Latest / O'Brien & Doug / O'Brien & Doug Ep167 [October 5, 2023 Henry Rollins is Nicer Than You'd Think!]
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- 0:00SPEAKER_07: It's ridiculous.
- 0:01SPEAKER_06: It's preposterous.
- 0:02SPEAKER_06: It's ludicrous.
- 0:03SPEAKER_06: By God, it's impetuous.
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- 0:14SPEAKER_02: And my cousin, Larry.
- 0:17unknown: Who?
- 0:17SPEAKER_00: Larry.
- 0:18SPEAKER_00: Oh, Larry.
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- 0:29SPEAKER_04: The clapper.
- 0:31SPEAKER_04: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
- 0:35SPEAKER_02: Well, thank you.
- 0:36SPEAKER_02: That was that was computer's like, I'm here too.
- 0:40SPEAKER_02: I'm O'Brien.
- 0:41SPEAKER_02: I'm Doug.
- 0:42SPEAKER_02: And I had the computer.
- 0:43SPEAKER_02: And I did not make that noise.
- 0:45SPEAKER_02: That was that was an email or something that I just received because my computer maybe it was from Buzzspro saying, hey, stop it.
- 0:50SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 0:52SPEAKER_02: Probably.
- 0:53SPEAKER_02: So we did to be honest with you.
- 0:56SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't know if there are any other podcasts that use Buzzsprout.
- 1:00SPEAKER_02: Maybe we're the only ones.
- 1:01SPEAKER_04: Oh no, I think there are some.
- 1:02SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
- 1:02SPEAKER_04: Actually, there's the the only the only Sammy Hagar dedicated podcast, which I think is the bogus Otis Show.
- 1:12SPEAKER_04: It's a can it's a Canadian podcast dedicated to Sammy Hagar and all things Sammy Hagar.
- 1:17SPEAKER_04: They use Buzzsprout.
- 1:18SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay.
- 1:18SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:19SPEAKER_02: So we're in good we're in good company.
- 1:21SPEAKER_02: We're in good company.
- 1:21SPEAKER_02: All right.
- 1:22SPEAKER_04: Very cool.
- 1:22SPEAKER_04: I I know that for a fact, and I'm sure there are other podcasts, obviously, that use BuzzProut.
- 1:26SPEAKER_02: I hope so.
- 1:27SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:27SPEAKER_04: Um so yeah, so we started recording uh this podcast last week.
- 1:33SPEAKER_02: Started as a uh general turn.
- 1:36SPEAKER_02: We were almost actually done.
- 1:37SPEAKER_02: This is true.
- 1:38SPEAKER_02: We were almost done.
- 1:40SPEAKER_02: I think we were starting to do the wall of tombs.
- 1:42SPEAKER_02: I think we were.
- 1:43SPEAKER_02: And then the batteries died.
- 1:44SPEAKER_02: Yeah, which happens.
- 1:45SPEAKER_02: Yeah, which it does happen, you know.
- 1:47SPEAKER_02: But we you're an expert in like editing, so it's it's seamless.
- 1:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so what we what we usually do and then nothing.
- 1:57SPEAKER_04: Well, that's true.
- 1:59SPEAKER_04: So what we usually do is we record to disk on on a on a um uh uh what do you call them?
- 2:04SPEAKER_04: Sd card.
- 2:05SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 2:06SPEAKER_04: And so that's happened to us before where the batteries in our little podcast recorder have died.
- 2:11SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
- 2:12SPEAKER_04: So we just simply take out the disc, put it in the computer, and find out where we left off.
- 2:17SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 2:18SPEAKER_04: So that we can start where we left off and record the rest of it.
- 2:22SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 2:23SPEAKER_04: With new batteries.
- 2:24SPEAKER_04: Seamless.
- 2:24SPEAKER_04: So we tried to do that last week.
- 2:26SPEAKER_04: We were, like you said, basically almost done the podcast.
- 2:30SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 2:30SPEAKER_04: Uh over an hour, I think.
- 2:32SPEAKER_02: Oh, I I know it was at least an hour and a half.
- 2:35SPEAKER_04: And um our batteries died, so I took the disc out to see where we left off, and there was three minutes recorded.
- 2:44SPEAKER_04: The first three minutes of the podcast.
- 2:46SPEAKER_04: And only the first three minutes of the podcast.
- 2:49SPEAKER_02: It was the best three minutes ever.
- 2:50SPEAKER_02: It was.
- 2:51SPEAKER_02: We should have released that.
- 2:53SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we should have like, bye! Here's our podcast.
- 2:54SPEAKER_02: Three minutes.
- 2:55SPEAKER_02: Bye.
- 2:57SPEAKER_02: People were like, finally.
- 2:59SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 3:00SPEAKER_04: So uh we should revisit some of the stuff that we talked about because um you had some great things to say.
- 3:07SPEAKER_04: I did.
- 3:08SPEAKER_04: About your little excursion.
- 3:09SPEAKER_02: I took an adventure.
- 3:11SPEAKER_04: You did to see this man.
- 3:14SPEAKER_02: I'm like Frodo.
- 3:15SPEAKER_04: Henry Rollins.
- 3:16SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 3:16SPEAKER_04: Uh of Black Flag fame.
- 3:18SPEAKER_04: Uh I I sh I say that, but uh bigger than Black Flag.
- 3:21SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's I mean he's Well, Black Flag is where you gotta start, and then you know, he started his you know, started the Rollins band after that, and then uh now he's just you know his own man.
- 3:30SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 3:31SPEAKER_02: You know, he's a punk rock legend at this point.
- 3:33SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
- 3:34SPEAKER_02: So yeah, so I went down to Waldeboro, to the Waldeboro Theater, which is a very nice place.
- 3:42SPEAKER_04: We should say that because you're a big fan of Henry Rollins, you splurged.
- 3:48SPEAKER_04: I did.
- 3:48SPEAKER_02: And you got the I got it at the VIP package.
- 3:51SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 3:52SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 3:52SPEAKER_02: It's pretty cool, man.
- 3:54SPEAKER_02: So I got to go in early to the venue.
- 3:57SPEAKER_02: I got early seating, I had reserved seating, which was very nice.
- 4:01SPEAKER_02: And the staff at the Waldo Theater are very nice, very nice people.
- 4:05SPEAKER_02: So I volunteer.
- 4:06SPEAKER_02: Oh, really?
- 4:07SPEAKER_02: Yeah, all volunteers.
- 4:08SPEAKER_02: And they're very nice, they're very, very nice people.
- 4:11SPEAKER_02: And uh so I I went in and I got my, you know, I gave him my name, so I was there like, oh yes, here here you are, can they check me off?
- 4:18SPEAKER_02: And then they're like, okay, just go over to the merch table and uh they'll give you your your autographed laminate.
- 4:24SPEAKER_02: And I was like, yes.
- 4:25SPEAKER_02: Nice.
- 4:26SPEAKER_02: And then I went over to so and uh so I went over there and I gave him my name again.
- 4:29SPEAKER_02: It was Henry's tour manager, right?
- 4:31SPEAKER_02: Which I I can't I still can't think of his name.
- 4:33SPEAKER_02: He's a very nice guy.
- 4:34SPEAKER_02: He's very he's very Australian, but he's a very nice man.
- 4:37SPEAKER_02: So and then uh so he gave me my laminate and he gave him my my slip of paper to write my for the QA at the end of the show.
- 4:45SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 4:46SPEAKER_04: So I could write my question.
- 4:47SPEAKER_04: We should say, we should say, because I don't know if we've clarified that this is a speaking tour that he's on.
- 4:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's not it's not music, it's it's all speaking.
- 4:54SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 4:55SPEAKER_02: So um so I wrote out my question, which was about Iggy pop.
- 5:01SPEAKER_02: Did he I and I I I I think this is how I phrased it.
- 5:06SPEAKER_02: Uh I said, Did you ever m accomplish your goal of outperforming Iggy pop?
- 5:13SPEAKER_02: That was my question.
- 5:14SPEAKER_02: Because that was a thing that he was it was a bit he did like 10, 15 years ago.
- 5:17SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 5:18SPEAKER_02: And I saw and I just loved it.
- 5:19SPEAKER_02: It's one of my favorite stories of uh Henry's.
- 5:22SPEAKER_09: Right.
- 5:23SPEAKER_02: So uh so I wrote it down, I gave it back to the tour manager, and then I I was like, oh man.
- 5:28SPEAKER_02: And it's the Wall of theater is very nice, built in 1936.
- 5:31SPEAKER_02: It was a movie theater, it was stated at the art in 1936.
- 5:35SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 5:35SPEAKER_02: It's not now, not now, but it's still beautiful, right?
- 5:38SPEAKER_02: It's very it's very nice, it's very small.
- 5:40SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it only seats about 160 people.
- 5:42SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 5:43SPEAKER_02: But the chairs are very comfortable.
- 5:45SPEAKER_02: I mean, and I was like in the third row, right, which was really nice.
- 5:48SPEAKER_02: And she's and the lady was like, If you want to move to another chair, just take your sign and put it on that chair.
- 5:54SPEAKER_02: And I was like, that's actually pretty cool.
- 5:56SPEAKER_02: Wow.
- 5:56SPEAKER_02: You know, so I could have I could have sat in the front row, but I you know, I was just like, Yeah, well, you know, there's other people there, you know.
- 6:01SPEAKER_09: Right.
- 6:01SPEAKER_02: I don't care.
- 6:02SPEAKER_02: And the great thing was is that everybody there was at least my age.
- 6:08SPEAKER_02: Most every I would say 98% of the people were at least my age or older.
- 6:13SPEAKER_04: The other two percent were young?
- 6:14SPEAKER_02: Yeah, there were a couple teenagers.
- 6:16SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 6:16SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 6:17SPEAKER_02: Uh was I I was like, wow, that's cool.
- 6:19SPEAKER_02: You know, they they actually know Henry.
- 6:20SPEAKER_02: No, you know, so I was actually kind of impressed.
- 6:23SPEAKER_02: But most of them were like old fogies like me that still love punk rocket and stuff like that.
- 6:28SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 6:28SPEAKER_02: So, and they're all very they're all very nice people, and you know, they're just milling around, and I'm just I'm just sitting there because I don't I know nobody.
- 6:36SPEAKER_02: I was hoping Bob would come, but you know, he didn't.
- 6:39SPEAKER_02: So But uh, you know, so I'm just sitting there and there was one jerk off.
- 6:45SPEAKER_04: There's always one.
- 6:46SPEAKER_02: There's always easy and he and as soon as I saw him walk down the aisle, I was like, oh, I already already I already know this guy's a dummy.
- 6:54SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 6:55SPEAKER_02: And what he does is he walks right up on the stage.
- 6:58SPEAKER_02: On the stage is like three monitors, a mic standing and a mic.
- 7:01SPEAKER_02: That's it.
- 7:02SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 7:03SPEAKER_02: Walks up on the stage, grabs the mic, and his wife or girlfriend or docent or whatever you know, healthcare worker, I don't know, I don't know what she was.
- 7:12SPEAKER_02: She's she's like down there.
- 7:13SPEAKER_02: He gets up on the stage, grabs the mic, and like strikes a pose like he's McJack.
- 7:17SPEAKER_02: Did she take a picture or something?
- 7:18SPEAKER_02: And she took a picture on it, yeah.
- 7:19SPEAKER_02: And I'm thinking, what a friggin' jerk.
- 7:22SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 7:22SPEAKER_02: You know, that's not your stuff.
- 7:24SPEAKER_02: And so, you know, the mic was set up nice, yeah.
- 7:26SPEAKER_02: You know, for Henry to grab.
- 7:27SPEAKER_02: So when the guy got done, I mean, the mic was like pointed down at the four.
- 7:31SPEAKER_02: I thought it was gonna fall out of the holder.
- 7:33SPEAKER_09: Yeah.
- 7:33SPEAKER_02: But luckily, one of the very nice Waldo theater staff got right up on there, fixed the mic, and he got it, he kind of gave the guy side eye, which was pretty great.
- 7:43SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 7:43SPEAKER_02: So it's like, eh, what a jerk.
- 7:45SPEAKER_02: Well, it's disrespectful.
- 7:47SPEAKER_02: It was disrespectful.
- 7:47SPEAKER_02: I mean, what is I mean, what do you think?
- 7:49SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 7:49SPEAKER_02: Uh so anyway, but he was a VIP, unfortunately.
- 7:52SPEAKER_02: So anyway, so I I got there early.
- 7:56SPEAKER_02: Because I was like, oh, I thought the show was at seven.
- 8:00SPEAKER_02: Didn't start till 7 30.
- 8:01SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
- 8:01SPEAKER_02: I was like, man.
- 8:02SPEAKER_02: So I sat there for a while.
- 8:03SPEAKER_02: I was like, okay, there it is.
- 8:05SPEAKER_02: So I sat there and sat there and you know, started filling up.
- 8:08SPEAKER_02: 7 30 on the dock, Henry walks out on the stage.
- 8:12SPEAKER_04: No intro or anything?
- 8:13SPEAKER_02: Nothing.
- 8:13SPEAKER_02: Nothing.
- 8:14SPEAKER_02: Just he just, you know, the lights, you know, the the light, the house lights go down.
- 8:18SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 8:18SPEAKER_02: Spotlight goes on, Henry.
- 8:20SPEAKER_02: Black t-shirt, dickies, right, you know, work pants, boots.
- 8:26SPEAKER_02: That's it.
- 8:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 8:27SPEAKER_02: You know, that's just that's just that's his stage clothes.
- 8:29SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 8:30SPEAKER_02: Just walks out and he waves to everybody, he's like, oh, I'm Henry Rowland, and he grabs the mic, and he always he I don't know if you've ever seen him, but when he when he's doing a speech, he he grabs the mic cord and wraps it around his fist.
- 8:42SPEAKER_04: That's a from his punk days?
- 8:44SPEAKER_02: That's from his punk days, so he could punch people without hurting himself.
- 8:46SPEAKER_02: So, and he and he starts.
- 8:49SPEAKER_02: He get he starts right in it two and a half hours straight of just story after story after story after story.
- 8:57SPEAKER_02: Wow.
- 8:58SPEAKER_02: And it was great.
- 8:59SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 8:59SPEAKER_02: I mean, he's hilarious.
- 9:01SPEAKER_02: He's a great storyteller, he's still very angry at 62 years old.
- 9:06SPEAKER_02: He can yell with the best of him, and it is great.
- 9:09SPEAKER_02: And he just, I mean, it just the stories were great.
- 9:12SPEAKER_09: Right.
- 9:12SPEAKER_02: He talked about the first time he opened for Ozzy, how great that was.
- 9:16SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 9:16SPEAKER_02: Uh being on the first Lollapalooza, being the opening band for the first Lollapalooza in 91.
- 9:23SPEAKER_02: Uh, told some other stories, uh, and then he finished he finished the night with a story about a kid from Finland that was stalking him and breaking into his house.
- 9:31SPEAKER_02: And he got how he got in a fight with a kid and got him arrested.
- 9:34SPEAKER_02: So it was pretty great.
- 9:35SPEAKER_02: So it was just it was such a great and and you sat there for two and a half hours and you were just like just just like into it.
- 9:44SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 9:44SPEAKER_02: I don't remember, I I think I looked at my watch once.
- 9:49SPEAKER_04: Keep going.
- 9:49SPEAKER_04: And uh let's put this in the background.
- 9:51SPEAKER_02: It was like quarter after eight.
- 9:52SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh man, we're just getting started, we're getting warmed up.
- 9:54SPEAKER_02: And then after a while, I was like, wow, he's still going.
- 9:57SPEAKER_02: I looked at my watch, it was like quarter to ten.
- 9:58SPEAKER_02: I'm like, wow, he's still going.
- 10:00SPEAKER_02: He hasn't stopped, he hasn't he hasn't taken a sip of water.
- 10:03SPEAKER_02: No breath?
- 10:05SPEAKER_02: Barely a breath.
- 10:06SPEAKER_02: But uh the only thing he did when he came out is he took his phone out of his pocket and he set it on the floor in front of him.
- 10:13SPEAKER_02: And I assumed that's so he could watch the time.
- 10:15SPEAKER_04: I'm sure.
- 10:16SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 10:16SPEAKER_02: But that was it.
- 10:17SPEAKER_02: There was no water, there was no nothing.
- 10:18SPEAKER_02: He just two and a half hours, boom, straight.
- 10:21SPEAKER_04: Wow.
- 10:22SPEAKER_02: And it was great.
- 10:23SPEAKER_02: It was so funny, and it was great, and just you know.
- 10:25SPEAKER_04: I suppose that that's your only gig.
- 10:27SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
- 10:27SPEAKER_04: Because I mean, what's he what's he doing now besides maybe acting here and there?
- 10:31SPEAKER_02: Well, he's doing that, and he did a song with Cindy Lopper.
- 10:34SPEAKER_02: He did?
- 10:34SPEAKER_02: He did a black Cindy Lopper did a black flag song.
- 10:37SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 10:37SPEAKER_02: And he got up on stage and sang with her.
- 10:40SPEAKER_04: Really?
- 10:40SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 10:41SPEAKER_04: Do you know which song?
- 10:42SPEAKER_04: I mean Rise Above, I think.
- 10:44SPEAKER_04: What I gotta turn that up a little bit.
- 10:48SPEAKER_04: So this is the Rollins band.
- 11:03SPEAKER_04: Okay, I'm gonna look I'm looking for it.
- 11:04SPEAKER_04: Oh, oh, look at that.
- 11:06SPEAKER_04: Is it right there?
- 11:07SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 11:07SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 11:08SPEAKER_04: December 2019.
- 11:10SPEAKER_05: Very lovely to the opera.
- 11:15SPEAKER_04: Yeah, this is on YouTube if you want to look for it.
- 11:17SPEAKER_04: This is you're right, it was Rise Above.
- 11:19SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 11:19SPEAKER_04: This was in 2019.
- 11:21SPEAKER_04: So Rise Above is a black flag song.
- 11:22SPEAKER_02: It's a black flag song.
- 11:23SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 11:31SPEAKER_04: I can see Cindy Lauper, I mean, even though she was a pop star.
- 11:34SPEAKER_04: But I think she's she's got some punctuation.
- 11:36SPEAKER_04: She's got the place.
- 11:37SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
- 11:58SPEAKER_04: He's very you know, he's very animated.
- 12:00SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 12:01SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 12:02SPEAKER_02: Well, I mean, if you see pictures of him in his black flag days, even in the Rollins band days, the only thing he would wear on stage is shorts.
- 12:11SPEAKER_02: Really?
- 12:12SPEAKER_02: No.
- 12:12SPEAKER_02: No shoes, no socks, no shirt, just a pair of shorts.
- 12:16SPEAKER_02: Like, you know, from left over from his gym class days.
- 12:18SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 12:19SPEAKER_02: You know.
- 12:19SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 12:19SPEAKER_02: That's all he ever performed in because he sweats so much.
- 12:22SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 12:22SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 12:23SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 12:23SPEAKER_02: So.
- 12:24SPEAKER_02: But I think he's fully clothed in this clip, if I remember.
- 12:27SPEAKER_02: Because I think it's a fundraiser.
- 12:28SPEAKER_02: He just gotta gotta do presentable.
- 12:32SPEAKER_04: No, that's cool.
- 12:32SPEAKER_04: That's cool.
- 12:33SPEAKER_04: Well, I'm glad it was uh you know, they say when you um sometimes when you meet your heroes, they're not what you expect.
- 12:40SPEAKER_04: Oh no, Henry was he was more.
- 12:43SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
- 12:43SPEAKER_04: And more what you said.
- 12:44SPEAKER_02: He was more because what because after the show, we got to hang back.
- 12:48SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 12:48SPEAKER_02: And uh they let every you know the you know, the the unwashed masses leave.
- 12:53SPEAKER_02: Um so so it's just us, you know.
- 12:55SPEAKER_02: And I had to pee so bad.
- 12:56SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 12:57SPEAKER_02: I had to pee so freaking bad.
- 12:59SPEAKER_02: It literally hurt when I stood up.
- 13:01SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 13:02SPEAKER_04: You were there for two and a half hours.
- 13:04SPEAKER_02: Well, even before that, I was sat there for an hour and a half before the even show started.
- 13:07SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 13:08SPEAKER_02: So so so his tour manager came out and he explained exactly what was gonna happen.
- 13:12SPEAKER_02: He's like, okay, so you guys were gonna line up and I'm gonna take your picture with my camera and then uh I'm gonna download it, and you're gonna have it by the end of the, you know, the end of the QA and stuff like that.
- 13:21SPEAKER_02: So everybody and of course, jerk face.
- 13:26SPEAKER_02: Oh, how do we do this?
- 13:27SPEAKER_02: How uh are you gonna use our phones?
- 13:29SPEAKER_02: Dude, he just literally said he's gonna take your picture with his camera and download it.
- 13:36SPEAKER_02: So of course, jerk face, you know.
- 13:42SPEAKER_02: We'll let you into a Henry Rowland show.
- 13:44SPEAKER_02: But anyway, so so I was like, oh, this is perfect.
- 13:46SPEAKER_02: So I ran to the bathroom really quick.
- 13:51SPEAKER_02: I think I peed a lot longer than I thought because when I got back, the line was almost done.
- 13:56SPEAKER_02: I was like, oh crap! So I I jumped in line.
- 13:59SPEAKER_02: So when I walked up, uh so when it was my turn, I walked up to Henry and I stuck my hand out.
- 14:04SPEAKER_02: I said, Hey Henry, it's nice to meet you.
- 14:05SPEAKER_02: And he goes, Hey, it's nice to meet you too.
- 14:07SPEAKER_02: So I, you know, as you see in my the picture that you posted.
- 14:10SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I just kind of like folded my arms and you know, just kind of like leaned in.
- 14:13SPEAKER_02: I was like, ah, it's cool, man.
- 14:15SPEAKER_02: And then after we took the picture and then uh I shook his hand again.
- 14:18SPEAKER_02: I was like, Oh, thanks, Henry, thanks so much.
- 14:19SPEAKER_02: He's oh my pleasure, my pleasure.
- 14:21unknown: Yeah.
- 14:22SPEAKER_02: And he I don't know.
- 14:22SPEAKER_02: I just walked around and I was just wow, he's such a nice guy.
- 14:24SPEAKER_02: Very cool.
- 14:25SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, very cool.
- 14:26SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 14:26SPEAKER_02: And so he did answer, he was uh he answered, he only picked out five questions to answer.
- 14:32SPEAKER_04: And yours was one?
- 14:33SPEAKER_04: Mine was one.
- 14:34SPEAKER_04: That's cool.
- 14:34SPEAKER_04: That was awesome.
- 14:35SPEAKER_02: That's cool.
- 14:36SPEAKER_02: So it was great.
- 14:37SPEAKER_02: He answered that.
- 14:38SPEAKER_02: Are you gonna share that or no?
- 14:39SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 14:40SPEAKER_02: I could do that.
- 14:41SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 14:41SPEAKER_02: It's it's it's a little long, but it it's it it explains what I've been saying.
- 14:45SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 14:45SPEAKER_02: If you haven't heard the Henry versus Iggy Pop story, he he does a bare bones and how he met Iggy Pop in the circumstances.
- 14:52SPEAKER_04: So you recorded this on your phone.
- 14:54SPEAKER_04: I did.
- 14:54SPEAKER_04: As he was as he was asking the question and then answering the question.
- 14:57SPEAKER_02: So that's I think I I I missed a little bit of it because I was excited.
- 15:01SPEAKER_02: He answered my question, I forgot to hit record.
- 15:03SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 15:03SPEAKER_02: So um but yeah, let me find it real quick.
- 15:06SPEAKER_04: So he so you didn't know that he picked your question until he asked your question.
- 15:11SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because I was sitting there and I was like, so he so he had like the the you know what he picked.
- 15:16SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 15:17SPEAKER_02: He just he was just okay.
- 15:18SPEAKER_02: The first one was about his record collection, which is quite vast.
- 15:21SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 15:22SPEAKER_02: So we talked about that.
- 15:23SPEAKER_02: And then the second question was about I don't remember what the second question was, but the the he got the third question, he kinda he kind of grinned, he goes, I thought this was a great question.
- 15:31SPEAKER_02: He's like, uh, and it's about E popping out, ooh, that's my question.
- 15:35SPEAKER_04: You got your phone out.
- 15:36SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so then I was like, oh because we weren't allowed to take pictures during the show.
- 15:40SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 15:41SPEAKER_02: But the tormentor said, you know, feel free to take all the pictures and videos that you want during the QA.
- 15:45SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 15:46SPEAKER_02: So that's what I did.
- 15:47SPEAKER_04: Okay, so we don't know if we're technically allowed to play this on the podcast, but we also don't know if we're technically allowed to be playing music on the podcast.
- 15:56SPEAKER_04: We don't care.
- 15:56SPEAKER_04: So here we go.
- 15:58SPEAKER_04: So here we go.
- 15:58SPEAKER_04: So this is audio from the Henry Rollins show in Walderborough, Maine.
- 16:04SPEAKER_04: Uh Henry Rollins answering Doug's question about Iggy pop.
- 16:24SPEAKER_05: I don't think there's a ball to say I don't think there's anything remote like it.
- 16:28SPEAKER_05: There's a lot of great rock sectors.
- 16:38SPEAKER_05: These are all these people, it is really the public universe of whatever you need to do.
- 16:44SPEAKER_05: And so as a top 20 years ago, I said to myself, I don't know, output working on the open.
- 16:53SPEAKER_05: And so the first time we talked together, I thought about the open forty market, the depth of it, I don't want to talk about the depth of the open for equity, but they're gonna stop the um I wouldn't have been able to play that hard the next night, but um it was nice drawing.
- 20:02SPEAKER_05: So no, it never be.
- 20:04SPEAKER_05: And uh I met Iggy at least a hundred and fifty times.
- 20:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 20:08SPEAKER_02: So that's that's Henry versus Iggy.
- 20:11SPEAKER_02: Uh that's awesome.
- 20:13SPEAKER_02: That's awesome.
- 20:14SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 20:14SPEAKER_02: So it was a great show, and I was I'm glad I splurged and did the VIP thing, and uh it was very, very interesting, to say the least.
- 20:26SPEAKER_02: Very cool.
- 20:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I liked it.
- 20:27SPEAKER_02: I had a great time, and so I enjoyed myself immensely.
- 20:32SPEAKER_04: Well, we've been talking about going to a show together.
- 20:34SPEAKER_04: We haven't been to a show together since Big Hat and the Bare Naked Ladies?
- 20:39SPEAKER_04: Is that right?
- 20:40SPEAKER_02: I think so.
- 20:41SPEAKER_02: Right before uh yeah, that yeah, yeah.
- 20:44SPEAKER_02: So we sh we need to do something.
- 20:47SPEAKER_02: Well, we were gonna go to see John Hyde.
- 20:49SPEAKER_02: We were, but he f but he fell.
- 20:51SPEAKER_02: But he apparently jumped off a cliff or something.
- 20:54SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 20:55SPEAKER_02: He was I don't know.
- 20:56SPEAKER_02: He was hiking.
- 20:56SPEAKER_02: He was hiking and he's in his seventies.
- 20:58SPEAKER_02: Yes, so so he hurt himself pretty bad, so he had to cancel the tour.
- 21:02SPEAKER_02: So he was gonna be in Booth Bay Harbor, and I was like, oh man, that's great.
- 21:06SPEAKER_04: So we were gonna we were gonna try and go to it.
- 21:07SPEAKER_02: So um So that's out.
- 21:10SPEAKER_04: But you know, uh did you know that Big Head Todd is coming to um State Theater in Portland February 8th?
- 21:16SPEAKER_04: Really?
- 21:16SPEAKER_04: Or February, I think it's 8th or 18th, something like that.
- 21:19unknown: Wow.
- 21:20SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 21:21SPEAKER_04: So maybe you mean you mean Bob or something.
- 21:24SPEAKER_02: Bob, if you're listening, which I know you will be.
- 21:28SPEAKER_02: Think about it.
- 21:28SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 21:29SPEAKER_02: I'm sure he listens to us.
- 21:31SPEAKER_02: He's one of the 29.
- 21:33SPEAKER_02: Um.
- 21:34SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 21:36SPEAKER_04: Um, okay, so I was kind of looking at uh Ultimate Classic Rock as I am wont to do.
- 21:42SPEAKER_04: What?
- 21:43SPEAKER_04: Uh I know, right?
- 21:44SPEAKER_04: And I found this um article that's kind of right up our alley.
- 21:49SPEAKER_04: I think anyway.
- 21:50SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 21:52SPEAKER_04: Um, because we used to listen to these bands uh back in the day, and then Grunge took over.
- 21:59SPEAKER_04: And And I've talked about it before that I it took me a long time to warm up to Grunge.
- 22:04SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 22:04SPEAKER_04: I I didn't like Nirvana when they first came out.
- 22:07SPEAKER_04: Um Pearl Jam.
- 22:09SPEAKER_04: I like their first album.
- 22:10SPEAKER_02: And then I Their first album is still my favorite.
- 22:12SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 22:13SPEAKER_04: And then I lost interest.
- 22:14SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 22:14SPEAKER_04: Um you know, Soundgarden, same thing.
- 22:17SPEAKER_04: Uh it took a while to warm up to them.
- 22:19SPEAKER_04: I think they're amazing now.
- 22:21SPEAKER_04: I mean, they're just I mean um but we listened to a lot of I don't know, we I don't want to say we only listen to hairband music.
- 22:31SPEAKER_04: We listen to hairband music, but we listened to rock and roll from the late 80s, which was not all hairband.
- 22:37SPEAKER_04: It was a majority of it was a majority of it was, yes, but not all of it was.
- 22:43SPEAKER_04: Um see now I consider this is a slippery slope because I never considered Def Leopard a hairband.
- 22:57SPEAKER_02: Well no, you can't really because they were part of the new wave of British heavy metal in the late 70s, yes.
- 23:04SPEAKER_04: Be and and and their early music is very A C D C ish.
- 23:08SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 23:09SPEAKER_02: Um I mean if you listen to High and Dry and Right and uh On Through the Night On Through the Night, you know, it's it's nothing like hysteria.
- 23:17SPEAKER_04: And even Pyromania was kind of before hairbands.
- 23:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that was that was like that was at the cusp, right?
- 23:24SPEAKER_04: The hairband.
- 23:24SPEAKER_02: Exactly, because Montley Cru came out right around that same time and Well they uh do you consider Montley Cru the first hairband?
- 23:32SPEAKER_04: Because they did the whole makeup and hair.
- 23:35SPEAKER_04: Was Kiss a hairband?
- 23:37SPEAKER_04: That's a good point.
- 23:38SPEAKER_04: That's a good question, huh?
- 23:39SPEAKER_02: But uh Kiss was more of a shtick.
- 23:41SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it was well That was a show.
- 23:43SPEAKER_02: It was you know they're they were dressing up as characters and being Kiss.
- 23:47SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 23:47SPEAKER_04: You know Motley Crue was just dressing up.
- 23:49SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then poison and you know so on and so forth.
- 23:53SPEAKER_02: I I might you know I might go and say Motley Crue.
- 23:56SPEAKER_02: They might have been the first.
- 23:58SPEAKER_02: That I know of.
- 23:59SPEAKER_02: I mean, there might have been somebody before that.
- 24:00SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 24:01SPEAKER_04: Um anyway, this article is called 10 glam metal albums released after Nirvana's Nevermind that don't suck.
- 24:12SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 24:13SPEAKER_04: So, I mean, some of these I have.
- 24:16SPEAKER_04: Uh some of them I don't.
- 24:18SPEAKER_04: Some of them I've not even heard.
- 24:19SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 24:20SPEAKER_04: Um, but the majority of them I I own.
- 24:24SPEAKER_04: Um, actually.
- 24:25SPEAKER_04: I am not gonna say this album sucks.
- 24:28SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna because I'm a huge Def Leopard fan.
- 24:31SPEAKER_04: But I'm gonna say it's not their strongest.
- 24:32SPEAKER_02: Is it adornized?
- 24:34SPEAKER_04: It is.
- 24:34SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I didn't like that one.
- 24:35SPEAKER_04: It was it's it's obviously it was uh Steve Clark had passed.
- 24:39SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 24:40SPEAKER_04: He had a hand in writing a lot of some uh of the music, but Phil Collin, they were down there were four piece on that band that album.
- 24:47SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 24:47SPEAKER_04: Because Phil Collin played his guitar parts as well as Steve Clark's guitar parts.
- 24:51SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 24:51SPEAKER_04: So I you know, not that that's an excuse, but I think there was a lot of stuff going on.
- 25:00SPEAKER_02: But hysteria was hard to follow.
- 25:02SPEAKER_02: Yeah, nobody could follow it.
- 25:03SPEAKER_02: Because it was so freaking huge.
- 25:06SPEAKER_04: You know what I mean?
- 25:07SPEAKER_04: And I think even they uh admit that we can't follow that.
- 25:10SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's just like here's another album.
- 25:13SPEAKER_02: It's us.
- 25:13SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 25:14SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 25:14SPEAKER_02: You know, we're gonna pour some sugar on me, but it's pretty good.
- 25:19SPEAKER_04: We promise it's really us.
- 25:20SPEAKER_04: Um let me just give you a taste here because Do you wanna get rocked?
- 25:25SPEAKER_04: Yeah, that was that was poor.
- 25:29SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean, but the rest of the album.
- 25:38SPEAKER_04: I mean, there were some songs on there that lyrically.
- 25:48SPEAKER_04: Like talking about you know, um I'm personal property or sh I can't even remember if he's talking about himself or talking about.
- 25:56SPEAKER_02: It's hard to say with Joel.
- 25:57SPEAKER_04: Joelle, it's even saying So this is a song called Tonight.
- 26:02SPEAKER_04: Uh but this this one was a good one.
- 26:04SPEAKER_04: This of course, this one was older than Adrenalize.
- 26:09SPEAKER_04: They demoed this around the hysteria era.
- 26:12SPEAKER_04: It was never on hysteria.
- 26:14SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 26:14SPEAKER_04: But it was a leftover.
- 26:16SPEAKER_04: So, let's just tear it down.
- 26:24SPEAKER_04: So, I would say this album doesn't suck, but not one of their best.
- 26:29SPEAKER_04: Not one of their best, for sure.
- 26:30SPEAKER_02: I would agree with that.
- 26:31SPEAKER_04: Not one of their best.
- 26:32SPEAKER_02: And I do have this on cassette somewhat.
- 26:34SPEAKER_02: Do you have it on cassette?
- 26:35SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 26:35SPEAKER_02: Oh, nice.
- 26:36SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 26:37SPEAKER_04: Um the next one is from 1992.
- 26:42SPEAKER_04: Uh, and it is.
- 26:46SPEAKER_04: Whoops, hold on a second.
- 26:47SPEAKER_02: Steph Neppard again! It's not, it's not! Wow! I pushed the wrong button everywhere.
- 26:54SPEAKER_02: They were huge, man.
- 26:56SPEAKER_02: So huge they took up all the spots.
- 26:59SPEAKER_04: See if you can name this band.
- 27:19SPEAKER_02: Oh! Uh the gauge next to the cage.
- 27:28SPEAKER_02: Dang it, who is this?
- 27:34SPEAKER_04: It doesn't sound like there are other material.
- 27:37SPEAKER_04: Oh, it's kissed.
- 27:37SPEAKER_04: It is kiss.
- 27:38SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 27:38SPEAKER_04: Yeah, unholy.
- 27:39SPEAKER_04: Unholy, thank you.
- 27:40SPEAKER_04: Yeah, this is I think I had this on cassette too.
- 27:43SPEAKER_04: This is from the uh album Revenge, which came out in '92.
- 27:48SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 27:48SPEAKER_04: Uh they had Unholy, they had the uh ballad.
- 27:51SPEAKER_04: Remember, God gave rock and roll to you.
- 27:54SPEAKER_01: Right.
- 27:54SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I don't own this album.
- 27:56SPEAKER_04: Uh I like this song.
- 27:58SPEAKER_04: This is a good song.
- 27:59SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 28:05SPEAKER_02: It just seems heavier.
- 28:08SPEAKER_02: Well, I think they were trying to like ride that wave.
- 28:12SPEAKER_02: Probably.
- 28:12SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 28:13SPEAKER_02: Yep, probably.
- 28:13SPEAKER_02: So.
- 28:14SPEAKER_04: Um, I don't have anything from uh lined up to to play from this album.
- 28:19SPEAKER_04: Uh, and I don't even um I've never even heard this album.
- 28:22SPEAKER_04: This is Wasp.
- 28:24SPEAKER_04: The Crimson Idol.
- 28:25SPEAKER_02: No, I have no idea.
- 28:26SPEAKER_02: No idea.
- 28:26SPEAKER_04: I would I'm trying to think if if I know any of these songs.
- 28:28SPEAKER_02: I'm not even sure I know any Wasp songs.
- 28:30SPEAKER_04: Well, there was uh um Yeah, I knew one.
- 28:36SPEAKER_02: You know that one.
- 28:40SPEAKER_04: I can't think of the uh I can't think of the name of it.
- 28:43SPEAKER_04: Uh well just listen to some of the song titles on this album, which also came out in 1992.
- 28:49SPEAKER_04: Uh let's see.
- 28:50SPEAKER_04: Uh sprawling rock opera about the fictional rock star Jonathan Steele.
- 28:54SPEAKER_04: Arena of Pleasure, Dr.
- 28:57SPEAKER_04: Roctor, uh terrible.
- 29:00SPEAKER_04: Chainsaw Charlie, Murders in the New Morgue.
- 29:03SPEAKER_04: That's a song title?
- 29:05SPEAKER_06: Yes, it is.
- 29:06unknown: Wow.
- 29:07SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 29:07SPEAKER_04: So is this a concept album?
- 29:09SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
- 29:09SPEAKER_04: Oh I can't say whether it sucks or not, because I've never heard it.
- 29:13SPEAKER_04: So according to this person from Ultimate Classic Rock, it doesn't suck.
- 29:17SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 29:18SPEAKER_02: We'll take your word for it.
- 29:19SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
- 29:19SPEAKER_02: Man, I've never but I've never been a big wasp fan anyway.
- 29:22SPEAKER_04: Okay, see if you can name this.
- 29:23SPEAKER_04: I think you probably have this one.
- 29:25SPEAKER_04: See if you can name this bit.
- 29:29SPEAKER_04: It's warrant.
- 29:31SPEAKER_06: Wow.
- 29:33SPEAKER_04: Well, you have this.
- 29:34SPEAKER_04: Oh, I have this.
- 29:35SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
- 29:35SPEAKER_04: I have this.
- 29:36SPEAKER_04: This is from Dog Eat Dogs.
- 29:37SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 29:41SPEAKER_02: This was a very underrated album.
- 29:43SPEAKER_04: I think a lot of people say that.
- 29:44SPEAKER_02: Because you had uh Dirty Rod and Filthy, Stinkin' Rich.
- 29:47SPEAKER_02: Yep.
- 29:47SPEAKER_02: Then you had Cherry Pie.
- 29:48SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 29:49SPEAKER_02: Then this album came out, and this one was really good.
- 29:51SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 29:51SPEAKER_04: But it didn't really because I I didn't think it was as huge as the other two.
- 29:56SPEAKER_04: I think cherry pie gave them a bad taste.
- 29:58SPEAKER_04: Give people a bad taste, put a bad taste in their mouth.
- 30:00SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 30:01SPEAKER_04: Uh is this the one does um Doggy Dog have Uncle Tom's cabin on it?
- 30:07SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 30:07SPEAKER_02: I believe so, and I think it uh Oh just escaped my mind.
- 30:15SPEAKER_02: That's alright.
- 30:16SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
- 30:17SPEAKER_03: This is a machine gun, by the way.
- 30:19SPEAKER_02: This is a great song.
- 30:29SPEAKER_04: Yeah, see people don't realize how good some of these bands were because their image got in the way.
- 30:36SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and that's unfortunate.
- 30:38SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 30:41SPEAKER_04: Um, so let's see, going to the next one, which I think is a wholly underrated album.
- 30:50SPEAKER_04: Um, and uh let's see, where is it here?
- 30:54SPEAKER_04: I think deserves another visit, and that is uh extreme.
- 31:03SPEAKER_04: Also from 1992.
- 31:04SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 31:06SPEAKER_04: This is from Three Sides to Every Story.
- 31:08SPEAKER_04: This is a great, great album.
- 31:10SPEAKER_04: Um fantastic.
- 31:11SPEAKER_04: It's a it's it's a and it's almost a concept album.
- 31:15SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's it's in that vein.
- 31:17SPEAKER_02: It's not really, but I like the three-side concept.
- 31:20SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 31:21SPEAKER_02: So I I really I love this album.
- 31:23SPEAKER_04: Um but like Extreme, I mean we we talked about their new album, how it's all over the place.
- 31:30SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 31:30SPEAKER_02: This one is too.
- 31:31SPEAKER_02: This one was completely all over the place.
- 31:34SPEAKER_04: Let's talk and I remember this distinctly because I was in college when this came out down at the broadcasting school, and I was on the I was on the radio, the the college radio station down there.
- 31:48SPEAKER_04: And so this is this is rest in peace.
- 31:51SPEAKER_04: But this one was huge on the college radio station.
- 31:53SPEAKER_04: Stop the world.
- 31:54SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
- 31:55SPEAKER_04: Great song.
- 32:00SPEAKER_04: Just wholly underrated this album.
- 32:03SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I think.
- 32:04SPEAKER_02: Of course, there's a lot of anti-war songs on this song.
- 32:09SPEAKER_02: On this album.
- 32:10SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
- 32:10SPEAKER_02: So it wasn't really big on bass.
- 32:12SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna tell you that right now.
- 32:14SPEAKER_02: Because it's like, uh, that's our profession.
- 32:17SPEAKER_02: Right, yeah, yeah.
- 32:18SPEAKER_02: We get what you're saying, yeah, but it's still our job.
- 32:21SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 32:22SPEAKER_02: So, you know, you know, but I still love this album.
- 32:24SPEAKER_02: And I can understand it.
- 32:25SPEAKER_04: But I mean, musically.
- 32:26SPEAKER_02: Musically is a great album.
- 32:33SPEAKER_04: Duno did some amazing things on this album.
- 32:35SPEAKER_02: Uh, I'm thinking just does amazing things anyway.
- 32:38SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 32:39SPEAKER_02: Remember this one?
- 32:39SPEAKER_02: Oh, this is a great song.
- 33:01SPEAKER_07: I'm tired of being me, and I don't like what I see.
- 33:07SPEAKER_07: I do like it's a bee.
- 33:12SPEAKER_07: So I start off every day.
- 33:14SPEAKER_04: So I'm I'm looking for sound files from from the next album.
- 33:17SPEAKER_04: That's why I'm playing so much of this one.
- 33:19SPEAKER_04: I got you.
- 33:19SPEAKER_04: So let's see.
- 33:20SPEAKER_04: Uh oh, here we go.
- 33:22SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 33:22SPEAKER_04: So the next one.
- 33:24SPEAKER_04: The next one also came out in 1992.
- 33:26SPEAKER_04: Apparently.
- 33:27SPEAKER_04: That was a good year for music.
- 33:28SPEAKER_04: It was a good year, it was a good year for music, but I agree this is a great album.
- 33:33SPEAKER_04: Um, well, let me just I wanna I wanna play one that you that everybody knows.
- 33:40SPEAKER_04: So I'm gonna play this one.
- 33:58SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
- 34:14SPEAKER_04: It is.
- 34:14SPEAKER_04: Wow.
- 34:15SPEAKER_04: Right?
- 34:15SPEAKER_04: Which album is this?
- 34:16SPEAKER_04: This is Keep the Faith.
- 34:17SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
- 34:18SPEAKER_04: This is a song called If I Was Your Mother.
- 34:20SPEAKER_04: Gotcha.
- 34:23SPEAKER_04: Right?
- 34:23SPEAKER_04: Heavy.
- 34:27SPEAKER_04: But that's why I didn't want to start with something like Oh, yeah.
- 34:31SPEAKER_02: I would have known the album.
- 34:33SPEAKER_02: Like, oh yeah, gotcha.
- 34:35SPEAKER_04: You would have known.
- 34:36SPEAKER_02: But great album.
- 34:38SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't have this album on cassette, CD, anything.
- 34:42SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 34:43SPEAKER_02: I have the greatest heads, and this is a few of those songs on it.
- 34:47SPEAKER_04: Some of the B sides, uh, have you ever heard this one is a 10-minute song?
- 34:52SPEAKER_04: Dry County?
- 34:53SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 34:53SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
- 34:54SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 34:54SPEAKER_04: I gotta forward to Richie's guitar solo because it's a ballad.
- 35:04SPEAKER_04: It starts that way, right?
- 35:07SPEAKER_04: And then it gets to this part.
- 35:11SPEAKER_04: And this is the most rockin' I've heard Richie Sambora play guitar.
- 35:16SPEAKER_04: Like shredding.
- 35:17SPEAKER_04: And it's not even shredding, but it's just a lot of people.
- 36:21SPEAKER_04: Um again, another underrated album, I guess.
- 36:24SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 36:25SPEAKER_04: Um so another one from I want to say, oh no, it's a year after, 1993.
- 36:32SPEAKER_04: Uh I will play one song from this one and then we'll move on.
- 36:36SPEAKER_04: Um Let's see if you can get this, because I don't think this was huge for them.
- 36:51SPEAKER_08: Faithfully praise you the skies unto his eyes, and salvage the goodness of dreams never live.
- 37:16SPEAKER_04: Can't name it.
- 37:17SPEAKER_02: Nope.
- 37:19SPEAKER_02: Sounds really familiar.
- 37:29SPEAKER_04: The out the song is called Blind Revolution Mad.
- 37:34SPEAKER_04: And it was one of the only songs released that I know of from Pull.
- 37:41SPEAKER_04: What?
- 37:41SPEAKER_04: The album is called Pull.
- 37:44SPEAKER_03: Pull?
- 37:44SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 37:49SPEAKER_04: They're their their kind of their streak was ruined by Beavis and Butthead.
- 37:56SPEAKER_02: Is this Winger?
- 37:58SPEAKER_02: It is.
- 37:58SPEAKER_04: Wow.
- 37:59SPEAKER_04: I don't think I've ever heard this.
- 38:00SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 38:02SPEAKER_04: From the album Pull.
- 38:07SPEAKER_04: Which according to Ultimate Classic Rock is one of the albums that doesn't suck.
- 38:13SPEAKER_04: And I have to say, I'm I'm big back into Winter Winger.
- 38:19SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
- 38:20SPEAKER_04: Because of that new album.
- 38:22SPEAKER_04: I just went back, I went back and listened to the older stuff, and it's that's an underrated band.
- 38:28SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah.
- 38:39SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 38:39SPEAKER_04: Anyway, so um so that's on the list.
- 38:43SPEAKER_04: And then one from 1994, which I don't have.
- 38:47SPEAKER_04: And I I don't really have a lot from this band because I don't like them very much.
- 38:52SPEAKER_04: Can you tell me who that is?
- 38:53SPEAKER_02: Common crossword.
- 38:56SPEAKER_04: Hold on.
- 38:57SPEAKER_04: We weren't even together then.
- 38:59SPEAKER_04: No, we weren't.
- 39:01SPEAKER_04: Um yeah, and I I have always said that I'm not a huge fan of this band.
- 39:05SPEAKER_04: Metallica.
- 39:05SPEAKER_04: No.
- 39:06SPEAKER_04: No, I'm I'm a fan of Metallica.
- 39:07SPEAKER_04: Well, now you are.
- 39:08SPEAKER_04: Well, that's true.
- 39:09SPEAKER_04: I wasn't then.
- 39:10SPEAKER_04: Uh I I was a fan then, but I wasn't a huge fan of this.
- 39:13SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 39:14SPEAKER_04: Um this band this band had a new lead singer.
- 39:17SPEAKER_04: And they put out one album with him.
- 39:21SPEAKER_04: And regarded as a forgotten album.
- 39:51SPEAKER_02: Motley Crew.
- 39:52SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 39:53unknown: Yeah.
- 39:53SPEAKER_04: Motley Crew with John Karmi.
- 39:55SPEAKER_02: Oh, that one.
- 39:56SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 39:56SPEAKER_02: Uh Generation Swine?
- 39:57SPEAKER_04: Actually, no.
- 39:59SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
- 40:01SPEAKER_04: Um, yeah.
- 40:02SPEAKER_04: Uh Generation Swine, I think, was when Vince Neal went back with them.
- 40:05SPEAKER_02: Oh, was that what it?
- 40:06SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 40:06SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 40:06SPEAKER_02: I thought that was a Karate one.
- 40:08SPEAKER_04: Nope.
- 40:08SPEAKER_04: Uh Generation Swine, I think, was the one with uh uh what's her name?
- 40:12SPEAKER_04: From Hole on drums.
- 40:14SPEAKER_02: Oh, Samantha.
- 40:15SPEAKER_02: Samantha Oh geez, what was her name?
- 40:18SPEAKER_02: Samantha Samantha.
- 40:19SPEAKER_04: Yeah, she was great.
- 40:20SPEAKER_04: Oh, she was awesome.
- 40:21SPEAKER_04: And I'm not sure I don't think she played on the record, but she did play on that tour.
- 40:25SPEAKER_04: Yeah, she played on that tour.
- 40:26SPEAKER_04: Um but yeah, I think Generation Swine was Vince Neil's album after they got rid of it.
- 40:32SPEAKER_04: That could be or after John left.
- 40:34SPEAKER_04: I'm not sure how that happened.
- 40:35SPEAKER_04: But they they got back with Vince Neal.
- 40:37SPEAKER_04: So uh this is another one I don't have.
- 40:40SPEAKER_04: It's a band I like.
- 40:41SPEAKER_04: Uh I don't have any music from it.
- 40:43SPEAKER_04: I'm trying to look and see if there's any there's no um let me let me type in the song that they live here because I don't think I've heard anything from this album.
- 40:55SPEAKER_04: Uh what's the song called again?
- 40:58SPEAKER_04: Let me do let me do this one.
- 41:04SPEAKER_04: Uh you'll be able to you'll be you'll be able to name the band uh once you hear the voice.
- 41:16SPEAKER_04: This is also from ninety-four.
- 41:27SPEAKER_04: So this is the first album in four years.
- 41:33SPEAKER_04: Well, I should say.
- 41:35SPEAKER_04: The last album came out in 1990, but the lead singer lost his voice and had several vocal surgeries, vocal cord surgeries.
- 41:44SPEAKER_04: So this is the first album after that.
- 41:51SPEAKER_04: I've I've not heard anything from this album before.
- 42:35SPEAKER_02: Oh, it's just a narrow.
- 42:37SPEAKER_04: It is.
- 42:37SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, it is.
- 42:41SPEAKER_04: This is from an album called Still Climbing.
- 42:44SPEAKER_04: No, I don't have this.
- 42:45SPEAKER_04: In uh in 1994, it was the follow-up to Heartbreak Station.
- 42:49SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 42:49SPEAKER_04: Um again, I've never heard this album.
- 42:52SPEAKER_02: Never, I have never either, but I will say this long cold winter is probably the best album.
- 42:58SPEAKER_04: Oh, from that era?
- 42:59SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 43:00SPEAKER_04: Oh, are you kidding me?
- 43:01SPEAKER_02: That is that's an incredible album.
- 43:02SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 43:03SPEAKER_04: Um to this day, one of my favorite songs from that whole like late 80s thing is a song called The Last Mile.
- 43:13SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
- 43:14SPEAKER_04: That's a great song.
- 43:15SPEAKER_04: Uh and Coming Home.
- 43:16SPEAKER_04: Coming home, yeah.
- 43:17SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 43:17SPEAKER_04: All good songs.
- 43:18SPEAKER_04: What was it?
- 43:18SPEAKER_04: Seamstress Blues?
- 43:19SPEAKER_04: Seamstress Blues.
- 43:20SPEAKER_04: That's Seamstress Blues, yeah.
- 43:22SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
- 43:22SPEAKER_04: And of course, Gypsy Road is on there.
- 43:24SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
- 43:25SPEAKER_04: It just doesn't get much better.
- 43:26SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 43:27SPEAKER_04: Uh, and then the last the last one I've also not heard.
- 43:32SPEAKER_04: Let me see if I can get a song from that.
- 43:36SPEAKER_04: I was never a huge fan of this band.
- 43:39SPEAKER_04: Um except the well, the first album when they first came out, it was huge.
- 43:45SPEAKER_00: Um what was that?
- 43:47SPEAKER_04: Hold on a second.
- 43:51SPEAKER_04: There we go.
- 43:53SPEAKER_04: See if you can name this band.
- 44:29SPEAKER_04: Hearing this stuff makes me want to go back and get some of this.
- 44:44SPEAKER_02: Is this Kid Row?
- 44:46SPEAKER_03: It is.
- 44:46SPEAKER_03: It is Kidrow.
- 44:50SPEAKER_02: This isn't Slave to the Grind.
- 44:52SPEAKER_04: No, this is the follow-up.
- 44:54SPEAKER_04: Slave to the Grind was in 91.
- 44:56SPEAKER_04: Then they came out with an album in 95 called Subhuman Race.
- 45:00SPEAKER_02: Okay, yeah, I don't.
- 45:01SPEAKER_02: I never I think I was out of them by then.
- 45:03SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 45:04SPEAKER_04: This is a song called My Enemy.
- 45:10SPEAKER_04: Right?
- 45:11SPEAKER_04: I mean it's This is pretty great.
- 45:14SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I mean And I'm not sure.
- 45:16SPEAKER_02: This may be this may be the last one that Yeah, I'm gonna say after that, I don't think they did anything.
- 45:23SPEAKER_02: I just want to well like after the mid-90s.
- 45:26SPEAKER_04: Oh no, they have.
- 45:28SPEAKER_04: Um let's see.
- 45:30SPEAKER_04: They they've done music, they've got a new couple new links here.
- 45:34SPEAKER_04: But I mean, I don't think that I think this may be the last album with Sebastian.
- 45:39SPEAKER_02: Could be, yeah.
- 45:40SPEAKER_04: I want to see uh I'm on their Wikipedia now.
- 45:44SPEAKER_04: Let's see.
- 45:46SPEAKER_04: Um so this is the last album Sub Human Race from 1995 is the last album with with Sebastian Bach.
- 45:56SPEAKER_04: The next album wouldn't come out until 2003 with new lead singer Johnny Stollinger.
- 46:03SPEAKER_04: And then they released uh one, two, three albums with with Johnny Stollinger.
- 46:07SPEAKER_04: So Yeah, but no, that's a I mean this is this is pretty good.
- 46:12SPEAKER_04: Kick butt.
- 46:12SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 46:13SPEAKER_04: And you can tell it's also um most of the stuff that we've listened to is not how because they're calling it glam metal, right?
- 46:24SPEAKER_04: Not really.
- 46:25SPEAKER_04: It's but it's it's darker.
- 46:27SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's like they're a little heavier.
- 46:29SPEAKER_04: It's like they're trying to stick with it, except for Def Leopard, maybe, but but they're trying to, you know, blend in with the grunge a little bit and still do their thing.
- 46:37SPEAKER_02: Well, you you noticed after grunge came out, the you know, the the hair and the makeup kind of went away.
- 46:42SPEAKER_02: Went away, and then you're like, oh, okay, so oh, that's what KISS looks like.
- 46:47SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 46:47SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 46:48SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 46:48SPEAKER_02: Put the makeup back on, boys.
- 46:51SPEAKER_04: Well, I mean, the whole Metallica era, the load and reload era, right?
- 46:55SPEAKER_04: Where they cut their hair and everybody made a big deal about it.
- 46:58SPEAKER_02: But they had already established themselves by then, you know.
- 47:01SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 47:01SPEAKER_02: And I I mean, I know the old, you know, the old metal heads are like, what are you doing?
- 47:07SPEAKER_02: But they you know you know, I don't think Metallica really cares.
- 47:10SPEAKER_02: I don't think they do either.
- 47:12SPEAKER_02: You know.
- 47:12SPEAKER_02: They're worth, you know, ten bazillion dollars now.
- 47:15SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 47:15SPEAKER_02: They don't really care.
- 47:17SPEAKER_02: They're gonna do whatever they want.
- 47:19SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
- 47:19SPEAKER_02: And we're gonna love it.
- 47:20SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 47:21SPEAKER_04: Exactly.
- 47:21SPEAKER_04: So that's it.
- 47:22SPEAKER_04: Uh ten glam metal albums before uh that came out after, nevermind.
- 47:27SPEAKER_04: That don't suck.
- 47:28SPEAKER_04: There you go.
- 47:29SPEAKER_04: I think there's probably more than that.
- 47:30SPEAKER_04: Oh, there's way more than that.
- 47:31SPEAKER_04: But uh But those are good ones.
- 47:33SPEAKER_04: Yeah, those are good ones.
- 47:34SPEAKER_04: So all right.
- 47:35SPEAKER_04: I like them a lot.
- 47:36SPEAKER_04: Let's do let's do this rot here.
- 47:39SPEAKER_04: Let's do the alphabet.
- 47:42SPEAKER_04: When are we gonna do them?
- 47:46SPEAKER_04: We'll do that, um, we'll do that after the alphabet.
- 47:48SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 47:49SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 47:50SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 47:51SPEAKER_04: I'll get that ready while you do the alphabet.
- 47:52SPEAKER_02: I'm just really excited.
- 47:53SPEAKER_04: Yeah, okay.
- 47:54SPEAKER_04: I'll get that ready while you do the alphabet.
- 48:02SPEAKER_02: What letter are we on?
- 48:03SPEAKER_02: I don't even remember.
- 48:06SPEAKER_02: Oh, we're on T.
- 48:07SPEAKER_02: Wait, did we we never got to this one?
- 48:09SPEAKER_02: We didn't we didn't get to this one.
- 48:11SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 48:17SPEAKER_04: So this is this is the Metal Legends alphabet.
- 48:21SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna say it's testament.
- 48:23SPEAKER_04: Nope.
- 48:24SPEAKER_04: It's not testament.
- 48:25SPEAKER_04: Nope.
- 48:26SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna say it is metal?
- 48:30SPEAKER_04: Tool.
- 48:31SPEAKER_04: It is tool.
- 48:32SPEAKER_04: It is tool.
- 48:32SPEAKER_04: Tool!
- 48:33SPEAKER_02: Alright.
- 48:33SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I'll give him that, I guess.
- 48:35SPEAKER_02: Absolutely, man.
- 48:36SPEAKER_02: G is for tool.
- 48:38SPEAKER_02: The more traditional heavy metal sounds on their demo.
- 48:41SPEAKER_02: 72826 transitioned into a defining mix of progressive and alternative metal on the Grammy winning enema.
- 48:52SPEAKER_02: Since then the album.
- 48:55SPEAKER_02: The album.
- 48:56SPEAKER_02: Not not not the medical procedure.
- 49:00SPEAKER_02: You won a Grammy for that.
- 49:02SPEAKER_02: No, no, no.
- 49:03SPEAKER_02: They're revealed, they'll give a Grammy for anything.
- 49:05SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 49:06SPEAKER_02: Since then, these legends, these legends from LA with a hatred for music streaming services have won another two Grammys.
- 49:13SPEAKER_04: So I didn't realize they had a hatred for streaming services.
- 49:16SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, when you when you I mean they're on, like Apple and stuff like that.
- 49:20SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 49:21SPEAKER_02: But there's no album art.
- 49:23SPEAKER_04: There's Oh right, right, right.
- 49:25SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 49:26SPEAKER_02: You know, they it's it's it's there, but it's it's it's there grudgingly, I think.
- 49:32SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 49:33SPEAKER_02: But I love tool, and I know Joel loves tool.
- 49:36SPEAKER_04: So let's do our let's let's have our moment.
- 49:41SPEAKER_02: Are we gonna play a tool song?
- 49:43SPEAKER_02: Isn't that our thing?
- 49:44SPEAKER_02: We played Raining Blood last time.
- 49:46SPEAKER_04: Well we can play a tool song.
- 49:48SPEAKER_04: We don't normally play a tool song, do we?
- 49:50SPEAKER_02: Well no, that's our new thing.
- 49:52SPEAKER_04: Oh, it's our new thing.
- 49:53SPEAKER_02: It's our new thing.
- 49:53SPEAKER_02: Remember, you were gonna like, you know, just just, you know, in case you didn't know anything about tool?
- 49:58SPEAKER_04: Uh give me one.
- 50:00SPEAKER_04: Uh I don't I don't know much about tool.
- 50:03SPEAKER_02: Uh what was that?
- 50:04SPEAKER_02: What's that?
- 50:04SPEAKER_02: 46 and 46 and 2?
- 50:06SPEAKER_02: Yeah, 46 and 2.
- 50:07SPEAKER_02: That's a great because that's a great baseline.
- 50:09SPEAKER_04: Okay, let's do that.
- 50:55SPEAKER_04: I will be honest and say, I don't own any tool.
- 50:59SPEAKER_02: I have everything.
- 51:00SPEAKER_04: Do you?
- 51:01SPEAKER_04: Yes, I love tools.
- 51:02SPEAKER_04: Which is not very much, right?
- 51:04SPEAKER_02: They've only got five albums.
- 51:08SPEAKER_02: Five albums, and they've been around a long time.
- 51:10SPEAKER_02: They've been around a long time, but they take some a long time between albums.
- 51:13SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 51:14SPEAKER_02: But uh Dana Carey is one of the best drummers out there.
- 51:18SPEAKER_02: Really?
- 51:19SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 51:23SPEAKER_02: So it's and fun fact James Maynard Keenan went to West Point.
- 51:29SPEAKER_04: Maynard James Keenan?
- 51:31SPEAKER_04: That what did I say?
- 51:32SPEAKER_04: James Maynard Keenan.
- 51:33SPEAKER_02: I have no idea.
- 51:34SPEAKER_02: That guy.
- 51:35SPEAKER_04: For all for all we know, his name is James Maynard Keenan.
- 51:38SPEAKER_04: Could be actually.
- 51:40SPEAKER_02: Anyway, he went to West Point.
- 51:42SPEAKER_02: Did he?
- 51:42SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 51:43SPEAKER_02: He didn't graduate, but he went to West Point.
- 51:45SPEAKER_02: So who uh do you know who plays guitar for them?
- 51:48SPEAKER_02: I can't think of his name.
- 51:51SPEAKER_04: Not really known.
- 51:53SPEAKER_04: I mean, it's more rhythmic, isn't it?
- 51:56SPEAKER_02: It's more, it's math metal.
- 51:57SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 51:57SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 51:59SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 51:59SPEAKER_02: You know, like the Fibonacci sequence and the enter type middle, you know what I mean?
- 52:03SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 52:03SPEAKER_04: So wholly influential though.
- 52:14SPEAKER_04: I mean, right?
- 52:14SPEAKER_04: Very influential part.
- 52:15SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 52:16SPEAKER_02: I mean, duel is just like up there.
- 52:18SPEAKER_04: So they deserve to be in that book, the metal.
- 52:21SPEAKER_02: Good job, Beck.
- 52:22SPEAKER_04: Cool, cool, cool.
- 52:23SPEAKER_04: Alright, let's do uh let's do our.
- 52:26SPEAKER_04: It's my favorite part of the show.
- 52:27SPEAKER_04: We don't have any intro yet.
- 52:29SPEAKER_04: We need to we need to work on that.
- 52:32SPEAKER_04: We should get Michael McDonald to intro it.
- 52:34SPEAKER_02: Like, hey, I'm Michael McDonald.
- 52:35SPEAKER_02: This is O'Brien and Doug, and I love them very much because they love me.
- 52:39SPEAKER_02: And this is the Michael McDonald moment.
- 52:44SPEAKER_02: Thank you very much.
- 52:44SPEAKER_02: I'm Michael McDonald.
- 52:45SPEAKER_02: I'm the best guy ever.
- 52:47SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 52:47SPEAKER_04: So, and we said that we were going to do stuff that um like Michael McDonald is involved in, like in the periphery.
- 52:55SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 52:56SPEAKER_04: You know, uh we'll do his stuff too, but like, for example.
- 53:02SPEAKER_04: This is Steely Dan's peg.
- 53:05SPEAKER_04: Hank.
- 53:06SPEAKER_04: Great song.
- 53:08SPEAKER_04: This is the one with that uh awesome guitar solo by Jay uh Gray.
- 53:13SPEAKER_02: Jay Graydon.
- 53:14SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 53:16SPEAKER_02: I still I still name it.
- 53:18SPEAKER_02: That story that Steve Lucather tells about when Jay came up with that solo.
- 53:24SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 53:24SPEAKER_02: He was taking a dump and he takes his clothes off and he takes a dump and he came up with it completely.
- 53:28SPEAKER_02: Taking a dump and naked.
- 53:32SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 53:32SPEAKER_04: Lucuther, man, he can tell a story.
- 53:34SPEAKER_02: That dude is hilarious!
- 53:38SPEAKER_04: So listen.
- 53:40SPEAKER_04: Oh almost.
- 53:41SPEAKER_04: Almost.
- 53:46SPEAKER_04: Michael McDonald has worked with Steely Dan a lot.
- 53:48SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah.
- 53:52SPEAKER_04: It was all over almost every album in the 70s and 80s.
- 53:56SPEAKER_04: That's kind of an exaggeration, but it seems that way.
- 54:02SPEAKER_02: Here we go, here we go.
- 54:22SPEAKER_04: Alright, now I'm gonna isolate that because not a lot of people know that that's making Michael McDonald doing all of the background.
- 54:30SPEAKER_04: Everything is layered.
- 54:46SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it's it's like a little bit he's got such a unique and instantly recognizable voice.
- 55:17SPEAKER_02: Michael Okay, I have a question.
- 55:29SPEAKER_02: Is he saying shadow fall?
- 55:32SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 55:33SPEAKER_02: Where?
- 55:33SPEAKER_02: Right here.
- 55:36SPEAKER_06: Shadow falls that shadow fall.
- 55:40SPEAKER_02: Shore do fall.
- 55:41SPEAKER_02: Oh, shore do fall?
- 55:42SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
- 55:42SPEAKER_02: Is it foreign movie?
- 55:43SPEAKER_02: Foreign movie.
- 55:44SPEAKER_04: Hold on.
- 55:44SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 55:45SPEAKER_04: Let's see.
- 55:47SPEAKER_04: Let me let me look up at the lyrics here.
- 55:49SPEAKER_04: Because Shudder Falls.
- 55:57SPEAKER_04: Shudder.
- 55:58SPEAKER_04: Because it's Peg will come back to you.
- 56:00SPEAKER_04: Peg will come back to you.
- 56:01SPEAKER_04: Then the shutter uh shutter falls.
- 56:05SPEAKER_04: You see it all in 3D, and that's when he says foreign movie.
- 56:08SPEAKER_04: It's your favorite foreign movie.
- 56:09SPEAKER_04: Gotcha.
- 56:10SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
- 56:11SPEAKER_04: Um, that's the baseline for Peg, yeah.
- 56:16SPEAKER_04: Uh so Michael McDonald.
- 56:18SPEAKER_04: Oh, sorry.
- 56:19SPEAKER_04: Sorry.
- 56:19SPEAKER_04: Maybe Michael.
- 56:21SPEAKER_04: That's our intro.
- 56:22SPEAKER_04: The Michael McDonald moment.
- 56:29SPEAKER_09: It's now time for Wait, wait.
- 56:33SPEAKER_04: And then we I know what we can do for the end of the Michael McDonald moment.
- 56:38SPEAKER_04: There we go.
- 56:41SPEAKER_04: Yes! You heard it here first, folks.
- 56:45SPEAKER_04: All right.
- 56:45SPEAKER_04: Oh, we forgot to close this.
- 56:47SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 56:48SPEAKER_04: That was the uh the Metal Legends alphabet.
- 56:51SPEAKER_04: All right, so we're gonna take a break.
- 56:52SPEAKER_04: And uh I'm gonna check and make sure everything's still recording.
- 56:55SPEAKER_02: And then we're going to And if it's not, we're gonna stop the podcast forever.
- 57:00SPEAKER_02: Forever.
- 57:01SPEAKER_02: You won't hear us again.
- 57:02SPEAKER_02: Never ever.
- 57:03SPEAKER_04: Not that I think we'll be missed, but whatever.
- 57:05SPEAKER_02: We'll be like, oh, these guys are still on?
- 57:08SPEAKER_04: The frag.
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- 58:17SPEAKER_02: It was his birthday last week.
- 58:18SPEAKER_04: Yes, it was.
- 58:19SPEAKER_04: And he was in he was in Hawaii.
- 58:20SPEAKER_04: He actually sent me.
- 58:22SPEAKER_04: I wonder if I could uh play it.
- 58:24SPEAKER_04: He sent me something uh on Facebook.
- 58:27SPEAKER_04: Um and he I think he I think he actually had a I I think he thought that I was offended by it because I didn't respond right away.
- 58:37SPEAKER_04: Because he sent me a it's like a reel with uh Steve Martin.
- 58:40SPEAKER_04: I don't know if he sent it to you or not.
- 58:43SPEAKER_04: Um but he said and then I didn't respond right away because I was too busy.
- 58:49SPEAKER_04: I think I was teaching when he sent it to me.
- 58:51SPEAKER_04: Um and he says, I just thought this was funny.
- 58:56SPEAKER_04: Sorry if it was inappropriate, but I thought a guitar player would appreciate it.
- 59:00SPEAKER_04: Laugh out loud.
- 59:01SPEAKER_04: And I said, No, I love it.
- 59:03SPEAKER_04: Seen it before, and absolutely true.
- 59:05SPEAKER_04: And this is what it was.
- 59:06SPEAKER_04: I wonder if I can play it on here.
- 59:07SPEAKER_04: Let's see.
- 59:09SPEAKER_04: So this is Steve Martin talking about the difference between a banjo and an electric guitar.
- 59:15SPEAKER_04: Are you ready?
- 59:16SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 59:19SPEAKER_00: The banjo has a round pot, it's called with a skin head stretched over the top, and it projects the sound outward, and the guitar can get you laid.
- 59:30SPEAKER_04: I thought that was hilarious, and he I don't know if he thought if he thought he offended me or not.
- 59:35SPEAKER_02: It is a true story.
- 59:36SPEAKER_04: It is a true story.
- 59:38SPEAKER_04: So uh yeah.
- 59:40SPEAKER_04: Uh so yes, happy birthday.
- 59:41SPEAKER_02: And as a drummer, I can say that.
- 59:43SPEAKER_04: Happy birthday, Larry.
- 59:44SPEAKER_04: Happy birthday! Um, so uh it's time to uh climb the wall of tunes, but before we do that, we're going to are we gonna give uh one like revisionist history from Doug or whatever it is?
- 59:56SPEAKER_04: What's it called again?
- 59:58SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't have anything.
- 1:00:00SPEAKER_04: You don't have anything?
- 1:00:01SPEAKER_02: No.
- 1:00:01SPEAKER_04: Alright.
- 1:00:02SPEAKER_02: I was just I was I was just gonna make up a Michael McDonald fact.
- 1:00:06SPEAKER_04: Okay, do that.
- 1:00:07SPEAKER_04: Do that.
- 1:00:07SPEAKER_04: And while you do that, I'm gonna take off my headphones and get an album.
- 1:00:10SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 1:00:10SPEAKER_02: Do you want me to make up one or do you want me to actually read one?
- 1:00:14SPEAKER_04: Do you have them right there?
- 1:00:15SPEAKER_04: No.
- 1:00:16SPEAKER_04: Yeah, let's let's read one.
- 1:00:17SPEAKER_04: Okay, let's look up a Michael McDonald's.
- 1:00:19SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:00:20SPEAKER_02: Okay, because Okay, so I'll be I don't know what's happening! Okay.
- 1:00:27SPEAKER_02: I'm alright.
- 1:00:27SPEAKER_02: Don't worry.
- 1:00:29SPEAKER_04: So this will be like an extension of our Michael McDonald moment.
- 1:00:32SPEAKER_02: Yeah, uh Michael Fox Jackson McDonald.
- 1:00:37SPEAKER_02: Mac McDonald.
- 1:00:38SPEAKER_02: Okay, there it is.
- 1:00:40SPEAKER_02: Okay, so let's uh Well Let's see here.
- 1:00:46SPEAKER_02: Let's check out his wiki page.
- 1:00:47SPEAKER_04: Okay, while you're doing that, okay I'm gonna get up and find another one.
- 1:00:51SPEAKER_02: Alrighty.
- 1:00:56SPEAKER_02: Let's see.
- 1:00:59SPEAKER_02: I'm already done.
- 1:01:00SPEAKER_02: Well, that was quick.
- 1:01:01SPEAKER_02: I didn't even come up with a fact.
- 1:01:05SPEAKER_02: He was in a band called the Dukes of September.
- 1:01:07SPEAKER_04: I I knew that.
- 1:01:09SPEAKER_04: Actually, you know, he went on tour with uh Donald Fagan and somebody else.
- 1:01:17SPEAKER_04: I can't remember who it was, but they called the tour that.
- 1:01:20SPEAKER_04: Or something like that.
- 1:01:22SPEAKER_04: Dukes of September, yeah.
- 1:01:23SPEAKER_02: Do you know he's he did you know he was been he's been married to the same woman since 1983?
- 1:01:28SPEAKER_04: I did not.
- 1:01:29SPEAKER_04: That's impressive in this business.
- 1:01:30SPEAKER_02: That's what I'm saying, yeah.
- 1:01:31SPEAKER_02: Her name is Amy Holland.
- 1:01:34SPEAKER_02: And they have two kids.
- 1:01:36SPEAKER_02: Isn't she an actress too?
- 1:01:37SPEAKER_02: Or she's a singer.
- 1:01:38SPEAKER_02: She's a singer.
- 1:01:39SPEAKER_02: I don't know what she sings.
- 1:01:40SPEAKER_04: Oh yes, no, no, I know.
- 1:01:42SPEAKER_04: I've heard her.
- 1:01:43SPEAKER_04: Hold on.
- 1:01:44SPEAKER_04: Yeah, you keep looking.
- 1:01:50SPEAKER_01: She has a wrong career.
- 1:01:54SPEAKER_04: Oh yes, I have seen her.
- 1:01:58SPEAKER_04: Uh I'll just play this while you're looking.
- 1:02:00SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 1:02:01SPEAKER_04: This is Michael McDonald's wife.
- 1:02:14SPEAKER_04: Let me know when you find something.
- 1:02:16SPEAKER_02: Well, her song, She's on Fire, uh-huh, is in the video game Grand Theft Auto 3.
- 1:02:24SPEAKER_09: I'm not strong.
- 1:02:25SPEAKER_02: Really?
- 1:02:26SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:02:32SPEAKER_02: Well, we have to play it now.
- 1:02:34SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:02:37SPEAKER_02: This doesn't really sound like a Grand Theft Auto song, but okay.
- 1:02:44SPEAKER_02: It sounds more like uh fame uh not fame, but uh you know what I'm talking about?
- 1:02:48SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I do.
- 1:02:49SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:02:51SPEAKER_04: Almost sounds like Laura Brannigan.
- 1:02:53SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm thinking of.
- 1:02:54SPEAKER_04: Yes, thank you.
- 1:02:58SPEAKER_04: Is she still performing the screen?
- 1:03:14SPEAKER_04: So is that what we're going with for the for the fact?
- 1:03:16SPEAKER_04: I'm I'm I'm done.
- 1:03:17SPEAKER_04: Is is Amy Holland?
- 1:03:18SPEAKER_02: Well, no, I was just, you know, that uh he was in a band called the Dukes of September.
- 1:03:22SPEAKER_02: There you go.
- 1:03:22SPEAKER_02: Which I thought was kind of cool because I didn't know.
- 1:03:24SPEAKER_02: That works.
- 1:03:25SPEAKER_04: That works.
- 1:03:26SPEAKER_04: Alright.
- 1:03:27SPEAKER_04: So it's time now to climb the wall of tunes.
- 1:03:29SPEAKER_04: Now that I've done that, uh, I have an album.
- 1:03:33SPEAKER_04: So Yeah, well, I don't care.
- 1:03:35SPEAKER_04: I'm gonna go ahead and say.
- 1:03:37SPEAKER_04: Don't care.
- 1:03:39SPEAKER_04: Let the guessing begin.
- 1:03:40SPEAKER_04: Don't care! Alright.
- 1:03:42SPEAKER_02: I'm O'Brien.
- 1:03:44SPEAKER_02: End of podcast! It's probably not recording anyway.
- 1:03:49SPEAKER_04: I didn't want to say that, but is it right?
- 1:03:52SPEAKER_04: No, it is.
- 1:03:54SPEAKER_04: I think it's it says it is.
- 1:03:56SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's what it said last time, too.
- 1:03:57SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's true.
- 1:03:58SPEAKER_02: Alright, so uh here we go.
- 1:04:00SPEAKER_02: Uh is it a band?
- 1:04:04SPEAKER_04: No, it's a solo artist.
- 1:04:05SPEAKER_02: It's a solo.
- 1:04:06SPEAKER_02: Is it a man or is it a woman?
- 1:04:08SPEAKER_04: It is a man.
- 1:04:09SPEAKER_04: It is a man.
- 1:04:12SPEAKER_02: Mata good man.
- 1:04:16SPEAKER_01: What genre?
- 1:04:18SPEAKER_01: Rock?
- 1:04:18SPEAKER_01: Pop rock.
- 1:04:19SPEAKER_01: Pop rock.
- 1:04:29SPEAKER_02: You're distracted.
- 1:04:30SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
- 1:04:30SPEAKER_02: I'm still it's it's what I do to make myself think.
- 1:04:33SPEAKER_04: Oh, is that is that what happens?
- 1:04:35SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I just make stupid noises.
- 1:04:43SPEAKER_02: It's like a it's like a cold Ford on a winter morning.
- 1:04:54SPEAKER_02: It's not even cold in my brain.
- 1:04:57SPEAKER_02: Uh what's the height of popularity?
- 1:05:00SPEAKER_02: Uh 80s.
- 1:05:02SPEAKER_02: 80s?
- 1:05:02SPEAKER_02: Okay.
- 1:05:02SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think so, yeah.
- 1:05:03SPEAKER_02: Is it uh do they play an instrument?
- 1:05:06SPEAKER_04: Um, yeah, guitar.
- 1:05:08SPEAKER_04: Um, I guess they play piano, but they're not known for that.
- 1:05:11SPEAKER_04: Playing an instrument?
- 1:05:13SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:05:14SPEAKER_04: Anything.
- 1:05:14SPEAKER_02: Or just singing.
- 1:05:15SPEAKER_04: They're not they're not.
- 1:05:17SPEAKER_04: I guess whenever you see this person performing, they are playing guitar.
- 1:05:20SPEAKER_02: They're playing guitar.
- 1:05:21SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:05:21SPEAKER_02: It's James Taylor.
- 1:05:22SPEAKER_04: No.
- 1:05:22unknown: No.
- 1:05:23SPEAKER_02: I saw him on PBS the other week.
- 1:05:25SPEAKER_02: Pretty great.
- 1:05:26SPEAKER_02: Um.
- 1:05:28SPEAKER_02: So he's playing guitar.
- 1:05:29SPEAKER_04: Well, usually electric.
- 1:05:31SPEAKER_02: Electric guitar.
- 1:05:32SPEAKER_02: Is he by himself?
- 1:05:33SPEAKER_02: Does he have a band?
- 1:05:34SPEAKER_04: He has a band.
- 1:05:35SPEAKER_02: Is it named after him?
- 1:05:36SPEAKER_04: No.
- 1:05:36SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:05:37SPEAKER_04: Well, I mean, he's a solo artist, so I guess.
- 1:05:40SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't know.
- 1:05:41SPEAKER_02: You know, it's like me first in the gimme gimme.
- 1:05:44SPEAKER_02: You know, kind of kind of thing.
- 1:05:46SPEAKER_04: Um 80s pop rock.
- 1:05:50SPEAKER_02: 80s pop rock.
- 1:05:52SPEAKER_02: Is it Billy Squire?
- 1:05:53SPEAKER_04: Nope.
- 1:05:55SPEAKER_02: I thought that'd be kind of cool.
- 1:05:59SPEAKER_04: Uh He was part of a songwriting team.
- 1:06:03SPEAKER_04: Uh him and another person.
- 1:06:05SPEAKER_04: And they wrote a lot of songs for other artists.
- 1:06:09SPEAKER_04: Especially in the 80s.
- 1:06:11SPEAKER_02: Is it uh Daryl Hall?
- 1:06:13SPEAKER_02: Nope.
- 1:06:13SPEAKER_02: John Oates?
- 1:06:14SPEAKER_02: Nope.
- 1:06:15SPEAKER_02: Is it Hall and Oates?
- 1:06:16SPEAKER_01: Nope.
- 1:06:19SPEAKER_04: Are you sure?
- 1:06:20unknown: Yeah.
- 1:06:21unknown: Okay.
- 1:06:22SPEAKER_04: If I say if I give you one hint, you're gonna get it.
- 1:06:24SPEAKER_04: Oh.
- 1:06:25SPEAKER_04: So you're you're avoiding that.
- 1:06:26SPEAKER_04: Well, no, I mean I can give it to you.
- 1:06:27SPEAKER_02: Well no, give me a second.
- 1:06:29SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:06:29SPEAKER_02: Uh is it Loan and Narvaro or Lohan or Navarro?
- 1:06:34SPEAKER_04: No, he doesn't have a partner.
- 1:06:35SPEAKER_02: Uh is it Kenny Loggins?
- 1:06:38SPEAKER_02: No.
- 1:06:38SPEAKER_02: Is it uh the other guy?
- 1:06:41SPEAKER_02: Messina?
- 1:06:41SPEAKER_02: Jim Messina?
- 1:06:42SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:06:43SPEAKER_09: Messina.
- 1:06:45SPEAKER_02: You won't you won't know.
- 1:06:47SPEAKER_02: I just thought of that scene out of the office where Jim and uh uh Stanley are in that car.
- 1:06:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:06:53SPEAKER_02: Oh we can play some logging.
- 1:07:02SPEAKER_02: Oh shoot.
- 1:07:04SPEAKER_04: Okay, so so the It's not Richard Marks.
- 1:07:06SPEAKER_04: Nope.
- 1:07:06SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:07:07SPEAKER_02: Songwriting partner, you Oh, is it it's it's Rick Springfield.
- 1:07:10SPEAKER_04: Nope.
- 1:07:11SPEAKER_04: No, no.
- 1:07:12SPEAKER_04: The songwriting partner you won't know.
- 1:07:14SPEAKER_04: You won't know the team.
- 1:07:14SPEAKER_04: Oh, okay.
- 1:07:17SPEAKER_04: You're not far off with Rick Springfield.
- 1:07:20SPEAKER_04: With Rick Springfield.
- 1:07:21SPEAKER_04: Or Richard Marks, actually.
- 1:07:25SPEAKER_01: So he's like them.
- 1:07:27SPEAKER_01: From the 80s-ish.
- 1:07:30SPEAKER_04: More a little more.
- 1:07:32SPEAKER_04: Well, from the 80s, a little more harder-edged, I think.
- 1:07:35SPEAKER_04: Brian Adams.
- 1:07:36SPEAKER_04: It is Brian Adams.
- 1:07:39SPEAKER_04: I was you notice how I said from the 80s a little more harder edged, because he's not now.
- 1:07:43SPEAKER_02: No, I was about to say he went really soft.
- 1:07:44SPEAKER_02: He went really soft, yeah.
- 1:07:46SPEAKER_02: I was gonna make a Viagra joke, but I'm not.
- 1:07:54SPEAKER_04: Sorry, Mom! This is the album that I picked.
- 1:07:59SPEAKER_04: Room service.
- 1:08:00SPEAKER_04: I don't think.
- 1:08:01SPEAKER_04: Never heard it.
- 1:08:03SPEAKER_02: No, because it was made in Germany.
- 1:08:08SPEAKER_04: Um to me, this is an under underrated album.
- 1:08:12SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:08:13SPEAKER_04: Um Brian Adams.
- 1:08:15SPEAKER_04: I have a love-hate relationship with Brian Adams.
- 1:08:17SPEAKER_04: Yes, you do.
- 1:08:19SPEAKER_04: Um Reckless was amazing.
- 1:08:22SPEAKER_04: Even cuts like a knife.
- 1:08:25SPEAKER_04: Uh Into the Fire, the one that came after Reckless.
- 1:08:28SPEAKER_04: You know, it's like it's like you say Def Leopard can't really follow up hysteria.
- 1:08:32SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:08:33SPEAKER_04: Um Brian Adams' Reckless was huge.
- 1:08:36SPEAKER_04: And he released Into the Fire.
- 1:08:38SPEAKER_04: Now, I get ridiculed sometimes for this.
- 1:08:42SPEAKER_04: But I like Into the Fire better than Reckless.
- 1:08:45SPEAKER_04: Oh I know.
- 1:08:46SPEAKER_04: That's heresy.
- 1:08:47SPEAKER_04: I know.
- 1:08:47SPEAKER_02: Um this was the Middle Ages, you'd be on a stake burning.
- 1:08:51SPEAKER_04: And then he released that album, uh Waking Up the Neighbors, which was essentially Def Leopard.
- 1:08:55SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:08:55SPEAKER_04: Because he worked with Mutt Lang.
- 1:08:57SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:08:57SPEAKER_04: Which was a great album.
- 1:08:58SPEAKER_04: I'm not saying it wasn't.
- 1:09:00SPEAKER_04: Uh and then he kind of just went.
- 1:09:03SPEAKER_02: Well, he did that song for uh the Robin Hood movie.
- 1:09:05SPEAKER_04: Which was on that same album.
- 1:09:07SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:09:07SPEAKER_02: So and that that was his downfall.
- 1:09:09SPEAKER_02: Well Which was the downfall for everybody in that movie.
- 1:09:14SPEAKER_02: I mean, Kevin Costner's Robin Hood, he didn't even he didn't even attempt an English accent.
- 1:09:19SPEAKER_02: No, he didn't.
- 1:09:19SPEAKER_02: It was terrible.
- 1:09:20SPEAKER_02: I actually like that movie, but I I watched I remember watching it at a drive-in theater in California.
- 1:09:27SPEAKER_04: Really?
- 1:09:27SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:09:28SPEAKER_02: Because what was the first movie?
- 1:09:31SPEAKER_02: Because it was a double feature.
- 1:09:32SPEAKER_02: And that was the second one.
- 1:09:33SPEAKER_02: There was one before it I can't remember.
- 1:09:35SPEAKER_02: But I remember watching it going, what am I watching?
- 1:09:41SPEAKER_02: I mean this is Robin Hood.
- 1:09:44SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:09:45SPEAKER_02: You know, it's not even it's not even, you know, the cart the Disney cartoon one.
- 1:09:50SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:09:51SPEAKER_02: You know, where where Robin Hood is a fox.
- 1:09:53SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:09:54SPEAKER_02: You know, and he's got Baloo, you know, the bear and everything like that.
- 1:09:57SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:09:57SPEAKER_02: That was even more entertaining than that.
- 1:09:59SPEAKER_02: That was more believable.
- 1:10:01SPEAKER_02: Did you ever see the Russell Crowe version of Robin Hood?
- 1:10:03SPEAKER_04: I did, and it was not very good.
- 1:10:05SPEAKER_04: I did not.
- 1:10:06SPEAKER_04: I have it.
- 1:10:06SPEAKER_04: I have it on DVD.
- 1:10:07SPEAKER_04: I've not taken it out of the rapper yet.
- 1:10:09SPEAKER_04: Yeah, don't bother.
- 1:10:10SPEAKER_04: It was gifted to me.
- 1:10:13SPEAKER_02: And that's why they gifted.
- 1:10:13SPEAKER_02: They were like, I got this piece of crap.
- 1:10:15SPEAKER_02: I'm just gonna give it, I'm gonna re-gift that to somebody else.
- 1:10:17SPEAKER_02: Hey, you won't watch it.
- 1:10:20SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it I mean it was it was okay.
- 1:10:23SPEAKER_02: At least at least Russell Crowe can speak in an English accent.
- 1:10:26SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:10:27SPEAKER_02: But I uh that was and then wasn't Christian Slater in the in the Robin Hood one?
- 1:10:32SPEAKER_04: He was.
- 1:10:32SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:10:34SPEAKER_04: And they were brothers.
- 1:10:38SPEAKER_02: I enjoyed The Postman better.
- 1:10:41SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 1:10:42SPEAKER_02: Actually, you know what?
- 1:10:43SPEAKER_02: I enjoyed The Postman too.
- 1:10:44SPEAKER_02: Dude, we watched it at your house.
- 1:10:45SPEAKER_02: Remember that?
- 1:10:46SPEAKER_02: We watched it, we were all like, this is a great movie.
- 1:10:48SPEAKER_02: I loved that movie.
- 1:10:49SPEAKER_02: I liked even I even liked Waterworld.
- 1:10:50SPEAKER_02: I liked Waterworld too.
- 1:10:52SPEAKER_02: But I could not wrap my head around Robin Hood.
- 1:10:55SPEAKER_02: See, I liked Robin Hood.
- 1:10:56SPEAKER_02: I I didn't.
- 1:10:57SPEAKER_02: I just I just you know I just couldn't take him seriously because it I mean you're Well, yeah, you know, you have to kind of turn your brain off a little bit.
- 1:11:03SPEAKER_02: You do, you really do.
- 1:11:04SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:11:04SPEAKER_02: You know, it's like the kid from Pumped Up the Volume and Kevin Costner.
- 1:11:09SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:11:09SPEAKER_02: They're in a movie and they're they're in England, but they don't speak in English accents at all, don't even attempt it.
- 1:11:15SPEAKER_02: Which actually, for their credit, is actually better.
- 1:11:18SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:11:19SPEAKER_02: Because if they had attempted English accents, it would probably really, really sucked.
- 1:11:23SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:11:23SPEAKER_02: Just saying.
- 1:11:24SPEAKER_02: But this has nothing to do with Brian Adams.
- 1:11:27SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:11:27SPEAKER_04: Just saying.
- 1:11:28SPEAKER_04: So we're gonna get back to this.
- 1:11:29SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 1:11:29SPEAKER_04: Um I think Dutch Tangent is over.
- 1:11:32SPEAKER_04: I'm trying to think of when this uh came out.
- 1:11:36SPEAKER_04: 2004.
- 1:11:37SPEAKER_04: Oh.
- 1:11:38SPEAKER_04: Um, so I can't I'm I know he did an unplugged album in the mi in the nineties, I think.
- 1:11:45SPEAKER_04: And uh I'm trying to think of what else he did in the nineties.
- 1:11:49SPEAKER_04: Not much.
- 1:11:51SPEAKER_04: Well No, I think on a day like today was was that released in the nineties?
- 1:11:58SPEAKER_04: Yeah, 98 on a day like today, which has some good songs on it, but uh again, it's just not um not great.
- 1:12:05SPEAKER_04: But this one came out in 2004, and I think this is an underrated album.
- 1:12:09SPEAKER_04: Okay.
- 1:12:10SPEAKER_04: Uh and I'll tell I'll show I'll play you some reasons why.
- 1:12:13SPEAKER_04: Now he's always been known for the catchy chorus, right?
- 1:12:20SPEAKER_04: Right?
- 1:12:20SPEAKER_04: The pop chorus.
- 1:12:21SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:12:26SPEAKER_07: I got a green line.
- 1:12:30SPEAKER_07: I'm not afraid of nothing good.
- 1:13:21SPEAKER_04: Okay, so that song's called open road.
- 1:13:23SPEAKER_04: Uh very catchy, very clear.
- 1:13:25SPEAKER_04: Yeah, kind of a rockin' tune.
- 1:13:27SPEAKER_04: Uh this is called This Side of Paradise.
- 1:13:34SPEAKER_04: Still, I mean a far cry from Reckless.
- 1:13:36SPEAKER_04: Oh yeah.
- 1:13:37SPEAKER_04: Uh into the fire.
- 1:13:40SPEAKER_07: Nine years old.
- 1:13:43SPEAKER_07: Down out the window, come the highway poles.
- 1:13:47SPEAKER_07: Then I get the faggot.
- 1:13:49SPEAKER_07: It don't seem real.
- 1:13:51SPEAKER_07: I'm fine through the internet.
- 1:14:22SPEAKER_02: I mean, it's pop music.
- 1:14:24SPEAKER_02: I mean it's it's I mean, no offense, but what side of paradise is this song from?
- 1:14:28SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:14:28SPEAKER_04: South Central.
- 1:14:29SPEAKER_04: Well, here's the thing.
- 1:14:30SPEAKER_04: You know, Brian Adams has never really been known for his lyric writing.
- 1:14:35SPEAKER_04: I mean it's it's it's kind of milk toast.
- 1:14:38SPEAKER_04: It is a bit of milk toast, but this one is this is the title cut.
- 1:14:42SPEAKER_04: This is called Room Service.
- 1:14:45SPEAKER_04: This is about being on the road.
- 1:14:54SPEAKER_07: Got a down line, get a down line.
- 1:15:17SPEAKER_04: Right, you're bouncing your head.
- 1:15:18SPEAKER_02: No, I like those.
- 1:15:19SPEAKER_02: This is good.
- 1:15:25SPEAKER_07: I think I see it's that's don't be.
- 1:15:32SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I like those.
- 1:15:32SPEAKER_04: I mean, and there's a couple other songs, and there's a couple ballads.
- 1:15:35SPEAKER_04: Obviously, he's he's a Brian Adams.
- 1:15:38SPEAKER_04: He's known for the ballads.
- 1:15:39SPEAKER_04: Um but I will say this.
- 1:15:43SPEAKER_04: Uh I'm not sure how old Brian Adams is.
- 1:15:46SPEAKER_04: I wanna 100 years old.
- 1:15:48SPEAKER_04: I wanna see what what what his wiki says.
- 1:15:50SPEAKER_02: He's gotta be in the 70s.
- 1:15:51SPEAKER_04: You think oh, you think so?
- 1:15:52SPEAKER_04: I don't think he's in his 70s.
- 1:15:54SPEAKER_04: So the clue I was gonna give you, by the way, is that he was Canadian.
- 1:15:56SPEAKER_04: And I thought you would get that.
- 1:15:58SPEAKER_02: Well, he has a credit to his country.
- 1:15:59SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:16:00SPEAKER_02: You know.
- 1:16:00SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:16:00SPEAKER_02: He's up there with Rush and Triumph.
- 1:16:02SPEAKER_02: He is?
- 1:16:03SPEAKER_02: He really is.
- 1:16:03SPEAKER_02: Are you joking?
- 1:16:04SPEAKER_02: Are you serious?
- 1:16:04SPEAKER_02: No, I'm not actually serious.
- 1:16:05SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no.
- 1:16:05SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:16:06SPEAKER_02: He's 63.
- 1:16:07SPEAKER_02: He's only 63.
- 1:16:08SPEAKER_04: He's only 63.
- 1:16:09SPEAKER_02: Wow.
- 1:16:09SPEAKER_04: I thought he was way older.
- 1:16:11SPEAKER_04: Uh he's also a uh huge sought-after photographer.
- 1:16:14SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, his he he's I mean, that's like his new thing.
- 1:16:17SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I mean he's you know, he may be better at that than you're right.
- 1:16:21SPEAKER_04: Absolutely.
- 1:16:22SPEAKER_04: No, I mean I've seen some of his pictures, and he's he's he's quite, really good.
- 1:16:26SPEAKER_04: He's very talented.
- 1:16:27SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 1:16:27SPEAKER_04: Um, but I I will say he put out an album called Bare Bones not too long ago, which was just him and an acoustic guitar.
- 1:16:37SPEAKER_04: And I know that he came to the University of Maine at Orno.
- 1:16:41SPEAKER_04: He did?
- 1:16:41SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I believe so.
- 1:16:42SPEAKER_04: And he put and he put on a concert.
- 1:16:44SPEAKER_04: Bare Bones.
- 1:16:45SPEAKER_04: I have a friend, Kevin, who went to see it.
- 1:16:47SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:16:47SPEAKER_04: I'm pretty sure it was Kevin that told me this.
- 1:16:50SPEAKER_04: And he sounds exactly the same.
- 1:16:52SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's cool.
- 1:16:53SPEAKER_04: Sings all the songs in the same key.
- 1:16:55SPEAKER_04: Uh sounds exactly like he sings on the records.
- 1:16:59SPEAKER_02: Uh it's and it's quite amazing how he's taken care of his voice and taking care of himself and and uh I mean he's never been, I mean, it's never like, you know, Brian Adams threw this rager and threw all the furniture out the hotel when I mean he's never been that guy.
- 1:17:16SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:17:17SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 1:17:17SPEAKER_02: As far as I know.
- 1:17:18SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:17:18SPEAKER_02: You know, um, I think because I think they would kick him out of Canada if he did.
- 1:17:22SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:17:22SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
- 1:17:23SPEAKER_02: They're all very polite.
- 1:17:25SPEAKER_02: It's true.
- 1:17:26SPEAKER_02: I mean, Rush never did that.
- 1:17:28SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 1:17:28SPEAKER_02: You know, they were very, very, you know.
- 1:17:30SPEAKER_02: That's not our stuff.
- 1:17:31SPEAKER_02: Very very cosmopolitan.
- 1:17:32SPEAKER_02: Oh, hold on.
- 1:17:33SPEAKER_02: Sorry, eh?
- 1:17:33SPEAKER_02: It's not our stuff.
- 1:17:34SPEAKER_02: Sorry.
- 1:17:37SPEAKER_04: Um, so yeah, uh I like this album.
- 1:17:41SPEAKER_04: Um Room Service.
- 1:17:43SPEAKER_04: And uh I like the album before it, on a day like today, also had some great songs on it.
- 1:17:47SPEAKER_04: The stuff that he's put out recently, um I like Ryan Adams.
- 1:17:52SPEAKER_04: Uh but he put out an album with uh Jeff Lynn um producing, and it sounded like PLO.
- 1:17:59SPEAKER_02: Well, it sounded like Jeff Lynn produced it.
- 1:18:02SPEAKER_02: I'm sure.
- 1:18:02SPEAKER_02: Oh, for sure.
- 1:18:03SPEAKER_02: I don't even have to listen to it.
- 1:18:04SPEAKER_02: I I can I can hear it in my head.
- 1:18:05SPEAKER_04: Oh, it's it's and it's so it's he has such a um well, here.
- 1:18:13SPEAKER_04: Wait, wait.
- 1:18:15SPEAKER_04: If I'm gonna go down Wait, right here.
- 1:18:19SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 1:18:20SPEAKER_04: Wait till you hear the drum sound.
- 1:18:24SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 1:18:25SPEAKER_04: It's Wilberries.
- 1:18:26SPEAKER_04: It's it is, it's the Wilberries.
- 1:18:27SPEAKER_07: Tom Petty or Take Matray.
- 1:18:30SPEAKER_07: I'll take a naplane.
- 1:18:32SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:18:33SPEAKER_04: And it and the album He's got a signature producing sound.
- 1:18:35SPEAKER_04: He does.
- 1:18:36SPEAKER_04: But you know the album this came off of from 2015, Get Up, is not that good.
- 1:18:41SPEAKER_04: Really?
- 1:18:42SPEAKER_04: I I don't care for it very much.
- 1:18:44SPEAKER_04: That's too bad.
- 1:18:45SPEAKER_04: Um, I mean, it's okay, it's not it's not awful.
- 1:18:49SPEAKER_04: I've heard a lot worse, but it's not my favorite.
- 1:18:52SPEAKER_04: I'm trying to think of uh because I think I have his latest album too, and I didn't even put it in my iTunes.
- 1:18:59SPEAKER_04: Oh wow.
- 1:19:00SPEAKER_04: Um so I don't know.
- 1:19:03SPEAKER_04: 18 Till I Die was a pretty good album that came out in '96.
- 1:19:06SPEAKER_02: I don't remember that one.
- 1:19:08SPEAKER_04: Uh yeah, you do.
- 1:19:10SPEAKER_04: Do I?
- 1:19:10SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 1:19:11SPEAKER_04: This is a great line.
- 1:19:14SPEAKER_04: The only thing that looks good on me is you.
- 1:19:18SPEAKER_02: That's kind of personal.
- 1:19:19SPEAKER_02: I know.
- 1:19:20SPEAKER_02: Oh.
- 1:19:21SPEAKER_02: Oh, that's the name of the song.
- 1:19:23SPEAKER_02: How about this one?
- 1:19:25SPEAKER_02: Steve Vai on this?
- 1:19:28SPEAKER_04: Just listen, this is how how this is a great album, but lyrically.
- 1:19:42SPEAKER_07: Let me be a bed, bitter, when you climb it.
- 1:19:47SPEAKER_04: Hold on, it gets better.
- 1:19:49SPEAKER_07: Better or white.
- 1:19:50SPEAKER_07: I wanna be the feet when you sleep.
- 1:19:53SPEAKER_07: Let me be the speed because that's be the key.
- 1:19:56SPEAKER_07: That's a two.
- 1:20:10SPEAKER_07: When you make it.
- 1:20:13SPEAKER_07: Your ideal When you take it.
- 1:20:22SPEAKER_07: When you make it, be enough to be on it.
- 1:20:32SPEAKER_07: Your underwear.
- 1:20:35SPEAKER_02: What the frick?
- 1:20:36SPEAKER_07: I wanna be your underwear.
- 1:20:38SPEAKER_04: Shame on you, Brian Adams.
- 1:20:40SPEAKER_04: Now there's some good songs on this album, but uh, yeah.
- 1:20:45SPEAKER_04: Uh it's terrible.
- 1:20:46SPEAKER_04: This is the same album that has this song on it.
- 1:20:50SPEAKER_04: Oh.
- 1:20:51SPEAKER_04: Have you ever really loved a woman?
- 1:20:52SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you couldn't get away from this song when it came out.
- 1:20:54SPEAKER_04: I know, I know.
- 1:20:55SPEAKER_04: It was all over the place.
- 1:20:56SPEAKER_02: Everywhere, dude.
- 1:20:56SPEAKER_04: And it's a good song.
- 1:20:57SPEAKER_04: It is a good song, yeah.
- 1:20:59SPEAKER_09: Love a one.
- 1:21:00SPEAKER_04: And uh, you know, I think that's uh I don't know.
- 1:21:02SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 1:21:03SPEAKER_04: Brian Adams has a like I said, I have a love-hate relationship with Brian Adams.
- 1:21:08SPEAKER_04: I I love his Yeah, I can see that.
- 1:21:09SPEAKER_04: You know, I I love what he has accomplished.
- 1:21:13SPEAKER_04: Um and I think most of what he's putting out now, he he doesn't need to.
- 1:21:19SPEAKER_04: That's true.
- 1:21:19SPEAKER_04: He's just but he's an artist and he's just trying to keep going, and I I I admire that.
- 1:21:24SPEAKER_02: Oh, absolutely.
- 1:21:25SPEAKER_04: I mean he's just you know, he's uh And again, the fact that you you can't follow up reckless, you know, although he realized that he was just like, Well, I'm never gonna do any better than this, I'll just put out some crap.
- 1:21:36SPEAKER_04: Right.
- 1:21:36SPEAKER_02: You know?
- 1:21:37SPEAKER_02: Well, I don't think he thinks it's crap.
- 1:21:38SPEAKER_04: I mean, obviously he loves it, you know.
- 1:21:40SPEAKER_02: That's just me being, you know.
- 1:21:42SPEAKER_02: I know.
- 1:21:45SPEAKER_04: I mean for Dougno speak good.
- 1:21:50SPEAKER_04: So that's that's the album of the week.
- 1:21:52SPEAKER_04: Uh the Wall of Tunes album of the week.
- 1:21:54SPEAKER_04: Room service.
- 1:21:55SPEAKER_04: Room service Brian Adams.
- 1:21:57SPEAKER_04: Hopefully this all recorded.
- 1:22:02SPEAKER_04: Hopefully this all recorded.
- 1:22:03SPEAKER_04: Uh this is episode 167.
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