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AEW Hot Topics | Where the Best Wrestle! · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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  Speaker 1: And nine. Ignition Ship five four three two one zero
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  Speaker 1: All engine running.
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  Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for
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  Speaker 2: Ignition With the aw Fanhub podcast team, we just had
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  Speaker 2: one heck of a weekend of professional wrestling, and we
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  Speaker 2: also had WrestleMania nights one and two. Uh, the Stardom Show,
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  Speaker 2: the American Dream. My god, was it great. I gotta
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  Speaker 2: tell you if you're not watching those shows. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the cool thing about WrestleMania weekend to me, guys, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you agree with me on this
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  Speaker 2: is that all the indie shows and all the other
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  Speaker 2: shows that have shows on those WrestleMania weekends, do you
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  Speaker 2: like those? Do you watch those other shows?
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  Speaker 3: Definitely a great did you get as a sea Sandman
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  Speaker 3: retire and fully came out and.
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  Speaker 4: Squashed the invisible Man for him?
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  Speaker 2: The visible man was toast Man. Mister Soko just killed
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  Speaker 2: the guy. But anyway, let's get on with the show
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  Speaker 2: because we got a lot to talk about tonight.
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  Speaker 5: This is Kelson and this is Barry in the news fronts.
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  Speaker 5: The members of the design team behind AW merchandise were
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  Speaker 5: let go as part of Pro Wrestling Te's relationship with AAW,
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  Speaker 5: which has led to some consternation on Reddit. If you
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  Speaker 5: want to head to the next slide there. Kelson and
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people took that and ran with it
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  Speaker 5: and came up with conspiracies enough that Pro Wrestling Teas
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  Speaker 5: issued an official statement that said, the person who made
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  Speaker 5: the Reddit post circulating has no knowledge of our business.
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  Speaker 5: Nothing on that post is true except that we unfortunately
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  Speaker 5: told some of our contracted designers we would not need
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  Speaker 5: them for as many AW designs anymore. Some of the
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  Speaker 5: AW designers are still contract nothing has changed, and otherwise
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  Speaker 5: we are still fulfilling the merchandise for AW. So hopefully
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  Speaker 5: that clears up some of the confusion. It's been a
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  Speaker 5: little bit of drama to day on the news front,
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  Speaker 5: but all things considered, I hope wish the best eluct
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  Speaker 5: to all the artists and hope they continue to find
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  Speaker 5: work elsewhere.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, everybody, this is Chris. It's a little bit of fun,
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  Speaker 6: silly news. Chris Jericho has trade mark the guy who
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  Speaker 6: gets his ass feat by the demand every week that
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  Speaker 6: he shows up. Never changed, Chris Jericho, never changed.
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  Speaker 7: Hi, this is Valerie.
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  Speaker 8: So a w is reportedly set to run redemption between
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  Speaker 8: Forbidden Door in June and August with all in my
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  Speaker 8: two favorite pay per views, Let's go Chris.
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  Speaker 6: There again and more fun news after Tony Kahn tweets
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  Speaker 6: a w is where the best wrestle after wrestle Mania
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  Speaker 6: forty two Night one ends? And I think we cannot agree.
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  Speaker 6: He is right?
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  Speaker 4: What's going on at your boys? UMG?
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  Speaker 3: Shane DAW's Double or Nothing has sold over eleven thousand
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  Speaker 3: tickets for those that don't know. That's at the Louis
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  Speaker 3: Armstrong Stadium up in New York and they have a
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  Speaker 3: capacity around fourteen thousand. And only one match has been
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  Speaker 3: announced for this card, and it's a pretty important one
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  Speaker 3: if you guys are paying attention. There's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: riffs between Kenoski Takesha and Kazuchka Okada and we're finally
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  Speaker 3: getting to see them square off for the aw International Championship.
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  Speaker 3: I think this is gonna be a really great match.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of implications for the Don Kallis family
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  Speaker 3: faction and what you know, the direction that they're gonna
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  Speaker 3: be headed in moving forward after this match? You know,
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  Speaker 3: is Don Kallas gonna turn on Oca? I don't see
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  Speaker 3: him to really turning on Okata. To be fair, I
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  Speaker 3: mean like Ocat is a bigger presence in the don
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  Speaker 3: Kallis family and it seems like Takesha is kind of
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  Speaker 3: hitting a redemption arc. That's my opinion. You know, I
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  Speaker 3: think the match is going to be absolutely solid. Ta
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  Speaker 3: Keutsha is one of the best performers on the roster
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  Speaker 3: right now in terms of the men in my opinion,
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  Speaker 3: and I think we're gonna get a real slob knocker
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  Speaker 3: out of this one.
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  Speaker 4: Boys, what do you think? Boys and girls? Excuse me?
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  Speaker 2: Well, well, look, let me I want to ask a
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  Speaker 2: question on top of that, because do you really think
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  Speaker 2: that don Kallas is going to turn on either or
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  Speaker 2: I mean or is he going to turn on Okada?
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  Speaker 2: And is he or is he going to turn on
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  Speaker 2: on Ta Keshta. My take is that he's going to
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  Speaker 2: turn on Ta Kesta. Yeah, of course and and and
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  Speaker 2: by what I mean by turning on Ta Keusta, he's
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  Speaker 2: going to turn on Ta Keshta before the pay per view,
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  Speaker 2: but he's going to flip it at the pay per view.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to be He's going to be betray Okada.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be a total swerve.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think.
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  Speaker 2: I absolutely think that Takeshta will be in the don
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  Speaker 2: Kallis family after double or Nothing and Okada will be gone.
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  Speaker 7: You're going to see.
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  Speaker 3: I fantasy booked that a little bit differently, good Chris.
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  Speaker 6: I say, we might see the return of crazy red
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  Speaker 6: haired Ballue no Kada.
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  Speaker 3: Oh man, we could only be so lucky. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: in my fantasy pro wrestling world. You know, there's been
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  Speaker 3: a lot of build up for Takesha actually leaving the family,
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  Speaker 3: and there are a lot of people with a lot
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  Speaker 3: of history with Okata in the men's division right now,
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  Speaker 3: that seemingly, you know, could be an issue. You know, obviously,
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  Speaker 3: Kenny Omega on the back of his loss, could be
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  Speaker 3: his next big move, could be Okada, being that that's
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  Speaker 3: one of his biggest rivalries, grabbing the low hanging fruit.
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  Speaker 3: Now that we know that he's not going to be
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  Speaker 3: able to go after the big one again, if not
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  Speaker 3: indefinitely for a very long time. You know, I could
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  Speaker 3: see Taqusha with the bucks again. I could see that.
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  Speaker 3: I could see him on his own because he really
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  Speaker 3: can't stand on his own. He was doing a really
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  Speaker 3: good job before the don Kellis family. Anyone else got
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  Speaker 3: anything different on.
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  Speaker 6: That crazy idea. Well als pray as trademark United Empire.
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  Speaker 6: What if he starts building an a W version of
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  Speaker 6: it because it's the New Japan, guys can't be there
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  Speaker 6: full time, and you know Osprey knows all about how
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  Speaker 6: much of a bastard Don Catalys is. What if he
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  Speaker 6: welcomed ta Questa because they've been through the heat of
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  Speaker 6: battle and osbreak and see Taiqusta is the kind of
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  Speaker 6: guy who he won't whin I'm fighting dirty, but he
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  Speaker 6: doesn't fight to cowardly multiple people. You know, he doesn't
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  Speaker 6: like that kind of craft.
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  Speaker 3: I want to expand on the Osprey thing and then
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  Speaker 3: pass on talking for a couple of seconds. There was
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  Speaker 3: a rift between New Japan and AW earlier in this
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  Speaker 3: year over the use of the bull club again in AEW.
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  Speaker 3: This is the second or third time that that's been
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  Speaker 3: a thing. I think that Japan is giving AW permissions
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  Speaker 3: for United Empire as a segue into Forbidden Door. I
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  Speaker 3: know he just trademarked that, so it'd be cool to
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  Speaker 3: see them expand that outward. I cannot see you, I mean, like,
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  Speaker 3: who who in a W? You know Mark Davis and
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  Speaker 3: Kyle Flusher are both with Don Calisos were his big
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  Speaker 3: you know, United Empire guys in aw I have a
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  Speaker 3: hard time believing that we're going to get an immediate
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  Speaker 3: lift off the ground of that.
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  Speaker 6: Well one interesting thing in New Japan Andrave is part
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  Speaker 6: of the United Empire.
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  Speaker 4: He's it but in America.
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  Speaker 6: But you look at how he's been acting, you know,
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  Speaker 6: him shaking Darby's hand, him not being happy with Don Kallas.
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  Speaker 6: Could he could easily break off and he's getting the
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  Speaker 6: tears and he does. He wouldn't really have to change
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  Speaker 6: anything to wrestle as a face because he's got that
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  Speaker 6: swagger and everything.
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  Speaker 9: We're getting away off topic, you know, but I want
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  Speaker 9: to go to I want to go to let's go
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  Speaker 9: to Tucci.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Chi. You've not done with us before, so
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm interested to hear what you have to say.
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  Speaker 10: Hey, guys, longtime listener. We can't get the implications of
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  Speaker 10: the rest of the family. We have andreda that's been
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  Speaker 10: boiling over this, this use of the don KALs family
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  Speaker 10: by MJF. We have Kyle Fletcher, who you know, who
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  Speaker 10: knows how that story goes. But it definitely was headed
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  Speaker 10: in the direction of a decision he had to make
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  Speaker 10: as well. So I don't think this ends at Double
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  Speaker 10: or nothing. Whatever happens, I think it's only going to
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  Speaker 10: get deeper.
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  Speaker 2: It's a good I kind of have to agree with you.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to Valerie, Valerie. I know that you and
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  Speaker 2: there's Conrad. Welcome Conrad, but Valerie, let's uh, let's go.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see you're hearing.
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  Speaker 11: I'm kind of torn because I said last week that
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  Speaker 11: I wanted to catch out of the Don Calli's family
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  Speaker 11: for months and months and months, and I think that
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  Speaker 11: he will be out at Double and that thing because
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  Speaker 11: if you remember, way way back when the don Callis
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  Speaker 11: family was born, after John turned on Kenny and align
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  Speaker 11: himself with Takeshta, he said that he was like his son,
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  Speaker 11: the son he never has. He had the saying, oh
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  Speaker 11: he's better than you, Okay Benner, than Tanahashi, and then
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  Speaker 11: he used the same same lines with Okada. So I
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  Speaker 11: believe that he will stick with Okada because Okada is
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  Speaker 11: like the big star in Japan and he.
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  Speaker 5: Now is with a W.
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  Speaker 11: So I think, I think, and I feel very strongly
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  Speaker 11: about this, that Okada will stay with the don Kallas
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  Speaker 11: family and Takeshta will be out.
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  Speaker 2: Barry before you start, Conrad, we're getting a message you
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  Speaker 2: have some connectivity issues, and it says for you to
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  Speaker 2: to go off and come back without trying to use
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  Speaker 2: your camera. Berry. That's here what we have to say.
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  Speaker 2: But I got nothing, You've got nothing?
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  Speaker 1: Is he?
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  Speaker 4: Are you sick? You do? Feeling okay over there?
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  Speaker 7: But yeah, well.
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  Speaker 6: Nailed it?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah short.
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  Speaker 5: I think I think, uh, this is all going to
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  Speaker 5: boil down to Don needing to make a choice, and
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  Speaker 5: the whole match is going to be centered on who's
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  Speaker 5: who's Don going to pick? And I think everybody everybody's
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  Speaker 5: kind of seeing that in their head. The screwdriver is
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  Speaker 5: going to come into play here. I think he's gonna,
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  Speaker 5: to your point, Kelson, he's going to act like he's
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  Speaker 5: gonna help somebody, and he's going to swerve to the
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  Speaker 5: other one. I don't know who's going to be okada daqushaa.
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  Speaker 5: I still think this ends up as a as a rematch.
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  Speaker 5: It all in to unify those belts. The storyline between
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  Speaker 5: Takesha and Max is still open and unfinished. I do
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  Speaker 5: think that's going to play in so I I honestly
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  Speaker 5: I don't know who's going to go over in this match.
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  Speaker 5: I'm assuming Okada, and because I think Okada is going
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  Speaker 5: to go over, or I'm assuming he's gonna go over,
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  Speaker 5: I'm figuring Don's sides with him. But to your point, Kelson,
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  Speaker 5: they could they could swerve and go in a fresh direction,
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  Speaker 5: do the unexpected. You can still get to the same
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  Speaker 5: place at all and have a little fun with it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see what happens leading
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  Speaker 2: up the double or nothing. There's gonna be probably some
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  Speaker 2: hints being dropped and we're just gonna have to pay
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  Speaker 2: attention to it. I want to move on now. This
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  Speaker 2: isn't really a discussion topic, but I just want to
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  Speaker 2: let you guys know if you haven't seen it, that
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  Speaker 2: AAW did produce and post another video in there. Everything
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  Speaker 2: you need to Know about AW series, I guess is
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  Speaker 2: the best way of putting it. And this one is
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  Speaker 2: called Everything you Need to Know About Darby Allen. It's
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  Speaker 2: on YouTube. Go give it a look. And speaking of
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  Speaker 2: Darby Allen, on Dynamite, tomorrow night, we're gonna hear from
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  Speaker 2: the AW World Champion Darby Allen. We are going to
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  Speaker 2: also see him in a match, and we'll talk about
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  Speaker 2: that match a little bit later. But the question that
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  Speaker 2: has been brought up many times throughout the internet is
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  Speaker 2: Darby Allen the man that Awn needs to be have
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  Speaker 2: in the in the world championship scene right now? What
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  Speaker 2: do you guys think Is he the right guy as
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  Speaker 2: world champion?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: He absolutely is.
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  Speaker 12: I mean, is he top dog? No, But I think
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  Speaker 12: it's a breath of fresh air from everybody who has
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  Speaker 12: had it before, who keeps on getting it back. So
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  Speaker 12: they need some fresh young talent and the fresh face,
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  Speaker 12: and he brings something that a lot of people don't.
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  Speaker 12: So I think he is. I know it's unpopular opinion,
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  Speaker 12: but I think it's what he They need right now
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  Speaker 12: for a little bit, not for a long term.
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  Speaker 2: Now, Yeah, I see what you're saying. Anybody else went
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  Speaker 2: any thoughts on Darby Allen is the world Champion?
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  Speaker 11: I didn't.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I'm just gonna go with Rick last week, I.
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  Speaker 11: Said, MJF. But I didn't expect Darby to go that quick,
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  Speaker 11: the match being that quick and under like what five
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  Speaker 11: six minutes? So, but I got a hunch when I
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  Speaker 11: saw Dolby walking down the rocking down and kissing his family.
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  Speaker 11: I said, oh, he's winning, and I was like, Yep,
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  Speaker 11: it's happening. When he did the cuffin drop and like
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  Speaker 11: four times I said, Okay, it's done. So I'm happy,
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  Speaker 11: But in a way I'm not because of the match
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  Speaker 11: that MJF had with Kenny at Dynasty and Kenny not
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  Speaker 11: winning it and Darby winning it after.
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  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I get that point, Valerie. It does seem
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  Speaker 2: kind of suspect because I think most people would say
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  Speaker 2: that Kenny Obega has the more stellar career than Darby
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  Speaker 2: has had.
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  Speaker 11: To be far to Darby, he used exactly the same
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  Speaker 11: thing that MGF did to Kenny at Dynasty. Because I
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  Speaker 11: watched the match back and because where I was sitting,
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  Speaker 11: I couldn't see very well. So I watched the end
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  Speaker 11: of the match and I knew that MGF did something,
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  Speaker 11: but I didn't know what. And I watched it again
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  Speaker 11: and then I saw what he did and was like, okay, Darby,
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  Speaker 11: like he's doing the same thing that MJF did to Kenny,
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  Speaker 11: And now I got it.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Tunci, you were gonna speak and let's hear
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  Speaker 2: what your thoughts are.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, So I love Darby Allen's character. I love what
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  Speaker 10: he does. The biggest thing that I feel plays against
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  Speaker 10: him is his continued in ring story of beat up,
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  Speaker 10: beat up, beat up, roll up win.
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  Speaker 13: Now.
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  Speaker 10: I think what he did with Osprey in the Continental
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  Speaker 10: Classic two years ago, that's a match I want to
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  Speaker 10: see from him, and that's a match that I think
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  Speaker 10: would keep him world champion. Otherwise, I do see him
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  Speaker 10: as I guess, sort of transitional. But you know, I
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  Speaker 10: think he has it in him. I want to see it.
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  Speaker 2: Conrad Adam, I'm dying to hear what you have to
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  Speaker 2: say about Darby Allen is here. He's muted.
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  Speaker 7: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 13: I mean the Russians got him. Yep, I'm good. I'm back,
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  Speaker 13: I'm back, I'm free. Uh. The Darby Allen situation is
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  Speaker 13: interesting to me. I couldn't believe like the discourse I
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  Speaker 13: saw online about it, a little bit like people not
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  Speaker 13: getting it. But it could be bad faith. But Darby
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  Speaker 13: Allen I view as a Jeff Hardy Mick Foley hybrid.
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  Speaker 13: Those guys never had really long title reigns. I don't
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  Speaker 13: expect this to go too long. It's kind of a
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  Speaker 13: feel good moment and Darby's usually better on the chase anyway,
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  Speaker 13: So I'm okay with this. It's rewarding a talent who's
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  Speaker 13: an original, who stuck by what he wanted to do
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  Speaker 13: and did it his way.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Shane, Yeah, you know, I wanted to comment
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  Speaker 3: on the Kenny thing in terms of the story that
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  Speaker 3: was being told. You know, they painted Kenny as you know,
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  Speaker 3: the guy that can't get there anymore because of a
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  Speaker 3: permanent injury. You know, it's no surprise that the indestructible
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  Speaker 3: man that just went up to Mount Athem was in
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  Speaker 3: Mount Alverna, my old job, Mount Everest, and and and
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  Speaker 3: planted the a W flag up there like the company guy,
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  Speaker 3: the guy that doesn't look like the company guys, the
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  Speaker 3: company guy force that they gave him this opportunity.
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  Speaker 14: You know.
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  Speaker 3: And though I don't agree with the idea that the
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  Speaker 3: mattress contrive, you know, I do think that you know,
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  Speaker 3: the the quickness and and the surprise had served it
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  Speaker 3: serves a purpose. I also I also agree with Conrad
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  Speaker 3: on the panel that this is going to be a
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  Speaker 3: transitional thing, not that I wanted to be. I think
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  Speaker 3: he could, you know, carry the belt respectfully and for
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  Speaker 3: a long time. But I'm not sure if he's all
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  Speaker 3: you know he's He's made it clear in the character
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm not. I don't need this. It's just a
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's just a trophy, you know, like he
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  Speaker 3: could do it without it, he could be him without it.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm curious.
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  Speaker 3: I would be curious if he did hold it for
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  Speaker 3: a while.
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  Speaker 5: Very what how do we go on picks for this
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  Speaker 5: one for five last week, I think, or one for four, right,
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  Speaker 5: it's only one of us, only one of us picked
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  Speaker 5: him to win.
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  Speaker 7: I was not one of those people.
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  Speaker 2: I was not one of you were you were you were?
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  Speaker 2: Previous was about not yet those people.
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  Speaker 5: And to be clear, I enjoyed Darby's character, as I mentioned,
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  Speaker 5: I think I do enjoy him. I have problems, Tunci.
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  Speaker 5: I think you or conra ever mentioning it Jeff Hardy
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  Speaker 5: mcfoley type. I even used that it's very much the same.
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  Speaker 5: I have trouble accepting him. That being said, I really
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  Speaker 5: enjoyed how they did it. I thought creatively last week's
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: episode did some of the most unique and interesting narrative
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: stuff AW has tried. They made it very clear he
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: was winning from the beginning to build it the whole show.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: They booke ended with the start and the finish with him.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: I thought his promo was emotional and it really grounded
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: me and made me want to root for him. They
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: turned me around to want to see this in a
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: way that I did not before that show because I
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: just I didn't see it. I didn't see the chase.
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: I wasn't emotionally invested. I needed them to make me
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: want to see him overcome, and they did that in
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: his promo and to Valle's point, how he won, I
• 18:01
  Speaker 5: thought was perfect. I don't think it would have had
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: the same significance if they went out there and had
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: a twenty or twenty five minute match. Max getting screwed
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: over by his own underhanded tactics by the always more
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: clever Darby Allen was great and I would encourage people.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: If you've not been on YouTube, there's a YouTube account
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: called Tranquilo Club and he's an aw fan. He used
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: to post a lot more, he's very rare. Now does
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: a video once every six months to a year. And
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: he covered this in a very unique way and traced
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: back the headlocked takeover that MJF and Darby have done
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: all the way back to the Indies. This is a
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: finish that they have been doing for years before aaw
• 18:39
  Speaker 5: and I was not aware of that collection and learning
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: some more of that just it's a little cherry on
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: top of It's one of those extra special things that
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: when you go real deep on the indie scene and
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: your knowledge of a of performers goes real deep, you
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: get a little extra satisfaction on how they did it.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: I was really satisfied at the end of the show.
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: I think it'll be transition Tory. I don't see him
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: being his character. Just getting the crap beat out of
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: him explains him losing it in a short term anyways,
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: because he's always getting beat up. It would make sense
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: he can't overcome everything. So but I enjoyed it. I
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: questioned the choice, but I thought how they executed it
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: was quite good.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Chris, have you got yet?
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: But very said about ninety percent of what I was
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: going to like just took the words right out of
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: my mouth.
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: But my apologize.
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: Now, Okay, The only thing I will add is you
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: look at Darby Allen's other title rings, his He and
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: T title ran. He was the guy who defended that
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: title week after week after week, and it ended up
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: biting him in the butt In the end because he
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: had a relatively short rain. You know, He's going to
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: do the same thing with the world title because he
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: believes that a champion should be defending against any and
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: all challengers. So I think how he won work, and
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: I think the run will be a short you know,
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: burning the candle at both ends tend to run for him,
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: which is perfect for him in his character.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what, I kind of agree with what
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Barry said because the build up throughout the show, starting
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: right at the beginning with MGF supposedly not even being
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: aware that he had a match and that it was
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: opening the show because it was originally slated to open
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: the show, but it didn't, but they built up the
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: emotion all the way through. But I think the biggest
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: thing that happened that I took away from this is
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: that at the end of the show, you came away
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: from that show thinking, Hey, anything it can happen in
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: aw It's not going to always follow the script, you know,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: because I was looking at this like, there's just no
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: way that Darby's going to win this match.
• 20:51
  Speaker 9: All the way until he got the pin, I was
• 20:53
  Speaker 9: still thinking there is no way he's going to win
• 20:56
  Speaker 9: this match.
• 20:57
  Speaker 14: That man.
• 21:00
  Speaker 9: After he did after he did get the pin, I
• 21:03
  Speaker 9: was thinking, there's no way that he just won that match.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: And you know who else thought the same thing that
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: I thought, MGF, because he went nuts. He played this
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: to perfection.
• 21:19
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: I can't read this out, but there's a tweet that's
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: out there for people that are not watching us live
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: on YouTube and are listening to us on Apple podcasters,
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: Spotify or iHeartRadio or whatever. I mean, he kicked me
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: in the nuts. He did this, he did that. He's
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: a cheater. I'm going to he just MGF went nuts.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Now here's the thing. Right after this match was over,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: the reports that were coming out saying that MGF was
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: going to immediately be filming a movie. But then in
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: the middle of the week, it was reports coming out
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: that MGF is playing a part at Double or nothing.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: So this may be something that's going to keep going on.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Maybe MGF faces Darby Allen again. And you know how
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: that script goes, the champion that just wins the championship
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: wrestles the former champion and wins kind of validates them
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: as the new champion. But now with what happened at
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: the main event that Dynamite spring breakthrough. I don't know
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: if that's gonna happen this time. And speaking of Dynamite,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: that really wasn't a discussion topic, but I do want
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: to bring this up. And now that Conrad's here, Conrad,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: why don't you tell everybody about your podcast? Tomorrow night?
• 22:38
  Speaker 7: There we go.
• 22:39
  Speaker 13: If I can hit the mute button. Yeah, we're gonna
• 22:41
  Speaker 13: be talking Dynamite right after Dynamite goes off the air.
• 22:44
  Speaker 13: If you guys come over to Everything Pro Wrestling or
• 22:46
  Speaker 13: at EPW show, we're gonna be talking about everything that
• 22:49
  Speaker 13: we're running down tonight. So it's always fun. Good time
• 22:53
  Speaker 13: come talk some pro wrestling with me and my buddy Derek.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Conrad and Derek. There's so much fun people on
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: the podcast. I know, Chris, you've been there. I don't
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: know if anybody else is. Yeah, it's so much fun.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: I have a good time every time i'm on that show.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: You know, not on the show, but listening to the show.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: They're they're very fun and give it a shot. So
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: let's talk about MGF now and Darby Allen and well
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Tomasco Champa because we have a world Championship match tomorrow
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: night between Tomaso Champa and Darby Allen. Who wasn't that
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: said that they were kind of tired of seeing Darby Allen,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: you know, following the script of getting his ass kick
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: to then roll up at the end of the match.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: Who wasn't that said pretty much? Yeah, I mean very
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: reminiscent Darby Allen. The way his matches go is very
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: reminiscent of Orange Cassidy matches to me, especially when Orange
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Cassidy was held the international title on that what was
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: a forty four defense ring. But let's look at this match.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: What needs to happen in this match? And do you
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: think that MGF gets involved in this someone.
• 24:08
  Speaker 6: And it's involved in the match. But I wouldn't. I
• 24:13
  Speaker 6: wouldn't be shocked if we see some post match Janigin's
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: at fault again. As far as what the match needs
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: to be, I think we do need to see Darby
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: Allen getting some solid offense. You know, he's the he's
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: always going to be the kid who takes three stots
• 24:31
  Speaker 6: to give one and just never stops fighting. And with Tomaso,
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: you know he'll have that. But he needs that big
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: kind of fiery comeback, not just a quick roll up.
• 24:45
  Speaker 10: I do think Tamassa. Champ is the perfect guy to
• 24:47
  Speaker 10: give him that match.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: Just like the match.
• 24:52
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I think he's pretty good at getting blown up
• 24:56
  Speaker 10: in the ring and just having a high, fast paced
• 24:59
  Speaker 10: match because Darby.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: One of the interesting things too on Dynamite is they
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: went out of their way to line up challengers for
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Darby before he even won. Champas said he was going
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: to say it. Kevin Knight came out and said he
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: wants a shot at the title. So I think Kelson
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: or somebody else in the moment was just was mentioning that,
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: you know, what are they doing? And I think one
• 25:21
  Speaker 5: of the keys to kind of solidify Darby is you
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: don't want him in there against a big person because
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: it's just going to make him look super small. And
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: so they've got him in there, and they've lined up
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: challengers that are relatively the same in height. Chompa's bigger
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: than a muscular wise, but he's not a huge dude.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: Same for Kevin Knight. Fit athletic but not a huge dude.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: And let Darby go in there and have a match.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: Ree he doesn't get the crap beat out of him.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm sure Chompo beat him up and throw
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: him around a little bit. But people forget too And
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: we even mentioned this last week, like Darby can wrestle
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: like he's good in the ring. When he's not just
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: doing a match er, he gets beat up. So I'm
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: really excited to see what they can do. I hope
• 25:56
  Speaker 5: they give him ten, twelve, fifteen minutes to go out
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: there and really have a good time and remind people
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: that Darby's more than just a spotfest guy.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you a specific question, Barry, do you
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: think that Darby needs a dominant win or is he
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: okay doing the way he's going now.
• 26:13
  Speaker 7: I don't want it as the champ.
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: I don't want to see him with the he gets
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: beat up and scores with a with a roll up
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: with Orange Cassidy. Back in the day that made sense
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: because him being exhausted as a champion. How's he going
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: to get out of this one? As part of the
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: story as a fresh champ, I.
• 26:26
  Speaker 7: Want to see him go.
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: He's he's got to be established as as a guy
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: who's worthy of carrying that belt. And somebody gets the
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: crap beat out of him and wins in a fluke win.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: Isn't that guy? And so I think I am hoping,
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: let me put it that way, that we get a
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: more competitive match than traditional with Darbyan.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: Well, Conrad Conrad has raised his hand, so I'm going
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: to go to Conrad here for his opinion.
• 26:48
  Speaker 13: I just have one thing I wanted to bring up
• 26:50
  Speaker 13: to the panel. There's something interesting about to Masco Champ.
• 26:54
  Speaker 13: I don't know if anyone caught his tweet, but first time
• 26:57
  Speaker 13: he challenged for the NXT Championship, he won the championship.
• 27:02
  Speaker 13: First time he challenged for this, like, he went through
• 27:05
  Speaker 13: all the titles and he was like, first time I
• 27:07
  Speaker 13: challenged for the Ring of Honor TV title, I won it,
• 27:09
  Speaker 13: And I was just like, that's interesting. It was a
• 27:12
  Speaker 13: good way to get people believing like it could happen again.
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: So yeah, that's last week. Anything can happen. Who said
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: that like anything can happen? They established that last week,
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: So that's a good.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Point, yeah, I Conrad.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: I mean there was a period of time that Tamaso
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Choppa carried NXT. What a great time for NXT as well.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: I mean that was the golden.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: Era that.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: You guys really I want to ask the whole panel,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: you guys really think that m isn't going to interfere
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: with this match in some shame or form, albeit whether
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: he's coming out himself, masking up or paying someone on
• 27:49
  Speaker 3: camera to come out here and mess with them himself
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: and themselves not being directly involved. I mean, like, I
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: think given the nature of how he lost, I think
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: he'd have more incentive to run out there and be
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: hand is on with revenge, you know, desperation.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Shane is to return to the devil or as we
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: like to call him, CM punk.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Don't drag me back there.
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: So Shane, though on that, like MGF, is not going
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: to let somebody else win that belt. He's not gonna
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: screw Darby over in the chump, but he wants it.
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: He wants to beat Derby. So maybe afterwards, but I
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: don't think he's going to impact the finish to this
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: match because he's the one that wants to take the
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: belt off Derby right.
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: By any means, by any means necessary.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: The low hanging the low hanging fruit is this thing,
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: and I do agree with you he wants to take
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: it off the Derby. I wasn't implying that, but I
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: would see him like and obviously you.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Know this is a This is just filler.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: You know, he's gonna Darby's gonna go over Champa. They're
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: not going to be you know, popcorning the aw World Championship.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: That's not going to be a thing. It's not at
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: least right not right now in terms of story.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: But like, yeah, yeah.
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: See, I gotta agree with Ferry. I don't think he's
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: gonna interfere in the match, but I think I wouldn't
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: be surprised if he comes out a piece of crap
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: out at Derby afterwards. And I think it's going rematch
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: at double or nothing, And MJS isn't going to wrestle
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: at all between now and DOUBLERR Nothing because he needs
• 29:22
  Speaker 6: time to recover. If darb he can say, if Darby
• 29:25
  Speaker 6: wants to be stupid and defend against every Tom Dick
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: and Harry out there, fine, no matter what happens, I
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: am in the main event for the world title at
• 29:37
  Speaker 6: double R Nothing.
• 29:38
  Speaker 12: No, I think it's a good idea for him to do.
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Every week.
• 29:43
  Speaker 12: I don't think he will, but I myself really kind
• 29:47
  Speaker 12: of want Darby to get away from the coffin drop
• 29:50
  Speaker 12: as much as the finisher and start using the death
• 29:53
  Speaker 12: drop and stuff. Start a little more tamer and easier.
• 29:57
  Speaker 7: To pull off. But he's going to do excellent job.
• 30:01
  Speaker 12: I love the way he's doing stuff. The m JF
• 30:04
  Speaker 12: is gonna buy his time and they could have a match,
• 30:07
  Speaker 12: But that doesn't mean that m JF needs a title
• 30:09
  Speaker 12: back either.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: Who if if they run back the the m JF
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Derby match and MJF does lose and Darby continues to carry,
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: what happens after.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: That's a good question. Something for Forbidden Door baby.
• 30:28
  Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean you can find someone from from Biden Door.
• 30:31
  Speaker 12: You can do some other things too, but and there's
• 30:34
  Speaker 12: other people.
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: I just l Jeff Barado, l Jeff Barado in a
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: freaking death match.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Well you need somebody about Darby size, so.
• 30:48
  Speaker 6: L o something.
• 30:53
  Speaker 12: Yeah, anyway, you don't like wanting.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: To have it?
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: Well like uh, I liked he said Shade. Who is
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: that mask?
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: Man?
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I think it would be something to see MGF come
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: out with a full body suit with a mystico type match,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: a luchadora type match, mask on, I mean, and beat
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: the hell out of Darby Allen. But Wardlow comes out
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: to save Darby Allen but ends up helping MJF. That's
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: a good way to get wardlow Beck. He's apparently ready
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: to come back. I mean we can go full circle
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: on this.
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: I don't know and Don tallas owes JF and.
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: That's very true.
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: What if he sends Andrade out, What if and doesn't
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: want to help, is not gonna want to help?
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: Nope, they shook hands and he's avoided beating him up.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Is there anybody else that had an opinion about this
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: match and this storyline? All right, then well let's go
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: on to the next match, because the ongoing saga will
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: Osprey getting the crap beat out of him by Don
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Kallis family members is going to continue on aw Dynamite.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: And when I say that, I kind of mean it.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I think Mark Davis is going to target Will Ospray
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: and I basically murder him and set Osprey back, so
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: that come double or nothing, whatever match Osprey has, he's
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: going to be beaten, broken in the complete underdog and
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: puke and rally and get get it done. What do
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: you guys think about this match right here?
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: Anyone?
• 32:35
  Speaker 12: I think it has potential to be pretty darn good.
• 32:38
  Speaker 12: They know each other, they fought each other, so this
• 32:40
  Speaker 12: will be good.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I'm sorr. I haven't.
• 32:44
  Speaker 10: I'm sorry.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: I think I think the repackage on Mark Davis has
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: been awesome. I don't think he needs Yeah, I think
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: he I think the repackage on him has been absolutely awesome.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: But I think he's going to hang around the mid cart.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: I think we all know how this match fense. We'll
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: get some cool wrestling, and Osprey's going to go over Unus.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Of course, don Cal's family comes out kicks the crap
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: out of him. Again, does it matter at this point
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: because he's going to get his redemption arc at some point.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: They're building it up United Empire or not.
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: Well, we do will be the guy.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Well, we do have that pay per view coming up
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: between Forbidden Door and all In called Redemption, and I
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: think this is built for Will Osprey. I do think
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Will Osprey is going to be in the main event
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: at all In, but he's got to get his redemption
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: to earn it, and that maybe is the winner of
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: the because it looks like Redemption is going to be
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: where the winner of the owen Hart is decided.
• 33:38
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, that makes sense. I think I learned it.
• 33:43
  Speaker 14: Back in.
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: I want to say it was twenty twenty twenty three
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: New Japan Cup, Spray and Martevis squared off and they
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: had a fantastic match, and I would say both guys
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: have only gotten better since then. So I'm really really
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: hoping and this one gets fifteen, maybe even close to twenty,
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: and they just let these guys go because if they do,
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: it will be one of the best matches I've seeing,
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: you know, in the last three weeks.
• 34:14
  Speaker 7: Definitely fun, This will be fun.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: I'm with you, Kelson, he it's funny because Brian Alvarez
• 34:23
  Speaker 5: on on the various restingers are we live in radio
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: shows mention that Will always loses his way to championships,
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: which is which is funny and I think is stupid.
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: I really, I really hope that if Tony decides he's
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: going to be the guy that we get a nice
• 34:39
  Speaker 5: long winning streak from Will. I think I think it's due.
• 34:42
  Speaker 5: But to Chris's point, these guys know each other inside out.
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: They'll get ten to fifteen minutes, have a lot of fun.
• 34:50
  Speaker 5: I don't think it really matters to finish. We all
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: know the Kalla's family is going to be involved. That's
• 34:53
  Speaker 5: a storyline. But I will say, like I just from
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: Will even come on the paper I really enjoy the
• 35:01
  Speaker 5: intensity he had and just the violence he showed towards
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: mox It's a side of Will I don't think we've
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: really seen. He's been too puppy dog to use jess
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: A's a phrase to describe him.
• 35:13
  Speaker 7: And I'd like.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: To see some of that intensity come back, especially this
• 35:17
  Speaker 5: is a match where Mark can take a beating because
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: he's a big, thick, boss dude, and I'd like to
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: see Will up that intensity a little bit. And I'd
• 35:24
  Speaker 5: like to see some of the stuff he did against
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: Moxley come back.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Anybody else with an opinion about this.
• 35:28
  Speaker 10: Match, I think there will be some sort of death
• 35:31
  Speaker 10: writer presence.
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: Oh.
• 35:35
  Speaker 10: Will lost to Mocks in the Continental Rules match. That's
• 35:39
  Speaker 10: fair and square. There's no reason for there to be,
• 35:42
  Speaker 10: you know, anything more other than the redemption. But it
• 35:45
  Speaker 10: was Marina Shaffir that showed up to his match last week.
• 35:49
  Speaker 10: You know they're coming to Will. Where's that going?
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: That's very true. Well, we're just gonna have to wait
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: and see, because I think a lot of this is
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: going to be answered tomorrow. And uh, I really do
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: believe it's it's gonna be a redemption arc where they're
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: in the owen Hart Tournament. I think Will Osprey is
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: gonna get his opportunity to beat everybody that wronged him
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: on his way to winning the owen Hart Cup Foundation Tournament.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: It's as simple as that. But you know, there's another
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: match on Dynamite tomorrow night, and this one is kind
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: of really interesting. Mina Shirakawa against Hikaru Shidah. Shidah looks
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: like she's the heel of this era of her existence. Shirakawa,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Mina's just Mina. They don't trust each other. Do you
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: think do you think that Sheidah is the one that
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: took out Tony Storm.
• 36:47
  Speaker 11: I don't know.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Yes, the answer is yes. The answer is yes, well,
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: absolutely yes.
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying nothing else.
• 36:54
  Speaker 7: And you can't. You can't just drop that and be like,
• 36:58
  Speaker 7: I'm walking away your drink.
• 37:00
  Speaker 3: Can't be that he'l she she does awesome, Just let
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: it be. Let it cook. It's too soon, let it cook.
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: It's a yes, And when it's when that covers pulled back,
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be awesome. Enjoy the ride.
• 37:13
  Speaker 6: You know, I'm definitely hoping for to see return, So
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: I would not mind that one bit, and it would
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: kind of make sense. You know Tony Storm. I mean,
• 37:25
  Speaker 6: Hikarisheeda may not have been the first champion, but for
• 37:28
  Speaker 6: a long time she was really the ace of that division.
• 37:33
  Speaker 6: Like she was the top wrestler, and then she had
• 37:36
  Speaker 6: all her visa issues and Tony Storm comes up with
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: this crazy gimmick and now she's the top deals. I
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: could see a situation where Shida was just suing about that,
• 37:48
  Speaker 6: and yeah, decided to just take her out, you know,
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: go after what she won't.
• 37:53
  Speaker 14: You know.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: One of the things I did want to bring up here.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know how quite to say this without sounding condescending.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: When you have two Japanese born and raised wrestlers and uh,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: they're doing really really well on their English promos, especially Shida,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: she is fantastic. Yeah, I have to give her props
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: go ahead.
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: Like when the Japanese performers yell at each other in Japanese,
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: there's just there's a couple of languages when they're angry,
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: sound just terrifying German.
• 38:28
  Speaker 7: German is one of them, and Japanese is another one.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: Like like when when they're worked up, it's just it's
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: just terrifying to hear it.
• 38:35
  Speaker 7: And I love it.
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: I really enjoyed when they would go at each other
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: a little in Japanese and then and then partner it
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: with the English summary, so to speak. Uh, I enjoy
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: when they do that both in W W E and
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: A W I. I like that a lot, and I
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: hope the emotion comes out a little more so.
• 38:54
  Speaker 6: When it's a very total language. So yeah, you have
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: like inflection is things like that are very important because
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: you can have one word spelled the same way but
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: mean nine different things just based on how you say.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: It just sounds terrifying. I don't I don't know what
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: they're saying.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: It just sounds well, well, barry somebody, barry somebody. And
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: I have to apologize because I don't remember what it was.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: But somebody did translate the conversation between me to Shirkao
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: and Karshia. The only thing I could remember was that
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: it was really funny. It was funny, but you couldn't
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: understand it because well I could understand it because I
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: don't speak Japanese.
• 39:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: Well, like even Takesha and no kinda got into I
• 39:37
  Speaker 5: love and Takesha today.
• 39:39
  Speaker 7: It's just I don't know.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: It's one of those fun things when you've got a
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: really strong international roster where you can kind of pull
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: those things out because we all know in real life
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: they'd be yelling at each other in their native tongues.
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: So it's fun and just it's just a fun little
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: thing that that they can do on TV and I
• 39:56
  Speaker 5: people yelling in Japanese.
• 39:57
  Speaker 7: It's just it's just it's just fun.
• 39:59
  Speaker 10: I think between the last two Hida promos last week
• 40:03
  Speaker 10: and the online exclusive two weeks ago, this has me
• 40:07
  Speaker 10: with or or it has me hooked as my most
• 40:11
  Speaker 10: I guess anticipated program they translated two weeks ago also,
• 40:16
  Speaker 10: and I think Sheida is doing this two face kind
• 40:19
  Speaker 10: of thing where she's nice in English and mean in Japanese.
• 40:24
  Speaker 10: So much you could do with that, especially leading into
• 40:26
  Speaker 10: Forbidden Doors. Who is she going to be to the
• 40:29
  Speaker 10: aw roster?
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: What what's the angle with Chris too? Are they like
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: setting them up to be a new tag team? Try
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: to get Chris to go like, what's what's that angle too?
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: And then Hidah was like creeping on Willow a couple
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: of weeks ago. They've kind of left that dangling out there,
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: so she's come back with a vengeance.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Chris clearly does not trust to Karlsheta, and I think
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: that's what the purpose is, to have somebody that clearly
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: doesn't trust Hidah, you know, to put that sheet doubt
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: in because, let's face it, she'd has been the baby
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: face of the company since she started with the company. Yeah,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: and she's a day warner.
• 41:08
  Speaker 10: She's that n saver that'll talk nice to you in
• 41:11
  Speaker 10: front of you and then go talk to your other
• 41:13
  Speaker 10: neighbors about you.
• 41:14
  Speaker 7: And Shiva, Yeah, Shiv Shiva.
• 41:17
  Speaker 6: There you go.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: I also think that it's important to highlight that Herkaroshida
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: is the second most decorated women's World champion in aw
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: She's three to four to Tony Storm. I couldn't put it.
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: It's believable that she was the one that took her
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: out of the game.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Wasn't she?
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: It was the ace before Tony kind of took that
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: mantle too, was the first three time champ, you.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: Know when when she had the last lost her title.
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: Wasn't it Tony Storm to defeat him?
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: I think something sure was at full gear back in
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty three.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Baby, Yeah, So there is that arc there. Of course,
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: we still don't know what's going on with Tony Storm,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: but still doesn't look like she's going to be back
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: before the end of twenty twenty six. I think she's
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: it's work chat No, No, I really don't at this point.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I don't because they would have said something. I kind
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: of agree with the expand upon that, Shane, you think
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: it's a work.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: What you're taking well, I mean, like from the from
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: the obvious for the optics are you know if she
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: we would be hearing more things about an injury, what
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: kind of injury she would have? We have heard nothing.
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: It's been radio silenced. I mean not to mention like
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: how well it played into the story. Someone's going to
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: come out beat or take her out of the game.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Isn't Tony Storm's whole entire thing being an actress? Didn't
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: she put over playing her old self less than an
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: a half ago. You couldn't believe that she wouldn't fake
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: being injured as an opportunity to blindside people, messing with
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: their opportunity to get back in the World Championship frame.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: I think Ethckle is.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: A great world champion.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: I would like to see the belt on her, know Tonya, But.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: It's didn't they say though, like the double or nothing
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: match was going to be Tony Tekla like, I don't
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: like I want to believe you, Shane, but just subjectively
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: looking at the situation, a sudden change, she's off TV,
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's the work.
• 43:17
  Speaker 7: It may not be something as yeah, but I mean,
• 43:22
  Speaker 7: like there's wish casting and then there's just looking at
• 43:27
  Speaker 7: reality and this just doesn't make creative sense for that
• 43:30
  Speaker 7: to be a work.
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: Maybe maybe she's not out as long as what they
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: imply or something, you know, because they said she's gonna
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: be had a long time and maybe she's back in
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: three months. But like something like that where they're not
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: sharing an injury, it leads me to believe it's a
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: serious health scare. There's a family issue, she is with child.
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: It's it's one of those kind of things where it's
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: not something you want out there. She's going to be
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: gone for a significant period time.
• 43:53
  Speaker 12: I would have said she's with child or something by now.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: I'm not sure about you.
• 43:57
  Speaker 12: They don't share, Yeah, that stuff, the announcements.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: I will tell you straight up, some women don't want
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: to put that out in the ether, especially immediately and
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: not and not to mention her husband also works for
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: a w you know, there's obvious implications.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, I mean, we just saw Bianca bell
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Air in the best moment of WrestleMania Night one where
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: she came out looking like Peanut from Jeff Dunham. With
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: that she was just a purple I'm sorry, but I
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: thought of Peanut right away. What the what the belly
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: with the belly, but I was like, that's Peanut, Butaca Bellair,
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: but she was obviously more than two weeks pregnant, you know,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: once she came out and made this announcement and it
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: was though, yes, I mean yeah, but I'm gonna say
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: two words that are gonna have you shivering in antissaation.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: All Right, we're Carloshida against Tony Storm at Redemption because
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: Carlsheeda did, in fact take out Tony Storm. Only Tony
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: Storm knows that that she'da took her out and she's
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: gonna come back, and that's a perfect setup for a
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: match at Redemption. Make the new pay per view something big.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have the owen Hart looks absolutely like you're
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: gonna have the owen Hart Tournament Finals at Redemption, and
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: then you're gonna have a Carusheeda against Tony Storm at redemption.
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: I think that makes the pay per view a must
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: see and that's what you want.
• 45:40
  Speaker 10: Something else that I don't know, have forgotten, maybe I
• 45:44
  Speaker 10: missed it, but two years ago, three years ago, Mercedes
• 45:49
  Speaker 10: Bonnet was attacked and I don't think that ever got
• 45:53
  Speaker 10: a resolved or we never got a conclusion from that.
• 45:57
  Speaker 10: Is the killer still out there?
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're right.
• 46:00
  Speaker 5: That was when she was in the room. No, there
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: was Julie hurt when she was attacked in the room.
• 46:10
  Speaker 7: They revealed it was truly hurt. Was it said?
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I don't remember that. Honestly, I don't so,
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Tuci I was. I'm with you on that one. I
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: didn't remember. It must not have been a very good angle.
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: It was not in one of the better creative This
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: was the at the end, tail end of the Dark.
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Hair, the Dark Ages.
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, they had a rough eighteen months.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: To wrap up the show. I wanted to talk about
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: something that I know is near and dear at the
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: hearts of some of you here Dog Shane Chris, I'm
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: sure you're gonna love this, but I want to talk
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: about June twenty eighth, twenty twenty six, Forbidden Door is
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: coming back and if you look at the graphic, isn't
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: it sweet? You've got a Japan Pro wrestling and for
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: the first time ever, CMLL and Stardom are on the graphic,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: which I think is a must because for me, New
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Japan has nothing to get.
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Its station in the Shark every year, Kelson, you know,
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: I've got to hijack this every year, Kelson. Do just
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: give Forbidden Door to day in court, dude. It it
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: exists for a reason. It's fan serviced, and it's great
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: to see these promotions all working together. You know, I
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: don't to be honestly, I love the program, but I
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: hate the term for Bidden Door. But it's never disappointed
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: not to be well, I.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: Loved the I actually watched for Bid Door last year
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: because I loved the build up toward Forbid Door last
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: year because it wasn't very Forbidden doorsh there wasn't a
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: lot of uh.
• 47:53
  Speaker 7: We've talked about that too.
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: I thought they struck a good balance last year, Kelson,
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: because I agree that Forbidden Door kind of was momentum
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: learn because it would stop all current storylines exactly, and
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: they kept the top three going and the rest was
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: just fun, cool matches.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: That's why it should be.
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, make it a celebration of wrestling. Have a couple
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: you can books up, but keep the main stories going,
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: have those matches still, and the rest is just a
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: celebration of the best people in the world doing what
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: we like to watch.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: There is absolutely no no reason to have a storyline
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: for Forbidden Door. There really isn't because it's just watching
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: the matches. If you watch the matches, if you enjoy
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: the matches, that's all the matters. They don't mean anything.
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: New Japan's never going to win a title from ae W.
• 48:45
  Speaker 7: You know, does you make this graphic?
• 48:47
  Speaker 6: No?
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: I did not make this ground.
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: I'm just just choosing Derby in the casket. I thought,
• 48:54
  Speaker 7: I just pick.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a shark Ian Yeah, I mean for the
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: door jumping there.
• 49:00
  Speaker 7: You go, and the coffin on the Yeah.
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: But the graphic has some cool I mean, Persephone is
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: definitely on the on the graphic. Mexico is on the graphic. Frankly,
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping that we see a really, really, really strong
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: representation from c MLL and started because again, and I
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: mean this from the bottom of my heart, and it
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: pains me to say it. New Japan has nothing.
• 49:32
  Speaker 11: Yeah, right, now, right now, I'm watching the.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: One one or two wrestlers in New Japan that are
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: worth watching. I can't name. I can't name one New Japan. No, no, listen,
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: the only New Japan Pro wrestling. There's only two, and
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: I don't think ones with with New Japan anymore. But
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: he's a Japanese wrestler, so he's from New Japan. The
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: one is Zach Saber Junior, who I cannot stomach watching
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: because matches are listen.
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: That is.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying I don't like watching his matches because
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: I am not a technical match personal that's just not
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: my thing, and I just find his matches to be
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: that matching with him and Nigel Beginnis was so boring.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: I wanted to I wanted to just like jump in
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: the pool if I had one, you know, and drownd
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: myself the.
• 50:30
  Speaker 7: Other one to shoot.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: No, I got to the other one does I said,
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: I had to barry And I know you're gonna appreciate this.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: The world famous Yoshi Tatsu.
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: Isn't that he isn't he doing him?
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: No, that's a that's a we have this guy that
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: comes on to our discord screen. Oh yeah, but everywhere
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: he also on Ready he has I'm not going to
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: say his name, but he has like I think he's
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: up the thirteen versions of his name because he keeps
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: getting banned on all the other ones. And he is
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: a Yoshi Tattoo fan and he he made a subreddit
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: for Yoshi Tattoo that basically says he had his poster
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: all f Kelson f Greatness of Wrestling f a w
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: fan hub because we banned him because he comes onto this.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: That's all he talks about is Yoshi Tattoo.
• 51:28
  Speaker 14: Well, okay, but Garrison, who of Griff's Great Jephenie New
• 51:37
  Speaker 14: Paying guys are interesting.
• 51:39
  Speaker 6: Knockout Brothers are one of the best teams of the world.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: Let me let me stop you who wait, Chris, the
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Knockout Brothers. Who are the Knockout Brothers.
• 51:54
  Speaker 6: Oscar and the Utah Ice. They are graduates. Oscar kids
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: started in the follow Ay Go To and I think
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: Utah spent some time over there as well. They teamed
• 52:06
  Speaker 6: up during their young line day. They went on excursion together,
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: they came back and they have just run over the team.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: So I can honestly say I've never heard of them.
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: They were they I we.
• 52:24
  Speaker 5: Saw I think a preview of one of the matches,
• 52:26
  Speaker 5: We're going to get an anarchy in the arena match
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: and it's going to be United Empire versus Death Writers.
• 52:30
  Speaker 14: I think.
• 52:31
  Speaker 5: I think that's what's gonna happen. Forbidden Door. You still
• 52:34
  Speaker 5: got showed to Umino and Yodasuji out there. You can
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: Zach Seaber Jr. Can come in, like you mentioned, you
• 52:40
  Speaker 5: can bring in render Rita al Fantasmo put him up
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: against how Darby or something like. There's there's a there's
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: a good five six guys you can plug into anything
• 52:50
  Speaker 5: in in this in this uh, this show, I think
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: it'll be heavy. I would like to see the United
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: Empire versus Death Writers for that's that's where they should
• 52:59
  Speaker 5: take place. That I'll get a lot of people on
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: the show. I mean, we all know the depth of
• 53:03
  Speaker 5: CM's roster. They're on TV. A bunch of Baltimore Junior
• 53:06
  Speaker 5: will come over, You've already got missed to go on
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: dual contracts. I'm more interested. Who do you think from
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: stardom will come over? Do you think we'll see like
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: sorry and like like who Kelson you're the stardom expert.
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: Who do you think from stardom just based on who.
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say who I'd like to see, but
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go by the two people. There's two people
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: in the A w to talk length about stardom. That's
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: Tony Khan and uh Kenny Omega. Kenny Omega. Tony Khan
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: and Kenny Omega both start like kid fans. Yeah all right,
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: and so yeah, Kenny Omega is also a fan of
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Uh that's a boy who you know. I mean, I've
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: always said I'm gonna marry her when I grew up.
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: She's cosmic angels, right.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well for right now. Yeah, some someday that may
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: go out the window. Who Techla, tech La bien door.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: I don't believe that Tekla is going to uh to
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: face any She's not gonna be championed door, I don't.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: I don't think.
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: I'd like to say some of the hate ladies come over.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean obviously obviously i'd like to see
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: Sayakamatani come over. Mozilla's injured, so she's not going to
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: be here, but.
• 54:22
  Speaker 7: Uh, she wasn't.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, a Zoomie. There's just literally
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: you could you could pull anybody from the roster on
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: stardom and make a good show out of it. Stardom
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: just had American Dream twenty twenty six on Friday. Uh
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: and there was starter basically a versus a w uh start,
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Starlight Kid, May Sarah and uh oh who was there?
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Who's their partner? A Zoomie a Zuomi, beat the crap
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: out of Willow Nightingale, Harley Cameron and Chris Statlander. I mean,
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: just destroying them.
• 55:05
  Speaker 7: Starlight Kidd hasn't been on TV on aw TV.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: No, no, neither is that's a point matter of fact,
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: that's a point was in at American Dream and she
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: did a couple of indie appearances. That was her first
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: matches in the United States ever. And she's a she's
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: a veteran. Uh Machiedo. Machiedo was uh you know, was
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: supposed to be there, but she was having me says,
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: somebody is making a ton of noise. But anyway, yeah, so,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, and again the same thing goes for CMLL.
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: You've got uh, you know, Persephone, who's definitely gonna be there.
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: From on the women's side, you got Mystic go At Cicero.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: You know, you know, I just did I forbidden there's
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: stuff going on, and there's some questions. Yes, I did
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: say that, I do not believe that at Techla is
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: going to be the champion at Forbidden Door, the AW
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: Women's champion, And even if she is, I do not
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: believe that she will be defending the AW Women's Championship
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: at Forbidden Door. The reason I say that is because
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: it is because she's got two partners and the Sisters
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: of Sin, and you know, in an exhibition match, you
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: want Techla and the Sisters the Sin against three of
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Starterom's best. It's as simple as that. The other thing
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: is is that also for at the American Dream twenty
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: twenty six, Tecla, who the stored. They've been bringing the
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: story up in AW in recent weeks, being fired from
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: stardom for attacking taro Ocatta. At at American Dream twenty
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: twenty six, Tecla showed up and attacked taro Okata again.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: So that is going to be a store worry for
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: Forbidden Door. I'm sorry, that's got to be.
• 57:04
  Speaker 5: Didn't get from Japan and then she's like, okay, so
• 57:07
  Speaker 5: maybe I did get there. Struggle to keep They're going
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: to struggle to keep her as a heel man like
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: she's she's got that breakthrough where people are going to
• 57:22
  Speaker 5: just start cheering her like they do mocks.
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: And you know, because what.
• 57:26
  Speaker 15: We talked about it last week, because she's getting she's getting,
• 57:28
  Speaker 15: she's getting, uh babyface pops as a heel Yeah, same
• 57:35
  Speaker 15: as Benjief gets.
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: He's got that kind of stone cold Eddie Guerrero type
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: of asma where they can do healish things. But the
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: way they do them, the way they act, You're like,
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: all right, it's cool when they do it.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but look when it comes to forbidden door, I
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: don't know what you got. I know that, Chris, I
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: know that you're a new Japan guy. You're you probably
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: want to see pretty much the entire your New Japan
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: roster face the AW roster. But I am much more
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: looking forward to specifically CMLL at stardom, I really am.
• 58:11
  Speaker 6: My idea would honestly be a couple of multi person
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: tag matches where you have AW stardom in CML New
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: Japan and AW like that United you know, like the
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: Anartidy arena idea United Empire. You could have Osprey representing
• 58:31
  Speaker 6: a w an a Great o'con representing New Japan. Templario
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: representing CMLL and you know, maybe, like I mentioned on Tronte,
• 58:45
  Speaker 6: is part of it, n jp W and man him
• 58:48
  Speaker 6: and Don Kallas like getting along, Like I could see
• 58:52
  Speaker 6: that split happening.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: And let me ask you guys a question. This is
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: probably the last question because we're gonna wrap this up
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: because we are running a little long with Forbidden Door.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Would you rather see no title matches and just straight
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: up brawls to me? Look to me, it looks when
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: you have a title match. To me, when you have
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: a title match, A predetermines the winner. I'd rather see
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: a brawl well where you were any a W title
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: being being any a W title defended it after Bidden.
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: Door against another promotion or between. Because last year I
• 59:36
  Speaker 5: thought it was great the title matches were main storyline
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: a W A W.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: Well last year was kind of a weird situation because
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: Forbidden Door lined up with the UH, with the G
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: One Climax and the Five Star Grand Prix, so you
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: didn't have the representation of do Japan and UH and
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: UH and stardom as you normally would. You know, so,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: but I again my thought is is that don't put
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: an AW title up because it just tells you who's
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: gonna win the match, have it all out brawl or
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: do what Chris said, have multiman or multi women matches
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: with a mix you know, have somebody on one side
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: it'd be AW startum in CMLL and on the other
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: side of AW started in CML. Let them have them,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: let him have at it.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah. Like my idea would probably ten match cards that
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 6: kind of seems right, and what Tony likes to have
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: six that are kind of Forbidden Door matches where you
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 6: have you know, teams of AW New Japan and then
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: for a w kind of specific matches where you focus
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 6: on the key storylines, the heavyweight title, you know, maybe
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: the tag titles of TNT titles something like that, so
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 6: you get all that Forbidden Door goodness, but it's still
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 6: as the host, so it's like we're gonna have our
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: key mat Yeah.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 7: And one of the other things too.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 5: I really wish AW would do, and I think it
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: would help for Forbidden Door season as well. I really
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: think they should recap with a segment, you know, one
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: minute on Collision each week and one minute on Dynamite
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: each week where they just cover their partners and what's
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: going on. Hey, here's the latest from New Japan. Just
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: you know so and so and so and so at
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 5: such and such and one and so and so, especially
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: if you've got aw talent like they do it a
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: little bit during the g One went.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 7: To Kesha's there and Battle to Super Juniors when Nick
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 7: Wayne is there and stuff.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: But like I would like to know what's going on
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: in cmlou, I would like to know what's going on
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: and start them.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 7: I would like to know what's going on in New Japan.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 7: You've got a minute where you.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: Can splice together the highlights and that's it. That way,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 5: when these people show up, I understand if they're a
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: big deal or not, because I'm not going to see
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 5: them weekly, and I especially leading into Forbidden Door, I
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 5: think that will be a value.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: Well, I will say this is that CML CMLL has
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: a show on Friday night. Stardom has their biggest pay
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: per view of the year. I'll start Grand Queendom on Sunday.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: It would be interesting if now with I don't know
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: about CMLL, but would Stardom. It'll be interesting if because
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: after the matches on Stardom they do have like backstage interviews.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: I guess comments by their wrestlers, and I'm hoping on Sunday,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: Stardom wrestlers call out AW wrestlers especially. It wouldn't be
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: wouldn't surprise me at all if somebody said, hey, Tecla,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: you disrespected terror Occatta our boss. I'm coming after you,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: you know, for doing that, and then you can have
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: a match between Techlan somebody from Stardom. Don't make it
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: as title match because we've make it a title match.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: You know, Techla's gonna win it. Make it just a
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: non title brawl. That's what That's what I would be
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: more interested in. There's no reason to put a title
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: up for any of these matches. All right, guys, well
• 1:02:59
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• 1:03:02
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