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- 0:01Plural construction, the renowned journalistic program of political analysis and current in its twentieth
- 0:08season, with the leadership of Fernando Mauri and a team of prestigious analysts.
- 0:14Listen to it on radio train topic our President of the Argentine Nation, Dr
- 0:33Rabriero Mirey good President Hello. To all there is no stabilization plan, not
- 0:41good, but the delay to change and here there is a problem of other
- 0:45or exchange rate. It is impossible to achieve the zero deficit in the twenty
- 0:49- four thousand. Good. It' s very little motasia. There is
- 0:53already a lot of equatoria, but you are not liberal. There were taxes
- 0:58how about the province no, but it was known one more three hundred sixty
- 1:03five times and it gives me three sixty s not being able if there is
- 1:07no video and there is not you that invited me to Federo, you noodle
- 1:10Cotuk. They want to know how the economy is going to grow, it
- 1:12' s going to go up like a diver' s fart. But there
- 1:14' s no anchor. Well, because there' s no comprehensive plan.
- 1:18But you should set the path. This is not a liberal government because it
- 1:23did not release the drug. Not because there' s a changed appreciation.
- 1:25I have a changing appreciation, but mouth- face freedom that shrapnels my friends,
- 1:38very but very good afternoon to which we are in plubal construction closing the
- 1:41week, uh, because tomorrow I speria. So tomorrow we' ll rest,
- 1:44rest the station, rest. We are with Juan as always the air
- 1:47with Silvia in the preproduction, closing the week, as I tell them to
- 1:53see how we are in financial matters. He had asked for a good jump
- 1:56with Liqui and he kept it four ninety- five. Overcome the Blue,
- 1:59which I should do there habitually that I' m on top of the whole
- 2:00Lick thing. In terms of financials it is in one thousand three hundred thirty
- 2:05- four. The CSL, the free one drops just five pesos. It
- 2:07' s in a thousand three hundred. These moments of trading the rich country
- 2:12goes down to little, zero fourteen is down from 1, 400. It
- 2:15' s in a thousand three eighty- four. The Church supported the work
- 2:19of the takers in the middle of the controversy with the government and says it
- 2:21went here at 4 PM with seventeen degrees. That would be nice enough.
- 2:25More threat to Rain. The sun came up here in Federal Capital. I
- 2:29even enjoy the swearing- in of my daughter Valentina, Mauri of fourth grade,
- 2:32as well in the polo field, with the presence of the army and
- 2:37so on. The truth is pretty poorly organized and the boys, letting themselves
- 2:40be as they' re doing early, were two three hours standing, two
- 2:44and a half hours an hour that I don' t know if the city
- 2:46is being run. I don' t know if it has anything to do
- 2:47with this. The army, but it' s pretty poorly organized and it
- 2:53' s a subway lighthouse. He pulled up and that line will be affected.
- 2:54I remember it starts part of five or six o' clock in the
- 2:57afternoon. Attempted Lamia disqualified from s s classifying an intelligence report that confirms the
- 3:01responsibility of anger well and there we go in a program where we are,
- 3:06as I say closing the week, in a time of surreality. We will
- 3:08listen to the economic program of friend Alejandro Rosman and right now I will greet
- 3:13our first guest. This is the national deputy Sergio Acevedo. I' m
- 3:17looking for him there fast. I' m modern on Wikipedia to contextualize that
- 3:22a little bit. You, Sergio Acedido, are a politician. Sergio Edgardo
- 3:24is an Argentine politician for tenecient to the judicialism game Governor of Santa Cruz from
- 3:29December 10th to his resignation on March 16th two thousand six and formerly vice governor.
- 3:35Today I am interested in the party We are energy to renew Santa Cruz
- 3:39and today, as I said, is national legislator. Sergio. Good afternoon,
- 3:43Fernando, hello, how' s it going. Good afternoon, Fernando,
- 3:46a pleasure, a greeting to the entire audience. Thank you very much
- 3:50for this opportunity to communicate, to chat for a while, not something other.
- 3:54Thank you for the kindness to take care of us. Sergio, well,
- 4:00how are we in Congress? Let' s say there are announcements,
- 4:03ollo, we talked off with you also in the sense that the officialism pretends
- 4:10that the 27th is already in the enclosure. Let' s say what the
- 4:12Senate gave you back. How you see a little bit in the panorama there
- 4:15of law bases and so on. Sergio, there is an intention on the
- 4:23part of the official leads, both of the civic coalition and of the group
- 4:35of legislators that coordinates or conducts MiguelÁngel Piquetto, and even of radicalism,
- 4:45to insist with the original sanction by deputies. But, punctually, I believe
- 4:51in radicalism. The vote the senators took seems to me to have added tension
- 5:00in the last few hours, which, if anything, would indicate that the
- 5:11government will have a majority, but I think it will be very tight in
- 5:15the event that radicalism does not vote uniformly on sanctions. We' re talking
- 5:25about a hundred and forty- four votes. We' re already talking a
- 5:30little higher than the beyond that' s about the present. But it'
- 5:36s not going to be an easy vote, but we' ll have to
- 5:44see what' s going on next week, which is when the commissions meet,
- 5:47the blocks meet and it' s decided what the march of this situation,
- 5:55this law, is going to be like. Or even yesterday, I
- 5:59think it was good to correct a statement or some clarification from the senators of
- 6:03the recal university effectively asking that it go in line with what it modified treated
- 6:09the Senate and not that it become as a closed book and start which deputies
- 6:13ratify to what was originally. No, yes, yes, yes, but
- 6:17finally, there is also the Mayans statement saying well, if you know that
- 6:28what you change here or it will not change anything. But beyond that,
- 6:39I obviously have a position on it. I think the question to discuss is
- 6:51what role the Chamber of Deputies or the Congress of the Nation will play in
- 6:58the coming days, because the analysis of the current situation is broken. It
- 7:06is part of a budget or a fallacy, because the executive power is legislating,
- 7:19it has all the legislation through what is nebu, that is, it
- 7:26is not true Congress or with a law that comes from the age of gennerism,
- 7:30when they thought they were going to be eternal the twenty- six hundred
- 7:33twenty- two that it regulated. It is not true in an incredible way
- 7:45that if they did not repeal both chambers, the neu chambers would have force
- 7:49sine day, which compiles against a situation, that is, against the spirit
- 7:55of the Constitution. I was lucky at this. We presented ourselves with a
- 8:01project and I was fortunate enough to talk about it a lot with a constituent
- 8:09of the size of Dr Enrique Paisado, who, in addition to the constituent
- 8:20' s diary, told us about the debate within the reform of the Commission
- 8:28that he dictated. Finally, the Commission revises and, well, away from
- 8:33the spirit of twenty- six hundred and twenty- two, but this is
- 8:37because under this legal umbrella all the rules that we all know, from which
- 8:46the Civil Code, the book law, is amended, were intended to amend
- 8:50the Penal Code. Finally, any situation that really has little to do with
- 8:56constitutionality and respect for intitudes, which should not be such a balladin issue,
- 9:03but should be an important issue because so much legal certainty is invoked. But
- 9:11you start by ignoring the Constitution. Then it is very difficult for that speech
- 9:18to become credible and, in addition, this whole question of legal uncertainty.
- 9:22In addition, for example, it leads us in what is the riggy to
- 9:28go all the questions, all the controversies to discuss the cyad. So it
- 9:35' s like we Argentines are recognizing that we have a justice that doesn'
- 9:41t have any standards of respect or security, because if the nation itself refuses
- 9:50to submit an issue it is so important to national strubunal jurisdictions, ignoring the
- 9:58rich history it has in Argentina. In that, since I remember, the
- 10:01Attorney General matienzo for here good that the previous governments have also done the same.
- 10:09The truth is that the situation is very complex and I am very saddened.
- 10:15It will be when of the officialdoms it is said well, it goes
- 10:18more than six months of government and we were not given good. Now yes,
- 10:20it will come out, but until now there was a law on the
- 10:24part of the opposition. What is answered, let' s say this,
- 10:30the historical sense of punctuating powers and other delegated powers It seems like this in
- 10:35some sense and I want to put myself on the other side not even the
- 10:37position I have. But I say like or a little bit the devil and
- 10:39to enrich the dialogue, what is said to an official, what is answered.
- 10:43That officialism is almost like victimizing itself and in six months we were not
- 10:48given a law is that one could first say that they have done what we
- 10:56said, just that they have made of the teu is a food in fact
- 11:05that is having effect on issues such as, for example, in the matter
- 11:11of locations, that we still do not know what the final result is.
- 11:13But the basic law remember that it was not a single law were hundreds of
- 11:20laws. That' s the big answer. That this is the great answer.
- 11:22I think there' s something you can do. You don' t
- 11:24have to send a rule. Five rules sent six hundred left three hundred or
- 11:28hundreds and a peak, but they sent a huge mammoth, exactly then,
- 11:33because in addition, everyone asked for the tax question, on the one hand,
- 11:39the question of the regime of inversions, on the other. But we
- 11:39are talking about amending the law on administrative procedures so that we have a dimension
- 11:48of myself I do not think it is an obstacle to the functioning of the
- 11:54current law on administrative procedure for a good government or to make a transcendent change
- 12:01in social relations or in the objectives and political purposes that the present government intends.
- 12:09When you said Sergio, the question is to debate, suppose approval.
- 12:13They shared the law 27th June 28th, end of June of the basic law
- 12:16if the positive package, the question of beating is what role does Congress have?
- 12:20Well I ask myself, what role according to Sergio Acevedo, a national
- 12:24opposition deputy for Santa Cruz, belongs to Congress. Let' s say.
- 12:26It seems to me that there is one element, a key issue in the
- 12:33discussion of the budget, that is, the mother of the sheep, the
- 12:39budgetary discussion, the law of the EF. And that' s basically where
- 12:43the beans are counted. Speaking of good romance and we are talking about whether,
- 12:50indeed, the Government' s intentions are translated into true amounts of budgetary
- 12:58appropriations. It seems to me that if the Government is going to have what
- 13:03bias it will have, what it will be with the relationship with the provinces,
- 13:07with public investment, how the issue of debt, that is, it
- 13:11seems to me that there are issues that are central to it, and in
- 13:16this I think that, moreover, within what the discussion of Argentina' s
- 13:22budget has for me a final question if we want to talk about a better
- 13:26country, which is a different country, a country with more social peace,
- 13:31with more security, with more blood, which is to address the issue of
- 13:41poverty, which is not only one, it is not just a question of
- 13:48income distribution, but the coordination of the various national, municipal and provincial jurisdictions
- 13:52in the field of education, health, communication and food. If I think
- 13:58it is a huge task that we owe ourselves and that we must prioritize it
- 14:07in order to understand that Argentina, which we know and cannot do so.
- 14:13In fact, there is fifty percent of poverty believing. But that cannot continue
- 14:20in these terms, because it seems to me to be unacceptable from any point
- 14:26of view. And besides, it is possible to change this state of affairs.
- 14:33The sercho, speaking of the role of Deputy Cell Acá, is looking
- 14:37for files. Well, I don' t have that much memory. On
- 14:37March 14, 1970, he did not obtain the approval of the Senate.
- 14:41Not that you talked about passing that three, that of that belief that is
- 14:45nerist, that they stay forever. Then it is so obstructed, it is
- 14:48obstructed to decommission a denebu imposed by the executive. How is the subject of
- 14:52Members, because now it appears frisade. It will be that Peronism, generism,
- 14:56fails to generate consensus, achieve more, because for now? I say
- 15:01that you are a Member of Parliament who is here, lives there in the
- 15:05Palace of Dneu. The Members who are the other House that is with you.
- 15:05In any case, I' d have to take her out so that
- 15:09the whole thing would fall for now is as I don' t know expressed,
- 15:13frozen, nothing happens, no yes, it' s not fried.
- 15:16And there is one reason that is invoked, that is to sanction precisely the
- 15:22agenda of the basic law And this, in a timely manner, I can
- 15:31speak with property as to whether it is with me, I spoke with Lilita
- 15:37Carrio, with whom I have an old friendship from beyond two thousand and well,
- 15:50among the topics that I spoke, for me had a priority and an
- 15:56urgency the approach of the seventy that of neu seventy Barra twenty- three and
- 16:03that I believe that I understood that the priority was to solve the question of
- 16:04the basic law. I believe that after this law, the Chamber of Deputies
- 16:10must be approached. It has to board definitely. I am also not very
- 16:18sure that a majority will be achieved, which would be very institutionally. It
- 16:26would be a very disheartening message and also encouraging for the Government, for all,
- 16:37for society. In other words, it seems to me that a government
- 16:38should be run by a neu with that scope, without the requirements laid down
- 16:45in the Constitution being met. I believe that when the Government does not function
- 16:52well, all the institutional functioning has been recently completed. And it also seems
- 17:00to me that the biggest problem that politics has today, which is to regain
- 17:04confidence in the society of its institutions and its leaders. Letting things go or
- 17:14putting in the carpet vascule doesn' t work out. So I think this
- 17:21is going to be so And by the way we are also several who have
- 17:30submitted draft amendments to the law that regulates the laws of Neulla and the delegates,
- 17:40and there are already different deputies who have signed for the urgent treatment of
- 17:48those bills that Neus will have a functioning again according to what the Constitution establishes.
- 17:53Let' s hope that happens and let' s work so that,
- 18:00so that it happens to see short and at the sergio foot and thanking them
- 18:04already these minutes you said I took no here. I am not sure that
- 18:06a majority is achieved, that is to say, as you see it difficult
- 18:10for you to definitely get down after the Senate vote that happens the same thing
- 18:12as there is a majority in deputies to take down the neu vote In principle,
- 18:19I understood well, exactly well you in terms that you had so much
- 18:23talking to bases, I rule out that you will vote against it. Let
- 18:23us say as author in the first instance, that is, and the position
- 18:30of the senators of Santa Cruz, who talked a lot about obtaining them,
- 18:33that they were not in the did not appear to vote. You work together
- 18:36with them. Not so much, it' s not their matches. I
- 18:40mean no, no, no. No. I talk to them. They
- 18:45were promptly interested in Carambia de Josema, with the issue of increasing mining royalties
- 18:53and all of the issues that were sanctioned in the Senate. That' s
- 19:07what they told me. I have a pending talk that wasn' t given
- 19:11for the day you voted, because then well, Chok traveled south. This
- 19:15is why I went for a long week, but I think Friday we'
- 19:21re going to meet to clean up everything that happened. Good. Suppose that
- 19:26because the deputy sanctioned a new retirement readjustment, that at some point post-
- 19:33law base is probably consolidated in the Senate. Suppose in my law he does
- 19:37what good we all hope and he announced vetoing this for a subject again.
- 19:41You must listen to the blame to the caste, higher spending, etcetera,
- 19:45etcetera. First, what is the next reading of that veto and second,
- 19:51how much chance is there of getting the thirds as many in one House with
- 19:55the other on the downside as the high, the deputies as in the Senate
- 19:57to reverse that presidential event. I do not think that the two tercilos are
- 20:03not here to insist on where they are in Members, 11 in Members.
- 20:07I can give you faith or sign something with certain. Versibility is the Chamber
- 20:15of Deputies where it sells perfect, but we will have to wait for the
- 20:25events. I mean, we' re done, that' s what'
- 20:32s under discussion in the tax package after you didn' t approve profits.
- 20:37He says nothing good to them. That is why we are in a box
- 20:41of pandora, because of a very particular situation also of the integration of the
- 20:48chambers and the functioning of the different groupings and political blocks inside. Then I
- 20:56don' t think it' s the situation today. The only thing is
- 21:02true is that there is that half penalty that next week is going to address
- 21:10the issue of the basic law that there is a fiscal balance achieved with a
- 21:18strong adjustment. Okay. Yes, I think I can tell that you know,
- 21:22what is surprising is the excessive increase also in the foreign debt contracted by
- 21:30this government, which seems surprising to me that important means ignore a question so
- 21:42crucial for the functioning of the Argentine economy and, obviously, for what debt
- 21:48means is not true. How would Javier Mileizer' s government qualify, that
- 21:56I caved and President Miley' s leadership to six months not seen already.
- 22:02I think it is an agreement that he is a President who is very clear
- 22:07on the question of the power that exercises him without limits. I think there
- 22:18' s an overdoing. I believe that the President does not eat glass and,
- 22:26moreover, I believe that he has a support for what is the great
- 22:36capital and the media issues that allow him to develop that action as well.
- 22:44Or that role is healthy. It' s very clear this seems to me.
- 22:49Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah? Yeah. He is based on
- 22:52public opinion, which seems to be at least already balanced, having not lost
- 22:56some points of the bantal. It seems to be mite or almost like it.
- 23:00Not fifty- eight or fifty- five or fifty- fifty, as
- 23:03some give him are fingers. I don' t think there' s one.
- 23:07Maybe it' s six months. I believe to see. I believe
- 23:15that inflation is something absolutely destructive and that someone who achieves a low inflation and
- 23:25that, bet that his message is going to continue this way, generates a
- 23:33great expectation and a great hope in society that, at least, that is
- 23:38a permanent and constant achievement and that, moreover, it strikes those who have
- 23:45the least chance of defending themselves. So, I think that' s your
- 23:49big asset today, and what gives you political sustainability and what somehow explains what
- 23:55you' re reporting right to opinion polls. I believe that it is not
- 24:10only an economic issue, but that it is a very, very harmful cultural
- 24:17fact that affects, I repeat, those who have the least, the most
- 24:21vulnerable. So, it is not true that someone who gets to this inflation
- 24:29rate generates an expectation to deny what can' t be done in politics is
- 24:33to deny reality. And it seems to me that that is a fact of
- 24:40the unquestionable reality when you say it is a President who has very clear the
- 24:44question of power, who exercises without limits and masters that plays well in the
- 24:47sense the mirror of what was the last management of the duo in permanent fights.
- 24:52Cristina, Alberto, Alberto, Cristina, I think it' s a
- 24:57little bit. Argentina' s history and the containment system make people expect a
- 25:03president to send, to drive, who, as the Spaniards say, to
- 25:14send someone, even if he sends bad, but good. And if you
- 25:18compare it to Alberto, who was a very timid government, unfortunately, the
- 25:29comparisons are odious, but the differences are remarkable. Of course, I don
- 25:33' t have much time and I don' t want to steal so much
- 25:37from her long and very rich talks and I would like to commit ourselves to
- 25:41doing it again in some good time. But I' ve got some Tumists
- 25:42waiting I wouldn' t want to leave out about to see. I mean,
- 25:45we' re talking about the possibility of a presidential bete to retiree.
- 25:48What will happen to other issues, for example, sometimes educational budget. In
- 25:52other words, there are other questions of the opposition that sometimes seem dialogist,
- 25:56but the one in the middle, the despichetto or which civic cleavage, sometimes
- 25:59radical, etc, can give another blow to the government beyond the retirement issue.
- 26:03I don' t know if the Miley government would veto again, but
- 26:06I say that it thinks it can happen, it can be generated. So
- 26:08to put it brutally more presidential vetoes at the initiative where the opposition, positive
- 26:14or alquinerist, agrees again and that, I know with those from the center
- 26:18who come and go, we play a little for the government, a little
- 26:21for the other side. It seems to me to have something to do with
- 26:23the agenda. I mean like that. It' s very difficult. It
- 26:27is not true to say that because someone makes a recomposition of eight percent of
- 26:34a month with having a retirement pension or trying to improve the teaching salary or
- 26:44the financing of education is part of the caste takes away from him, it
- 26:48is not true the central argument to the President. So I think that gives
- 26:56the possibility for these issues to move forward in Congress, me in both deputies
- 27:00and senators, and for the government to pay attention. The executive must pay
- 27:07attention and have another type of attitude or other type of conduct, as in
- 27:14fact it is having, that is, the decision to be frank. There
- 27:22is a healthy and pragmatic turn. Let' s say not exactly with the
- 27:26rats, not how you have felt, when the President addresses the legislators and
- 27:30so on, I get some caste. Let' s say like rats really
- 27:34insisting on this by sorting it out with drawings and so on, how does
- 27:38a legislator like you feel, that I presume, I say it to the
- 27:41listeners, let' s say of the few. Really and this is not
- 27:42to praise you, because because you give me the note and because we have
- 27:47a minimum of an honest out- of- the- air relationship with progressive
- 27:52ideas. By calling it that, we' re gonna go in and talk.
- 27:52By the end I want to resurrect a little bit about Peronism, which
- 27:55you also normally integrate. But how does Sergio cvero feel I repeat. I
- 27:59don' t put them, I can' t for anyone, but whom
- 28:02I consider Fernando Mauri, he considers a legislator, an integral guy, how
- 28:04he is considered when they call him a rat, for example, good.
- 28:07I think it offends the one who wants, but it can be one.
- 28:15Obviously, one does not feel comfortable with an offense of that nature which means
- 28:23forgiveness, that he who wants, but that he who can, that is
- 28:26when one fits, because putting the Sayo wants to tell me and not you
- 28:29no more, yes, yes no or it is to me no, no,
- 28:33no, no, no. I move a hair that fucks you,
- 28:34for example, already man, but this is the personal thing. Yes,
- 28:38what happens that this is a political category that is also true, Fernando who,
- 28:45in view of the results of the Argentine institutional political system, which has
- 28:52brought about fifty percent poverty and a narrative axis, obviously, anyone has authorization
- 28:56to disqualify the functioning and the results, either on one side or on the
- 29:03other, or with the levels of indebtedness, seems to me, with the
- 29:07results of education matter that is. I think it' s good or it
- 29:15' s one. You can' t ignore the ability of my law to
- 29:19characterize this situation and put adjectives on it or name it this way. Yes,
- 29:27in personal and moral terms, the truth doesn' t affect me,
- 29:33because I don' t think I have to prove anything to him about my
- 29:37life. On the contrary, perhaps it would serve as an example of some
- 29:41conduct that I have had that he surely does not have. I' ve
- 29:45been recording even a video teller for the past few hours. They' ve
- 29:47done some, some minimal short conceptualization saying see, clarifying vieds. This is
- 29:52not a coup d'état or an attempt at a coup, nor is
- 29:56it returning to a dictatorship, not balancing a little as many of you as
- 30:00there are groups, nor are there terrorist groups. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 30:03yeah, yeah, yeah, well, you' re tight. And
- 30:07what' s the point of playing that thing that' s dangerous? I
- 30:10don' t say to see Cristina Pernce also at the moment they kidnap the
- 30:14goals, they don' t banalize. I say worrying or dangerous in social
- 30:18terms, but I say why does Milady say these things Burrin, not talk
- 30:22to discourage social protest? For example, why do you stop people apparently practically
- 30:25innocent or street vendors beyond that there seems to be a terry girl who learned
- 30:29bicycle fire. He' s not a terrorist, but he' ll have
- 30:33to respond and I' ll respond. I wish, the one who makes
- 30:33them pays. In that feeling it is fair, but I say what this
- 30:36scenario is for to discourage social protest for the next day. I mean,
- 30:40uh, I, in fact, see tomorrow there' s a march.
- 30:41I had doubts, because I am not a marcher, but there is a
- 30:45march for an interesting topic or another capable educational march that I say and I
- 30:48don' t know if I was going, I didn' t see go
- 30:51with ten- year- old mija, that maybe if this didn' t
- 30:52happen I could go. The idea is that or you don' t think
- 30:55so, yes. I believe that there is certainly a way to excelerate the
- 30:59or the right to this sarse and protest. That is clear, beyond that
- 31:06it is not true that protest is or is not an effective or valid method
- 31:12of political construction entirely. And I take him to questions about Peronism with this
- 31:22political thing, yes, yes, but to see the perionism or that nerism
- 31:26is basing itself a lot on this and let' s make the loin on
- 31:30the street and if it falls, if we can turn the session not validate
- 31:33a little bit of not knowing if quinerism, I say let' s use
- 31:37part of this mess of the street. I' m telling you, it
- 31:40' s the entire fifteen of them, not least because they look almost like
- 31:42a police service. But I don' t know, it' s not
- 31:45checked. But I say he seems to use a little outside to hump him,
- 31:49from inside to hump the sheets with Macria a few years ago. It
- 31:52doesn' t seem like journalism is about quinerism, mixing the outside with the
- 31:56inside to muddle the thing. No. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 32:01I mean, at least this is what comes up. But that'
- 32:07s why I was telling you that this has to do with what is the
- 32:15political construction that must be done against a certain government that you don' t
- 32:20share. What is the political construction? You still consider yourself a Peronist,
- 32:24obviously, and that' s a feeling to me. Peronism, moreover political,
- 32:30of memarte, of loving its doctrine and defending it. But I think
- 32:36there' s no such thing as self- criticism. The first thing that
- 32:38is indispensable is a self- criticism, because things have not happened for the
- 32:45sake of the holy spirit, that is, here there are those responsible for
- 32:52measures, for government, for conduct What does not exist is a framework of
- 33:01critical cars, not only of the Justicialist Party, but of Peronism as a
- 33:05whole. Here it is that he, that is to see today, Peronism
- 33:10or justicialism, as he wants to call it, has no basis, that
- 33:15is, he does not have his project of which country we want. I
- 33:20think we need to redefine that. There is a new scenario, moreover,
- 33:25since the Constitution of ninety- four, which is that the provinces are the
- 33:31ones that have dominion over natural resources. And that and the disappearance of the
- 33:38electoral college and all that, all that institutional architecture, has also to do
- 33:45with the functioning of Peronism. But I repeat in more programmatic terms. Peronism.
- 33:51It' s a self- criticism, it' s a reflection that
- 33:54' s not doing it. And this is what explains with a social picture
- 34:01like the one we have, that we are entering into a strong recession of
- 34:06increases in poverty, of the tariff, which is a scandalous thing. Escandalosa,
- 34:14with this tremendous offensive of big financial capital on the sectors of labour in
- 34:20the production of small businesses, seems to me that there is no answer.
- 34:28And there is no answer because there is basically no scope for discussion or self
- 34:35- getics. One of the letters the social media appearances of Cristina Fernández and
- 34:38even to a large extent, could to a large extent share agnostic soda now
- 34:43what they are going to rub from what and they will have reasons but you
- 34:46did some self- critical. You' ve got the dirty tail to talk
- 34:49about. No, and so is everything. But the other day there was
- 34:53a particular case in the Senate with I think the Tulio Senator tells the Senator
- 34:58from between the River that you have to ask for expulsion and Senator Trigo answers.
- 35:02They say good give it to me. Give me a chance to discuss
- 35:09this and see. Let' s see who has to stay and who has
- 35:13to go. But it is not separate, because it is not an issue
- 35:22that interests them or only interests the Peronists. It seems to me that Argentine
- 35:29society needs to rebuild a system of political parties because they are in the Constitution,
- 35:35among other things, and what is not happening. We see, it
- 35:40is not true the problems that radicalism, disappearance, a possible disappearance of the
- 35:46pro and the emergence of freedom progresses. In fact, yesterday was the Minister
- 35:58a thousand law En and the deputy Menen in subbut trying to organize in that
- 36:07province the party. Anyway I think that, but I say Peronism, it
- 36:16needs to give itself that self- criticism, it needs to be reorganized,
- 36:22it needs to have a program according to the new challenges. And because we
- 36:28don' t need pronorists. But fundamentally to be useful to Argentine society,
- 36:31totally Sergio, a taste, many thanks, good end, grateful taste,
- 36:37many thanks, God. For the weekend, thanks also the national deputy for
- 36:43Santa Cruz. Sergio has grown here in plobal construction in a long time and
- 36:46I think it is rich and interesting conceptual talks you will have already, besides
- 36:52the degradation, some textual ones, in social networks and so on, as
- 36:55always with these this good weather, I not only you. I think they
- 36:58come out not just talking to the legislator, to actors. Yes, I
- 37:01would like to know the President or some great minister who generally give notes to
- 37:07addicts, but I say one is small, but I don' t try
- 37:15to interview actors in that sense, not legislators, especially or intent, because
- 37:21they have the one that Hassette, because they have interests, because they are
- 37:22angry. If you criticize them in the air, well I go the other
- 37:24way, so in this case, as at some point, well it'
- 37:28s Federico this rani and I pull people out of the stick with which I,
- 37:30well, in measure I have nothing, I see it not in people
- 37:35I tell you if he joins a group of Whatsapp that I have important,
- 37:38where there are officials, some economist officials, some legislators, economists, political
- 37:45scientists that I manage information, they form people. It also gives everything from
- 37:46the program of other projects, my prodictics, so it does not force them
- 37:51to be echoes. I agree a lot to say conceptually being Peronist, he
- 37:55' s not being Peronist me, but he' s not being antipro right
- 38:00now, but I don' t get how I say to generate the lawmakers
- 38:01air, because nothing. When one disagrees, then they call them good.
- 38:04I can tell this note is that it was frontized. Well, not to
- 38:06the truth that you criticized him, you crossed him, it doesn' t
- 38:08come out like then directly critical. When I want praise, when I want
- 38:13and I take out some protagonist from time to time that in general, for
- 38:17a rich talk coinciding with us telling the whole how he is with Sergio Clero,
- 38:22who was the governor. He' s a governor and let' s
- 38:23remember to see done, we weren' t going to give the whole story
- 38:27with oil and hopefully we' ll talk again between a while as far as
- 38:30you see not for cheering in the game, for no one directs him to
- 38:30the Air. With him, the Air was to remind you that he was
- 38:34put by the Hitners as governor and resigned when they had some pressure on them
- 38:37for some corruptery issue. The man quit tell me who quit emptying Chacho Alvarez.
- 38:43That falsy resigns and what also originated institutional terms After a bit of paying
- 38:46for the fall of the rue, then who resigns his position or something to
- 38:51power in Argentina. Few in this case I wish there were more serious things
- 38:54with whom I repeat I do not join anything special. I don' t
- 38:59even know him in person. A minimum of a certain relationship. We go
- 39:02to the pause and after that I present I speak two minutes. If I
- 39:06am presenting the audios of Don Alejandro here in plural construction, I recommend that
- 39:12we say goodbye later until Tuesday. Thursday morning we have no program rest Juan
- 39:15de Cáncer Radio. We resolved on Tuesday and Wednesday also the vicho Juan of
- 39:19the production. We started three and a half a little before Wednesday to recover
- 39:22the average of tomorrow' s game to the pause. I see Carley bases
- 39:25and tax package. The government will exist with profits, personal property and priostizations.
- 39:30He says at this time to reject or liberal, but today what will
- 39:36be released this criminal in case of regaining this freedom, trying and living,
- 39:39the action of justice. The search for lords Lost boy. Unfortunately, the
- 39:45events are being reconstructed and the detainees attended a few minutes on conviction for having
- 39:51sexually accused them. Your niece is in the nation plus the issue of Perovich
- 39:53and the condemnation very strong. By carnal luck twenty- six. I'
- 39:59m sapping. The finals of cable TV news are accounted for. Relations between
- 40:01Russia and North Korea are flourishing. Chronicle TV says we all want to find
- 40:07the ambiguous and safe, safe and alive. I wish it seemed tough on
- 40:13the cops. After several days of beating, loose, innocent, locked up.
- 40:15What we' re going through is a country deranged from the deplorable Jorge
- 40:19Real. Or it' s one thing to do serious peodism to make mistakes
- 40:22government things. I reiterate my conceptualization of today is that there are neither terrorists
- 40:27nor coup d'état. Neither does Millay carry on a dictatorship. I
- 40:31mean Jorge Real. It' s no example of anything. It is another
- 40:34mercenary on the other side, because the marcelonares are on the other side on
- 40:37one side fifty and the other in the nation more of the two sides the
- 40:40same is almost Cristina kinnark Miller. Detainees are missing to clarify they are live
- 40:45from Corrientes province in twenty- four with the case of this boyolon. And
- 40:50finally, and Yavio was Tanda Tene says search great day six trends on the
- 40:55social network that I want to keep calling Twitter. I want to keep saying
- 41:00the Bird of the plus x and in the most I don' t like
- 41:04anything else. It is a trend, at least of what you want to
- 41:07see with this me what I follow Canosa, Rigi, etcetera, et cetera,
- 41:15et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Well the pause with Juan
- 41:16and I return to the field day of the Institute of Promotion of the Argentina
- 41:29Vaccination Meat in general, Villegas, province of Buenos Aires. How to measure
- 41:32the quality of meat by field. Wednesday, July 3. Establishment San Eduardo,
- 41:37Route thirty- three kilometer four hundred twenty free entry of limited quotas.
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- 42:08M two thousand twenty- two. Ferm de Fermaury two thousand twenty- two
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- 42:21our website handles triple approaches. Blogspot. All right, all right. Here.
- 42:32Let' s go here, let' s go car sixteen, forty
- 42:37- four, seventeen degrees and the sun came up. There was grease a
- 42:38while ago. I' m like crazy low and leave at the weekend,
- 42:44long that some things go out from home as usual, but well I could
- 42:46afford to go out and run over the sun and it' s really nice.
- 42:49Nineteen degrees, mail out half a rita, so good. That'
- 42:52s where we' re going to see I' ve already checked signals.
- 42:55I' m going to go over some other website. I' m going
- 43:00to see the nation, for example. You can tell what FM implies You
- 43:02think Argentina could return to international credit markets by the end of two thousand twenty
- 43:07- five. It' s a problem, because I say no to you.
- 43:09It' s not a very good move for the government. B the
- 43:12government needs reference and not Affines would need it to start to be quite early.
- 43:17Not well, we' ll see, we' ll see, we
- 43:21' ll see. That' s some major titles like the nation at this
- 43:27time. Another live brand is that it unites the opportunity in Atlanta and defines
- 43:32the team of the debut Copa América. It cost$ 1 5 billion.
- 43:38The details of the imposing stadium where the search for ball justice retards burgent.
- 43:44Intimate the Juadornos in the Court of the case. I know you' ll
- 43:45date the trial against Cristina Fernández de King and I' m going to go
- 43:52where Miley goes soon again, the man on the road who likes to travel
- 43:53no less badly to Madrid. Al País de Madrid. The government prepares a
- 43:59record public reading offer with 40, 000 new places for two thousand twenty-
- 44:02four. The King, on his tenth anniversary, I have girded myself and
- 44:06I always held fast to the Constitution and its values Puti Niking We saw it
- 44:12just intel no twenty- six a seilla in a pact that includes mutual defense
- 44:17in case of aggression. The Russian leader claims that in his first visit with
- 44:21the twenty- four- year- old North, which does not exclude military
- 44:25technical cooperation with this country, North Korea. Worrying, but good. They
- 44:29' re all like pictures of putting in the war with Ukraine, in their
- 44:35war ultimately, rather against the West and vice versa, of the West versus
- 44:42domp. Let me review some other little thing to see Yesterday we talked about
- 44:49a spicy program also with Daniel Keper with the judicial issue, the detainees and
- 44:54more hard Kper talking about the right state that they look like the right house.
- 45:00Carlos farra soft just a little bit what we talked about just with the
- 45:04Member of Parliament. My impression of Safar is that, first, deputy,
- 45:07the librarians will come out and then just the opposition in the Senate will sanction
- 45:10the update or the readership that Milay, as he said, will veto because
- 45:15it made him gain time. He' s already on a conceptual question.
- 45:16He will say Congress imposes a law and more spending on me and gives some
- 45:21supplemental increase to liabilities. This discussion may become abstract, but that depends on
- 45:24profits and personal goods that we travel through than the one that is in dispute,
- 45:29because regarding that nothing with deputies, because if they do not sanction him,
- 45:31that will go a greater adjustment and it would be impossible for him to
- 45:35go up to the retirees. And another thing that said this for is the
- 45:39leteo that is balanced, which is not little for me in the term of
- 45:43the harshest adjustment between positive image of negative image. This Miley, whose mamilla
- 45:47is the former, confirms that he will also travel to Paris on 26 July,
- 45:52for which he was invited by manorl mcron the inaugural ceremony of the Olympic
- 45:57Games. He does not say no that when I received an award I personally
- 46:01do well to the image of the Argentinas blah blah blah. Travel, travel
- 46:06with yours with our money without any doubt. Yesterday, in the interview more
- 46:10interviews stopping generous in the centers that threw him, Jonathan Vin Viane Junior said
- 46:16that his speech did this, his speech Andavos remember long ago made the right
- 46:22win in Europe. Many criticized my old Davos, but it was important.
- 46:25Look at the impact it had on Europe and how they turned the selection around.
- 46:29Well, he didn' t win ultra- right, he grew up,
- 46:31but from there he really did, when milé retweeted all the trolls that
- 46:36put him ultra- right. Win by my law, my law Contagia,
- 46:37Mile Box made us a good choice in Spain because for his great friends no,
- 46:42but good this one. They' re going to see some other temite
- 46:45over there before they listen to Rosman. As I say, let me see
- 46:51the inflation going up. He said he' d like to be here with
- 46:54us orlandos Correres. He' s going up in June and he estimates he
- 46:57' s going to be closer to the June number of a five or say
- 47:00than the May four. He gave her the Finite INDEC here, but he
- 47:04' s very optimistic. Next year I said thirty- five forty percent.
- 47:07I think that' s pretty moderate, but good. Orlando orlando freso do
- 47:09in plural construction. He said he was talking about thirty- five forty percent
- 47:15inflation. Nothing else for next year. Not good. I' ll say
- 47:21good- bye. My friends. Let' s hear as much as I
- 47:22can say that I can all go in if we don' t have to
- 47:25vote for Don Alejandro Rosman. I say goodbye, as I tell you there
- 47:28with Juan and Silvia, until next week I leave you with the economic parogram
- 47:31audios of Don Alejandro Romano by Bay. Thank you now how about this Alexander
- 47:39ro Fland in his victorious weekly column mind me not to make a comment.
- 47:45You are covered by the current government' s intervention regarding the economic and social
- 47:53project. Which are the most relevant likers, as it is compared with other
- 48:01alternatives that were given in the contemporary Argentine political time, The current economic project
- 48:08is very limited. Anyone can warn you by trying to read the profile of
- 48:15the initiatives are at stake and what was done in these six months. The
- 48:20Government proposed a very extensive first bill, where what was far from predominant was
- 48:27no, prohibition and destruction. It is not fundamentally no to the intervention of
- 48:37the State in the economy, but a non- exclusive, as never expressed
- 48:42in the economic and social hysteria of the country. At the most, when
- 48:46the civic military dictatorship of the seventy- sixth century announced via the Minister of
- 48:54Economy Martínez de Oz, on April 2, nine hundred and seventy- six,
- 48:59his direct address in synthesis. What he proposed was to reduce the State,
- 49:05reduce the State. Lema was to shrink into the state, it'
- 49:09s to enlarge the nation never to eliminate it. It is a bold idea
- 49:15of the present Government, especially of the President, which denotes an absolute ignorance
- 49:21of the role played by the State in the history of humanity and in any
- 49:25country no one would have happened to one thing, a similar statement never before
- 49:31less of a Head of State and a country that has almost fifty million inhabitants
- 49:37of an extension among the greatest of the earth, then not the State.
- 49:43It is the essential starting point. Moreover, the President has just defined it
- 49:49in an intervention that he had on an open day and I believe and was
- 49:52seen on television, he said that he is like a mole, that is,
- 49:59a figure that supposes the presence of someone similar to the animal that is
- 50:06advancing under the earth, correcting the material that confronts him. I' m
- 50:15hiding the mole' s function. He said it was his own to destroy
- 50:16the State, which is a cursed organization, as he promptly proposed, that
- 50:23it should be eliminated with a chainsaw. That, at least has the art
- 50:29of being visible. The mole is invisible the human eye in what he claims
- 50:34strictly, it is to destroy all State institutions, for example, the police,
- 50:40which destroys the State. Let' s always put that one on.
- 50:45You can go down the street and kill other people next to a police officer
- 50:50who exists and get him in jail if he doesn' t exist, they
- 50:53can do it with total impunity. It' s so ridiculous, so far
- 50:58from reality. The idea of one even doubting the mental quality that is planned
- 51:05by the one who enunciates it. How the State is going to be eliminated,
- 51:09who is going to provide justice, anyone by his own hand or a
- 51:15judge with a background to a code that marks him that may or may not
- 51:21be possible to be penalized. The second fundamental statement is in the meantime to
- 51:27prohibit the State from acting as I said before, but in economic terms,
- 51:30no state enterprise of any kind, no preggio control in times of speculative elevation
- 51:39of them. Everything is forbidden. Exactly. The opposite slogan, enunciating it
- 51:45in May and in the sixty- eight ban. Of course, this he
- 51:51never fulfilled for said he fulfilled it. He tried to implement it, but
- 51:55in actions, many concrete actions. It puts the state on a ban on
- 52:00many actions with crests. He proposed that the State should ban, but many
- 52:06of them should not be included in the basic bill' s incentive scheme for
- 52:13large investments The State would even give investors the dollars to take away from the
- 52:17country. When they export, the ban disappears. On the contrary, it
- 52:24empowers them and empowers them to bring used machines to replace new ones that can
- 52:30be obtained in the country and lowers their income tax. Among the fundamental prohibitions
- 52:37is the prohibition and social justice, which implies according to its libertarian interpretation,
- 52:44social justice is an anomaly because it brings out some that rewards others in function.
- 52:52It should be pure and exclusive of the market without any real interference not
- 53:00only will it find the dominant ideology, but against the facts posed by humanity
- 53:06in its development. Let' s not talk about social listening in Argentina.
- 53:08Let us speak, for example, of the papal sensifices of the late nineteenth
- 53:14century, such as the redumnovarum that puts it as a standard of the proposal
- 53:20of the Universal Catholic Clairvoyance on how to distribute awards and punishments in a society
- 53:24of capitalists. What then lies ahead of the country for the future. There
- 53:30is no concrete economic project except the Riffis, except what has finally been accepted
- 53:38by the Senate, with three senators and union for the homeland who contributed in
- 53:43favor, would have voted against it like the rest the remaining thirty. We
- 53:45wouldn' t have that lighter. That breeder. What it proposes is to
- 53:52encourage, with circles of the State of all kinds, the prohibited action,
- 53:57the ideology. Investments of more than$ 200 million in a selective package and
- 54:04activities such as Midia Guide, new technologies are the two most important, but
- 54:10the country cannot grow and over time with just that support for those two activities,
- 54:16which raises political philosophy and the current Government. This will be determined by
- 54:24supply, demand, in fact, does not prohibit monopolies. It has a
- 54:30competition secretariat, the national government. But at the same time the telesident says
- 54:35that monopolies are good, not bad. Another issue and there was no further
- 54:40discussion in any serious country in the world. We find that in ridicule and
- 54:45whether or not it is a monopoly the market controls. The market does not
- 54:50exist openly and competitively. When there are monopolies, the Morriopoño owns the market.
- 54:55That' s elementary a teenager just walked in or that age would understand
- 55:02it very easily for the President and the people who follow him. Not another
- 55:07fundamental issue there for the future. Nothing. We don' t know how
- 55:13to educate, we don' t know how the state bank is going to
- 55:17give credit. We do not know how work relations between employers and workers will
- 55:22be regulated. In short. Everything is left to chance from the market.
- 55:30That does not exist in any country in the world either, but we would
- 55:35propose European unions today to laugh at us, it would not be. They
- 55:37wouldn' t say, I disagree. They' d say, but you
- 55:40' d say that out of reality. He is proposing a way of governing
- 55:45is so anarchic that it can result in tremendous disasters of the point of view.
- 55:51For example, environmental in the RIFFI. There is no clause in which
- 55:55I say of the investments they have to have environmental permission from the government,
- 56:00of course because they intend to contaminate from all the rivers with the wastes of
- 56:07their activities the state clearly does not exist in Mr Milley' s biology,
- 56:10but the state has to prevent it because it pollutes kills millions of people.
- 56:16This, which seems absurd, naturally arises from the conception of economic and social
- 56:22policy in Argentina. Fortunately, it always existed even in the worst moments of
- 56:30Christ, explicit the implicit of social and distributive justice. Those who began to
- 56:37talk about it were the early 19th century socialists when they founded the party.
- 56:43Today, since the high magistracy, the evidence is available to me. President
- 56:50Millay and the people who follow him explicitly state that socialists are a human excrement.
- 56:58It was my turn in my long history, I have been voting for
- 57:01more than ninety years since a thousand nine hundred and fifty- two. In
- 57:04my life I voted for justiceists, radical asocialists, with whom I have special
- 57:09affection and have participated in political activities in many stages of my life. In
- 57:15these totally democratic tendencies, always admitted in democratic elections without any discussion by the
- 57:27socialists. The Socialists, with Alfredo Palacios in nineteen hundred and four, already
- 57:31a national deputy, proposed a series of deaths that finally the respective Congresses of
- 57:38the Nation, where even predominantly conservative majorities, voted the laws proposed by the
- 57:47Socialists. For example, the first and fundamental, the law of the eight
- 57:52hours, is contested at the beginning of the twentieth century. Since then,
- 57:57no one has been obliged to work more than or eight jobs. Now it
- 58:00is saved an extra explicit hour, which accepts and receives as payment a special
- 58:06compensation. The eighteen hours when working twelve or fourteen hours day by day,
- 58:10made an essential work of human life in Argentina. He rules for the socialists.
- 58:16We' d be not human excrement or shit. We don' t
- 58:22read shit, but to the President we are. In reality, it expresses
- 58:30an ideology where aggressive and inconsiderate qualification is dominant. We have not failed to
- 58:39hear expressions in which every opponent of his proposals is raising himself. He'
- 58:45s a criminal, he' s a communist dwarf. Like you said,
- 58:50just Albobrodad. He just kneed the governor of the province of Buenos Aires in
- 58:54a deeply derogatory tone. It is a town, it is a respectable human
- 59:04character, but it was born with such deficiencies, it has a physical presence
- 59:12and a role in society that should be considered especially and with all respect.
- 59:16Then there is like a vision of the world in totally open synsessis, totally
- 59:25anarchic, totally decompensated, without state and with someone who represents the country as
- 59:31a whole who insults and degrades to having the leopone plural construction led by Fernando
- 59:47Mauri by Radio Trentopic