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In The City Episode 9 Recap · Wicked Messy

• Hali: Hello everyone, we are back for another exciting Friday recording session. Alicia: not really exciting as I'm here. I I'm here Hali: I mean, I don't know. Alicia: on the recording. Usually we're there drinking together. Hali: Yeah, that's true. guess this is the least exciting recording. Or no, this is actually better than when you were in DC. So, Alicia: It's it's depressing actually. DC. That was really depressing. Hali: right. So just a touch of excitement. That's what I was going to say. Yeah, it took a little Alicia: Okay. Just a touch. Just like the finale. Just a touch. Hali: while to warm up and then we got a little bit of boom, boom, pow. And it's like, whoa, what just happened? That was really fast. but yeah, so we're talking about in the city episode nine, which question mark that is the finale. So there will not be another episode, just the reunion. Alicia: Well well that is the episode. The reunion Hali: you Alicia: would be episode ten. Hali: Gotcha, gotcha. Okay. Alicia: Now my understanding of how it works is the network will buy X amount of episodes before like anything happens. Perhaps they got ten saying if we have a lot of stuff, we either won't do a reunion and make it ten episodes, or we can add another one on if the ratings are really good. That's what I think. Hali: Gotcha. Okay, okay. Yeah. And that I mean, that sounds fair because 10 episodes isn't like too many so that you can kind of feel out like how is this show doing? And obviously, Scamanda Alicia: Yeah. Hali: really put this show on the map. So not surprised about the reunion. Alicia: Yeah, I don't know how I would feel about the show had Scamanda not happened. Hali: I know. I'd probably get bored like at episode five and be like, is trash. Alicia: No, literally. It's I mean it got a little bit better, but not really. Alright, we'll talk about it, I guess. I guess we'll talk about it. Hali: Yeah, no, not not as good as it could be. We will. So let's jump. so I finally paid attention to the actual name of this episode and they put it as cider and squabbles. It's like, you kidding me? Who did you hire to make these names for these episodes? Like, honestly, they could do so much better Alicia: They could do better than that. They really could. Hali: because I don't even think there was that many squabbles this time. Alicia: No. They squashed the squabbles. They squashed it. Hali: Like it wasn't a squabbly episode. Yeah. And they were just like, I don't know. I felt like they were like scripted almost this time, but let's get into it. Alicia: All right. We continue back in Connecticut. Hali: Yes, we do. And I did get a good look at that house. Alicia: And the cast is just out with said. Hali: And it is large, but it seems like that Alicia: Yeah. Hali: whole Great Hall was the majority of the house. Alicia: Exactly. The house is huge. It's fucking huge. Like that the bird's eye Hali: I know, but what? Alicia: view, I'm like, my god, this is like how could they afford that? but then you look in Hali: I know, but like what a waste. Yeah. Alicia: we'll get we'll get to that dance call. Whatever it is. Cause Hali: Yeah Alicia: I have a lot of questions on that. all right, Hali: Literally. Alicia: so we see the cast the morning after that like explosive dinner. Okay, Hali: Yep. Yep. Alicia: so Andrea Andrea Hali: and... MY- Don't you dare call him Andrea, my perfect Italian man. Alicia: I do that almost every time. I can't believe that. Mm our Italian Stallion. Hali: But yeah, he wakes up just looking absolutely Alicia: Fresh as a daisy. Hali: gorgeous, flawless, ready for the day. So sweet, so positive. Like how is that created on this earth? Alicia: again, why Lexi? Doesn't make any sense. Hali: You know, but she is very much like, feel like she matches his vibes in the sense of like being super go with the flow and like, Alicia: Mm-hmm. Hali: you don't really know what's going on in that mind a little bit. Like, yeah, so I guess it Alicia: Neither of them, you're right. Either of them you're right. True. Hali: kind of works, but you actually would think maybe that wouldn't work because you need someone to kind of be like popping off a little bit to keep it fiery, but hey, the baby's coming. Alicia: May maybe she is off camera. Hali: Maybe. Yeah, maybe. No, that's absolutely true. But did you hear they're having a girl? Alicia: Yes, yes. And he said what did he say? Hali: Yeah. He said, I'm going to be a daddy girl. And she was like, no, a girl dad. Alicia: That was so adorable. I think so. Or the after show. I think it was maybe the after show. So cute. Hali: Wait, was that on the episode? that was at the end. Gotcha. Okay. So yeah, that was kind of boring though. When they all woke up, it was kind of like, get my coffee. And then Andre is just looking hot. Alicia: and while what was Georgina wearing? It was red and white striped pajamas. It looked like there should be a candy cane on it. Literally. It was like Christmas PJs. I was like, What month is it? Hali: You know, I'm done with her. Literally after this episode, this exact episode, I'm like Georgina, I'm like over you, over you. Alicia: And I'm actually crushed to say that because I really liked her those first two episodes and I saw a Hali: Yeah. Alicia: lot of potential. Honestly, it wasn't until she really lashed on to Lindsay that her downfall happened. Hali: I know, because it's so fucking obvious that she's like, I need to be like your backup and like your mouthpiece. that's exactly 100%. Alicia: Minion, her minion. Literally Her Minion. Hali: Yeah, she like took that and ran with it. Alicia: Yeah. They they did have a quick flashback of the night before and it's Hali: yeah. Alicia: Lindsay's like, I got pelted on my butt with one of the paintballs and she Hali: Yes? Alicia: like pulls her pants down and shows Gavin or something. Hali: No, so Kyle was the one to be like show Gavin and then it looked like Lindsay showed Kyle because Kyle was right behind her. But Gavin was sitting across the fire pit Alicia: Okay, yeah, I thought I Okay. Hali: and I'm like, wait, I'm so confused. Why are you doing that? I that was like your brother. Alicia: Well it is, I think, right? It's just the the the butt's so hard 'cause it's like, well, what part of the butt was it? Was it the top or are we getting close to dangerous territory? Hali: Right. Well, exactly. then Kyle just like totally ruins it and says like, there's like a little welts and a dingleberry. Like I can't with him. he's and he's drinking through this whole Connecticut trip. Like, my God, Alicia: yeah. He can't take anything seriously, not that that's something to take serious. he's so fucked up. He's spiraling. Hali: he's spiraling hard. Yeah. Alicia: Yeah, that was boring though. And then Andrea although I will say this real quick, I need one of those sticks that Andrea has making s'mores that you can put like six s'mores at once. It's like a pitchfork. Hali: he was so excited about the fucking s'mores. Do they not do that in Italy? Was that like a joke that they were like, they're made by Italians? It's like, wait, but are they? There's no way. Alicia: That's a great question. There's no way they make s'mores. That feels like such an American thing, right? Hali: That's, I can't even imagine people in Italy around a fire. I don't think they do that. Alicia: mean neither. Do let's I wish he was here and he could just tell us. I love him. Hali: I know. He's he's big bucks, though. I mean, he's he's shooting for what? Like fucking Dolce and Gabbana and shit. Alicia: okay, let's know the last. Hali: Okay. Alicia: my god. Alright, s'mores aren't a traditional Italian dessert, but you can definitely make them with an Italian twist. Instead of graham crackers use Italian pizzell cookies or toasted biscotti. And swap the Hershey's bar. Do they not have Hershey's bars there? For a rich Nutella or Italian hazelnut spread. Hali: They definitely have Hershey's bars, but they probably are saying because it's like Nutella is like an Italian thing. So like to make it Italian. Alicia: they're saying they're saying that's that's stupid. So yeah, they can make them there. They can make them anywhere. Anyways. Hali: Yeah. Yeah, that is stupid. Yeah. Alicia: okay. Lindsay was FaceTiming Gemma, which I always enjoy seeing because she's so cute. Gemma's so cute. I just wanna squeeze her face. Hali: Yeah, I know. I just wish we could have seen baby daddy. Alicia: She actually like brought him up randomly out of nowhere in the after Hali: Yeah. Alicia: Gemma called and she's like, you know, obviously I thought things were gonna work out with baby daddy and stuff, and they just didn't. And I Hali: I know. Alicia: didn't come on this trip to be yelled at by people that are talking about things that they know nothing about. That's what she said. Hali: Right, and I'm missing moments with my daughter for this shit and you're still gonna be talking shit. Yeah. Yeah, Alicia: Yes. Yeah. Hali: yeah, yeah. No, she's such a cutie, but I don't know. I need this story on the baby daddy and everything that transpired, because it seemed like very hush-hush and she put a lid on that, obviously, because he was like, I'll fucking kill you. Alicia: They they they all put a lid on it though, you know? It's like Hali: I know, no one's touched it. Alicia: and that's the thing, it's like obviously these people really tr most of them really don't like Lindsay. And it would be so easy to ruin things for her on any level by even bringing it up, not even, you know, getting her in trouble with baby daddy, just by bringing it up would really get her. But it Hali: bright. Alicia: the situation must be so delicate that even like Whitney and stuff like, I'm not touching that with the ten foot pole. Hali: I have a feeling he's a doctor. Alicia: He's a doctor. He's probably connected and shit. You didn't know that? Hali: No, I thought he was like in finance. Alicia: my god, he's a doctor. She was like bragging about it. I don't know. Let's see. Maybe you could Hali: What kind of doctor do you know? shit. Yeah, because didn't it get leaked like who he was? Yeah, and he's pretty good looking too. Alicia: I don't remember what he looks like. Baby daddy jobs. I'm so confused. Okay, so I don't know what this means. a biotech investor and doctor. He works at Turner Koof. He works as a vice president of research and investments at Royal Pharma and formerly worked at JP Morgan. What a crossover. Sonia. Hali: wait, wait, wait, why would an MD, a doctor, work for JP Morgan? Alicia: He graduated from Tufts University School of Medicine as an MD in twenty seventeen. Hali: specialty. Alicia: I don't know, that's all it said. Hali: it sounds like he's quite a traitor because he's now working for Big Pharma We don't we don't like those people yeah, yeah He's a literally quite literally Alicia: I don't know. Is that a traitor to you people? Okay. Then he's a traitor doctor. And and and boyfriend. Hali: to hell. Alicia: To Lindsay. He's a traitor. Hali: yeah, I get what you're doing there. Yeah. Alicia: You know, I mean I get I get she can be tough, but there's no reason you should be breaking up with her three weeks after the baby's born. Hali: No, I know. Like the second you meet Lindsey, you know who she is, you know how she moves, you know, she's gonna let you know right away. It's like nothing's really hidden. So what were you surprised by? Alicia: Yeah, right. Right. Hali: Bye. Alicia: I mean they he so whatever. I really don't care about this well. Actually I care about this more than the recap because the recap's bullshit. Hali: Literally. Yeah. Alicia: but my god, what was I gonna say? Hali: I don't know, but she's not happy. She's like pissed online. She's like over it. Everyone's talking shit. Everyone's bullying her. Alicia: She's yeah, well, she's putting herself in some bad situations with this, with this cast trip. So all Hali: She is. Alicia: right, let's talk first again about how awkward the clip of Whitney and Danielle. I think they were food shopping or something. Enough Hali: Yep, in the grocery store. Yep. Alicia: with the grocery stores, by the way, and the bodegas. Hali: I know. Alicia: Who who when they have to schedule everything when they're booking these scenes months ahead, are they freaking calling their local bodegas and Brooklyn and saying, Hey, we're gonna be filming there is can you just clear out the entire freaking store? So weird. It is unnatural. There's nothing Hali: true and I like that's so like so unnatural I know that's why it's like it's Alicia: and that's the funny thing. It's to make it the most natural. And it's so unnatural. Hali: Right. Right. They must like set up the cameras in like a certain like corner in the store and be like, we got to chat there. Like, that's fucking weird. Alicia: speaking, just a real quick detour. Speaking of grocery stores, so Hali: Uh-huh. Alicia: you must have seen although I don't know because we didn't send this to each other, I don't think. so as you may have noticed recently there have been a lot of rumors circulating about Amanda being pregnant because of some photos and then it's she's not, obviously. Hali: and then she posted the video. Alicia: her and Wes posted a video of her at the grocery store. Hali: making fun of all these rumors and getting all the pregnancy items. Yeah, it makes me want to strangle Alicia: getting pickles and ice cream. and I was Hali: her. Alicia: well, actually it it made me upset because I really thought that was funny and I didn't appreciate her making me laugh with her. I was like, damn, that's a good one. It's a really good one. Hali: I think I watched like six seconds of it and I was like, no, I'm done with you. Like you're not allowed to do anything like this. Like you can't start turning the tables here. It's too soon. Alicia: Yeah, this is way too funny. I'm not ready to like you yet. I guarantee just knowing myself and all of these people. They're all monsters on Bravo, like whatever. Besides Paige and yeah. Except for Paige Andrea and Hannah. Yeah. Hali: Yeah. Except for Andrea. Yeah. We should be together. Yeah. Yeah. Alicia: Yeah, right, exactly. Get Alexi out. Just kidding. I l no, she's so good. What? Hali: Which speaking of Paige, you didn't really respond to one of the messages I sent you on Instagram about, I think it was Dumois, posted an anonymous tip that someone is alleging that Paige got engaged in Italy. And this comes after, Alicia: yeah, that's not true. Hali: okay, that's what I thought. And then it comes after Paige did that, which I found out on Giggly Squad that it was actually a live photo, but she made it a video. Alicia: of her getting dragged away. Hali: Yeah, and it was Joe. grabbing her and that's when I think everyone ran with him and was like, my God, she got engaged. I'm like, you guys are fucking stupid. Like, that's not what happened there. Wish it Alicia: Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, what's girly pop doing? First thing we're getting is a beautiful photo of that ring. And if she and o Hali: Exactly. Exactly. I was looking at her fingers and every post she's done of Italy. Yeah. Alicia: my god, and I'm actually wicked smart. think about this too. If her boyfriend loved her, which it looks like he does, and knows her at all, then you would know that per Paige can't get her nails done in Italy. Hali: Right. Alicia: She wants nice and fresh, so unless you did it three days after you landed. So there you go. Debunked. Hali: Yeah. Alicia: There's no way. Hali: Well, and Hannah's not in Italy. She's not ever going to get engaged without Hannah president. Alicia: That's another great thing. I mean if anyone's going to be Hali: I don't think she will. Alicia: there, if anyone's going to be there, it needs to be Hannah and like her mom, I guess. yes. Can't forget them. Can't forget them. Hali: Yeah. Yeah. And, Gary squared. Yeah, exactly. Alicia: okay. So back to the bodega. Or nowhere in Connecticut, so it's probably just a good old stop and shop. Still. Hali: No, was, if probably, yeah. And did you hear Danielle's comment about getting box mashed potatoes? I don't know why, but that really stuck out to me and really pissed me off because I'm like, that's disgusting. Who eats box mashed potatoes? You can't spoil. Alicia: I think Tim used to get that a lot. Are you talking about boxed mash? Hali: Like it's, it's yeah, it's like powder. It's disgusting. Yeah. Yeah. Alicia: What? Powder? you like I don't understand. Hali: That's the thing no one does you like add milk and butter and it just becomes mashed potatoes. It's like Alicia: What? Hali: like we're not in space. We don't need to eat powder out of a packet. Yeah, and she was like so down Alicia: I've never heard of such a thing. Why would anyone do that? Hali: for it and they all were like what? Daniel no like we're getting Alicia: Yeah. Hali: potatoes and we're fucking mashing them ourselves. Alicia: Isn't her boyfriend from Ireland her fiance? That's what I'm saying, they're huge potato heads. Hali: Yeah, and they fucking love potatoes. Yeah, that was offensive to Owen. The fuck. Alicia: I wanna hear what he has to say about that. Hali: Well, he doesn't have much to say. think he knows his Irish no filter is not best for Bravo reality TV or he'll be hated. Alicia: it's great. It's great for Bravo reality TV. It's not great for Lindsay. I love him. He's weird. I like it. Hali: Well, not if you want to be hated, though, that's the thing. But. So this this little I know I actually do like him, but Whitney finally makes mention of this nanny that you were not aware of the last episode that we recorded. Remember when I was like, no, no, no, she does have a nanny and I was actually waiting for this. And I'm like, finally you speak up because we can't let Lindsey run around here saying like. She's this single mom doing everything on her own. Like you're pushing it, honey. You're actually offending a lot of women that do not have anyone in their corner. Alicia: And and what did she say too? She said, Yeah, and I have a nanny and that gives me the opportunity to be able to work and provide for my child. You're not getting it, Lindsay. That's still privilege. But she's saying that to like make it sound better. And I'm like, Hali: I know. This is all like, I know. Alicia: my god, you don't even get that. That's like not and that's lovely, by the way. You're Hali: this entire episode, yeah. Alicia: lucky, you're so lucky that you should not be ashamed of that. You're but you like You can't make that the thing that makes it sound better. What are we doing? I know. Hali: And that makes you seem more privileged. Like people can afford a fucking nanny. Barely people can afford daycare. Like, and a nanny that like almost lives with you? Stop it. Alicia: And I don't I really and I'll just leave it at this, 'cause I could really go in, but also your your job is an influencer. That's your that's your career. Hali: Right. You don't really. Yeah. Alicia: And by the way, I'd kill to be able to make the money she does doing what she does, which is nothing. But Hali: Literally. Alicia: now you're offending the actual working moms. There are moms that are doing like three day shifts in the ER to put food Hali: Yeah. Alicia: on their table. Hali: Some working more than one job, like what the hell? Yeah. Alicia: Literally. And she's out here an influencer with the nanny making Hali: Yeah. Alicia: fun of Whitney for even bringing up the mum. You know what? We'll get into it. We can't we're really jumping a hunt. Hali: Right. And then also now knowing that baby daddy's a fucking doctor and he's in big pharma, he's making Alicia: Mm. Hali: fucking millions, probably. OK, so now you have Alicia: Dumb money. Hali: double, double huge incomes like pipe down. Alicia: yeah, yeah, that's a good point. That is a good point. You expect me to believe that Turner is not pe paying for this nanny? Of Hali: Yeah, exactly. Alicia: course Turner is helping pay for the nanny. Cause I'm sure that when l 'cause I'm sure Hali: Absolutely. He's going to pay for anything with his daughter. Alicia: when Lindsay doesn't use the nanny, Turner uses the nanny. 'Cause who in the right mind would go out of their way to get Hali: Exactly. Well, Alicia: two separate nannies. Hali: he may even use the nanny more than Lindsay because he probably works more and is out of the house more. Alicia: I would imagine as a doctor in big pharma he's put a purple. Hali: Yeah. Yep. Absolutely. So wild. Alicia: but either way, Danielle is genuinely shocked when she brings Hali: I know. Alicia: this up to Whitney because she's like, I can't believe that people are saying this about you. Hali: I Alicia: She's literally like, No, I did say that and Danielle was like, Mmm, I'm so happy I'm not public Hali: I'm Alicia: enemy number one right now. Hali: but I'm also I'm super proud of Whitney because she's not backing down and she's like I honestly thought she would like scurry away from this whole thing and be like, my God, I'm so sorry immediately. But like she's really Alicia: Mm-hmm. Hali: standing her ground in this and she's like, no, no, no, no. Here's another piece of evidence of like why none of this is like valid and like Lindsey needs to sit the fuck down. Alicia: She really held her own. She did good. She could she Hali: She did. Yeah. Alicia: d even when Kenny wasn't there to back her up. Hali: Absolutely. Alicia: okay. So now we're back in the cars. Woo! Back in the cars again. Yep. Hali: Yep, we're going to Apple picking. We're on our way. Alicia: Amanda's like, if this orchard is closer to the city than our Airbnb, I'm just gonna like Uber. Hali: I'm like, Alicia: She hates it there, but in her not defense, but I'm getting the vibe that she's just kinda like to these people, they're like younger, annoying sister. Like no one wants to deal with her. Hali: Mm hmm. 100%. Well, she's thinking about West. She wants to go back to the city. She wants to go back to that lifestyle. She doesn't want to deal with Kyle and she's not close with Alicia: But always. Hali: these people. Alicia: But but the thing is we saw it, and it's hard to remember because of the way that things changed, but we saw it for years on Summer House before the girls came in, Paige and all them, and she was only she was the only one that was in her twenties on the cast. And she was annoying to everybody. And Lindsay literally would screw with her all the time. And it was easy because she had no one besides Kyle who was too drunk to even be around half the time. Hali: Right, right. Alicia: But when the other girls came in, Amanda really got to flex those mean girl muscles, which I don't blame her 'cause I'd be fed up too at that point. Hali: Right, she finally felt like I'm on top here and I'm in charge. Yeah. Alicia: And she was. She really she had the ball for a little bit. For a few seasons, Amanda did. She was doing good. and Lindsay wasn't. So but the tables have turned. Hali: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. They sure have. And Georgina also speaks up in this car ride. I forget, what she was talking about. I think it was their comment about like, oh, when is like Kenny Gavin and Whitney coming or something to apple picking? And she was like, I don't even give a fuck or like something like that. Like, I don't give a shit. And it's like, Georgina, sit the fuck down. Like, shut up. Alicia: She really lost me with Hali: Yeah! Alicia: this episode. She gets so much worse. She's done, dude. She's done. She's fucking done. Hali: Oh, she's done. She's literally done. But Whitney also in their car makes a comment about Lindsay and she was like, everyone's scared of Lindsay. I'm scared of Lindsay. And I'm like, whoa, girl, like good for you for like speaking that out loud. And then we flip to Lindsay's car where Lindsay and I quote says she thinks I was intimidating before. I guess she hasn't met me today. Alicia: Yeah. When I saw that I was like, Whitney Whitney Hali: I know. Alicia: girl, you better say it with your frickin' chest because Lindsay is gonna comfort you. Hali: And it's almost like Georgina and Lindsey again are like really playing off each other and they're just like creating this like animosity that's like totally unnecessary. Like I was kind of annoyed with Lindsey. I'm like, can you just like chill the fuck out? Alicia: They did, yeah, it gets so much worse as we go on, especially Georgina. she pulls me off. I would say though, across the board, the entire cast, not just Amanda, because Amanda is like, you know, she's checked out. She's sick of Kyle, she's sick of this trip, she's sick of the charade that she's been putting on, she does not care. But the rest of the crew, too, is like Get me back to New York. This is a trip that production made us take. We don't care about apple picking. There's apple orchards in Brooklyn. Why are we here? It It's so cold Hali: Right. It's freezing. It's windy. Fuck. Yeah. Alicia: how cold was it? Well Hali: can't imagine that it was that cold and Connecticut is not that far from New York so I don't know why they were acting as if they were in like the fucking White Mountains in New Hampshire while it's in a blizzard. Like, can you guys fuck up? Like this is not that different from New York. I know. Alicia: Lindsay was literally like like and I was like she's like, I'm from Florida. I'm like, haven't you been living in New York for like two decades? Hali: So I hate when people make those comments. Yeah, it's like you've not been in that environment or that climate for like so long. Like you're not still accustomed to that. We change literally season to season and that's like what three, four months? Like you're now a New Yorker. Like what? Alicia: Literally for years. I'm like, what are we talking about? I was confused Hali: Ugh. Alicia: though. I know he was fucking with people, but g get when Gavin was like, Whatever you do, guys, don't pick the apples on the ground. And Lindsay was like, How do you know if they were on the ground or not? Aren't they picking them on trees? I'm so confused. Like, don't pick one off the ground. What are we talking about? Hali: Yeah, well, so I think I think it was the competition of finding the biggest apple in the piece of it that Gavin was trying to drive home was like you can't get the biggest one that's fallen on the ground because obviously the big ones are going to fall. You have to actually find one and pick it. That's how I took it. That's how I took it. Alicia: that makes so much more sense. Hali: Exactly. But I also didn't understand Lindsay's comment of how we're supposed to know if they're on the ground. And I'm like, what do you mean? Like if they're on the ground, they're on the ground. Yeah, they don't they don't levitate and go back on the branch. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Alicia: Would they would be on the ground? So, like if you look down, that's the ground. If you look up, that's probably the tree. What are we talking about? Hali: I don't know. That was weird. But even before they started picking, did you pick up on Lindsay's passive aggressive statements of like talking about like the apple cider, the hot apple cider and like the whatever gin apple cider they had. And they were like, yeah, we definitely need that. Like we're single moms and like, can't we have the cider while we pick the apples? And the guy was like, well, no, you need to like hold the bag in one hand and like, you have to pick the apple with the other hand. And she was like, no, no, no, us moms, us single moms, like we can multitask. Like we can do a lot of things. She was just Alicia: I miss that. Hali: throwing it out there and Whitney's just standing there like, is this real life? Is she really saying these things? yeah, she was going hand bone. She was fire cracking. Alicia: I need to go back and watch that because that's actually very interesting to me because she's a Hali: You really do. Yeah, it was mean. Alicia: dog with a bone. That's the thing. She's literally a bully. Hali: Cause like Whitney's like a meek little thing. Like I'm sorry, but she's brand new to New York. Like you had just eaten her alive for no reason. Like she really didn't, what she do that was so bad? Alicia: And the thing, and I just wanna remind us all that her bullshit started with Kenny. And now her and Kenny are best friends. And she's still Hali: I know. I know. Alicia: doing this to Whitney. And my only question is, for what? What the fuck did Whitney do? She's so sweet. Hali: Right. What's the end game here? Exactly this for freaking girl. my Alicia: so after they pick apples, they sit down to have the cider and chat. This is when Lindsay's like From Florida and runs inside to warm up. Right away, Georgina. Hali: But I think she used that as a cop out because I think she, unless this Alicia: well Hali: was a setup like, hey, Georgina, I need you to be my pit bull and I'm gonna go run off to the car. Because that's when Georgina's piped up. Alicia: I mean it was definitely a setup on some level, whether Lindsay set it up, production set it up, Hali: Yeah. Yeah. Alicia: and I believe that Lindsay was seriously cold. It was probably like so easy for her to be like, I'm leaving, Georgina. Do you got this scene? Are you gonna fucking kill her? 'Cause I'm tired. That's what I think. Hali: Right. Right. Which is crazy, because Yvonne must have been like, what the hell is going on here? Like, why is this happening? Because Georgina starts off and she goes nuts for no reason. Alicia: yeah, Georgina goes off talking about the single mom issue. She's like freaking out. Kenny Hali: Yeah Alicia: Kenny made me laugh though. He's like, I don't know what to tell you. Lindsay wakes up every day and she chooses violence. Hali: Yeah, I I was like, well, that's a little extreme, like using the Mylands word, like, whoa. Alicia: yeah, well don't talk about extremes with this one because Georgina did not hold her own. She clearly didn't have a point to make. The only thing that came out Hali: We didn't! Alicia: of her mouth she didn't she so much did not have a point that her big jab was you guys hate women. Hali: As a couple, you guys hate women. Like, what does that mean? I was really trying to think about that and I'm like, where is the evidence of that? Like, I don't get it. Alicia: You know that Kenny and Whitney don't hate women and that's not what they meant and that's what you come up with. Hali: Exactly. But even like Kenny Alicia: Anyways, yes. Hali: was like the smartest one in that conversation. Like she was, he was literally like, but she said, I'm getting the room because I'm a single mom. So what do you mean Georgina? She wasn't using the single mom card and Georgina's like, well, you can't do that because you hate women. Like what? Alicia: And then storms off. Hali: Yeah. Alicia: And then goes to Lindsay acting like she really just did this big cool thing. I'm like, you just embarrass yourself on national television. That's what you did. Hali: I know. And then I was kind of annoyed that Lexi and Andrea got up and were like, I think we're rolling with Lindsay and Georgina. And it's like, OK, but like now you're like adding on to the pile of like nothingness for Whitney. And like, that's not very nice. Like that makes someone feel really shitty. And I'm sure they edit Alicia: So bad. Hali: it to make it seem like it was that close. But they also walked up the hill together, Georgina, Andrea and Lexi. So was like, I don't know. That was a was that was a strike against Andrea for me. Yeah. Alicia: Yeah, and Lexi is so Hali: flexes. Alicia: far up Lindsay's ass, it's not even funny. What does she think Lindsay's gonna what does she think she's gonna get from Lindsay? Lindsay's never gonna accept her. Lindsay's gonna walk all over her. The Hali: my God, I think she's terrified. What does she think she's going to get from Lindsay? Lindsay's never going to accept it. I hate to say this, but I wonder if it's Andrea being like, I'm really close to Lindsay and that's a really good friend of mine. So like, you don't mess with her. It's possible Alicia: It's possible. Hali: because that's what the only thing I could say. Alicia: I don't know. It's weird. She's weird. The whole thing's weird. I I I like Hali: Yeah. It is weird. Alicia: her, but to to be such like a lap dog to Lindsay Hali: And she's just got no substance. don't really... I know. I know. Yeah. She is. Alicia: We're too old. We're too old to be a sidekick ever. And she's a forever sidekick. so they they get back though and Hali: Wait, wait, wait, before we get back, you're missing a huge piece that was, I feel like rushed over even in the show that Alicia: What? Hali: they get back to the car where Lindsey's waiting and Lindsey is on the phone with no one else but the milkman. Alicia: I don't even think I noticed that. Hali: Yeah, she was on the phone with the milkman and they were like having a conversation and then the cameras came up because they were walking back to the car to leave and he was like, all right, yeah, well maybe next weekend. And then Lindsay was like flustered because they came back and I don't think she was expecting it. And he was like, she was like, yeah, I can't talk right now. Like I gotta talk to you later. And he was like, all right, yeah, just call me or like text me or something. And it said like Frank, Lindsay's date. Alicia: My dog. I want Hali: Yeah. And then the other thing, sorry, what were you going to say? Alicia: Yeah, so I wonder if she was like, Okay, that was like a really bad scene for me and I just walked away, so how do I ensure that am in this scene still? I'm gonna call Frank. Hali: Maybe that's a that's a fair point. Yeah. No, it was just so random. Alicia: Right? She just Well that's what I'm saying. She doesn't give a fuck about Frank. She doesn't care about Frank. She she she Hali: I know and right they went on what one date. Alicia: she said after date one she wasn't into Frank. And now all of a sudden you're calling Frank because you Hali: Right. Alicia: 'cause you can't don't want to defend yourself. You know Hali: I know. Alicia: that you know that's gonna make it on camera. It's not anyone. It's Frank, the milkman. Right? Hali: right. It's fucking weird. It's really fucking. And then this is not related, but they all show they also show Kyle before they actually leave the apple orchard. And he's taking a piss and he's going wild and he's such a mess. And he's like, the wind is blowing. It's blowing the wrong way. Aka his piss was just blowing back on him. And I'm like, they are so bad. Like they want to like. push him so far down and like he looks so bad in the show. I'd be pissed if I was him. It literally. Alicia: Dude, I know. He looks crazy. He's crazy. we're back at the house and Hali: Yep. Alicia: Amanda goes up to Whitney and is like, Hey, so the talk of the house is that you hate woman? Hali: Yeah, she's... That annoyed me. Alicia: And wait, but then but then right after she says that, Lindsay walks in and Amanda's like, Alright, I'm gonna get out of here. Hali: No, no, no, it was it was the opposite. Lindsay, I mean, Amanda was filling Lindsay in on this is what happened after you walked away. Then during that conversation, Whitney and Kenny walk into the kitchen and it's like super awkward. And I felt so bad Alicia: my god. I didn't know that. Hali: for her again, I'm like, can you guys just stop? Alicia: I mean, the argument was the worst thing I've ever watched. Five minutes of my life gone. It was literally Lindsay saying, I'm not using the card, and then saying I can use the card whenever I want. Kenny's making so much sense. He's like, Lindsay, Hali: He is. Alicia: what? And she's not making any sense. And like Hali: None at all. Alicia: she's one of those people that it's not even worth to argue with because when they're wrong, they'll never admit. But even when you know, and I think Hali: 8th. Alicia: I find that to actually be the most immature thing in a person and it Hali: Yeah, because Alicia: really drives me crazy. Hali: they're going to go on and on and on and then they know they're not even going to get to the end result that like they're trying to get to because it can't compute that way. But like they're never going to give up. Alicia: And but she knows she's wrong. Hali: Yeah. Alicia: But you would rather look dumb than say sorry. Hali: Yeah, she's yeah. Alicia: Crazy. Hali: Yeah, that's a flaw for sure. And it's not a good look for Gemma to learn. Alicia: Right, right. but the Hali: then Gavin, the leprechaun comes back. Alicia: my god, are we gonna talk about their fight? I mean their discussion. Hali: Well, that's after that. but I'm talking about like because I actually just wrote in my note like notes like while they were cooking in the kitchen that it was the ongoing drama and it was so friggin boring dot dot dot. And then Gavin strikes again because they were like getting to a point where it seemed like things were going to be like put to bed. And then Gavin's like, well, Lindsay, you did nothing wrong here. And like, you know, you said pick a rum. And then Kenny's like, are you out of your mind? Are you done? Can you stop stirring the pot? And he's like, what, what, what, what? Alicia: You're making things so much worse. Hali: Yeah. And he's just being Alicia: Yeah. Hali: the leprechaun that he is. Alicia: Yeah, and I I think that's when Lexi was like, Well, what about the nanny comment? Things are already resolved. Why are we doing this? Why are we worrying about this? It's crazy. It was Hali: I know, they love the drama. The Minions. Alicia: it was funny though watching Amanda, Danielle, and Owen doing the puzzles. Like Danielle, Hali: It was, yeah. Yeah. Alicia: I mean, Amanda's like hates her life. She's like, I can't believe I'm sitting here in a loser corner doing puzzles. She hated her life. Hali: I know, I know, I know. Alicia: It is a mutually beneficial working relationship for her and Danielle though. Because Danielle's like I Hali: 100%. Alicia: can't believe I'm saying it. She's like the only non wackadoodle there right now. Hali: Well, I know they got really close during this whole thing. And I also think because Kyle was in the kitchen beatboxing with Kenny, which I actually thought was hilarious when he was like doing his DJ thing with Amanda's ear muffs. And like he was like, I need more bass in phone. So I'm like, I can't. Alicia: He's an idiot. you know, Lindsay did go to threads like a few days ago and was like Hali: Yeah. Alicia: brought up the Whitney mom card thing again. And it's like but Hali: That's what I'm saying, she's crashing out. She's out of her mind. Alicia: the reunion is airing in two like a week. Do you think Bravo wants us to know that you're still fighting with these people and had no resolution before it even is on? Hali: know why does she keep doing that? She's and she's like I said to this before on an episode she's like commenting on like Bravo like accounts like like like Des Moines like things like that or like Alicia: I know. I know here. Yeah, I know. Hali: Bravo Betches and stuff like that it's like what are you doing what are you doing? I Alicia: She's crashing out, dude. Hali: thought she was busy. Alicia: Me too. Me too. so Hali: She's looking so unbusy. Alicia: Kyle has a giant pepper shaker. Hali: Kyle as a what? and he Alicia: It's like a pepper shaker. Hali: he was. Yes, that's so funny. I remember that he was doing it over the fucking French bread for Owen and Owen's looking at him like this guy's not well. Alicia: He's insane. I just had to say that. There's nothing else I had to add to that scene. Hali: you Alicia: okay, Gavin and Kenny go outside to talk. Hali: Yes. Alicia: Kenny's like, Why are you telling people that I don't like dogs and my relationship is boring? And you Hali: don't think is this real. Alicia: have animosity towards Whitney and this and that. And Gavin was like well, I guess when you put things in that order and say it like that. that that could be hurtful and I apologize. Hali: I know. Alicia: starts crying. Although he Hali: Yeah, that was interesting. Alicia: although he did say in the confessional, he was like, you know, I know that Whitney and Kenny can go the distance, but he needs to stop being so defensive. What do those two things have to do with each other? Hali: Yeah, I don't. I don't understand. Yeah, no, he's all over the map. I feel like something's going on with Gavin's personal life because I feel like people that start like picking at people in their relationships and like stirring the pot, it's because they're trying to distract themselves from something else that's going Alicia: I Hali: on with them. Alicia: agreed. I mean, I think he's also just going through the turmoil of losing your best friend. I mean, they were long distance before Kenny and Whitney, so Hali: Right, right, right. Alicia: he got one you know, he got the best of both worlds. And Gavin Hali: Yep, then he said that it was a decade. Alicia: So I mean at the end of the day, I do think that yeah, this is just a classic case of I miss my best friend. And he was crying and stuff. I it was Hali: Yeah, yeah, And Kenny was cold. He didn't have much emotion while he was crying, which I was like, that's weird. Alicia: Yeah, just another thing of Kenny trying to seem like he's just has everything together and all his shit. okay. So we Hali: Yeah, weird. Alicia: do we have Kyle setting up his DJ gear in the dining room, aka a function hall, aka the biggest room I've ever seen. And why is it so shitty? It's just a giant function hall. The biggest waste of space, literally. Hali: Biggest waste of space. Yeah. Yeah. But Kyle's dream for a friends giving dinner to have that space for his DJ stuff. Alicia: I know. he was so happy. He was so happy. so we have we finally had the highly anticipated Friendsgiving dinner, and we really are just seeing everybody kind of scarring to tie up the loose ends with their storylines and arguments, which felt so overproduced and fucking boring. I was like, You guys Hali: I know. Alicia: are just doing this because that's what you've been asked to do, is to close it up. Hali: Yeah. Right. And Danielle starts it off with saying like, what, did she even start it? She said something about like, you guys fixed your thing. I thought this was like me and Lindsay were going to get on a better page. Alicia: She pretty much just says like, I thought we were moving forward. What's the problem here? And Lindsay does say, like, Hali: Yeah. And Lindsay's face, though, before she says something looks like daggers coming from her eyes. But Alicia: She hates her. Hali: but then the way she responds is actually pretty positive. Alicia: yeah, I really had fun giggling with you and Owen last night. Hali: Yeah. Alicia: It's good to see you so happy. I think she Yeah. Hali: Right. And I'm like, you're trying to change things here, make yourself look a little better after all the bullshit you've just been doing this entire two past episodes. Alicia: No, I think that's literally exactly it. It hit her in that moment. Like, and I do think off camera, she is very different. And I believe that the night before she was having a great time with Owen and Danielle. And she was drunk, having a great time. Hali: And she was drunk at that fire. Yeah. Yep. Alicia: okay, wait, I have to bring this up. I'm dying to know what you think about this. One of the scenes, who was it? okay, so one of so now they're all dancing, having fun. Obviously, Amanda, first opportunity is like I'm outta here. Hali: See, that was so annoying. It's like all your friends are away together on this show. You can't stay for one second. Like I understand you hate Kyle, but like this is just like I would divorce you too if I was Kyle. That's you're miserable. Fucking miserable. Alicia: She's miserable. She's miserable. What I was gonna say though is everyone's dancing. Did you see Kenny and Georgina? He Hali: No? Alicia: like picked her up and spun her around. Whitney was nowhere in sight. It was Hali: Jesus, Jesus. Alicia: literally where's Whitney? Hali: I gotta look at that then. Yeah, that's weird. Huh. Alicia: I've I'll Yeah, it's bad. It's like and I could not see Whitney in that shot. it was awkward. Yeah, it was he just spun her right around. She's like, ha ha ha I was like, Hali: Yeah, I didn't either. Yeah, I Lindsay was dancing. Interesting. Alicia: my god. I mean obviously there's nothing behind it, but you just never know with these men. These Bravo men. You never know. Hali: You don't. Well, well, there was that comment that Lindsay made about like, do you like dark meat? And then Kenny took that in like such an Alicia: yeah. Hali: opposite direction of being like, my girlfriend's over there, like, relax, like, chill out. And that's like, dude, shut up. Alicia: Yeah, it's I mean it was kinda funny, but not 'cause it's him. Hali: Exactly. Alicia: and that's pretty much it. Well, with that. Hali: Yeah. Yeah. Alicia: Next day everyone wakes up, they're like, we gotta pack, we gotta go home. Amanda's like lingering, trying to like escape without Kyle. Did are you guys not Hali: Yeah, I know. But then they do. Alicia: Ubering together? And she's like, Well, you know, it would be out of my Uber's way to go to your apartment. Hali: I know she was like, I'm gonna go to my place. I gotta go back to my place. It's like, honey. And he's Alicia: Yeah. Hali: emotional and she's got no emotion, per usual. Alicia: And she's just avoiding him. He's like running after her. Hali: Yeah. Alicia: And then we cut fast forward to April 9th post Westgate. Okay, we're in Kyle's apartment. Kyle's looking great as usual. I have a question. During the beginning of this conversation, Amanda made like a comment about Ryder. Was it Ryder? Kyle's dog biting her. And I'm like, she was worried. Hali: I didn't even hear that. I missed that. Alicia: And Kyle Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, Didn't you raise this dog? Hali: No kidding. Alicia: And Kyle was like, she even does it to me sometimes And that's the girl by the way. No, Reese's the girl, Ryder's Hali: maybe I do remember that. Yeah. Alicia: the boy, yeah. Hali: Yeah. OK. Well, I mean, it Alicia: Yeah, that's what they said on that's how I know. Hali: probably just shows that you shouldn't be splitting up two dogs that literally were raised together and like confusing them. Alicia: Yeah, I agree. The whole thing's Hali: Not good. Alicia: weird. Amanda does say that she's so grateful that her and Kyle could both post their like divorce statement online together over FaceTime in a weird sick way, she said. Hali: But she says this in response to Kyle calling her out initially being like, literally bold-faced lied to me about West. And then she somehow spins it to, well, we got to post together. Alicia: Wha did they honestly, do we think they needed a statement? Hali: No. Alicia: Kyle was like, I'm happy that we did it because we owe it to our friends, family, and dare I say fans, to be honest with them. It's like, Hali: Yeah. Right. Alicia: you owe it to your family, honey. You don't owe it to no one else. Hali: Exactly, exactly. Yeah, you don't need to post nothing. And then also Amanda's comment about and this was so like, can't fucking stand her. She's like, well, it seems like, you know, this whole thing and my whole my stuff is like really helping lover boy. It's like, honey, no, no, no, no, no. It's not just because everyone hates you that they're going to lover boy. They actually feel poorly for Kyle. Like that people feel bad. And I've actually seen people reposting this and talking about this scene and saying, Amanda, you're dead wrong. That's not why we did it. We did it because we wanted to help out Kyle. It's not because we have that much energy for you. We don't care about you. Alicia: Right. Well, I think it's a fair mix. I mean Hali: I don't think so. Alicia: I felt okay, so I did feel bad to kind of like stay with that theme. One of the th things she said around that time too was that she's literally scared to leave her apartment 'cause she thinks someone's gonna scream in her face. Hali: Yeah, that was sad. Yeah. Alicia: and she's like bringing up like I don't get why it's such a big deal because I wasn't in a relationship. I'm like d w who's your PR person? Stop saying that. Hali: I don't get that. Yeah, I'm like, you actually speak that out loud again? Like what's happening? But also, I'm sorry. Yes, it sucks to be scared to leave your house and people are gonna scream in your face, but it also sucks to make decisions like that. Because you didn't just fuck Alicia: But no. Hali: over your husband, you fucked over your best friend. People should be screaming Alicia: Right. Hali: at you, I'm sorry, because you didn't get it in preschool to be a good friend. Alicia: Nah, not for n I mean, not people you don't know on the side of the road in New York. It's fucking scary. You can't we can't promote that. That's wicked fucked up. Leave don't go Hali: It is, but also you should have thought about this. You're on reality TV, you're out there, you've been posting things, you want to be in the spotlight. Alicia: You think if someone cheats they sh they should be harassed by strangers at outside their building? Hali: No, no, no, no. But in this type of situation, when you're on reality TV, you know people are following you. You make this business with Loverboy. You're putting Alicia: Right. Hali: yourself out there. That's what's going to come. So that's why those people be, they're very, very careful about their personal life and the decisions that they make. You want to be careless and go with Fuckboy West. Sorry, but those are the consequences that unfortunately happen. Don't think it's right, but that's what you signed up for. I'm sorry. Alicia: But you but you know. And and the thing is too, she's like, I don't get why it's such a big deal. And the truth is, to kind of both of our points, it's not a big deal. However, like people are killing people out there, right? People are dying. It's not a big deal. However, on these shows, you know that with Bravo specifically, the this fan base creates a very, very strong parasocial relationships with the people on these shows. And guess what? It is a big deal to those people. It's a big deal. It's a huge deal. More bigger than even you think. So yeah. Scary. she asks Hali: Absolutely. Yeah. Life changing for these people. Yeah. Yep. Very scary. But go ahead. Alicia: go ahead. She asks Kyle if he wants to grab dinner with her, Wes and Sally. Hali: Yes, yes, yes, this was so wild to me. was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Was Sally thing at that time in April? Alicia: Yeah. So that's around watch what happens. Watch what happens happened. Hali: And I thought that was fucked up. Don't say that. And even Kyle looks Alicia: I know. Hali: surprised that she said that. Alicia: Yeah, well, yeah, Kyle was like, Are you trying to take the heat off you right now? It's weird. Hali: Exactly and Kyle's been nothing but nice like why are you doing this to him? Like I don't get it. Alicia: Kyle's going to snap soon. We're gonna get the Hali: I hope he does. Alicia: real truth. Just let it lay for a few more weeks and it's gonna we're gonna get it. The truth always comes out. It does. It really does. Hali: I hope so. really hope so. It's time. It's fucking time. Alicia: and then like I hate when shows do this. Then at the very end we have like all the couples being like, We're pregnant. Hali: Right. Right. Alicia: I'm d no, I don't want to see them next season. If you're pregnant, you're done. Because I I've been Hali: No I don't. Alicia: seeing enough of that with the valley. I don't want to see another pregnant person on Bravo ever again. I'm not kidding. Hali: So the only part that I really loved about that was when they showed Lindsay's commentary after and she said, what is Whitney going to do? We have three women pregnant. I'm like, you can't stop. You literally can't stop. Yeah. I'm like, that's so Alicia: I didn't get that part either. Lindsay's Hali: mean. Alicia: do Lindsay's a mess and Hali: I know. And what did Danielle have? Does she have a boy? Alicia: I'd think so. Hali: So we have two boys and a girl, because Yvonne and Nick are having a boy. Yeah. Alicia: I think so, yeah. Hali: Good for them though, I'm happy for them. That's awesome. But the biggest part of this end, which I'm sure you also felt pretty floored by this, and I'd be surprised if you were not, but Georgina lets us in a little bit more with her situation and starts hers Alicia: Yeah. Hali: by saying, I'm ready to date because... She has been putting a lot of energy into trying to make her ex or are they even divorced? Alicia: I don't know. Hali: Whatever marriage work or fix it. Alicia: Right. I know. Hali: So now this ties back into okay, now it makes sense that you're going to your ex whatever Alicia: Amen. Hali: is house to put your kids to bed and it's not fully because you have to it's fully because you want to be present there and work on this possible getting things back where they need to be with this man who in the beginning you said literally left you while you were pregnant with two kids. Alicia: Yeah, and very convenient that you're just not bringing up that storyline. So that's sneaky. You're supposed to tell us everything that's going on while you're filming. So I don't like that. man. Hali: Yeah. Yeah, that was really sketchy. Alicia: Man, man. I'm happy it's over. I'm happy it's over. I'm ready to switch toes. I'm ready to switch. I'm done. With Summer House. Hali: I am too. Yeah, no, I really am. Yeah, because we're going to go. We're going to go on to OC next and then but I'm really excited for this reunion because Amanda is going to get roasted again and I can't wait and I hope she doesn't take Xanax again. Alicia: No, she definitely didn't. You can tell she looks normal ish. I know. We saw there's clips. Yeah. Yeah, we all have. Hali: No, at the reunion. you saw her. I haven't I haven't watched any. Alicia: it's the reunion looks so boring. But she looks normal. Hali: So boring, really? Alicia: Yeah, there's trailers out. Go look. Hali: I got a yeah, no, because I heard that she's getting roasted again. So I can't imagine I couldn't imagine that it would be boring. So wow. Okay, that's. Yeah. Alicia: Yeah, go look. If that sounds interesting to you, the reason nothing's interesting is because we already know where everything is right now. It's not good. It's like her talking Hali: Right. And she's not saying anything now. Yeah. Alicia: about like Sally. I don't give a shit. Give me something new or give me nothing at all. Sorry. We'll see though. Who knows? Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe. Hali: Yeah. Yeah, that's that's very, true. Yeah, maybe maybe they'll surprise us and put scenes in that we're like, whoa, what the book? But yeah, no, I'm ready for this show to be over. And then they're also but we're not getting rid of summer house for long because they already started filming. Alicia: we'll be back with Summer House, but I'm done talking about it for until the summer's over. Hali: Yeah. Right. But now Amanda and Wes are getting more momentum on social media. They're both posting a lot and I'm like, it's too soon. Alicia: I agree. We'll see where the Hali: gotta stop. Alicia: cards fall with that one. Breakup's gotta happen soon, dude. Hali: Yeah, absolutely. it's happening. It's definitely going to happen. And then so now we're going to switch gears to for next episode to Real Housewives of OC. no, no, no, we're going to do the reunion. Right, right, right, right. Alicia: We're gonna do the reunion. And then we can do probably O say. Hali: OK, and then maybe some next gen in there. If we have time, yeah. All right. All right, guys, well, Alicia: Yeah. Okay. All right. Hali: thanks for hanging out with us. We will see you on the next episode. Bye. Alicia: Mm bye.