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M-I-Crooked Letter, Crooked Gov’t w/ Diallo Riddle (Fraud Friday) · Scam Goddess

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  Speaker 1: What's poppin Congregation? Is your girl Lacey Mosley aka Scam Goddess.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release
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  Speaker 1: older episodes from the Scam Goddess Bault. That's right, Fraud
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  Speaker 1: Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from
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  Speaker 1: behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall,
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  Speaker 1: and as always, stay scheming Scam, Come.
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  Speaker 2: Rob froll.
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  Speaker 1: Scam, Come Rob's froll, Sam Goddess. What's popping Congregation? It's
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  Speaker 1: your girl, Lacey Mosley and we're back with another installment
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  Speaker 1: of Scam Goddess, the podcast all about robbery, fraud and
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  Speaker 1: those who practice it. Maybe we love them, maybe we
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  Speaker 1: hate them. We don't know yet. Guys. I'm very yes excited,
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  Speaker 1: and we have a friend on the show and a
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  Speaker 1: returning guess. You guys loved his original episode and he
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  Speaker 1: is back. We are welcoming Emmy and WGA nominated writer, actor, showrunner, producer.
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  Speaker 1: He along with his creative partner, also the homie Bashir
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  Speaker 1: salahudin Yes, I got it same butcher's last name and
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  Speaker 1: I love that man to death. They've launched many successful
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  Speaker 1: projects like the hilarious show south Side, which if you
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  Speaker 1: haven't watched South Side, y'all know I'm always talking about
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  Speaker 1: that show on this podcast. It is so good. Their
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  Speaker 1: Emmy winning IFC Variety comedy series, Sherman Showcase is returning
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  Speaker 1: for a second season on October twenty sixth, twenty twenty two. Congregation,
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  Speaker 1: Please welcome Diallo Riddle, what's up, d'ello?
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me back. I'm so excited to
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  Speaker 2: be here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have you. We had such a
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  Speaker 1: good time the last time you were here, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad that we got to snag you on your your
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  Speaker 1: press run for the second season. Congratulation of Sherman Showcase. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: I don't yes, and I popped it. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I hit the cutting room floor, y'all. So I'm
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  Speaker 1: not gonna say I will be on the show, but.
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  Speaker 3: On the show, and I was gonna say it, but like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you're gonna be so happy when you see
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  Speaker 3: what you did.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, who knew that you had such a.
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  Speaker 3: Fantastic singing voice. I mean, like, I feel like it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be so you're gonna absolutely not.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all are all musicians and so talented. I came to
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  Speaker 1: the booth that night to sing and they really helped
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  Speaker 1: me out. Okay, I hope y'all put the t pain
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  Speaker 1: I don't tune on my voice.
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  Speaker 2: We had about thirty background singers.
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  Speaker 3: No, I mean seriously, you have a fantastic, fantastic voice,
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  Speaker 3: and and it's actually a song that we've been trying
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  Speaker 3: to pull together since season one. But just it was
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  Speaker 3: hard logistically because you know, people don't realize that Sherman Showcase,
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  Speaker 3: like all those songs are original. So if they're multiple
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  Speaker 3: writers on a song, or if you know it was
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  Speaker 3: produced by somebody, you know, we have to wait till
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  Speaker 3: all that stuff clears legally and everybody's on the same page.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, I first exclusive. No, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not even gonna say about the song. I want
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  Speaker 3: people to see it. I want people to see it
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  Speaker 3: and love it. And you do a phenomenal job.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you so much. You guys are amazing. Y'all
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  Speaker 1: do everything, literally everything.
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  Speaker 3: We're basically doing craft services, we're serving we're serving oblets
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  Speaker 3: on set, like we just we really do need to
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  Speaker 3: like share the share the space, share the wealth.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you could hire some more people you
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  Speaker 1: could I call it to my fitty Dalla was like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, we got the tape measurer.
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  Speaker 3: We got listen when you're working, even know, people go,
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to get too into the weeds, but
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  Speaker 3: like streaming is one thing when you're actually still dealing
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  Speaker 3: with a linear show, which means like there's still like
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  Speaker 3: sponsors and advertisers and doing the whole thing. Like it's
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  Speaker 3: tough and like that show Sherman Showcase, Like we are
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  Speaker 3: on the budget for a linear show. That means that
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  Speaker 3: show has to come in twenty minutes and thirty seconds,
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  Speaker 3: regardless of how much we want to put into it.
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  Speaker 3: So the fact that you know you made the cut,
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  Speaker 3: so to speak, just speaks to how funny that scene was,
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  Speaker 3: because a lot of stuff is really funny when we
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  Speaker 3: start have to cut it because we got to get
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  Speaker 3: down to twenty minutes and thirty seconds so that they
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  Speaker 3: can advertise soap.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, and I listen. I know how it works
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  Speaker 1: because I told this to Prentice when he was on
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  Speaker 1: the show Prentice Penny from Insecure, but he directed the
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  Speaker 1: episode that I was in a bit Secure. We always
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  Speaker 1: joke about it because it was a dream sequence, and
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  Speaker 1: so I kind of already knew, like, you know, it
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  Speaker 1: may not whatever. And then it didn't make the show
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  Speaker 1: because I have friends, you know, I legal and everywhere
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  Speaker 1: over there. And it was so funny because the hit
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  Speaker 1: me up and they're like, you know, just so you know,
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  Speaker 1: like we got cut, and I was like, okay, that's cool,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was still happy to do it. And
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  Speaker 1: then I remember they put my black ass in the
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  Speaker 1: trailer for season three. Everybody was like, oh my god, congratulations, listen,
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna be Insecure, and I was like, y'all shut up,
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  Speaker 1: shut up, everybody shut up.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, don't even say no.
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  Speaker 3: You know what's funny And sometimes it's better just to
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  Speaker 3: be in the trailer because think about it, more people
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  Speaker 3: will usually see the trailer than the actual movie or
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  Speaker 3: TV show.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: I was very happy because I was like, at least
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  Speaker 1: I made at least they thought I was good enough
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  Speaker 1: to put me in something chill. I was like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: not mad.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I had the same relationship with that show.
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  Speaker 3: Such a fan of Insecure and Issa and Prentice, and
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  Speaker 3: for years they would bring me in for auditions for
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  Speaker 3: parts and I would not get and then I would
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  Speaker 3: watch the episode.
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  Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, okay, so they.
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  Speaker 3: Got okay, so Little Reil's gonna play Lincoln. I I see, y'all.
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  Speaker 3: I see how y'all did me?
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  Speaker 2: You know, like no, but seriously, I was just like
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  Speaker 2: always going in for parts.
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  Speaker 3: And then very last season they were like, we rolle
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  Speaker 3: apart specifically for you to play, and then I got
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  Speaker 3: to get on there and play and you were.
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  Speaker 1: Great, And honestly, I love that season so much. You
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  Speaker 1: were so funny. I mean, you're always so funny in
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  Speaker 1: everything that you do. I could do I just talk
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  Speaker 1: about that forever. But also I will say Insecure is
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  Speaker 1: one of the few shows that could get away with
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  Speaker 1: the character name that I had. When my character name
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  Speaker 1: was black woman, and on the trailer that I was in,
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: it just said black woman and then Lacy. Mostly this
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  Speaker 1: only this black ass show could be like, yes, Negro woman,
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  Speaker 1: that's your character, that's you, And I was I was like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: let's me, excuse me, no, I'm here to play black woman.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know who I am?
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  Speaker 2: That's so funny.
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  Speaker 3: You know, sometimes when we're writing scripts, we'll just in
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  Speaker 3: the script you'll just put like, you know, guy on
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  Speaker 3: the street, and then later in the episode you'll be like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, old guy, and then when you go to cash,
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  Speaker 3: you're like.
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  Speaker 2: Who's old guy? Like what character is that? Like?
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  Speaker 3: It always seems to make sense when you're writing the script,
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  Speaker 3: and then when you get to it, you're just like.
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  Speaker 2: Why weren't we a little more specific?
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  Speaker 1: I just love like actors coming there, like, yes, I'm
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  Speaker 1: here to read for old.
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  Speaker 3: Guys, old guy. And while i'm here, can I read
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  Speaker 3: for black women?
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  Speaker 2: You know? Right?
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  Speaker 1: I also saw a nasty man and I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I would be really great for that.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm very I'm very sensitive what you call, you know,
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  Speaker 3: these characters, because sometimes you just use a shorthand and
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  Speaker 3: then you'll be like, do we really want to bring
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  Speaker 3: in somebody to read for the part of stupid man?
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  Speaker 2: And you know, like you'll just be.
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  Speaker 3: Like, maybe we should be a little more or just
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  Speaker 3: give him a name, just call them, you know, Clarence.
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  Speaker 3: Shout out to all the people named Clarence out there.
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  Speaker 3: I ain't trying to say anything in particular about Clarence.
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  Speaker 1: My daddy named Claire is about it.
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  Speaker 2: One of my you know, and he's brilliant.
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  Speaker 1: So I love that, But no, I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of actors are disensitized to it now because a lot
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  Speaker 1: of us start out in commercial work, and commercial there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing more disrespectful than a commercial audition breakdown. They'd be like,
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  Speaker 1: we're looking for uglies.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen that in scripts, and I'm like, y'all, we.
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  Speaker 3: Just just retired to you word man, I get it,
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  Speaker 3: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: We're in comedy. We're not supposed to. But like, I
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  Speaker 2: always feel bad for the people who come in.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I hope you have enough self respect to
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  Speaker 3: know that, Like, we don't actually think of you like that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, now they code it. They're like, we're looking for
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  Speaker 1: real types, faces that have character.
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  Speaker 2: Talking all around it, right right down to down to
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  Speaker 2: earth roommate. I know what that is. I'm aware.
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  Speaker 1: Slot we need somebody who smile, has never lived up
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  Speaker 1: a room. Okay, that's what we're looking for. But they
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  Speaker 1: don't have to ask you on the show. We always
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: ask you, know you've been on the show before. What's
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: your relationship with scams? Do you love them? Do you
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  Speaker 1: hate them? It could literally be anything. If you run
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: some outside the statute of limitations, if some have been
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  Speaker 1: run on you literally anything.
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  Speaker 3: I'd like to be very honest you know when I'm
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  Speaker 3: talking to you, and I am not a nark, but
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  Speaker 3: I am definitely not the person to share your scams
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  Speaker 3: with because I don't want to know. Like I just
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  Speaker 3: I feel like I was on that phar Real thing.
• 8:28
  Speaker 3: I saw that video ofhar Real talking about like, don't
• 8:31
  Speaker 3: don't talk to me because I will snitch. Like I'm
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  Speaker 3: definitely like the person like I don't want to know,
• 8:36
  Speaker 3: Like you know, just let me just think that you
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  Speaker 3: afford that Rolex just.
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  Speaker 2: Through completely legal means. I don't want to know.
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: So if you go to the investigation room, you're like,
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: give me a pen and paper, I'll tell y'all everything.
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  Speaker 2: I want to deny. I don't even want plausible deniability.
• 8:50
  Speaker 2: I want deniability.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to be like, hey, I just thought
• 8:53
  Speaker 3: that they were buying those McLarens with their you know,
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  Speaker 3: Grandma savings.
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  Speaker 1: Like I just right.
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  Speaker 2: That.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I remember when PPE was the thing, and
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  Speaker 3: I was definitely looking into it. But by the time
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: I looked into it, like I feel like they sniffed
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  Speaker 3: it all out, Like I didn't get any of that PPE.
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  Speaker 2: So there you go.
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  Speaker 1: I wish I had because so many entertainers were like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I do have a s corp. I am a company.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody listen, everybody I know is getting that ppe money,
• 9:23
  Speaker 3: and I you know, everybody kind of needed it at
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: the time, especially like if you did stand up or
• 9:27
  Speaker 3: you know, like I have some DJ friends who were like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm never gonna make money again, like it was, it
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  Speaker 3: was lean time.
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: It was Oh the DJs. Think of the DJs. You
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: know what I will say, I feel for the DJs
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  Speaker 1: because I feel like there's a certain amount there's certain
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: careers that, until you become wildly successful, they are extremely embarrassing.
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  Speaker 1: And so I would say acting no the number one
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: so sorry out there, but the number one career that
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  Speaker 1: is shameful until you get on is being a rapper.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 3: Nobody, nobody, not even the DJ no, but the DJ
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  Speaker 3: is like, hey, you got to play this song for
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: this dude at midnight.
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: He's gonna get out of here and wrap.
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: You're like, okay, No, nobody wants to listen to your mixtape. No,
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  Speaker 1: nobody wants to hear you do a freestyle. It's embarrassing.
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: And then I love it when I love it when
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  Speaker 3: you like in a movie inevitably, like if there's a
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: character who's a rapper, and like they have that inevitably
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: they have some scene where like they're performing in a
• 10:25
  Speaker 3: nightclub and somehow everybody's.
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: Nightclub is really into like that. I've never seen that. IDJ.
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  Speaker 3: So many nightclubs where they're like, put this song and
• 10:33
  Speaker 3: the rapper's gonna come out and do a song. Like
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: those be the the most dead crowds you've ever seen.
• 10:39
  Speaker 3: Like at some point they have to get up and
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: wrap somebody else's lyrics just to get somebody you know
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  Speaker 3: up for their song, and it's just painful.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Parker said, we can'tnot know you and not know
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  Speaker 1: the song, and so movies are always lying when they
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: have like a rapper somebody come up on stage, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like Pea Valley, like Little Murder or like whatever. That's
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: my favorite TV trope because it's so fake. If we heard, oh,
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: it's so any music that was new from a rapper,
• 11:06
  Speaker 1: we're like, get this man off this boo this.
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: Man, serious boo, this man.
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  Speaker 3: And it could even be somebody who you liked, but
• 11:13
  Speaker 3: they're like, hey, y'all, I'm about to do a new
• 11:15
  Speaker 3: song and you're like, all right, let me go get
• 11:17
  Speaker 3: a drink, right, No sound a new song, Like I
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: really just came here to hear the song that's on
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  Speaker 3: Powered this week.
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  Speaker 1: You know what's a good example Versus whenever the Verses
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  Speaker 1: people come out and they start doing their new material.
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  Speaker 1: That's not like the old Hiss. Everybody's like turn this
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  Speaker 1: shit off, omor y'all, we don't want to hear your
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  Speaker 1: new song. Get out here in dwice box.
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  Speaker 2: Why you gotta call it out? My man?
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  Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, it's just like you know, that's that's when
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: you check and see who else is live right there
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: right like a shout out to shout out to the
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  Speaker 3: Swiss and Temper because I feel like they worked out
• 11:50
  Speaker 3: their whole you know, situation with Versus.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they really did they they they I think
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: they went in person too quickly, just a little anxiety.
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  Speaker 1: But the only thing that bothered me about it is
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: that they were in Atlanta, you know, like they would
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: have after parties that like Compound and stuff like that.
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: And if you don't know what Versus Versus started on
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: Instagram live and that was when it was amazing. It
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  Speaker 1: was just artie.
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  Speaker 3: It is what we needed during the pandemic because it
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  Speaker 3: was just like, oh, people were still alive out there
• 12:17
  Speaker 3: and they were in their home studios going track for
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: track this this is my song versus your song.
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  Speaker 1: It was great with terrible Wi Fi, the worst tech
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  Speaker 1: you've ever seen, and it was amazing.
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  Speaker 3: Down right, like he could have never known that his
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  Speaker 3: legacy would be forever, forever be tied to the the
• 12:36
  Speaker 3: his Wi Fi band with it's just not fake.
• 12:38
  Speaker 1: Like bruh hed cricket WiFi, Like, where did you get
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: this Wi Fi? My guy? It's terrible. We're praying for you.
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: Still think about the uncle who was behind them in
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: the hoody dancing.
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  Speaker 2: I just thought about that guy last night, just like
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: that dude.
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  Speaker 3: Had no idea he was ever gonna be famous for
• 12:53
  Speaker 3: that dancing in the background.
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  Speaker 1: He is literally a meme. But yeah, so I love that.
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  Speaker 1: So y'all, don't tell don't tell Dyello what crimes you're doing,
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: because he doesn't want to know. I want to know, though,
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  Speaker 1: I want to know. Scam God, it's time for what's
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: time for? This is what we warn you guys about
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: popping scams on the zeitgeist, or we get a letter
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  Speaker 1: from you all as always snitch on your friends, your family,
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  Speaker 1: and your enemies. At scam got his pot at gmail
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  Speaker 1: dot com. Just make sure the scam is retired because
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: we don't want to what Yes, fuck up your bag,
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  Speaker 1: all right? So I need a fake name yellow for
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  Speaker 1: this person. We don't care about gender. Also, I know
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: the last time you were on it was a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a gotcha because you were honoring your son
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  Speaker 1: by giving the scammer your son's name, and then the
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  Speaker 1: scammer ended up it being a nasty person. So we
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  Speaker 1: won't do your kids like that.
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  Speaker 2: I apologize to him when you know, like a teenager,
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: and you don't.
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  Speaker 1: Have to apologize to him. Children are a scam. He
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: living in your house, rent free. He doing good, okay?
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  Speaker 1: He he got a daddy making that TV coin. Oh, he
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: doing great.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that's his daddy's money. That's his daddy's money. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not passing you on.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's his money too. That's his money too. My
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: mom always said, my money is my money, but Joe
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  Speaker 1: money is our money. There you go, and I live
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  Speaker 1: by that. So give me a fake name for this
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  Speaker 1: person if you could.
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  Speaker 3: Uh. I want to say Clarence, but I won't do
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  Speaker 3: that to you.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, he was gonna try to use when my daddy's
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  Speaker 1: wows or no.
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  Speaker 2: See, you know what, why don't we say, here's the
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  Speaker 2: safe name? Jonah?
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  Speaker 1: Jonah? Okay, yeah, Jonah sounds like he definitely was in
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  Speaker 1: church choir.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I don't know. I don't know any do I.
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: I don't think I know a single Jonah. So I
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: think I'm saying.
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so we're not. I don't know any either
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: except for the heel one met him.
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: Once, and so I'm still saying.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: You're still saying you're still safe. So Jonah says, this
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: past summer, I woofed on a goat farm. Okay, Jonah,
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: what is wolfing? It says if you aren't familiar, which
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: I am not, thank you, Jonah Wolfing. And its spelled
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: w W O O F I n G and they've
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: doon'a spelled it twice, so this is not a mistake.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: So this is what it is called. It's an international
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: co op where you work on an organic farm in
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: exchange for free housing and food. This unfortunately meant that
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: I did not get paid and as a broke college
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: student paying dead rent while I was farming mind you
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: that fucking sucked.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: Okay, working on a farm and not getting paid sounds
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: perilously like something from the history of black people.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's giving twelve years.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: Hey guys, it's a co op. It's a co op.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: That sounds like a rebrand. Also, get your.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: Kids, that's how I got the black people. Hey, y'all,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: we got we got a co op for y'all. It's
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: an unpaid internship.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Overseas co op. You get to see a whole new continent.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Right, Have y'all ever heard of cotton?
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: God, No, nothing funny about slavery, but something very funny
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: about rebranding it a herd, girl boss reband. Okay, this
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: is a co op, guys. You know so at the time,
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Jonah says they were a college student, but they're working
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: on this co op. They said they're paying dead rent,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: which I'm trying to understand. Is that, like you have,
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: you're paying rent at the place that you're not living
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: at right now.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't make any sense, which I've had to do.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: So that kind of sounds like maybe that's what they're implying.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: So on the farm, my fellow woofers and I did
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of manual labor, feeding goats, dogs, cats, and
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: chickens in parentheses. Fuck chickens.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Chickens are animals, man.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, that makes me feel better about eating them.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: It's like the chickens are assholes. You heard it here first,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: So get that prochiserie. Okay, this probably tastes so good.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: All the angst love that for us. So it says
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I was moving heavy farm equipment and water buckets, milking goats,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: catching chickens. Again, I can't emphasize it's enough. Chickens. They
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: are not only stinky and stupid, but ugly as hell.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Meat chickens, even ethically raised ones, are foul and a
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: pain in the ass. Damn, you really gotta beef with
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: with chickens.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: It really is, it really is.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: I've never seen somebody hated chickens so much. Jonah's really so,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: it says the most importantly working at various farmer's markets.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna pause here, Jonah, because I haven't even
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: gotten to your scam yet or what the scam is.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: But obviously we see the scam of the co op
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: where you're not getting paid but somebody is making money
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: from the labor you're doing. Also, you said that y'all
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: were out here doing like organic farm work. I don't
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: know why my brain because I guess like farms are animals,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: and then like what are they called when they making food?
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: What I thought, don't you grow.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Crops on a Yeah?
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, it's that. That's what That's what a
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: farm is there to do.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, because I was thinking of immediately when I saw like
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: the farm thing, organic farm that we were talking about,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: like picking berries and fruits and whatnot. But we're talking
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: about like ranch hand activities.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Now this sounds like way too much work.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Wait, not worth it. I would just get a job
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: where I could like, you know, quiet, quit every day.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I could be out here boxing
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: you know, chickens and shit every day. It feels like
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: a lot.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Software if you quit your job on a ranch but
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: you don't know how to get back to the city.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Quit now like this, can continue to ride to the train.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: That's how they get you, man. They take you to
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: some place where you can't leave.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Right because where you're gonna go, where you're gonna go. No,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: So some important context. The farmers' markets we went to
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: were in a major city, so people did not bat
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: an eye at eight dollars a dozen, like for a
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: dozen of eggs, or twelve dollars for half a gallon
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: of goat milk. All this to say the guy who
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: runs the farm did just find financially. Yeah, I'm sure
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: he take us away. He's providing y'all like fruit snacks
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: and a family meal, and he already got that houses.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: It's not like he got to read pay for the
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: houses that he got y'all land up in, and he's
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: not paying you for labor, and he's going to the
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: city and charging a bunch of yuppies, you know, twelve
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: dollars for half a gallon of goat milk.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Mmm. I feel like I feel like this is Arawuan's right.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: It is, but he's like, yeah, we erawan, but like
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: really farm to table. And when we say you in nowhere,
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: you are in nowhere, and that's why you go stay,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: that's why you can't leave.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I gotta say I was so old when I figured
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: out that erawan was basically nowhere spelled backwards with like
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: a slight change to make it a little more pronounceable,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: and that kind of blew my mind.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: It didn't to me because I grew up in the
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: age of you know, young moms naming their kids Nevea.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: So I was ready. I was like, I just seen
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: the team mom's name and their baby Nevea. It's heaven
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: spelled backwards. And if you ever meet in Nevea, they
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: will say, hi, my name is Nevea. It's Heaven spelled backwards.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: They'll let you know. So I'm always looking. So to
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: compensate for our work at the farmer's market, the guy
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: who runs the farm gave us each a fifteen dollars
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: allowance to spend on lunch. However, a big part of
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: the farmer's market culture among vendors is training my fellow
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: wolfers and I would typically trade eggs or milk or
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: various goods for communal kitchen. Because of this, rather than
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: spend my fifteen dollars on lunch, I go up to
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: the meal vendors, usually the Ethiopian place, because the food
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: was scrumptious and the guy who worked there was so
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: damn fine.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's just be honest.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: Ethiopians are just an amazingly good looking people.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: They are general, they are.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: You know, people back at college used to be like, yeah, Yellow,
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: you know he liked the Ethiopians.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I mean there are baddies. They're a culture of baddies.
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, really.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: But I love that, you know, Jonahs giving us so
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: many details in here. Love this letter.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: It doesn't sound like a scam yet it's something he
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: got scammed.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I am too. I don't know if
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: it's coming because we're almost at the end of this letter.
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: I hope he's not scammed Ethiopians because honestly, they've been
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: through a lot.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they have.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: We don't need to scam them.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: So it says I'd go up to the Ethiopians and
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: I'd offer to trade a dozen eggs for a meal
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: and a drink. Sometimes I'd trade eggs for popsicles or
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: fruit to munch on during the market too. I have
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: no regrets or remorse that I probably lost him over
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: one hundred dollars worth of products all in all, and
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I'd absolutely do it again. Okay, Jonah, I don't think
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: you ran a scam here, baby. I think a scam
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: was being run on you, and I'm glad that you
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: realize you needed to get involved.
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I don't know, sound like an effective scam
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: to me, I guess because nobody's taking notes on Jonah's scam.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Well, if you think about it, if it was eight
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: dollars for a carton of eggs, right, and he's selling
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: eggs to other trade and eggs all the time. So
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: the money that wasn't you know, gained by actually selling
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: the eggs because he was bartering something that didn't belong
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: to him, is a little bit of a scam because
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: he's keeping his little fitteen dollar siping true, and he's
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: also bartering with products that he technically should have been selling,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: and so I get what he's saying. But at the
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: same time, like, Jonah, baby, you were not being paid
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: for your labor and then the allowance was fifteen dollars
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: for lunch, and that was your labor working the farmer's market,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: meaning they're not paying you on all spronts. Like, so
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: you definitely should have stolen more. You know, I'm proud
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: of you, but like you know, you could have. You
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: could have n.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: There's some people under my roof who I give an
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: allowance to, who I let them stay here for free,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: and I don't respect their scams either, So I think
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Jonah needs to take a step back, and really, how's
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: he going to mass wealth when he's earning a child's
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: allowance and like scamming eggs.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: I just think this is.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, how is anybody going to amass wealth without
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: being born into it or taking it?
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: You know that part is That part is sadly true.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Yes, I feel like there are some better ways to
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: cheat the system than this.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, like he could have went harder. He definitely could
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: have wit harder. But at the same time, Jonah, I'm
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: glad you were satisfied with your scam. You didn't get greedy,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: you didn't get caught, because I would hate for, you know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the farm to be like you're fired and then drop
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: you off in the middle of nowhere and you know,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: you got a hitchhike back home. That sounds like a
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: horror movie. But I also just don't see a world
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: where the farmer, even if you were still ot of eggs.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he knew he was losing some, but he's
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: making so much money on free labor. On every side,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: he's taking it.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: He's cacking, and he's just calling his unpaid labor co op.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: I think that that's the person let's talk to Jonahs's boss,
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: because I feel like that's the scam that I'm taking
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: away from this one.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: It absolutely is. And also the rebranding he gave y'all
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: like a community, calling y'all wolfers, so now y'all got
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: a sense of kinship, and he calling it a co
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: op instead of unpaid physical labor. You know, the real
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: scam is the farmer here. Oh McDonald's.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: The person at the top, is the person at the top,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: who's got the best scam?
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, quickly, oh McDonald's, say ei yo con you know,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: so he was the one who really won here. But
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you got a little bit. I'm glad you
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: feel good about it. And you should definitely not feel
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: bad about training some eggs with some sexy Ethiopians and
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: having a great meal, you know, while you worked for free.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: So thanks.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: With these Ethiopians who lived off the flor I want
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: to know about them, that seems like a you know,
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: the fun thing about me is that I do have
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: a bit of a fascination with Ethiopian culture.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: My brother was a Rastafarian, and you.
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Know, like I feel like for the time I was born,
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: he's twenty years older than me.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: But from the time I was born.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: I was always exposed to like all these various parts
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: of Ethiopian culture, even more than Jamaican culture, which is interesting.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: But whenever possible, I try to incorporate Ethiopian culture into
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: our writing. So on Sherman Showcase, you know, Sherman always
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: ends up owing the Ethiopian Mob, which is not even
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: not even a nationality that has a mob as far
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: as I know, But I just thought it'd be funny
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: if you own a like a group of people who
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: aren't known for having a mob. He owns the Ethiopian
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: Mob a ton of money, so every time Opian person
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: shows up on set.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: He gets a little bit nervous because he's not.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Sure, you know, if they're there to shake him down.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Exactly, if they're there to collect a debt. And I'm
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: actually happy to say that. You know, anybody who's seen
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: season one of the show knows that there was a
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: there was a pretty prominent scene with the Actually no
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: it's not season one.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: It was the Blacks History special.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we did something with the Ethiopia mobl some of
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: those characters come back in season two, so and then very.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Fun, yes, very fun. I also love like taking mob
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: tropes but putting them on a culture that isn't as
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: like stereotypically, you know, like my daughter's wedding, you know,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: like what's the Hiven version of that?
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Man, I love that. Shermy Shocks is so funny. Guys.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: If you guys haven't gotten into the first season, you
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: have a chance to binge the first season before the
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: second season comes out October twenty sixth. So em run
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: and it's time for me to regale. Y'allo the famous
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: con Caper group of criminals. Will see if we like them,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: we'll see if we hate them. I am going to stop.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: The story was first broke and investigated by Mississippi Today's
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Anna Wolf in her article. Much of the research came
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: from her summary and discussion with Congressman Ronnie Shows on
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: his radio podcast Mississippi Today's, and Wolf explains sprawling welfare
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: fraud case. So if you want to get into that
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: podcast from more details, if you want to get into
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Ann Wolf's writing, y'all know we don't scam the writers here,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: so you can also do that. It'll be in our footnotes.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: On any platform that you listen to this, you can
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: click on the link. All right, so you probably got
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: an inclination of where we're going here, do y'allo. But
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: what first looked like a former pro footballer CosIng up
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: to the Mississippi governor for a little volleyball stadium has
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: now blown up into a statewide corruption case that implicates
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: the entire county's welfare system in a fraud case involving
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: pro wrestlers and former athletes. Millions in state welfare funds
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: have been misappropriated. And I love the term misappropriated because
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: it gives me officer involved shooting, you know what I mean,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: like just thinks that the and I wish that the
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: news is scamming us all by writing things in a
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: way that makes the crime less. It makes it more docile,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: and it's incredibly irresponsible. So I'm looking at y'all journalists,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you know, coming out here with this officer involved. No,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: they shot someone, then just say what it is. Okay,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: we don't need the QT language to be like that
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: they murdered someone, and we don't need the QT language
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: to be like misappropriated. They weren't misappropriate, they were stolen.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: I don't get to I don't get to misappropriate at target.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: I don't get to misappropriate at Blue me Dale exactly right.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I just know I just misappropriated all this stuff in
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: my purse, that's all. This is just a red tape issue, y'all.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Y'all making it why y'll put me in cuffs. No,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: this is just a misunderstanding. I misappropriated this car.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: Half of the white collar crime is just really sophisticated shoplifting.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: It is, and we need to start calling it that,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and also stop calling that white collar like it's higher
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: brow than blue collar.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: Crime, and that isn't that really twisted? Like they're like,
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I stole, but I.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Was in a double breasted suit, Like.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: What do you mean double breasted crime?
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I dressed up for this robbery. Don't put me in
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: the category with the burglars. Okay, I'm just misappropriating. Somebody
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: home what you're talking about. Okay, we picked the lock,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: We didn't throw a brick through the window. We are classy. Okay.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: So the network the fraud for which six people have
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: faced criminal charges, and Brett Favre, who was already a
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: nasty man, it's fast for really.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: I hate to say it, but like about the head
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: coach of the Celtics that I did about Brent barb
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: which is really disturbing when you consider the scope and
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: the damage that one person did compare to the other.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Right, and this is not his first time being a
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: nasty man, and you know, he's just continuing his legacy
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: of being gross. And I went to Pitt at the time,
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: you know, when the situation came out with him when
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: he was playing football, and you know, it was just
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: it's disgusting. So he's never been a good dude, and
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: so it's not shocking that he continues to just be
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: a piece of shit. So at its core, it involves
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: funneling tens of millions in funds in a tha NF,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: which is a temporary assistance for needy families to places
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: that aren't needy families. So you know, this money has
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: been allocated to help people, and this is one of
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: the poorest states in the country, Mississippi. They're having all
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: these water problems right now. Also because the infrastructure money
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: that they were given somehow didn't go to the infrastructure
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: that they were supposed to be you know, rebuilding or fixing,
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: and now we're seeing the consequences of that as well.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: So you're dealing with an extremely corrupt, you know, governance
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: in Mississippi, on top of the fact that they already have,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: you know, a really bad education system. Some of the
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: people are in the most dire straints in our country,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: and then on top of that, everyone is grifting them.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: Us.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: It's insane. So TA andF was introduced in nineteen ninety
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: six as a welfare reform intended to end poverty. It
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: ended direct cash payments to poor families with children and
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: instead gave states a grant that had the flexibility to
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: use it as they see fit for families that met eligibility.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: And I don't know why. At no point nobody thought,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: you know, we got an idea.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: Instead of just giving them money directly to the people
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: who need it, what if we give it to people
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: who probably will take it, but you know.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: They'll decide if you're worthy of getting it. Like, why
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: do we add another middle manage?
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Why?
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: I mean, like, no, let's not give it directly to
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: the people who needed Let's give it to the people
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: who kind of load the people who need it, you know,
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: Like I mean, this is honestly, this is Mississippi where
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: I do feel like the government.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: Is not really responsive to the needs of.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: The people if they If they were, they wouldn't consistently
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: be ranked last in some of the places where they are.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: And so it's so lame.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: And this is actually in some ways related to the fact,
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: not to get too deep into the weeds, but it's
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: related to the fact that, like even right now, the
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: Supreme Court is going to decide I believe, whether you know,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: the state legislature has the right to jerrymander the states,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: so that basically all the poor people are in one district,
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: but they're outnumbered by all these other, you know, districts
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: that are more rural.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: It's messed up, man.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: It truly is. And also, like just an analogy here,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: imagine if your worst enemy, like the person who hates
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: you the most, like the person who's like, I'm your
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: number one hater. You know, if you've got a hater,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: it's me. If you've got a million haters, I'm one
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: of them. You know, if you got zero haters, I've
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: left this earth. Imagine if that person is it is
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: in charge of giving you money. But yeah, we gave
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: the money to your hater, which you mean you ain't
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: get it, But we literally gave the check to your hater,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: and we say give it to them. They didn't. Oh, okay, that's.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Why that didn't make it through. Oh it must be
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: the post Office. We'll cut their funding too.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Yoh, that's wild, Carni b you didn't get your money.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: We gave it to the barbs. They didn't. They didn't
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: give it to you. That's wild. That's why they said
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: they were gonna give it to you. Okay. So the
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: criteria by which it operates, it's deeply embedded in stereotypes
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: and assumptions about poor families that especially harm poor black women.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: So if you haven't heard our episode on the Welfare Queen,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: there's also one that I did on Your Wrong About
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: with Sarah Marshall about the Welfare Queen and how it
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: was completely propaganda and lies that Reagan told to demonize
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: black women with the bases, and it was just Linda Taylor,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: so it was specifically about her, and he said that
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: she stole like one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: year and was over here living good on chicken with
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: ninety kids and stealing all the welfare money, and in reality,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: she misappropriated about eight thousand dollars over her crime spree Caurier.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: So you know, it really created a damaging stereotype.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: For which goes on to this day.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: Yep, you know, to this day you can say the
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: term welfare queen and unfortunately, I think a lot of
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: people think they know what that is.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I'll be honest, I do know a welfare queen.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: She died at the age of ninety six in the
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: UK and she lived off there, the taxpayer died her
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: entire life.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: And yes, she was a welfare queer.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: And I will say that welfare queen was probably it's
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: definitely the one who goes down in history as the
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: one who stole the most because even when she died,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: they took her body. They took her body on a tour.
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: They you know what I mean, world tour.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: When it is came for her funeral, flew in a
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: bunch of people on private I mean like she really
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: did it big.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: She really did she did it big.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: And you could even you know, sign up to a
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: stand in line and go see the person who robbed
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: you for your entire life and probably more than your life,
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: because she's was older than most.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Living people, was taken from our ancestors.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: So you know, I think it's uh, I think it's
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: very telling that you know, once again, white collar crime
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: is okay, and if you are really rich and well connected,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: you can definitely benefit from government, government assistance your entirely.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: All the time, Americans. We have it with our corporations,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: you know, bailouts like you know, even PPPs that went
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: to really rich people who got their PPP loans forgiven.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: And yet we're over here getting mad at people who
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: make less than one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: year of getting some of their student loans of raised.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: You know, there's always welfare for the rich, and there's
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: not welfare of the port. So you're absolutely right. And
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Lizzie was out here grifted with the best job Hodney.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: And my favorite thing was Lizzen are stealing diamonds from
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: you know, Africa, talking about they gave South Africa gave
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: it to her as a gift. Specially nobody to give
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: you that diamond as no damn gift. The whole British
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Museum is literally just loop. They're like, come see the
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: ship we stole. We ain't got no culture over here.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: We made up them. We just talked about the pilled
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: down Man on this podcast, which was literally like the
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: UK's version of Lucy, Like they were trying to say
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: this was the first person that you know, ever lived
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: on Earth and it was really just a collection of
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: monkey skulls and mandibles from other places. And you know,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: they even had a fake back and talking about oh
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: he had a first man played cricket and he loved
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: to tay, like, get some culture, UK.
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're basically an island, and yet we're
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: all speaking the island language right now.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: So it isn't that wild. They're like, what you're talking about,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: we gave you your native tongue. No, this wasn't.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: It, and you know it was.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: It wasn't because everybody's like, you know what, that language
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: sounds really good. We'll voluntarily I'll start talking that language, like, No,
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: that's not how it happened, right.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: You're like English busting, y'all. No, put me on a
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: native tongue. Put that shit down. Okay.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: We have contributed a lot to the language, and by nothing,
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: if nothing, is more offensive to my children than when
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: I try to like speak current slang. Like I'll be like, hey, guys,
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: these eggs are busting and they're like they're skin crawls.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: You can see them like crawlitic shell. I love it.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: It's one of my joys as a parent.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: And I love that for you. That's you get to
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: you get to corny, corny out for your kids. Yeah,
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: and you know, and embarrassed them, you know, pick them
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: up from school, like what's up my guy?
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Exactly, I enunciate so hard, like there's like I put
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: the G on everything and being.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: An I in G Like it's great. It's so much
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: fun to see them die a little bit inside.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Ah, love that for you, the joys of being a parent.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: So though other states face corruption and misuse of funds,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: in Mississippi it appears a network of officials and their
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: friends walked into the unchecked welfare bank and cleaned house.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: So basically, you know, other states are stealing, we know
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: that the government is corrupt. They're just a fucking shakedown.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: But this is a unique situation because at least in
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: some other states you might have of somebody looking into
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: the fraud. Everybody was like, oh, we the game. They
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: were like, no, we all are going to do crime together.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: One two three, every hand in crime and then they
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: work together. They worked together as a team. Okay uh.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: And so this is why it was, you know, continuing
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: for so long unchecked, because everybody was a part of it.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: They were like, what do you mean, we're all doing
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: the crime. So most of the investigations surrounding the fraud
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: has centered on a number of low level government employees.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: The director of the Mississippi Department of Human Services, John Davis,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: was found to have funneled millions of TA andF money
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: to a nonprofit, the Mississippi Community Education Center. All right, now,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: if you see John, if I saw this motherfucker anywhere,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I would never let him touch a penny, let alone
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: millions of anybody's funds. He looks nice.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: He looks like Mississippi's answer to Mikhail Gorbishi. He looks
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: like I would not trust this man with anything like that.
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: First off, that tie just tell me he's definitely skipped
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: out on the bill at the steakhouse with his friends.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: For he was just like, oh, I gotta go, I'll
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: hit you back.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if he's doing that. I feel
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: like John, like, yeah, I got to run to the
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: bathroom real quickly. Did y'all say John took his coat
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: to the bathroom, like wait, you know he's not coming back.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: The bathroom isn't even towards the front doors. I don't
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: know what that was about.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: Is here a car peeling off? Like no, he's not
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: gonna pay this bill. And he got the most food.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: He was the one who said we should get another
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: bottle of wine.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Let's do a family style. Let's do a family style.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: And also John's tie is giving like cosplain like a
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: poor public servant, you know what I mean? He was like,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: what's gonna give the girls? I have a stolen millions
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: of dollars? This pays the ugly ass tie, you know,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: and dude, not him.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: No.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: And also I love the name of this nonprofit.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Missus the headline the second you say it again, because
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: I know that that's corrupt.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Right there, Mississippi Community Education Center. What does that mean?
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: It's words, man, it's We're education center.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: You know what it's giving. It's giving. You guys served
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: like we gotta dance and raise money to close so
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: the community service or center don't close down because little
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Saint gotta go there.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: You know. It's like, what are you?
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: What education are you giving? Is the education for children?
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Is it for like, you know, people learning? Is a
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: community college? Are people learning a trade? What is it?
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: It's so vague, it's just like it's it goes towards
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: why I think Monte Jordan's this is how we do It.
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: It's such a brilliant title for a song because it
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: can be used in any setting. It's like launching a business,
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: and it can be like, hey guys, this is how
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: we do it. Like it's so it's a lot of words,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: but it means nothing. This is how we got clear.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Who is we do it?
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: What is it?
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Brilliant?
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: It's freaking brilliant. It can be anything from a movie
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: premiere to like going to jail. This is how we're doing.
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: They said, we got a nod profit. It's called Charity
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: for all in needy.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Charity for those in need of what? Of? What?
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: And what are you giving them?
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: No?
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: No, I don't know. Worry about all that. Don't worry
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: about that. Okay.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Oh you asked a lot of questions. Why you hate charity.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: You can't even go there because you'll get in trouble.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: My charity is just called giving. Okay, No, we don't
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: know what it's giving.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: We don't know the Giving Foundation of California.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, oh man, okay, that's it. That's my charity. Let
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: me go get my LLC together. Okay, the foundation.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: We need when you get a nice vague name, right.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: The center was supposed to have been a performing and
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: subcontracting activities that fell under th a n F criteria,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: and accepting money is legal so long as the center
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: actually conducted those activities. That is also a very vague sentence.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: They are supposed to be performing and subcontracting activities that
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: fell under t n a F criteria. So we don't
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: know what those activities are. We don't know what the subc.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: We don't know what you're the subcontracting is so vague.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Instead of that money going to needy families, the head
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: of the center, Nancy Knew, kicked it back to Davis,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: his friends and family and her family. They said, we
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: are needy of these millions as well. Define needy because
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I need a new Bentley and and that to me,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: I'm in need of a new mansion.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, here's the thing.
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: She she was in need of new short sleeve red
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: dresses like that was very important to her. And you
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: know she had to she had to increase her collection
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: of just ridiculously banging red.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: You could have got some better fascists. But I will
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: say her hair is laid. She got the feather bang,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: the highlights are fresh. She said, I am in need
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: of a cut and blowout, okay, and I'm gonna get it.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: She she partially did that through establishing a state sanctioned
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: initiative called Families First. Oh, I love these big ass names,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: which essentially privatized a large amount of this, you know,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: government money that was you know, intended for the people
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: in need. The goal of the initiative isn't entirely clear, though,
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: New said Families First does exist, and their mantra was
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: this is their quote, all the good stuff already being
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: done out there, so that's what they're supporting. They were like,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: they said, are we're.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Pro good stuff?
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: The initiative with Family First is to do good for people.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: They didn't even have to say what good was just
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: good stuff.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: They didn't even say what the stuff was. A're like,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: what do you mean we did good stuff? We ain't
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: gonna give them the money, nobody.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: Is this a pro Kanye organization? Are they supporting good music?
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: Like the word good have like dots in it. I'm
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: so confused.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: You know, good stuff, but come on out.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Stop.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Of course, Davis's nephew was paid four hundred thousand dollars
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: to create coding academies and quotes for the two nonprofits.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: So he got almost half a million dollars and this
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: is her nephew.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Now see I believe in coding. I mean I've sent
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: my kids to coding camps, so that's that's a legit thing.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: But like I'm sure that there was no coding going
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: go ahead.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: This is this is four hundred thousand dollars yellow to
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: create the coding academy.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Uh see, I see. That's how the criminal mind works.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Is like I'm thinking, like I'm giving so much benefit
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: of the doubt, but they're just like, no, I'm just
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: getting half a million dollars to come up with the idea.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: It's mostly for thinking I need half a million dollars
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: to think about the coding camps we're gonna do.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: See, these thoughts ain't free. That's where I've I've given
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: away the cow.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: You know, these people are just.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Really I need them to represent me in Hollywood because
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: clearly I'm working.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Too hard, right, were hustling backwards because we could have
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: just been having vague phrases of parents, I'm gonna.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: Start, I'm gonna I need half a million dollars to
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: come up with a code switching camp, and we're all
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: we're gonna do is tell people how they can switch
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: up their code to get ahead in life.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna mull on it with that half a
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: mill and then we're gonna, you know, get the ideas percolating. However,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: the nephew knew nothing about computer programming as such, he
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: produced nothing.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Well, but you know, at some point, you you know,
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: not every idea is gonna work out.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Sometimes he thought about it.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: He thought about he thought about it. You guys stopped haiding.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: He thought about it, and he got, yes, more money
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: than most of us will ever make.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: But he did. He did think. We can assume.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Because he was using it for thought. Okay, how can
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: we disprove that he used different thoughts.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he probably he might have to use different thoughts,
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: but that's a whole different conversation.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Y'all don't know what he was thinking. Y'all can't prove
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: that he didn't use a four hundred thousand dollars worth
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: of thoughts. Okay, y'all don't know.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: This man's thoughts. Why why did y'all see me? Y'all
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: know this man's thoughts?
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Right, y'all ain't mind? Readers don't like this man up? Okay.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: So Davis's brother in law was paid over six hundred
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars for a non existent job and least on
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: a nonexistent building. So the nephew, you know he got
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: at least I did.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: Though I have a lot of non existenties.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: I do too, and I need thousand dollars for him,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: for sure.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: I'm a real estate magnet when it comes to the
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: non existent building.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: You see that over there? You don't ye see it?
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you don't see things the way I see it.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: That's all it is. You can change our perspective, my guy.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Exactly, I got a multi I got a multi use
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: over there. You don't even see it. Yeah.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I like that. The nephew at least was like for thought.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: But then the brother in law was like for nothing,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: like I'm not even gonna try to lie to y'all, okay,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: for nothing. And then there were sport the sports celebrities,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: so new paid Marcus Dupree, a former college football star.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Oh oh, he got thirty mark.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: I wanted to keep this on the I was hoping
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: we didn't get it. I was hopeing my people did
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: not get involved. But the second I heard the name
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: Marcus Duprie, I was like, Oh.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you knew he was You knew he was gold
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: broh or how or how racists like to call black people.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Now you knew he was gonna be awoke, it was
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: gonna feel well.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: I was like, Marcus and Dupree in the same name. Yeah,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be bad, okay, giving us.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is Marcus and he got three hundred
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: and seventy one thousand dollars to buy a four thousand
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: square foot house with a swimming pool, pavilion, and adjoining
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: acreage on which mister Dupree was to maintain horses. Now
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: you get how all this is going to the goods
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: into the people in need, because we need Marcus Duprie
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: to have a house and also a horse. State.
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know many people in need who need a horse, period.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: I just feel like a horse is that that's always
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: the thing that like rock stars buy when they're about
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: to lose all their money on horse racing. Like I
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: just feel like horses is just a sign of like
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: you probably aren't in that. I mean like unless you
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: have a horse farm, you know, a horse or i'm sorry,
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: a horse co op.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: But if people have a horse.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Co op, are you a woofer? A horse woofer.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: If you're a wolfer was of her first, Yes, but
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: I feel like that is not something that anybody in
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: need really needs.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: As a horse, the need to be in.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Place first, extremely expensive to maintain. So this isn't even
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: like he stole some money and then he used it
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: to buy a house, which, yeah, you have to do
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: maintenance on a house, but horses are very expensive. So
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: where y'all keep giving him horse coins? Because what And
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: the charity filings Dupre acclaimed the adjoining land next to
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: his massive residence was to be used for equestrian activities
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: for underprivileged children.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Oh no, see, I love that idea.
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: I love the idea of little kids for the from
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: the from the you know, for the city, going out
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: there and getting their equestrian on, you know, like in theory,
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: I'm all for this, but I'm going to assume that
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: they were not fulfilling.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: They were like, Marcus, wish kids have visited the horse camp.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: He said, okay, So we got Tina Belcher. She loved horses.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: She comes all the time. Her family is very poor.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: They got a small business where they sell burgers and
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: they're not doing well. So she loves to come.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: You know, probably her family is really in need. You know,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: they only have you know, they have such a small
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: lake house. It's so small, it's so small.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: So underf guidelines, Dupree was technically being compensated to demonstrate
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: batherhood of value that aligned with the state sanctioned goals
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: for impoverished families. So think about bullshit.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: I hate that kind of stuff.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: I hate them when they try and put it on
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: this myth that somehow black fathers aren't coming through for
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: their families, that that the state sponsored initiative to encourage fatherhood.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Like if that's that's another flip side of what's a.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: State sponsored father? Hello, I'm here to be your state
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: sponsored father and get in there to do them dishes
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: and sign this form, sign sign a W four and
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: then get out there and mode lawn. I'm your dad.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's just this is so many things
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: I dislike. Feel free to go ahead. I'm I feel
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: like I'm going down the rabbit hole.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Let's go.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: You've heard of Uncle Sam, but have you heard of
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Dad Marcus.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: I too, work for the Dandy Marcus.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Danny Marcus. I work for the government. I'm here to
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: be your dad. Okay, so we won't take we'll change
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: a tire today. This only cost of you three hundred
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: and seventy one thousand dollars, okay for me to be
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: your father. So whenever he did anything for families, first
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: he would post about it on Facebook with the hashtag fatherhood.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Oh problem.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: Families need food and rent and money for clothing and
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: and and you know, to be able to buy things
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: that the kids need for their educations. Families don't need
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: you to gonna be everybody daddy. This is a mess.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: It's a mess. Wow, all right.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: So Davis also became very close with pro wrestler family
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: Ted Junior, Ted Senior and Brett Thebiasy.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: Oh no day. I remember him from back when I
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: used to watch wrestling.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yes.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: And you could see how they would tie into government
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: assistance for needy families.
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Is Brett or was it Ted? It?
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Was Ted right, Ted Ted Senior and yeah, Ted.
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: Oh, I got okay, yeah Ted dB Yeah, the million
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: dollar man. He was called the million dollar man. Yeah,
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: a million dollar man in anything regarding people in need.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: That's how he got to be a million dollar man,
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: taking it he hoards money, Yeah, exactly.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: And also we're gonna post this foot on the Instagram
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: because I just need to understand who was like, yes,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: this guy, this is the guy who the man who.
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: Has dollars falling from this guy and fire, so you
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: know that he's already gone to hell for the things
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: he's done, Like Ted Dbasse is not gonna be a
• 51:16
  Speaker 3: good head of an organization to help people in need.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, y'all, do the bare minimum research. Just image
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: google Ted DBAs right.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: You know how people black folks love to photoshop. They're
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: relatives in the clouds when they die, like they already photoshop.
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: My guy in.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Hell is in hell. He's burning up with his money
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: that's also burning up. This man's not even a good
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: investor because his dollars are literally filed on fire.
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: Fire.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Yo, I can't believe this is this is hilarious. It's
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: not for the families who didn't get the money that
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: they need. But just if you see these characters, I
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: don't even understand how they got along this bar So
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: the charity received just five thousand dollars in grants in
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, but in twenty seventeen they were given two
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy one thousand dollars in grants. And what
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: is the seventy one thousand? We have the three hundred
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: and seventy one thousand, two hundred and seventy one thousand, what's
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: the seventy one about? They're like, that's just enough to
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: be close enough to three K, but K but not quite.
• 52:12
  Speaker 6: Yeh risity flags is that it's really just the one
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: thousand of that two seventy one that I'm like, oh really,
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: so it wasn't you know they got they got they
• 52:21
  Speaker 6: got an extra they got an extra thousand for something.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: That's what taxes and fees, that's all.
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: So.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: The same year, Davis hired Brett dBase as senior official
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: at the Mississippi Department of Human Services with a ninety
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: five thousand dollars salary, despite having no qualifications. This man literally,
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: you know, was on television wearing panties and no shirt
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: and oiled up wrestling other dudes up.
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: Holding up belts of gold like literally above his head,
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: like you know.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: Like this is the guy.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: This is the guy. He's got qualifications to do community
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: service and outreach and chairs.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: It's like a social worker. To me, looks like a
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: social worker.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: He shows up shirts everywhere it goes just like this.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Hearing help the needy kids.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: Sods.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: Oh gonna help him so hard? Like what? So his
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty thousand dollars four months stay at
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: a luxury drug rehab in California called Rise in Malibu
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: was also covered, as was Davis's first class flights to
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: visit him.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: So I'm sorry he used the buddy to go to rehab.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: So he got separate money to go to rehab. He
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: had a ninety five thousand dollars like salary. But then
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: he was like, hey, I actually need to go to
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: rehab real quick, and I do need to go to
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: the nicest rehabilitation facility. It is one hundred and sixty k. Also,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: my homeboy, Davis, he's gonna have to fly private to
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: come visit me. This is all a part of my
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: work for the needy families.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: I mean just think if we if everybody who is
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: sadly drug addicted on the street was like, you know what,
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: I am addicted to this myth and I'm going to
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: take a private jet to Malibu and.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Just hang out on the beach.
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: Because I'll say, those ads for like the rehab sitters
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: in Malibu, they actually my wife and I taught that
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: we because those dings look like vacations, like they look fantastic.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: They're really nice, you can get massages, they have great food,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: like the really high end rehabilitation facilities, you know, like
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: some people will go and say that they're going for exhaustion,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: and I was like, do I need to go my
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: exhaustion because this giving, Like it's really giving. And obviously
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: that's not the state of most rehabilitation facilities that are
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: available for people who are not misappropriating government funds or
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: who are not rich, you know what I mean, They're
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: not this lavish, and you know, it's just a testament
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: to money and to greed, and and.
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: Nobody thinks any differently of them because they're what white
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: collar criminals.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: And is on the white except of my.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: It's always like they're white colored criminals.
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: The criminals is quiet they're white scholar criminals. What was
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: that last part you said? Not just that white collar.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: Just as a part of recent investigations, Ted Junior has
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: alleged that he witnessed one of the main officials redirecting
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: some of the funds away from a nonprofit that actually
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: needed and used the money appropriately. And this is a quote.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: The nonprofit director was a supporter of the Democratic candidate
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: for governor that year. So they were like, oh, you
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: you support the Democrats. Oh okay, well, and guess what
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: you can not prop about the half No, I don't
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: know the year that this person is referring to, but
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: we're in like twenty thirteen to twenty seventeen area. So
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: if it was twenty sixteen, we're talking about someone not
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: supporting Gavin.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Newsom or something.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, go ahead, Yeah, it's probably someone not being
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: a Trump supporter. All in all, more than two million
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: in welfare funds was diverted to the DiBiase Group, which
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: has not filed tax documents to the IRS in the
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: past two years. So beyond stealing government of you know, funds,
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: they're also not even paying taxes at all as citizens.
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, they sound like the Salt of the earth
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: kind of guys that I really want in charge of
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: my charity work.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: The best people, you know. Okay, they're doing good stuff
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: for them. They never said who the good stuff was old, They.
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Just said we support good stuff. Right.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: He sounds really good for them. It sounds like they
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: did a lot of good stuff for themselves. There were
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: many instances of similar activities that not all ended up
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: in the suit. Forty three thousand dollars was even spent
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: on a series of Bible inspired children's book by Christian
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: singer Jason Krab So he didn't got some money for
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: his books. I look at this man, man, Oh gosh,
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: he's definitely getting a youth pastor. He's like, I'm gonna
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: keep it real with you guys. Okay, I'm gonna flip
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: my chair backwards and.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, what's up, JaMarcus. Hey, I'm on your side. Man.
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: Let's talk about so getting sie.
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: So it goes all the way to the top. Recent
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: findings have shown that the welfare scheme actually extends all
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: the way to the governor. Despite great attempts to have
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: the buck stop that Nancy Knew and John Davis, it
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: appears that the official had directed funds away from a
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: valid nonprofit that was actually then Governor Phil Bryant. Note
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: that Phil served as governor from twenty twelve to twenty twenty.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: The current governor now is.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: Tim hil Bryant.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: By the way, Phil Briant looks like a muppet version
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: of Phil Bryant.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: He does, he really does, and like there's definitely strings
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: attached to that suit his arms.
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, nice, nice analogy.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: So, according to Alice, Well, basically I'm going to paraphrase here,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: but she's saying that the allegation that the sitting governor
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: was directing how taxpayer funds would be spent in order
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: to punish a political opponent is a huge deal because
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: now just because you're playing you're playing politics with people's
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: real lives in the same way that you know, they
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: were flying people to Martha's vineyard who had recently come
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: into the country and you know, destabilizing these people's lives
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: when they're already in dire strains to make a political point.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: You know, you're using things that people need and like
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: because you don't care about people. Politics aren't about people.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: So we know that in twenty seventeen, conservative former football
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: player quarterback Brett Farr texted with the Governor Bryant about
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: guidance on how to write a funding proposal so that
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: it could be accepted by the Mississippi Department of Human Services.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: So you say, how do I lie so that I
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: could get some funds from the government that I definitely
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: should not have you got tips?
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: This is never never should a text that says is
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: there any way the media can find out where it
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: came from? If you have to text that that, I'm
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: gonna just go out and live and say, don't do it.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Hey, if we do this crime, you think people will
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: find out? I just want to cover all my bases.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: Do you think that people will find out?
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: It's a problem, dude, It's a real problem. If you've
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: got to text.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Something, I need advice.
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: What do you order a pizza and the pizza's late?
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: You never, like, is there any way the media can
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: find out why my pizzas late?
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: Like, that's never coming.
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: That's always if I was on that jury, man, all right?
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: And also why are you doing crime via text?
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, man, crime via text may place the phone call at.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Least, right, So this is hey, you should have no
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: emojis included in your crime with the eyes. Do you
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: think that anyone could have found out about this I emoji?
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: Like, no, seriously, I thought about this just recently.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Like there's a dude who I friends, but who's like,
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: he's real hard. You know, he's real hard.
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: But like every now that I'll sit up in text
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: and he likes and he'll hit it with the with
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: the heart response, and I'm like, yeah, the heart response
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: seems a little not like you, man. I would expect
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: the thumbs up, maybe emphasizing, you know, exclamation.
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: He hits me back with the hearts.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, the government the governor puts a heart
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: sign on No, no, no'll find out totally.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: He gave me his word, but the heart emoji, he
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: said nobody was gonna find out I was stealing.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: This is bullshit, that's exactly. So.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: This was after Governor Bryant ousted the Welfare Agency director
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: John Davis for suspected fraud. So he's already kind of
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: using people to be scapegoats and you know, being like, oh,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: I can't believe they did that fraud. I never even
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: That's not how we run a government in Mississippi. We
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: are stand up dudes. So in recent recently released texts,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: Governor Bryant and farv New and Davis worked together to
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: channel at least five million dollars from this TIF or
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: tan F fund to build a new volleyball stadium at
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: the University of Southern Mississippi, where Farbes's daughter played. Though
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: farb was not has denied for years that he had
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: any knowledge of welfare funds being diverted to build the stadium,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: initial plans included naming it after him.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say, He's like, I didn't know it
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: had anything to do with me.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: They just named it after me.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know. They were like, when we think of volleyball,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: who do we think.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: Of prince Ball?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: That's all they know. I'm huge in a volleyball community.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: That's it. You know, I'm a huge fan of volleyball.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Recent texts also showed that he was warned by Governor
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: Bryant that misuses of the grant funds was illegal, but
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: he continued to push for the stadium anyway. Governor Bryant replied,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: We're gonna get there, but we have to follow the law.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: I am too old for federal prison. I just don't.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: I am too for federal prison. Lol. These dudes are
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: like the dumbest Texters of all time.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: Right, He's like, do you know how bad the food
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: is in federal prison? LMAO. I can't be going over
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: their BRANDT show. But we don't steal the money though, said,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: don't worry.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: He's like embezzling funds, rolling on floor.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: So Additionally, pharvacid one point one million in TANF money
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: in exchange for speeches and appearances that were never actually made.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: Who wants to see Brett Barr fucking talk? And definitely
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: not for one point one million dollars to have a
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: nasty man show up? Okay, I pay that to have
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: him show up nowhere? What the fuck?
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: So?
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: I mean essentially that's what they paid for. Because he
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: ain't show up nowhere and he speak to nobody.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: The lyric has not sold out seats to hear Brett
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: Farv speak.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: No, it's not it never will be. Like dupri Farv
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: was also supposed to have been championing family values and
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: fatherhood through his appearances and activities. Also not a family
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: values guys guy, nasty man, sexual assaulter. He's not family
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: values okay, He's nasty and gross and I don't even understand.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, what the fuck? He also had two million
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: dollars of ten AF money routed to one of his
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: pharmaceutical investments, a company called Pravacus or pre Vassus. So
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: I'm counting so far he got the five milli, the
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: two milli, the one point one. We had eight point
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: one million dollars.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Insane.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Though Farv is one a few involved in the scandal
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: without charges against him, the investigation is ongoing and his
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: weekly serious ExM show has been suspended. Yet take all
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: his things absolutely please, and also put this man in
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: jail where he's been belonging for a while, you know
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: what I mean. So in twenty seventeen, it was discovered
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: the Mississippi's program rejected ninety eight point five percent of
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: applicants for cash assistant the previous year. Yeah, they rejected
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: them because they didn't have the money. They were assisting
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: themselves to the cash What the fuck they had to
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: go get to meet families and to themselves. That's not
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: gonna work out. At the time, nearly fifty million dollars
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: on funds was left unused, so they still had fifty
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: million that they hadn't stolen yet, but they were like, Okay,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: but we gonna figure out a way to get it
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: out of there, So we can't give it to the
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: families because then how are we going to eventually make
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: up fake things to get it ourselves. So the agency
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: stopped publishing its approval rate and annual reports after that
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: because obviously no one's going to approve of them because
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: they're not given nobody what they were supposed to give them.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety six, when TNF was introduced, thirty three
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: thousand adults were receiving assistance in Mississippi. Last year, that
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: number was two hundred and eight wow.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: In total. From twenty seventeen to twenty twenty, the state
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: auditor has found it seventy seven million dollars in misuse
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: of welfare funds in the county's poorest excuse me, in
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: the country's poorest state, where it's city capital has remained
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: in a water crisis for over a month. They have
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: brown water coming out of their faucets. Meanwhile, seventy seven
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: million dollars has been used for horses, mansions, speeches from
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: nasty men who never actually gave the speeches, ideas of
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: fake buildings.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: You know, blowouts, that ugly dress, volleyball court.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Yes, volleyball courts that need to be named after nasty men.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: You know all of this. So Nancy New and her
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: son Zach Knew and John Davis has pleaded guilty to
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: charges related to bribery and misuse of welfare funds. They
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: can face up to seventy five years in parism. But
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: TANF isn't just being misused. It's a genesis and very structure.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, it's genesis and very structure is based on
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: the belief that mothers, especially black mothers, we're getting the
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: money that they didn't deserve and wasting it because that's
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: literally what everyone wants to tell poor people what to
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: do with their fucking money. And meanwhile, rich people are
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: stealing the money. And that is I don't care what
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: a black woman in Mississippi used the funds for that
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: they were clearly not given. It is better than what
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: these motherfuckers were doing with it, stealing it. Yeah, I
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: don't care if she goes and gets her nails done.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: I don't care if she you know, got fresh paint
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: orr Kia. I don't give a fuck. It's way better
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: than this weird ass shit. And I would bet my
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: bottom dollar that most of these people, because when people
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: need financial assistance, are using it so that they can
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: keep their heads above water, especially when the water is brown.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, nobody wants to be, you know, scalped
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: deep in brown water.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: But I'd also point.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: Out, just getting serious for a second, that I feel
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: like so much of this is always projection. So the
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: same people who were stealing all this money are the
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: same people who are like, oh, you can't give it
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: to poor people, because then they're gonna spin it on
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: themselves in ways we don't approve, give it to me,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: and then they spin it in ways that.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: No reasonable person should approve. It's just projecting.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: They're just projecting their own sort of like larcenous thoughts
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: on these you know, poor people who, for all purposes,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: should be given the chance to, like you said, get
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: the money help themselves out. Yes, maybe some of them
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: would spend it in ways that aren't going to help
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: their situation, but it's better than these people who definitely
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: spent their money in ways that didn't help anybody.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: So didn't help anybody, And when you abject poverty, there's
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: always this disgusting assumption that you don't deserve joy, you
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: don't deserve luxuries, Like if you are on a government
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: assistance for like a wig or a food program, they
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: have very specific stipulations on what you can purchase with
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: that card, because God forbid, somebody who's dealing with poverty
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: every single day of their life want a goddamn fruit snack. Okay,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: you can't have proof, Snagmitch, I gotta take this private
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: jet go visit my homie in this luxury rehabilitation facility
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, California.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: I was I was told early on, and I don't
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: know if this is one hundred, but basically, in other countries,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: when people, you know, fall on hard times or find themselves,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: you know, financially, you know, at their lowest, there's this
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: sense of, oh, we need to help them out because
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: there but for the grace of God go I. And
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: it's really only in certain countries like our own, where
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: you know, a lot of people look at the poor
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 3: and think, well, it's their fault. You know, they don't think, oh,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: that could have that could be me, you know, under
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: different circumstances. They don't see the poor as being part
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: of their community. They just see the poor as being
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: part of this you know, other community, and that can
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: be racial, that can be yeah, that can be based
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: on race, that can be based on class.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: But like, what we need to develop is a sense.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: Of no, those are our fellow people and we should
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: be looking out for them, because Lord knows it could
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: be us.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 3: We need to stop seeing the poor as them and
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: start seeing it as us.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: And beyond that, there's so much Helping people who are
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: in unfortunate situations or dire strengths. Isn't just about seeing
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: yourselves and seeing their humanity. It's also about the fact
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: that when we help the people who are going through
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: the worst in our communities, we are helping ourselves when
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: we lift everyone up. There's so much untapped potential, so
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: much knowledge, so many people who could do so much
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: good in the world if they just simply have the opportunity.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: And that would also benefit you if you're the type
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: of person who can't ever do anything that's simply altruistic,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, in some relation that also exists,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: and so it's just really fucking grows to see, you know,
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: how we'll allow the rich to steal from us and
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: be like look over there, it's that man who's taking
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: your cookie. Meanwhile, you got the whole damn cookie, Josh.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: The numbers usually prove that it is far cheaper from
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: a taxpayer perspective to do the government assistance than to incarcerate.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: Choose in this country to incarcerrate and spend more money
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: doing that than to actually give people better lives.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: It is expensive to you know, is what is it.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: It's in the like five figures a year for each
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: prison inmate. Yeah, so it's guys, what are we doing?
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: So the corruption has gone on unchecked for many years
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: because the system is being misused and it's performing as
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: it was designed. So it went on for forever because
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, we made the system to steal,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: and then it's working really great. We steal in a lot.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: The theft numbers are up where you know, we're in
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: the black. It's really deplorable, and I think that they
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: should be getting more national attention because it is literally
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: the foundation of this country. Its victim blaming in every
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: sense of the word. We need to assure ourselves our
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: own safety, and how could we do that if we
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: don't blame victims, If we don't blame victims who are
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: attacked on the street. If we don't blame women who
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: are assaulted and men as well, and people who don't
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: identify is either, If we don't blame poor people for
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: being poor, then how can we rationalize that this will
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: never happen to me?
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think the goal is to to fight
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 3: all that and make some progress.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: Man, It's not gonna be easy, but I think we
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: can do it.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But Mississippi, y'all were y'all already didn't really have
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: great stats. Nobody's ever been like, you know what, we
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: should go on vacation Mississippi.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what, like their places like Jackson,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: Mississippi and.
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: Family in Jackson.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we love seeing all all black people have some
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: family somewhere in Mississippi.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: Mississippi.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm hoping we can get get that that all
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: straightened out.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I hope so too. We'll see how this goes,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: I hope even though I'm not about the prison industrial
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: system at all, I won't lie. I want to see
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: these bitches on the chain gang. I want to see
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: uh miss new I want to see her roots grow out.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: I want ship to be frizzy as fuck.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I doubt that's gonna happen though, because I bet
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: you they go to what a white collar prison?
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: So see, and that's some bullshit. I want them to
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: go to the prison I saw in that life with Martin.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Have to be hey, hand handy.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: I want to begging somebody for some corn bread. That's
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: what I want to do, right.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: I want you to have a shovel and you just
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: got to hit the ground all day. There's no purpose
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: to it. You're just outside hit doing manual labor. I
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: want you to be woofers.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly to call it a co op.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: Right, y'all need to be in the co op. All right, guys,
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: we made it to the satisfy of the show, the
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: end where I have to let y'all go go. But
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: first we're just gonna do a quick scammer of the week.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: This where we highlighted charlattan who's worthy of our praise
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: or maybe not, we'll see. Today we're talking about singer Shakita,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: who has been ordered to stand trial in Spain for
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: alleged tax braad against the public treasury of Banyan. Spanish
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: prosecutors alleged that Yaquita failed to pay personal income and
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: wealth taxes between twenty twelve and twenty fourteen, about fifteen
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: point eight million dollars. So they say, yeah, her hip's
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: not lying. But these uh, these tax documents do they
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: do the tax accraupents do. She has denied this dating
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: in a recent interview with l magazine. I paid everything
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: they said I owed, even before they filed a lawsuit.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: So as of today, I owe zero to them.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: That's why I settled. Shakita, you better let them know, okay.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: I love her. Spanish officials claim that Yaquita lived in
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: Spain for over one hundred and eighty three days annually
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: between twenty eleven and twenty fourteen, while Shakira says her
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: primary residence was in the Bahamas at the time. Oh,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: I know she was getting her behavior.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: I could hear somebody.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: That's when you hear somebody's like, oh, but you know
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: you see them every day, but they're like, they claim
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: to live in the Cayman Islands.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: Like it's like a little bit suspicious.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: Listen. I thought about doing that, you know, like get
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: a house in a chief of state and then be like,
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: I don't live in California. I ain't give me all
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: another estate tax. I live in Boise, Idaho.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: Did know you?
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: Didn't know? I've been Florida. I've been Florida for you
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: for years now.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where I I'm thinking about it though it
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: She's like, no, I just be visiting over here, Okay, No,
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: my real home is in Schenectady.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes, do I live in Costa Rica? Yes,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: I live in Costa Rica. But you do see me
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: every day at Blue Bottle in Studio City, California.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: But that's just me on vacation. I go on vacation
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: three hundred and sixty five days a year in California.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: But I don't live here.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: But this is not home, you know, you know me.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: I'll never forget where I came from. Costa Rica.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: So spokes versus persona Shakira and her team consider that
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: this case constitutes a total violation of her rights since
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: she has always shown in peccable behavior as a person
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: and attax bearer. She does have her charities, and her
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: charities do good stuff for real that you can actually
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: document and see. So I do I do appreciate Shakira
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: as a global influencer. Prosecutors are seeking an eight year
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: prison sentence plus finds if she's convicted. And I've also
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: heard that the Spanish government tries to do this shakedown
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: on rich so celebrities pretty often, and so it's not
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: the first occurrence that they've come for the girls like coins,
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: which surprising. The government literally just make shu up and
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: it's like you owe this? They talk about I owe them,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: but I was like, I gave y'all so much goddamn money.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: You're talking about, I owe you some more for what?
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: Show over receipt for what for? What for?
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: When that extra money to have somebody else do your taxes?
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: I'll say that every.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: Time, Oh I do I have an accountant. And that's
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: why I was really bad because I was like, I
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: have a great account and they're still like, oh, girl
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: from twenty nineteen, you know you have some payroll taxes
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: that shood been paying. I'm like, for who? I didn't
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: have any employees at that time, what are you talking about?
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: Like you know, they just make shuit up? And what
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: are you gonna do? Fight them? Like you can't, you can't.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: I wish I could fist fight that the government. I will,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: But guys, that brings us to the end of the
• 1:14:45
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• 1:14:48
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• 1:14:52
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• 1:14:53
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