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Sharri | 11 December · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News.
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Speaker 2: This is Sharry and Merry Christmas to you too, Andrew.
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Speaker 2: You've had an amazing year. Well, good evening everyone. This
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Speaker 2: is my second last show before the Christmas break. Don't
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Speaker 2: miss a minute because it's a massive program, A big
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Speaker 2: exclusive on Tony Burk's department asking Israeli visitors if they've
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Speaker 2: committed war crimes or witness genocide, just if they want
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Speaker 2: to come to our country. That scoop coming up. Plus,
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Speaker 2: Israeli Eurovision singer Eden Golan is on the show exclusively.
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Speaker 2: Tonight she was heckled, booed and face serious security threats,
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Speaker 2: and tonight she shares her powerful message about standing tall
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Speaker 2: amid the hate. But first, today the Prime Minister try
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Speaker 2: to put the anti Semitism genie back in the bottle.
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Speaker 2: Too little, too late. Waking up this morning, we see
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Speaker 2: the news and think, not again, that sick feeling in
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Speaker 2: your stomach, What is it this time? And overnight it
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Speaker 2: was a torched car, an anti Semitic vandalism in Willara,
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Speaker 2: just three weeks after another anti Semitic vandalism's free in
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Speaker 2: the same suburb, and five days after the Adash Synagogue bombing.
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Speaker 2: It seems we can't get through a week without another
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Speaker 2: horrific incident unfolding. And I worry that now it's too
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Speaker 2: late to put this hatred back in the box. Our
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Speaker 2: political leaders and law enforcement have allowed this to spread
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Speaker 2: for fourteen months, and now they're trying to act, and
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Speaker 2: it's just too late. The Prime Minister finally stood up
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Speaker 2: today and he said that antisemitism must end. He said
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Speaker 2: he supports banning protests outside homes of worship. And this
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Speaker 2: is exactly what I've been calling or here's what he said.
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Speaker 3: We need an end to any Semitism. It is evil,
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Speaker 3: it diminishes ours is a nation. I own equivocally condemn
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Speaker 3: the shameful ex of violent aimed at the Jewish community.
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Speaker 3: I certainly support the banning of demonstrations outside any place
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Speaker 3: of worship.
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Speaker 2: So this is Alban Eazy trying to put the gen
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Speaker 2: back in the bottle. After allowing anti Israel hatred to
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Speaker 2: spill over into antisemitism for fourteen months, he's now realized
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Speaker 2: that Australians hate this ugly racism. He's realized this is
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Speaker 2: a major political problem for him. He's been pressured by
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Speaker 2: all of the media and so now, as I said,
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Speaker 2: he's trying to put the anti Semitism genie back in
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Speaker 2: the bottle after allowing it to run rampant to our
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Speaker 2: despair for too long. Government directly allowed this anti Israel
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Speaker 2: sentiment to spill over into naked jew hatred with barely
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Speaker 2: any pushback, and his government is still even as we
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Speaker 2: see f Israel spray painted on torched cars in Jewish areas,
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Speaker 2: his government is still perpetuating this anti Israel message. Penniwong
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Speaker 2: inflames tensions and heightens the temperature, emboldening the pro Palestinian
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Speaker 2: activists with her constant criticism of Israel. Yeah, the Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister today reject this accusation. He claims that Penny Wong
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Speaker 2: understands racism.
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Speaker 3: Penny Wong knows about racism. You know, this is someone
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Speaker 3: who understands very firsthand the damage that racism can cause.
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but just because she has personally experienced racism
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Speaker 2: doesn't mean she understands anti Semitism, which she clearly doesn't.
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Speaker 2: As Dave Shima, liberal senator said here last night, her
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Speaker 2: provocative anti Israel retrick is only making this crisis worse.
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Speaker 4: Simply condones and encourages the sort of anti Israel sentiment
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Speaker 4: we've seen on the streets which is becoming very quickly
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Speaker 4: anti Semitic and anti Jewish as well. So I think
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Speaker 4: it was a particularly ill timed intervention by the Foreign Minister,
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Speaker 4: and I think she should be much more careful with
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Speaker 4: her language, given she is Australia's chief dipplotment well.
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Speaker 2: Alban easy there rejecting those comments from Dave Sharma and others.
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister today also wouldn't admit that we're in
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Speaker 2: an anti Semitism crisis. He was directly asked that question
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Speaker 2: and he again spoke about going to a bar mitzvah
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Speaker 2: and shah, but as if he's only just found out
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Speaker 2: about these Jewish traditions.
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Speaker 3: On Saturday, I visited a synagogue. I went to my
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Speaker 3: first bar mitzvah there in Perth. There was a criticism
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Speaker 3: I've seen that we didn't go with media. It was
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Speaker 3: Shabbat of respect for the Jewish faith.
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Speaker 2: And he first made that bar mitzvah comment when he
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Speaker 2: turned up to the site of the terror attack, and
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Speaker 2: it was one of the very first things he said,
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Speaker 2: instead of expressing sorrow for what the community there is
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Speaker 2: going through.
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Speaker 3: I went to my first bar Mitzvah on Saturday.
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Speaker 2: I mean, come on, day in, day out. For months,
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Speaker 2: we've been begging for leadership on social cohesion, on anti Semitism.
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Speaker 2: Holocaust survivors in Josh Fridenberg's documentary implored alban easy to act.
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Speaker 2: That was five months ago. But now anti Semitism is
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Speaker 2: well and truly out of the box. It's exploding, and
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Speaker 2: finally the Prime Minister knows he has to stop it.
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Speaker 2: But how do you stop it at this point? I
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Speaker 2: truly don't know. And I have to say it made
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Speaker 2: my stomach turn when I first saw this pro Palestinian
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Speaker 2: prime minister, who's made horrible accusations against Israel his entire career,
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Speaker 2: standing in the Holocaust Museum for a political press conference,
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Speaker 2: for political point scoring. It really made me feel uncomfortable,
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Speaker 2: even queasy. But I know the Sydney Jewish Museum is
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Speaker 2: the best place for those who need an education on
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Speaker 2: anti Semitism, and boy and Albanesi certainly does. After touring
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Speaker 2: the Holocaust Museum, he finally took the right tone, But
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Speaker 2: he took a very different tone at a private labor
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Speaker 2: function and he was caught on tape boasting about making
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Speaker 2: the Jewish community even more upset as he went on
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Speaker 2: to flag further changes in Australia's Israel position, and I
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Speaker 2: presume this will be at the United Nations, possibly overnight tonight.
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Speaker 2: This is what Criikee Daniel Seed reported. He said in
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Speaker 2: an audio recording heard by Criikee. Albanezy said some people
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Speaker 2: have got a bit upset. They'll be more upset by Thursday,
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Speaker 2: signaling a future announcement on Australia's position on the conflict.
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Speaker 2: The Prime Minister said there was criticism from a leader
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Speaker 2: on the other side of the world about our stance
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Speaker 2: in the Middle East, but that we make no apologies
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Speaker 2: for standing for two states in the Middle East, the
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Speaker 2: right of Israel to exist and the right of Palestinians,
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Speaker 2: after which he received strong applause in the room and
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Speaker 2: then criik He also reported this, and I quote a
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Speaker 2: source in the room told Criikee that every staff in
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Speaker 2: the room winced as Albanzi declared an apparent new position
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Speaker 2: on Palestine on stage at the event WOW. At the
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Speaker 2: same time that the Prime Minister tries to make amends
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Speaker 2: with the Jewish community for his disregard for rising anti Semitism.
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Speaker 2: His foreign minister and his government is still demonizing Israel,
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Speaker 2: and he turns up in an event and says that
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Speaker 2: we're going to all be even more upset, caught on
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Speaker 2: tape saying it.
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Speaker 5: So.
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Speaker 2: At the same time as these anti Semitic attacks are happening,
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Speaker 2: the Albanze government appears to be continuing its campaign of
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Speaker 2: aggression towards Israel. And here's another shocking example. I can
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Speaker 2: exclusively reveal that the Albanezi government is officially asking many
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Speaker 2: Israeli visitors to Australia if they've committed war crimes. It's outrageous.
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Speaker 2: Tony Burke's Department of Home Affairs has been sending a
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Speaker 2: questionnaire to many Israeli visitors to ask them, and I'm
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Speaker 2: quoting from the official form that I have a copy of.
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Speaker 2: It says, have you ever participated in the crime of genocide,
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Speaker 2: a crime against humanity or a war crime? And then
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Speaker 2: there's a section where you can write details of your
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Speaker 2: involvement in war crimes and who issued the orders to
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Speaker 2: commit these war crimes. It also asks in the form
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Speaker 2: have you ever been a witness of war crimes or
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Speaker 2: a crime against humanity? Have you ever participated in a
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Speaker 2: war or armed conflict in any way, and it asks
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Speaker 2: the gain for details and leave space for how the
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Speaker 2: individuals involved. This is just someone wanting to visit Australia
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Speaker 2: this question as well. Have you ever participated in any
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Speaker 2: physical or psychological abuse against prisoners or civilians? Have you
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Speaker 2: ever participated in the capture of civilians in a war
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Speaker 2: or an art conflict? And DEFAT is also asking for
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Speaker 2: full details sorry Home affairs not DEFAT is also asking
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Speaker 2: for full details of military training and service to the army. Now,
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Speaker 2: this form isn't specific to Israel. It can be sent
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Speaker 2: to any country where the department feels that it needs
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Speaker 2: more information about a person's military service. But the issue
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Speaker 2: is in Israel, military service is compulsory for all young
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Speaker 2: Israelis and people who often travel from Israel to Australia
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Speaker 2: and have done so for years. They've never had to
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Speaker 2: fill this out before. Now they're being asked to. Now
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Speaker 2: many people have contacted me about this, but one family
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Speaker 2: in particular has a terrible story. An Australian Holocaust survivor
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Speaker 2: will celebrate her one hundredth birthday in a few weeks time,
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Speaker 2: and she wanted to be surrounded by her children, her grandchildren,
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Speaker 2: and her great grandchildren, but some of them live in Israel,
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Speaker 2: and two family members have not been granted visas to
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Speaker 2: enter Australia because of their military service in the Israeli
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Speaker 2: Defense Force. Again it's compulsory for all young Israelis. So
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Speaker 2: this Australian Holocaust survivor, her twenty one year old great
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Speaker 2: granddaughter didn't get a visa and then has had to
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Speaker 2: now go back to the army her leave right out.
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Speaker 2: She may never get to see her great grandmother again.
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Speaker 2: At one hundred, you just don't know how much time
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Speaker 2: you have left now. The second family member is currently
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Speaker 2: stranded in Thailand. He's been there for two weeks. The
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Speaker 2: family has been frantically calling Tony Burk's office to no
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Speaker 2: avail for weeks. Now they're left in Limbo. So Albanzi
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Speaker 2: stands up at the Holocaust Museum to speak about antisemitism today,
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Speaker 2: But this is how his government is treating a Holocaust
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Speaker 2: survivor who's an Australian citizen. At the very moment. The
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Speaker 2: Albanese government claims that it cares about antisemitism. It's asking
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Speaker 2: visitors from Israel if they've committed war crimes. This is
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Speaker 2: an inconsistent and contradictory position that shows the extent of
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Speaker 2: their moral confusion. The Albanese government is still acting in
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Speaker 2: a hostile way, depriving a Holocaust survivor of spending her
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Speaker 2: one hundredth birthday with her family. Now, today Albanzi walked
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Speaker 2: and he spoke alongside little shoes and items of clothing
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Speaker 2: left behind by Jews killed in the Holocaust. He used
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Speaker 2: the holocaus Cost Museum for political purposes. He needs to
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Speaker 2: back up his serious and solemn words with action. He
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Speaker 2: needs to stop demonizing Israel and Jewish families. Now, I'm
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Speaker 2: going to be joined by David Ossip a bit later
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Speaker 2: to speak about this issue and Albanese's two of the
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Speaker 2: Holocaust Museum today. But as I said, a big show tonight,
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Speaker 2: my exclusive interview with Israeli singer of Eurovision Edon Galan,
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Speaker 2: She's a global superstar. That's coming up later in the show.
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Speaker 2: Kosher Gada will be on to speak about Trump's new
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Speaker 2: business endeavor, Daniel Malino, Michael Souoka as well. We're going
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Speaker 2: to get to all of that. But now let's bring
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Speaker 2: in my favorite Wednesday panel, former Victorian Liberal Party president
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Speaker 2: Michael Kroger and former Labor Minister Graham Richardson. Welcome to
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Speaker 2: you both. Michael Kroger, what are your thoughts on everything
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Speaker 2: I've just had to say and Albanesi's belated attempt to
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Speaker 2: I with this crisis.
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Speaker 6: Well, I'm shocked at your revelation, but I think it's
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Speaker 6: time for this blake to resign. I mean, he's doing
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Speaker 6: permanent damage to this country. He wanders around Jewish institutions
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Speaker 6: railing against antisemitism. This is a bloke who hasn't visited
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Speaker 6: Israel since October seven, who didn't direct his foreign minister
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Speaker 6: to visit the kid would see him and the Navy
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Speaker 6: Music's festival site, who personally hasn't been to Israel. He's
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Speaker 6: such a friend of Israel. He hasn't been there for
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Speaker 6: a quarter of a century. In eighteen and nineteen he
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Speaker 6: had three meetings when he had three meetings with a
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Speaker 6: notorious anti semit Jeremy Corbyn, allowed himself to be photographed
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Speaker 6: with Corbyn. He wants to arrest the Israeli Prime minister
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Speaker 6: if he comes to this country. He couldn't wait to
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Speaker 6: restore funding to UNRA, despite the fact that there hadn't
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Speaker 6: been an investigation finished. He changed the designation of the
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Speaker 6: capital from West Jerusalem. He allowed three thousand residents of
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Speaker 6: Gaza to come to Australia. He told the Israeli government
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Speaker 6: not to go into Lebanon. He called for a ceasefire
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Speaker 6: repeatedly between Israel and the terrorist organization Hamas. He happily
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Speaker 6: was photographed with the Assa Arrafat when he was younger. Well,
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Speaker 6: let's forgive him for that, because he was on a
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Speaker 6: PLA tour. He misleads the country about Green preferences. Let's
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Speaker 6: be very clear. He has the swing vote on the
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Speaker 6: federal executive. Labour Party ten left, ten right and him
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Speaker 6: he has a swing vote. Elbows asked, Oh, he says, oh,
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Speaker 6: it's a matter if they will. No, he is the organization,
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Speaker 6: the federal executive. It's his decision whether Labor give preferences
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Speaker 6: to the Greens or other parties. And Honored Goes refused
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Speaker 6: to hold a judicial inquiry into antisemitism, the disgraceful Jewish
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Speaker 6: hatred on a university campuses. Jillian Siegel, who we appointed
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Speaker 6: as the cam and then just completely ignored her, refused
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Speaker 6: a visa to a former Israeli minister allows four of
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Speaker 6: his front bingers to trash the Bob Hawk tradition just
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Speaker 6: so they can say their seats in Sydney.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: No, he's a real friend of Israel and he's seriously
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Speaker 6: opposed to Andy sism. This blake who took six months
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Speaker 6: to clear extremists away from his own office. If he
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Speaker 6: can't get these Andy Semitic anti Jewish racists away from
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Speaker 6: his own office for six months, what hope of the
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Speaker 6: Jewish community got? Chari?
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Speaker 2: You put it so well, Michael, when you detail the
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Speaker 2: extent of the past here, and I'm sure there would
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Speaker 2: be other examples better.
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Speaker 6: Well, that's half. That's about half of it. That's about
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Speaker 6: half of it, Charry. There's a lot more of there.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there were stories that I had even forgotten
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Speaker 2: that photograph with Arafat, you know, I broke that on
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Speaker 2: the show completely had forgotten about that. There's just so
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Speaker 2: much material here. Rich Oh, we know you're a made
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Speaker 2: of elbows before you start defending him, but come on,
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Speaker 2: Richro I mean, he is standing there at the Holocaust
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Speaker 2: Museum today at the same time you've had ed Husick
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Speaker 2: out this week speaking about Islamophobia. The same with other
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Speaker 2: ministers as well. Penny Wong still criticizing Israel. Apparently just
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Speaker 2: tonight we're expecting another hostile vote at the United Nations.
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Speaker 2: He's got to pull his cabinet into line if he
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Speaker 2: is serious about this issue. What do you think, rich O,
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Speaker 2: I think.
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Speaker 5: We have been a little loose, shall we say, on
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Speaker 5: the subject of Israel. I think overwhelmingly Australian support the
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Speaker 5: right of Israel to exist within safe and secure borders.
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Speaker 5: Overwhelmingly we do, and so it's only a very small
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Speaker 5: minority who don't. And if you side with that small minority,
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Speaker 5: you take a very big political risk, certainly not one
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Speaker 5: that I'd take. But it's not just about polling and
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Speaker 5: who wins elections. It's about principle as well. And the
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Speaker 5: principle involved here is absolutely clear, and we have nowhere
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Speaker 5: to go as a civilized nation except to continue to
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Speaker 5: support the right of Israel to exist with safety and
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Speaker 5: secure borders.
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Speaker 2: Richard, I just want to ask you what's happened to
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Speaker 2: Mark Dreyfus and Richard Marz. What has happened to the
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Speaker 2: labor right that traditionally has been a friend of Israel.
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Speaker 5: Yes, when you say that labor right. I've been somewhat
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Speaker 5: associated with the labor right for a few years and
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Speaker 5: I know a New South Wales conferences year after year
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Speaker 5: after year, we maintained very strong support for Israel. We
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Speaker 5: never weakened And as far as I'm concerned, Miles is
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Speaker 5: in the same category. He's never weakened in his support.
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Speaker 2: Just in his just in his power and his character.
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Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think that you know, there's only
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Speaker 5: so much one man can do. But I think Miles
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Speaker 5: has been pretty good. I'm not going to criticize Miles for.
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Speaker 2: Where are they Why aren't they speaking out?
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Speaker 5: Well, I suppose that they could get out a bit more.
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Speaker 5: I think Australia and the Australian Labor Party have done
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Speaker 5: so much over so long. I think people know where
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Speaker 5: we stand.
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Speaker 2: I don't know about that. I don't know about that, Michael.
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Speaker 2: And then what about the ABC. You might have heard
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Speaker 2: this already, but the host of ABC Radio Sydney's breakfast
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Speaker 2: program asked New South I was Premier Chris Mins today,
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Speaker 2: if this was really an anti Semitic incident, and if
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Speaker 2: it was merely a political stance, have.
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Speaker 8: A look just on your wording, in your statements this morning.
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Speaker 8: What's your reasoning for branding the attack anti Semitic and
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Speaker 8: not anti Israel? How do you make a distinction?
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think we would have to be willful
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Speaker 4: at this point to turn a blind eye to that
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Speaker 4: sequence of event and suggested to anything other than an
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Speaker 4: anti Semitic attack.
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Speaker 8: So if you're calling it anti Semitic rather than just
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Speaker 8: a political anti Israel statement, what you've been in public
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Speaker 8: life a long time is would you say anti semitism?
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Speaker 8: Is that an all time high in your experience?
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Speaker 7: Yes?
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Speaker 2: I would. And then, just very quickly, as Chris, can
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Speaker 2: you point it out that ABC has also suggested there's
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Speaker 2: two sides to anti semitism. Look at this, none of
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Speaker 2: that plays out at all.
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Speaker 9: Well, but you know, the government's record is that they
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Speaker 9: have moved on a whole range of fronts to try
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Speaker 9: to crack down on anti hate speech of all sorts,
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Speaker 9: but it has also been trying to maintain some sort
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Speaker 9: of middle path so that you know, there are two
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Speaker 9: sides in this dispute, and they've been trying to not
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Speaker 9: inflame the situation.
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Speaker 2: Michael, That's pretty appalling, isn't it, Charie?
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Speaker 6: What can you say? I mean, don't forget. This is
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Speaker 6: an organization who, during the First Goal War had as
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Speaker 6: their independent commentator on the Middle East the secretary of
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Speaker 6: the Australian Iraq Friendship Society. They didn't realize he was
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Speaker 6: that until after the war was over. I mean, the
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Speaker 6: anti Israel bias at the ABC is shocking. It's disgraceful.
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Speaker 6: We know who's behind it, one of their national international correspondents.
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Speaker 6: It's been going on for years and it's disgusting. Is
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Speaker 6: what is good news is that all of these people
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Speaker 6: are being exposed. One by one, these racists who are
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Speaker 6: at these some of these demonstrations with with with Palestini,
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Speaker 6: with with Hesblah flags, with Nazi symbols, yelling out Hamma slogans, journalists,
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Speaker 6: you know, One by one, a lot of these people
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Speaker 6: are being exposed. A lot of these people who are
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Speaker 6: at the demonstration down near jeff Shed, the Military Forces exhibition,
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Speaker 6: who've had their photographs in the paper, the droom left
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Speaker 6: any Jewish members of the arts community. Bit by a bit,
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Speaker 6: one by one, people are realizing that out from under
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Speaker 6: these rocks of civilization are these Jewish hating racists who
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Speaker 6: have been sitting there quietly waiting for opportunity, and the
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Speaker 6: good news is the majority of the country in the
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Speaker 6: world are turning on them, saying we don't want that
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Speaker 6: type of division, we don't want that type of racism
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Speaker 6: in this country. People have come be for a peaceful,
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Speaker 6: happy life with their families. They love the Australian values,
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Speaker 6: they hate this type of division. And I have to
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Speaker 6: say Senator Jane Hume said this morning that the weakness
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Speaker 6: of the Albanese government had in bold and certain people
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Speaker 6: in this country. And I got to say Senator Jane
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Speaker 6: Hume was absolutely correct.
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Speaker 2: Indeed she was Graham just before we go. I want
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Speaker 2: to get your summer prediction. Is this going to be
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Speaker 2: a reset that the prime minister needs over the summer months,
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Speaker 2: over the Christmas period or do you think, as so
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Speaker 2: often happens, there'll be some news event, whether it's blackout
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Speaker 2: or something out, something else, and that this period will
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Speaker 2: be the death now politically for the prime minister.
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Speaker 5: Oh, I don't think there's going to be the death
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Speaker 5: knell no matter what happens over the course of the break.
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Speaker 5: I think GOALBO is a bit better than that, a
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Speaker 5: bit stronger. But you know, look, every political party has
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Speaker 5: good times and bad times. You go up, you go down.
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Speaker 5: You don't just stay like that at the top of
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Speaker 5: the tree. You know occasionally you're going to slip, but
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Speaker 5: you don't regard that slip as the end of the earth.
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Speaker 5: And we haven't had a great few weeks. So what
23:35
Speaker 5: life goes on and next week will be better.
23:38
Speaker 2: But this downward trend has been since the Vice, so
23:41
Speaker 2: it's not just a brief down period. This has been
23:43
Speaker 2: for over a year now. And the Resolve poll this
23:46
Speaker 2: week had your primary at twenty seven percent. Doesn't that
23:49
Speaker 2: worry you Richard?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I've been worried before that today about our primary.
23:54
Speaker 5: Our primary has been getting outrageously low, and now if
24:00
Speaker 5: we don't get thirty percent, we're in all sorts of strife.
24:04
Speaker 5: But I can remember and it's not that long ago
24:07
Speaker 5: where we'd be terribly disappointed if we didn't get forty percent.
24:11
Speaker 5: So you've got to say, what happened? Something very big did?
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Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, Well, the labor going woke, that's what happened.
24:19
Speaker 2: You need to return to mainstream values growing Richardson and
24:23
Speaker 2: Michael Kroger, can I say it's been a pleasure having
24:25
Speaker 2: you doing this political panel, this year. I love speaking
24:29
Speaker 2: and sparring with both of you. Really appreciate your time
24:32
Speaker 2: over the course of the year and look forward to
24:34
Speaker 2: doing it all again next year. All right, I'm joined
24:38
Speaker 2: now by the President of the New South Wales Jewish
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Speaker 2: Board of Deputies, David Ossip. David, thank you for your time. Look,
24:45
Speaker 2: I want to speak about this incident that we all
24:48
Speaker 2: woke up to today. What do we know so far
24:51
Speaker 2: about what happened in the early hours of this morning.
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Speaker 10: Well, thank you so much having me on the show,
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Speaker 10: Sharry and at the outset. Let me just congratulate you
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Speaker 10: outstanding editorial and you're extraordinary reporting over the past fourteen months.
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Speaker 2: Thank you.
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Speaker 10: In relation to the incident which transpied in Willara overnight,
25:08
Speaker 10: we know that at least two individuals in the early
25:10
Speaker 10: hours of the morning drove to Alara, got out of
25:14
Speaker 10: their vehicle, dorbed houses and cars with anti Symitic graffiti
25:17
Speaker 10: and then set their current fire and cowardly fled the scene. Obviously,
25:22
Speaker 10: the police are still investigating. We welcome the resources that
25:27
Speaker 10: the New Suporal's government and police have thrown at this
25:29
Speaker 10: investigation and we hope that the perpetrators who are responsible
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Speaker 10: for this hate crime are swiftly apprehended in the same
25:36
Speaker 10: way that the individuals who allegedly committed a similar current
25:39
Speaker 10: crime in Willara a couple of weeks ago were apprehended.
25:44
Speaker 2: You how to press conference with the Premier Chris Mins
25:46
Speaker 2: this morning, but I noticed you weren't at the Holocaust
25:50
Speaker 2: Museum this afternoon with Alban Easy. Are we seeing a
25:53
Speaker 2: tale of two leaders here, Shari?
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Speaker 10: You are correct. I was with the Premier this morning.
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Speaker 10: I didn't attend the Jewish Museum with the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 10: Whilst I have the greatest of respect for the office
26:08
Speaker 10: of Prime Minister and I'm grateful for the money which
26:11
Speaker 10: they've given this in the Jewish Museum, I couldn't bring
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Speaker 10: myself to go and hear the Prime Minister talk about
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Speaker 10: anti Semitism whilst his government continues to plot further policy
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Speaker 10: moves against the State of Israel, and whilst he fails
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Speaker 10: to reign in his foreign minister who continues to use incensury,
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Speaker 10: demonizing and provocative rhetoric which, in my opinion, endangers the
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Speaker 10: Jewish community. And you're entirely right. It is very much
26:36
Speaker 10: a tale of two leaders, because the response of Chrisbans
26:39
Speaker 10: and the state government couldn't have been any stronger. He
26:43
Speaker 10: was on the phone to me in the early hours
26:45
Speaker 10: of the morning. He expressed solidarity with the Jewish community.
26:48
Speaker 10: He called the Israeli ambassador, he immediately coordinated additional security
26:52
Speaker 10: resources for the community, and he dropped everything on his
26:55
Speaker 10: plate to go to Wallara immediately to demonstrate his absolute
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Speaker 10: abhorrence at what had taken place. And this has been
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Speaker 10: the approach he's demonstrated over the past fourteen months. He's
27:07
Speaker 10: been there every single time, strong and unequivocal, standing side
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Speaker 10: by side with the Jewish community. And I think the
27:13
Speaker 10: Prime Minister and his colleagues would do very well to
27:17
Speaker 10: learn from Premier ins.
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Speaker 2: That was a very strong answer, David assert How frustrated
27:23
Speaker 2: is the Jewish community at this point with the Albanezy government,
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Speaker 2: including and you mentioned Penny Wang and her criticism of Israel,
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Speaker 2: So what's your view on this as well?
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Speaker 1: Well?
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Speaker 10: I think the Jewish community is extremely frustrated and upset.
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Speaker 10: This is a federal government which is sat in its
27:42
Speaker 10: hands and been slow to act on anti Semitism for
27:45
Speaker 10: the whole of the past fourteen months. It's a government
27:48
Speaker 10: which has seemed more determined to demonize and abandon Israel
27:52
Speaker 10: and played domestic politics, then deal with the crisis of
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Speaker 10: social cohesion and anti Semitism which has fested on its watch.
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Speaker 10: It's a situation which has gotten worse, not better. And
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Speaker 10: now after fourteen months, we're at a crisis point and
28:06
Speaker 10: the Jewish community has been jumping up and down and
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Speaker 10: warning the government throughout this period and it's not a
28:12
Speaker 10: surprise that we've now lunded up in a position like this,
28:15
Speaker 10: and the Jewish community is understandably very disappointed with the
28:18
Speaker 10: government and concerns about their safety and well being.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Indeed, all right, David Assib, President of the New
28:24
Speaker 2: South Wales Jewish Board of Deputies, really appreciate your leadership
28:28
Speaker 2: of our community at this very difficult time.
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
28:32
Speaker 2: Now still to come Global superstar Eden Golan, she was
28:35
Speaker 2: heckled at Eurovision. She joins me on the program. Plus
28:39
Speaker 2: Albinizi takes at NewsCorp as he tries to shift the
28:42
Speaker 2: blame for his week leadership. I'm going to speak about
28:45
Speaker 2: that with my political panel after this quick break. Welcome back. Well,
28:53
Speaker 2: let's bring in now Shadow Housing Minister Michael Souker and
28:57
Speaker 2: Labour MP Daniel Melino. Welcome to you both. The Herald
29:01
Speaker 2: reports that Anthony Albinizi has told colleagues during a meeting
29:05
Speaker 2: that News Corp is openly working to back in Peter Dutton.
29:10
Speaker 2: So this seems to be the Prime Minister very clearly
29:13
Speaker 2: blaming the media for criticism of his own week leadership.
29:17
Speaker 2: It seems to be copying tactics used by his buddy
29:20
Speaker 2: Kevin Rudd. But he conveniently ignores the criticism from many
29:25
Speaker 2: other media outlets, including The Herald, and including The Nightly
29:29
Speaker 2: and The West Australia. Have a look at these front pages,
29:32
Speaker 2: not ours absolutely smashing alban Easy, especially in the wake
29:38
Speaker 2: of his shocking handling of anti Semitism. Daniel Moline, I
29:42
Speaker 2: want to start with you. Do you agree with the
29:44
Speaker 2: Prime Minister here that this is all a big news
29:47
Speaker 2: cop campaign to side with Peter Dutton.
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Speaker 11: Well, Shari, Look, I always take stories based on leaks
29:56
Speaker 11: with a bit of a grain of salt, and I
29:59
Speaker 11: go back to PM's actions rather than these purported words.
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Speaker 11: He's appeared on various News Corp outlets, including Sky a
30:09
Speaker 11: significant number of times and indeed more than a number
30:13
Speaker 11: of competitor outlets. So look, he's engaged with news Corp
30:16
Speaker 11: throughout this term and before that, and I think just
30:20
Speaker 11: look at his actions. I think he's engaged very very broadly. Look,
30:25
Speaker 11: I think, as you say, you look right across the media.
30:27
Speaker 11: I mean, part of the job of the media is
30:29
Speaker 11: to hold the government to account. So I just think
30:33
Speaker 11: our job as members of the government is to engage
30:36
Speaker 11: to explain.
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Speaker 2: What we're doing.
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Speaker 11: And you know, I'm one of a number of backbencheres
30:40
Speaker 11: who appears on this channel and engages with other news
30:43
Speaker 11: Corp outlets, print and Electronics, So I.
30:46
Speaker 2: Don't frankly, yeah, and there aren't many Daniel Labor and
30:50
Speaker 2: peas who turn up. So good on you for that,
30:52
Speaker 2: Michael Suka. Should the Prime Minister be blaming the media
30:56
Speaker 2: for his pole leadership, particularly on this critical issue, Well,
31:01
Speaker 2: of course he shouldn't.
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Speaker 12: And there's nothing more unedifying than a prime minister having
31:05
Speaker 12: asook about the media. The truth is that Anthony Alberinezi's
31:11
Speaker 12: prime ministership is crumbling, not through anything that the media
31:15
Speaker 12: has done, but through his own actions, through firstly his
31:19
Speaker 12: lies before the last election, the promises he made Austraians
31:22
Speaker 12: before the last election that he can't keep his lack
31:27
Speaker 12: of focus when Australians are struggling and worse, struggling to
31:32
Speaker 12: the rent, pay their mortgage, by their groceries. He was
31:36
Speaker 12: off on a frolic with his half a billion dollar referendum.
31:41
Speaker 12: And now we see probably the worst failure of leadership
31:45
Speaker 12: that we've probably seen from a national leader in living memory,
31:47
Speaker 12: and that is the shocking way in which the Australian
31:52
Speaker 12: Jewish community, quite frankly, has been thrown to the walls
31:55
Speaker 12: by this government and by this Prime Minister by decisions
31:59
Speaker 12: and votes you in, by decisions and in action being
32:03
Speaker 12: made by the Cabinet, and most recently highlighted by the
32:10
Speaker 12: spectacle of a Prime Minister trying to talk down a
32:15
Speaker 12: domestic terrorism event that was very clear to everyone. I'm
32:18
Speaker 12: sure it was clear to Daniel who's a decent labor person,
32:22
Speaker 12: but he was unable to call that out instinctively in
32:27
Speaker 12: defense of Australian Jews. Because the truth is Anthony Albanese
32:32
Speaker 12: is not a leader. He doesn't have that instinctive ability
32:35
Speaker 12: to make the right cause. And you compare that to
32:38
Speaker 12: Peter Dutton. Peter Dutton is steadfast, he knows what he
32:44
Speaker 12: stands for, and I think it was a great example
32:47
Speaker 12: of contrasting a leader in Peter Dutton and a failed
32:52
Speaker 12: leader in Anthony Albanesi in the way they responded to
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Speaker 12: Peter caught it out straight away and the way in
32:59
Speaker 12: which the Australie JE community has been treated by this
33:02
Speaker 12: government since seven has been appalling. And it falls on
33:07
Speaker 12: Anthony Albanezi. His choice of Foreign Minister in Penny Wong,
33:10
Speaker 12: who likens Israel to China and Russia. A democracy she
33:15
Speaker 12: likens to China and Russia. He's got wear all of
33:18
Speaker 12: that and he should be ashamed of himself and not
33:21
Speaker 12: in any way try to deflect responsibility by blaming the media.
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Speaker 2: Very well, said Michael. Look, it does seem like we're
33:29
Speaker 2: in an election campaign mode now. The Prime Minister making
33:32
Speaker 2: this childcare announcement today splashing four hundred and twenty seven
33:36
Speaker 2: million dollars to give families earning up to half a
33:40
Speaker 2: million dollars a year access to the subsidy three days
33:43
Speaker 2: a week. Daniel, Is this money necessary? Is this just
33:47
Speaker 2: buying votes?
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Speaker 7: Oh?
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Speaker 11: Look, I think this is a really important area of
33:53
Speaker 11: reform and we can go back to a Productivity Commission
33:56
Speaker 11: report in twenty fifteen that was actually commissioned and handed
34:00
Speaker 11: down under the previous government, and that Productivity Commission report
34:04
Speaker 11: found that these kinds of measures can be important for
34:07
Speaker 11: workforce participation, but they're also really important when it comes
34:11
Speaker 11: to young children's development and their preparation for school.
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Speaker 1: It has really.
34:15
Speaker 11: Important impacts in terms of education and also their social development.
34:19
Speaker 1: And what this.
34:20
Speaker 11: Measure does is it provides much greater access for a
34:23
Speaker 11: broader range of families to these important services. This measure
34:27
Speaker 11: provides universal three day access, but it also provides important
34:31
Speaker 11: measures on the supply side. So it leads to the
34:34
Speaker 11: construction of one hundred and sixty new setters and twelve
34:36
Speaker 11: thousand extra spots. And the last thing I'll say on
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Speaker 11: this is that this is another reform in a series
34:44
Speaker 11: of reforms in this space, many of which so far
34:47
Speaker 11: have dealt with the supply side. So we've added training
34:50
Speaker 11: investments to fee free TAFE to add to the workforce
34:55
Speaker 11: in this area. We've also undertaken a range of other measures,
34:59
Speaker 11: including ho pay to attract workers to the area. A
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Speaker 11: number of the supply side measures that we've undertaken in
35:04
Speaker 11: this space have been opposed by the opposition, so this
35:07
Speaker 11: is important reforms and I think it's a critical area
35:10
Speaker 11: of microeconomic reform.
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Speaker 2: Very quickly, Michael, because we're out of time. Does the
35:15
Speaker 2: coalition plan to match this announcement?
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Speaker 12: Well, it's interesting that Daniel refers to the Productivity Commission.
35:22
Speaker 12: These proposal seeks to get rid of the activity test,
35:26
Speaker 12: which just means that parents who are working, or studying
35:29
Speaker 12: or volunteering, they are going to find it harder and
35:32
Speaker 12: harder to find places because with these new arrangements will
35:36
Speaker 12: see the existing existing centers being swamped with even more
35:45
Speaker 12: demand which they can't meet, which just means that Australian
35:48
Speaker 12: parents who are working, or studying or volunteering, I'm more
35:52
Speaker 12: likely to miss out. And we already know there are
35:53
Speaker 12: many people who are struggling to find places for their children.
35:56
Speaker 12: This will exacerbate that problem. And I think we'll see
35:59
Speaker 12: this between now in the election, a very desperate prime
36:02
Speaker 12: minister throwing money around left rn center in order to
36:06
Speaker 12: win votes, to try and detract or distract from the
36:10
Speaker 12: abysmal way in which this government has managed the economy
36:13
Speaker 12: and quite frankly, the abysmal way that this Prime minister
36:16
Speaker 12: is leading the country.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this is what economists are worrying about too
36:20
Speaker 2: much money spashed around pre election, although of course there
36:23
Speaker 2: is the argument of productivity. Daniel Malino, Michael Suga really
36:27
Speaker 2: appreciate you coming on tonight. Now coming up after the break,
36:30
Speaker 2: we turn to the US, which is gripped by this
36:33
Speaker 2: awful murder of the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, and
36:37
Speaker 2: somehow the killers being celebrated. I'll see about that with
36:40
Speaker 2: Kosher Garda next, and later my exclusive with Israeli Eurovision
36:44
Speaker 2: singer Eden Golan her thoughts on what we're going through,
36:48
Speaker 2: her message for battling the hate, don't miss that, and
36:55
Speaker 2: Sky News contributor Kosher Garda joins us. Now, Kosha, great
36:59
Speaker 2: to see you. Look, I want to ask you about
37:02
Speaker 2: the man chatged with the brazen murder of United Healthcare
37:05
Speaker 2: CEO Brian Thompson. Look, he's become Luigi Mangioni. He's become
37:11
Speaker 2: some viral sensation. What is wrong with the world when
37:16
Speaker 2: a murderer is traded as a hero.
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Speaker 7: You know, a great point, Shari, and I think it's
37:23
Speaker 7: a sign that we, in many ways really have become
37:25
Speaker 7: a sick society, at least parts of society where somebody
37:29
Speaker 7: like this who did something that we haven't seen in
37:31
Speaker 7: a long time, like an actual assassination in broad daylight.
37:35
Speaker 7: Trump was obviously attempted but dodged it, but this actually
37:38
Speaker 7: was successful. And that to have a corporate CEO, which
37:42
Speaker 7: is not a typical target that you would expect or
37:44
Speaker 7: have seen historically. This is a very serious subject and
37:47
Speaker 7: for people to be talking about his looks, his physical profile,
37:51
Speaker 7: all of that is sick. And then there's also been
37:53
Speaker 7: this whole other strain of people who are heralding him
37:56
Speaker 7: as some sort of hero for taking out the CEO
38:00
Speaker 7: of a healthcare company because a lot of Americans are
38:02
Speaker 7: frustrated with the insurance system over there. This is obviously
38:05
Speaker 7: not the remedy for that. You've even seen people like
38:07
Speaker 7: Taylor Lorenz, who was a mainstream media reporter, was going
38:10
Speaker 7: on Piers Morgan the other night cheering about it. I
38:13
Speaker 7: really think it's a sign of a sick society and
38:15
Speaker 7: something has to turn around, because this is not the
38:17
Speaker 7: appropriate response.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it's utterly bisign. You worry it as well about
38:21
Speaker 2: the safety of other chief executives, and I'm sure there'll
38:24
Speaker 2: be others who would be thinking maybe they need security
38:27
Speaker 2: now on their way home and that would be understandable kosher. Meanwhile,
38:32
Speaker 2: Daniel Penny found not guilty for the death of a
38:35
Speaker 2: homeless man on a New York City subway.
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Speaker 7: Tell us about this, Yeah, so this is another It's
38:42
Speaker 7: almost like the flip side of the coin of the
38:44
Speaker 7: Luigi case that we just talked about.
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Speaker 1: We're here.
38:46
Speaker 7: You have Daniel Penny, who was a former marine of
38:50
Speaker 7: the United States Marine Corps, a veteran, and he subdued
38:54
Speaker 7: somebody who was very aggressive order nearly on the subway
38:57
Speaker 7: through multiple witnesses who were saying that he was terrible,
39:00
Speaker 7: rising or menacing them. They were terrified for their lives. However,
39:03
Speaker 7: he Daniel Penny, was charged and over the past year
39:05
Speaker 7: he's been awaiting his trial and the jury has spoken
39:09
Speaker 7: where they were not able to reach unanimous verdict of
39:12
Speaker 7: convicting him. I think this is a great day for
39:14
Speaker 7: the jury system and the administration of justice because nobody,
39:18
Speaker 7: based on the evidence, believed and certainly the jury didn't
39:21
Speaker 7: believe that the evidence stood up to the charge, which
39:23
Speaker 7: was reckless homicide. That the standard just wasn't met. But
39:27
Speaker 7: I will say it's worth mentioning that the fact that
39:29
Speaker 7: it came this close is quite scary because New York
39:32
Speaker 7: City is a place where crime has been up. All
39:34
Speaker 7: sorts of people are not being charged or they're being
39:36
Speaker 7: given very generous plea deals, including Jordan Neeli himself being
39:39
Speaker 7: let out on the streets. And of course Alvin Bragg,
39:42
Speaker 7: the DA is the same person who went after Trump
39:44
Speaker 7: decided to bring this case, whereas other people are going
39:47
Speaker 7: scott free. So it's a little bit of upside down world.
39:49
Speaker 7: And that's another problem that needs to be sorted out
39:52
Speaker 7: just very quickly.
39:54
Speaker 2: This isn't brand new today, but I just want to
39:56
Speaker 2: ask you what is that with the president elect release
40:00
Speaker 2: his own perfume? What is this about? Why would you
40:03
Speaker 2: do this? Why does he need to do this?
40:07
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, he probably doesn't need to, but I
40:09
Speaker 7: have to say, it's like it's classic Trump, where he
40:12
Speaker 7: loves to seize the moment, even if he's somebody in
40:14
Speaker 7: a very serious position doing serious work. He sees us
40:17
Speaker 7: the moment. He loves to troll his opposition in his
40:20
Speaker 7: adversaries with the way he's marketed it. And you know,
40:23
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be surprised the man got seventy eight million votes.
40:25
Speaker 7: If even a good percentage of them decide to buy
40:27
Speaker 7: at this Christmas that it's going to challenge Chanelle number five,
40:31
Speaker 7: which is the most highest selling perfume of all time
40:33
Speaker 7: this year.
40:33
Speaker 1: Would be surprised if we see.
40:34
Speaker 2: That he continues to break them. Old of a politician anyway,
40:38
Speaker 2: it keeps things interesting. Koshagada, thank you so much. Really
40:40
Speaker 2: appreciate your time. Now, don't go anywhere. Global superstar Eden Golan.
40:45
Speaker 2: She overcame major security threats at Eurovision and now she
40:49
Speaker 2: has some advice on how to handle the haters. That
40:53
Speaker 2: interview is after this quick break. Well, most people may
41:00
Speaker 2: know Jewish singer Eden Golan from her incredible Eurovision performance
41:04
Speaker 2: this year. Her song Hurricane was a tribute to October seven.
41:22
Speaker 2: She was heckled bood and had major security threats. At
41:26
Speaker 2: just twenty one, Eden Golan has shown more leadership on antisemitism,
41:31
Speaker 2: and she's demanded stronger action on the hostage crisis than
41:35
Speaker 2: most people whose job it is to do so. She
41:38
Speaker 2: sets a truly wonderful example for how to withstand the hate.
41:41
Speaker 2: And I spoke with her about all of this a
41:44
Speaker 2: little earlier. Eden Golan is so wonderful to have you here.
41:48
Speaker 2: A huge welcome. You've been here in Australia for a
41:51
Speaker 2: few days, and I understand you're loving it and you're
41:54
Speaker 2: having a great time. You also, of course, couldn't help
41:58
Speaker 2: but notice that we're experiencing shocking anti semitism. The fire
42:03
Speaker 2: bombing of a synagogue in Melbourne that's now been officially
42:06
Speaker 2: declared a terror attack, and then just here in Sydney
42:09
Speaker 2: overnight there's been a car torching and more anti Semitic vandalism.
42:15
Speaker 2: How do you feel about this level of anti Semitism
42:19
Speaker 2: that we've seen erupting around the world, including in peaceful
42:23
Speaker 2: places like Australia.
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Speaker 1: It's tragic, It's truly tragic and.
42:29
Speaker 13: Heartbreaking, and I just don't want to accept.
42:33
Speaker 1: This reality, this dark, scary place.
42:38
Speaker 13: We're living in, and literally any place in this world
42:42
Speaker 13: right now could be a place of threat and danger
42:44
Speaker 13: for us, which is crazy to.
42:46
Speaker 1: Think about it.
42:48
Speaker 13: But I'm truly I'm so thankful for all the volunteers
42:51
Speaker 13: and here the CSG.
42:53
Speaker 1: There's a really security.
42:55
Speaker 13: Community Jewish community that takes care of the Jewish community
42:59
Speaker 13: and keeps people safe, and volunteers all over the world
43:03
Speaker 13: that take part in this and keeping our community as
43:07
Speaker 13: safe as possible and trying to stay away from these
43:10
Speaker 13: unpleasant situations.
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Speaker 2: We all watched you during Eurovision and you were heckled
43:16
Speaker 2: on stage, you were booed, You were trying to focus
43:19
Speaker 2: and do your job. I mean, how did you personally
43:22
Speaker 2: manage to drown out that level of noise and that
43:26
Speaker 2: level of hostility to deliver what was truly a sensational performance.
43:32
Speaker 1: Well, that wasn't an easy experience. I can't fly. I definitely.
43:38
Speaker 13: I mentally prepared myself to the event way before. From
43:44
Speaker 13: the moment I was selected to be Israel's representative for
43:48
Speaker 13: your vision, I was drawing myself scenarios and different situations
43:53
Speaker 13: that could happen, and getting boodh at and hatred and
43:57
Speaker 13: all of that.
43:59
Speaker 1: But I think mainly.
44:00
Speaker 13: The thing that kept me focused and on point was
44:06
Speaker 13: just a the life. I've been through, different situations and
44:09
Speaker 13: going through difficult things in life. That kind of built
44:12
Speaker 13: me to have elephant skin and not really let anything
44:15
Speaker 13: around me affect me. And also my goal, which was
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Speaker 13: to represent us with pride and do the best job
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Speaker 13: I can. I had a lot of weight on my
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Speaker 13: shoulders to be the voice of not only a country,
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Speaker 13: but an entire nation. And just that thought, that responsibility.
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Speaker 13: That's all I cared about. I didn't care about anything around.
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Speaker 13: I was just there to go on stage for three minutes,
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Speaker 13: show my voice and try to unite people and spread
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Speaker 13: some love. And I can truly say that our community,
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Speaker 13: our big family of Jewish people and israelis all over
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Speaker 13: the world. The amount of love and support I got
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Speaker 13: from them was truly insane, and I could never thank
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Speaker 13: them enough. There were such such a powerful thing that
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Speaker 13: kept me going through this journey, and still the amount
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Speaker 13: of love I'm getting to this day, it just keeps
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Speaker 13: me going. It makes me want to do even more
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Speaker 13: for us and for this world, and just show what
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Speaker 13: a beautiful nation we are.
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Speaker 2: Such a beautiful message that your ambition to spread love
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Speaker 2: like that, And I love when you said you have
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Speaker 2: elephant skin. I think we need a bit of elephant
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Speaker 2: skin during the times we're going through at the moment.
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Speaker 1: Definitely now.
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Speaker 2: The formatively your most famous song, Hurricane, the original version
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Speaker 2: was actually called October Rain. You had to change the
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Speaker 2: lyrics for Eurovision. How did it make you feel when
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Speaker 2: you were told that this would need to be done,
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Speaker 2: that you couldn't reference the October seven terror attacks.
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Speaker 13: Even before I got selected to represent your vision, we
45:59
Speaker 13: knew that whoever was going to get selected was going
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Speaker 13: to get a lot of backlash and a lot of hatred,
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Speaker 13: and that many people didn't want us there, didn't want
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Speaker 13: us to participate, didn't want us to take.
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Speaker 1: Part in the Eurovision Song contists this year.
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Speaker 13: So let me put it this, I wasn't shocked when
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Speaker 13: the song wasn't accepted and we were told we need
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Speaker 13: to change the lyrics. I was like, okay, well my thoughts.
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Speaker 1: You proved me right that you don't really want us there.
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Speaker 1: And it wasn't even a question.
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Speaker 13: I was just like, let's get into the studio, let's
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Speaker 13: change the lyrics. Let's do everything in our power to
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Speaker 13: make this work and make us be able to participate
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Speaker 13: and stand there on stage and represent our country.
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Speaker 2: Such a powerful, moving, emotional song, and it it speaks
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Speaker 2: to everyone. I actually came to Israel for the anniversary
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Speaker 2: of October seven, and for many of the people I
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Speaker 2: spoke to, many of the survivors, or understandably people who
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Speaker 2: still have family who being held hostage, it's just impossible
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Speaker 2: to move on until the hostages are brought home. For
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Speaker 2: many people, for many Israelis it still feels like it's
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Speaker 2: October seven all over again. Every day that's the reality
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Speaker 2: they wake up to. What are your reflections on how
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Speaker 2: our world has changed over the past fourteen months. Wow.
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Speaker 1: First of all, I don't think.
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Speaker 13: The world will ever be the same place after October seventh,
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Speaker 13: and definitely for our country and our people, this is
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Speaker 13: something that will be with us forever and something we'll never.
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Speaker 1: Be able to forget.
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Speaker 13: And I don't think anyone should ever experience what we
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Speaker 13: went through, and the fact that we still have hostages
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Speaker 13: after such a long time held hostage is just it's like,
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Speaker 13: what this shouldn't be the reality.
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Speaker 1: This shouldn't be what we're going through.
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Speaker 13: This shouldn't be real, and we should be doing every
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Speaker 13: thing to bring them back home.
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Speaker 1: So I can definitely understand.
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Speaker 13: And I feel the people that for us, it's October
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Speaker 13: seventh every day and life will never be the same
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Speaker 13: after what we went through. And I do think it
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Speaker 13: had a huge effect on the world and people all
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Speaker 13: over the world.
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Speaker 1: Especially on us. It has changed a.
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Speaker 13: Lot of things, and I'm just hoping that things can
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Speaker 13: also change the other way to a better place, and
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Speaker 13: that we can bring the hospitals back home and just
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Speaker 13: have a bit.
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Speaker 1: More peace and love in this world.
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Speaker 2: We desperately need it, desperately needed. I just finally Eden.
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Speaker 2: You know, as I said, you're an inspiration to all
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Speaker 2: of us. You connect particularly strongly with the young generation
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Speaker 2: in Australia and in Israel. Many children are doing it
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Speaker 2: really tough right now, suffering from anxiety, They're scared about
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Speaker 2: the future. What's your message to children?
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Speaker 7: Wow?
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Speaker 1: I actually wrote a song about that.
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Speaker 13: My latest song literally speaks about that, about children being
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Speaker 13: older than they should be and not being able to
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Speaker 13: fully live life happily and be out in the gardens dreaming,
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Speaker 13: and they have anxiety and fears about the future and
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Speaker 13: what will happen and what will be And the children
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Speaker 13: in our country that have to run to bomb shelters
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Speaker 13: because of sirens.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 13: The one thing I can say is that we are
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Speaker 13: strong and we have each other. And I'm Israel Hi,
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Speaker 13: and I'm Israel is strong. And people get through this,
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Speaker 13: through all this horrible period of time, and I just
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Speaker 13: hope everyone has something that can keep them going through.
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Speaker 13: For me, it's music, and I do music to heal
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Speaker 13: myself and to heal people through music, and if playing
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Speaker 13: music and listening to my music helps anyone, that's the
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Speaker 13: best thing. And finding just a safe place and our
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Speaker 13: surroundings and friends and family's that's all we have right now,
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Speaker 13: and that's the most we can do.
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Speaker 1: Is just love each other and spread it.
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Speaker 2: Such a beautiful message. I can't thank you enough for
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Speaker 2: sharing it with us here in Australia, Eden. All our
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Speaker 2: love to you. Thank you so much for standing tall
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Speaker 2: and proud and strong.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you so much for having
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Speaker 1: me alright.
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Speaker 2: I see you tomorrow for my final show of the year.
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Speaker 2: Here's James McPherson.