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David Kaplan on Chicago sports, John Bohnenkamp talks Dodgers and Hawkeyes & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  All right, hour number two, welcome back, Miller and Cond
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  and Iowa Sports Radio Network. Trent and I with you here until
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  2:00. Still to come this hour, John
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  Bowencamp, Associated Press. Let's get the Cappy off to
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  Chicago. We shall go Cappy.
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  All right, without your music. Yeah, where is where is my
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  music? Technical difficulty, we're
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  having trouble here. We got clock issues where we're
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  coming back from the we got our network that that needs to
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  connect to 30 after, but we came back, we got we got issues over
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  here, but we're persevering through it absolutely.
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  We'll play it twice next. Week Ryan Mcguffey just got
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  knocked off the Internet and he's like technical difficulties
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  here. I'm like, Oh my God, OK.
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  Not good when you're on the Internet, Absolutely.
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  That ASW stuff hit me with my podcast hard.
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  What? What is?
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  That what are you talking about? Amazon servers were down, yeah.
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  Yeah, yeah. Amazon Web.
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  Services. It was a dessert because we use
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  AI programs, we use different places for the podcast, other
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  things for the video. I mean, it's just there's so
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  many things that, guess what, They're almost all under that
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  umbrella. Did it get you cap 2 with your
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  cap channel? That doesn't dare mess.
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  With me, good stuff. Let's let's let's start with the
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  Chicago Bears. And by all, by all accounts, you
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  know, Lamar Jackson was going to be back.
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  But now it doesn't sound like he is going to be back.
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  There's some question mark whether when the Bears get to
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  head to Baltimore this weekend that Lamar Jackson will be
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  awaiting them. The Bears are, having won their
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  last four straight, certainly much rather face a Raven squad
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  as bad as they are on defense and without their, you know,
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  otherworldly quarter back Lamar Jackson on offense.
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  What are you hearing about the prospects of Jackson perhaps
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  missing another game cap? So there is some of that
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  speculation. He is on the practice field
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  today, but limited. So he's not really doing a lot.
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  Ben Johnson so said today. This is his quote.
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  We are preparing for Baltimore as if Lamar Jackson is playing.
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  That's our starting point. I think that's where you have to
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  start the conversation. Cap you, you just do.
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  And yes, they're a completely different team.
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  But Lamar, he takes more. The other part is, you know, how
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  healthy is he going to be those kind of things.
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  This is still a desperate team. This is a team in Baltimore that
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  has to get a victory. The Bears have been so good
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  getting those turnovers, forcing those kind of things.
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  Is it just led to a more difficult just week in general
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  getting ready for opponent because it's such a big question
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  with Lamar? So you're saying is it difficult
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  to prepare? Yes, absolutely.
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  I don't think it is because I would imagine it'd be Snoop
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  Huntley that would start and he is obviously not Lamar, but he
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  is a reasonable facsimile style wise.
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  It's not like you've got Andy Dalton coming in to run Lamar
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  Jackson's offense. You've got a guy who can run,
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  can throw on the move. So it's a similar style.
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  I think it's the same game prep week and it comes down to how
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  did the Bears play period. And there is going to be a game
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  and I think it's this one. If Lamar plays for sure Caleb
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  Williams has to go win that game for you.
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  Like he won very good last week. That's just the fact.
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  The week before he was fine, passable.
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  They won four straight. He hasn't killed them, you know,
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  with major mistakes, but this is a game you're going on the road
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  against an opponent who, albeit they have a substandard record
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  right now, that team has won 12 games.
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  So I think the last two years each, they've been seven out of
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  eight in the playoffs and started the season.
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  ESPN them ranked. ESPN had them ranked the number
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  one roster in the National Football League.
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  So I think it's a tough game to win.
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  I really do, especially if Lamar plays.
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  Kappa, what's kind of the I guess the the word around
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  Colston Loveland. I just look at his stats.
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  This is the 10th overall pick in the draft. 8 passes.
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  That's all he's caught. This year's yet to take a ball.
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  Carry Do you see what Tyler Warren's doing?
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  No, I have. Especially right when you could
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  have had him. Is Loveland a disappointment so
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  far? Kappa.
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  Too early to to go there. Way too early to go there and he
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  was injured, he missed. Early.
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  Time with a hip injury and last week those of us you're talking
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  to, one who bet his over on yards, albeit a low number.
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  We all were happy cashing at the window, so his blocking was much
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  better last week and I do think he's going to be a really,
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  really good player. I did too, I just was kind of
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  surprised that he's only caught 8 balls.
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  Yeah, watching what's happened in Indianapolis, I think just
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  rubbing salt in the wound just a little bit.
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  I. Think the Bears would take
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  Colston Loveland over Tyler Warren today?
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  Really. Not a surprise with that
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  organization. The trade deadline is coming up
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  on November 4th and with it the Bears still have holes.
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  We'll see what the record looks like when they get to that
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  point, but edge rusher at the top of the wish list cap.
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  Yeah, but for me, I'm not giving up draft capital for, you know,
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  some guy like there was speculation.
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  This kid from The Jets who has I think one sack this year,
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  Jermaine Johnson. If you tell me, Trey
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  Hendrickson, Max Crosby, especially Max Crosby, if he's
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  fully available, I'm all in. What is the price?
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  Let me know. All in.
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  I want that guy. I don't know if he is.
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  Yesterday, Tom fellas, Farrow said that the the Raiders
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  brought him in and said you have our word, you're not getting
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  traded. Now Jerry Jones said that about
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  Michael Parsons too, and he wears that puke green and gold.
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  So I don't think he's getting traded, but if he's available, I
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  think the Bears would be all in. Miles Garrett, two guys that are
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  so good at that, what they do and they both play for
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  absolutely putrid teams and I'm not sure you can see a light at
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  any one of the tunnels of those two franchises at this point.
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  So what's kind of feel about the Bears now, Cap?
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  Obviously the Vikings have their struggles.
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  The Lions get there. They get creamed by the Chiefs.
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  They look like world beaters on Monday night.
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  I'm still not completely sold on the Packers.
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  I know what the record says and I may have missed that boat.
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  I could be dead wrong. But what's the feeling about the
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  Bears at this point of the season?
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  6 games into it. Solid, unspectacular football
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  team that is exceptionally well coached as a great vibe going up
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  in Lake Forest. And again, if Caleb takes a
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  significant step and you go wow, Caleb Williams was outstanding.
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  The Bears can win a hell of a lot of football games.
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  They just can't. I think they're a better team
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  than people realize, but I also think if he doesn't elevate his
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  level of play, there's some losses coming.
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  Certainly was not sharp against the Saints.
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  They were able to run the football.
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  Now that's two consecutive games where the run game certainly has
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  got going to side of things to gum is that the offensive line
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  started finally clicking as they made some moving pieces there
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  with Jones bouncing out. What is it?
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  Is it the running game? Just figured it out.
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  Ben Johnson figuring it out and play calling or an offensive
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  line that's finally taking that step forward.
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  Offensive line and Swift, they're running him more
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  outside, more zone blocking In a guy like DeAndre Swift, he's not
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  great between the tackles. So it's worked out that these
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  did this position group of running back and offensive line.
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  Somebody up there said to me, yeah, the offensive line was
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  like five guys grabbing an instrument, trying to make a
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  band, and now it looks more like a Symphony, like they're moving
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  in concert. So I don't think it's as simple
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  as Theo and that went in for Braxton Jones.
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  I think you've got the 10th pick at right tackle.
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  He's back from injury. You've got a $14 million right
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  guard, a $14 million center, a $17 million left guard and
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  Bennett. That's been serviceable.
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  So I I do think they're going to continue to run the ball well.
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  I'll be surprised if they don't most weeks.
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  Three out of their next four are on the road, and though none of
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  them are overly daunting with the questions with Baltimore
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  certainly this week at Cincinnati, home game against
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  the Giants maybe looks a little more difficult, and then a road
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  trip up to Minnesota after that. This next 4 game stretch it
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  feels important. At minimum two and two.
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  If they can't get to that, are we having a completely different
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  conversation and more big picture questions about this
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  team? If they they struggle and you
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  told me they went, I mean, I don't see a scenario where they
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  go, oh, and four, two and two I think is a passable grade
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  because all of a sudden you're 6:00 and 4:00, you've got 7
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  games left and you have a chance to get yourself to the playoffs.
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  You really do. I think they can go three and
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  one the next four. I do.
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  If they can do that. And now you're 7 and three.
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  Yeah, you're in really good shape.
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  Opening night for the bulls cap give us the the level of
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  excitement one through 1010 being off the charts one is I'll
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  read about the score on the line What what's the kind of the
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  level of bulls as they start their.
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  I was falling asleep as you were asking, look, you know, I'm a
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  huge Billy Donovan guy, big fan, love them, but they just don't
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  have that good A-Team because they got a bad front office.
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  But I do think they can be competitive and Matas Bazelas is
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  an emerging star. He's going to be a star.
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  Remember I told you that that kids going to be a big time
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  player in the NBA. He's only in his second year.
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  He's 19 years of age. There's still a lot of growth
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  and development to go. I think they're over under in
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  Vegas, it's 32 1/2. I'd play the over, but you won't
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  have Kobe White for the first two weeks at least with a strain
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  cap. So we'll see what happens.
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  They start tonight against the Detroit Piston.
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  Hey, Cap, since we're on the Bulls, just real quick, sorry
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  trying to jump in, but but Jordan's going to be a part of
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  of NBC might have saw him last night with Torico.
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  When you think back at at at the end, when they were at their
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  pinnacle, when it was coming to the Last Dance era, if you will,
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  what was it like covering Jordan in particular?
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  Was he just, I mean, untouchable?
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  Could you get close to him? What was it like back in that
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  era at the end cap? Yeah, I covered a ton of it and
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  Michael was awesome. He like he stood at that locker
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  and answered every question and you know, I got to know him
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  before he became Michael Jordan. Like he was really good player
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  from day one, but he wasn't the GOAT.
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  And so I got to know him. I played golf with him and it
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  was a super cool experience. And that guy would stand there
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  and answer all these questions. And then there's some reporter
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  from, you know, Springfield, IL would walk in, he'd been maybe
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  at the other locker room or talking to another player
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  because of the crowd around Michael, and then asked the same
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  question he's already answered three times.
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  And Michael, never, ever would he make that guy or gal feel,
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  you know, less than like, I already answered that.
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  What are you doing? Nope.
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  He would stand there and answer all the questions, but you
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  better be on your guard because if you wrote something he didn't
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  like, he's going to call you on it.
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  Now you better defend your position.
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  Yeah, I'm glad I asked that question.
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  It's a cool story. One more on the Bulls.
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  We're just looking at Josh giddy and remember him obviously early
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  in his career at Oak. He's still only 23.
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  He shot the ball incredible, so much better last year with the
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  Bulls in his first year that he had previously.
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  And that was always the knock against him.
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  Is is there another tear that Josh Giddy could get to?
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  And you kind of look around, he look at this team.
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  He mentioned White being out, but does Giddy have another
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  level that he can take it to and at a minimum put this team on
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  his back and get them to the play in round?
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  Something like that? There better be another gear.
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  They just signed him to, what, five years?
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  125 yeah. So you've got him getting $25
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  million a year, so there better be another gear.
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  He's a really talented player. Really talented.
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  My question is what happens if Kobe White has a Goodyear?
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  I'm not talking about an all pro year, but a Goodyear.
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  You get in that guy 150 two $100 million deal because I'm not I'm
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  trading him. I'll pay a difference makers,
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  difference makers, that kind of money.
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  I'm not paying Kobe White that kind of money.
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  So I think there's a chance to get traded in season.
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  Let's finish up our conversation with David Kaplan's ensuring
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  Stone of Iowa sponsors. Capy joins Trenton I every
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  Wednesday to kick off our number 2, which is the one O clock
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  hour. Let's go to the Cubs cap.
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  Obviously baseball's hot stoves. It's not it's not far from hot
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  by any means, but some buzz starting to kind of trickle out.
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  There's especially in, quote, baseball cities.
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  What are you hearing, if anything, when it comes to the
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  Cubs as far as, you know, potential targets?
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  Kyle Tucker, the Yankees apparently might kick the Tigers
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  there and any Cubs buzz or too early come back.
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  Ask me this question in a couple of weeks.
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  What are you hearing, if anything?
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  Mean look, I've gotten done with believing that my favorite
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  baseball team is going to push all their chips in because you
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  had the second best record in baseball at the trade deadline
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  and you didn't you went and got Mike Soroka and Willie Castro
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  and Kittridge was an OK addition.
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  And then who was the other guy with Taylor Rogers?
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  I mean, that's that's twiddling your thumbs at the deadline.
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  I'm not expecting you to go get Mackenzie Gore or Joe Ryan when
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  they're asking you for Kate Horton and your top pitching
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  prospect and Matt Shaw. I get that.
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  You're telling me you couldn't have gotten more impactful
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  relievers. I don't get it.
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  I really they they frustrate me. That just being honest.
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  Cap what you got in the World Series and how many games for
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  the Dodgers. I'm hoping that Toronto wins in
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  four. I know that's not going to
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  happen, but yeah, I'm like the rest of the North America.
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  I want the Dodgers to lose. So I am rooting hard for the
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  Toronto Blue Jays. I rooted for the Dodgers to beat
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  the team I dislike in the Brewers.
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  Now, enough Dodger love. Get them out of there.
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  Are the Brewers starting to creep into your hatred for the
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  Cardinals or they'll never be anybody that comes close to you?
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  How you despise the Saint Louis Cardinals.
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  The Brewers closing the gap. The Brewers have absolutely
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  closed the gap when they held the L flag up at the end of the
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  series. I just thought it was a low
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  class move. Have fun.
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  I thought it would have been a cooler move if they would have
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  gotten AW flag and held that up and commandeered it like it's
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  theirs. That would have been super cool.
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  Super cool. They didn't have the smarts to
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  do that. The L flag, Good for them.
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  They haven't won since. And now, as I said to my dear
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  friend here, Ryan in our studio, they made the list.
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  They are now there with the Packers and the Saint Louis
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  cart. Good stuff, buddy Capital.
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  We'll talk to you next week. Thank you.
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  What you do for us? Appreciate it.
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  Appreciate you. Have a wonderful Wednesday,
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  everybody. Thank you, Kathy.
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  Good to hear from you. David Kaplan as he chimes in
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  from Chicago again, joins us each and every week talking
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  Chicago sports. Not real excited about the
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  Bulls? As he shouldn't be, no.
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  And he'll be watching every single one of those games.
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  Yeah, 82 * a season that is longer.
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  As is your beloved hockey, the Major League Baseball.
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  Because they crown their champion like a couple of days
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  later, right? Well, but the hockey's in week
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  two or three already. 2 Sports. That are longer than the Major
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  League Baseball season. They play 162 in baseball.
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  Yeah, it started in March. Started in March.
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  It is a lot. I I didn't want to push back a
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  cap because it's not him. It's what he believes the front
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  office. About the bears you were
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  talking. About about the tight end
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  position and if they still today, you know.
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  They're making that these, well, you said it.
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  You wouldn't be surprised. It's the Bears.
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  Yeah, because they're a dumb organization led by dumb people
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  that have done dumb things for the better part of four decades.
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  And it's going to continue. Or might win Rookie of the year.
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  It's Laudel has caught 8 passes. Still take love and why?
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  I thought they made a mistake when they did I.
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  Think it was right there with you.
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  Right. I mean, I know you, you thought
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  tight end was probably on their shopping list and you were all
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  over Warren as I think back to, you know, leading up to the
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  draft and that was. The right move?
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  Well, what I wanted was offensive line.
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  Sure, that's what I wanted. But if it was going to be a
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  tight end, there was really. There's one, there's one.
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  The guy that we saw all last the last two seasons dominate was
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  the best tight end as versatile, a skill set that would work
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  perfectly with Ben John, Ben Johnson trying to do.
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  Look what he's doing now for the Colts.
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  Colts are legit, man. Are they though?
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  I kind of just contradict myself in the same sense I looked at
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  their schedule as to whom they've beaten.
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  Is is am I falling into this trap looking at the record?
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  But but look who they've beaten. They've beaten Miami.
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  They got lucky to beat Denver. I don't care what anybody says
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  that you never see that call, right?
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  They missed the field goal that should have been lost, but they
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  didn't because of Wazirique. You're a crook.
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  They beat Tennessee, Stinky lost to the Chargers.
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  Chargers aren't good. Beat the Raiders.
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  Horrible. I give them more credit than you
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  do for the Broncos win because it wasn't about that final play.
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  They almost, they had 200 more yards of offense and the Broncos
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  did in that game. So again, taking away the final
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  play, I think the Colts were the right team in that one.
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  Just need a little bit of help to get there in the end to push
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  it over there. But outside of that, you're
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  right, there isn't. They're going to have
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  opportunities because do you see what the Colts still have
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  coming? Tennessee, Pittsburgh, Atlantic
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  Kansas City, Houston. Go go after the bye week after.
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  The bye week? OK, here's what they finished
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  their final seven games at Chiefs.
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  Tough home to Houston. Great defense.
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  At Jax Rd. Divisional game at Seat Seattle.
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  Yeah, tell you, how about that road trip?
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  Yeah, good luck. Home to the Niners.
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  They win. Home to Jax at Houston.
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  There's five more wins there. Yeah, there's five more.
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  That's eleven wins on the year. But.
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  And again, you said are they for real?
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  What does that mean? Are they real?
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  Can they win a Super Bowl? No.
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  Can they get to the AFC championship game?
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  Possibly. Need the right path.
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  Only to inevitably to be dispatched by Oh God, time for
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  another keyword. Really frustrates you.
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  It does. It's.
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  Every single year. Well, if you just go in
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  expecting it, it goes a whole lot better for you.
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  Instead of talking, Yeah, instead of talking yourself in
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  circles and nuts and and just divvy.
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  Oh, this is no, it's not the year.
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  Gift heat is still there. This little baseball nugget, I
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  don't know how how it's going to fit in has nothing to do with
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  what we're talking about. Do you know Jack Dreyer's death
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  pitched in major leagues? I did not.
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  I didn't either. Not very long.
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  Pitched 2 years in the majors. This, the strike year I think
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  was his last year. Didn't realize that, not at all.
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  Well, and it's funny too, I mean.
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  Went to you and I. Dad did OK.
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  Grew up in Ames. Yeah.
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  I. I mean talked about him.
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  I mean, I I was told for years and years that this was just
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  Soon it'll be over. It's unbelievable.
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  I guess the next athlete on there #13 you got to go all the
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  etcetera, and then #4 is Caitlin Clark.
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  Anyways, let's. And she didn't play this year.
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  Hardly. Yeah.
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  Unreal. Let's have a healthy year.
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  Yeah, I'd love to see it. Apparently in her rookie year,
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  she made $8.1 million in endorsements, etcetera,
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  etcetera. And what, 70,000?
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  What was the salary? John Bowen Camp, do you
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  remember? Is that like 70 as a rookie?
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  It is a 5 figure number. It is a 5 figure number.
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  By the way, was was the terrible WNBA commissioner on that?
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  I haven't found her yet. OK.
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  Yeah, I would. I would hope.
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  Not Asia. Wilson is on there.
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  She's influential, that's for sure.
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  Good. That's not what this list is
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  about. How?
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  Who now? What was the owner's name?
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  I wonder if she's pissed off that all of the WNBA players not
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  before remember her. Billy Jean King is still on
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  there. Good for her.
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  Yeah, anyways. Part part owner of the Dodgers,
• 23:54
  by the way. Oh gosh, Billy.
• 23:56
  Jean King, any way to get? I was, I said to Trent when we
• 23:59
  started the show, I want to find a way to not talk baseball
• 24:02
  'cause, you know, I'm a Blue Jays fan, John, I knew.
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  Yeah. And I'm not feeling really good
• 24:07
  about my squad. So I'll ask you this, OK?
• 24:10
  If you were trying to beat the Dodgers, how would you get to
• 24:18
  the get to the start if there is such a?
• 24:20
  Thing bomb threat, pray get out of the get.
• 24:24
  Get to the middle, get to the get get a starter out of the
• 24:27
  game and it's. Early, right?
• 24:29
  Yeah. Yeah, you know, but I mean once,
• 24:32
  once those guys get past 6, which is kind of shocking as bad
• 24:36
  as they were this year. It really is.
• 24:39
  And now all the sudden it's all figured out, you know?
• 24:41
  So I knew they would be fine, you know that.
• 24:45
  Yeah, if you've been saying you, you say that every single week.
• 24:47
  Enjoy that all the time. Yes.
• 24:49
  Have they announced who's going to I?
• 24:51
  I have to assume it's Blake Snell, correct?
• 24:53
  It's. It's going to be the same
• 24:55
  rotation, same as in the NFCS. Yeah, it'll be Snell, Snell,
• 24:59
  Yamamoto, Glasno, Otani and then the parade.
• 25:04
  So that that's what. So so the parade comes after
• 25:07
  game four. That's.
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  What you think exactly? Yeah.
• 25:10
  I kind of feel the same way I do.
• 25:12
  I kind of do. Was that as well as you've seen
• 25:14
  them? I mean, they just the Brewers
• 25:16
  won more games than anybody in baseball and and they got off to
• 25:20
  a good start in what one game didn't they?
• 25:21
  Didn't they take Yamamoto dupe in the first inning?
• 25:24
  Is that as well as they played all year?
• 25:27
  Yeah. Oh, God, yes.
• 25:28
  I mean, I mean, I mean, they did enough good things in the series
• 25:32
  with the Phillies to win that. And but I mean, just the the
• 25:36
  timely hitting, the the the pitching and when they had to go
• 25:40
  to the bullpen, those guys stepped up, you know, and I
• 25:43
  mean, it was that was as complete as they have been
• 25:46
  since, you know, early April when and even then they weren't,
• 25:50
  you know, then. So, yeah, I mean, it's I mean,
• 25:53
  they were. And I knew what they did to the
• 25:55
  Brewers. I just kind of had the feeling
• 25:57
  that was coming because like the Brewers had cooked that bullpen
• 26:01
  in the five games against the Cubs and and then all of a
• 26:05
  sudden, you know, they threw as many guys they didn't Game 1.
• 26:08
  And I remember thinking that game one of like, this is going
• 26:11
  to be over in 4. You know, it just felt that way.
• 26:13
  It's just because you were getting into that bullpen and
• 26:16
  then and, you know, in the long series, you can't go to the
• 26:20
  bullpen that many times and you know, and it's it worked out.
• 26:25
  So, I mean, one thing about the Dodgers I was saying is they
• 26:29
  have figured out that you do need good starting pitching in
• 26:31
  the posting. And I mean, they've gotten away
• 26:33
  with it a couple of times, but but this is, you know, this is
• 26:37
  this is probably the best, this is the best rotation I can ever
• 26:40
  remember A-Team having that they have had in, in, in the World
• 26:44
  Series, going even back into the, you know, probably back in.
• 26:46
  I mean, those, those, those teams in the 70s had really good
• 26:49
  rotations. But you know, yeah, I mean.
• 26:53
  And Sasaki was supposed to be a starter.
• 26:55
  I mean, he's in the minor leagues.
• 26:57
  What? June, July, August, most of
• 26:59
  September, he comes back and now he's an unhittable closer.
• 27:03
  Is that his role going forward? Will they try to get him back to
• 27:05
  a starter? I think they'll try to get him
• 27:08
  back to be in the start. And I mean, I think this was
• 27:11
  this was OK. Look, this is break the glass in
• 27:14
  case of emergency. And you know, I mean, because I
• 27:17
  because I don't think you're going to pay him that kind of
• 27:19
  money to be a close. All right, Although they aren't
• 27:21
  really paying him that much money, I guess so, you know, so
• 27:26
  we'll see what happens. It could be a good series, I
• 27:28
  think, and I'm ready for. It got a parade after game four.
• 27:32
  That's not a good series. That's a dismantling.
• 27:35
  Well, like I said, that's a good series in my mind.
• 27:38
  You know me, I'm greed. Yeah, you are.
• 27:40
  Yeah. Our resident Dodger fan John
• 27:43
  Bowen Camp John, let's talk about your beat.
• 27:45
  That is the Iowa Hawk guys with The Associated Press and a
• 27:49
  football team that found a way. There were poor moments against
• 27:52
  Penn State and they dug out of it, figured it out.
• 27:55
  Whatever superlative you want to use, they got it done in that
• 27:58
  football game. Is that telling to you in a game
• 28:01
  where things are not going right in for a myriad of different
• 28:03
  reasons that this football team? It kind of goes back to what
• 28:07
  Kurt said to us in Vegas. He likes his team.
• 28:10
  He doesn't know. He had a lot of questions, but
• 28:12
  he likes his team. I think we're seeing why.
• 28:14
  Did did that tell you something that went against Penn State
• 28:17
  more than just getting a 2524 win?
• 28:20
  Really. Yeah.
• 28:20
  And but I would also say the last two weeks, do you think
• 28:23
  about when they went into that First off week after that loss
• 28:27
  to Indiana in a game they should have won and you started feeling
• 28:32
  OK If they don't play well at Wisconsin, you know, and then if
• 28:35
  they lose the Pens to Penn stayed at home because, you
• 28:38
  know, you started you started having started leaving that
• 28:41
  schedule. Like, I don't know how this is
• 28:43
  all going to end up. Well, now all of a sudden you're
• 28:44
  in really good position. So I do think in this, I think
• 28:48
  they got healthy in the off week.
• 28:51
  I think they worked on some things in the off week.
• 28:53
  And I think some guys realized this is our key point in the
• 28:56
  season. We have to turn this around.
• 28:58
  And they have, I mean, so far and and so that win the other
• 29:02
  night was they found a way to win.
• 29:05
  I mean, you didn't. And you know, Kirk made some
• 29:08
  decisions that probably weren't they were very UN Kirk like at
• 29:12
  times and and it cost them a little bit and yet they still
• 29:16
  found a way to win. So I think it says a lot about
• 29:19
  this team. I think it says a lot about this
• 29:20
  coaching staff. He was just to me, it was it was
• 29:23
  a really good win that I think maybe we look back on in a few
• 29:27
  weeks and realize this was when it all turned around.
• 29:29
  Yep. As good as the game was, it
• 29:33
  maybe one of the things that stuck with me and still to this
• 29:35
  day was Halos question in the postgame.
• 29:38
  John, you were part of it and, and, and, and Kirk kind of
• 29:42
  breaking down when he was answering that question about,
• 29:44
  you know, his team bailing him out.
• 29:48
  I thought that that resonated with me.
• 29:50
  John, what was the room like? Did the could everybody tell
• 29:53
  that, you know, that that question struck, I guess struck
• 29:57
  a nerve. But when I say struck a nerve,
• 29:58
  that sounds like in a bad way. It wasn't, but it certainly, it
• 30:02
  certainly resonated with Kirk. Well, no, it did, because I
• 30:06
  think he did realize they built. That.
• 30:08
  Because I mean, you think back to the the field goal, which I
• 30:12
  questioned why they tried it the second time after the first one
• 30:15
  fell short. And then they had called the
• 30:17
  timeouts together the chance. And so I questioned why they did
• 30:21
  that. Then you go into the third
• 30:22
  quarter, they get the touchdown and instead of kicking the extra
• 30:25
  point, he goes for two, you know, which I felt was, you
• 30:28
  know, he always talks about chasing points.
• 30:30
  I felt like they were chasing points and and then you then it
• 30:34
  forced you then go for two in the fourth quarter and he and he
• 30:37
  didn't get. So I think he realized that, you
• 30:41
  know, a couple of decisions there started to snowball and
• 30:44
  his guys figured out a way to win that game and and the day
• 30:48
  out. Is there going to be a lot of
• 30:50
  question to him after that game if it got away from them?
• 30:55
  John, we go to this week, Minnesota Gopher team that
• 30:59
  played really well on Friday night, but they haven't played
• 31:02
  well on the road. You look, a week previous they
• 31:05
  struggled and probably shouldn't be Purdue the week after that.
• 31:09
  Is the point spread telling us something here?
• 31:11
  Because right away I'm like, that's way too many points.
• 31:13
  This thing's going to be ugly. Is the point spread maybe
• 31:16
  telling us something this week that the Minnesota team we saw
• 31:18
  Friday maybe wasn't the real Gopher team?
• 31:21
  Right. And I, and I think people are, I
• 31:23
  think maybe people are kind of buying into Iowa now.
• 31:26
  And it goes back to what I said that it feels like this last two
• 31:30
  weeks, it's turned around a little bit.
• 31:31
  Plus you're at home, you know, and plus you're coming off a big
• 31:34
  win and plus you don't know what, what, what Minnesota can
• 31:38
  do. So I, I do think that is
• 31:40
  reflective. I haven't seen what Clayton's
• 31:41
  line is, but it does seem like it is kind of reflective of
• 31:46
  people are kind of buying into this team now.
• 31:49
  And so it's a big game for them. You know, it's one of those
• 31:52
  games you don't want to make a mistake and lose because you
• 31:55
  just then you just threw into the trash everything you've done
• 31:58
  the last couple weeks. So I mean, it is an important
• 32:01
  game for them to kind of keep that momentum going.
• 32:04
  Indeed it is. Last thing for me, John, because
• 32:07
  I'm pretty sure you've covered every event at the Iowa Speedway
• 32:10
  since they cut the ribbon to open the place.
• 32:14
  How big of a blow not have an IndyCar there in 2026?
• 32:19
  I don't think it's it's as big as I don't think it's as big as
• 32:23
  it would have been if it would have been like the schedule from
• 32:26
  a few years ago when your NASCAR offering was just the Xfinity
• 32:30
  and Trucks here. But you've got cup coming back
• 32:33
  and and you've been able to sell out two years of Cup.
• 32:37
  It's disappointing. I love the Indy cars.
• 32:40
  I always did. I love I love the way they run
• 32:42
  things. But I think they were very
• 32:44
  unhappy at high V pulling out of its sponsorship.
• 32:48
  And I think that kind of set things in motion for them to go
• 32:52
  somewhere else. And I even get in the long run,
• 32:53
  they're going to miss it. They're going to miss coming
• 32:56
  there because they like it was it was good Oval for racing
• 33:00
  until they paved last year, paid some of that spot and it kind of
• 33:04
  messed the Indy cars up a little bit.
• 33:06
  But I think they're going to regret not being there and then
• 33:10
  maybe they come back in a couple years if they can get sponsored.
• 33:13
  But like I said, I think they were mad about Hyvee.
• 33:15
  I think they just kind of laughed.
• 33:17
  You know, OK, we got this one year on the schedule.
• 33:19
  Let's go, let's go there and then figure something out.
• 33:22
  But it's not a big blow because like I said, you got coming in
• 33:25
  and that's always a big weekend. It's a good weekend for it next
• 33:29
  year and you know, I, like I said, I'm going to miss them.
• 33:33
  But in the long run, you've got, you know, you've got the bigger
• 33:37
  series here, so. John, one final thing for me,
• 33:41
  saw you last week over at Basketball Media Day.
• 33:43
  Good to see, wasn't a surprise. I've told my piece already to
• 33:48
  coach his son there. I think it's a mistake just
• 33:52
  because of the Iowa DNA, but so there's a lot of more online
• 33:56
  chatter about him being part of the team.
• 33:58
  Do you see it as a concern or is it only a concern?
• 34:01
  If we see McCollum actually playing his son out there, then
• 34:05
  it becomes a concern. Well, how would you read into
• 34:07
  that? That's what it becomes a
• 34:08
  concern. I mean, I, if he's sitting at
• 34:11
  the end of the bench and, and he's not playing or if he gets 4
• 34:15
  or 5 minutes a game, you know, in, in a mop up role, I, it's
• 34:19
  not going to matter. I mean it, you know, I mean, if
• 34:21
  he's playing, then he must be in my mind.
• 34:24
  If he's playing, then he deserves to be out.
• 34:27
  You know, I mean, he's not going to play him unless he deserves
• 34:30
  to be out there. And so I I just don't see it
• 34:33
  being a problem because this is I think this is a really good
• 34:35
  basketball and I think it's really it's really top heavy.
• 34:39
  So I don't see him really contributing much this year.
• 34:42
  I think it's just an opportunity for him to be coached by his dad
• 34:46
  to be, you know, because I mean, he was going to go to Drake
• 34:48
  apparently before all this happened.
• 34:51
  It's not that big a deal on my mind.
• 34:53
  I mean, like I said, I think they've got a pretty deep
• 34:55
  rotation and and I they're, they're pretty set.
• 34:58
  Right now in what they're going to do John Bowen camp good
• 35:01
  stuff, John. Appreciate this.
• 35:03
  Good luck to your Dodgers. I hope I hope it's a good
• 35:06
  series. I really.
• 35:07
  Do I? I do too, but next time I talk
• 35:09
  to you will be world champ. Probably so and my and my
• 35:12
  betting account will have more money in it than it does because
• 35:14
  there you go. I jumped on board too.
• 35:16
  Thank you, pal. Good to talk to you, John.
• 35:17
  We'll talk to you in the weeks ahead.
• 35:18
  See ya. Yep, have a good one.
• 35:20
  Yep, John Bowen Camp, Associated Press, I would call it
• 35:23
  hoops.com, etcetera, etcetera. For John.
• 35:26
  He's a good dude, good guy, Been on the beat a long, long time.
• 35:30
  I'll take a time out. We'll come back.
• 35:31
  And Speaking of beats for a long time, I meant to say this early,
• 35:35
  I get this in early. I didn't know where to put Aaron
• 35:37
  Kiernan. Retiring at WHO?
• 35:39
  I saw. That well done Aaron Kiernan 30
• 35:41
  years either at KCCI where she started and then it's been at
• 35:45
  WHO for a long time and good for her and for all the right
• 35:49
  reasons too right Stay home with family and not the she wasn't
• 35:52
  pushed out by any means. She this is her own decision.
• 35:55
  Well done Aaron Kiernan, you did a good job over there.
• 35:58
  And a very popular news anchor at WHO 13?
• 36:02
  Yeah, for our statewide audience.
• 36:04
  I mean, it's always funny because when I came here,
• 36:06
  there's somebody named. So I'm like, I don't know who
• 36:07
  these people are. And statewide audience, if you
• 36:10
  didn't, Aaron did a really good job, worked on some really
• 36:12
  important stories. You think about it, she has kids
• 36:15
  basically my age, 10 and 7, minor 10 and 6.
• 36:17
  And to think that basically every night you got the 5:00
• 36:21
  news and the 6:00 news and the 10:00 news.
• 36:24
  You know what my nights look like.
• 36:26
  You know us running around and to miss that, it's got to be
• 36:29
  tough. No, without a doubt, but hanging
• 36:32
  it up. I think November.
• 36:33
  I've read in the register November 24th, sometime in
• 36:36
  November, but tip of the cap to you, Erin Kiernan.
• 36:39
  Well done. Miller and Condon back with
• 36:41
  Trent's plays of the day. It's the Iowa Sports Radio
• 36:43
  Network. I'm Miller and Condon in our
• 36:45
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• 36:51
  So no football tonight for me. Playing football?
• 36:53
  Are you not betting football? You know, I watched a way too
• 36:56
  much of that garbage last night. You did?
• 36:58
  Well, Yeah, I had to bet on it. The game that went to overtime.
• 37:01
  The law Tech, Western Kentucky. Yeah, right.
• 37:03
  There are at least two programs we kind of know.
• 37:05
  God, they're awful. It's just.
• 37:08
  And then did Western Kentucky go for two before they had two and
• 37:11
  one it that way? That's what I.
• 37:12
  Thought it was OT #1 la Tech had the ball first they score, then
• 37:18
  Western Kentucky scored one for two to win it.
• 37:20
  Let's get out of here and end this garbage and like conning,
• 37:23
  watch something else because this sucks.
• 37:25
  Got it with you got you. It was so bad and then I started
• 37:28
  going through the numbers again for the two games tonight and
• 37:30
  I'm like, it's just it's awful football.
• 37:33
  It is so bad. So instead almost bet on the
• 37:37
  awful NBA. Here we go 2 dogs tonight.
• 37:40
  Give me the Heat getting 8 1/2 on the road at Orlando.
• 37:44
  I will grab the points as well with the Blazers against our T
• 37:47
  Wolves. There's a nine out there.
• 37:48
  Would you like that? I I would, absolutely.
• 37:51
  Got 9. Oh, that's pretty good.
• 37:53
  I grabbed earlier this morning. It was 8 1/2 so already got the
• 37:56
  wrong in the number. We're off to a roaring start
• 37:57
  here in our NBA betting. I'm also going to fade the Wild
• 38:00
  tonight. How about that?
• 38:01
  We're going against Minnesota. They play early.
• 38:03
  Right, it's hate week, so I'm going against Minnesota this
• 38:06
  week. I like it.
• 38:07
  Trail Blazers and the Devils tonight, my first hockey bet of
• 38:10
  the season. Way you go.
• 38:13
  Good stuff. Well, that'll do it for us.
• 38:14
  We appreciate you being here. Stephen M Simple joins us
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  tomorrow at 1:30. Yeah, set that alarm on your
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