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Chuck & Buck 2-12 Hour 2: Headlines and riding that Parade high! What's next for Walker? Can we move on from the tired Darnold takes? · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep it a buck.
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Speaker 2: I'm probably the last person they should have gave it.
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Speaker 2: Mike too, but we're finn turn up.
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Speaker 3: Man.
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Speaker 2: First off, I want to say shout out to Jody Allen.
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Speaker 2: Shout out to John Snyder for making this all possible, man.
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Speaker 2: Shout out to coach Mike MacDonald for helping us get
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Speaker 2: to this point.
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Speaker 1: Man.
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Speaker 2: But also shout out to these badass mothers who played.
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Speaker 1: This game the right way. Hey, I remember.
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Speaker 2: Not only do we have the best defense in the world,
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Speaker 2: we got the best team in the world. And quite frankly,
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Speaker 2: if you got anything to say for my quarterback, you
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Speaker 2: got anything to say for my defense, you got anything
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Speaker 2: to say for our online and you got anything to
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Speaker 2: say by the city of Seattle, I got two words
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Speaker 2: for you.
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Speaker 1: Party mouth, the pottiest of mouths.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the best of the.
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Speaker 5: Good morning seven o'clock hour, checking Buck Sports Radio ninety
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Speaker 5: three point three KJRFM here on this Thursday.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, feeling like champion still. I know it's Thursday.
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Speaker 5: We've had in a whole week, but I'm not done
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Speaker 5: feeling like a champion, and I'm sure all of Seattle
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Speaker 5: isn't either.
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Speaker 1: Certainly, Ernest Jones.
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Speaker 5: Isn't that was his speech yesterday. I may have fallen
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Speaker 5: short of classy. I'm not sure if it was the
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Speaker 5: classiest speech ever given.
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure need to be.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not sure that it's you know, should be
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Speaker 5: repeated in schools today. I don't know if missus Crabtree
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Speaker 5: should play that speech for her third grade class. Definitely
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Speaker 5: not today up there in snowhomish, you know, maybe not.
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Speaker 5: Maybe slide away from that.
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Speaker 1: There's others you could play.
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Speaker 4: That's fair.
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Speaker 5: But I will say this, if people are hearing that
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Speaker 5: for the first time or are exposed to Ernest Jones
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Speaker 5: for the first time, it was something he said earlier
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Speaker 5: in the year. I mean, the whole team knew what
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Speaker 5: was coming. If you've been following the team, we all
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Speaker 5: knew what was coming. If you were operating one of
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Speaker 5: the local television stations and you didn't see that coming
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Speaker 5: and dump out in time.
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Speaker 1: Then you haven't been paying attention at all.
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Speaker 5: This is something that he said earlier this year and
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Speaker 5: got a lot of headlines for in defending Sam Darnold
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Speaker 5: and the whole roster was waiting for his speech yesterday
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Speaker 5: so that he could go even further with it.
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Speaker 1: So it's just him.
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Speaker 5: You know, they're probably better catchphrases to have as a
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Speaker 5: professional athlete, but that kind of was his catchphrase.
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Speaker 1: This year, and that was sort of his attitude this year.
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Speaker 5: So when he got up on the stage got behind
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Speaker 5: a microphone, we kind of all knew what he was
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Speaker 5: getting ready to say.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean he's kind of that. I don't know,
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Speaker 6: he's that og of the defense. I mean there's a
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Speaker 6: few of them. D Law I think is another one
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Speaker 6: of them. I think that they have multiple guys, but
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Speaker 6: he's that one. He just seems like that one that
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Speaker 6: just kind of had you want to have that dog
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Speaker 6: in you. You want to be that one, like just
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Speaker 6: kind of hard nos you know, you play the game
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Speaker 6: the right way. He started off with that, like we
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Speaker 6: got the team, how about my guys who play the
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Speaker 6: game the right way? And I think there's an attitude
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Speaker 6: that comes with it if there's a lot of things
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Speaker 6: that have to go in to turn it into a
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Speaker 6: Super Bowl championship team. And I think that the hate
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Speaker 6: on Sam Donald was a galvanizing thing for everybody in
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Speaker 6: the locker room, right and he was the first one.
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Speaker 6: I think they all were came to his defense and
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Speaker 6: had his back when everybody was like, oh, Sam Donald,
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Speaker 6: he's he's not good. Look what he did in the
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Speaker 6: playoffs last year, overlooking the fact that he was fourteen
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Speaker 6: and three and whatever else he did well last season.
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Speaker 6: And so when they started hearing it, he just came
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Speaker 6: out and said, you don't like it. You think my
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Speaker 6: quarterback's bad. F you, And so he just doubled down
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Speaker 6: on it now, saying we got the best defense. You
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Speaker 6: got something to say about my quarterback, my offensive line,
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Speaker 6: or just Seattle in general.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that shirt he was wearing for.
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Speaker 6: The shirt with Tim Darnold, like smoking on a long
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Speaker 6: dart and flipping off with a beard like if I'm
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Speaker 6: a dieheard Seahug fan, I probably owned that shirt.
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Speaker 1: Because that's the scarlet d.
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Speaker 6: But put into a different context, Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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Speaker 5: Well, and I would also, I would imagine Ernest Jones
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Speaker 5: sales have gone up.
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Speaker 1: I mean he checks every box for me.
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Speaker 5: I mean, certainly from an athletic standpoint.
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Speaker 1: Maybe not the greatest athlete at linebacker in the National.
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Speaker 5: Football League, but for everything you're looking for from him
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Speaker 5: inside linebacker, from a mic linebacker, from a green dot linebacker.
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Speaker 5: You know, that's an area where you usually do sacrifice
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Speaker 5: a little bit of the forty time, you know, the
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Speaker 5: standing long jump, because you just want a dog. As
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Speaker 5: you said, you want the guy with the right mentality
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Speaker 5: for the sport, the right leadership qualities.
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Speaker 1: And man does he checked every box.
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Speaker 5: I mean I remember when he was a Rams and
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Speaker 5: I'm like, man, I hate playing this Ernest Jones guy.
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Speaker 5: And when he became a Seahawk, I wasn't sure it
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Speaker 5: was going to work out this smoothly.
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Speaker 1: But he's just been an excellent addition.
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Speaker 5: I would think despite the potty mouth, a few Ernest
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Speaker 5: Jones jerseys are going to get sold this offseason.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would think.
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Speaker 3: So. I was listening to another station that had snuck
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Speaker 3: into the locker room and the guy was wearing an
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Speaker 3: Ernest Jones Jones jersey yesterday, and Ernest Jones came up
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Speaker 3: to him. He's like, hey, man, I like your jersey.
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Speaker 3: And the guy was like, hey, thanks, and then looked
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Speaker 3: down and looked up and realized, oh wait, you are
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Speaker 3: Ernest Jones. I just thought that was funny. I was like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: that's a good moment. Hey man, I like your jersey.
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Speaker 1: We also have some headlines brought to you by Frost.
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Speaker 5: Brewed Corps light the parade yesterday, which we'll talk more
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Speaker 5: about in a moment. The off season is now officially underway,
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Speaker 5: even for the Seahawks. A lot of other teams have
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Speaker 5: already gotten started. As it turns out, Seahawks can now
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Speaker 5: get started on their off season now that we've had
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Speaker 5: a championship parade in all. Yeah, yeah, can focus on
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Speaker 5: others things and the rest of the league's been focusing
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Speaker 5: on for whatever.
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Speaker 6: I think they're starting their their search, their in house
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Speaker 6: search to replace Quinn Kubiak today. I think it's long
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Speaker 6: been started. Well, I mean they're going to continue with
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Speaker 6: the I guess today and tomorrow. I think they have
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Speaker 6: the four guys on top of their list that are
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Speaker 6: in house that they who knows, we could know this
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Speaker 6: weekend it's going to be replacing him.
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Speaker 1: Well, maybe Greg will tell you today. Who knows. Mariner
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Speaker 1: spring training is underway.
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Speaker 5: Bucky and I will be there Saturday, first day down
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Speaker 5: there Sunday. First showdown there will be Monday. So excited
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Speaker 5: about that, excited about the left turn we're getting ready
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Speaker 5: to take. From a content standpoint in the Seattle Sports world,
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Speaker 5: NBA All Star Weekend is this weekend. You double loss
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Speaker 5: to Penn State last night. That is a terrible loss,
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Speaker 5: sixty three to sixty to a team that had won
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Speaker 5: one Big ten conference game on your home court, and
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Speaker 5: you lose by three. That's a bad loss for Danny's
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Speaker 5: Sprinkle and the Huskies. And of course the Olympics continue
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Speaker 5: from Milan. But around these here parts people still buzzing
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Speaker 5: from a parade that attracted what is believed to be
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Speaker 5: more than a million people. And that's kind of fun
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Speaker 5: because because there's not an exact number, there's no way
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Speaker 5: to come up with an exact number. We can lie
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Speaker 5: about it to our friends. Three point seven billion people
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Speaker 5: showed up yesterday.
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Speaker 4: It was packed all over the town.
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Speaker 5: Everybody on the best behavior felt that way, felt like
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Speaker 5: the exact mood.
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Speaker 1: That you hoped would be struck got struck. Early in
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Speaker 1: the morning.
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Speaker 5: I mean, even when we were broadcasting from Jimmy's. I
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Speaker 5: mean the people that came in, they were outstanding. They
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Speaker 5: patiently waited in line for their chance to come into
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Speaker 5: the bar. They came into the bar, they were participatory,
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Speaker 5: they were hungry, they were thirsty. The place was packed,
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Speaker 5: and yet there wasn't any nonsense that was going on
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Speaker 5: in there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: I mean they were just there, just happy and didn't
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Speaker 5: want to disrupt anybody else's happiness. And I think that
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Speaker 5: was the key to the whole parade, Like people were
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Speaker 5: there with joy and they weren't there to ruin anybody
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Speaker 5: else's good time, whether that was a player, a coach,
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Speaker 5: or just another Seahawk fan.
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Speaker 1: It was a job well done. I mean we started
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Speaker 1: the show with this.
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Speaker 5: I gave a round of applause to Seattle, to twelves,
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Speaker 5: I'll give another one. I mean that was just phenomenal
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Speaker 5: Because I just I'm jaded by the news twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 5: I don't think you can bring ten people together in
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Speaker 5: a room without somebody throwing a punch. We brought a
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Speaker 5: million people together to celebrate the Super Bowl and it
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Speaker 5: just felt like nothing but a joy celebration.
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Speaker 1: It was amazing. Yeah, yeah, it was amazing.
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Speaker 6: I mean I think that the idea of having these
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Speaker 6: parades afterwards is big for the fans, right, And yet
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Speaker 6: yesterday felt like it was really big for the Seahawks. Now,
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Speaker 6: I'm sure that it is for all of them, right,
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Speaker 6: And we remember just the Tom Brady one where he
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Speaker 6: was throwing the trophy and all of the ones. You know,
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Speaker 6: I remember the Philadelphia won last year. Like, I think
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Speaker 6: the the players enjoy it, but I think it's more
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Speaker 6: so for the fans. It just seems like the fans
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Speaker 6: all get to get together and and go out there
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Speaker 6: and celebrate what they got to witness. And the fact
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Speaker 6: that you know, I saw a video of Dick Fane
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Speaker 6: and his family singing we are the champions in the stadium.
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Speaker 6: They're not very well yeah yeah, they can't carry it
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Speaker 6: to Yeah you guys very pitchy dog and.
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Speaker 1: Send some harmony next time. Yeah right. I don't know.
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Speaker 4: Who's supposed to family band, are you?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you're not the Jackson four, I'll tell you that,
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Speaker 6: But I do. I mean, I think that it's mostly
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Speaker 6: for the fans, But yesterday felt like and maybe it's
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Speaker 6: just because we're closer to it and we know the
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Speaker 6: players a little bit more and foe the season and
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Speaker 6: and you know how they were kind of overlooked at
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Speaker 6: the beginning of season to where they ended up being.
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Speaker 6: But it felt like it was a lot of a
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Speaker 6: lot of appreciation to the fans, which I don't know
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Speaker 6: necessarily if I always feel like that. When I watched
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Speaker 6: the break.
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Speaker 5: I agree, and I don't think that we're over analyzing that.
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Speaker 1: I think it was clear.
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Speaker 5: I think it was pure as if anything, I'm a
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Speaker 5: cynic about that stuff. Like I said, I don't I
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Speaker 5: get nervous if there are too many people anywhere at
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Speaker 5: any given time. There's a little bit of that that's like,
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Speaker 5: oh boy, this is getting too crowded. And so for
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Speaker 5: me to I kind of go into those things kind
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Speaker 5: of expecting something bad to happen. And so I mean,
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Speaker 5: I think it was just so obvious from the moment
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Speaker 5: we were broadcasting there to the moment we handed it
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Speaker 5: off the Inverness, and then on through the day until
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Speaker 5: two o'clock when it started to finally break apart. I
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Speaker 5: think it just went off without a hitch. I gotta
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Speaker 5: believe that somebody had a dream come true wish in
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Speaker 5: the city of Seattle, Like all right, they found Aladdin,
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Speaker 5: you get three wishes? All right, I'm gonna spend one
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Speaker 5: of them on no incidents at the parade and then
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Speaker 5: then we'll worry about finances and health.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Well, and it was funny because when Jackson was on
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Speaker 3: the air, he was like, oh and we've gotten arrest.
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Speaker 4: It's an Angels fan and some guy in an Angel's
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Speaker 4: T shirt and hat.
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Speaker 3: Was like the only arrest of He wasn't doing any
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Speaker 3: like I don't know, maybe just being drunken drunk or something.
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Speaker 3: But it was like the most calm exactly right, but
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Speaker 3: it was like the most calm thing ever. It was like,
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Speaker 3: oh and there's someone and that was it. It is
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Speaker 3: just the whole thing was it was like a love
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Speaker 3: fest between It was from both sides. I think it
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Speaker 3: was the chance for the fans to get to say,
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Speaker 3: like this is you know, as Greg described it yesterday,
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Speaker 3: people who can't couldn't afford to go to the games
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Speaker 3: and couldn't afford to go to the Super Bowl, but
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Speaker 3: they get to celebrate with their team. And it was
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Speaker 3: a chance for the team to celebrate with all of
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Speaker 3: their fans because they didn't get to do it at home, right,
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Speaker 3: They had a lot of fans that showed up in
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Speaker 3: Santa Clara, but they got to come here and just
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Speaker 3: get loved to, and then they got to share the
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Speaker 3: love back with all the fans and the coaches and
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Speaker 3: the staff and the you know, owners and GM everybody
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Speaker 3: just got to show the fans how much they loved them.
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Speaker 3: And that was apparent with the amount of players that
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Speaker 3: didn't even want to be in the buses and wanted
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Speaker 3: to be down on the ground showing their actual appreciation
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Speaker 3: to the fans and making it about the fans while
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Speaker 3: the fans were making it about the players.
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Speaker 4: If that makes sense, yeah.
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Speaker 6: I do.
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Speaker 5: I think it makes a lot of sense. And I
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Speaker 5: think something we discussed earlier this week. I mean that
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Speaker 5: last championship team, they had a brashness about them and
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Speaker 5: a cockiness about them, and they were the baby only
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Speaker 5: the mother could love here in Seattle, because nobody else
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Speaker 5: liked that team. Nationwide, nobody else liked that team. But
12:41
Speaker 5: obviously in Seattle, twelves loved that team. That was a
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Speaker 5: championship team. They were exciting to watch play football. They
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Speaker 5: they were close in their own way, not like this,
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Speaker 5: but that's that was certainly a brash neist to them,
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Speaker 5: a cockingness, and I think that that rubbed off on
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Speaker 5: the fans. The fans were also and cocky, and I
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Speaker 5: lived in Arizona at the time, and Arizona fans would
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Speaker 5: see a Seahawk fan in the grocery store.
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Speaker 1: Line and they're like, oh, geez, this guy. You know.
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Speaker 5: So that was going on back in those times. But
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Speaker 5: this team has a completely different persona and maybe that
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Speaker 5: sort of rubs off on the fan base.
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. Greg Bell brought this up yesterday.
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Speaker 5: It's something that I've talked about as well, that they
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Speaker 5: changed their approach to how they were going to draft
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Speaker 5: here in the last three to four years. And they
13:35
Speaker 5: didn't sacrifice athleticism, and they didn't sacrifice the football skills
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Speaker 5: and tools that they were looking for, but they stopped
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Speaker 5: drafting character issues, red flag issues. Pete Carroll had this
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Speaker 5: mentality that I can coach anybody.
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Speaker 1: Just give me the talented guy. I'll get the most
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Speaker 1: out of them. I'm Pete Carrol. Everybody loves Pete. I'm Pete.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: And it didn't work every time, and when it did work,
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Speaker 5: it didn't work forever. And usually in almost every case,
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Speaker 5: including Russell, who was his baby, the guy who he
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Speaker 5: babied and pissed everybody off. Even Russell ended up angry
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Speaker 5: with Pete and wanted out of Seattle.
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Speaker 3: First he wanted Pete out, Yeah yeah, and then it
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Speaker 3: was like, oh, you're not gonna fire Pete.
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Speaker 4: Fine, yeah yeah, after.
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Speaker 5: All that Pete did for it. So that sort of
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Speaker 5: mentality like give me any I don't care about any
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Speaker 5: like character flaws or anything else because I can coach
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Speaker 5: it anybody, I can play any instrument. Johnsh and Eider
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Speaker 5: changed things, particularly after Pete left, is like, no, every
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Speaker 5: single person's gonna have character, every single person's gonna have
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Speaker 5: love for the game. And I think that's reflected in
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Speaker 5: the team. I think that's reflective in the roster. And
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Speaker 5: I sit here and this is what I was thinking
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Speaker 5: about yesterday. I mean, we're off to a really special
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Speaker 5: start as a sports community in tw six and there's
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Speaker 5: a long way to go in the year.
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Speaker 1: There are a lot of exciting things that could happen.
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Speaker 5: We could get the Sonics back, We've got the World
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Speaker 5: Cup coming here, the crack and I think are have
15:09
Speaker 5: a shot at making the playoffs, getting back to Stanley
15:11
Speaker 5: Cup playoffs, and the Mariners. According to Pakota rankings yesterday,
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Speaker 5: if you buy into those second highest win total in
15:18
Speaker 5: Major League Baseball, So Vegas is saying, next to the
15:21
Speaker 5: Los Angeles Dodgers, this is the best team in Major
15:24
Speaker 5: League Baseball. So we should have a pretty good baseball season,
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Speaker 5: and who knows what we could do at the end
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Speaker 5: of the year. So this could be a special year.
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Speaker 5: But I also think it's made more special when your
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Speaker 5: leaders are cal rally Julio Rodriguez, Sam Darnold, guys that
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Speaker 5: aren't just good at what they do, you know, Ernest Jones,
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Speaker 5: I know he's got a potty mouth. I love that guy,
15:48
Speaker 5: JSN Devin Witherspoon, not just great players, but all about
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Speaker 5: the team, all about not letting the other guy down.
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Speaker 5: A couple of incidents where he got lost in the shuffle,
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Speaker 5: but I don't think in any way is he a
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Speaker 5: bad guy. But I think it's even more exciting that
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Speaker 5: not only do we seem to have really good teams
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Speaker 5: right now in Seattle, they are all so likable on
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Speaker 5: all the rosters. It's an amazing little run that we
16:21
Speaker 5: could be going on here in Seattle. And it starts
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Speaker 5: in twenty twenty six with winning a Super Bowl championship
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Speaker 5: with a very likable team.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you guys know me well enough to I mean,
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Speaker 6: you guys know me well enough to note that I
16:34
Speaker 6: put a lot of stock in how you do something,
16:40
Speaker 6: maybe even more than how it ends up, just because
16:43
Speaker 6: I think in the long run, how you go about
16:45
Speaker 6: your business is indicative. It's going to be reflective in
16:50
Speaker 6: the outcome of however it is, whether it's how you
16:52
Speaker 6: treat your coworkers, how you treat your family, how you
16:57
Speaker 6: go about your business as a professional athlete, I think
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Speaker 6: comes out in the wash. If you get a roster
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Speaker 6: of guys, whether it's twenty six in baseball or whether
17:06
Speaker 6: it's fifty three or seventy in the NFL, if you
17:09
Speaker 6: can get a roster of guys that all have a
17:12
Speaker 6: similar belief and then they're pulling for one another, it's
17:16
Speaker 6: more important, Chuck, for me to do my job so
17:21
Speaker 6: that I don't let you guys down, than it is
17:23
Speaker 6: for you to do your job so you feel good
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Speaker 6: about you. It's that team part of it is what
17:28
Speaker 6: turns anything into more than just a group of individuals
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Speaker 6: trying to do good for themselves.
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Speaker 1: And so I'm with you.
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Speaker 6: I think that I think cal Rawly has taken the
17:39
Speaker 6: reins of the team. You know, I think he was
17:42
Speaker 6: attle bit reluctant to do it, or just maybe waiting
17:44
Speaker 6: his biden his time, waiting until he was more of
17:46
Speaker 6: a veteran to have a little bit be a little
17:49
Speaker 6: bit more outspoken. I think in the locker room or
17:51
Speaker 6: in you know, pitcher catchers meeting, he certainly was that
17:54
Speaker 6: guy from the moment he stepped on the on the
17:56
Speaker 6: field here as a big leaguer. But I think that
17:58
Speaker 6: the idea of I'm gonna wait my turn and then
18:01
Speaker 6: when it's when it's time to speak, I don't have
18:04
Speaker 6: to say a bunch right, my words carry more. Sometimes
18:07
Speaker 6: less is more. I think that he's he kind of
18:09
Speaker 6: embodies that. I think that this Seahawks team from the
18:12
Speaker 6: top down from John Schneiders, when he finally got the
18:15
Speaker 6: reins of the organization, when they moved on from Pete,
18:18
Speaker 6: it's like, Okay, I'm going back to what I want
18:21
Speaker 6: playing and simple, and that includes Mike McDonald higher. And
18:25
Speaker 6: it's like this guy has that same type of belief
18:27
Speaker 6: and it trickles all the way down through it. It's
18:29
Speaker 6: way more fun to root for a team that isn't
18:32
Speaker 6: full of a bunch of a holes that are all
18:34
Speaker 6: about me, me, me, but instead they're all about us
18:37
Speaker 6: as a group. It's I don't I can't stand when
18:40
Speaker 6: players are selfish, and I don't think any of the
18:42
Speaker 6: teams we have here in Seattle have that selfishness.
18:45
Speaker 3: Just to compare to when you were talking about that
18:47
Speaker 3: twenty thirteen team and that parade versus this parade, it
18:51
Speaker 3: was interesting because I mentioned yesterday, Well, I remember Marshawn
18:54
Speaker 3: Lynch walking down the street and he was drinking fireball
18:57
Speaker 3: in champagne and Greg brought up he was throwing skittles.
18:59
Speaker 4: He was the only one.
19:01
Speaker 3: And then you look at yesterday and how many of them,
19:04
Speaker 3: as I mean, how many of them were down with
19:07
Speaker 3: the fans versus up in the buses. They wanted to
19:09
Speaker 3: be a part of it. And I feel like the
19:10
Speaker 3: fans now think versus like back then it was like
19:13
Speaker 3: all these guys are rock stars, and now it's like, no,
19:16
Speaker 3: these guys are one of us.
19:18
Speaker 4: I think there's a different feeling, like a more of
19:20
Speaker 4: a camaraderie with the team.
19:22
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and I wasn't necessarily trying to compare.
19:26
Speaker 5: I'm certainly not calling twenty thirteen team you know, like
19:30
Speaker 5: a like problem children understand why everybody loves them, but
19:35
Speaker 5: there certainly is a different it's different. It's a difference
19:39
Speaker 5: in the way that they and then the guy since
19:42
Speaker 5: that team that they've drafted and tried to roll the
19:45
Speaker 5: dice on where they overlooked red flags and they overlooked
19:49
Speaker 5: character issues. And I think it got them off their
19:52
Speaker 5: path because Pete was way too confident in his ability
19:56
Speaker 5: to coach up guys. I don't care if every coach
19:59
Speaker 5: Malik McDowell's ever had said.
20:01
Speaker 1: Don't draft him, they're not me.
20:04
Speaker 5: Yeah, And that was the mentality for about seven years,
20:08
Speaker 5: and it ended up with a bunch of met drafts
20:11
Speaker 5: or below me. And then they got back to you
20:15
Speaker 5: know what, I'm tired of drafting those guys. I want
20:17
Speaker 5: guys that love football, love life, have good relationships with
20:21
Speaker 5: their families, are going to be good with our fans,
20:25
Speaker 5: and and and also I'm not going to sacrifice talent, skill, work, ethic,
20:31
Speaker 5: not going to sacrifice any of that. But I want
20:33
Speaker 5: a different type of football player. That's what I want
20:36
Speaker 5: to win with. And John Schneider and Mike McDonald have
20:38
Speaker 5: have cultivated that They've planted seeds and now they are
20:43
Speaker 5: reaping the benefits of a great harvest because of the
20:47
Speaker 5: time they put into not just finding football talent, but
20:51
Speaker 5: quality football people.
20:53
Speaker 1: Yeah.
20:53
Speaker 6: Oh, I mean I think you can fall victim to it.
20:56
Speaker 6: I think anybody can fall victim to you do something
20:58
Speaker 6: that's different, right, you. You take Russell Wilson where everybody
21:02
Speaker 6: else is like too short, you know not, and you
21:04
Speaker 6: it turns into what Russell Wilson was before he needed
21:07
Speaker 6: to cook. You take a guy that was overlooked in
21:11
Speaker 6: a Richard Sherman and you turn him into a Hall
21:14
Speaker 6: of Fame type quarterback. Then all of a sudden, you're like,
21:17
Speaker 6: you almost want to do it different. Yeah, watch me,
21:20
Speaker 6: I'll turn that guy into that guy because he has
21:23
Speaker 6: arms that length. No, that's not the way it is.
21:26
Speaker 6: Go back to the basics. How fast is he, does
21:29
Speaker 6: he fit the does he fit the profile? And then
21:31
Speaker 6: also is he a good teammate because you can't have
21:34
Speaker 6: too many cancers. Once that starts to infect your locker room,
21:39
Speaker 6: it takes over and you got to either cut it
21:41
Speaker 6: off or it's gonna take over and it's gonna it's
21:43
Speaker 6: gonna diminish the entire product.
21:45
Speaker 5: So it starts with wanting Nick Emon worry because of
21:48
Speaker 5: what you see on tape.
21:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where it starts.
21:52
Speaker 5: But where Mike McDonald's like, you better not lose this guy,
21:57
Speaker 5: that's when the other stuff comes into play, right, because
22:00
Speaker 5: not only is he a freak.
22:02
Speaker 1: He loves this game. Do you know what I could
22:04
Speaker 1: do with him? All Right, you're taking Zabel now, but
22:07
Speaker 1: you better get him too, right, or I am going
22:10
Speaker 1: to wring your neck. Yeah, you know that's that's the
22:15
Speaker 1: type of player. I mean, don't worry. I got it.
22:18
Speaker 5: They got the freak athlete, They got the freakiest athlete
22:21
Speaker 5: in there. They got this a skilled safety, but they
22:23
Speaker 5: also got a guy that they knew, loved the game,
22:27
Speaker 5: was a great teammate and was going to give his all.
22:30
Speaker 5: I mean, and man, I think they've just what a
22:32
Speaker 5: magic formula they have created?
22:34
Speaker 1: All right?
22:35
Speaker 5: Coming up next, the offseason does begin, and for ken Walker,
22:39
Speaker 5: it's going to be a different offseason than a lot
22:41
Speaker 5: of people that were parading about the streets of Seattle yesterday.
22:45
Speaker 5: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM.
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Speaker 1: Ken Walker be in the MVP. Let's gone.
23:00
Speaker 2: He's tried negotiating with me five minutes ago. It was
23:02
Speaker 2: really weird. Anyway, Hey CAVPVPVP.
23:18
Speaker 5: He's having if there was one awkward moment in the
23:21
Speaker 5: entire thing, that might have been it.
23:22
Speaker 4: Yeah, Am I right about that? When he's like anyway, yeah, MVP.
23:28
Speaker 5: Now, ken Walker does not drink, Okay, So as somebody
23:34
Speaker 5: that does not have his first drink till the age
23:36
Speaker 5: of thirty one, and yet went to high school parties
23:39
Speaker 5: and college parties and lived in Vegas in his twenties,
23:42
Speaker 5: I've been around plenty of people that were drinking to
23:46
Speaker 5: getting drunk, yeah, and I was stone cold sober, and
23:50
Speaker 5: so I can relate to that, to that experience of
23:54
Speaker 5: ken Walker and all of his teammates kind of. I mean,
23:58
Speaker 5: let's face it, Red Solo cup Man showed up a
24:00
Speaker 5: little tuned up oh yeah yeah, And so I think
24:04
Speaker 5: maybe there was a little bit of an element of
24:06
Speaker 5: ken Walker, like, uh, I can't get into this as
24:10
Speaker 5: much as you guys can because I'm the only sober
24:12
Speaker 5: person on the roster right now, And maybe there was
24:15
Speaker 5: another person I don't know, but he did have that
24:17
Speaker 5: sort of look. But he's standing right over John's left shoulder.
24:20
Speaker 5: John's doing his wedding reception speech with his red solo cup.
24:25
Speaker 5: Look at the bride's here for the bride.
24:29
Speaker 1: Everybody, the bride, didn't you look beautiful? Hey? Cheers bride
24:33
Speaker 1: for the bartender. Bartender's doing a great draft. Nice heavy,
24:38
Speaker 1: poor bartender. Here for the bartender.
24:42
Speaker 5: So he's doing his you know, red red solo cup speech.
24:45
Speaker 5: But then he gets to Ken Walker and you could
24:49
Speaker 5: see the person that he's cheersing toasting that's the better word,
24:55
Speaker 5: toasting to and Walker doesn't smile. He just kind of
24:59
Speaker 5: sitt there, like what are you going to say?
25:01
Speaker 1: It's like eyeser wandering.
25:04
Speaker 5: MVV and his expression didn't really change to me. It
25:10
Speaker 5: was like the one awkward moment of yesterday. And I'm
25:13
Speaker 5: sorry to even introduce this into the universe. I don't
25:16
Speaker 5: think I am. By the way, it does kind of
25:18
Speaker 5: make you wonder, like Ken Walker still want to be here,
25:22
Speaker 5: ken Walker holding a little bit of a I mean,
25:25
Speaker 5: Greg told us that maybe he was a little bit
25:28
Speaker 5: bothered that it took until the playoffs this year to
25:32
Speaker 5: feel valued as much as he thought he should have been.
25:36
Speaker 5: It didn't make me feel like, I don't know if
25:38
Speaker 5: that he doesn't seem nearly as happy as everybody else
25:41
Speaker 5: about this day.
25:42
Speaker 1: And maybe it was the alcohol.
25:43
Speaker 5: Maybe that's just ken Walker's personality, but I guess that's
25:46
Speaker 5: my conclusion. He seemed he didn't seem as happy as
25:50
Speaker 5: everybody else on the stage seemed yesterday. He seemed pretty
25:53
Speaker 5: much straight faced. Yeah, I mean, I think that is
25:57
Speaker 5: part him. I think he just has that person.
26:00
Speaker 6: He's more quiet and just not probably is up and
26:03
Speaker 6: down and ride the roller coasters much. And then I
26:06
Speaker 6: think also, I think I think there's a most certainly
26:09
Speaker 6: is a part of everybody gets re upped when they
26:13
Speaker 6: have one year left on their deal, if your team
26:16
Speaker 6: likes you. That's just the way that it is.
26:18
Speaker 1: Now.
26:18
Speaker 6: Running back, everybody knows is a bit more of a
26:21
Speaker 6: volatile situation because of the injury possibilities. And yet he
26:26
Speaker 6: coming off of last year it was not a good year.
26:28
Speaker 6: He was hurt, and they just said, no, we're not
26:31
Speaker 6: reuping anything. You're gonna play that thing out. And so
26:35
Speaker 6: I don't think there's one doubt that if there is
26:39
Speaker 6: any animosity inside that organization, even on the heels of
26:44
Speaker 6: a Super Bowl, it's probably ken Walker and.
26:46
Speaker 1: The general manager John Schneider, Right.
26:49
Speaker 6: Ken Walker and his people because ken Walker probably is
26:52
Speaker 6: the one talking to him. If he did say something,
26:54
Speaker 6: if John Schneider was it wasn't the booze talking and
26:57
Speaker 6: he was serious about ken just tried to negotiate with me,
26:59
Speaker 6: Like if he said something like, hey, let's get a
27:01
Speaker 6: deal done.
27:02
Speaker 1: You gotta pay now. I just carried this right.
27:05
Speaker 6: If he said something like that, usually it's your agent
27:09
Speaker 6: talking to John Schneider, and then there's relayed messages back,
27:12
Speaker 6: and so you don't know for sure exactly what's said.
27:15
Speaker 6: You almost think it's usually worse than what your agent
27:18
Speaker 6: tells you because your agent's trying to protect you from
27:20
Speaker 6: going back in and just being like real motherflower, you
27:23
Speaker 6: said this, And so I do think that there's probably
27:26
Speaker 6: some animosity there. And yet on the flip side of it,
27:28
Speaker 6: now he gets to kind of look at him like,
27:30
Speaker 6: all right, ball's near court now, Bob, what are you
27:32
Speaker 6: gonna do? Because I did just after Zach Sherbin he
27:35
Speaker 6: got hurt. I carried the load and helped us obviously
27:39
Speaker 6: achieve the dream.
27:40
Speaker 3: I also think, though, that ken Walker might just be
27:42
Speaker 3: that kind of yes still type person.
27:44
Speaker 1: I mean, notice he celebrated with his teammates later.
27:47
Speaker 3: Yes, but like in terms of he didn't even go
27:50
Speaker 3: up and give a speech, right, and so you're I
27:53
Speaker 3: wonder if it's if maybe that kind of atmosphere just
27:56
Speaker 3: makes him a little nervous or you know. And but
27:59
Speaker 3: John was kind of trying to include him because he's
28:01
Speaker 3: not making a speech.
28:02
Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't know.
28:04
Speaker 5: I think John was including him because the pitch has now,
28:10
Speaker 5: the pitch to keep him has suddenly entered a new gear.
28:14
Speaker 5: I mean, if you noticed, even with Red Solo Cup,
28:17
Speaker 5: you know, and hey, that's here for the grooves. Mother,
28:23
Speaker 5: this is wonderful, Thank you groom, mother, cheers Betty. You know,
28:30
Speaker 5: even even through the Red Solo Cup speech, he did
28:33
Speaker 5: have like a little note card and he flipped it
28:36
Speaker 5: over in the middle of it and you could even
28:39
Speaker 5: see him with his finger like go down.
28:42
Speaker 1: So I think he made it a priority to not
28:44
Speaker 1: forget Ken.
28:45
Speaker 5: Yeah, but didn't really have anything to say other than
28:49
Speaker 5: super Bowl MVP kid Walker, You're awesome, you know, And
28:54
Speaker 5: so I don't know, I don't know.
28:56
Speaker 1: It it rung awkward to me.
29:00
Speaker 5: I would imagine to keep him number one, I think
29:03
Speaker 5: you're going to have to pay a lot more than
29:05
Speaker 5: you thought you were going to have to pay a
29:06
Speaker 5: year ago because his market just drove up ridiculously. Secondly,
29:13
Speaker 5: I don't know, maybe you've burned that bridge. Maybe ken
29:17
Speaker 5: Walker feels a little underappreciated, and maybe it's going to
29:23
Speaker 5: be a difficult negotiation to try to keep him. Because
29:25
Speaker 5: I can promise you I said this earlier in the week.
29:29
Speaker 5: The Seahawks have a lot of cap space, but there
29:33
Speaker 5: are teams out there with more cap space that are
29:36
Speaker 5: a lot more desperate to win than what John Schneider
29:39
Speaker 5: is right now coming off a Super Bowl championship, and
29:42
Speaker 5: the combination of money and desperation leads to a lot
29:46
Speaker 5: of mistakes. Look at Meg Ryan's face. It leads to
29:52
Speaker 5: a lot of mistakes. And I don't think John Schneider
29:54
Speaker 5: is going to make a financial mistake this offseason to
29:58
Speaker 5: try to keep ken Walker at all cost. I think
30:01
Speaker 5: they're going to have a really difficult negotiation with him.
30:04
Speaker 5: And maybe that little exchange has nothing to do with it.
30:07
Speaker 5: Maybe it is that ken Walker's shy and those kind
30:11
Speaker 5: of situations make him uncomfortable. But it did kind of
30:14
Speaker 5: look like a snapshot of maybe this relationship isn't the
30:17
Speaker 5: best that it should be. With a running back coming
30:20
Speaker 5: off his best three weeks as a professional football player,
30:24
Speaker 5: entering free agency.
30:25
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, it's business. There's a business now that is
30:27
Speaker 6: kicking in the year, and the business up to this point,
30:32
Speaker 6: there's no way that Ken Walker's have been happy about it.
30:35
Speaker 6: I mean, he's got a job, he get drafted, he's
30:38
Speaker 6: been paid millions of dollars. But he was the twenty
30:41
Speaker 6: first highest paid player on the team this year. Was
30:45
Speaker 6: he higher importance level more than twenty one? I would
30:49
Speaker 6: say yes, most certainly down the stretch once his counterpart
30:53
Speaker 6: Zach Sharberney got hurt, he most certainly was a bigger
30:57
Speaker 6: deal than the twenty first best. Now that's part of
30:59
Speaker 6: the deal. You end up playing as a rookie and
31:02
Speaker 6: you gotta wait. But there was, like I said, there
31:04
Speaker 6: was a moment in time somewhere between his rookie season
31:08
Speaker 6: to now where he would have hoped that they would
31:12
Speaker 6: have acted on what they said right, which what they're
31:14
Speaker 6: saying is we love Ken Walker. He's our number one back.
31:17
Speaker 6: We believe he can be a home run here. We
31:18
Speaker 6: believe he can be one of the best in the league.
31:21
Speaker 6: But they never put their money where their mouth was.
31:22
Speaker 6: Because he hadn't been healthy, and he hadn't been he
31:26
Speaker 6: hadn't really looked like he was coming to fruition and
31:28
Speaker 6: being the guy that his talent projected him to be.
31:32
Speaker 6: And so yeah, I guarantee there's some hard feelings there. Now,
31:36
Speaker 6: does he want to be back and run it back
31:38
Speaker 6: and think he went into the.
31:39
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Theyawks?
31:40
Speaker 6: I bet he does to be of his teammates, But
31:42
Speaker 6: he's going to make a business decision, and right now
31:45
Speaker 6: I think he's had a spoonful of the business fed
31:47
Speaker 6: to him from John Schneider in the Seahawks that probably
31:50
Speaker 6: doesn't taste all that good. And so it's gonna you're
31:53
Speaker 6: gonna have to get into a negotiation with him, and
31:57
Speaker 6: he's probably gonna go, well, I'm gonna go see what
31:58
Speaker 6: everybody else is interested in doing. And I don't think
32:01
Speaker 6: they're probably going to meet at the same place.
32:03
Speaker 3: We did get a text on the Tacoma Dodge text
32:06
Speaker 3: line saying that ken Walker actually did post about it
32:08
Speaker 3: on his Instagram yesterday, and so he posted John Schneider
32:12
Speaker 3: saying that, and it says must have been the liquor
32:14
Speaker 3: he drinking, because I never said that Beep and it's
32:18
Speaker 3: laughing crying mode, and then it shows him in his
32:21
Speaker 3: face and he's like smiling and shaking his head.
32:23
Speaker 1: Like I didn't do that, So you drunk idiot.
32:27
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, that's exactly the look. Oh this guy is
32:30
Speaker 4: drug idiot. That's exactly the look. And he's like, oh,
32:32
Speaker 4: come on, man, I didn't do that.
32:34
Speaker 5: Well, you know, if you're one ken Walker back then,
32:36
Speaker 5: I hope that those are tiers of laughter that he's
32:39
Speaker 5: posting and not like this guy's a fool.
32:43
Speaker 4: No, no, no, So it seems like it's in good good.
32:45
Speaker 1: We'll see.
32:46
Speaker 5: I'll just you know, just to wrap up the conversation.
32:48
Speaker 5: We're gonna have this conversation a lot over the course
32:51
Speaker 5: of the next month leading up to free agency. I
32:53
Speaker 5: don't feel good about it. I don't think he's going
32:55
Speaker 5: to be back. I don't think he's going to end
32:56
Speaker 5: up being a Sea Yawk next year. I think a
32:58
Speaker 5: team out there with more mo, more cap space, and
33:01
Speaker 5: more desperation is going to end up signing ken Walker
33:04
Speaker 5: to a contract that John Schneider just can't go to.
33:07
Speaker 5: That's what I think is going to happen. And then
33:09
Speaker 5: we'll start the process either through free agency or the
33:11
Speaker 5: draft trying to find his replacement. But boy, if he
33:14
Speaker 5: has played his last game as a Sea Hawk, it
33:16
Speaker 5: was a doozy Super Bowl MVP. All right, don't forget
33:20
Speaker 5: final twelfth Man round table coming up at eight o'clock.
33:24
Speaker 5: We've already been given a little bit of a surprise
33:26
Speaker 5: with the twelfth man round table, So that's coming your
33:30
Speaker 5: way at eight. With the Hugh and Greg coming up next,
33:32
Speaker 5: we're gonna squeeze in a quick Sam Darnold conversation before
33:35
Speaker 5: the roundtable begins on KJR.
33:53
Speaker 1: Pardon you and Greg.
33:54
Speaker 5: Gonna join us at eight o'clock here this morning, our
33:57
Speaker 5: final twelfth Man round table of the c comes your way.
34:01
Speaker 5: Mike Sando also joining us for the final official time
34:04
Speaker 5: of this college football season. I know a lot of
34:07
Speaker 5: exciting things to discuss, and yet a lot of goodbyes,
34:10
Speaker 5: a lot of sadness.
34:11
Speaker 6: Yeah, but hey, it went longer than it normally would has.
34:17
Speaker 1: Right.
34:17
Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, it finished better than every
34:20
Speaker 6: other market in the country.
34:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, we milked it for everything it was worth.
34:24
Speaker 6: Yeah, So I appreciate what you had instead of worrying
34:27
Speaker 6: about what you don't have.
34:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, right, you're right. Still parting is such a
34:31
Speaker 1: sweet sorrow. Yep. Fortunately we have baseball season, dude, disrect
34:35
Speaker 1: that's right.
34:36
Speaker 5: It's Chuck Buckets Ashley with you. But a twelve man
34:39
Speaker 5: round table comes your way at eight o'clock, plus your
34:41
Speaker 5: cash word as well. And something that we haven't discussed
34:44
Speaker 5: as we've been discussing the parade and the success of
34:48
Speaker 5: the parade all day long. And you know we are
34:50
Speaker 5: going to take a left turn into baseball season. Our
34:52
Speaker 5: spring training coverage starts on Monday. But you know everybody's
34:56
Speaker 5: got football on their minds and there's no question about that.
35:00
Speaker 5: And we have not had a say, we haven't had
35:02
Speaker 5: our daily Sam Darnold conversation yet. And I'll tell you
35:05
Speaker 5: this for and smart people warned us of this at
35:10
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl last week. Yeah, he wins the game,
35:14
Speaker 5: and it really has. I mean they're like wind up
35:19
Speaker 5: toys critics out there that can't just admit that they're wrong.
35:23
Speaker 5: It really has turned into yeah, but he can't win
35:26
Speaker 5: two in a row.
35:27
Speaker 1: Guarantee you that it.
35:29
Speaker 5: Really has turned into It really has turned into yeah,
35:34
Speaker 5: but can you win more than one with a quarterback
35:37
Speaker 5: that's not a Hall of Fame caliber quarterback? I even
35:43
Speaker 5: heard when I went on with Vegas. I heard, you're
35:46
Speaker 5: not Yeah, Donald's not even one of the top nine
35:49
Speaker 5: quarterbacks in the NFC. That's what I heard in an
35:53
Speaker 5: interview that I agreed to participate in on Las Vegas Radio.
35:58
Speaker 5: So no, anybody that thought there, Sam Darnold shut up
36:02
Speaker 5: his critics. Nope, they've just spun it differently. They cannot
36:05
Speaker 5: admit they were wrong. Well, that's why I still got
36:08
Speaker 5: the big scarlet D. Because some people apparently are going
36:11
Speaker 5: to need to be slapped on the back with a
36:14
Speaker 5: big They're gonna.
36:15
Speaker 6: Have to take the D. And I don't understand it.
36:18
Speaker 6: I really don't. I mean, the guy had really had
36:22
Speaker 6: one bad game. He had some other games that maybe
36:25
Speaker 6: ended up being closer than they could have been or
36:28
Speaker 6: should have been because of turnovers, fumbles in the occasional
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Speaker 6: other interception. But I'm pretty sure he won seventeen out
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Speaker 6: of twenty games, seventeen out of twenty, and he won
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Speaker 6: the most important ones with zero turnovers, with just absolute
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Speaker 6: whether it's not high fly in statistical games like in
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Speaker 6: the Super Bowl or the best team that they played
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Speaker 6: the third time they played them, that he had thrown
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Speaker 6: five or six picks against the Rams in the biggest
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Speaker 6: game of the season, go and blow for blow with
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Speaker 6: Matt Stafford and winning. Now, mind you, I think that
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Speaker 6: the biggest part of the biggest discrepancy and better team
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Speaker 6: is Seattle's defense was better than every other defense they played. Yeah,
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Speaker 6: so you didn't have to carry it, you didn't have
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Speaker 6: to be Patrick Mahomes or you didn't have to do
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Speaker 6: that necessarily most of the season. But when it was
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Speaker 6: called upon, when you needed to, he did it. And
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Speaker 6: so it's just haters. It's just haters that apparently don't
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Speaker 6: like gingers and they just can't get off of their
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Speaker 6: high horse of Wow, I was really wrong with that,
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Speaker 6: you know, And it's commendable. If you can, then good
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Speaker 6: for you. We're not supposed to be perfect in our profession,
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Speaker 6: like whatever guesses or you know, whatever prognostication we give out,
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Speaker 6: we're not supposed to be perfect. But it's okay to
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Speaker 6: just admit, yeah, I was wrong with that one. Yeah,
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Speaker 6: his beginning of his career wasn't very good, and so
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Speaker 6: you have room for doubt. It's okay to have doubt,
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Speaker 6: but for you to just stick to it because you
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Speaker 6: just are unable to recognize or admit. I guess people
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Speaker 6: can get better in their twenties at things.
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Speaker 1: I've been wrong before.
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Speaker 4: It's almost once.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I had I was to seventy seventy three.
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Speaker 6: I thought that I hated the feet everything. I thought
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Speaker 6: that I sat in something wet and I actually had
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Speaker 6: peed in my pants.
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Speaker 1: Nineteen seventy three. I was wrong about that. Since then,
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Speaker 1: haven't been a job. You weren't even born in nineteen
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Speaker 1: seventy three. Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 4: It's almost though, like people don't understand.
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Speaker 3: It's a team sport, and it takes the team and
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Speaker 3: the coaches and everybody to do their job in order
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Speaker 3: to have a successful team that can win a Super Bowl.
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Speaker 4: And your role might not.
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Speaker 3: Be to be the gunslinger that's, you know, throwing it
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Speaker 3: fifty yards down the field. Every you know, every kind
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Speaker 3: of it is a gun slinger, right, But it might
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Speaker 3: not be that every drive.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, so it.
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Speaker 3: Might be that some of the time, and then it
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Speaker 3: might be, you know, just be safe, let's do these
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Speaker 3: little dump off passes, let's do this, let's run the ball.
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Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of different game plans depending
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Speaker 3: on who your plane, and it all has to come
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Speaker 3: together and everybody has to play their part.
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Speaker 5: Well, whatever he's learned through his failures and his you know,
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Speaker 5: different experiences with different organizations and hopping around the league
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Speaker 5: and backing up this guy or being rushed to be
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Speaker 5: a starter here. And the seeing ghost comment, which just
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Speaker 5: continues to get misinterpreted by everyone. Everybody acts like he
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Speaker 5: said that because he was afraid on the field. As idiots,
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Speaker 5: It's an expression used by quarterbacks. It has nothing to
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Speaker 5: do with how you're using it out there. Yeah, all
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Speaker 5: of that that went with it has created the soup
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Speaker 5: that we have today. And yeah, I've said it often.
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Speaker 5: I keep getting accused by people out there of giving
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Speaker 5: him too much credit.
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Speaker 1: I'm not.
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Speaker 5: I'm not putting him on the top tier with Patrick
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Speaker 5: Mahomes and Josh Allen and Joe Burrow. He's not a
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Speaker 5: top tier quarterback. He's not going to be on the
39:56
Speaker 5: top tier of Mike Sando's quarterback tiers next year. But
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Speaker 5: he's going to be on the second and that's a
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Speaker 5: jump up from the third. And maybe maybe he didn't
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Speaker 5: have the right situation. Maybe he was a twenty year
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Speaker 5: old who got drafted in in the biggest market in football,
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Speaker 5: and didn't have the pieces around him that benefited and
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Speaker 5: inexperienced twenty year old quarterback who they threw onto the
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Speaker 5: field to try to save them. I mean, his head coach,
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Speaker 5: for goodness sake, in his second season was Adam Gaze.
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Speaker 5: Whoever's going to succeed under Adam Gaze? Yeah that guy, yeah, Adam, Yeah,
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Speaker 5: he now has Mike McDonald, for goodness sake, So yes,
40:41
Speaker 5: it's it took a little while for Sam Donald to realize,
40:44
Speaker 5: all right, this is what's cakes, this is what it takes.
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Speaker 5: But he started to realize that last year, and then
40:49
Speaker 5: this year an even better season, and we got a
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Speaker 5: Super Bowl champion quarterback. He's going to be back next
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Speaker 5: year and the year after and who knows how long
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Speaker 5: after that. All Right, twelve man round Tables next on
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