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Hour Two | More Bad News in New Orleans: Saints & Kellen Moore · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester.
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  Speaker 2: And Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Where the plays get broken down and science gets denied.
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  Speaker 4: Dude, they said I gotta come off the bench.
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  Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench, live from the Raising
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  Speaker 1: Cane Studio.
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  Speaker 5: All right, welcome back in OTB hour number two.
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  Speaker 4: Talking LSU, Kentucky here. Eventually, we'll get to the Saints
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  Speaker 4: and Vikings. Boy, oh, boy. That one wasn't done. Not
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  Speaker 4: the Saints.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 4: Not the Saints. Not the Saints at all. It's probably
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  Speaker 4: a road game, though. No, it's the third straight home,
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  Speaker 4: I believe.
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  Speaker 6: They came out hot, though, right?
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  Speaker 4: That's going to be an 830, probably. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: You hear Kellen Moore just like, gee, guys, we really
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  Speaker 3: didn't get that one done, huh?
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  Speaker 2: We really got to get it together.
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  Speaker 4: I pass that point. I like that, though. A lot
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  Speaker 4: of good tries out there, though.
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  Speaker 2: We just got to look at the tape and get better.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Can't stand it.
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  Speaker 4: We got to look at the tape. That's so accurate.
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  Speaker 4: There's really not a lot I can say. I haven't
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  Speaker 4: seen the tape. That's what you say.
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  Speaker 7: I know.
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  Speaker 4: I did say that. Because it is true. It is true.
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  Speaker 3: I think you got Lane like, okay, but Boosie, he's
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  Speaker 3: going to walk the Tiger walk. Dustin Poirier, he's pretty sick.
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  Speaker 4: Well, home games aren't a problem.
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  Speaker 3: True.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe he needs to take them on the road.
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  Speaker 4: That's what I was about to say. That's what I
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  Speaker 4: was about to say. I don't know that it's a
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  Speaker 4: home or an away thing. It's been multiple coaching staffs,
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  Speaker 4: but that That'll waste that. I said it earlier. It's staggering.
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  Speaker 4: When I see that, it makes me just angry. Because
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  Speaker 4: we did look it up. So we didn't give ourselves like,
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  Speaker 4: we had five road losses in our four years. But
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  Speaker 4: they lost six in a row. That's not LSU. If
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  Speaker 4: you want to get to a point where you were
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  Speaker 4: talked about with, like, Georgia and teams like that. Like,
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  Speaker 4: you can't lose six games in a row in a row.
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 4: I don't care who the coach is before. I don't
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  Speaker 4: care what the roster was. Like, then, now, past, present, future. Like,
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  Speaker 4: it kind of embarrassed me. I'm going to be honest
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  Speaker 4: with you. When I saw it, I'm like, damn, that's true.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sitting there thinking, like, I've had six plane rides
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  Speaker 4: where it's been silent as hell going back to Baton Rouge.
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  Speaker 5: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 4: It embarrassed me. Like, I'm like, that's not LSU football.
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  Speaker 3: Another fun stat for you. Shane Beamer has more top
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  Speaker 3: 25 road wins in his career than Lane Kiffin. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That's usually the only win Shane has. That's fair.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Lane's 14 and 18 on the road in the SEC.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. All right, great.
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  Speaker 8: So, I was watching Saturday, watching all the games. Enjoying
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  Speaker 8: my Saturday, my college football, getting ready for the LSU
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  Speaker 8: game in the evening, watching football.
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  Speaker 4: Excited. And I.
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  Speaker 8: Just kept watching these different games. I was watching Texas play.
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  Speaker 8: I was just clicking through. And I look around the league,
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  Speaker 8: and I just see penalties. I see missed assignments. I
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  Speaker 8: see incomplete passes. Just real bad football. just being played
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  Speaker 8: all over the country. And I'm like, and I got
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  Speaker 8: me thinking about like this NIL transfer world transfer, happy,
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  Speaker 8: every roster turnover so much, every single, every single year.
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  Speaker 8: And it's been annoying and it's not college football. And
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  Speaker 8: this is, this is going to be a little bit
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  Speaker 8: of yelling at the clouds a little bit. And like
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  Speaker 8: we've Here on the show, we're annoyed at it, but
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  Speaker 8: it's the state of the world. It's the state of
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  Speaker 8: college football. But we've always said, like, something's got to change.
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  Speaker 8: People get to transfer every single year. There is complete
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  Speaker 8: roster toner. It's harder to coach now than it ever
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  Speaker 8: has been in college athletics because you never know what
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  Speaker 8: your roster is going to be the following year.
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  Speaker 6: But you couldn't really yell too loud because of why.
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  Speaker 8: Because the product on the field was better than it
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  Speaker 8: ever had been. The product every weekend that we were
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  Speaker 8: getting in college football was still awesome. Everybody was still watching. Like, what's, like,
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  Speaker 8: this is great football. So, like, how can you really complain?
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  Speaker 8: The product on the field this year kind of stinks. Like,
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  Speaker 8: it's bad football being played across the country. Now, there's
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  Speaker 8: good games. So, there's teams that play well. Georgia looked
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  Speaker 8: really good. There's teams that have played well, but we're
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  Speaker 8: six weeks into this thing, and there is still sloppy play.
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  Speaker 8: It looks like a country full of teams still trying
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  Speaker 8: to figure out how to play with each other and
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  Speaker 8: still trying to figure out what the scheme is and
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  Speaker 8: still trying to figure out what the guy next to
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  Speaker 8: them is doing and still trying to learn all these
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  Speaker 8: different things about their team.
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  Speaker 6: It looks like the product on the field is nowhere
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  Speaker 6: near better. They don't know each other. Everybody's a first-year player.
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  Speaker 6: They don't know each other.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 8: We have 40 transfers on a roster. It's not parody.
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  Speaker 8: It is parody because every team looks.
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  Speaker 4: Not very good. I think there's certainly something to that,
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  Speaker 4: for sure. And I do feel like and this is
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  Speaker 4: a perfect year to kind of use this as an example,
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  Speaker 4: the NFL this year, like, we don't know. We don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Every single Sunday. Like, we just, like, the Falcons for
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  Speaker 4: two straight weeks look like world beaters. And then last
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  Speaker 4: night they lose to Tyler Huntley.
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  Speaker 6: After having a double-digit lead in that game?
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  Speaker 4: You know, they lose a game. I could go seven
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  Speaker 4: different scores in the NFL. Well, as the college game
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  Speaker 4: gets closer to the NFL– which it is, closest it's
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  Speaker 4: ever been before, I think some of that plays into
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  Speaker 4: it as well. There's going to be teams that are
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  Speaker 4: a little bit closer than they've ever been before. You're
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  Speaker 4: going to have a little bit more parity. You're going
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  Speaker 4: to have– now I'm not saying it's well-oiled, like you're saying.
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  Speaker 4: I get what you're saying. Yeah. But there is going
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  Speaker 4: to be more parity. There is going to be times
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  Speaker 4: where now the ones– I.
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  Speaker 8: Just feel like the great teams of 10 years ago
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  Speaker 8: would roll everybody right now.
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  Speaker 4: Roll them. You're probably right. But the challenge for any
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  Speaker 4: school wanting to be in Tier 1, because there's still
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  Speaker 4: some that do it. There's still some that do it.
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  Speaker 4: I think Georgia's the best example of it. Ohio State,
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  Speaker 4: to some extent, probably Georgia, Ohio State, and I don't
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  Speaker 4: know who else you want to throw into that category,
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  Speaker 4: but that's kind of my point. Can you do that? Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: There's a lot of parody right now, and that's what
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  Speaker 8: we want, right? But it's not parody because everybody's better.
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  Speaker 8: I think it's parody because everybody's worse. So the excuse
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  Speaker 8: of all this craziness that we have to suffer through,
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  Speaker 8: like in the offseason, like all the transfers, all that crazy,
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  Speaker 8: like the excuse of, well, the product on the field
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  Speaker 8: is still better.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that excuse is gone. What was the thing, the
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  Speaker 4: most egregious thing on Saturday LSU's game? It could be
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  Speaker 4: a moment. It could be a play. It could be
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  Speaker 4: a situation. All of it was so bad, but.
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  Speaker 3: I think that not capitalizing off of all of the
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  Speaker 3: mistakes that Kentucky made at the end was a bit,
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  Speaker 3: like it was crazy because, okay, sure, we can say,
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  Speaker 3: I will never be the person that blames the refs
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  Speaker 3: for a loss ever.
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  Speaker 2: We can say that the refs were bad.
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  Speaker 4: They were.
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  Speaker 2: Objectively, they were bad.
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  Speaker 4: They were bad. There's no way Kentucky can get two penalties.
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  Speaker 4: The two penalties they got were clear penalties. You had
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  Speaker 4: to call them. They didn't play clean. And then the
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  Speaker 4: touchdown before the half, the false start, all of that. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm with you. You still should have won.
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  Speaker 3: Fourth and one was, like, super egregious, and people are
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  Speaker 3: going to point to that. But, like, Kentucky gave you
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  Speaker 3: plenty of opportunities to put them away, and you did not. Like,
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  Speaker 3: you should have dominated them, and you didn't. Like, if
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  Speaker 3: you were playing clean, sound football, that would have been
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  Speaker 3: a completely different game.
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  Speaker 4: Yep.
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  Speaker 6: This is where I knew we were in trouble. I
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  Speaker 6: was listening to you two, you and Chris, on the
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  Speaker 6: way home from St. Francisville. And, you know, you give
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  Speaker 6: up the big run. They get a touchdown. Yeah, that sucks.
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  Speaker 4: You immediately answer with a touchdown to your end.
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  Speaker 3: Great.
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  Speaker 6: You're now back up 10-7. You force Kentucky to punt.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm thinking, okay, grab momentum again, make it 17-7.
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  Speaker 6: That long touchdown run never happened. You're up 14 points.
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  Speaker 6: And they scored on the punt return. And they made
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  Speaker 6: it 14-10. And then, boom, they had all the momentum
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  Speaker 6: right back that you had just grabbed. When I had that,
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  Speaker 6: I looked at Victoria and I was like, LSU's in
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  Speaker 6: trouble in this game. Kentucky really came to play, and
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  Speaker 6: you did not. I mean, you really never grabbed the
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  Speaker 6: momentum back from that moment until you took the lead late,
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  Speaker 6: and then you screwed it at the end anyways.
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  Speaker 4: The punt return, and look, they had a block in
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  Speaker 4: the back. They didn't call it. Look, LSU's not going
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  Speaker 4: to get a 50-50 call, y'all. I hate to tell you,
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  Speaker 4: they're not getting one this year, and I don't know
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  Speaker 4: how long it's going to last. They ain't getting one
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  Speaker 4: this year. I can promise you.
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  Speaker 2: Sankey made the call.
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  Speaker 4: I think it was Dylan Carpenter. I think they got
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  Speaker 4: blocked in the back. The punter got hooked.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The guy had his arm and hooked him. You're not
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  Speaker 4: getting it.
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  Speaker 2: Prince Will was getting held all night.
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  Speaker 4: Our deep side did block our own guy for sure. Well,
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  Speaker 4: that's fine. But he also, like, make the tackle. Make
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  Speaker 4: the tackle. He had four guys that should have made
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  Speaker 4: the tackle. Right? So, like, it's hard for me to
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  Speaker 4: complain about the block in the back, which it was.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, make the flipping tackle. You missed the tackle
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  Speaker 4: right when he caught the ball.
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  Speaker 6: You missed the tackle. He spins out if it goes
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  Speaker 6: down the sidelines. That should have been a four-yard gain.
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  Speaker 3: I will say, like, CJ was running all over you
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  Speaker 3: at first, but I do think that after maybe halftime,
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  Speaker 3: you made some adjustments that you were.
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  Speaker 4: They scored what? I know there's a lot of hate.
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  Speaker 4: Not hate. There's a lot of, like, people talking about, like,
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  Speaker 4: Baker right now.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: They scored six in the second half. Yeah. And then
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  Speaker 4: over time.
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  Speaker 8: And, like, offensively, let's talk about that. Like, again, took
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  Speaker 8: two trick plays to score touchdowns.
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  Speaker 7: Y'all.
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  Speaker 4: I was listening to some of the postgame because Chris
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  Speaker 4: was listening to it next to me. Haney was saying
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  Speaker 4: some wild stuff, too, about Blake Baker. Yeah, like worst
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  Speaker 4: called defensive game he's ever seen or something. I'll have
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  Speaker 4: to get the quote. I don't want to misquote him.
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  Speaker 6: You've been great under Baker second half all year. My
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  Speaker 6: bigger concern with that side of the ball is I
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  Speaker 6: feel like outside of the Clemson game, you haven't looked
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  Speaker 6: prepared to start a game. A & M, you were great.
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  Speaker 6: Marcel helped you out a lot in that, too, because
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  Speaker 6: he's atrocious. 17-0 hole against Ole Miss.
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  Speaker 4: I get it.
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  Speaker 6: Offense put you in some bad spots. You struggled against
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  Speaker 6: Louisiana Tech.
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  Speaker 4: That was offense, too. But, like, you were awesome in
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  Speaker 4: the third quarter.
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  Speaker 6: But, like, I feel like you've struggled in the first
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  Speaker 6: half in your big games a lot. Down the stretch,
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  Speaker 6: you've been great.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's fair. I'm still going to say the most
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  Speaker 4: egregious thing for me is the fourth.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I can't. and egregious, like regretful. Yes. Yes. No, it's, it's,
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  Speaker 4: it's egregious. And maybe it's because it's the one skill
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  Speaker 4: that I had, but I, that is, that is such
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  Speaker 4: a mindset play. And as a player, you've got to
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  Speaker 4: give your coach the ultimate confidence and you doing it.
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  Speaker 4: And then as a coach, you got to have confidence
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  Speaker 4: in your players. How many times have we said, that
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  Speaker 4: we knew in the Florida game or any game that year, hell,
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  Speaker 4: it's not just that one. That's the one that gets highlighted.
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  Speaker 4: If it was fourth and one, we didn't even have
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  Speaker 4: to look over there. We knew what it was. We
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  Speaker 4: knew who was in the game and we knew what
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  Speaker 4: play it was going to be because they trusted us
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  Speaker 4: and we trusted them. And that has to be everybody
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  Speaker 4: moving in the same direction. Like it's not even, and
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  Speaker 4: the last thing that I wanted to do as a
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  Speaker 4: player that was going to get the ball was If
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  Speaker 4: my head coach is putting that faith in me, the
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  Speaker 4: last person I want to let down on the field
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  Speaker 4: is that head coach. He's thinking, I've got a guy
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  Speaker 4: that's going to go find a way with his offensive
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  Speaker 4: line and a fat ankle quarterback to get him the ball.
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  Speaker 4: He's going to go make the first down. It just
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  Speaker 4: didn't seem like they had that play in the playbook
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  Speaker 4: this week. I know.
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  Speaker 8: All they had was direct snap wedge.
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  Speaker 4: And that's frustrating as well. But like fourth and one
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  Speaker 4: is such a mindset mentality of, It's not even, and
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  Speaker 4: Lane's had that in his career. Charlie Weiss has called
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  Speaker 4: those plays in their career. I mean, they were the
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  Speaker 4: first one to start saying, here's where you go for it.
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  Speaker 4: Here's the book. Here's the analytics. And I just don't
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  Speaker 4: feel like right now they don't have the faith in
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  Speaker 4: that point.
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  Speaker 8: Maybe they just thought that the game plan they installed
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  Speaker 8: for this game, maybe they just got different looks than
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  Speaker 8: they were expecting. And like their pullers and their counters
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  Speaker 8: and stuff, they thought were going to hit a little
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  Speaker 8: bit more and they made a mistake with the game plan,
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  Speaker 8: but again, I absolutely egregious, regretful, whatever to me, the
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  Speaker 8: most egregious part of the game moment to the game
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  Speaker 8: that like really shined a light at a bigger problem
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  Speaker 8: was getting a delay game after a timeout.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Like to me, that's week six. It can't happen.
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  Speaker 4: It's week six.
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  Speaker 6: You got 80 coaches, literally 80 coaches.
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  Speaker 4: You can't.
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  Speaker 8: And it's a special play. Obviously, they're running an extra
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  Speaker 8: offensive lineman. They tried to. Everybody has to be on
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  Speaker 8: the same page. And so, to me, that was like
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  Speaker 8: a little glimpse of a bigger problem. Now, what that
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  Speaker 8: problem is, I don't know. Your head wasn't in the game.
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  Speaker 8: Not just the player. Coaches, like everybody. Something is off.
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  Speaker 8: To get a delay game after a timeout with 80
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  Speaker 8: freaking coaches.
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  Speaker 4: Is egregious. Beyond Egregious. Jake, you brought it up earlier.
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  Speaker 4: It pissed me. I was so pissed off. I get it.
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  Speaker 6: You brought it up earlier about if I'm the home team,
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  Speaker 6: maybe it's a little bit different. I'm glad you brought
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  Speaker 6: that up because I saw a lot of people say,
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah. We play for overtime. My personal opinion has
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  Speaker 6: always been, if you're the away team and you go
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  Speaker 6: into overtime, you've almost already lost. That's kind of how
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  Speaker 6: I feel about it. All things are equal. Everybody gets
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  Speaker 6: the same opportunity, friendly environment, home crowd behind your back.
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  Speaker 6: And if you're the road team and we can call
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  Speaker 6: it fourth and one, that was less than a full yard.
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  Speaker 6: It wasn't fourth and half a yard, but it was
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  Speaker 6: less than a full yard. If you can win a
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  Speaker 6: game without having to absolutely give the ball back to
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  Speaker 6: your opponent, I am always for doing that. And you
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  Speaker 6: can say, like Lane has said in the past, well,
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  Speaker 6: I wanted to trust our defense. They played so well.
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  Speaker 6: Then trust your defense. If you put them in a
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  Speaker 6: bad spot, trust them. They just got you out of
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  Speaker 6: it two times before. And, you know, I look at
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  Speaker 6: it like, again, if you don't have to absolutely give
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  Speaker 6: the ball back to someone, don't.
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  Speaker 4: But you can say, oh, well, that's hindsight. No, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 6: Me, you, everybody, pretty much in that moment, we're all
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  Speaker 6: saying go for it. Because if you can't get half
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  Speaker 6: a yard, I don't think you deserve to win anyways.
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  Speaker 6: So it's just the whole point of, oh, trust your defense.
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  Speaker 6: I'm talking myself out of it.
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  Speaker 4: Trust them. You put them in a bad spot and
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  Speaker 4: they bailed you out. Go for it. No, I'm with you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm with you. I mean, you put them in a
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  Speaker 4: bad spot when second and five, you decide to throw
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  Speaker 4: the football and Sam makes a play that you just
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  Speaker 4: can't make. And again, and I do hear what you're
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  Speaker 4: saying about, like, having the right play call and not
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  Speaker 4: feeling great about it, I do hear that. But if
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  Speaker 4: you have an unblocked linebacker on fourth and one, that's
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  Speaker 4: my job. That's my job as a runner. I got
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  Speaker 4: to find a way to go through him and carry
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  Speaker 4: him for three feet. I think if you ask the
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: coaching staff today, Like, they would say, you know, obviously
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: we'd rather go for it. And like you said earlier,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: and you're exactly right, if that situation pops up again
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: this year, it's not even going to be a thought process. But,
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: and they're going to have a play, and they're going
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: to feel good about the play, you should have had
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: that play ready to go on Saturday. Yeah, no, that punter,
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: our punter's not going to get any work this year.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: We might not punt again.
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: What was it, a minute 52? And I believe Kentucky
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: had no timeout. It's like, You can play the whole
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: scenario of, well, if we don't get it and we
• 18:17
  Speaker 6: punt it and we do this and this and this.
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, no. You get it. The game is over.
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: Just go.
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: End it.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: No one's going to be mad at you for going.
• 18:26
  Speaker 7: No.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: Because you have to put good teams away. You have
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: to find a way. If you go for it and
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: you get stopped, I don't think you might have somebody
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: that doesn't know ball get mad at you or something
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: and then, like, look back on it and say, you go.
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: Right, because again, if you can't get half a yard,
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: then you don't deserve to win.
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: And like TayTay said, your defense, backs against the wall twice,
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: and they played well. I don't know. Maybe you call
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: a different defense. I don't, you know.
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: You trust them that much, the worst that happens is
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: they hold them to a field goal like they did.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right. All right.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: Other than that, how are y'all doing? Everybody good? Yeah,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: I hadn't even talked to Saints yet. That's going to
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: cheer the room up. It really is.
• 19:19
  Speaker 8: Actually, I mean, we're not going to be as upset
• 19:21
  Speaker 8: at that because they're just not good.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're not. They're not good. And then we got
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: Kendra having one run. Y'all spamming the group chat. Oh, yeah, baby.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: Y'all let him get hot.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Man had three yards per carry. That's some good blocks, too.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, come on.
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: Doesn't that show how bad they played, though? Had a
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: whole touchdown. It's three yards per carry. You're like, hey,
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: you had a pretty good game.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: He had a touchdown.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: Got us all on the board. Come on, guys. Wow.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, we hating on touchdown getters now?
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: When they hype you up that much, yes. All right,
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: we'll take a break. We'll get to the New Orleans
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: Saints when we come back here on OTB.
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: Off the bench.
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• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Hester and Flynn, presented by Bayou Automotive.
• 21:27
  Speaker 7: And she runs through her days with a smile on
• 21:35
  Speaker 7: her face.
• 21:37
  Speaker 5: And she runs.
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in. OTB here live from the
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Raising Cane Studio. The New Orleans Saints fall to the
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: Minnesota Vikings 23-13. They get outscored in the fourth quarter, 10-0.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: It was tied going into the fourth quarter, but you
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: don't score in the fourth quarter, and you lose to
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Kyler Murray and the Minnesota Vikings. Kyler Murray, pretty efficient.
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: 24 of 30, 229 yards, one touchdown, no interceptions. Tyler Shuck,
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: 16 of 25, 96 yards, no touchdowns, two interceptions. Only
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: took one sack, but Certainly not his best day. And
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: Minnesota was bringing pressure every play. At one point, the
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: second half was 90%. 90% in the second half, yeah.
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: And second half, probably right before the fourth quarter. They
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: threw that graphic up on the screen, 90%. I told y'all,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: somebody's going to get them. The Vikings, they're going to
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: get God at some point. But it wasn't the Saints.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: It was not. Again, Kyle Murray was very efficient. Aaron
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Jones ran right through you.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Who was mad?
• 23:29
  Speaker 7: Huck. Oh, he was mad.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: They had him in fantasy. Dang. I think Shuck got
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: him 1.5 points. Dude, so. Well, look, that's on Huck.
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: Going against a top five defense. I said it. Did
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: he have another QB? Yeah, no, he's hurt. Oh, yeah.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Who was this other QB?
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: That's where I'm at. I had Kirk Fuggins yesterday, and
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: he did not have a great game.
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: Oh, his other quarterback is Caleb.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: So he's been starting Shuck over Caleb. Well, because he's hurt,
• 23:55
  Speaker 8: and it's been working out.
• 23:56
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: A lot of yards.
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: But one and a half points, he was not happy. Yeah,
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: I hate to admit it. My confidence level was so low, Matt.
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: I rolled with your boy, Jordan Love, and it paid
• 24:05
  Speaker 6: off for me.
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Good player. It paid off. Am I right, Jake? Jordan Love? Yeah. No.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Maybe he just needs a Madison beer in his life,
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: and he'll get better.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, it's pretty close to Madison. Wisconsin. You know. Exactly. Ew.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: Love that 70s show. I always think of that when
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: I hear Wisconsin.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Great show.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Great show.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Mm-hmm. They've tried multiple times to replicate it.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: I'm going to put my foot in LSU's ass. Like
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Red would always say, he's putting his foot up Eric's ass.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I'm going to put my foot up LSU's ass. They're
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: going to be playing like that.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: What about Saints? Do they get one too?
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: Oh, foot up their ass.
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: Saints need just like a pity spanking or something. Like
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: you almost feel bad for them at this point.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: That's what they need.
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: Cut the head off the snake?
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Cut the head off the snake.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: This one was as bad as it gets. Even, I
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: don't know, the Falcons one's bad. I mean, to start
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: the season, like you go on the road against Detroit
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: and you have two chances to win that game. You
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: come back and you beat the Ravens on the road.
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: The win is holding up. Then you come back and
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: you play a Raiders team that's much better, and you
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: lose that one late. You don't score in the second half.
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: You're still not feeling bad. Then you get embarrassed by Atlanta.
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: But this one, like this.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: One, I.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: Don't know what to point of anything you did good
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: at all.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: You didn't do anything good.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: You didn't even look good when you were there.
• 25:49
  Speaker 7: No.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: No. It just, it was bad from, I mean, even
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: like being tied. Jay Shone had a sweet play. Even
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: being tied in the fourth quarter.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: At least once a game.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: It was still like, first downs. You had nine first downs.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: They had 18. They doubled you up. On third down,
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: you were two of 10. That's 20% for those doing
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: math at home. Holy cow. And you gave up nine
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: of 18. You had 142 total yards in this game.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: From the very start to the finish, 142. You had
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: more penalties than they had. Time of possession. 39-37 for
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: the Vikings. 20-23 for the Saints. They were toying with you.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: But you can't get the ball back. Man, it's as
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: bad as the LSU game. is and was and should
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: be talked about, LSU is going to win more games
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: this year. Is it going to be what we wanted
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: it to be? Doesn't look like it right now. But
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: they're going to win games. They might win a big game.
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: Probably going to win a big game. The Saints team
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: that we're watching, for all the things that we thought
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: they were going to be, even when they were 1-2,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: all of that's gone right now. And if you can't,
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: There's so many things, like, if you can't do, you're not. Like,
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: if you can't run the football better than what they're
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: currently doing, it doesn't really matter what you do in
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: the past. In the passing game, the first couple of
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: weeks was trying everything you could. But, like, this game
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: showed you exactly what happens when a team doesn't have
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: to worry about you running the football at all, and
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: they're going to get after your young quarterback, and they
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: had him in a blender. You ran the football 17
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: times for 55 yards. Y'all, this is bad. This rushing
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: attack is as bad as it gets. Kendre Miller, 10 carries,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: 30 yards. C.J. Donaldson, 4 carries, 13 yards. Alvin Kamara,
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: 3 carries, 12 yards. You were having success throwing the football,
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: but now teams know they don't have to do anything
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: special to stop you running it. So what do you do? Well,
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: we're going to give our attention to stopping Tyler Shuck
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: and Chris Alave, Devon Bailey. That's what you saw in
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: this game against an elite defense. That's the blueprint moving
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: forward against the New Orleans Saints. And you're 0-3 at
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: home now. You're about to go on the road and
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: play against the Giants. Then you go to Paris to
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: play the Steelers. And then you play the Cleveland Browns
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: and the Carolina Panthers. I would love to say that
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: those are winnable games because– You look at the Giants
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: and Jameis, and they got lucky to come out with
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: a tie yesterday. I don't have faith right now that
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: the Saints are going to be able to do what
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: it takes to play a full 60-minute game, run the
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: football how you need to run it in the National
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: Football League, and not expose the only thing you're good
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: at right now, which is throwing the football, which they
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: got exposed on Sunday.
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: The last two weeks have been demoralizing probably for Saints
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: fans and And I'm talking to 100% of the Saints fans. Because,
• 29:13
  Speaker 8: just like you said, one and two didn't feel that bad.
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: Because it was a pretty good one and two. However,
• 29:23
  Speaker 8: the last two weeks have been embarrassing.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: It's like you've gotten worse.
• 29:26
  Speaker 8: It's like you've gotten worse. And people have adjusted to,
• 29:30
  Speaker 8: just like Jake said, people have adjusted to the zero
• 29:35
  Speaker 8: ability to establish a running game. And Kellen Moore... Thank you.
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: good dude but like you're doing yourself zero favors with
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: saints fans hold somebody account sometimes like yeah you want
• 29:49
  Speaker 8: to keep everything within the building and the former player
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: and him's like everybody everything should stay within the building
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: But at some point, all of the great coaches do it.
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: They threaten guys in the media. They hold people accountable
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: in the media. Sometimes it gets to that point. And
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: not saying anything.
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: They've regressed. I mean, you can't watch that team and
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: not say anything. They have 100% regress. They look worse.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: That's not good. Early, first year, you can, you know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: you get some leeway. This year, it's gotten worse. As
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: you go down the road, it's gotten worse and worse.
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: And this draft class right now, it ain't looking good.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: You're getting nothing from this draft class. And Jordan Tyson, again,
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: if this was a situation where he played every game
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: in college and he had a hammy, you'd be like, man,
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: that's bad luck. But when the thing that was the biggest...
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Calls for concern in Jordan Tyson is playing out exactly
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: how you didn't want it to play out, soft tissue.
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: And we're sitting here, checks the watch, October the 12th,
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: and he hasn't ran a single route yet. That's going
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: to be talked about because that was the flip on
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: him coming out of college. Not one. Or zag? Not
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: a zag, not a now, not a post, not a corner, nothing.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Typical Saints. It really is. And the thing that's annoying
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: is that you had some hope.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: Because Kellen last season and Tyler Shuck toward the end
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: of the season looks like they were putting it all together.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: And you're like, okay, cool. We have like a whole
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: off season to get better. We drafted well, Jordan Tyson.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, he's injury prone, but we'll see. It turns
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: out like injury prone is injury prone.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: And then our good friend, Ross Jackson had this last
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: night and Kellen Moore's 22 games with the saints seven
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: for 15.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Three and eight at home.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Have never scored more than seven in the first quarter,
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: one first quarter lead, four first half leads, fewest first
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: quarter points scored at 35, first quarter three and outs 29,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: and the third worst turnover margin, minus 10.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: And Kellen's 22 games here.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: And he's just going to sit up there and, like,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: put on his little nerd voice and be like, we
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: just got to do better, guys.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, so what are you going to do to make
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: sure that we– get better.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: Matt, how much of this offensive have you broken down?
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: Because I'm watching the game yesterday, and I'm like, what
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: is their goal offensively? What do they want to accomplish?
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: What is their bread and butter?
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: They don't have anything. The question you're trying to ask
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: yourself is, what's their identity?
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, what is their identity? When I'm watching, I'm like, oh,
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: you just send an extra blitzer and play coverage. You
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: got this team beat. What do they do well?
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: Before recently I said they threw the ball well but
• 33:00
  Speaker 8: when you have no threat in the play action game
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: like how many play action passes you calling when you're
• 33:08
  Speaker 8: you're handing it to Kendra yeah you know like it's
• 33:11
  Speaker 8: there's not a lot of threat there so identity is
• 33:17
  Speaker 8: tough to find and I'm not saying it's easy for
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: this coaching staff to try to find that identity because
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: you are not working with a lot In that running game.
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: So that makes it really challenging in the passing game.
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: So to answer your question, I hadn't really broken down
• 33:32
  Speaker 8: a whole heck of a lot. I just watched kind
• 33:36
  Speaker 8: of with everybody else and noticed the things that were noticed.
• 33:38
  Speaker 8: I knew Drew Brees on the call yesterday. He wasn't
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: like real impressed.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: He didn't think it was good.
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: I think he slowly was realizing throughout the game, like
• 33:50
  Speaker 8: in more and more throughout the game, like, oh, yeah, no, we're.
• 33:52
  Speaker 7: Bad, bad.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: And it's bad in a lot of spots, and so it's,
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: you know, you start saying, oh, man, like, what can
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: you do? Like, what can you add? And I think
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: that is such a broad board. But I know one
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: thing that they have to add, and I don't know,
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: no matter who the coach is, they got to add
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: a number one corner on this team. Yeah. They don't
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: have one.
• 34:21
  Speaker 6: You did a really poor job in the offseason dressing them.
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: And I don't know if they would have drafted one
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: if the Chiefs don't move up and take Montsour to
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: the lane. I don't know that. Because he's playing really well.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: But you don't have one. And you don't right now
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: have one that's currently a distant cousin to one. You
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: don't have a guy that maybe, might, could be, ain't
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: even close. You struggle to say you got a solid two. That,
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: to me, every game I've watched, that stands out. Because
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: I actually think up front, certainly on the edges, he's
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: done some nice things. The interior, I've got to see
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: more from Christian Miller. He's just got to play more.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: He played 28 snaps in this game, and it wasn't bad.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: The 28 snaps that he did play, actually, he held
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: his own. You took him in the second round. He's
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: got to be impactful. Brian Brzee went out. I know that.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: We all know that. Now, he had to have a
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: better year. I thought Carl Granderson played well in 47 snaps.
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: Chase Young's your best defensive player. That's not close. By far, yeah.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: It's not even close. It's fun watching him play.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:35
  Speaker 6: From a guy that was like, people said he was
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: lazy at one point.
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: I even thought that Danny Stutzman actually played pretty decent.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: But the back end right now, receivers are watching right now.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: The Saints play defense, and receivers– are saying we're going
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: to have a big day. They're looking forward to the matchup.
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: We look forward to the matchup.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: We got to take a break.
• 36:00
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: We'll do it now. More OTG.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Off the bench.
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Who was that impersonation you just did there, bud? Go
• 36:09
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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Hester and Flynn, presented by Bayou Automotive.
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  Speaker 9: All right, welcome back in OTB.
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  Speaker 4: We will be back at Rouse's on Friday. It's always
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  Speaker 4: a football Friday. Always going to be there, no matter
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  Speaker 4: if it's home or away, no matter if it's an
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  Speaker 4: 11 a.m. kick, gross, or a nighttime kick in Death Valley.
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  Speaker 4: every single Friday during football season, 7 to 10 a.m.,
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  Speaker 4: so come hang out with us. Come eat breakfast with Flynn.
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  Speaker 4: because he's going to smash the breakfast bar. I'm going
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  Speaker 4: the room. The thing that's most frustrating about watching the
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: New Orleans Saints play.
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  Speaker 3: Your inability to run the ball and inability to stop
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  Speaker 3: the run.
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  Speaker 4: Love it.
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  Speaker 2: Both sides of just, like, running the ball is god-awful.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, yep.
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  Speaker 6: I actually found a new most frustrating thing this weekend.
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: I had the game on and the remote slipped through
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  Speaker 6: the couch and I couldn't find it to change the channel.
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  Speaker 6: That was probably the most frustrating thing.
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  Speaker 4: You had to watch that?
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  Speaker 6: I had to keep it on longer. That was pretty frustrating.
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  Speaker 8: I honestly can't really answer this question because I watched
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  Speaker 8: a little bit of it yesterday and then I just
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: went out and played outside. I will say the most
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  Speaker 8: frustrating part for me is hearing no accountability being taken
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  Speaker 8: after the game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Zero.
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  Speaker 4: That's where I was going to go. Was it? Yeah, nice.
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  Speaker 2: Just straight coach speak.
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  Speaker 4: I saw that after I played outside. I didn't watch
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  Speaker 4: the game. I mean, the running game is obvious to me. Like,
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  Speaker 4: if a team can't run the football, that is a–
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  Speaker 4: and I talked about it with LSU in the fourth
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  Speaker 4: and one. That's a mindset, it's a mentality. Like, establish
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: the run. Come up with better running plays. Like, run
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  Speaker 4: right at them. And if it's not working, go to
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  Speaker 4: outside zone. If it's not working, go to some puller. Like,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: try everything. don't just keep saying we can't do it
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: so that's frustrating but the thing that's the most frustrating
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: is it's just all shucks and it's not we got
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  Speaker 4: hey it's on me we got to be better I like,
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  Speaker 4: we got to run the football. We got to challenge ourselves.
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: We got to stop the pass better. We like, and
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: players like Eric McCoy came out yesterday and he was
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: awesome after the game. I mean, he basically said that, right?
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  Speaker 4: The players are taken. Like, he's like, this is, this
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: is not good. He said, you lose three home games already.
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  Speaker 4: And just kind of went off on a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of a tangent. I'll see if we can get the sound.
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  Speaker 4: It's got, it's got some, Oh, it's got some swear
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  Speaker 4: words in it, but it might already be bleeped out. But, Like,
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  Speaker 4: at least, like, he as a leader is like, what
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  Speaker 4: are we doing?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I need to see that from Kellen.
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  Speaker 2: You're not going to.
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  Speaker 4: And if it doesn't happen, he's going to stay the same.
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  Speaker 2: I think, like, Kellen is a really good offensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 4: That's fair. And we don't know if he's.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to, like, lead anybody, really.
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  Speaker 4: And I know, look, and you said there's a lot
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: of former players on that staff. And sometimes you're a
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: little bit more reluctant. But you can't be. Like, just like,
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  Speaker 4: same thing, like, in this job. It's not fun saying
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: stuff about guys that are doing the same thing that
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: you did. And, look, you had failures as well. But
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: it's part of the job. Just like being a head coach.
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  Speaker 4: Part of the job. Hey, I know if I didn't
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: play well, North Turner was going to get behind a
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: microphone and say, hey, our fullback's got to play better. Yeah,
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: we might have to look at our options. And if
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: you went in the game and you didn't play well,
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy would have said, hey, when Aaron's down, we
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: need somebody better. Yeah, we're probably going to get some
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: guys in to work out this week. And were you
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: and Mike close? Like, y'all were good friends? Very good.
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  Speaker 4: I did Norris' podcast last week. But if I play bad,
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  Speaker 4: he's going to be the first person to say, you
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  Speaker 4: got to play better.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's part of the job. You got to do it. Now,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying you become an a-hole, but you say it.
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  Speaker 4: And then guess what? I hear that and I'm like, oh, hell, man,
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  Speaker 4: I got to play better. I got the head coach
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: out there saying I got to play better. I don't
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: take it sensitive. I say, no, me, I pat my chest.
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: There's none of that going on right now. I think
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: Shuck has more than the head coach.
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  Speaker 8: It's a results-oriented world out there, and I think some
• 41:50
  Speaker 8: people in this day and age try to hide that fact,
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  Speaker 8: at least publicly. Again, former players are probably trying to
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  Speaker 8: keep it all within the circle.
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  Speaker 4: That's fine. There's a way to do it without being
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  Speaker 4: an a-hole out there, but also making sure who– Once
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  Speaker 4: you're a coach, you're not a player anymore. No doubt
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  Speaker 4: about it. You're a coach. We'll take a break after this.
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  Speaker 4: Which coach talked to his team through the media more
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  Speaker 4: than any coach ever? Anybody. Belichick did it a lot.
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  Speaker 4: He did. He was one in the NFL. There's a
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: college coach. Nick Saban. Nick Saban. Hey, do they coach together?
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  Speaker 4: Do they know each other? I think so. Decent. Did
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: they ever win? Are they pretty good? They won a
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: few times. Yeah. Would they talk to their team through
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  Speaker 4: the media almost every time they talked to the media?
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  Speaker 4: Every time. That's how you do it. Not the way
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: it's being done in New Orleans right now. We'll have
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  Speaker 4: more when we come back here on OTB.
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  Speaker 1: Off the bench with Hester and Flynn, presented by Bayou Automotive.
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  Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in OTB. Matt, who sings this song? Ooh,
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  Speaker 4: give me a second. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, dude.
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  Speaker 4: I probably do.
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  Speaker 2: We've done this.
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  Speaker 4: Taylor, who sings this song? Don't ask me this. We've
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  Speaker 4: done this. I thought Wallflower.
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  Speaker 2: Spells his name weird.
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  Speaker 4: Great name.
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  Speaker 2: It's a normal name.
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  Speaker 4: Great name.
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  Speaker 2: But he spells it different.
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  Speaker 4: Wallflower is the band. The lead singer is.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And his son's name is? Reggie.
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  Speaker 2: Reggie?
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  Speaker 4: Reggie Dunn. That's Jacob.
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  Speaker 2: But with a K instead of a C. So weird.
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  Speaker 4: Gotcha. People with J's, man. Always spelling their names weird.
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  Speaker 4: With J's? Give me another one. Jace. True.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, bro. You know what?
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  Speaker 2: I'll give you that for having that ready to go. No,
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  Speaker 2: he doesn't like the way Jace Thomas.
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  Speaker 6: I guess they're both, but yeah, Thomas is.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying I didn't like it.
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  Speaker 2: It's a questionable way to spell it.
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  Speaker 4: I don't love it. People get creative with Jackson, too.
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  Speaker 4: They do. For sure. J-A-X-O-N. Jackson Dart's weird. His is X-S,
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  Speaker 4: so it's Jackson. You don't need the S if you
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: have the S.
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  Speaker 2: Why don't you just spell it like a normal person?
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  Speaker 4: What did you say, Matt? It was his dad's name, Jax. Oh,
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  Speaker 4: like Jax. Oh, and he's Jax's son. Son.
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  Speaker 1: Ooh.
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  Speaker 4: It's not just a name. It's a title as well.
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  Speaker 4: I always felt Jax was like the good Lord intended.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like a normal person.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You think the first Jaxon ever was his father was Jax?
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  Speaker 4: For sure.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I got it. Simple. Y'all, I think I heard Marler.
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  Speaker 2: I heard him for sure.
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  Speaker 4: He's in the hallway.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: For sure. I'm ready.
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  Speaker 2: What was the first thing he said to you?
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  Speaker 7: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just curious.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know today, y'all. I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to be honest. He told me.
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  Speaker 6: Some about Sellers?
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  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 4: My man dancing, Rick.
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  Speaker 6: Because when we were here with Matt, he loved that.
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  Speaker 6: There's good energy out there, for sure.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not in that mood today. I know. Well, you're
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  Speaker 4: going to hear a lot about South Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: Just going to have to take it.
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  Speaker 4: They dominated. I don't. They dominated Florida.
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  Speaker 5: Kindly leave.
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  Speaker 4: Which is crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Florida going downhill.
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  Speaker 4: They're not very good. Going down, down.
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  Speaker 2: They got the Josh Ray curse.
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  Speaker 4: They'll always have Ole Miss, though. They will. They'll always
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  Speaker 4: have that. Can't take that away from them. All right.
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  Speaker 4: We'll always have A & M. Marler Monday when we
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