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25W: Bobby Gets Honest and Vulnerable About His Gambling + Steve Smith Sr. on What He Remembers from Playing in the Justin Timberlake-Janet Jackson Memorable Super Bowl Halftime Show + Beanie Wells Committing to USC Before His Mom Said 'No' · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

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  Speaker 1: Souls twenty line. Everybody all right, b welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 1: I do want to start off with, and I brought
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  Speaker 1: my stat sheet undraftkings, just full transparency with how much
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  Speaker 1: I lost last year won last year. And I can
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  Speaker 1: tell you this, I was having a pretty good year
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  Speaker 1: up until about August. The last two months though, really
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  Speaker 1: set me back.
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  Speaker 3: That's when things just started getting weird in both the
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  Speaker 3: NFL and college.
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  Speaker 1: I was very open about my struggles.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, so we appreciate vulnerable.
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  Speaker 1: I never want to be the guy that acts like
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  Speaker 1: he wins all the time, because I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I do well.
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  Speaker 1: Some years. I've had years where I've really come out
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  Speaker 1: of head. This was not one of those years. My
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  Speaker 1: total for twenty twenty five was minus twenty four thousand,
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  Speaker 1: two hundred and fifty six dollars.
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  Speaker 3: Again, twenty four thousand, oh my, oh my goodness, jeez.
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  Speaker 1: And eighteen of that thousand was in the last two
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  Speaker 1: and a half months. Oh my good I couldn't hit.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was hard, dude, and.
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  Speaker 1: I was doubling up to catch up. And I was
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  Speaker 1: also doing a lot. I wasn't chasing, but I was
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  Speaker 1: doing a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's called no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't chasing. Immediately, I wouldn't chase as my emotions
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  Speaker 1: were high. The next week I would go not checked
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  Speaker 1: my stat sheet. Let me try to climb back in
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  Speaker 1: this thing. Is that that's a version of chasing. Is
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  Speaker 1: I don't like to chase, but I don't feel like
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  Speaker 1: that's chasing.
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  Speaker 5: No, I don't chasing is like the night of a
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  Speaker 5: big loss, like I need to make it back the
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  Speaker 5: coach chase.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and more deposits, more deposits were chasing.
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  Speaker 1: I did a lot of bets though this year that
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  Speaker 1: were big bets, big futures that I did not hit.
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  Speaker 3: But those are all done.
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  Speaker 1: I have one left, I have the forty nine ers
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  Speaker 1: I put a thousand bucks on.
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  Speaker 5: I can make it all back, right, Oh yeah it
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  Speaker 5: was wasn't that paid like twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But like I bet a future and it didn't
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  Speaker 1: count as a loss until it hit. I bet at
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  Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, preseason, two thousand dollars on
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  Speaker 1: the Broncos and the Bucks to both make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that was easy money about week seven. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I lost twenty four thousand dollars in twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: and most of it was in the last two months
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  Speaker 1: of the year, so there you have it. Don't say
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  Speaker 1: I'm not being honest with you guys.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. I had to so you sent a bet.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know a couple of weeks ago, and I
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  Speaker 3: showed my kids and like, look at Bobby hit and
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  Speaker 3: they were like, whoa, that's crazy. And then I was like,
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  Speaker 3: the guy's relaxed. He loses a lot too, all right,
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  Speaker 3: just so you know, I don't want them to growing up.
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  Speaker 1: It was a good one though. I had like a
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  Speaker 1: seven game parlay for oh yeah, twenty four hundred bucks.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah hit all that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did though, and that was fun. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's been a rough year.
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  Speaker 3: It has been tough. Yeah, a lot. I've had to
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  Speaker 3: slow down a little bit. Yeah, yeah, boy, especially since
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  Speaker 3: our scary and.
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  Speaker 1: It said same under his bread. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you heard him.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, we haven't heard from Brandon about gamaling in
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  Speaker 5: like three months.
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  Speaker 3: I remember a lot of Brandon stories of dude, I
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  Speaker 3: hit five.
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  Speaker 1: Yoh.
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  Speaker 6: But I have to say, you guys were one hundred
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  Speaker 6: percent correct. I don't know if you remember this, but
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  Speaker 6: I was like, oh, yeah, I'll get into it. And
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  Speaker 6: I started winning like just that first time, and you're
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  Speaker 6: like dude, you don't understand, like you're you're it's.
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  Speaker 1: Not gonna last. It's like, I think it's pretty good.
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  Speaker 6: Like four or five weeks in, I was like, uh,
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  Speaker 6: I was having Oh my god, dude, Bobby, you're not kidding,
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  Speaker 6: Like this has been just the worst past like two months.
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  Speaker 3: Losing money. But how much fun has it been?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 1: You have to do it for entertainment, yes, yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: I was entertaining the crap out of minus twenty four
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars. That sounds like a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 3: Like what else?
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  Speaker 2: So much fun?
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  Speaker 1: Man, it is awesome.
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  Speaker 3: It was fun.
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  Speaker 1: How much fun it was? So yeah, don't do it
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  Speaker 1: unless you have it to lose. It's entertainment only.
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  Speaker 3: But my wife, my wife thinks I have a problem
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  Speaker 3: because and it's not a problem. I don't have a problem. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: And I know I.
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  Speaker 1: Know what someone without a problem says.
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  Speaker 3: I don't have a problem.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, quite whenever. I want no problem here. But like, friends, no,
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  Speaker 1: what's that? That's what you call the races?
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  Speaker 4: Got it?
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  Speaker 1: Get it mixed up?
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  Speaker 3: You guys had done that bet you know, and like, uh,
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  Speaker 3: what was it was? Arkansas basketball parlayed.
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  Speaker 1: With San Francisco something.
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  Speaker 3: Something okay, And I was at a basketball game and
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  Speaker 3: I saw Kevin's text come in. Never saw your text
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  Speaker 3: come in until Kevin's came in, and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I want to jump in on this. And I was
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  Speaker 3: in a gym where there was no service during the
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  Speaker 3: basketball game. I'm going up to the top of the
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  Speaker 3: bleachers by putting my phone.
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  Speaker 1: Up high entertainment with Ius, hang with your buddies.
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  Speaker 3: And my wife goes, you have a problem, I'm just
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  Speaker 3: to hang out with the boys. I said, no, no, I'm
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  Speaker 3: just trying to place a bet so we can all
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  Speaker 3: be part of it. That's it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, those ones are fun, though, like when all three
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  Speaker 5: of us get in on one and then you're you're.
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  Speaker 1: Like hanging out, but you're not exactly And you know
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  Speaker 1: what that's worth to me, twenty four thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 3: That's crazy crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I was a little surprised at it. Yeah, because I
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  Speaker 1: don't look while playing. I'll look at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the month and just go month. I think the statute
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  Speaker 1: is great too, because it really lets you know what
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  Speaker 1: you're doing and you're losing too much. Stop. I looked
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  Speaker 1: into the year, end of the year, and it was like,
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  Speaker 1: oh man, my last cup once were real bad on me,
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  Speaker 1: but it was a lot of those futures. I just
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  Speaker 1: never hit those futures never.
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  Speaker 3: But see, to me, the futures are fun because it
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  Speaker 3: lasts a long time. Wait, a lot of entertainment there,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I don't. I couldn't find it back in
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  Speaker 3: my status sheet. But I looked like in December and November,
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  Speaker 3: and I had placed five thousand bets last.
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  Speaker 1: Year nicol at a time.
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  Speaker 3: Five thousand bets.
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  Speaker 4: That's a lot. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, so we'll start with little honesty there to get
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  Speaker 1: it started. I do have the richest athletic departments in
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  Speaker 1: college sports. Who has not seen the list?
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  Speaker 3: I have not seen the list?
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  Speaker 4: You haven't.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what do you think the richest athletic department is
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  Speaker 1: in all college sports? Texas, Texas, Vanderbilt, not endowment for
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  Speaker 1: that's just rich to That'd be probably Harvard too, but
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  Speaker 1: athletic departments. So I'll let you come back on that one.
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  Speaker 1: You can also go with their answer.
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  Speaker 3: I'll go to Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, it is Texas, Texas at number one.
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  Speaker 3: We've seen it.
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  Speaker 1: It is Texas. Oh you saw it?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, No, not the list, and we saw Texas. It
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  Speaker 3: was crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we was seeing other rich schools and then
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  Speaker 1: you see Texas.
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  Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know how they lose a single game at anything.
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  Speaker 1: That's the thing. Yeah, they shouldn't, they shouldn't.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: On the one, Yeah, well Oregon or you guys said
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  Speaker 5: it's better than even Oregon.
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  Speaker 1: It is in Oregon, And that was the one that
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  Speaker 1: was like wow, that they have so much money. Then
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  Speaker 1: you go to Texas and you're like, oh, this is money,
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  Speaker 1: this is money. Number two. By the way, Oregon does
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  Speaker 1: not make the top fifteen, that doesn't mean that their
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  Speaker 1: football doesn't have more.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because they could.
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  Speaker 1: Take and put a ton in football, which they do.
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  Speaker 1: I got to guess this is college athletic departments.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead, I'm going to go to Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 5: That's too good one. I got another guest, what's your guess,
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  Speaker 5: Ohio State.
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  Speaker 6: I was gonna say, Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State at two. Oh, come home, Notre Dame at
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  Speaker 1: number six. So we'll do, we'll go to We'll go
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  Speaker 1: to like ten. You guys have been on number three, Florida, Michigan.
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  Speaker 3: Who that's a good one, youuys Michigan.
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  Speaker 1: I know Texas A and m oh dang, they do
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  Speaker 1: a lot of money in Texasyeah Florida at fourteen.
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  Speaker 3: I thought they gave all that money to.
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  Speaker 1: Was that coach that left Jo's got all their money.
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  Speaker 3: He took all that money.
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  Speaker 1: They had to hawk all their weights.
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  Speaker 3: That's all the ways guys.
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  Speaker 1: Georgia at for Michigan at five. Okay, so three of
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  Speaker 1: the top four sec Michigan at five, Notre Dame at six,
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  Speaker 1: and they have Notre Dame listed as acc because they
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  Speaker 1: are except for football. Tennessee at seven, South Southern California
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  Speaker 1: at eight, Alabama at nine, Nebraska ten, Penn State at eleven,
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  Speaker 1: LSU at twelve, Oklahoma at thirteen, Florida at fourteen, at
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  Speaker 1: Kentucky at fifteen, and stops at fifteen.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Kentucky's up there, huh, that's interesting, I guess that much.
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  Speaker 1: And then a bad loss last night. Are they keep losing?
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  Speaker 3: They're they're really bad that they're not ranked anymore.
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  Speaker 1: They spent eight to no. They spent a ton of
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  Speaker 1: money on a roster, which a lot of teams do.
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  Speaker 1: I think they spent more than average because that's a
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  Speaker 1: big part of Kentucky Sports. Uh, they're they're playing terrible.
• 9:19
  Speaker 1: I've reposted some of Matt Jones's clips of him being like,
• 9:21
  Speaker 1: thank you for taking John Calipart from us. We love it,
• 9:24
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I reposted one the other day.
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  Speaker 3: I said, no, no, no, thank you, yes nice Scott on
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  Speaker 3: the bottom of my heart.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, no, thank you. So yeah, that's what's up.
• 9:35
  Speaker 1: We have a big show because we have two really
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  Speaker 1: cool interviews that we're gonna do. We can go first
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  Speaker 1: to Steve Smith, which I think we'll do. Now here's
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  Speaker 1: our talk with former NFL wide receiver Steve Smith. He
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: was drafted third round two thousand and one and he's
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  Speaker 1: just been that dude. Carolina's all time leader in receiving yards, touchdowns,
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  Speaker 1: all purpose yards. He was inducted into the Panthers Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Fame, which is the Hall of Honor, in twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 1: Now he's doing a lot of work with the NFL,
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  Speaker 1: doing a lot of media. You can follow him at
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: Steve Smith's Senior eighty and here he is Steve Smith.
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  Speaker 1: Steve really appreciates the time, man, big fan.
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  Speaker 2: Well appreciate it. How you guys doing today?
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  Speaker 1: Doing pretty good? You know, I was just looking at
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  Speaker 1: Mike me Daniel, you know, just got fired a lot
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  Speaker 1: of coaches. It feels like in college football we just
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  Speaker 1: had this too, whereas more than I think I've ever seen,
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: I feel like now in the NFL we're seeing this
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  Speaker 1: a bit. I guess I would like to talk first,
• 10:21
  Speaker 1: because it's all just so new with John Harball leaving
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: with the Ravens after eighteen years, Like, what are your
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: thoughts on that situation?
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  Speaker 2: Eighteen years is a very long time. I come in
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: a little bit called in between, just because of being
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: a former raven experiencing John Harball personally, being in that
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: city and in that organization, and then a little bit
• 10:47
  Speaker 2: of understanding as an analyst, where when you hear reports
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: or you hear things, not everything is true. However, enough
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  Speaker 2: discussion really kind of brings you to the conclusion. Anywhere
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: you are for eighteen years, there's a little bit, I
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: don't want to say complacency, but your message gets stale.
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  Speaker 2: And that's just kind of part of business, every organization,
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: every individual. Where you have a long standing relationship or
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: tenure somewhere, there are gonna be people sad to see
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: you go, and they're gonna be people unfortunately happy to
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: see you go, and then there's gonna be people in
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: the middle like myself, where I'm not really sure if
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: it's a good thing or bad thing, because you got
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: to start to see what the next steps are, and
• 11:35
  Speaker 2: over time you'll say, hey, that was a good move
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: or it wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: If you were an organization and you were looking for
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: a coach, or let's say you had a coach kind
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: of right on the fence and you didn't know, would
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  Speaker 1: you bring Harball in to be your guy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you would bring him in because you know he's
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: going to manage every aspect of it. You know, his
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: background is special teams, so he's not an offensive play caller,
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: he's not a defensive play caller. So he allows his
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: coaches to really do their job and he just kind
• 12:04
  Speaker 2: of oversees and manages the aspect of the team. So
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  Speaker 2: I think it's good. I think John Hall Harpball would
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: be in a would be good for a place that
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: has an established quarterback, that has some things already established,
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: because he is sixty two years old, and you know,
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: for him to start all over and be with a
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: team that's going to rebuild and restructure and all that stuff.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to take a little bit of time. Right,
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: I'm here in Carolina, so you've seen that it's taken
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: a long time. They're in the playoffs for the first
• 12:33
  Speaker 2: time in ten years. So to say that is how
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: long it's going to take to build up. I don't
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: think John Harball is going to put himself at his
• 12:42
  Speaker 2: age and the experience he's had that he kind of
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: want to go through that. Again.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: We live in Nashville and the Titans are here. I'm
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: not a Titans fan. It's hard to be a fan
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: of a team that isn't good and you didn't grow
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: up around, right, so like they haven't been good?
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  Speaker 2: What is your team there?
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: I'm from Arkansas.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just sitting here. I'm just sitting here about to
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  Speaker 2: judge you.
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  Speaker 1: So no, I'm this is absolute truth. I'm not pandering
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  Speaker 1: to you at all. But so I'm from Arkansas. We
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: did not have an NFL team, So I'm a diehard
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  Speaker 1: Razorback fan. And because I everybody in Arkansas was a
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: Cowboys fan, So I refuse to be a Cowboys fan.
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  Speaker 1: Because Jerry Jones from Arkansas. So I this year, before
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: the season started, I said I'm gonna pick a team,
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: a team that does not and I'm gonna be a
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: super fan a team that does not have an easy culture,
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: like an absolute winning culture. And I picked the Panthers,
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: and I've been a diehard fan of the Panther. Why
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  Speaker 1: did you do the face?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's a compliment. Well, because one
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  Speaker 2: I said, I was gonna judge you. You said Arkansas
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  Speaker 2: and use football. I'm not sure where those two.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, no, they haven't a while. Yeah they haven't. No,
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  Speaker 1: while it's a great point. Yeah, Okay, I did pick
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  Speaker 1: the Panthers, and I got I gotta keep picking with Jersey.
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  Speaker 2: Well thanks, well, thanks for jumping on the bandwagon. We're
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  Speaker 2: little crowded though.
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  Speaker 1: No, there was no wagon when I got on. It
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: was empty. It was before the season started. So I
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: have been a die hard year one Panthers fan and
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: so it's been real fun. And we went last year.
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  Speaker 1: I went last year to camp and you know, talk
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  Speaker 1: with Bryce Young and it was a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 1: We had a good time, and so I've been root
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: for the pain.
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  Speaker 2: When'd you come to camp? I was, I was there
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  Speaker 2: a few times. I never saw you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I was that the normal, you know,
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  Speaker 1: goofy dude with the big head. You didn't see me
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  Speaker 1: walking around. It was at the college I think was
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: it Wafford? It was at Wafford last year? Yeah, we went,
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: we went to Watford.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: No, was it last year? Was not at Watford last year?
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: It was in not this year, last year, years ago,
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: two years ago. Because I was going to say, they
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: haven't been at Watford for two years.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Now, so two years ago.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: I'm just trying to I'm just trying to keep up
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: with the story.
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, me too. Actually, wait, did you did
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: you have camp at Wofford and that didn't look that
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: didn't look comfortable? Did you have that when you were
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: with Panthers?
• 14:57
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I spent the whole that'spent a full year
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: of my life in Spartanburg, South Carolina.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: That did not seem comfortable for players that had a
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: comfortable life at home.
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's what training camp is for though, right.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Training camp is not you going to the risk call
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: to uh you got a bungalow over the over the water.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: That's not the purpose of camp. Camp is to make
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: you uncomfortable, to strip you away from all the luxuries
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: and to getting down to the nitty gritty can you
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: and will you make this team and be able to focus?
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: So you're staying at a college when you live in
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: a house in dorms, So no, it's not very comfortable,
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: but you can do some things to make it comfortable.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: I had I had a luxury like blow up matchres
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: with a low top, and I had that for years
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: because you can rent a bed or so I bought
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: a luxury from I think it was front Gate or
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: sharper Image back in the day, and so I care
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: kept it for about seven years. So I got my
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: money's worth when it was like three hundred dollars a
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: day to rent a good mattress down there. So I
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: just bought bought myself. You know, I'm I'm very as
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: my kids were saying, I'm very frugal. So really that's
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: my thumb process. Oh yeah, I'm a I'm a. I
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: pick up pennies and quarters off the strip, off the street. Dang,
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: put it in my pocket. When I get a coin
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: thing and a coin collect Then after six months I
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: cash it in going to the coin star full five
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars cash. Dang right there?
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Did you save a lot of money while you were playing.
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, I sure did, because.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: I feel like like I I didn't grow up with
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: any money at all. And at first when I made money,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: I bought all the stuff that I didn't that I
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: didn't have as a kid. And then I got Then
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I got right.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I screwed it up my first My
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: first check was blew it. However, you know, I learned
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: a little bit after that, and so I took care
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: of my money and I'm pretty comfortable.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: You think that Panthers can beat the Rams.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: This is a recorded line. I think, yes, okays have
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: to do then they have beat them before, But what
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: do they have to do so well, it's really tough
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: because it's hard to be at a really good team twice,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: and it's even harder to beat a team where the
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: team before they sustain some injuries, just like the Carolina Panthers.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: But they're getting some players back and we aren't. So
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be tough but eventually, But the biggest things
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: is don't leave the field without scoring points. Because you know,
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford is in company, Sean McVay is not gonna
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: have the same game plan. And biggest part is third down.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: The Carolina Panthers are not great in the low thirties
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: in third down conversion, So keeping themselves on the field
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: continuously going through drives and not leaving points on the board,
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I think they give themselves a chance. If they don't
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: do those things, it's gonna be very difficult to repeat
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: exactly what they did last season and ultimately the playoffs.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Everything you've done in a regular season, that's great, That
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: doesn't you get no brownie points and they don't give
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: you a four second head start because of what you
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: did in a regular season is now zero zero and
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: everyone has a clean slate. However, you know, we all
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: know the records and statistics, and it's gonna be a
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: tough game. But I'm excited to watch it and excited
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: to talk about it after.
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Is it possible to be too hyped up for a
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: playoff game as a player.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Yes, but no, you want to be hyped up, you
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: want to have nerves where it can get you is
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: probably there's first first few series. You're so hyped up,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: you have so much ad adrenaline running through you that
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: you get super winded super quick because you're going one
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: hundred miles per hour. Where you probably should have been
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: going seventy five miles per hour.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: How do you feel about a team getting a bye,
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: let's say it's not about injuries. Do you like the
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: week off? And would you take week eighteen off if
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: you were getting a bye last two weeks off?
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Then yeah, it just depends on your team. I have
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: had the buye. That's been a beneficial for me at
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: the time because I had an injury, so yes, but
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: I also felt the rust. It took me a few
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: series to get back. In a mix of things, I
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: prefer to play the wild card weekend, so you just
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: kind of have a flow and in a field and
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: you can start to get in rhythm and hopefully you
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: get in a rhythm and going all the way to
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: the super Bowl, so be able to start stop and
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: then reignite after watching another team run around and make
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: their mistakes and get the rust off. I think it varies.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: It varies for both for different teams, and it really
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: counts and people utilize it based on the outcome.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Josh Allen in the playoffs and there's not a Lamar,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: there's not a Patrick Mahomes, and there hasn't been a
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Joe Burrow for a couple of years, but he's one
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: of the elite guys over in the AFC. Is this
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: the year that he's got to do it?
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are saying that I'm not.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's fair to say he has to
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: do it because he's also playing the Jacksonville Jaguars team,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: who is pretty stout right. Offensively, they're doing what they're doing,
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: but defensively, they're holding a lot of running backs, really
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: good running backs, and James Conner is one of those
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: guys below seventy five yards per game, Jonathan Taylor, who's almost,
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: I believe, the league leader and running for the running
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: backs and yards, and they held him to like seventy
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: five or seventy four yards. Order back of receivers they're
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: holding under seventy five yards per game. So it's gonna
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: be tough to say that Josh Allen needs to do
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: it where his supporting cast actually needs to do a
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: little bit more and take some weight off at his
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: back because he's been carrying that team for a very
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: long time.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I want to talk about return yards because you have
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of them, but when you're returning, are you
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: approaching that different than if you're catching a ball, meaning
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: the players are running at you, all of them. Do
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: you have to have like a supreme peripheral vision when
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: returning a ball.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: That's a great question.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Thanks.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Neither one is different, and here's why. I would say,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: when you're running a ball, when you're running a route,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: jump up and catch it. What's the outcome if you
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: drop or pat you drop or catch the football.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: If you drop it, I don't know, you still might
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: get hit.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. If you catch it, yeah.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I mean if you're drop it, you still might get
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: hit too, if it's close.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But if you catch it, it's a guarantee you're
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: going to get hit. Yep. Hum return same thing. The
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: difference is they have a head start and you just
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: get to watch them. That's it. It's a mind trick.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: The outcome still happens only if the ball that's thrown
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: to you in the route is uncatchable or if you
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: fair catch. Other than that, you're gonna get everything you're
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: you hope you don't get when catching a punt or
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: catching a route with the ball in your hands, Big
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: guys trying to knock the snot out of you.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Did you hate fair catching?
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Oh? Yes? I sure did. I was a stat whore.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, could you tell on a punt when they're running
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: down could you see the lane before the ball even
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: got to you.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's where the film study comes. Where the ball
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: is going. So for me, is catching a football, I'm looking,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm looking up. As I'm looking up, I'm also
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: because look, you're on the team with fifty three guys,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: forty six that dress, You eat breakfast with them, you're
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: around them. Since you know those dorm rooms two years ago.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Though those dorm rooms where you're standing staying next to
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: each other, you're learning each other. You also know who
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: who has a tougher matchup. So if my gunners singled
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: or doubled single on the right side, doubled on the
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: left side, I traditionally will go, Okay, I need to
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: be paying attention to my single side. But if the
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: player the gunner is extremely good and that's why they're
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: doubling them, I still have to pay attention to him,
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: and then you're gonna have an outlier where someone gets
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: out of whack and maybe loses a little bit leverage.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: So I'm constantly looking at the ball, at the flight
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: of the ball and while the flight is going, I'm
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: looking at the football as it spins. Is the nose
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: up which means it will continue to keep going? Or
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: is the nose starting to go down which means is
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: gonna fall? Is about to fall at that depth that
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: we know that the punter is usually hitting. And then
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: is it a left to right? Is it a right
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: footed punter, left foot of punter, right foot of punters spinning,
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: it's gonna go to the right, But when it's left,
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: it actually falls and it goes to your left. Most
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: punters are right foot it, so that throws it off,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: and it's a different spin, so it hits your hands
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: a little bit different. So it's a lot of calculated, detailedness.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: That that's why the couch folks that watch football think
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: they could just get off the couch after a bear
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: and some wings and go do it.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: It's not that easy. Were you a guy that when
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: you juke somebody out, you went whoop, yep, gotcha? Would
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: you ever talk while doing while making plays?
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: I yes, I would. I definitely would would say some things.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I said more things inside of my head than out loud,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: But then out loud would be after I make the play.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: But it was more psychological thing and just you know,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: going through my keys and going through all of those
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: things I need to do. So on a pump return,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: I had to make sure that was eleven guys on
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: the field, you know, so just ten guys ahead of me,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: because I would be the eleventh. It took me a
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: while to figure that out because when I first did it,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: I almost called time out because we were short, and
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: they said they stupid. You need to count yourself. So
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: that's the requirement of the pump returner. And then just
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: kind of seeing everything. Is the return right is it left?
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Am I on a ten yard line? If I go
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: more than a step or two and a half steps,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: that means I'm beyond the eight yard eight yards, which
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: means it is going to go onto the ball is
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: gonna go on the end zone. So I have to
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: be cautious of that. And I got to look up
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: by the distract the runners who are trying to down
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: it within the before it goes in the goal line
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: the end zone, and so now have to trick them.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of steps that goes into it.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: That is less about what you're saying out side to
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: people and it's more of how quickly can you go
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: through your checks list before the play goes on and
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: be able to have the right judgment call on the
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: pump return or catching the football.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: What quarterback did you have the best chemistry with? Uh?
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: The one I mean the one I was with the
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: longest I was with Jake DeLoone, I think probably about
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: eight years. We grew up together, we made the playoffs together,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: we went to the Super Bowl together, NC Championships together.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: So athletically though, best quarterback obviously is Cam Newton, but
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: you know, athletically gifty and spending time and growing into
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: this game with man, it's hard to just exit. It's
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: hard to just kind of cross out eight years of
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: experience to say, hey, man, I just had a more
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: athletic quarterback for three years. I don't think that's necessarily fair.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Who's the team to be in the AFC? Man?
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I would? I want to say Jacksonville. I'm interested in
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: seeing how the Patriots are gonna do. I wouldn't be
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: shocked to the Chargers win and then but the Texans.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: The Texans are one of those teams I'm really trying
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: to figure out who are they? Because defensively their top
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: notch offensively, they've had a lot of hiccups emotional roller coasters,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: so I would have to go with I'm kind of
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: favoring the Jags or the Patriots.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you the same thing about the NFC,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: because again, both sides they're really I don't feel like
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: there's a team that's head and shoulders above everybody else.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: But from what you've seen, who's the team on the
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: NFC side?
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Surprisingly, I think the Bears can shock some people. The
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Packers were doing really good until Michael Parser's went down,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: and they haven't been able to generate a lot of
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: sacks so that their defense has changed dramatically. The Rams,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: let's see how they play the Panthers, who they played down.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Is this another game where Matthew Stafford has two touchdowns
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: and then they also give up fumble so it gives
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: more opportunity to the Carolina Panthers. And I'm intrigued to
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: see which Eagles offensively shows up, how Brock Perdy does
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: against the top tier defense like the Philadelphia Eagles. So
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm leaning towards I can see in the NFC Championship,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: I can say the Bears and rams.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: You gave me like eight teams there basically said every team.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: You covered all bases there.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Now annalists and here, but here's why. Here, here's the
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: real truth. The real truth is if I don't mention
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: all these teams, the teams that I don't mention that
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: are playing, when I go to that game or I'm
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: on the sideline reporting, they will say something to me, oh,
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: I saw you picked U when Philly in Arizona, when
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Philly was playing Kansas City Chiefs. I have picked on
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: like four different a couple of different on I would say, oh,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: I got the Eagles, then that when I got I
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: got the Chiefs, and I'm so I'm doing some things
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: at the Super Bowl of the game, Patrick Strength, coach
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: and equipment manager. So you picked the Eagles, I said,
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: come on, bro, I went on another show and I
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: picked the Chiefs. He said, didn't hear that one. So
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: from now on, I'm I'm gonna make sure I hear
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: everything every team so I can make sure I'm good
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: because I still got to do my job. Man, I can't.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: I can't have one team black balling because I didn't
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: pick them.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Whenever you're going into the Super Bowl, and there's that
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: two week break. Does that feel like an eternity after
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: you've been playing every week?
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: It is, It feels like an internity. But it also
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: allows you to get everything ready. There's a lot of
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: planning that that's involved, and you still have to practice.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: So you have practice to get prepared for the Super Bowl,
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: biggest our, biggest event of the year. And yeah, you
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: got family members chomping at the bit of trying to
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: how they're going to figure out to get those tickets.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: And when you go to Super Bowl, each player is
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: allowed a lot of so many tickets that you're paying for,
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: not for free, you're paying for So if you think
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: of you, I think ten tickets, or you get the
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: purchase ten tickets, well, you know it's the biggest game
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: and are and football is crazy popular. Well ten tickets
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: is is not enough tickets, so you try. So there's
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: a lot of botering and willing and dealing, dealing going
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: on amongst players on the teams that are going to see, hey,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: are you going to use all of ten of your tickets?
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: You know how much you're gonna sell them to you?
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: And then you got a guy who starts to realize
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: that he got a hot commodity, and so he starts
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: to uh the price that he said for face value.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Now he maybe tries to get extra hundred bucks. So
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: it becomes a lot of willing and dealing going.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: On with the halftime show making a longer halftime. Did
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: you feel that during the Super Bowl?
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: Uh? No, you don't go by so fast. Don't feel
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: any in that. It seems short.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Do you remember who played your halftime show when you
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: guys play the Broncos.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: I do, because it was some teen years ago, because
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: it was the infamous justin Timberlay.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Oh that was the halftime show?
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Then?
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, did you now do you even hear about that
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: during the second half at all?
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: No, we didn't unless you have you're listening to the broadcast. No, man,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: and I'm on the field, so I don't. I don't
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: have broadcasting ears to listen.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I didn't know if he did, and I don't know
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: if they.
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: That's a great question though.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: That was crazy for that was.
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Such a cultural moment. I didn't know if maybe word
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: got back like Janet Jackson's nipple was just shown at halftime?
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: No? Never, Uh never went across our place. Sheet were
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: sitting in the Nipple were sitting there in the huddle
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: and they're going, hey, did you know what happened at halftime?
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: That that never happened.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: But a little bit though, Let's say in a game,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: if something like you see somebody in the stands, like
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: you see Samuel L. Jackson's here, Adam Sandler's here, like
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: you semover and row three, you guys talk about that
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: in the huddle, right, we may talk.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: About a huddle.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: If you run out of bounds, it's really hard to
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: see and you kind of see the celebrities before the game,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: touring the game, you're so locked in you're trying not
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: to pay attention to it. So when someone does say something,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: it's a big deal in the huddle.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Talk about your podcast for a second. What are you
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: guys talking about on cut to It?
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Oh Man? So cut to It? I switched the name
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: from cut to It at the eighty nine just recently.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: But we just talked about football, everything that's going on
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: currently right now, talking about the Carolina Panthers and then
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: John Hardball getting fired. That we did that one on
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Tuesday night just because the news came Tuesday morning, because
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: the news came so early, and it was surprising. Then obviously,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: like today with Mike McDaniels, what does that look like?
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: So we talk about everything about football, and then right now,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: when the playoffs starting, the Super Bowl combine, I'll start
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: getting in the nitty gritty of a valuating these wide
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: receivers that are coming out. It's a ton of wire receivers,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: a ton of guys. So I do a little breakdown
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: on them, what I like, what I think they need
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: to work on. And that's been pretty successful and I enjoyed.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I love watching film still, so it kind of gives
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  Speaker 2: me a little niche and I'm kind of a film nerd,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: so it lets me kind of geek out and I enjoy.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: So it's called eighty nine. Now you change your name?
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Yep, the eighty nine show.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, the eighty nine show. That's much easier than
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: just typing in eighty nine.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah either, No, it's the number eighty nine. So we
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: gotta you know, we got you gotta kiss. Keep it simple, Steve. Yeah,
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: So eight eighty nine on YouTube, all right, and it's
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: and it's it's yellow and it has the number eight nine.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Like the number eighty nine. Absolutely, yeah, number le's make
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• 33:45
  Speaker 3: Eighty nine.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah you were there.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Hey, look, I appreciate the time we got. We mentioned
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: every team. You're covered your every every you can't go
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: on a sideline without them being like Steve Smith, you
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: said our team. We appreciate that you can follow Steve
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  Speaker 1: at Steve Smith Senior eighty nine like his show eighty
• 33:59
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• 34:02
  Speaker 1: the time. I am big fan, so thank you very
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: much for spending some time.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Alright, have me on again.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: All right, we will. All right, let's build the college
• 34:10
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• 34:17
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• 34:21
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• 34:23
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• 34:25
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• 34:28
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• 34:30
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• 34:34
  Speaker 1: don't even root for the SEC because it's the SEC
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: like that doesn't really happen as much as it used to.
• 34:39
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• 34:41
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• 34:44
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• 34:47
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• 34:51
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• 34:54
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• 34:56
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• 34:58
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• 35:02
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• 35:05
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• 35:08
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• 35:12
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• 35:16
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• 35:20
  Speaker 3: Like when all the commentators pick the same team, it's
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: not good.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Like when you say the Cowboys are for sure gonna win,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: they almost always lose.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: It's not always.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Oregon plus three and a half. Okay,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I'm hedging my bet there.
• 35:38
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• 35:39
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• 35:40
  Speaker 1: No, because I don't have a heart in this. I
• 35:42
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• 35:46
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• 36:06
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• 36:08
  Speaker 5: Really, Yeah, so does Oregon.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, screw it. We're going overs on both Okay and
• 36:13
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  Speaker 1: Okay, NFL wise Saturday Night Rams at Panthers, No spread
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Rams at Panthers, no heart, Just who's gonna win?
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: No spread Rams are gonna win that? Okay, no brainer.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: Packers at Bears. What's surprising to me is that the
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Packers are a favorite on the road. The Bears are healthy,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: the Packers obviously aren't. Yeah, I agree, their best player
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: isn't playing. Michael Parson.
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the Bears win.
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: Same Bears.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Let's go, baby, What what do they know? The Packers
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: have been there before, at least played in the playoffs,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: but played.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: Like a month.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: But that's what I'm thinking, Like, do they know that?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: But their favorite on the road? They don't trust Caleb
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: uh Sunday Chargers that I'm gonna take the Packers?
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: Oh really?
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: That's yeah. I figure, look at you three and I'm
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: like idiot, and I lost twenty four thousand dollars. Sunday
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Chargers at Patriots.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Let's go Patriots, diehard?
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, we need them. I'll go Patriots, Bills and Jags.
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: I'm going Bills. I'm going at Josh Allen. Yeah, same,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: that's it.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: I feel like the Bills need this one. I feel
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: like this is the Bill's year.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: So yes, like Cowboys.
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: No, I just feel like the Bills for the first
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: time don't have the Chiefs in the way, you know,
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: so they can do it this time.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: Forty nine Ers at Eagles. I'm surprised at Eagles. And again, no,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: we're not talking spread, so I'm surprised the Eagles are
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: four and a half point favorite. I get it. The
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: forty nine ers have lost their stars on defense, but
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: they've been gone for a while for defense does suck?
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Forty nine ers of the Eagles. I'm going forty nine
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Ers Yeah, same, Yeah, I could also have a massive
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: future on them. Yeah, so we had so probably my
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: heart talking there. Oh that's what you meant by heart earlier.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: The heart?
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, forty nine ers really yeah.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Brandon say forty Eddie, please pick the Eagles.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: This hurts me, but I don't have to pick one guy,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: got perfect.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: Let's go.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: We're all good then, Texas and Steelers on Monday Night.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, Houston Texans.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: You gotta go Texans.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I'm going with the Steelers. I feel like that's such
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: a slam dunk Texans win, but I think I think
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: the Steelers can do it. Is it is in Pittsburgh.
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: The Steelers got so lucky to be there.
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: They're so hard to watch.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: They won the games they needed to win.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: I know, it's just they wouldn't have been ugly division.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what it was. Same thing with the Panthers.
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: That's the ugliest division.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: Ugly kick is what it was.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that sucked. Now let's get over to former Ohio
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: State and NFL running back Beanie Wells. Beanie played for
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Ohio State from six to eight. Had sixteen thousand yards rushing.
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: That's that's right, right. The comment was putting the wrong
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: place on this, but it's sixteen thousand yards rushing, right,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: that's got to be it is that it fifteen There's
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: no way that's all. There's no way that's the type
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: on me. Okay, one million, six hundred thousand yards rush.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: That's better.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got it. Now, how many yards Beanie Wells
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: have leave this in? By the way, of course, fifteen touchdowns?
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Maybe he just had sixteen sixteen hundred yards and fifteen
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: touchdowns and twenty two thousand and seven. Yeah, that's what
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: Sixteen hundred yards.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Screw it. He had sixteen thousand rushing yards and I
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: saw six that way. Yeah. He was drafted by the
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: Cardinals thirty first overall. He set the Cardinals director with
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: two hundred twenty eight yards in a game. You can
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: now follow him on Twitter at Beanie Wells twenty six
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: to keep up with this work. Let's talk with him
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: now here. He is Beanie Wells. Hey, Beanie, I was
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: checking out your podcast, which is it's on Ohio State
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: right called The Script.
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: Yes, yep.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: So what what's interesting to me is I want to
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: play it in this basketball like camp once as an adult.
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: So it's like guys just trying to like relive whatever
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: shred of athleticism they had back in the day. And
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: your partner, Cardlal Jones was in it too, and he
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: dominated everybody. It was so annoying. He was dunking. He
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: I just want to say that, tell him that when
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: he came to Arkansas and played that basketball, he was
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: dunking on everybody and I was like, man, you guys
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: just don't lose it. Do you still have that twitch
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: in you as well?
• 41:11
  Speaker 7: I don't. I wish I did. I can tell you
• 41:13
  Speaker 7: one thing about Cardell. Anytime he's in any type of competition,
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: you know he's going to go full force no matter
• 41:18
  Speaker 7: who he's going against. There was a situation to where,
• 41:21
  Speaker 7: you know, he was at the Ohio State James Hospital
• 41:23
  Speaker 7: visiting kids that had cancer and one of the kids
• 41:26
  Speaker 7: wanted to play Men Madden. In that Madden game, Cardio
• 41:30
  Speaker 7: took no prisoners. He beat the kid like seventy to nothing.
• 41:33
  Speaker 7: It's most ridiculous thing in the world.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate the time. Everybody check out the script.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: It's podcast on Ohio State. Hey, what did you say?
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: What were your takeaways from that game against Miami.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: It was brutal.
• 41:44
  Speaker 7: It was very brutal. I mean in Miami they were
• 41:46
  Speaker 7: so dominant the point of contact. You have to love
• 41:49
  Speaker 7: the pass rus that they have in Reuben Bann and
• 41:51
  Speaker 7: the key messador buff for Ohio State. You know, as
• 41:54
  Speaker 7: a former Buckeye and as a Buckeye fan watching that game,
• 41:57
  Speaker 7: I was kind of in dismay the fact that we
• 41:59
  Speaker 7: couldn't pick up the blitz. We couldn't figure out ways
• 42:02
  Speaker 7: to get the ball out quick and manufacture some type
• 42:04
  Speaker 7: of offense on a consistent basis. It was dis hardening
• 42:07
  Speaker 7: to see because I thought this was a year Ohio
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: State was trending in that Georgia type direction to where
• 42:12
  Speaker 7: they'd be making a statement as being back to back
• 42:14
  Speaker 7: national championships and going on and you know, making a
• 42:17
  Speaker 7: run to create this dynasty. But unfortunately they came up short,
• 42:20
  Speaker 7: but Miami played their tails off.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: You played for coach Trussell, But can you give me
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: some maybe some some commentary on Ryan Day and why
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: you think he is the guy for Ohio State.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: I love Ryande.
• 42:32
  Speaker 7: I think he's the perfect mix between Jim Trussell and
• 42:35
  Speaker 7: irber Meyer.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: He can be a feiighty guy.
• 42:38
  Speaker 7: He comes across as a very nice individual, but you know,
• 42:41
  Speaker 7: behind closed doors, he gets after his players. He makes
• 42:44
  Speaker 7: sure that those guys are prepared. And you know, one
• 42:47
  Speaker 7: of the things that he has that a lot of
• 42:49
  Speaker 7: people don't get a chance to see is that edge.
• 42:51
  Speaker 7: That edge to you know, make sure guys are in
• 42:53
  Speaker 7: the right mental space because he is He's going to
• 42:56
  Speaker 7: be and he's preaching that to his players on a
• 42:58
  Speaker 7: consistent basis. But then when you go look at that
• 43:00
  Speaker 7: the ex's no's Ryan days, teams are always prepared, and
• 43:03
  Speaker 7: you know him being a former offensive coordinator, he dials
• 43:06
  Speaker 7: up offenses with the best. Now, unfortunately versus Miami it
• 43:09
  Speaker 7: didn't show. But when you go look at this track record,
• 43:12
  Speaker 7: you know he's always had Ohio State in contention to
• 43:15
  Speaker 7: win a national championship down the stretch at the end
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: of the year. And I think that's what you want
• 43:19
  Speaker 7: out of a coach, to have your team in it
• 43:21
  Speaker 7: in the thick of things when it matters most, and
• 43:23
  Speaker 7: he's done just that.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: I want to ask one other Ohio State question. And
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: you played with Brian Hartline and then he obviously was
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: coaching on the staff. He just took over the job
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: at USF. What do you think about him as a
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: head coach? What did you think about hims a player?
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Can you give me both of those?
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 43:38
  Speaker 7: No, the Heartline is an overachiever as a player, and
• 43:41
  Speaker 7: he's one of those.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: Guys that's always going to have an edge.
• 43:43
  Speaker 7: He always played with a chip on the shoulder and
• 43:46
  Speaker 7: that was the same way that you saw him coaching
• 43:48
  Speaker 7: at Ohio State. You know, you saw him go out
• 43:50
  Speaker 7: and be able to go and get the four and
• 43:52
  Speaker 7: five stars guys at the receiver position at an insane clip,
• 43:55
  Speaker 7: but not only get those.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: Guys, but develop them.
• 43:57
  Speaker 7: You talk about his track record of a who's who
• 44:00
  Speaker 7: in the National Football League right now, you talk about
• 44:02
  Speaker 7: a Mecca and BUCA. You know, the list goes on,
• 44:05
  Speaker 7: Chris Wilson, Chris Olave, Garrett Wilson.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: I mean, the list goes on and on. Mart Harrison Junior.
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: He developed all of those guys, and it's doing part
• 44:13
  Speaker 7: to the edge and the chip on his shoulder that he.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Always had and that dates back to high school.
• 44:18
  Speaker 7: Hardline felt like he was a guy that was overlooked,
• 44:20
  Speaker 7: even though he did in getting our scholarship to go
• 44:22
  Speaker 7: to Ohio State. He felt like there were a lot
• 44:24
  Speaker 7: of guys always talked about more than him. So he
• 44:26
  Speaker 7: approaches the game from a different perspective, like his back
• 44:30
  Speaker 7: is against the wall, and I think he's going to
• 44:31
  Speaker 7: do a heck of a job down there.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: USF.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: What about you.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: Growing up an Acron did you feel like you had
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: to go to Ohio State?
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: Initially? I did.
• 44:37
  Speaker 7: Growing up, I had family and there's a small portion
• 44:40
  Speaker 7: of Acron that are Michigan fans, So you know, you
• 44:43
  Speaker 7: have people that are Michigan fans and that you know,
• 44:47
  Speaker 7: growing up in the nineties, ohiose they didn't farewell versus
• 44:49
  Speaker 7: the University of Michigan. So me being a Buckeye fan,
• 44:52
  Speaker 7: I was like, you know what, I gotta go and
• 44:54
  Speaker 7: avenge some of this. So when I got the opportunity
• 44:57
  Speaker 7: to go to ohiose that it was certainly the case
• 44:59
  Speaker 7: that I started for our wanted to go. Growing up
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: a fan and not seeing them beat the arts rival,
• 45:03
  Speaker 7: you had a nascy tation in Mouth. But there was
• 45:05
  Speaker 7: a situation to where, you know, as I'm being recruited,
• 45:07
  Speaker 7: I take a trip out to Los Angeles and you know,
• 45:10
  Speaker 7: go visit USC when Pete Carroll is, you know, dominating
• 45:13
  Speaker 7: college football.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: And there was a brief moment in.
• 45:16
  Speaker 7: Me that was going to USC because I mean, what
• 45:19
  Speaker 7: sixteen seventeen year old kid doesn't love the lights of
• 45:22
  Speaker 7: Los Angeles, especially when you got the USC.
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: Who's running the world out there.
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: There's no professional football team, so those guys Matt Lioner,
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: Reggie Bush, Dwayne Jarrett, those guys were it in that town.
• 45:33
  Speaker 7: So you know, there was a small portion of me
• 45:35
  Speaker 7: that was going to USC when I went out there
• 45:37
  Speaker 7: on my visit.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Did you ever committ to you? S see?
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: I did, I really did.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: So.
• 45:41
  Speaker 7: Crazy thing is I committed to USC while I was
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: still committed Ohio State. But my mom shut that down
• 45:46
  Speaker 7: so quick. My mom got the I literally called my parents.
• 45:49
  Speaker 7: We're off the breakfast with Coach Carroll, and I'm like,
• 45:53
  Speaker 7: I'm com coming here. I'm telling him I'm going there.
• 45:54
  Speaker 7: I called my parents, my mom and my dad, and
• 45:57
  Speaker 7: my dad I tell them I'm going to USC.
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: He chuckles. He passes the phone.
• 46:01
  Speaker 7: To my mom and I say I'm going to USC,
• 46:03
  Speaker 7: and then she gives me an ear full and says,
• 46:05
  Speaker 7: give Coach Carroll the phone. And all I see is
• 46:08
  Speaker 7: face starting to turn red. And I'm like, well, what
• 46:11
  Speaker 7: did she say to you? She said, take you back
• 46:13
  Speaker 7: to the airport immediately. So that was my short, brief,
• 46:16
  Speaker 7: ten minute commitment to USC.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: Where else did you visit?
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: So I didn't go to a lot of places.
• 46:22
  Speaker 7: I went to the University of Michigan, went to Ohio State,
• 46:25
  Speaker 7: and USC. That was it, you know. Once I committed
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: to Ohio State, it was a kind of a deal
• 46:31
  Speaker 7: between me and coach Trussell. Well, you can go to
• 46:32
  Speaker 7: one more place to visit and see what you like.
• 46:35
  Speaker 7: And you know, I think he kind of knew my
• 46:36
  Speaker 7: parents wouldn't let me go all the way across the
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: world to go to college, so he was like, yeah,
• 46:40
  Speaker 7: go visit usc goes check out what LA has to offer.
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: And that was the one other place that I went.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: I still think I have a bit of brand bias
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: unfairly against Indiana, even after watching them be awesome, be dominant.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: I've just seen them for so many years not be
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: I mean I've not seen a coach like Signetti come
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: in and completely shift a program in two years like
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: he has there Indiana, they are the favorite to win
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: the whole thing. What do you see from them that
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: makes them so strong?
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: I mean they are complete football team.
• 47:06
  Speaker 7: You know, we talk so much about, you know, Fernanda Mendoza,
• 47:09
  Speaker 7: but you know it's not just Fananda Mendoza and what
• 47:11
  Speaker 7: he's able to do in the past game.
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: They have a great offensive line.
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: They got a two headed monster, you know, and blacking
• 47:17
  Speaker 7: him be in the running back at the running backs position.
• 47:20
  Speaker 7: But then on the defensive side, I mean, they get
• 47:22
  Speaker 7: pressure like no other team in the country, and they're
• 47:25
  Speaker 7: not talked about because there isn't that one dominant pass
• 47:27
  Speaker 7: rusher that you see winning all the college football awards.
• 47:30
  Speaker 7: I mean, they're complete football team. And you know, it's
• 47:32
  Speaker 7: been nothing short of amazing to watch a coach coming
• 47:34
  Speaker 7: to a program that has been essential doormat for college
• 47:38
  Speaker 7: football for so many years and resurrected and not only resurrected,
• 47:41
  Speaker 7: but resurrected to the point in which he's had them
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: in the highest points in college football, the College Football
• 47:46
  Speaker 7: Playoff the last couple of years, and I think they're
• 47:48
  Speaker 7: probably going to win a national championship. I mean this story,
• 47:51
  Speaker 7: I mean, he's gonna have a statue when it's all
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: said and done outside in Bloomington, Indiana because of what
• 47:57
  Speaker 7: he's been able to do there at that program.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: But I'm it's been crazy.
• 48:00
  Speaker 7: I mean, they're so good at every single position, and
• 48:03
  Speaker 7: it's doing part to one Kerkcineti for him going out
• 48:06
  Speaker 7: and finding the right guys in the portal. You know,
• 48:08
  Speaker 7: we hear so many people talk about the portal, but
• 48:11
  Speaker 7: it's not an exact sign to us. But he most
• 48:13
  Speaker 7: certainly hasn't figured out because he's getting the right guys
• 48:15
  Speaker 7: to be able to come into his program and be
• 48:17
  Speaker 7: able to deliver.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Right now, they're killing in the portal right now, but
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: fairly because they've been really good the last couple of
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: years and they can now pitch that with money. But
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: year one it brought a lot of his JMU guys.
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: It wasn't that they had a ton of money. It
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: wasn't that they had established a winning culture that people
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: knew about. How the heck has he done this?
• 48:36
  Speaker 7: I mean, I would say it goes back to the
• 48:38
  Speaker 7: culture in which he had at JMU. He brought in
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: guys that were familiar with the way that he did things,
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: guys that were big time playmakers and Loja Zerat is
• 48:46
  Speaker 7: one of those guys that's still on the roster right
• 48:48
  Speaker 7: now in Indiana killing it. But when you bring in
• 48:50
  Speaker 7: guys that understand the way you want to do things,
• 48:54
  Speaker 7: now as a coach, you don't necessarily have to do
• 48:55
  Speaker 7: it all on your own because these players can speak
• 48:58
  Speaker 7: to the locker room, they can speak to the other players,
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: they can kind of gobbanize and get those guys infatuated
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: with the way that you do things and knowing that
• 49:05
  Speaker 7: it's going to lead to the ultimate success because look,
• 49:08
  Speaker 7: he won at the other programs. And now if I'm
• 49:10
  Speaker 7: a guy that was on Jmlu's roster, I can tell
• 49:12
  Speaker 7: him newbie on Indiana's roster, like, all we have to
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: do is listen and buy it.
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: And it works.
• 49:18
  Speaker 7: And when you have other people in the locker room
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: preaching that same message, I mean, that thing makes everything
• 49:23
  Speaker 7: cohesively and it makes everything jail so much easier. But
• 49:27
  Speaker 7: it's crazy, it's wild to see because we haven't seen
• 49:30
  Speaker 7: anything like it in college football. A guy that come
• 49:32
  Speaker 7: in from a smaller program go up to the big
• 49:34
  Speaker 7: leagues essentially and dominate in the fashion in which he's did.
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: I mean, one of the all time great coaching stories
• 49:40
  Speaker 7: that we'll see in college football history.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been odd, but refreshingly odd because and I've
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: compared it to in a different way, Adrian Peterson bouncing
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: back from injury so fast that it actually showed you
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: could do it. And so then fairly or unfairly, people
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: were trying to match themselves to that standard. Like Adrian
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Peterson's back, He's running the ball months after he was injured.
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: They let people know, now all these coaches are getting
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: compared to Signetti fairly or unfairly because he came in
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: and changed that word that's thrown around so much culture.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Have you been and I don't want you to say
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: any name if you don't want to. Have you been
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: in bad cultures before?
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent.
• 50:13
  Speaker 7: You know, when you play football, we played any sport
• 50:16
  Speaker 7: for a long period of time, You're going to experience it.
• 50:18
  Speaker 7: And you know, the one thing that you can't let
• 50:21
  Speaker 7: happen with the culture is once you start losing the
• 50:24
  Speaker 7: locker room, you start losing some of your veteran players,
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: that stuff starts to trickle down, and everybody starts to
• 50:31
  Speaker 7: kind of, you know, start questioning the system and start
• 50:34
  Speaker 7: trying to, you know, figure out their own way. And
• 50:36
  Speaker 7: once you know, people start figuring out their own way,
• 50:39
  Speaker 7: I mean, nobody's yelling together.
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: Nobody's together.
• 50:41
  Speaker 7: So that's the most awful thing that can happen to
• 50:43
  Speaker 7: a program, is you lose the locker room and you
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: lose your veteran leadership.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: That can go south really quick.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about the portal. I feel like it's a
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: wild West. I'm sure you do too. That the story
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: that I was thinking about this morning was the Williams kid,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: the quarterback at Washington, and you know, he signs four
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: million bucks a year, they've pretty much said that's what
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: it was. Now, he signed the paper work, and then
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: now it's like, hey, uls, she was offered him six
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: so he wants to go to LSU now, And that
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: is just's that's representative of kind of what's happening now.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is definitely on the polar side of
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: it if somebody who signs and then probably gets poached
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: and said, hey, we'll give you even more money. Like,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: what are your thoughts in general on what the porter?
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: I think players should be paid, first of all, I
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: think absolutely players should be paid, but there's got to
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: be some sort of boundary, right one hundred percent.
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, I honestly think they should be paid as well.
• 51:31
  Speaker 7: But when we talk about you know, guys, you know,
• 51:33
  Speaker 7: agreeing to something and then you know, all of a
• 51:35
  Speaker 7: sudden voting thinking they're gonna get more dollars and going
• 51:38
  Speaker 7: to greener pastors, I mean, I think that's where we
• 51:41
  Speaker 7: have to, you.
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: Know, get this thing reeled in a little bit. And
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: obviously on one end.
• 51:44
  Speaker 7: We see it with coaches too, because coaches, you know,
• 51:46
  Speaker 7: can leave and go to a different program for more dollars,
• 51:50
  Speaker 7: I e.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: Langkiff and ole Miss.
• 51:52
  Speaker 7: But nonetheless, I mean when it comes to the portal,
• 51:55
  Speaker 7: we don't necessarily even talk about the fact that a
• 51:57
  Speaker 7: lot of these kids, if you don't pan out after
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: that one year, you may be pushed back into the portal.
• 52:03
  Speaker 7: So I think, you know, there has to be some collecting,
• 52:05
  Speaker 7: collective bargaining agreement that is in place for these guys
• 52:09
  Speaker 7: and not only protect the players, but protect the university,
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: because if I shell out, you know, four million dollars,
• 52:14
  Speaker 7: I want to know that this guy is going to
• 52:16
  Speaker 7: be committed to this program, will not leave me after
• 52:18
  Speaker 7: a year and after he has a great year, just
• 52:21
  Speaker 7: because the program says we're going to give him two
• 52:23
  Speaker 7: more million dollars. Now, let it be a situation to
• 52:25
  Speaker 7: Rock can come and necessarily up my contract that I'm
• 52:29
  Speaker 7: offering a kid before he says, you know what, I'm
• 52:31
  Speaker 7: leaving and going elsewhere.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: I don't like that standpoint of it. I think there
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: needs to be some rules.
• 52:35
  Speaker 7: To rein it in on both phases to protect both
• 52:38
  Speaker 7: the player and the university, because nobody wants to be
• 52:41
  Speaker 7: left in the dark, and then in the flip side,
• 52:43
  Speaker 7: nobody wants to be pushed out if I don't necessarily
• 52:45
  Speaker 7: live up to the contract you gave me the year before, you.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Bring up something really interesting, and I think we saw
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: with the receiver at Texas who is now going to Oklahoma.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: He basically said, hey, I was pushed out. Like it's
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: it's not all just players going hey, I want to
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: leave for more. Some point, players are getting in the
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: portal because the coaches are going, we don't have a
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: spot for you anymore. You got to get in the portal.
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: And I think there has to be something there too,
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: right to protect players.
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: Have no question about it.
• 53:09
  Speaker 7: I mean, just imagine if you are, you got a kid,
• 53:12
  Speaker 7: and you trusting You're trusting a coach and a program
• 53:15
  Speaker 7: to say, you know what, my son's going to commit
• 53:17
  Speaker 7: to you, and we're going to expect you to go
• 53:19
  Speaker 7: develop my son not only to be a great football player,
• 53:22
  Speaker 7: to be a great young man, to be a great student.
• 53:24
  Speaker 7: And then all of a sudden, the program isn't winning
• 53:27
  Speaker 7: and we're trying to figure out ways as a program
• 53:30
  Speaker 7: to go out and get players that are going to
• 53:32
  Speaker 7: help us win. Right now, your son is going to
• 53:35
  Speaker 7: be exiled because he is a player that's making an
• 53:37
  Speaker 7: impact right now because he didn't develop soon enough.
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: Like I don't want that. I wouldn't want that as
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: a parent. I mean nobody would.
• 53:44
  Speaker 7: So you know, you have to put in some rules
• 53:46
  Speaker 7: and parameters to protect these student athletes. If we're still
• 53:49
  Speaker 7: going to call them student athletes, right, if you're still
• 53:51
  Speaker 7: going to have the expectation, see for these guys to
• 53:53
  Speaker 7: go to school and go to class and to be students,
• 53:58
  Speaker 7: you still have to protect him some way in former fashion.
• 54:01
  Speaker 7: I don't want my kid to be pushed out just
• 54:03
  Speaker 7: because he is a producer right now for you, because
• 54:05
  Speaker 7: he's still a young kid.
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: He still needs time to develop.
• 54:08
  Speaker 7: He knows he needs to figure out how to be
• 54:10
  Speaker 7: a student athlete but also be a young adult in
• 54:13
  Speaker 7: the same sense. And it's not easy, especially in this
• 54:15
  Speaker 7: day and age, in this climate where it's become more
• 54:17
  Speaker 7: about winning and dollars than anything.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: The timing of the portal opening is terrible. I think
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: everybody agrees on that. I mean, you have running backs
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: at Oregon hopping in the portal. They're still in the tournament.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: If you were the commissioner of college football, like, what
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: is the one thing you would do with the portal
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: to at least give it some sort of semblance of
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: it being collective and unified and working.
• 54:41
  Speaker 7: Not even just with the portal, but I think just
• 54:43
  Speaker 7: with everything that we've experienced this year with college football,
• 54:46
  Speaker 7: from the coaching changes to the portal to signing Day,
• 54:52
  Speaker 7: I think we need to bump this thing up. We
• 54:53
  Speaker 7: need to move the schedule up to where it's a
• 54:56
  Speaker 7: clearcut date to where we're going to be done by,
• 54:58
  Speaker 7: to where the por opens after the season and you
• 55:02
  Speaker 7: can take a new job after the college football season.
• 55:04
  Speaker 7: Make this thing done in the early part of January
• 55:07
  Speaker 7: to where we're not faced with these situations, to where
• 55:10
  Speaker 7: a Lane Kiffin has to decide on if I can
• 55:12
  Speaker 7: finish up my college football season where I'm mad at
• 55:15
  Speaker 7: Old Miss and still be able to take a job
• 55:17
  Speaker 7: elsewhere and finish up a recruiting class, or go out
• 55:20
  Speaker 7: and get the portal guys that I need to help
• 55:22
  Speaker 7: me for the following season. So I think it's a
• 55:25
  Speaker 7: whole college football issue. It's not just a porter issue.
• 55:27
  Speaker 7: But they most certainly have to fix this calendar if
• 55:30
  Speaker 7: they don't want these issues to continue to be a
• 55:32
  Speaker 7: problem and for us to face. We're sitting here talking
• 55:35
  Speaker 7: about this issues next year.
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: We can't.
• 55:37
  Speaker 7: It's too much money at stake. It's too much at
• 55:39
  Speaker 7: stake for this to be an issue when it's a
• 55:41
  Speaker 7: simple fix.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss is playing with their new head coach, but
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: obviously he wasn't the head coach all year, and they're
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: old coaches at LSU right now, and that makes me
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: root for Ole Miss. I would love to see All
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Miss with I'm not a Miss fan, as a matter
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: of fact, I don't like Ole Miss because I'm an
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: Arkansas guy. But I'm rooting for hole Mess because I
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: would love to see Lane Kiffin leave for a team
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: he thinks can win a national championship and watch his
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: team win a national championship. As someone who doesn't live
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: in SC country, what are your feelings on Old Mess?
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: Are you rooting for them or against them?
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: Gee?
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: I'm routed for Old Miss, no question about it.
• 56:11
  Speaker 7: I think it's like between Indiana and Old Miss, they're
• 56:14
  Speaker 7: the best stories in college football, right. I mean, I
• 56:17
  Speaker 7: honestly couldn't believe Lane Kiffin decided to vote and go
• 56:20
  Speaker 7: to LSU when he shown right now you couldn't win
• 56:24
  Speaker 7: an Old Miss. You can get the guys you can
• 56:26
  Speaker 7: get the players, and they're essentially going to give you
• 56:29
  Speaker 7: the money to go out and get more.
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: Players and give you everything that you need.
• 56:33
  Speaker 7: At you're disposed to win, and you decide to go
• 56:35
  Speaker 7: to a program at LSU where the expectation is going
• 56:37
  Speaker 7: to be so much higher.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: It didn't make sense to me. It didn't make sense.
• 56:41
  Speaker 7: At the end of the season this year, he would
• 56:43
  Speaker 7: have had a statue at Old Miss and been riding
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: high forever, and then he would have been able to
• 56:48
  Speaker 7: go out and get recruits at a high rate that
• 56:51
  Speaker 7: he wasn't before at Old Miss.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, it just made no sense.
• 56:55
  Speaker 7: The issue that I have, especially with him going to LSU,
• 56:58
  Speaker 7: if he doesn't win in three or four years, he's
• 57:00
  Speaker 7: going to be on the hot seat and he's going
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: to be scratching his head saying did I make the
• 57:04
  Speaker 7: right decision? Hell, he may even be scratching his head
• 57:06
  Speaker 7: at the end of the year LSU or Ole Miss
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: wins a national championship saying if I made the right decision.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Carnel Te just said he's going to the NFL. What
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: advice do you give new guys going in from what
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: your experience was.
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: One enjoy the process.
• 57:20
  Speaker 7: You know, you're getting the opportunity to live out a
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: lifelong dream, so take it for that, but also understand
• 57:26
  Speaker 7: that this is a business. Understand that there's certain expectations
• 57:29
  Speaker 7: of you that may be weren't of you at the
• 57:32
  Speaker 7: college ranks, and you're going into this and you have
• 57:35
  Speaker 7: to understand that it's a business first, and you are
• 57:38
  Speaker 7: the captain of your ship, meaning you call the shots.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: Don't let you know agent or you know, some.
• 57:44
  Speaker 7: Marketing guy kind of force you in a certain direction.
• 57:47
  Speaker 7: Understand the narrative that you want for yourself and the
• 57:50
  Speaker 7: path that you want to go with your career, and
• 57:52
  Speaker 7: that you are at the Ham. You're the captain of
• 57:54
  Speaker 7: this boat and you drive it in a direction that
• 57:56
  Speaker 7: you want to go in.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question just about you
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: in high school because I'm always so interested in guys
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: who were number one. You were the top running back
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: out of high school, which is awesome, and yeah, congratulations
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: on that retro. Was it just wild in the stands
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: to see all the scouts or all the coaches always there,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: or the fan I mean it had to be crazy, right,
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Was it about you a lot when you were in
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: high school?
• 58:21
  Speaker 7: It was from my junior year to my senior year.
• 58:24
  Speaker 7: It definitely was, and it was it was a whirlwin.
• 58:27
  Speaker 7: It was a crazy time. I mean, this is when
• 58:29
  Speaker 7: you know, recruiting magazines and recruiting pundits were really starting
• 58:33
  Speaker 7: to get popular, right, so you know, all of those
• 58:35
  Speaker 7: guys were at the games, and you know, I felt
• 58:37
  Speaker 7: like after the game, I was doing I don't know,
• 58:39
  Speaker 7: six seven interviews and then obviously you had the scouts there.
• 58:42
  Speaker 7: So it was a fun time. It was a wild
• 58:44
  Speaker 7: time because it was all new to me and my
• 58:47
  Speaker 7: family for that matter. But nonetheless, it was a great opportunity.
• 58:50
  Speaker 7: And looking back on that, man, I wish I would
• 58:52
  Speaker 7: have enjoyed it a little bit more because you really
• 58:55
  Speaker 7: never know how fast that time period goes. I mean,
• 58:57
  Speaker 7: you know, I was twenty some add years ago, and
• 58:59
  Speaker 7: it literally feels like it was yesterday. So I most
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: certainly wish I would have taken it in and enjoyed
• 59:04
  Speaker 7: it a little bit more.
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: But it was a fun time. It was most certainly,
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: you know, fun seeing Jim Trussell.
• 59:10
  Speaker 7: Lloyd Carr, the urban mares of the world at your school,
• 59:14
  Speaker 7: at your game, you know, walking through your halls and
• 59:16
  Speaker 7: then all of the other kids in the school.
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: Pointing and seeing, Oh, they're talking to Beanie right there.
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: It was an amazing time.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Was your mailbox just full?
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it definitely was.
• 59:26
  Speaker 7: I mean my mom still has tubs of, you know,
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: the letters that I got in college, and now my
• 59:32
  Speaker 7: son's getting an opportunity to read them. And as they're
• 59:34
  Speaker 7: going through the recruiting ranks, they're comparing their letters to
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: the letters that I was getting in college.
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: So it's the fun time.
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: What advice are you giving them as they're going through
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  Speaker 1: the process.
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  Speaker 4: Oh?
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  Speaker 7: Man, just work, you know, I'm telling them all the time.
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  Speaker 7: Just keep working. I mean, things will come and you know,
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  Speaker 7: you'll end up where you're often supposed to be, But
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  Speaker 7: you have to put in the work because without it,
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  Speaker 7: I mean, you're going to be nothing, and there's always
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  Speaker 1: Nonetheless, let me ask your one final question about the NFL. Obviously,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: you played in Arizona. You crushed it there. What's happening there?
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  Speaker 1: They just fired their coach. I guess what he's talking about. Culture?
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  Speaker 1: Did they have it?
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't look like it right now. Most certainly.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, especially when you're in a situation to where
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  Speaker 7: you're running through multiple coaches, you're running through multiple gms
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  Speaker 7: and people in the front office.
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  Speaker 4: That's a tough task.
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  Speaker 7: It's hard to build a culture when you don't have
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  Speaker 7: that continuity upstairs in the front office. And I think
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 7: right now that's what we're seeing. I mean, they're not
• 1:00:25
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  Speaker 4: And that's a hard task. But it starts in the
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  Speaker 7: I think when Steve Kahin was there where he was
• 1:00:42
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• 1:00:45
  Speaker 7: doing a really good job and retaining players and bringing
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• 1:00:52
  Speaker 7: they just haven't been able to get it done. And
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• 1:00:56
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  Speaker 1: Before we get to the games tonight, as far as
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: I actually watch them, what do you think about Michael
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: Irvin and Miami Because he's become a bit of the face. Yes,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: like with his antics and I.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: Love Michael Irvin, Cowboys Cowboys fan miacke Levin's a cowboy
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: man like I love the dude.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: It's a little too much to me. Mean, woop belt woopen.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: I'm talking even like watching the games and between every play,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: let's see what Michael Irvin thought about that as his
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: own area on the field. You're right, because he runs
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: back and forth and dancing like oh, and he talks
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: to the players. He's almost like Matthew McConaughey has been
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: for the last I don't know how many years Michael,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: Matthew McConaughey been on that field with Texas to Miami.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: So he's way worse.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: So it's more his antics, I'm saying, Like he's much
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: more visible out there. It's more noticeable.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a little more polarizing too, because he is active, right,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: McConaughey is not that he's there and people put the
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: camera on him because he's famous. Yeah, Michael Irvin's there
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: and he wants the camera, so he's doing things to
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: keep the camera on him.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: Because even Ray Lewis is there and yeah, chilling, I'm out.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: What do you think about him?
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it kind of annoys me a little bit. It
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: annoys me a little bit. It just annoys me when
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 3: they take like the Taylor Swift stuff was kind of
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: annoying too. Like, We're watching the game and I know
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: Michael Irvin is a huge he went to Miami. He's
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: a huge, you know, supporter of Miami and is the
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: face of Miami. I get it, but I want to
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: watch the game, and I think Michael Irvin takes takes
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 3: that away from the team that's actually playing the game.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: You think Travis Kelsey's retiring, Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, I
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: don't think so why not? I just I just I
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: don't know. I just don't think you go out like
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: that bad. He goes out sour.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: Now he's also on the drama with his charity.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 4: I saw that.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: They steal money, money laundering.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: Somewhere of my mind goes so I'm not gonna say
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: and you look it up, because I'm going to give
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: you what I know and this is without reading the
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: articles that I think when they did some investigati of
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: his charities, like forty percent of it went to the
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: actual cause, sixty percent went to the people that were
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: running the charity. And the people that are running charity
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: were like his close And that's not out of the ordinary.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: No, that's normal.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they're going, well, you're a really rich dude,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: and it's your foundation. We think more money should be
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: going to the charity other than just paying like your
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: people that are your possible friends and family that are
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: running the charity. There's nothing illegal happening. And with most
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: charities that's kind of how it goes. Yeah, I've done
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: pay for the infrastructure.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: And you yeah, and the people running the charity, the
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: people working for the charity needs to get paid, you know.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: And so that's kind of it's a weird thought to
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: think that, you know, you have money and some of it,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: not all of it goes to whatever the cause is
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: because people need to get paid.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: I think it's really dumb and short sighted when people go, man,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: this ceo arity, he makes a million dollars a year.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: That shouldn't happen. But okay, let's say you get somebody
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: that makes fifty thousand dollars a year and the charity
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: makes a million bucks overall. Or you get someone you
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: pay a million bucks that would be running another company
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: and the charity makes seven hundred million dollars because they
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: know what they're doing. Because they know what they're doing, Like,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: do you actually care about the cause? Because if you did,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: you wouldn't so much care about how much money somebody
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: makes if they're making more money for the cause. So
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: I always think those people are idiotic. They complained about
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: CEOs of a charity making money because if they weren't
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: doing that, they'd be running a company. Yes, but they
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: go and hire people that run companies well to run
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: this charity.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 5: What do you see, Kevin, Yeah, it says about forty
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 5: one cents of every dollar has gone to the charity,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 5: raised in the last couple of years one point five
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 5: million and spending roughly one.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: Point one million.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 5: And who is running the charity It is a a
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 5: Anda management group, a firm co founded by Travis Kelsey's
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: longtime business manager.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: So that's connected to him. To sure, I don't think
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: anything's wrong, but that's the controversy.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything wrong either. I mean, yes,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: it's a little weird. It sounds weird, right, It sounds
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: weird that more money doesn't go to the actual cause
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: of the charity. But I understand it, so it's not weird.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: Ex Amplified though, because it's Travis Kelcey and he's at
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift and he's also a really rich guy. And
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: you're like, well, why don't you just pay the people
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: to run the charity because you have millions and millions
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: of dollars?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: What do you think about that?
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's unfair to judge him because he's differently
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: because of the accomplishments and the success that he's had.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: I agree, Yeah, I think they're running the charity as
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: the charity should be run. From what I know, I
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: know very little. A lot of I haven't been in
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: the books. Give me the books. I'll get in the
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: Boo book.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: Give me a week with the books, give me the book.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: We'll see how I come out. But yeah, I I
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: tend to think if Mahomes is healthy enough to come
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: back at the beginning of next year, you'll come back,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: that he may come back as well. It is an
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: ugly way to leave Yeah, this is a bad year,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: bad taste in your mouth, sour out.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: When's the wedding? Who knows? There's no date.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: My invitation says, pull it up, rand and open for
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's right. Yes, he did the Red Tour right.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're not kidding. No, not a jokey Yeah,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: but you're making it sound like we're kidding. Yeah.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: What was she like, dude?
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 6: She was awesome. Yeah, I mean everything everybody says. You know,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 6: sweet kind takes care of everybody.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: Would you talk to you in person? Like, look at you?
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, hey, Brandon, I.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 6: I think she got my name wrong a few times,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 6: but I didn't care. But by the end of it,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 6: she knew it.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: Hey, let's go on, Braxton Braiden.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: That's cool though, that's awesome.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who's the favorite? When the Super Bowl? According of
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: the odds? Eddie, I know you haven't seen it, so
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: I have.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: Not seen it. I'm going to guess. I'm going to guess.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: The bills No, no, no, no, no, no, bad they're
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: plus eleven hundred, Dan, that's so you should bet on that.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Det that's a really good I got a little bit
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: on them as a future.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I did two like a couple months ago.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: The Seahawks is the favorite, yeah, plus three twenty. The
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: Rams are second plus four hundred, and I think if
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: the Rams win this week that will probably even itself out.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks are getting that slight edge because
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: they have a bye week.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and the home field they're out.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: The Broncos at three, the Patriots at four plus nine hundred,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: But the big gap is between the Rams and the Broncos.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: It goes from what did you say?
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 9: Three plus three hundred nine hundred plus six fifty is
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 9: the Broncos, Patriots, Eagles, Buffalo, Jacksonville, Houston, Green Bay, Chicago,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 9: San Francisco, the Chargers, the Steelers and Panthers are at
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 9: plus twenty thousand.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: Dang, that's a nice payout.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, what is that? Just a update? Because I haven't
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: seen it, and you have what do we own? Our
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: Skins league going to the playoffs?
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: Boys, you did the math and no, I didn't do
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 5: the math. We just looked at that math forty nine hundred.
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 3: For word down before the postseason.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: So basically five grand, which would mean I owe twenty five.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: You guys ow twelve to fifty each We need the
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: Patriots to win to only lose like one hundred bucks
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: this week.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: Okay, just this week, but if they lose, we lose
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: like six hundred six to seven hundred buck and then
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: we stop making money. Yeah, yeah, we're done.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: But we don't make money in the first two weeks.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: We're just trying to stay even. They need to win
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: so we don't lose money the first two weeks. Okay,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: the only thing that makes me feel better is we're
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: not the We don't owe the biggest.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: That doesn't make me feel better.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: What's that number right now?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: That's seventy nine hundred.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: Ay yay yaye.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, dude, that would sting.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: If the Patriots. Just doing some math for you guys
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: so you can know, I we're forty nine now and
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: there are what six games.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 3: This weekend?
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I think you're talking about the Patriots.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: So we could basically lose another thousand this week, another
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: thousand the next week if the Patriots lose. So if
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: we lose Patriots win, we're probably even.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 3: Okay, so it doesn't matter.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Now five hundred, so I would say we could lose
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: that if they lose lose this week we're gonna be
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: down one thousand more after next week, so we could
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: lose another fifteen sixteen hundred bucks. If the Patriots lose
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: a medial, we will Okay, the Patriots lose this week,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: we're gonna lose another fifteen sixteen hundred buck So it's
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: going to.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 5: Be basically it's a eight grand right to be safe.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Now, no, probably seven, okay seven for the season.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: Probably.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: I would say, oh, yeah, you want super conservative.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah no, no, I want real.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: Well, I can't do the real because I want worst case,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: the worst case, realistic, seventy five hundred. Okay, we need
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: the Patriots to win or that's gonna be what it
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: is the Panthers, Right, what.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: About the Panthers winning? What if they win the whole thing?
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: If they win the whole thing, that's gonna save us
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: four hundred bucks.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: Go all right, it's already impossible.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 6: But okay, guys, I know it's January, but should we
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 6: start a car wash, should be a food drive, any
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 6: offerings so we could.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: Lose, let's just say so bad, what's up?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: That's so bad? Those numbers are bad, like like, and
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: I know everytime you do something like this, you're like oh,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: there's a chance we can probably owe a lot of money.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: But I didn't. I wasn't really ready for all that.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: I wanted us to be like, oh my god, we
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: want ten thousand dollars off this thing.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: It's awesome and we definitely could have.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: We could have, we didn't.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: So if we get to seventy five hundred, each of
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: you guys will owe eighteen hundred bucks basically. Okay, So
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: just say the worst case scenario two thousand dollars.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: And why didn't Brandon jump on this because he's smart?
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 5: Remember you wanted to go.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was never asked.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: Here's the question for you guys.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: You want to jump in new brain take over for me?
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe next year? Will you guys want to get in
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: next year?
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: I have to think about it.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 6: I'll get in next year.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: Let's see, let's see the damage this year, and then
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: we'll think of it.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: Shouldn't be that though, you should already know based on
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: what's happening.
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  Speaker 3: No, I got to know how much to save all years.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I'll be in next year without a doubt, because
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: if I lose a bunch of this year, I'll probably
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  Speaker 1: beat even again. Because that had a couple of good
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: years in a row.
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  Speaker 3: There's got to be some conditions.
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  Speaker 1: There will be no conditions. No, you can't make conditions.
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  Speaker 3: Hear me out. You can't blame me when Joe Burrow
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  Speaker 3: gets hurt.
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  Speaker 4: We didn't. We made for a hole.
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  Speaker 1: We said, we fought about it. And if I also said,
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  Speaker 1: if the Bengals win, it's your victory.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that wasn't going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. I said before Joe Burrow got hurt.
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  Speaker 1: If the Bengals end up being a really good team,
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: it's before Burrough got hurt. You're the one that was
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: right the whole time. It wasn't just take the shots
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: that you it was you also get to be the
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: hero too, because you fought for the Bengals over the Packers.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, my crystal ball was foggy.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: So we are going to do a NCAA Calcutta.
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  Speaker 3: I know I saw that email. I don't think I
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 3: can do that.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: Those are awesome and you don't close to the damage,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: but you don't. Yeah maybe for you, maybe maybe, but
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: you don't lose more. There's a limit on your losing.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: You bid on teams, so you can bid five hundred
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: bucks and get a team. You don't lose any more
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: than what you already pay you.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: You can sit in the draft and then you're like,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: all right, I'm gonna do twenty dollars and then you
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: never have a chance to plan.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: You no team, You get a thirteen seed. But the
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: more your team with, the more money you make.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, just like let us breathe. I gotta breathe
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you had to be in I know,
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  Speaker 1: I saw the email. My favorite thing is the Calcutta
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: and cuaa Calcutta.
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  Speaker 3: It's fun, March madness, it's fun.
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  Speaker 1: All right, We're done.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: Think about that for a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: What's up?
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 3: Think about all that.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: We need the Patriots to win. We do, Yes, we do,
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: because it will save us a bunch of money.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: Are there any other teams that we should be rooting
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: for that people have as losers?
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one guy has the seahawkic is a loser, so
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: he's lost a bunch of money. So if they eventually lose,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: or if they lose, they're money. Well, they're not gonna
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: lose it this week the next week. Yeah, yeah, so
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: because they also get money for winning. If they're all
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: to buy. It's a free money.
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  Speaker 3: So they got a win.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: So they got a win than they earned it.
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  Speaker 3: Huh you sure did?
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: All right, We're out. Let's see you guys next week.
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