture. And
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  Speaker 2: as these things become, you know, we have them advertising
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  Speaker 2: here on this very station. And there's some people, Kono,
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  Speaker 2: you bet, don't you?
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  Speaker 3: I like to put a little wager here and there.
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  Speaker 2: Throw a little wager down. Is it mostly online? Sports events,
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  Speaker 2: or do you, like, do some of the social things, too?
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  Speaker 3: No, mine's strictly price picks, pretty much, and just sports.
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  Speaker 2: So, break it down for a second. I've never used them.
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  Speaker 2: You go onto the app, and what's the experience like?
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  Speaker 3: It's very, like, gamification. It's like when you download Solitaire
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  Speaker 3: or something on your phone.
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  Speaker 2: So... That's a big thing with everything. Everything is game.
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  Speaker 2: You go on Teemu and they've gamified it. You go
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  Speaker 2: even some other apps for buying things. They try and
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  Speaker 2: hook you by saying you can get 15 percent off
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  Speaker 2: if you play this or you spin this.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: Usually like the discount code, if you get one and
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  Speaker 3: they'll say your first deposit will match or something like up.
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  Speaker 2: To $ 50.
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  Speaker 3: And you're like, oh, it's $ 50 for free.
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  Speaker 2: And then they get you to where you're hooked. You're
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  Speaker 2: automatically in.
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  Speaker 3: Gambling is the art of the chase. Everybody wants to
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  Speaker 3: chase their loss because of that one win that they got.
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  Speaker 3: And they'll lose 40 times and go, the next one.
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  Speaker 2: The next one, I will make it all back. And
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  Speaker 2: you never do. Yeah. I mean, someone may because that
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  Speaker 2: story has to be out there somewhere for someone to go, hey,
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  Speaker 2: it's going to happen. But I know house rules. They're
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  Speaker 2: going to win.
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  Speaker 3: And there's a lot of influencers out there that– also
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  Speaker 3: fake a lot of what they do and they Photoshop
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  Speaker 3: a lot of their tickets and they go, look how
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  Speaker 3: much I've made. And then people will start following them
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  Speaker 3: because they're, they're, they're influenced. And, uh, yeah, people are losing.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of money. But what's going to rub off
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  Speaker 2: on you by following a, you know, a, an influencer
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  Speaker 2: on Instagram when it comes to gambling. I mean, if
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  Speaker 2: there's a skill like there is in poker, for instance, uh,
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  Speaker 2: You can learn something. But what would you– have you
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  Speaker 2: ever gotten a tip that helped you win anything gambling?
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  Speaker 2: A tip? No.
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  Speaker 3: But I have seen and I know a couple people
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  Speaker 3: that do make a living doing it. So when you go–
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  Speaker 3: and they'll show their profits and their losses. So you go,
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  Speaker 3: if this guy is making this much money and he's
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  Speaker 3: selling his picks, let me see if I can buy
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  Speaker 3: his picks and match what he's doing or her.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that kind of– I do as much as I
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  Speaker 2: can to stay in control of my abilities and my
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  Speaker 2: mind as much as possible because I know that if
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  Speaker 2: you get in that rut– that it is that the
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  Speaker 2: chase is on and you're, you're, you start fantasizing about
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  Speaker 2: all the options. Amy was talking earlier about the, what,
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  Speaker 2: what lottery is going on, whatever lottery is going on.
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  Speaker 1: And that's.
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  Speaker 2: Powerball. Yeah. So you start. Almost half a million or
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  Speaker 2: a half billion. A billion. Half billion. How could you not?
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  Speaker 2: If it just for a second. Fantasize about that. You know,
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  Speaker 2: how many problems that might be able to solve for somebody,
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  Speaker 2: but in short, For the sake of the story, everything's
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  Speaker 2: becoming gambling because gambling platforms now operate as cultural hubs.
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  Speaker 2: Like Kono said, they branch off into social media. They
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  Speaker 2: branch off into websites. They branch off into any of
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  Speaker 2: these things. So now it's blending entertainment, marketing, community. And
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  Speaker 2: this is echoing back to one of humanity's oldest games.
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  Speaker 2: They say all new technology leads to porn. Well, no.
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  Speaker 2: or military or whatever, you know, everything now is moving
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  Speaker 2: to this. And I guess if it blends with entertainment
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  Speaker 2: and you get some fun out of it, at least
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  Speaker 2: that's something that you're being rewarded so that you're not
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  Speaker 2: just thinking, oh, I'm going to be rich, rich, rich
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  Speaker 2: from gambling. Maybe I'll check it out. So yeah, if
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  Speaker 2: you want to see Handel doing his stuff, you can
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  Speaker 2: go on to the Bill Handel Show Instagram account. And
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  Speaker 2: I think they've been posting some stuff there. So we
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  Speaker 2: talked about this a little bit during the Handel on
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  Speaker 2: the News segment. Is this what's being called a provocative,
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  Speaker 2: sexually suggestive ad by Hilton, Steve Hilton, who's running for
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  Speaker 2: governor of this fine state? And it's being condemned by
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  Speaker 2: political allies on the right. And more and more we
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  Speaker 2: start getting these– I mean it is– you look back
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  Speaker 2: at the history of of stump speeches or speeches on
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  Speaker 2: the back of those trains, which we always saw, right?
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  Speaker 2: They'd be at the caboose and the drawings or the
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  Speaker 2: imagery of that, giving a speech on the back or
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  Speaker 2: some of the political cartoons that were done long ago.
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  Speaker 2: Some of them were vicious, man. It's nothing new to
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  Speaker 2: be mean to one another, for sure. But trying to
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  Speaker 2: find and carve a space at the arguably most, the
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  Speaker 2: loudest time in history. And I mean that by the loudest,
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  Speaker 2: by the, there's so much that is vying for our attention.
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  Speaker 2: There is so much, you know, back way, way back,
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  Speaker 2: you're looking at political pamphlets, you're looking at you know,
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  Speaker 2: written things, newsprint, stuff like that. And as we move forward,
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  Speaker 2: now we get them everywhere. I was trying to watch
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  Speaker 2: a learning video on YouTube the other day. And I
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  Speaker 2: don't pay for the premium where you can get it
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  Speaker 2: without ads. I just get ads like everybody else. And
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  Speaker 2: The ads kept popping up and it was the same
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  Speaker 2: political ad over and over and over again because they
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  Speaker 2: have to reach us. And the traditional methods are best. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: radio is great. People in their cars. You're here in
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  Speaker 2: Los Angeles or you're here in California. We like to drive.
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  Speaker 2: So now you've got Steve Hilton putting out this ad,
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  Speaker 2: which was I saw it online. So it's not like
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  Speaker 2: it popped up on TV or something. But it's being
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  Speaker 2: referred to as the sexually suggestive ad. He's Republican. He's
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  Speaker 2: a gubernatorial candidate. And he is the underdog for sure.
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  Speaker 2: We don't tend to vote for Republicans in those cases.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a while for sure. So the backlash is
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  Speaker 2: hitting him. It comes as he trails the Democratic front
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  Speaker 2: runner Becerra. Well, some conservatives who called the ad grotesque
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  Speaker 2: say they're still going to support him because that's what
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  Speaker 2: we do. We don't care as long as, you know,
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  Speaker 2: whatever evil comes our way, we don't care as long
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  Speaker 2: as it's what we want ultimately in the end. So
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  Speaker 2: What is this ad? You got two young women sitting
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  Speaker 2: on a bed, colored hair and all this stuff. One,
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  Speaker 2: I think, has a nose ring and it's got an
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  Speaker 2: LGBTQ plus flag in the background. One is urging the
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  Speaker 2: other to try a new experience. And it goes like this.
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  Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm doing this, says one woman. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: you have it, Kona? Please let it fly, bub. I
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  Speaker 2: can't believe I'm doing this.
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  Speaker 3: Don't be nervous.
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  Speaker 2: It's not that bad. I've just never done anything like
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  Speaker 2: this before. Like, what if my dad finds out? Just
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  Speaker 2: try it. Look, give me your hand. Close your eyes.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll do all the work. See?
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  Speaker 3: I think I liked it.
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  Speaker 2: And then apparently at the very end, after she signs it,
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  Speaker 2: she says, no, lick it. Referring to the ballot envelope,
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  Speaker 2: of course. So fellow Republicans, as well as obviously several Democrats,
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  Speaker 2: denounced Hilton over the messaging. I. I have a hard time.
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  Speaker 2: Is it, is it funny? Yeah, I'm sure it's funny.
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  Speaker 2: Cause you're, you're doing the switch clever enough, I suppose.
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  Speaker 2: And you have others coming out saying, I emphatically denounce
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  Speaker 2: the use of young women as a political tool. And
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  Speaker 2: then I start going, listen, you folks in politics use
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  Speaker 2: any and every tool you can lying, cheating, stealing, and, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I don't recall the age of the girls. How young
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  Speaker 2: are they? Anybody take a stab at that as to
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  Speaker 2: what it looks like? It didn't. Well, they have to
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  Speaker 2: be at least 18 to vote. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: So you'd assume that. But others are saying, gosh, they
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  Speaker 2: look underage and all this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: And.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Is it tacky? Would I use it?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: But at this point, anything and everything is on the table.
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  Speaker 2: And nobody's nice about it. And I can't stand the
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  Speaker 2: higher than now because everybody is doing horrible things. And
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  Speaker 2: that's just how political speak is, unfortunately. Ann, producer Ann
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  Speaker 2: and I were talking last week about dinner parties. And don't, like,
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  Speaker 2: when you watch Shows that are either older shows or
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  Speaker 2: newer shows set in a time period past. And you
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  Speaker 2: think about those dinner parties. I think the 70s, they
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  Speaker 2: were they were real, very popular. And I think it
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  Speaker 2: blended bled into the 80s as well. You know, getting together,
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  Speaker 2: being social, having food and cocktails. We talk about on
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  Speaker 2: the Fork Report a lot. Saturdays, if you haven't heard it,
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  Speaker 2: Saturdays from two to five. We celebrate food. And one
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  Speaker 2: of the things that I talk about is the word companion,
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  Speaker 2: the very word companion. The root word there is P-A-N, Pan,
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  Speaker 2: is bread. Companion, the word companion means to break bread
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  Speaker 2: with someone. And from the earliest days of humankind, we
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  Speaker 2: have come together to eat as a sign of respect
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  Speaker 2: and connection and community and And that concept of companion
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  Speaker 2: means someone you're going to break bread with. And breaking
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: bread used to be more popular in the home. And
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: they're finding as they study more and more that we
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  Speaker 2: have pretty much as Americans just stopped throwing dinner parties.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: And there were little bursts of them that would come up.
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  Speaker 2: I know they were very popular in decades past, but
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: then you had the rise or the kind of the
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  Speaker 2: bump of the Food Network. And early on, believe it
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  Speaker 2: or not, the Food Network used to not be about
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  Speaker 2: games and competitions. It was about learning how to cook
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  Speaker 2: and learning new techniques. And so what happened was somebody
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  Speaker 2: would learn something and they'd go, hey, this is fun,
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  Speaker 2: but you're not going to make that just for yourself.
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  Speaker 2: Let's have a dinner party. And so there was some
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  Speaker 2: dinner parties and things that were popping up after its heyday, heyday.
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  Speaker 2: But they're falling the way of the dodo bird because
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of changes that we have in our
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  Speaker 2: lives as well. We're busier. That's hard to explain. Most
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  Speaker 2: of us live in a gig economy. Most of us
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  Speaker 2: don't have just one job. And that's hard– That is
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  Speaker 2: harder to deal with. We keep pushing ourselves. It used
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  Speaker 2: to be it was one person. Back in the day,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: it was the husband who went to work for the
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  Speaker 2: most part. And then women went to the workforce. My
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: mom went into the workforce in the 70s when I
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  Speaker 2: was just a wee one. And and then they you
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: have the two income family.
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  Speaker 1: And now.
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  Speaker 2: It's not even a two-income family. My wife has a
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: private practice. She also does work for the county. Of course,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: she does voluntary work with my son's school. And I
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: have multiple jobs. Kono has multiple jobs. I don't think
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Amy does anymore, but she used to. For a long time,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Amy had a marketing job that she went to. Ann
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: has multiple jobs. Will has multiple jobs. I mean, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Handel has multiple wives. It's like everybody's got all these things.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: A kid, a kid. But right, Amy, do you, the
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: people in your life, don't most of them have multiple
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: jobs now? A lot of people do, yes. Yeah, and
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: so it's kind of the gig economy. So being busier, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: these things have fallen by the wayside. Plus we're having
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  Speaker 2: children later in life. You know, I look at my
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: family and will you shake that one off you know
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: uh you look at my family and my brothers and
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: sisters their kids are grown the last one to graduate
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: uh high school uh already graduated back in june my
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: uh nephew danny and so We've got a nine-year-old. We're
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: the last ones in that crowd. And so having people
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: over is a different thing. Plus, we don't do childcare.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: We don't do babysitting. They're with Tracy, my wife's parents.
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  Speaker 2: My mom's not in the ability to be able to
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: watch kids the way she used to, but she used
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: to come over and she would watch our son. So
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: getting childcare, packed schedules, Hosting feels like a lot of
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  Speaker 2: work and it's more expensive. Buying food, drinks for a
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: group can be very costly. I think it's fun, but
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: it's hard to gauge. You always would rather have more
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: than less, right? Same with being on time places, right?
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  Speaker 2: We'd rather get one more minute of sleep than show
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: up one minute early, unfortunately. Restaurants, casual dining has become easier.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: spending hours shopping, cooking, cleaning. People don't want to deal
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: with that the same way. Expectations around hosting has changed.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Older style dinner parties, it could involve super elaborate meals,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: nicely set table, a lot of preparation. Today, that feels intimidating.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Something more casual. What's the go-to, folks? What do we
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: go to when we want something quick and casual? Pizza.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Pizza is a crowd pleaser. Uh, and it comes with
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: its own plate. You eat the plate. It's like, uh,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: you got your toppings on an edible plate. You're good
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: to go. So that's changed, you know, barbecue drinks, things
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: like that. Technology has changed socializing. We connect via social media.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: We stream as we are this morning, streaming, connecting with
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: each other. Um, And you can stay socially connected without
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: physically getting people together. I'm not crazy about that at all.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: I like connecting, but I don't. It's really hard. There's
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: friends that I may see twice a year. I don't
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: see my family that much. And I'm talking about my
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: first family, not my now family, because my priority is
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: my wife and my son. And it's going to stay
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: that way. To be able to do all these things,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: it gets hard. So I feel for people, even the holidays.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: It's probably less about that Americans don't want to socialize
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: or don't even have the romanticism about getting a linen
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: cloth table or something. It's more about traditional dinner parties
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: have just become too much effort. And I wish we
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: could bring them back. They're kind of neat, even though
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: I've become a hermit in my older age. I always
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: the thought of, you know, dressing up and going out
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: and having a proper dinner, you know, with all the forks,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: all the spoons, those types of things. It sounds nice
• 27:39
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