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- 0:26Speaker 1: That voice. Only on Arrow.net. A-R-R-O-E dot net. Enjoy your exploration. Hi, Arrow. Hi, Anne.
- 0:36Speaker 1: How are you?
- 0:38Speaker 2: I'm great. How are you?
- 0:39Speaker 1: Very excited to share a conversation with you because you're
- 0:42Speaker 1: touching on a lot of things that I'll bet your
- 0:45Speaker 1: readers are going to put very tightly inside their heart
- 0:48Speaker 1: because you really, you really do bring up a lot
- 0:53Speaker 1: of memories, not for my personal life today, but for
- 0:55Speaker 1: my mother as well. And I just, I can't thank
- 0:58Speaker 1: you enough for doing something like this.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Arrow, that is so sweet. Thank you.
- 1:05Speaker 1: For you to be so open and transparent though, that
- 1:09Speaker 1: stuff doesn't just fall out of you. You had to have,
- 1:11Speaker 1: had to have had conversations with yourself.
- 1:15Speaker 2: Uh, yeah, it was a really interesting, um, process. And, um,
- 1:21Speaker 2: this couch, I'm calling it the power of the couch, um,
- 1:26Speaker 2: you know, to like really get still with yourself. It's
- 1:29Speaker 2: amazing what comes to you. And, um, It's one of
- 1:32Speaker 2: the proponents, you know, of my book is, you know,
- 1:35Speaker 2: take a risk and be quiet, you know, and see
- 1:38Speaker 2: what comes. But you're right. It's like it is. It's
- 1:42Speaker 2: you being with you. It's like you are your best company.
- 1:47Speaker 2: And they were like conversations. And the crazy thing was
- 1:52Speaker 2: is that the book is not chronological. It's like whatever
- 1:57Speaker 2: floated in from the pouch. Nice. Yeah. And I think
- 2:02Speaker 2: that makes it a very interesting read because you don't
- 2:07Speaker 2: know what's going to happen next. And also the crazy
- 2:12Speaker 2: thing during the whole writing process, which took 10 years,
- 2:16Speaker 2: by the way, I had a friend come to me
- 2:19Speaker 2: and she said, you know, there is an ancient style
- 2:23Speaker 2: of writing in Japan. Called Nikki Bungaku. And it's exactly
- 2:28Speaker 2: what I was doing. It was like it's sort of
- 2:31Speaker 2: like a journal, but there's no chronological proponent to it. Nice. Nice.
- 2:38Speaker 2: And that was that was pretty fun to find out. So.
- 2:41Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a daily writer. I've been a journal writer
- 2:44Speaker 1: since July of 1994. Maybe that is the reason why
- 2:48Speaker 1: I can really relate with this. Because how many times, though, Anne,
- 2:51Speaker 1: have you walked into somebody's life and said, you need
- 2:53Speaker 1: to write? Oh, yeah, I need to write. I need
- 2:55Speaker 1: to write. And then they don't do it. And it's
- 2:57Speaker 1: like you have no idea what kind of peace you're
- 3:00Speaker 1: going to experience when you do sit on that couch
- 3:03Speaker 1: and you just let the silence just become a part
- 3:07Speaker 1: of your moment.
- 3:08Speaker 2: Yes. So well said. Very well said. And I can
- 3:11Speaker 2: think of so many people I wish would write a book. Yeah.
- 3:16Speaker 2: But it's not easy. Holy cow. It is not easy.
- 3:20Speaker 2: I mean, I don't mean to put a damper on things, but,
- 3:23Speaker 2: you know, you start typing and you think you're going
- 3:26Speaker 2: left and you end up way over on the right side.
- 3:29Speaker 2: You know, it's like. it's a crazy process. Um, so
- 3:32Speaker 2: I'm really impressed that you're a journalist.
- 3:35Speaker 1: Oh my God. I complain to my wife all the
- 3:38Speaker 1: time that they don't put enough ink in pens anymore.
- 3:41Speaker 1: And she says, it's the same pen you've been using
- 3:43Speaker 1: for 30 years. I said, they don't use the same
- 3:45Speaker 1: kind of ink.
- 3:46Speaker 2: There's no way. Oh God. Yeah. My dad was a writer. He,
- 3:53Speaker 2: he wrote for time magazine and, um, He had these pencils.
- 3:59Speaker 2: Remember when we were kids, the pencils? Yes. Like they
- 4:02Speaker 2: smelled different. Yes. And he used to chew on his pencils.
- 4:05Speaker 2: They were real wood. That's me. And he sharpened them
- 4:07Speaker 2: with a knife. Yeah, I love those old pencils.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Yeah. And the only, you know, in fact, I got
- 4:14Speaker 1: to be open and honest with you, Ann. And that is,
- 4:16Speaker 1: is that my, my, I wrote a book while I
- 4:18Speaker 1: was in the 11th grade because that's how the teachers
- 4:20Speaker 1: convinced me to stay in high school. And so, and
- 4:23Speaker 1: that was all written in pencil. And to this day,
- 4:26Speaker 1: I was in the 11th grade in 1978. To this day,
- 4:30Speaker 1: I still have that original manuscript in pencil.
- 4:34Speaker 2: Oh, I love that. Oh, my gosh. And did you
- 4:39Speaker 2: ever do anything with it? 32 years.
- 4:41Speaker 1: 32 years it took to publish it.
- 4:44Speaker 2: Wow. Wow. What's the name of it?
- 4:47Speaker 1: It's called Halloween 78, the Blizzard White Canvas. And you
- 4:50Speaker 1: know what's so funny is that it's written about this
- 4:53Speaker 1: band that dreamed of playing at this place called the
- 4:56Speaker 1: Shrine Auditorium in Billings, Montana. And just a few months ago,
- 4:59Speaker 1: I was talking to this dude that was in this band.
- 5:01Speaker 1: He says, yeah, we were cruising through Billings. We played
- 5:04Speaker 1: at the Shrine Auditorium. My heart stopped in that moment.
- 5:08Speaker 1: But see, but you know, Ann, this is the way
- 5:10Speaker 1: we are as writers. We speak a street that other
- 5:13Speaker 1: people have either been on or they want to become
- 5:15Speaker 1: a part of. That's who we are as writers.
- 5:18Speaker 2: Yes, that's so true. I have a chapter in my
- 5:22Speaker 2: book that's just called Metaphor. You know, it's like I
- 5:26Speaker 2: live for metaphor. Like, it's just... It's a wonderful way
- 5:30Speaker 2: to look at the world, you know, and even raise kids. Yeah.
- 5:34Speaker 2: You know, what does that look like to you? Describe it,
- 5:37Speaker 2: you know, without normal descriptions and looking at nature a
- 5:42Speaker 2: different way. It's, you know, the written word is fabulous.
- 5:46Speaker 2: I think it's underrated.
- 5:48Speaker 1: Please don't move. There's more with Ann Martin Writings coming
- 5:51Speaker 1: up next. The name of the book, a woven woman.
- 5:56Speaker 1: We are back with the author and Martin writings. Do
- 6:00Speaker 1: you find yourself in a position that I do in
- 6:02Speaker 1: the way that, and this is one of those books,
- 6:05Speaker 1: a woven, a woven woman is that dear future reader.
- 6:09Speaker 1: You don't know who's going to pick it up in
- 6:10Speaker 1: 10 years or 20 years, but you're writing a letter
- 6:12Speaker 1: to them. Dear future reader, a woven woman. Here is
- 6:16Speaker 1: my story. Please learn from it.
- 6:19Speaker 2: Wow. That's exactly right. And, you know, I just learned
- 6:22Speaker 2: the new term evergreen. I think my book is evergreen
- 6:27Speaker 2: because we are producing empty nesters every year. These women
- 6:32Speaker 2: who gave their lives to motherhood, so many of them
- 6:37Speaker 2: like and and it's a beautiful thing and we need
- 6:40Speaker 2: more of it. And it comes to an end every year.
- 6:44Speaker 2: Your kids. Is going to go. So I hope it
- 6:49Speaker 2: goes off into the sunset. I hope it does. I
- 6:52Speaker 2: hope so many people find it. And, you know, it's
- 6:55Speaker 2: more than just about motherhood. It's about our whole transformation. Yes. Right? Right. Yes. Wow.
- 7:04Speaker 1: And you really hit something here that really touched my
- 7:06Speaker 1: heart because my mother did not write anything down. And
- 7:10Speaker 1: I'll see her in heaven and talk to her about
- 7:12Speaker 1: it like a father. And the thing is, is that
- 7:15Speaker 1: you talked about mothers who found a purpose after their children.
- 7:20Speaker 1: My mom did not. She stayed in that mode the
- 7:23Speaker 1: entire time. She didn't go out and find a purpose.
- 7:25Speaker 1: And so I really, really study your book. And vicariously,
- 7:29Speaker 1: I'm living through your word.
- 7:31Speaker 2: Well, that means so much to me because, you know,
- 7:35Speaker 2: it's not just about the moms. You know, it's not
- 7:39Speaker 2: just about people who don't have kids. It's about all
- 7:44Speaker 2: people and the way they transform and how they can
- 7:49Speaker 2: take an active part in it. You can take an
- 7:53Speaker 2: active part in your transformation. And I just found that
- 7:56Speaker 2: writing was my... you know, my medium. So, uh, but it's, it,
- 8:02Speaker 2: it is, um, I think your mom, you know, that's
- 8:05Speaker 2: a whole generational thing where that's what you did. You
- 8:09Speaker 2: found your husband, you had kids and that was it,
- 8:12Speaker 2: you know? And, um, I, I think we need to
- 8:14Speaker 2: dream big. Wow. We need to dream big.
- 8:18Speaker 1: You got to make your way back to this show.
- 8:20Speaker 1: Anytime in the future, 10 minutes with you is not enough.
- 8:23Speaker 1: And I love where your heart is. I love where
- 8:25Speaker 1: you're growing beyond.
- 8:27Speaker 2: Oh, Harold, I wish you lived closer. I'm so glad
- 8:34Speaker 2: that you are doing what you do because you really
- 8:38Speaker 2: have a wonderful way of picking out great things. I
- 8:42Speaker 2: haven't really had an interview like this yet.
- 8:45Speaker 1: Well, when you come back, we'll do it again. And
- 8:48Speaker 1: I promise you, we'll dive even deeper. Okay, I'd love it.
- 8:51Speaker 2: I'd love it.
- 8:53Speaker 1: Well, you be brilliant today, okay?
- 8:56Speaker 2: You too, Arrow. Thank you so much.
- 8:58Speaker 1: Thank you.