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UAP Disclosure · Walk Talk: Faith in Motion

• Randy: It has begun the first batch of unclassified files have been released on UAPs from the department of war. We're going to talk about that today and a whole lot more on the walk talk. Pj: Alright, man. Randy: Let's get into this. Pj: Yes, let's talk about it brother. Randy: Let's talk about it. All right. So have you had a chance to look at any of these files that were released by the Pentagon? Pj: So, honestly, was behind on this one. know what I mean? ⁓ Apparently, happened a couple days ago and people have been talking lot about it and I missed it. So I have been playing a little bit of catch up. I have seen a couple of things here and there. And ⁓ yeah, man, it's wild. guess I was really looking forward to it. And mean, for like you and I, I feel like we've been waiting our whole lifetime. But we've always been... Randy: Mm-hmm. Right. Right. Pj: Interested and intrigued by UFOs and things of that nature and and so yeah, man. It's crazy. I honestly as ⁓ I kind of told you before though, it was very anti-climactic For from what I was expecting, you know Randy: Yeah, yeah. Well, from my understanding, this batch that was released a few days ago, I don't think it's even been a week at this point, is the first of a lot to come. And I think what I heard was every four to six weeks, about once a month, the expectation is a new batch of files is going to be released. And for anyone who hasn't been on the government website to see them, there are Pj: Right. Mm-hmm. Randy: just steal images, are PDF files, there are videos, all sorts of documents. Pj: Yeah, it's wild. And I guess that's another thing for me being interested for as long as I have. I've watched a lot of things where some of these same videos, it seems like were leaked. So I'd seen them already. It's stuff that I've been tracking for a minute. Randy: Right. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. So so yeah, I noticed that as well. Some of those videos that were released and now we know that they are actually official. They've been they've been leaked previously. And now we know that with confirmation that these were not ⁓ fakes, were not, you know, forgery, CGI, AI, none of that. ⁓ Like some of the moon files, for example, right. There was literally Apollo missions. Pj: All right, yeah. Randy: where I know I've seen images over the years of, you know, the Apollo astronauts on the moon and weird lights and what looks like laser beams ⁓ on the moon. And, you know, you think, hey, that could have been easily something that's faked. Well, not when it's being released by the government. And we see that, actually the pictures look just like what you might have seen leaked years ago. Pj: Right. Yeah. I mean, a lot of that is from former whistleblowers who worked in government positions and stuff like that. To be honest with you, speaking of, I think it was Apollo 17. That was the only one that I found. I was like, if there's any fake ones, this might be it because I don't know if we actually went to the moon, but that's a whole nother thing. But yeah, I was like... Randy: ⁓ That was the most surprising thing of it all was that it shows that we were actually on the moon. They're like, hey, these were actually moon images. Yeah, so some of the things that I saw, and then we'll get into why we're talking about this. So I saw that ⁓ these UAP and I know we both hate the term UAP. We're old school, UFOs, unidentified flying objects, right? Pj: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, always cool. UFOs. Randy: It's gotten to the point where UFO don't even really stand for that anymore. UFO just pretty much just stands for, you know, alien spaceships pretty much at this point. anyway, UAP, which now stands for unidentified anomalous phenomenon. And I think they changed that partially because sometimes it's in the air. Sometimes it's underwater. Sometimes it's like transmedium. It's going through objects like mountains and things like that. Pj: Yep. Yep. Randy: So in these files, I saw a lot of orbs that some of them split into multiple orbs and then come back into single orbs. There was a memo that referenced some humanoids, some smaller three and a half to four foot beings that seemed humanoid. Pj: That's what I wanted to see. I wanted to like bring them out. If y'all got them, just bring them out. Randy: Yes. Yes. Just bring them out. ⁓ They talked about, you know, unusual metals. ⁓ Let's see what else I'm trying to think. What else that was there? There was the definitely the eight pointed star. Did you see that one? Pj: Yeah, that so that to me was like the coolest one I guess and maybe it was the most different than anything else that I had seen You know what mean? Like I've seen some of different splitting or if there's a lot of a lot of videos out there mean realistically there was a lot of live footage Especially once everybody had a camera on their phone like you know you were if you were looking you could see all kinds of cool stuff But that star one man. I was just like whoa This is it that was different than anything that I could remember seeing and I thought that that was super cool Randy: Yeah, yeah. So there was this the star one we already mentioned the the the lights and the laser beam looking thing that was on the moon. Then there was recordings of the astronauts actually talking about what they were seeing as well as memos where it was transcribed what they saw. ⁓ There was this one conversation where they were and I forget what Apollo mission it was. I think it might have been Apollo 11. They were talking about the cylinder. shaped object that they couldn't quite agree on what it looked like because when they focused the lens a certain way it looked like this L shaped ⁓ object but when they focused it another way it looked like a transparent cylinder ⁓ and even they couldn't even seem to agree on that. ⁓ Some of them said no it's not a cylinder it's like two circles that aren't even connected and the other astronauts said no it's it's cylinder so definitely some weird stuff that the astronauts were seeing and apparently every mission to the moon has seen something. ⁓ So which you know that's that's crazy crazy to think about. Pj: Yeah, man, it's wild. man, you know, I what I've been also waiting to see, I guess, is is the people, know, who have been, you know, out there for a long time and who've had these experiences and have been publicly ridiculed and denied, you know, get some kind of vindication for, you know, being called crazy for so long, you know. Randy: Right, right. Yeah, so the other thing that came out during the same time as these files were being released was apparently there are some pastors who are claiming that there was some sort of intelligence briefing for some prominent pastors. Did you hear anything about this? Pj: I heard Driscoll speak on it and he was kind of, he just kind of, you know, nonchalantly was like, you know, I've heard this and he was like something about a VRBO and some pastors and he's like, you know, sounds legit. And I was like, but that's all I'd heard about. Randy: Yeah, yeah, I saw this pastor Perry Stone said that ⁓ he had a friend who attended a meeting with the officials and ⁓ he didn't really say much more than that. Another pastor named Larry Raglan mentioned that a congressman was telling pastors something about aliens being the ⁓ originators of Christianity, but then he later Pj: Wow. Randy: like recanted on that claim and said he apologized, but that he spoke out of turn or something to that effect. So there's a lot of things going on and it's kind of weird that they would even bring in pastors. Pj: Right. And see, I guess from my perspective, like if you're going to bring in pastors to basically kind of help you get people prepared, I would think that you would you would grab the biggest pastors with the biggest churches. You know what mean? All the mega church pastors and kind of get them beings they have ⁓ such a such a big following. So it kind of almost makes me feel like I don't know, man, it's I mean. Randy: Right, right. Pj: I'm torn. definitely I think that there is something to disclose but I think that they're just kind of toying around with it right now I don't think that this is this is it I was this almost kind of feels like misdirection to me, you know Maybe they didn't grab these these mega church pastors because they're like man. can't influence these guys They're a little bit smarter than your your average I don't know you but I mean if you're looking for the the biggest influence and why not? Why not include all the all the big names that everybody knows, you know Randy: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Right, right. Yeah, and it's crazy to think about, and I've heard in that regard to, you know, kind of this pastor briefing, I've heard everything ⁓ from what this ⁓ Larry Raglin was saying, that, you know, they're Christians, preparing pastors to then prepare their congregations ⁓ for disclosure. That's going to be something to the effect of, you know, aliens invented religion and invented Christianity. all the way to, you know, aliens are, you know, real and you know, what does that mean for, you know, our faith as Christians and what the Bible says to aliens or demons and like everywhere in between, right? Like I've heard pastors saying lots of different things and I've heard people speculating as well as giving their opinion. You know, I've heard, you know, some people saying, well, look, you know, I believe that aliens, you know, life out. Pj: Yeah. Randy: there in the cosmos is an inevitability just because of the size of the universe. if there are, if there are aliens, God made them, right? Yeah. And I've heard people say that's not going to shake my faith because it's just that simple. God made them. Pj: Alright, 100%. Yeah. Right, Well, I mean, you know, the thing is, the Bible itself tells you that God created other beings, right? I mean, the Bible itself focuses on us, on humanity as a focal point. But I mean, it does say, you know, that He created angels. You know what mean? created... I mean, there's different beings, life beings that He's created. I mean, again, yeah, doesn't really do anything as far as my faith is concerned because absolutely, if it's there, it's not there outside of his control or his design. Randy: Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And you know, we've talked about this before, you know where I stand. I mean, I really do believe there's going to be more and more people out there trying to tie, you know, whatever this is to, you know, try to shake people's faith in God. And, you know, I'm 100 % confident in, you know, in falling on the side of these are demonic beings, whether they are evil spirits, Pj: Right. Randy: unclean spirits, flat out demons or some something in that realm. I am totally convinced that this is the work of the enemy. And it is going to be used to deceive a lot of Christians. And I think we just need to be diligent and, and Christians need to stay in prayer, regardless of what they hear, and, you know, stand firm on their faith and in the Word of God, because no matter what they hear, that doesn't change the Word of God doesn't change. Pj: Right. Correct. Absolutely. Randy: Yeah. And I tend to agree with people if, we were to find out that, you know, these are actually alien beings from another galaxy, I would agree with the people who say, well, Hey, that doesn't change my faith because God made them. God, God made these beings, even though I personally believe that they're not from another universe or another galaxy, they're from right here. And they've been here with us the whole time because the Bible talks about them. Pj: Right, right, right. And I mean, man, it leads me to believe that I'm in agreement with you. It doesn't shake my fate, but it leads me to to wonder, OK, like if they're telling us then then obviously, like you said, I think it is the work of the enemy because it's like it's for a point. Right. So what what other like what else would you be accomplishing by saying, OK, some of you know there's aliens here. Randy: Mm-hmm. Pj: you know, to what point does this just say, hey, can we live peacefully together or no, that doesn't make sense. That's not, you know, the motive in my opinion is to say, you know, I believe I firmly believe that everybody wants to believe in something. And even those people that choose not to believe in God, they'd be they'd be willing to say, ⁓ ha ha ha. See, for all you Bible thumpers, I told you there was something else out there and this is it. And I'm I'm invested in this. You know what mean? I mean, Randy: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, and you got the Richard Dawkins of the world who say, like, I don't believe in God, but I'm totally on board with the idea that maybe aliens seeded life on Earth. Like, that just pushes back the argument another level. Like, then who created the aliens? how many times do you say alien life was seeded before you get to, well, who created them? There had to be a creator. Pj: Right. Right. But I mean, it's scattered out through throughout the Bible in our history. Like we people in general are always looking for something else to create to worship. Excuse me. You know what mean? They they had, you know, ⁓ Moses on on on the mountain getting the Ten Commandments talking to God directly. they're like, hey, let's make a golden calf. Like, what are you what are we doing here? You just watch everything God did firsthand to get you out of Egypt. Randy: Yeah. Right, right. Mmm. Pj: And but they couldn't wait to worship something else. I don't know if that's just that part of that separation, you know, from that spiritual death in the garden. And it just like, I don't know, man, what it is. But this just seems like inherent human nature. You know what mean? It's wild. Randy: Right? And it's like, it's like so hard for people to have faith in God that they got to invent something more tangible, even if it's something made with their own hands or their own imagination, they have to invent something that they could have a little bit more concrete evidence for than, you know, than just having faith. Pj: ⁓ 100%. Right. Yep. Right. that's that's it's just it's wild, man. It's wild. Yeah, I'm ready. I'm interested to see. But I'm also ⁓ hesitant a little bit because it makes me nervous because I'm like, man, I think that, you know, this is things are about to get crazy if they start if they start trying to be this open and honest and transparent about things that they've been hiding and probably killing people over. for years, it's like, ⁓ man, what is about to happen? What is coming down the pipe? You know what mean? What is the new norm going to even look like? Randy: Right. Right, right. Well, I got the the US Department of War website open. What do you think about jumping in and taking a look at some of the files, maybe some of the videos? Maybe we could start with some of the videos that's on there. Pj: Yeah, absolutely. Let's put some meat on the bone. Randy: All right, let's see. Let me try to share my screen here. Pj: Hey, while you're doing that, I don't know why. I don't know if it's going to pick it up, but your screen keeps like something blinks. It looks like a distortion a little bit. It just did it again. Randy: Yeah, I see. Yeah, I see. I wonder if my camera let me check my connections. Now I messed up my angle as I was checking my connection there. everything seems like it's plugged in tight i'm not sure everything seems like it's plugged in pretty tight so i don't know hopefully hopefully it doesn't pick up that Pj: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I hope not. mean, and if if it does, it's really not that big of a deal. You know what mean? It doesn't it doesn't like completely black you out. It's just like it reminds me of Fight Club. Remember whenever he insert them little clips and he like it just happened for a split second, but you knew you saw it. It's kind of like that. Randy: see here. There's that. All right, are you still seeing my screen? Are you seeing the US Department of War? Pj: Yep. yeah, looks yeah, this is awesome. Yeah, cool deal. Randy: Okay. All right. All right. So let's take a look here, brother. So, all right. So I'm just on the U S department of war. ⁓ you could see the statement here about it being cleared for release. There are videos, there are images, PDFs. I noticed a lot of these say PDF. So let's take a look. Let's get to some of the videos and see what we have. So the first three pages looks like they're mostly PDFs. Let's see here. So this is cool that just literally anybody could go on here. I've seen a lot of news stories where they've pulled up videos and they've shared some of the documents. But I mean, literally anybody could just open this up and browse through it. Pj: You used to have to be a hacker to get this kind of access, huh? Randy: Yeah, no kidding. Alright, so I'm starting to see some dot vids here. So let's and you can see here in the description, this one says unresolved UAP report Middle East May 2022. Alright, so let's see if this plays here. Alright, okay, so something just flew across the screen. Pj: Wow. Yeah, pretty quick. And that kind of looked like a similar cylinder shape like you were kind of talking about earlier. That's loud. Randy: Yeah, I made it so fast. It's kind of hard to say. It just looked like a streak to me. let's go back and see what else we see. I'm just going to kind of skip around a little bit here. Let's see. What is this one? So this looks like some sort of clouds or something here. Pj: Yeah. Yeah. I like, this is one, I think that's the, the little light up towards the left corner. I like this. It's kind of like, yeah, whenever they're able to follow it for a while, cause it gives you just a, a difference of perspective of like how quickly these things move and how like quickly they turn and just, it's just weird. You know what I mean? Randy: Right here. Let me pause it right there. you see that? You can kind of see like a shape. Do you see that shape to it? It's kind of, I mean, it almost looks like a bird or something, but obviously it wouldn't be a bird because it's going way too fast and they would know if it was a bird. I'm sure it's way too big too, but it's kind of got like a bird like shape to me. Pj: Yeah. Yeah, it did have, it's not like a, you know, typically you think of like a UFO as like this symmetrical thing, right? This salsa, yeah. Randy: Look at right there. I mean that almost looks like I don't know what that looks like but I mean it's it's kind of got like I don't know it almost looks like a set of wings like four wings. Pj: Yeah, it does. Yeah, it has a an odd shape to it. Randy: kind of like an X. Yeah, it's kind of like an X shape right there. It kind of looks like a bird. Just kind of pausing it to get the stills like right there that to me that that would just look like a bird right there. But again, I'm sure it's going way too fast and it's way too big, but it has like a similar shape. Pj: Yeah, it's wild. Yeah, it's wild to see. Randy: really crazy. And that one it says, let's see, where was this? This is over the UAE in October of 2023. Pj: And, you know, I'm also interested to find out like some of the very earliest ones, like how long have they they literally been documenting these things? Randy: Well, I mean, we know it goes back to the Apollo mission. So it's that's like 80 years ago. Pj: Right, but I'm just saying like, know, because they've, I don't know, and I'm just... Randy: This is a really long video here. Look at this one. This one says it's almost five minutes. I'm not even seeing it yet. Do you see it? Pj: No, I was about to say I don't see where the object is in this. But what's crazy is if you take out what looks like that port, someone can be convinced that this is like Mars terrain or something. It's crazy. Randy: ⁓ I'm just kind of skipping ahead to see. Okay, so there. Pj: I mean, see something, yeah, tiny. Yeah, okay. They kind of zoomed in on it. Maybe that, and see it, you see it like there's like a streak behind it. Like it leaves a. Randy: Yeah. ⁓ there it goes. Did you see that something was flying in the center of the screen and something zoomed by from the left? Did you see that? I'm gonna back up just a second just to see it again. Pj: Yeah, the upper, yeah, above it. Randy: Whatever that is, it's moving really fast. Both objects are moving fast. The object that's moving back and forth in the center of the screen, you know that's so far away that for it to move from the left side to the right side and back, I mean, it's gotta be moving really, really crazy fast. Pj: Yeah. Well, then the craziest thing is even in times like this, whenever it kind of seems like they have it like locked in, how it almost just seems to just stop. Then look, it just picks up speed out of nowhere and it just goes crazy. And then it almost like just kind of just stop. You know what mean? And I'm only anticipating that because unless they were moving the camera at the exact same speed and angle, you know what I mean? It's like the Randy: Right. Pj: it just stops and it's standing in the same focal point, you know what The same spot. It's wild. Yeah, man, it's crazy. And does it say what they observed this with? Like was this via another aircraft or is this some kind of surveillance? Randy: It says the IR sensor. So let's see, says, well, it's kind of given like different timestamps here on the left. An area of contrast becomes distinguishable against the background in the center of the right side of the display. A tool for the IR sensor pins to center on the area of contrast. Pj: Does it say what an IR? ⁓ Infrared. Infrared. Infrared. Okay. Randy: ⁓ that's just infrared. Yeah. Infrared. Yeah. I mean, obviously this is, and so most of these videos, I'm pretty sure all of them that I've seen are infrared. What I've heard from like Senator, what is his name? Tim Borsher. ⁓ and some other folks, they have seen like, no kidding, 4k high resolution, fully color images. And those are coming in the future. Pj: That's wild. Randy: So stay tuned folks, there's gonna be a lot more of these files released and some of them are gonna be a lot better. This is just to get everybody started. This is just to get the conversation going. Pj: Absolutely, just make sure people are paying attention and seeing that these things are happening and they're coming down the pipe. Yeah, we're probably gonna see some alien with the iPhone 1000 taken with selfies, you know what mean? In front of a UFO. It's wild, man. So crazy. So, so crazy. Randy: see this one is over grease let's see what this one looks like just a little dot from here. Pj: And I've seen some really, some really crazy footage, you know. ⁓ wow. And see that that one I find has more of like a like an egg shape almost, you know what mean? Like ⁓ where it's it's kind of tapered on the top and then it comes down to more fullness. That's why. Yeah. Randy: Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's definitely more round. Some of these other objects, cylinder shape, more like a star shape. This one's definitely more rounded. Pj: Yeah, you can see on that one like you're talking about had more edges like rigid edges, you know? Yeah, man, crazy stuff. Crazy, crazy stuff. Randy: Yeah, yeah. Let's see here, another one in Greece. Let's see what this one looks like. anything anything ⁓ i need to hit play Pj: Like did you see that the way it shot up and then shot left that quick like that's nuts, Look, you see? Randy: Yep. Pj: That's wild. Just like dancing back and forth. And then, like I said, you can almost see, ⁓ like that, the, the trail that leaves behind as it, as it jets, you know, from one side to another, that's, ⁓ wow. You saw that? Randy: Look at this thing, how it moves. Pj: Insane. And see, like seeing those kind of sporadic movements almost makes you think like, were they trying to make sure that they were seen? Because I mean, honestly, you know, what would be the purpose, right? Of a flight pattern like that? You know what I mean? Like, wow. Randy: Alright. Right. So this, mean, this is some sort of vessel, some sort of vessel just navigating the, I think it said the Persian Gulf or the Arabian Gulf, which we'll see what was that. Yeah, the, it says Middle East. I thought it said one of those Gulfs. But then as you're watching this vessel, all of sudden something just shoots by it, just going at phenomenal speeds. Pj: insane. ⁓ Randy: Let's play it again. Look at that. Pj: And I wonder, you know, it's hard to tell from this video, but I wonder if that's actually above the water or below it. You know what mean? Because I've seen, like I said, it hasn't been ⁓ substantiated yet in the way that these videos have. But man, I've seen so many things where, like you mentioned before, you know, there's these events that take place in these certain bodies of water, like, you know, repeatedly. You know what mean? Randy: Right. Yeah, that one said the Arabian Gulf, by the way. Look at this one. So this one says Southern United States. So it doesn't get any more specific, but it says Southern US. Let's see what we what do we have here. So this from here looks more like some sort of orb or at least some sort of, you know, round metallic object. Pj: Hmm. Randy: Hmm, now it doesn't look as round. Now I'm seeing more shape to it. Do see that? Pj: It's hard to... ⁓ yeah, yeah. Wow. Randy: Now that it zooms in, kind of see like two different sides to it. Pj: From what I could see it almost reminds me of like this spacecraft on Independence day And I mean with the little thing on top you see how it has the wings with like the little little round at top on it. Randy: Mm-hmm. It's moving, whatever it is, it's Now it looks even more different. Pj: yeah. yeah, the shape completely changed. looked like it was starting to spiral almost. Randy: Well, that last like view that we had for like that last second, I mean, it had more of like a to me. Yeah, like right there. You see that? Look at it. It has more like a now it looks more flatter and more like oval flat oval type of shape. Pj: Yeah, like, yeah. Yeah, it's wild. Randy: What I want to get to, what I want to find is the eight-pointed star, that which has been making, you know, the biggest ⁓ headlines. Let's see if we can find that one. is not it but let's see what this is okay ⁓ wow whoa Pj: Whoa, that's wild. Whoa. Randy: This yeah, so let's see what this says. So the Department of the Army submitted a report of an unidentified anomalous phenomenon to the all domain anomaly resolution offices consisting of one minute and 49 seconds of video from an infrared sensor aboard a US military platform in 26. The reporter did not provide any oral or written description of the observation. So they just said here's the video. We're not even going to give you any commentations. Like this is This is it. No commentary. Just the video. They're like, speaks for itself. What do you call this stuff? Pj: That's Yeah. Well, and it's crazy, man, because, that it almost looks like headlights, right? And that that resonates with me because I distinctly remembered like driving ⁓ back to Colorado from Louisiana whenever I was young and riding through New Mexico and being on this long road that was very much like this and you would see, we would see, I saw them personally, would see like these two lights either behind you or like coming and then you'd never see a vehicle like pass like all of a sudden they would just stop and it's like there's this was I mean it was just a road with with you know nowhere to turn off this was just a straight road other than it kind of having hills so you would kind of wait to see these lights come again back over the crest or or you know whatever And it just wouldn't happen, man. So that's that's wild to see that. That's that's crazy. 100 percent. 100 percent. Yeah, that's that's crazy. Randy: That's what this looks like. It looks like what you, what you were describing. I gotta go back to the beginning of this video because the beginning was crazy. What was in the center of the screen? What is this? So this thing, mean, it's kind of, ⁓ that looked like a drone. Was that a drone? That had to be like a drone. Pj: Yeah. ⁓ wow. I don't know, but it took off, but like look in the very beginning, look how much, what is that? Randy: So it looks like a bug. To me it's got like an ant shape, but it looks like it could be like a reaper drone or something. You see how when it takes off it looks like it's got wings? Pj: Yeah. Randy: Yeah, I don't know. I wonder if that is ours, if that's like a drone of some sort. Pj: I I don't know. the crazy thing is, watch how much of like ⁓ a car coming at you this thing looks whenever it shows up. Like what? It's like a car turning at you. Like boom. You know what mean? I'm telling you, I've seen that firsthand. Yeah, 100%. But it was very much low to the ground. Like I said, me and other family members in the vehicle were 100 % convinced that it was Randy: Right. You've seen this. Pj: You know just regular vehicles on the road either behind us or coming towards us that just never Like never passed, you know, you could see the ⁓ wow It looks like that he must have turned because it looks like one lights higher than the other now where a little while ago There are more parallel Randy: Yeah, I mean, it looks like two orbs that are like joined together. They kind of look like they're slightly moving independently, but they're also like in sync. Pj: Yeah. Wow. Randy: That is wild. Let's see what else. All right, so let me see if I can find the video that's, I would say is probably one of the videos, if not the video that has made the biggest waves, and that's the video of the eight-pointed star. So we're looking for a video, let's see, it would have been in 2013, somewhere in the Middle East. It's under two minutes long. So let's see here. Pj: Yeah. Randy: And these all have the release date. doesn't say the recorded date does it? ⁓ it should be the next page. It's number 38. So let's see here. I think it should be this one right here. Okay. So I think, yeah, this is the, this should be the eight point at star. Yeah. Let's take a look at it. All right. There we go. So for anyone who's seen this video on the news or on YouTube, Pj: Wow. Randy: You seen how we got to it. We literally, we were on the government website. We looked for video number 38. Here it is. Pj: You know, what struck me the most about this obviously is that it's star shaped, right? And then you could see the trail behind it. So you know, it's being, there's some kind of propulsion there, but it reminds me of, ⁓ you know, just like, I guess going back to even though we kind of know it was debunked, just this idea of like either, you know, Satan. Randy: Mm-hmm. Pj: being an angel of light, transforming into an angel of light or whenever they reference him as the morning star. Just these kind of things is what kind of pops into my head initially whenever I'm like, man, could you imagine seeing this thing just glowing, coming at you, and then it landing and turning into a person? People are going to be deceived like crazy. You know what mean? That's a hard... What's that square thing that looks like it was flying around in the background to the left? Did you see that? Randy: Mm-hmm. So before I get to that, because I do want to tell you what I think that, well, or at least what I've heard about that, a lot of people have taken this image, they've taken like a screenshot of this image, and they've compared it to, you know, artist renderings of Ezekiel's wheel. Have you seen any of those? Pj: Yeah, yeah, that's yeah, I mean the the only the only reason I wouldn't make that correlation but I can I'll tell you that in a minute, but yeah, I can definitely I Can see how people would get there? Randy: So this, so let me just back out of here for a second because this is one of those files. Let me back out. Let me just read what it says. it says the video description is provided for informational purpose only. Readers should not interpret any part of this description as reflecting an analytical judgment, investigation, conclusion, or factual determination regarding the described events, validity, nature, or significance. And again, these files that were released, these were all what they said were basically unexplained. Right? These were like, for all these files, all these reports, ⁓ they try to look for what's called a prosaic answer. Right? Was it birds? Was it balloons? Was it, you know, swamp gas reflecting off the light of Venus? Right? What was it? Could it be a drone? Was it some sort of known aircraft? Could it be a secret military aircraft? They looked at all of these different possibilities and then they said, these are the ones we just don't know. Pj: Right, right. Right. Randy: And literally President Trump said, you know, here you go, have fun. You know, what do you guys think? We don't know. Right. And so as you're reading through this description here, it says, you know, ⁓ the area of contrast moves within the sensors, field of view, followed by a visible trail, which you alluded to. And what is that trail? Could that trail be some sort of heat signature? Could it be some sort of propulsion? Who knows? It seems to follow the device or whatever this thing is. Right. Pj: Mm-hmm. Randy: ⁓ says following an apparent cut the area of contrast generally remains within the sensors field of view before exiting the frame from the top left quarter of the screen. So this is all just a description. This is like basically what you're seeing in the description on the left is really just describing what this video is all about. It's not any kind of analysis or judgment. They're just saying we don't know what this is. ⁓ And so I've heard the comparison. I've seen the comparisons to Ezekiel's wheel. I do think that they're they're compelling. I mean, when you see the description and we've talked about Ezekiel's will before and when you when you hear the description and you see what artists, know, their best, you know, rendition of Ezekiel's will and you compare it to this, it's like, okay, there does seem to be something there. However, I did see some analysis that said that ⁓ there's at least some folks who think that there is a prosaic explanation for this. ⁓ And that explanation is basically that it is a flair. Pj: Yeah. Randy: with some sort of parachute attached to it. Have you heard that? So that square that you mentioned, I'm trying to get to it, on the left would probably be the parachute. ⁓ The trail that we see coming off of it would probably be some sort of smoke signature from the flare. So the flare is what we're seeing as the star shape. The smoke would be the trail coming off of it. And then occasionally you see kind of this square rectangular image to its left. Pj: No. Randy: I'm guessing that would be the parachute and I don't know what there goes. So you kind of see it overshadowing it on the top and on the left there. I could see that I could see that potentially being the case. ⁓ I don't know what kind of exercises they would be doing at night with a flare that's attached to some sort of parachute but look right there. Did you see that? That checks to me that looks like that's very, very well what that could be. Did you see it again? Let me let me try to pause it. Pj: Yeah. Yeah. ⁓ I did and it does have like a parachute type shape. ⁓ Randy: Even the way it's moving in comparison to the star looks like it could be a parachute. Pj: I just, so I don't know why the parachute wouldn't be more consistently in frame. ⁓ But I mean, who knows? Yeah, I mean, yeah. Randy: Right. Who knows? So that's one possible explanation. I don't know. I don't know what it is. But obviously, my original thought, my initial thought I should say is that if that's if that would be pretty simple of an explanation, if that's what it is, I would think that, you know, someone in our government would have would have figured that out. Yeah, it should have been debunked and never been released in these files is my thought if that's really what it is. Pj: that the government Yeah, they could have debunked that one. Yeah. 100 % Right. Right. Randy: But it does, I could see that it doesn't look like that could be some sort of flare attached to some sort of parachute and the way it's bouncing around in comparison, the flare, I've never seen a flare under infrared, you know, ⁓ sensors, but I'd like to see someone replicate this. Pj: Right. At least try. Yeah. And then I guess it leads me to think like, wouldn't if it was, I don't know, man. I don't know. Randy: Yeah, but to me, this was one of the most compelling, you know, videos, this is seems to be the one that has gotten probably the most attention. ⁓ And it'd be very ironic if the video that's gotten the most attention ends up having like a very simple explanation. Don't you think? Pj: Yeah. Yeah. mean, man, you know, watching it kind of with with that context in mind, though, I mean, yeah, I mean, well, you know, the crazy thing is, is the first time I saw it, I'm like, it's the first thing that popped in my head was it looked like a parachute. But I'm like, that would be parachuting next to a UFO. You know what mean? But, you know, I wasn't I didn't have the whole context. But mean, that is the shape. Randy: You can see it. Pj: that you think of it. thought I think about those people who, you know, go cliff diving stuff and just hurry up and open those parachutes and just kind of glide like that's kind of like the shape that you you'd see. You know what mean? So and I don't know why necessarily a flare would be attached to a parachute like you wanted to have a safe landing. I'm pretty sure, you know, those things shoot pretty high and just I don't know who knows. But yeah, man, it's interesting stuff. Interesting for sure. Randy: Yeah. very, very interesting. Let me stop sharing my screen now because I got this like infinity sharing going on here. All right. So we've taken a look at some of the files. It's pretty crazy. As we said, this is just a start. We know that there's going to be a lot more to come. Pj: Tip of the iceberg, man. And I'm excited to kind of see the quality of the next round. ⁓ I think ⁓ Trump, what was he saying is going to be next? I don't remember exactly what it was, but it sounded like he was kind of ramping it up a little bit. ⁓ He kind of teased at, ⁓ I saw something earlier. Let me see. Randy: Yeah. Why I definitely think this is, you know, they've released stuff that is, you know, it's sensor imaging. It's some, some, some still photos, some documents to read what astronauts have seen some very old stuff. So not so old stuff, but it's not very clear visually. It's very, it seems very planned to me. It's, it was just meant to just kind of wet, you know, the pallet a little bit here and just want you to. desire more and just to get you thinking about the possibilities before they really start to feed us what it is that they want us to think about this whole thing. Pj: 100%. And so I saw something and I'm here on this Fox News who released this, their report on this. And this is something that I hadn't seen in anything else, but it gets your attention. It says that Obama agrees that aliens are real, but says that he hasn't seen them in a recent podcast interview. So, whenever you start getting former president Randy: Mmm. Pj: Barack Obama agreeing with something that Donald Trump is saying, there's got to be some validity to it. Randy: Yeah, so if you haven't seen that whole thing, they asked Obama, are aliens real? Point blank. And he said, yes, they are real. But I haven't seen them and no, they're not at Area 51. Then a reporter asked Trump, they said, hey, what do you have to say about President Obama saying that aliens are real? He said, well, he shouldn't be saying that. That's classified information. Pj: Wow. Randy: Yeah, he said that's classified information. And so they were like, well, so you're saying that, you know, they're real. He's like, ⁓ I don't know. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying that he could get in very big trouble. But, know, I might just go ahead and release all the files anyway. That's kind of how that went down. If you have that video, you should just you should just play it because. Pj: Yeah. ⁓ I don't have the video. It just pops up. ⁓ This is just the news coverage of what they released. But yeah, man. Randy: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that was, I think it was honestly, I think it was that conversation that led to Trump wanting to release all these files because that was kind of how that exchange went. And he might've been thinking, well, you know, hold on a second. Now, maybe I'm in trouble because I just spoke about something. Cause cause if you're, if you have a clearance and I do have a clearance by the way. ⁓ so I can tell you firsthand that when you do have a clearance, you're not allowed to say yes or no about something. that has to do with whatever it is that you were read in on. You're supposed to just not say anything at all. So if you were read in on a project, let's just say, you know, back when they were developing stealth, right? When they were developing the stealth capabilities for bombers. If you were an engineer working on a stealth project and you were approached and someone said, is it true that the government is working on stealth technology? You couldn't lie and say no, even when you knew that it was true. And you definitely couldn't say yes. All you can say is I have no information about that. I have no comment. That's, that's what you're supposed to do. Yeah. Pj: Yeah. Right. No comment. Yeah. That's wild. Man. Yeah. So I just thought that that was interesting because like I said, when you know, you have these two widely opposing figures agreeing on stuff and it's like, ⁓ man, okay. Well, yeah. Randy: So it's gonna be interesting to see where this whole thing goes. But let's remind everybody, man, why are we even talking about this today? this is the Walk Talk Faith in Motion podcast. Why are we talking about the UAP file dump that they just released a couple days ago? Pj: Because man, you know, we're not only, you know, told by by Jesus to not be deceived, explicitly warned, do not be deceived. But we're also told to be prepared to be watchful. You know what mean? To understand what like what's going on around us in this world, you know? Yeah, we're to be in it, but not of it kind of thing. And these are all things that directly tie back to our relationship with with God. Period. You know what I mean? Randy: Right. Right. Pj: ⁓ And and I think that it's important to you know to have the conversations Hey look if you know anybody thinks that we should be be wearing boil hats. Hey fair enough. You know what mean pray for us Right. Yeah, but ⁓ but you know at the same time We're just praying for the rest of our brothers and sisters that whenever these things start coming out that they don't get caught up in the Deception and that their eyes their spiritual eyes are open and they're they're ready and they're prepared Randy: thin foil hats, yeah. Yeah. Right. Right, right. Yeah, exactly. And very well said. you know, I'll just, you know, I agree with you that, you know, from my perspective, you know, I definitely, definitely believe that the Bible has already told us what they are. And that if, you know, as much as I would say that the Bible doesn't tell us everything, the Bible doesn't tell us that we're going to have computers and AI and airplanes and all this stuff. So I don't expect everything to be in the Bible. Pj: Right. Randy: But when it comes to life that was created by God, there is no mention of life outside of this planet. All we hear about is, you know, humans, the animals that that Adam named. We hear about the the Elohim, the spiritual beings that God created that are our older siblings in the universe. And they're all, you know, talked about as being right here on this planet. So whatever it is. that is gonna be revealed to us and whatever the government or whoever claims that it is, to me it always comes back to what the Bible says and anything other than that is a deception. And like you said, I don't wanna be deceived. I don't want ⁓ any of our fellow believers to be deceived. And I definitely think that if a person is not paying attention to this topic at all, If you just write this off as conspiracy theory, tinfoil hat wearing, conspirators, what have you, and you just totally ignore it. And then one day you just wake up and what you see on the news is a being that looks like an alien. And the story is, here's our creator. It's this guy and his species that created us. And you know. evolution is real and God is not and blah blah blah. I could see how a person could be deceived but if you're following along and you're being as gentle as doves and wise as serpents along the way and letting the spirit within you discern what's actually happening or what could be happening, think that you have a lot less, the chance is a lot less likely that you'll actually be deceived and that you'll lose your faith if that's even possible. Pj: Yeah. Randy: I just want people to be prepared. I want to be prepared. I want to make sure that we're thinking through this and that we're using our best judgment and we're having conversations about it because again, that's really what this show is all about. That's what this is. It's just a conversation about things that are relevant to our spiritual walk. Pj: And the disclaimer says we don't shy away from the tough topics and that's real. And the thing about it is, for those people who might think that we're crazy or conspiracy theorists or whatever, just remember that's what they said about all the people who have been talking about this stuff that they're legitimizing right now. You know what mean? just kind of keep that in mind for just because. And remember also the reason why. Randy: That's right. Mmm. Pj: it's taken so long for them to disclose this information and be so transparent with all of us is from what I understand is because they didn't think that we can handle it as a society. They thought that it would make us question everything that we knew. So if that was their thought process, then how logically can that not translate over to what we know as believers? And unfortunately, as believers of Christ, Randy: Mm-hmm. Right. Pj: Sometimes it is very hard for things to shift our faith. You can sit here and walk this thing out, and you have to walk it out day by day. But I mean, I've seen people who have unfortunately been swayed by a death in a family, a tragedy something, and they start questioning, why would God? There's so many things that cause people who are on the right path to deviate. And I think that those are... ⁓ either certain situations or little seeds that have been planted that that you know little deceptions that that cause them to veer off so I mean if you don't think that's something on this level ⁓ that is going to literally affect our our whole human history and and how we view things and stuff like that you know then then I would I'm praying that you know what I mean that Like Randy said, you use your discernment because this is a lot of real stuff. It's crazy stuff, but it's real stuff. man, it's only getting started. Randy: It's only it is only getting started and great analogy man, because you're absolutely right I mean there we've all heard the stories of people who have you know had their faith just totally rocked and they either you know Stop believing in God or they get mad at God and they just like walk away from him or you know, what happened? know, what have you I mean? Whether it's the death of a child or a spouse or you know all the crazy things that happen in this world that challenge us ⁓ you know, and all the trials and tribulations that we go through on a regular basis. Yeah, I mean, sometimes people go through things that really do challenge their faith and they walk away. And, you know, we just don't want this to be one of those things. Pj: Absolutely, ⁓ man. yeah, knowledge is power and you know, ⁓ we serve an all powerful God and just, you know, like I said, this is just to keep you informed. and I mean, I'm curious to kind of hear where other believers are on this topic, because I mean, honestly, this is a topic that that I feel like for us started before we we knew God or before we were walking with God. And, know, and so and and You know, it was it was one of those things where whenever I became a believer, I didn't necessarily say, oh, well, that must all be fake. I just kind of was like, yeah, kind of put it on the back burner, similar to how, you know, your conversation with Hans was whenever you were young, like, hey, listen, I believe in God. But what's the deal with these aliens? Like, how do we you know, and people go through these things with the same thing with dinosaurs and all these things like, oh, well, the Bible doesn't say so. You know, we're in our walks. always looking for answers to these these questions that, you know, Randy: Right, right. Pj: depending on where we are, what we've looked into doesn't necessarily line up. But I mean, I think that these things are very much proven to be right there hand in hand being in tandem. And we're watching it unfold, man. And it's wild. It's wild. Randy: It is wild and this is just a start. So y'all stay tuned because as they release more files, we're definitely going to be talking about, you know, what we see. I'm sure that this is, ⁓ what word did you use earlier? You didn't say disappointing. You said, ⁓ underwhelming, anticlimatic. Yeah, as anticlimatic or underwhelming as these files might've been, I'm sure it's only gonna go up from here. So as we start to see more and more, Pj: Anti-climatic. Mm. Randy: Believe that we will be back talking about it. And like PJ said earlier, we definitely, definitely want to hear from you all in the comments and tell us what you think. Tell us what you think about, you know, some of the stuff that we looked at together today, as well as the things that you maybe have been hearing or seeing wherever you get your news and information. All right, man. Well, what do you think? Pj: Absolutely. think that's a wrap for now until this next wave of information comes flooding in. Randy: 100%. All right. Well, hey, I think that does it for this episode of the walk talk. Thank you all so much for joining us today. And if you haven't already, please remember to like and subscribe and follow the show. And before you go, just let us know your thoughts in the comments below. God bless. Pj: God bless. Randy: Alright man, ⁓ I'll edit this one and clean it up a little bit.