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- 0:00Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
- 0:05Speaker 2: Back to it, NewsRadio 570 WKBN with Tom Zammery on
- 0:10Speaker 2: this situation in Poland Township, which I think is a
- 0:14Speaker 2: dire situation at this point in time.
- 0:16Speaker 3: Would you agree with that, Tom?
- 0:18Speaker 4: Yes, if they don't have the money to pay employees
- 0:20Speaker 4: and they don't have the money to keep the continued government,
- 0:22Speaker 4: it is. And something has to be done. I don't
- 0:25Speaker 4: know enough about it because I haven't studied it. to
- 0:29Speaker 4: say what should be done. Obviously, something needs to be
- 0:31Speaker 4: done in a way of getting money. And I don't know.
- 0:33Speaker 4: You know, they're asking a three mil levy. I have
- 0:37Speaker 4: no idea how much money that is. And I think
- 0:40Speaker 4: it needs to be looked at like anything. Like the
- 0:42Speaker 4: last time I called, they talked about, you know, they
- 0:45Speaker 4: pay out all this money and nobody takes a look
- 0:47Speaker 4: at what's happening with it. You know, what are we
- 0:48Speaker 4: doing with this money? You know, I thought I heard
- 0:50Speaker 4: something about the WRTA spending $ 60 million on their garage
- 0:55Speaker 4: down there to put in and build a new garage
- 0:57Speaker 4: with place for electric buses and everything else, I mean,
- 1:01Speaker 4: you've got to be kidding me, you know. And all
- 1:04Speaker 4: these things are happening, and no one puts the whole
- 1:07Speaker 4: picture together to say, where's all this money coming from?
- 1:10Speaker 4: And so I don't have an answer for polling except
- 1:14Speaker 4: that unless they take a short-term levy, like you can
- 1:18Speaker 4: have it for two years or something like that, and
- 1:20Speaker 4: in the meantime you're going to have to do something
- 1:22Speaker 4: to correct your spending. But I really don't have, I
- 1:26Speaker 4: couldn't make.
- 1:27Speaker 2: A clear judgment. Let me bounce this off of you.
- 1:31Speaker 2: There's a couple of things. First of all, I don't
- 1:33Speaker 2: think you can always cut your way out of some
- 1:37Speaker 2: of these situations. I don't think you can say, well,
- 1:41Speaker 2: we're going to cut and we're going to get out
- 1:42Speaker 2: of this situation. And let me just explain that for
- 1:44Speaker 2: a minute and see if you agree. Townships, government is
- 1:49Speaker 2: affected by inflation as well. Like I've said a million times, Tom,
- 1:52Speaker 2: look at what a fire truck used to cost and
- 1:54Speaker 2: what it costs today. Look at what a police car
- 1:56Speaker 2: used to cost and what it costs today. Look at
- 1:58Speaker 2: what health care benefits used to cost and what they
- 2:00Speaker 2: cost today. I mean, they are affected by inflation just
- 2:04Speaker 2: as anybody else is.
- 2:06Speaker 3: Affected by it.
- 2:07Speaker 2: So it's hard for them to operate without some additional
- 2:11Speaker 2: money to be able to provide the same level of services,
- 2:15Speaker 2: not additional services, the same level of services that they have.
- 2:24Speaker 4: I agree with you on that.
- 2:26Speaker 5: Right.
- 2:26Speaker 2: You're coming, though, at a time when there's a much bigger–
- 2:29Speaker 2: so we agree on that. But here's what the problem is,
- 2:32Speaker 2: the statement that you made earlier. We are at a
- 2:35Speaker 2: situation where people can't afford this in their own households either.
- 2:39Speaker 2: We don't have enough people looking at what's happening to
- 2:42Speaker 2: the homeowner and their finances in their home.
- 2:45Speaker 3: You follow me?
- 2:45Speaker 2: So they're not– They're not looking carefully at that particular
- 2:49Speaker 2: situation because that person in the home is saying, now
- 2:52Speaker 2: what do I do or where do I cut or
- 2:54Speaker 2: I can't afford to live in my home anymore because
- 2:56Speaker 2: you taxed me out of it. So I go back
- 3:00Speaker 2: to say, why is it that the states give so
- 3:04Speaker 2: much money to Youngstown? and tells the citizens of the
- 3:08Speaker 2: city of Canfield, well, you pay state taxes too, but
- 3:11Speaker 2: you're not going to get very much back because you
- 3:13Speaker 2: should tax yourself more because you're in a fluent community
- 3:17Speaker 2: to replace your middle school, which needs replaced. You follow me?
- 3:20Speaker 2: I mean, it's so unfair. It penalizes people. Would you
- 3:26Speaker 2: agree with that?
- 3:28Speaker 5: I agree. I agree.
- 3:29Speaker 4: I don't know why. I know there's a great difference
- 3:32Speaker 4: between what per capita given per student in Youngstown versus
- 3:37Speaker 4: the other townships around. It's a lot more money that's
- 3:40Speaker 4: given to the city of Youngstown. They spend a lot
- 3:42Speaker 4: more money per student. And that has to be looked at, too.
- 3:47Speaker 4: What are you doing with all that money? What are
- 3:49Speaker 4: you doing with $ 150 million?
- 3:52Speaker 2: I would propose to you, Tom, and you're a smart guy,
- 3:54Speaker 2: I think the entire system is collapsing. And I think
- 3:58Speaker 2: it's collapsing for a number of reasons. I think it's
- 4:01Speaker 2: collapsing because you have incompetent people sitting in some of
- 4:05Speaker 2: these elected positions that really aren't very good fiscally.
- 4:09Speaker 3: At running an organization.
- 4:10Speaker 2: And I think they're nothing short of incompetent when it
- 4:15Speaker 2: comes to that. The second thing is we are at
- 4:18Speaker 2: a time when government continues to grow and these people
- 4:23Speaker 2: think government should just continue to do more and more
- 4:26Speaker 2: for everybody instead of saying no. So, I mean, the
- 4:29Speaker 2: basic functions of government, plow your roads, be able to
- 4:32Speaker 2: replace the plow trucks, which are expensive, and pay your
- 4:35Speaker 2: people that are plowing the roads and cleaning the culverts.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Have a police department that will respond to your calls
- 4:43Speaker 2: and have a fire department and.
- 4:45Speaker 3: A zoning office.
- 4:47Speaker 2: The basic necessities of what a township or a township.
- 4:51Speaker 2: The city can afford. This is what you have. And
- 4:53Speaker 2: this is what what what are the expenses of that?
- 4:56Speaker 2: We're going to have a park. Somebody's going to mow it.
- 4:59Speaker 2: But we're not going to have some elaborate stuff in
- 5:01Speaker 2: the park because we can't afford it.
- 5:03Speaker 5: Right.
- 5:03Speaker 3: We can't.
- 5:05Speaker 2: It's just not affordable. So that is how your community
- 5:08Speaker 2: has to operate. And then we got to take a
- 5:10Speaker 2: look by saying. by looking at the effect of the
- 5:15Speaker 2: first appraisals and how much taxes went up, now the reappraisals,
- 5:19Speaker 2: and they're going to go up even more, even though
- 5:22Speaker 2: Dave Thomas has it restricted to the rate of inflation.
- 5:26Speaker 2: So there's a lot of... There's so much that needs
- 5:29Speaker 2: to be looked at, all of this stuff, and fixed.
- 5:33Speaker 2: But the immediate problem in Poland Township is, are we
- 5:36Speaker 2: going to be able to pay the cops?
- 5:39Speaker 5: Right. I..
- 5:42Speaker 4: Without having done any study, I would say a levy
- 5:47Speaker 4: of a short period of time to solve this problem
- 5:51Speaker 4: and in the meantime work on, if you can, come
- 5:54Speaker 4: up with some other measures to reduce spending or whatever.
- 6:01Speaker 3: If you can reduce it. Right, if you can. If
- 6:05Speaker 3: you can, because... You might not be able to reduce
- 6:08Speaker 3: it is what I'm trying to say.
- 6:09Speaker 4: I'm just surprised that they would go and spend money
- 6:13Speaker 4: on things that weren't absolutely essential. That's a big headache
- 6:17Speaker 4: as far as you're pulling. You're spending things on some
- 6:20Speaker 4: kind of a park. Again, I haven't been paid.
- 6:25Speaker 3: But you bring up an excellent point on the other things.
- 6:27Speaker 2: I mean, for people, people voted for the forever sales
- 6:31Speaker 2: tax for WRTA. It generates about $ 10 million and sometimes
- 6:37Speaker 2: more than that a year. So I say it again,
- 6:39Speaker 2: WRTA's biggest problem is figuring out how to spend all
- 6:42Speaker 2: the money they get coming in every year.
- 6:44Speaker 3: I mean, and that's why they're doing all these stupid things.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Well, maybe we should say that isn't necessary and.
- 6:53Speaker 3: That should be adjusted.
- 6:55Speaker 2: Or when you're taking a look at the library and
- 6:57Speaker 2: all the extra money they have in their bank accounts, well,
- 7:00Speaker 2: that's your tax dollars. That's your property tax money. Why
- 7:04Speaker 2: do they have all of that? That's your money. That
- 7:06Speaker 2: should be in your bank account, not their bank account.
- 7:09Speaker 2: And where's the commissioners or the people to say no?
- 7:12Speaker 2: You know, I sit here and I tell people, do
- 7:15Speaker 2: not vote for the library levies.
- 7:17Speaker 3: I don't. I won't.
- 7:19Speaker 2: And they have more money than they know what to
- 7:21Speaker 2: do with. They have all this money in a bank account.
- 7:23Speaker 2: And now they're top heavy with hiring all these people
- 7:26Speaker 2: that aren't doing maintenance on the buildings you've invested in,
- 7:29Speaker 2: but are instead doing nothing but insulating the president of
- 7:34Speaker 2: the library who doesn't seem very vocal or reaching out
- 7:38Speaker 2: to say, I want to address the community in which
- 7:40Speaker 2: is paying me for this position. I'm going to hire
- 7:43Speaker 2: all of these mouthpieces to do hit jobs on architects
- 7:46Speaker 2: and stuff like that.
- 7:48Speaker 4: That's exactly what's happening. That's true. In particular one, I
- 7:51Speaker 4: won't get into the names, but I noticed more articles
- 7:55Speaker 4: in the paper supportive of the library. That's another thing.
- 8:00Speaker 4: The media, they were in favor of all this stuff.
- 8:04Speaker 4: Before they start endorsing things, they better start doing some study.
- 8:07Speaker 4: They better start looking at it. If you don't know
- 8:10Speaker 4: what you're talking about, don't go out there endorsing a levy.
- 8:13Speaker 4: That's what happened with That's what happens with the tripling
- 8:17Speaker 4: of the property tax for the library. That's what happened
- 8:20Speaker 4: with WRTA getting that kind of money. I can think
- 8:26Speaker 4: of one horrible example of tax money going somewhere, and
- 8:29Speaker 4: that's Jobs Ohio. Have you ever heard of that, Jobs Ohio?
- 8:31Speaker 5: Yes, yes.
- 8:32Speaker 4: One of your callers one day called in, Jobs Ohio
- 8:34Speaker 4: and Jobs Ohio Beverage. They get hundreds of millions of
- 8:39Speaker 4: dollars a year from the state from some type of
- 8:41Speaker 4: a beverage tax. And then that's used supposedly for economic development.
- 8:47Speaker 4: And when Kasich was governor, he allowed the legislation to
- 8:53Speaker 4: be passed that you couldn't. That wasn't subject to the
- 8:55Speaker 4: Open Records Act of Ohio, and you didn't always know
- 8:58Speaker 4: what they were doing with it. So it's at all levels.
- 9:00Speaker 4: But in addition to, you know, they better start taking
- 9:03Speaker 4: a look at what's going on closer, everybody. It just
- 9:10Speaker 4: can't go on like it is.
- 9:11Speaker 5: No.
- 9:12Speaker 2: No, it can't because you see the ramifications of what's
- 9:16Speaker 2: happening now.
- 9:17Speaker 3: It is genuinely. Take a look at the homeowner, Tom.
- 9:21Speaker 2: Like I said, the initial increases that came at the
- 9:24Speaker 2: last appraisal, the additional increases that are coming as a
- 9:28Speaker 2: result of this appraisal. Their electric bill has doubled. Their
- 9:32Speaker 2: gasoline price is $ 4 a gallon. Groceries have gone up.
- 9:36Speaker 2: Healthcare costs have gone up. How much do these local
- 9:39Speaker 2: politicians think you can put on that local household for
- 9:43Speaker 2: it to survive? How much more can that person take
- 9:47Speaker 2: before you put them right into the poorhouse or price
- 9:49Speaker 2: them out of their house. Don't give me the lip service.
- 9:52Speaker 2: Talk is cheap. Deeds are precious. Let's do something about it. Let's,
- 9:56Speaker 2: I mean, and you got to look at the state
- 9:59Speaker 2: as well. and how they're running the facility but so
- 10:04Speaker 2: much so much work to do here and they know
- 10:07Speaker 2: the federal government's a whole other problem to say the
- 10:10Speaker 2: least all right all right my friend it's always a
- 10:13Speaker 2: pleasure to hear you thank you.
- 10:15Speaker 3: Thank you all right you're on here.
- 10:18Speaker 6: Hey ronnie how you doing today good Hey, yeah, the
- 10:23Speaker 6: boss lady, I love her calls, but I hope she's
- 10:25Speaker 6: got like a heart monitor going on there.
- 10:29Speaker 3: Yes, she needs to go get some, what did she say?
- 10:34Speaker 3: She's Italian. She needs to get some good Italian food tonight,
- 10:36Speaker 3: I think. You know what she needs? A good pizza.
- 10:41Speaker 4: There you go.
- 10:42Speaker 5: There you go.
- 10:43Speaker 6: Hey, but you guys are talking about, you know, the
- 10:45Speaker 6: mismanagement of spending and how they're trying to take money
- 10:48Speaker 6: from the rich to give to the poor. You know,
- 10:50Speaker 6: the whole Robin Hood thing, which growing up, you know,
- 10:53Speaker 6: listening to Robin Hood, you think, oh, that's a pretty
- 10:55Speaker 6: good deal. You know, Robin Hood, you know, stealing from
- 11:00Speaker 6: the rich and giving to the poor. But that's communism.
- 11:03Speaker 5: Basically, you know.
- 11:05Speaker 3: Well, that is what the state is doing.
- 11:08Speaker 2: I mean, seriously, God forbid for the people in the
- 11:11Speaker 2: city of Canfield, if the MRDD levy would pass, which
- 11:17Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't, and if they would pass the
- 11:20Speaker 2: school levy there, in addition to the reevaluation increases, can
- 11:25Speaker 2: you imagine the tax bills that those people could get
- 11:28Speaker 2: in Canfield if all of that is successful?
- 11:31Speaker 3: Can you imagine it?
- 11:33Speaker 5: Yeah, it's insane.
- 11:34Speaker 6: And I think I told you before, I think since
- 11:36Speaker 6: like 2000 till 2020 till now, my home evaluation almost doubled,
- 11:44Speaker 6: almost doubled.
- 11:46Speaker 5: But my main point.
- 11:47Speaker 6: In calling is that I think I might have told
- 11:51Speaker 6: you before to look it up. I don't know if
- 11:53Speaker 6: you ever heard it, but Rush Limbaugh, every Thanksgiving he had,
- 11:58Speaker 6: I think it was called the true story of Thanksgiving.
- 12:02Speaker 6: And every Thanksgiving, he would talk about when the pilgrims
- 12:05Speaker 6: came over. And you can look it up on YouTube.
- 12:11Speaker 5: There are several of.
- 12:11Speaker 6: Them because, like, every year he did one. He read it,
- 12:15Speaker 6: the same story. But, yeah, look for the, like, it
- 12:20Speaker 6: takes like 20 minutes, but it's very, very interesting. And
- 12:24Speaker 6: I wish that all these young communists, you know, would
- 12:28Speaker 6: listen to this. and find out what really happens with communism.
- 12:32Speaker 2: All right, my friends. The Unknown Caller, thank you. News
- 12:37Speaker 2: Radio 570 WKBN 519. Ron Verb, you're on the air.
- 12:43Speaker 4: G2.
- 12:44Speaker 5: Good evening, Ron.
- 12:46Speaker 3: Big problems here.
- 12:48Speaker 5: I heard about this polling meeting, and I'm a little
- 12:50Speaker 5: bit astonished all the time by these governments saying they
- 12:54Speaker 5: always need more money. So... You get new development. You
- 12:59Speaker 5: have appraisals changing on a regular basis. That means taxes
- 13:04Speaker 5: are going up with inflation, right? Your appraisals are rising.
- 13:08Speaker 5: The tax base is going up. The tax receipts are
- 13:11Speaker 5: going up. And yet somehow they then come back and say, oh, wait,
- 13:14Speaker 5: there's inflation. We have to not just raise your basis.
- 13:18Speaker 5: We have to raise your rates. We have to take
- 13:21Speaker 5: more of what money you have. It doesn't make sense.
- 13:25Speaker 5: I mean, shouldn't it be just that they keep their
- 13:27Speaker 5: budget in line with these appraisal increases, which, by the way,
- 13:31Speaker 5: I don't think are limited to homes? So you've got
- 13:34Speaker 5: your residential plus commercial real estate all being reappraised every
- 13:39Speaker 5: six years, right, unless there's a mid-cycle, and there are.
- 13:42Speaker 5: And yet they need more cash. Getting in a situation
- 13:46Speaker 5: where you've got a brand-new Suburban and you can't afford
- 13:50Speaker 5: to have it outfitted with the proper signage and gear, Yeah,
- 13:56Speaker 5: this is clearly a group that's in trouble. So I
- 13:58Speaker 5: guess the question is, what happens next in Poland? And
- 14:02Speaker 5: while I do not accept any of these sort of
- 14:06Speaker 5: blanket solutions, like regionalization is somehow going to save money,
- 14:12Speaker 5: I don't believe that's actually probably true. Regionalization means a
- 14:16Speaker 5: bigger government with a bigger appetite and more ideas.
- 14:19Speaker 7: Yep.
- 14:20Speaker 5: But here you've got Poland Village and Poland Township that
- 14:23Speaker 5: are interconnected like two little puzzle pieces. And yet they
- 14:26Speaker 5: have duplicative services, duplicative agencies. Why not merge them? Why
- 14:31Speaker 5: not bring these together, have one police department and one fire?
- 14:34Speaker 5: They have two separate, don't they?
- 14:38Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe so, yes.
- 14:40Speaker 5: So why not merge these things and start consolidation to
- 14:45Speaker 5: reduce costs? Because you've got a very small geographic footprint.
- 14:49Speaker 5: It just doesn't, none of this makes sense to me.
- 14:51Speaker 5: I don't understand. Hmm.
- 14:55Speaker 3: It's, it is just a mess.
- 14:59Speaker 2: I mean, when we talk about these problems, like I
- 15:02Speaker 2: was saying to him, I'm not saying that government isn't
- 15:05Speaker 2: affected by inflation. I mean, for their employees, their health
- 15:07Speaker 2: care costs go up, the cost of their equipment goes up,
- 15:11Speaker 2: and they often need more money to be able to
- 15:14Speaker 2: just stay even with the services they're providing if, in fact,
- 15:18Speaker 2: they're operating efficiently on everything else. There's the key. If
- 15:23Speaker 2: we're operating efficiently, they might stand by. Back with G2
- 15:26Speaker 2: in a minute. NewsRadio 570, Dodie Kivian. Welcome to Wednesday,
- 15:30Speaker 2: July 29th at 79 degrees. Ron Verb from the Kingdom
- 15:34Speaker 2: of Mahoney.
- 15:36Speaker 8: If you run a business, you know how hard..
- 15:38Speaker 1: And Talk Station 570 WKBN.
- 15:42Speaker 2: I don't know how you don't... You just look at
- 15:44Speaker 2: this situation, G2, on a local level, and you say
- 15:47Speaker 2: things are really messed up. As I was saying to Tom,
- 15:50Speaker 2: you take a community like the city of Canfield who
- 15:53Speaker 2: pay state taxes and say, well, you guys are more affluent,
- 15:56Speaker 2: so you've got to pay even more in property taxes
- 16:00Speaker 2: if you want to update your middle school, which needs updated,
- 16:03Speaker 2: but we're going to give... All of this tax money
- 16:06Speaker 2: is state tax money to the city of Youngstown. I mean,
- 16:10Speaker 2: it isn't even equitable to what what they're doing as
- 16:13Speaker 2: far as your state tax dollars going back to your schools.
- 16:17Speaker 2: Like I said, so you got them facing a big
- 16:19Speaker 2: school levy in Canfield. You got this ridiculous MRDD levy,
- 16:24Speaker 2: which which they want to put on people. And if
- 16:27Speaker 2: those levies pass, in addition to the current reevaluations, how
- 16:31Speaker 2: do people stay in their homes in the city of Canfield?
- 16:34Speaker 2: I mean, how do they expect people to afford this?
- 16:38Speaker 3: No one cares.
- 16:39Speaker 8: They don't.
- 16:42Speaker 2: It would be absolutely impossible for them to care less.
- 16:45Speaker 2: But I say to you, the entire system is blowing up.
- 16:48Speaker 2: The entire system is exploding, in part due to inflation.
- 16:53Speaker 2: And in part due to the growth of government. Government
- 16:57Speaker 2: getting bigger and doing more than it should probably do
- 17:01Speaker 2: in the first place and the cost of it. It's
- 17:03Speaker 2: just out of control. Even at the county level, certainly.
- 17:07Speaker 2: Any comments?
- 17:10Speaker 5: I know a county that just hired a chief experience officer.
- 17:15Speaker 5: A chief experience officer. I mean, so... Again, if your
- 17:19Speaker 5: appraised values of the real estate that you're taxing are
- 17:23Speaker 5: going up, that means you automatically get property tax increases.
- 17:27Speaker 5: And those property tax increases may even exceed inflation because
- 17:32Speaker 5: real estate's popped more than some other things. I mean,
- 17:34Speaker 5: you look at inflation since 2020. We talked about this
- 17:37Speaker 5: the other day. It's net about 30%, right? We see
- 17:40Speaker 5: this every day when we go to the grocery store.
- 17:42Speaker 5: I know it's low now. It's like 2.10, but it's
- 17:46Speaker 5: cumulatively very, very... But what's property done in the Mahoney Valley?
- 17:51Speaker 5: It's up at least 30%. It's probably more than that.
- 17:54Speaker 5: So looking at the amount of tax they're taking in
- 17:57Speaker 5: and comparing that to the actual rate of inflation would
- 18:00Speaker 5: answer the question, and maybe we'll do this. We'll see
- 18:02Speaker 5: if we can figure this out. Are they actually being
- 18:05Speaker 5: forced to raise rates because of inflation or because they
- 18:09Speaker 5: just simply can't ever, ever have enough money? They always
- 18:14Speaker 5: need more. And I think it's the latter. You know,
- 18:17Speaker 5: you've got a stakeholder relations officer at the library system.
- 18:21Speaker 5: It's a library. What are they doing? When you talk
- 18:26Speaker 5: to Gino and you hear these stories about how he
- 18:28Speaker 5: has to, oh, all this spending, right? I didn't understand
- 18:31Speaker 5: until I was in the job. Now we have to
- 18:33Speaker 5: spend money on all these things. I haven't heard anyone
- 18:37Speaker 5: say and Gino say anything about a single amount of
- 18:40Speaker 5: expense that he has suggested be cut. or a single
- 18:44Speaker 5: suggestion that could result in the reduction of the taxes
- 18:47Speaker 5: being burdened on the people of the Mahoning County. So
- 18:52Speaker 5: it's this insatiable demand and the belief that government is
- 18:56Speaker 5: a higher priority than businesses. And what I mean by that,
- 18:58Speaker 5: you know, if any government entity starts talking about pay
- 19:02Speaker 5: cuts or reducing its workforce, everybody goes nuts as if
- 19:06Speaker 5: somehow the government worker is sacrosanct. You can fire everybody
- 19:12Speaker 5: that worked at everything from LTV to Schwebel's and everything
- 19:15Speaker 5: that happened in between. Fire them all. Nobody cares. You
- 19:19Speaker 5: fire one government worker, they're ready to go out and
- 19:21Speaker 5: burn things down. Listen, government also has economic realities to
- 19:26Speaker 5: deal with, or at least it would if its citizens
- 19:30Speaker 5: demanded that taxes stop going up. And again, you've got appraisals.
- 19:35Speaker 5: So total taxes paid are going to increase. there is
- 19:39Speaker 5: no justification for any entity to raise the tax rate
- 19:44Speaker 5: if you got it if you got an income tax
- 19:47Speaker 5: well that goes up of course with inflation if you've
- 19:49Speaker 5: got a sales tax it automatically goes up with inflation, right?
- 19:55Speaker 5: I mean, so you've got a sales tax, and that
- 19:58Speaker 5: price is up 30%. That means overall, let's just say
- 20:01Speaker 5: the consumer goods that are being taxed are up 30%. Okay,
- 20:05Speaker 5: that means they just got an adjustment reflecting the inflation.
- 20:08Speaker 5: They don't need to raise sales tax rates. There is
- 20:11Speaker 5: never an argument to do that. No justification whatsoever, period.
- 20:16Speaker 5: It's time for governments to be held in the box,
- 20:19Speaker 5: in the same economic constraints that companies and individuals face.
- 20:25Speaker 5: But for reasons that go to culture and the way
- 20:28Speaker 5: we've been groomed, we view government as... As the savior,
- 20:33Speaker 5: the parent, the one that takes care of us, the
- 20:35Speaker 5: one that should be paying for everything, this is what
- 20:37Speaker 5: I call the Sovietization of the United States. It simply
- 20:40Speaker 5: has to stop.
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- 22:53Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb. On NewsRadio 570 WKBN. Back to it,
- 22:57Speaker 1: NewsRadio 570 WKBN. Ron Verb with G2 and... Let's see here.
- 23:07Speaker 1: Wait a second.
- 23:07Speaker 3: You're on the air.
- 23:09Speaker 5: Hey, Ron. Have a good day.
- 23:11Speaker 3: Thank you, Dick, from Dayton. You're on the air.
- 23:15Speaker 5: Man, finally.
- 23:16Speaker 11: The first time I called you was at 305. And
- 23:20Speaker 11: then I had to go through an hour of me
- 23:22Speaker 11: being called bad names because I'm a Democrat.
- 23:24Speaker 2: Yes.
- 23:24Speaker 5: Not me personally, but Democrats. Yeah.
- 23:26Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.
- 23:28Speaker 3: It was directed at you personally.
- 23:29Speaker 9: G2.
- 23:30Speaker 8: Yes.
- 23:30Speaker 5: I heard..
- 23:34Speaker 11: The conversation you and Ron had yesterday. That's when I
- 23:37Speaker 11: wanted to call you. And there's two quick things that
- 23:41Speaker 11: I don't know if you're aware of, that you're totally
- 23:43Speaker 11: aware of what's going on.
- 23:46Speaker 5: Are you ready? Go ahead. Okay.
- 23:50Speaker 11: Now, I heard you and Ron having a discussion yesterday
- 23:54Speaker 11: about the flex cameras and the SAVE Act. Have you
- 24:01Speaker 11: read the SAVE Act?
- 24:04Speaker 2: Yes.
- 24:06Speaker 11: Okay, so you okay with the government, i.e., Donald Trump,
- 24:11Speaker 11: taking over the elections? And this is the same guy
- 24:16Speaker 11: that said, if I win, it's okay. If I lose,
- 24:19Speaker 11: I'm going to fight it.
- 24:20Speaker 5: Are you okay with that part of that? So here's
- 24:25Speaker 5: the point. We have foreign nationals in our voter rolls.
- 24:30Speaker 5: We have duplicates. We have, I think it's 12 states
- 24:33Speaker 5: with more registered voters. than people that are eligible to
- 24:37Speaker 5: be registered voters. So what we have is a badly
- 24:42Speaker 5: broken election system. We have states that don't have voter ID.
- 24:47Speaker 5: Ohio does. We have states using these ballot marking devices,
- 24:51Speaker 5: like Ohio uses in some cases, that are absolutely untrue.
- 24:56Speaker 5: You cannot tell how that vote was calculated. So what
- 24:59Speaker 5: we have is a system that's extraordinarily vulnerable. and for
- 25:03Speaker 5: reasons that seem obvious a lot of elected officials want
- 25:07Speaker 5: to keep the system the way it is and make
- 25:10Speaker 5: sure it remains vulnerable no other organization but government would
- 25:15Speaker 5: run in uh..
- 25:16Speaker 6: Uh..
- 25:16Speaker 5: A product like that's probably one is critical of elections
- 25:20Speaker 5: now you you want to bring trump into it it's
- 25:22Speaker 5: got nothing to do with trump this is about making
- 25:25Speaker 5: sure that when the public that our elections are secure
- 25:30Speaker 5: So what we need as a nation is clean voter
- 25:34Speaker 5: rolls and secure process. And we just don't have it.
- 25:38Speaker 5: So not only am I okay with this, it is,
- 25:40Speaker 5: I believe, a significant existential threat to the country that
- 25:46Speaker 5: our elections are so vulnerable and are obviously manipulated. And
- 25:49Speaker 5: I've got direct evidence of fraud that I've seen myself.
- 25:53Speaker 5: And then if you look across the nation, there's a
- 25:55Speaker 5: lot more of it.
- 25:56Speaker 11: Okay, the second thing real quick. Well, a lot of
- 25:59Speaker 11: people don't understand what's going on with Iran.
- 26:04Speaker 5: Now, you do understand.
- 26:05Speaker 11: The difference between the Shiites and the Sunnis, right? The Shiites, right,
- 26:11Speaker 11: believe that you should vote for the person for the leader.
- 26:17Speaker 11: The Sunnis believe, you know, like when Allah died, the
- 26:20Speaker 11: Sunnis believe there should be somebody in the family. That's
- 26:23Speaker 11: because you have kings in Saudi Arabia and kings in
- 26:26Speaker 11: other places, and you don't have kings with Iran, the Houthis, and.
- 26:33Speaker 5: Lebanon.
- 26:34Speaker 11: So my question to you is, don't you understand that
- 26:37Speaker 11: this is a doggone religious war that's been going on
- 26:40Speaker 11: for 100 years?
- 26:43Speaker 5: Well, the war between the Shiites and the Sunnis have
- 26:44Speaker 5: been going as long as there's been Islam, right? So
- 26:49Speaker 5: that's not new, if that's what you mean.
- 26:54Speaker 11: Well, what I'm saying is this. Let me say this
- 26:56Speaker 11: real quick, then I'll listen to you. Let me say
- 26:57Speaker 11: this real quick.
- 26:58Speaker 5: We've always.
- 27:01Speaker 11: Sided with the Sunnis. You know, the Saudi Arabias, the Iraq,
- 27:06Speaker 11: you know, the Sunnis. We have never really sided with
- 27:09Speaker 11: the Shiites.
- 27:11Speaker 5: Why are we doing that? Well, look, as you know,
- 27:18Speaker 5: places like Saudi Arabia and Qatar depend upon the United
- 27:22Speaker 5: States helping protect them in order for them to maintain
- 27:25Speaker 5: their kingdoms. If it wasn't for our military there, those
- 27:29Speaker 5: kingdoms would have been overthrown long ago. They have so
- 27:33Speaker 5: much wealth concentrated in such small hands, small number of hands,
- 27:38Speaker 5: and just the nature of this Sunni-Shia battle and all
- 27:42Speaker 5: the other internet scene fighting that goes on, you know,
- 27:46Speaker 5: our military presence in the Middle East, in part, provides
- 27:49Speaker 5: stability in those countries and, therefore, stability for the world.
- 27:53Speaker 5: That's actually a positive of us being there. But I
- 27:57Speaker 5: don't think we're ever going to solve the fight between
- 27:59Speaker 5: those two groups if we could simply, though, get them
- 28:03Speaker 5: to the point that it's collaborative. I mean, this advancement
- 28:07Speaker 5: with the Abraham Accords was a truly remarkable change. where
- 28:11Speaker 5: you could start going in other countries without having your
- 28:14Speaker 5: passport stamped outside of your passport because one country might
- 28:18Speaker 5: not let you in because you have another country's passport
- 28:21Speaker 5: stamped because you went there once. I mean, it was crazy.
- 28:25Speaker 5: You weren't able to make phone calls in some cases
- 28:27Speaker 5: between countries. A lot of that got resolved in that
- 28:30Speaker 5: first Trump term, and that was a really good thing. Now,
- 28:33Speaker 5: this thing with Iran, as everybody that knows except Frank,
- 28:37Speaker 5: because he doesn't seem to listen very carefully, he's got
- 28:39Speaker 5: a cognitive issue or something, I was never in favor
- 28:43Speaker 5: of this war in Iran. When Trump attacked them last year,
- 28:46Speaker 5: I was extremely concerned until I saw the way he exited.
- 28:52Speaker 5: He took that nuclear threat that all the globalists and
- 28:55Speaker 5: Israel and everybody was screaming about, he took it off
- 28:57Speaker 5: the table. It was a brilliant stroke because he did
- 29:00Speaker 5: it with minimal loss of life, a tremendous execution by
- 29:03Speaker 5: the U.S. military, and just took it, it just ended it,
- 29:06Speaker 5: and didn't go further with the war. Well, that wasn't
- 29:09Speaker 5: good enough for Lindsey Graham and all these others, so...
- 29:12Speaker 5: He had to go in again, and this was, I think,
- 29:15Speaker 5: a significant mistake for Donald Trump to launch that attack
- 29:18Speaker 5: against Iran when he did. I do not believe there
- 29:21Speaker 5: was a significant nuclear threat at this time. I do believe,
- 29:25Speaker 5: based on the fights in the White House, that Assad
- 29:29Speaker 5: and Israel convinced him to do it and convinced him
- 29:31Speaker 5: it would be easy. This was Trump's biggest mistake. It
- 29:35Speaker 5: is blocked at this war. Now, nevertheless, now it's launched.
- 29:40Speaker 5: We can't put that genie back in the bottle. So
- 29:43Speaker 5: what do we do? And that's where we came to
- 29:45Speaker 5: last night with the two options. Maybe more than two
- 29:48Speaker 5: if you dig in, but generally two. Withdraw, declare victory
- 29:54Speaker 5: and withdraw, or isolate the country economically until they finally
- 30:01Speaker 5: come to an agreement that works and they could be
- 30:03Speaker 5: held to that agreement. Not a small task.
- 30:06Speaker 9: I appreciate you taking my call, but I still think
- 30:12Speaker 9: the biggest mistake Trump did was not releasing Epstein's file.
- 30:16Speaker 9: Once again, thanks for taking my call, man.
- 30:19Speaker 3: That's what we do.
- 30:21Speaker 5: I appreciate it. And that would be We could analyze
- 30:24Speaker 5: that for a while because that was the first major break.
- 30:27Speaker 2: Well, you were opposed to that, too. I mean, you
- 30:30Speaker 2: thought that was a bad move on Trump's part, too.
- 30:33Speaker 5: I think he should have just dumped them. I don't
- 30:35Speaker 5: care what his role is. He should have just put
- 30:37Speaker 5: them out, let them be what they were, and all
- 30:40Speaker 5: these pages that are still hidden should be released as well.
- 30:44Speaker 2: Right. I mean, if you go back, you were opposed
- 30:47Speaker 2: to the war from the very beginning and you were
- 30:49Speaker 2: for putting the Epstein files out there. And if you
- 30:52Speaker 2: take a look at Trump's declining poll numbers, they seem
- 30:55Speaker 2: to correspond with those two issues.
- 30:57Speaker 3: Would you not agree?
- 30:57Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely. Those were the two major hits that he took. And,
- 31:02Speaker 5: you know, as Emmanuel said, it's not just Republicans or
- 31:06Speaker 5: what is Ted always talk about the MAGA cult or whatever? No, no, no.
- 31:10Speaker 5: This was something that went across the entirety of the
- 31:13Speaker 5: coalition that voted for Trump. And in the case the
- 31:15Speaker 5: Epstein filed, people that didn't vote for Trump. But, you know,
- 31:19Speaker 5: Israel has a strong voice. This was their operation. I'm
- 31:23Speaker 5: sure the CIA joined them in it. And, you know,
- 31:25Speaker 5: they got the big, beautiful bill passed.
- 31:27Speaker 9: Netanyahu flies to.
- 31:28Speaker 5: Town and Epstein becomes a hoax. I think this was
- 31:31Speaker 5: a major mistake. Trump should have told whoever he had
- 31:35Speaker 5: to tell, he should have released everything. And the way...
- 31:40Speaker 5: bondi went through the theater i thought my dad in
- 31:44Speaker 5: that silly thing with the with the file she handed
- 31:47Speaker 5: to the to the social media influence that's the worst
- 31:49Speaker 5: messaging we've ever seen from donald trump i mean i
- 31:53Speaker 5: that was just terribly terribly poorly handled and it cost
- 31:56Speaker 5: him and you know now what i see is massive
- 32:00Speaker 5: amounts of money being poured into social media and corporate
- 32:03Speaker 5: media to further divide that coalition they got trump elected
- 32:07Speaker 5: because that coalition The coalition that stands up for the
- 32:10Speaker 5: United States in the interest of its people is the
- 32:13Speaker 5: greatest threat to the globalists and all the foreign powers
- 32:17Speaker 5: that want to control this country, the cartels, right, who
- 32:20Speaker 5: lost billions of dollars when Trump stopped the border flows, right,
- 32:24Speaker 5: the Indians whose H-1B visas and worker outsource programs are
- 32:29Speaker 5: a major part of their economy. Israel, who obviously controls
- 32:33Speaker 5: much of Congress and would like to control more. And
- 32:35Speaker 5: if you don't believe me, listen to Barry Goldwater, for
- 32:38Speaker 5: God's sakes. I mean, this isn't new. Right? All these
- 32:42Speaker 5: forces that want to control the United States, all of
- 32:45Speaker 5: whom seem to have a voice in Congress except us. So,
- 32:49Speaker 5: I mean, we've got a problem here. And unless the
- 32:53Speaker 5: American people get more activated, we're not going to fix it.
- 32:57Speaker 2: Yeah, and it is a major issue that's that's going
- 33:02Speaker 2: on now. By the way, you want to talk about
- 33:06Speaker 2: an issue here, you know, let's see, Republican Governor Mike
- 33:10Speaker 2: DeWine stated that, let's see, wait a minute, I want
- 33:16Speaker 2: to back up here.
- 33:17Speaker 3: I want to make sure I get this straight. Okay.
- 33:19Speaker 2: A Republican governor in a state that voted to elect
- 33:21Speaker 2: President Donald Trump is facing intense backlash online after an
- 33:25Speaker 2: interview arguing against the president's order to end temporary protective
- 33:29Speaker 2: status to migrants from the United States. Republican Mike DeWine
- 33:35Speaker 2: states is home to an estimated 30,000 Haitians. He told
- 33:41Speaker 2: CBS earlier this week that the Haitians shouldn't be sent
- 33:43Speaker 2: back to their country of origin. Haiti is hell today,
- 33:47Speaker 2: so you'd be sending people back to hell. Very few
- 33:49Speaker 2: of these Haitians will voluntarily go back to Haiti. If
- 33:52Speaker 2: they have to leave, they'll go somewhere else.
- 33:55Speaker 3: They want to work.
- 33:55Speaker 2: They want to support their families. They will not go
- 33:59Speaker 2: back to Haiti. This is DeWine, a Republican governor here.
- 34:07Speaker 5: Well, a quasi-Republican. So, look, this is a man who
- 34:10Speaker 5: has a school that he sponsors in Haiti. He's very
- 34:14Speaker 5: active in Haiti. He's gone down there a lot of times.
- 34:17Speaker 5: You could hear him just gush about how much he
- 34:20Speaker 5: loves Haiti until it's time to send a Haitian to Haiti.
- 34:23Speaker 5: And then suddenly it's hell.
- 34:25Speaker 9: Well, listen..
- 34:26Speaker 5: I say we make Haiti great again. And we do
- 34:29Speaker 5: that by sending these people there, because we're told that
- 34:32Speaker 5: the only thing that makes the United States great is
- 34:35Speaker 5: this mass migration, because all these people are better than us.
- 34:39Speaker 5: Send them home with all the skills they acquired when
- 34:42Speaker 5: they took jobs like the jobs in Springfield that they
- 34:44Speaker 5: took in manufacturing facilities at 50% of the wage an
- 34:48Speaker 5: American would be paid for that job. So here what
- 34:51Speaker 5: you have is now a highly trained workforce, that's willing
- 34:54Speaker 5: to work at a very low wage. Send them home.
- 34:56Speaker 5: Let's make Haiti great again. And I know it's going
- 34:59Speaker 5: to be uncomfortable for the employer to actually go hire
- 35:03Speaker 5: Americans to fill those jobs. But you know what? You're
- 35:06Speaker 5: going to have to do that. You're going to have
- 35:08Speaker 5: to just go hire Americans as much as you hate it.
- 35:10Speaker 2: What did you make of Fauci today taking the fifth
- 35:12Speaker 2: and all the lawyers around him?
- 35:14Speaker 3: What did you make of that fiasco?
- 35:17Speaker 5: Well, first of all, obviously it was predictable. We knew
- 35:21Speaker 5: the man wouldn't say anything that was in any way meaningful.
- 35:24Speaker 5: But what I found interesting is that so many senators
- 35:27Speaker 5: stood up and made statements or asked questions that inferred
- 35:30Speaker 5: statements that reflected the things that we talked about on
- 35:34Speaker 5: this show. And we were called crazy for things that
- 35:39Speaker 5: people told us could not be true. You know, and
- 35:42Speaker 5: somebody earlier said that Fauci is a mass murderer, and
- 35:45Speaker 5: the conversation popped up twice today in two different settings,
- 35:48Speaker 5: where he was being compared to Pol Pot. Now, you
- 35:51Speaker 5: think about Pol Pot, who we think of as one
- 35:53Speaker 5: of the biggest mass murderers in history, right? The guy
- 35:55Speaker 5: from Cambodia. Well, Pol Pot killed one-third of his population,
- 36:00Speaker 5: so by that rate, he's one of the most significant.
- 36:04Speaker 5: But he only killed two and a half million people.
- 36:06Speaker 5: Cambodia was seven and a half million about the time...
- 36:08Speaker 5: People can look at those numbers more carefully. I haven't
- 36:10Speaker 5: looked at this in a long time. Let's call it
- 36:12Speaker 5: 2.5 million people. Fauci killed more people than Pol Pot
- 36:17Speaker 5: between his sick testing, lying about the disease, lying about
- 36:23Speaker 5: its implications, and enforcing deadly treatments. I actually heard a
- 36:29Speaker 5: senator today, I can't remember who it was, maybe it
- 36:32Speaker 5: was Ron Johnson, who said... that the nurse is called remdesivir, run,
- 36:40Speaker 5: death is near. I heard that from a nurse in Ohio.
- 36:43Speaker 5: I heard that back then. I said that on this
- 36:45Speaker 5: channel a thousand times. They forced these patients to take
- 36:50Speaker 5: deadly treatments they knew were either ineffective or could possibly
- 36:53Speaker 5: kill them. I heard a story once where a nurse said,
- 36:57Speaker 5: She watched somebody carry five treatments or five, you know,
- 37:00Speaker 5: I don't know, doses, if you will, courses of treatment
- 37:03Speaker 5: of remdesivir up to the COVID ward, and then they
- 37:06Speaker 5: carried out five bodies. You know, so these things were
- 37:09Speaker 5: said in the U.S. Congress today. This is something we
- 37:12Speaker 5: couldn't even imagine five years ago when they said we
- 37:16Speaker 5: were all crazy, when we were looking at the numbers
- 37:18Speaker 5: and reading newspapers from around the world and reporting what's
- 37:21Speaker 5: actually going on. So there was a huge breakthrough from
- 37:25Speaker 5: that standpoint. Now, the fact that Fauci sat there looking
- 37:30Speaker 5: a little glum, right? He's used to being praised and
- 37:32Speaker 5: polished by whoever. The way he treated him, of course,
- 37:37Speaker 5: was obscene. So watching him sit there and at least
- 37:41Speaker 5: take some medicine was great. But the point I think
- 37:44Speaker 5: you made earlier in the show, he will never be prosecuted.
- 37:48Speaker 5: And it doesn't matter that he's got a federal pardon.
- 37:51Speaker 5: He's got state issues, too. But he'll never be prosecuted.
- 37:55Speaker 5: None of the thousands of people that are complicit in
- 37:57Speaker 5: the murder of Americans will be dealt with. All those
- 38:03Speaker 5: people who were killed in nursing homes in New York
- 38:06Speaker 5: and Michigan and California and other states, none of that
- 38:08Speaker 5: will be dealt with. So we'll never see justice done.
- 38:13Speaker 5: But at least we're at a point now where the
- 38:15Speaker 5: conversation in Congress is rational and they're talking about real justice.
- 38:20Speaker 5: actual things that happened during that time. We can never
- 38:23Speaker 5: allow the government to do that to us again. Not
- 38:26Speaker 5: create the disease, not force a deadly medicine on us,
- 38:31Speaker 5: and not shut down the economy because, you know, they
- 38:34Speaker 5: want to destroy us and get total dictatorial control.
- 38:38Speaker 2: How about his statement that he made in public versus
- 38:40Speaker 2: what he wrote in his diary?
- 38:42Speaker 3: I mean, he knowingly knew he was lying.
- 38:44Speaker 5: Oh, he knew. He knew.
- 38:46Speaker 9: We knew.
- 38:47Speaker 5: He knew. The only people that didn't know that he
- 38:50Speaker 5: knew were the people that believed ABC, CBS, NBC, you know,
- 38:55Speaker 5: the Wall Street Journal, and the rest of it. If
- 38:57Speaker 5: you were listening to corporate meeting, you thought, well, they're experts.
- 39:00Speaker 5: If you thought that guy that was on CNBC all
- 39:02Speaker 5: the time, can't remember his name, but he was a
- 39:04Speaker 5: board member from Pfizer, and people, Gottlieb, Scott Gottlieb. If
- 39:08Speaker 5: you thought Scott Gottlieb was telling you the truth because
- 39:10Speaker 5: he had a resume, well, then you didn't know what
- 39:14Speaker 5: was going on.
- 39:15Speaker 2: All right.
- 39:16Speaker 3: Hang on there.
- 39:16Speaker 2: Back in a minute. News Radio 570 WKBN.
- 39:22Speaker 3: I'm not the WKBN.
- 39:22Speaker 8: I'm 90 WKBN.
- 39:30Speaker 2: Looking at the countdown, 555 till... We wrap it up
- 39:35Speaker 2: 77 degrees on this Wednesday, July 29th. I mean, the
- 39:38Speaker 2: whole Fauci thing to me, nothing's going to happen to him.
- 39:42Speaker 2: That's what my problem is. I mean, they funded the
- 39:44Speaker 2: lab in Wuhan. And so there's zero accountability for the
- 39:48Speaker 2: damage that was done to the economy, the people that died.
- 39:51Speaker 2: I mean, COVID was a real thing. COVID wasn't fake.
- 39:55Speaker 2: COVID was something created in a... in this gain-of-function lab
- 39:59Speaker 2: in China funded by Fauci. He won't be held accountable.
- 40:03Speaker 2: He won't be held responsible. And basically, they're going to
- 40:08Speaker 2: get away with it, just as the people who perpetrated
- 40:11Speaker 2: the Russian hoax.
- 40:13Speaker 3: Well, pretty much they got away with it.
- 40:16Speaker 2: Everybody says, boy, when Trump gets in office and we're
- 40:18Speaker 2: going to get some degree of justice.
- 40:20Speaker 3: Nothing happens. These people all get away with all of
- 40:24Speaker 3: this craziness that's detrimental to the country.
- 40:27Speaker 2: They hurt the country for three years by saying Russia, Russia, Russia,
- 40:31Speaker 2: Russia when it came to Trump's first election. They hurt
- 40:34Speaker 2: this country. No one's held accountable for that at all.
- 40:39Speaker 3: Zero. What they did with COVID. No one's held accountable
- 40:43Speaker 3: for it. Zero.
- 40:44Speaker 2: So this idea of we'll hold these hearings, they don't
- 40:47Speaker 2: accomplish anything other than informing us of what went on,
- 40:51Speaker 2: which we already knew was what was going on. But
- 40:54Speaker 2: the Democrats still don't believe anything about Fauci, which is
- 40:57Speaker 2: just bizarre to me that they just sit there.
- 41:00Speaker 5: It's not that they don't believe it, Ron. They know
- 41:02Speaker 5: exactly what happened. They're simply covering their position. They know
- 41:05Speaker 5: what happened. They are criminal co-conspirators. Those senators that sat
- 41:09Speaker 5: there today and said there's nothing to talk about, that
- 41:12Speaker 5: it's a shame that this great man is being questioned,
- 41:15Speaker 5: all of them know what happened. None of them are confused.
- 41:19Speaker 5: They are criminal co-conspirators.
- 41:20Speaker 3: But do you know where I'm coming from?
- 41:22Speaker 2: That all of this stuff that we're going to make
- 41:25Speaker 2: sure gets done, it seems like when the Republicans are
- 41:28Speaker 2: finally in that position, there is just zero accountability.
- 41:33Speaker 5: And there you come to the Uniparty. I mean, they
- 41:36Speaker 5: give speeches when they serve in power. When they have
- 41:39Speaker 5: power to actually take action, they do nothing. And it's
- 41:43Speaker 5: the deep state. It's this massive problem we've got with
- 41:45Speaker 5: the federal government and state, local, county, townships, library boards,
- 41:51Speaker 5: school boards. It's all of this. It is a broken model. And,
- 41:55Speaker 5: you know, I think the burden it's placing on the
- 41:58Speaker 5: economy is, is what you keep talking about, this economy
- 42:02Speaker 5: being stressed. When you look at these debt numbers on
- 42:04Speaker 5: the household, you see the rise in defaults for household debt.
- 42:09Speaker 5: You know, you see corporate debts getting in trouble. You
- 42:12Speaker 5: see crazy things like this AI investment, but there's no
- 42:16Speaker 5: economic model that can support it. There's none. There's no
- 42:19Speaker 5: economic model that supports these AI numbers. And yet, they're
- 42:22Speaker 5: dumping trillions in. They want to do a trillion and
- 42:25Speaker 5: a half dollars more on top of what they've already done.
- 42:28Speaker 5: It's insanity... And we're simply a system out of control.
- 42:32Speaker 2: It is just so damn disappointing. And somewhere along the line,
- 42:39Speaker 2: the Republicans haven't codified these executive orders. They haven't got
- 42:45Speaker 2: back to the American agenda. It is just so damn disappointing.
- 42:50Speaker 2: And the Democrats aren't a choice with their wacky agenda.
- 42:56Speaker 5: No, they're not. No. Many Republicans gave MAGA speeches to
- 43:00Speaker 5: get elected, and now they're saying, wait a minute, this
- 43:02Speaker 5: America First thing, that would require good policy. I'm going
- 43:06Speaker 5: to fight that. That's a bunch of them. So the
- 43:09Speaker 5: American people just simply have to put the foot down
- 43:11Speaker 5: and stop accepting it.
- 43:13Speaker 3: Thank you, G2. Appreciate it.
- 43:15Speaker 5: G2.
- 43:16Speaker 3: And a lot to talk about today. Stay tuned. Hannity's
- 43:19Speaker 3: coming up next. Ron Furb checking in with Bob Dieter.