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Federal Categories, Real World Consequences · The APAJ Hard Charger Podcast

• 0:01
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the premier episode of APAJ Our Chargers Procast.
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  SPEAKER_00: Today we're examining the tension among the Foundational Black Americans and L FBA, the American Descendants of Slavery, ADOS, Pan Africanist or Pan Africanism, and Black immigrants and the allocation of resources in the United States.
• 0:32
  SPEAKER_00: And first let me introduce myself and say this much to you.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_00: Instead of social media rhetoric, this podcast show here will focus on how federal policies actually handles immigration benefits and the demographics data.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_00: I drew on 42 years of combined federal service, including 29.5 years at the district and headquarters level with the former INS and CIS and the Department of Defense, Legacy U.S.
• 1:13
  SPEAKER_00: Customs, and with my military commitment as a whole.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_00: I want you to note because it's very important that you do so, federal adjudicators.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_00: Those are the persons that preside over immigrants' cases are bound strictly by law to apply rigid legal classifications defined by Congress.
• 1:46
  SPEAKER_00: Folks, I'm APAJ, and I want to say this to you.
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: You have to understand, for example, let's take what they call the E11 visa code applies strictly to employment-based individuals of extraordinary ability.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: I want you to listen to what I'm saying.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_00: For example, a F-21 code applies purely to the spouse of a lawful permanent resident.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_00: And affirmative asylum cases start with USCIS while defensive cases happen directly in the immigration court during removal proceedings.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_00: And what is the point?
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's simple.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is the foundation of this broadcast.
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  SPEAKER_00: Federal immigration decisions are based strictly on cold, hard cold, legal categories, not social identities.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_00: We emphasize and outline on social media.
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  SPEAKER_00: Let that sit in your settle in your head and your mind, what I just said.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because that's important to note.
• 3:11
  SPEAKER_00: It really is.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_00: The data, the money, and federal policy.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_00: Well there's an interesting thing here because I'd like to address a very legitimate concern raised by many FBA and ADOS families.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_00: Their concerns are that the federal statistics often group multi generational descendants of US slavery or enslavement right into the exact same demographic bucket as more recently arrived black immigrants come to the United States.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is despite of their completely different historical journeys and cultural realities.
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  SPEAKER_00: When the data blends everyone together, it obscures the unique challenges of both groups.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay?
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_00: But if you want to change how this mechanism by the government tracks these groups, you have to look at the entity that actually holds the key.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_00: And you may ask me, hey Apache, who is that?
• 4:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's the Office of Management and Budget.
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  SPEAKER_00: Now in the context of the FBA framework, delineation refers specifically to the delineation movement or indigenous.
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  SPEAKER_00: This social and political effort focuses on establishing a strict ethnic and lineage-based boundary to distinguish the indigenous or native black American population from other groups within the border of the African diaspora.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_00: Now, what say you, as we say in the military?
• 5:35
  SPEAKER_00: How do you feel about what all has been just spit out to you?
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_00: Because I am a former immigration official.
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  SPEAKER_00: I see five months shy of 30 years.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_00: I have seen many presidents come and go, different Congress and different USCIS directors.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_00: Folks in the day with INS, and some say INS should have stayed.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I think the Congresswoman, I'm not quite sure where she's from, Texas or California, is basically advocating just that.
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know, putting it back.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_00: And unfortunately, she wanted to abolish or just delete ICE altogether.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_00: So the point I'm raising here, what you just heard about the Office of Management and Budget, OMB, well, they have say so, you know, right out of the White House, as to what you can call yourselves as far as the recognition.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_00: And you can call yourself what you want, but you won't be recognized by that.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_00: And it even gets a little deeper, right?
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_00: A lot deeper.
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  SPEAKER_00: So social media influencers don't set federal standards for racial and ethnic data.
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  SPEAKER_00: The OMB does.
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  SPEAKER_00: We need to stop getting on to YouTube and throwing out this papagrandorous rhetoric.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's foolishness.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_00: To say certain things that you're not really too informed or breast to.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_00: And that's not because, you know, you don't know, perhaps a little bit ignorant to the fact.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_00: But do some due research and find out what it is that you're really against before you spew out so much hatred and I mean and divisive attitudes towards people who look like you.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's almost monstrous for me to comprehend remotely of what is being said and done.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_00: So, and the federal agencies have to follow their rules across the board as well.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_00: Recently, the OMB made a major update to what they call statistical policy directive number 15.
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  SPEAKER_00: Folks will go out there and look at that because this was the first massive change since 1997.
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_00: I came into the immigration INS in 96.
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  SPEAKER_00: So that showed you how important FBA, ADOS, Panacronists, or anyone else are to this, not only this administration in office, but the the past, those almost what, 30-something years.
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  SPEAKER_00: They combined race and ethnicity into one question.
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  SPEAKER_00: And get this, they added the Middle Eastern or North African categories known as MENA, M-E-N-A.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's interesting.
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  SPEAKER_00: But look at the timetable, federal agencies have until 2029 just to update their systems to fit their new rule.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_00: That shows you just how slow the wheels of the federal government actually move.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: You hear what I'm saying?
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_00: Because that's important for you to understand.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't understand anything, that's important for you to understand.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_00: Why all this is happening, I have my speculation, professional and you know, in my individual, personal, I should say, perspectives on what is actually being played out.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: And you should know that.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_00: From conflict to assessment, my training is in human performance improvement.
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  SPEAKER_00: And my decades inside the system as an inside of INS taught me to examine broken processes, not just symptoms.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_00: I do not see enemies amongst those different communities.
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  SPEAKER_00: ADOS, FEA, Pan-Afghanists, and the black immigrants at large.
• 10:52
  SPEAKER_00: I don't see it.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: I can't see it.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_00: Hell, I've been halfway around the country.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: I mean not the country, but the world.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_00: You know, and I I don't well, halfway around around the country as well.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_00: I just don't see it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I don't see, you know, making an argument plausible.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: Because if you're not talking with reasoning, who's gonna respect you if you don't really know what you're talking about?
• 11:28
  SPEAKER_00: I was thrown back or fablogasted when I heard of FBA.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_00: I've seen it, I've read some inserts here, but I've never given it a true thought.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_00: Is it a movement?
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  SPEAKER_00: Are they saying indigenous?
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, the lineage versus the skin color under this framework, identity is defined truly by ancestral lineage rather than race, cultural, or self-identification, delineation, explicitly marks and interviews as the FBA only if they directly trace their ancestry to enslaved or free black people in the United States.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that period is 1865.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_00: You know, Lerone Bennett wrote a book before the Mayflower, 1865.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_00: Get that.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_00: It's very is a very, very interesting book.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: And so the end of the Civil War and the passage of the 13th Amendment.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: You see how how technical, philosophical, how this works?
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_00: All right, we we hear 2026.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: Do you honestly think that this government is going to hand you a, for those who want reparations, a check for something happened so long ago?
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: Do I believe that we are due that?
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: Of course we are.
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  SPEAKER_00: Everybody else got an ass, right?
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_00: But what I want to talk about, and I'll talk about that in episode two, what will we do if that comes to fruition?
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_00: If we get the monies, you know.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_00: I study six and a half years immigration.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: In the sense, out of my almost 30 years that I went and started studying my doctoral degree, I'm considered now as they call it ABE.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I have to tell you about that story.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_00: You know, people asking me about my intentions if I get my degree, what I'm gonna do with it.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: And it didn't dawn on me that I was being set up for people to ask me, are you gonna go out there and be an advocate of immigration?
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: And folks, and let me say this.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm an advocate of people who do right, live by our laws.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I've seen a lot of immigrants over a time, and I interviewed a lot of immigrants, and I have a lot of as they call war stories to talk about.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: And so it kind of gotten me to the point that I felt compelled into starting the podcast.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: And let me just say this when I retired, I actually opened up a non-for-profit, you know, to help uh immigration non-for-profit.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_00: And so that didn't materialize because people were afraid to give myself and my colleagues who retired information.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_00: They think we just gonna turn around and give it, you know, to ICE or whomever.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: And I get that.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_00: So I had to slowly back out of that, and that kind of threw me back because I was passionate about that, helping.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: And you can say what you want to say, but a lot of immigrants that came in illegally is who I think most of the black Americans is talking about.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: Again, we're talking about, and I'll come up with some uh statistics, which I already have, and I'm putting that together in episode two, because I want you to know what those legal immigrants as a whole, in particular, that of the black immigrants give towards our GDP.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
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  SPEAKER_00: So again, a lot of a lot of misleading and misinformation by people, I say, so let's move past hashtags and conduct an honest and practical assessment of black immigrants.
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  SPEAKER_00: We can do that by identifying what are the strengths, what are the systemic weaknesses, and where are the real opportunities and threats.
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  SPEAKER_00: This event will be a so-called what they call a swap analysis of methodology, if you understand that, you know, the strength, weakness, opportunities, and threats.
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  SPEAKER_00: So, what are the strengths of having immigrants in particular?
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  SPEAKER_00: I want to I want to stay focused on the black immigrants because on the social media is that they've been attacked.
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  SPEAKER_00: Haitians, Africans, and folks, please, please, please, please.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: If you're gonna attack Africa, know that Africa is a continent.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_00: Some of you, ladies and guys, speak of Africa as if it's one big country.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's one large continent, that's for damn sure.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't like using profanity, but I I want you to hear me out, okay?
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: So when you throwing out this hot melted lava about what these, your your position and your perspective of you know what all immigrants are.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_00: Are there immigrants who say crazy things?
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_00: Of course they are.
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  SPEAKER_00: And you should check them.
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  SPEAKER_00: I would, but you can't indict and convict all of black immigrants or any immigrants that came through the process illegal.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_00: So I know what I'm talking about because I've been there and done that.
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  SPEAKER_00: I've given many people their oh work authorizations, okay?
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_00: Given people the reason to be here, a green cause, and ultimately the final hearing that's we call citizenship.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: And then take that lightly.
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  SPEAKER_00: You don't just bestow upon someone such an endeavor without checking and balancing them.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_00: So I I had to, I didn't check a system.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not gonna say her name on social media, but she was throwing out some stuff and she kindly responded.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: I sent her a laundry list of things, and I'm not here to pound on anybody.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_00: Just thought for correctness and say, hey, you know, maybe you should go study this.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: I even give you the direction where to go, look it up.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: Because I believe if you educate it by your rhetoric and your propaganda, and you do this, then that's a malicious intent.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know, such a contentious attitude towards yourself.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: Now, I am not going to get into what I personally believe is a flaw of people who not understanding how their genetic makeup is.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_00: I went to 23andMe had a better experience of my heritage.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: And that's something to talk about another time, but let me say this to my Nigerian sisters and brothers.
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  SPEAKER_00: I share your blood as well as others, you know, in uh diaspora, and I'm proud of that.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_00: I am so proud of that.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I had one person say to me, a doctor, she said, You you are Igbo.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care what tribe, because they I think they're all beautiful to me, so it doesn't make a difference.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm a worldly man.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_00: I travel, I lived overseas.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I I don't have any problems picking out the good, the bad, and the ugly.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_00: Because we got homegrown that way, right?
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_00: And what kills me every time someone comes on the YouTube and starts badgering immigrants, I ask myself, are they talking about legal immigrants or illegal immigrants?
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm gonna throw some statistics out at you and tell you how many Africans come to this country, was allowed in this country.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: And I worked at the airport in uniform, international airport as well.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I can honestly, I mean, I, you know, eye contact, talk to them, and you know, stamp them in.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome to America.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_00: Or welcome back.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm listening to all of this crazy talk.
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  SPEAKER_00: And one thing just came out about Snap.
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  SPEAKER_00: When I looked at it and said it and did my little research on 11% of black immigrants are on Snap.
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  SPEAKER_00: 11%?
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: 11%.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_00: Not go check and balance me.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_00: Because I I, you know, I I read things and I sometimes rush, and then I go read something.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_00: I never take one, you know, answer.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: I always go because I came out of research and researching, you know.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_00: But let me tell you something.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_00: Now that I got your attention, I hope, I wrote two books out of my manuscript for my doctorate program.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: Social Support in the United States for legal newcomers, a follow up guide to help newly arrived immigrants adjust and connect.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Socially.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_00: It's out there in Amazon.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's out there in Walmart.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, just I'm going to be putting some information out there, I think I already have, in my description, and you can go check it out.
• 22:15
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_00: And the first guy booked, assessing health care and social support in the United States, a guide for newly arrived immigrants.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: Now, let me get this right.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_00: Is the FBA saying, and you can correct me wrong, sisters and brothers, are you saying you don't want any immigrants, black immigrants here?
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: Whether it come from Haiti, you know, I would say Barbados, Jamaica, different parts of Africa, the whole diaspora.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_00: Are you saying that?
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_00: Because I have not heard anybody out of that group so far, and correct me if I'm wrong, I'm just learning you guys' base.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: Are you just equally upset at overstay visas from Europeans?
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: It's a lot.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_00: Are you?
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  SPEAKER_00: And they have become embedded, at least all the almost 30 years I've been in, into the social landscape of our society.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: Teachers, lawyers, doctors, law enforcement, firemen go on and on and on.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_00: Did you know that?
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_00: And no one is going to check and balance them because they're embedded.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm kind of wondering, you know, when is one of y'all leaders going to come out and start saying that as well?
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: Or is it that that's hands-off?
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: Because if it's hands-off, then it mutes your whole premise of attacking people who look like you.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_00: If you don't think some of these overstay European come here and join hate groups, I'm not saying all.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: How did that happen?
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: Somebody have to explain that to me, APACs, because I'm a little bit confused, you know.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I have dealt with fraud, you know, a little investigation part, help the investigators, I should say.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_00: And I can honestly say that don't want to put it, be mean spirit about it, but there are just as equally people who come to this country in the southern than they did in the northern, but undetected in some cases, right?
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: And what's the difference?
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: You come in in one category and you switch to another just to avoid or evade, you know, immigration law.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: I hope y'all understand that.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: So I want to get back to the core of this because a lot of people are confused, totally confused as to what it is that these, you know, staying about snap, and I mentioned about the 11%.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_00: I think it mentioned about, of course, it's more European Americans, and I call them that.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: If you call me African American, I would say you're European American.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, yeah.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_00: So, and and and then it breaks down racial line and ethnic line as to who's getting the benefits.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_00: So now the FBA, as they look at this thing, the separations from the uh broader diaspora, that could be concerning in some cases, right?
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_00: And the core purpose of this specific delineation is to draw a clear line between the historical experience of black Americans and more recent black immigrants.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: I more recent black immigrants, I have not heard one, and I had many, thousands.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_00: Folks, I adjudicated thousands of cases.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_00: I have not even heard of my colleagues.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_00: I also serve as a union president.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_00: Immigration, and I cannot, I can honestly say I've never heard of anyone say that they come here to get on public assistance.
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_00: You know why?
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_00: Because we got a thing called public charge.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_00: In INS, you know, we used to ask them at the airport, you know, how much money you got?
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna come here, B1, B2 visas, B1, and you come in here a maximum of 90 days up to B2, uh six months, and you can extend that on a form they call I-539.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: I call a vertical and horizontal.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: You come here, you can extend your stay, or like going up and to the side of it, you can actually, let's say, switch to another category.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_00: But this is uh misinformation.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm telling you, I'm coming to you live and direct.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_00: I don't, I'm not gonna just shout some things out to you.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what I'm talking about.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: If I do, then please correct me and I will learn.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_00: I'll open up my book, chart that down, and learn.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: And give you accreditation by saying, Sister so-and-so inform me, or brother so-and-so inform me.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm not going to get on of doing the radio, the audio part of it, because for at least what, six months before I do the video.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_00: I I'm not, I'm I'm not for click baiting any of that.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm getting things out there the best way I can.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_00: I hear people say, well, you should go do this.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: You have all this knowledge.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I wrote books, I'm writing my memoirs, and I also got two more books on that I'm writing.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't really have time to do this for a living.
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_00: I retired.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_00: And if anything comes out of that in that area, then fine.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, but my thing is to make some correctness to some misguided and misinformed rhetoric.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_00: It really doesn't make sense to me.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_00: It really doesn't.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_00: I would like to have these audio last an hour, you know, at least 30 minutes of me throwing things out.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: I'll have some guests come in.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: We'll talk about things.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_00: I would like to talk with the FBA, and if any of the ADOS, I call them ADOS, the American descendants of slavery, Pan-Africanists, I'm somewhat leaning towards that concept because I'm a worldly man, and if that falls in that place, so be it.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: But I do respect FBA's initiative.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_00: But I I'm hearing some people say it's our movement, then other people correct them, say this is we the indigenous.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_00: You know, if this is the case, you need to, your argument was OMB.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, you know, you tried it before, press that button.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_00: If somebody don't give us, you know, FBAs what we want, if if that's your argument, then perhaps we should take it to some type of national referendum or some type of vote and get our voice out there.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_00: Your voices, you FBAs.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_00: Not play it out on the internet because certain people may want to join you, but they see where you're going with this, and it's not about that.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_00: You know, there's an argument that could be made, the house Negro and the field Negro.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_00: You remember that.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: Y'all remember that, right?
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_00: And if you don't, talk to your your pops, your grandpops, or your grandmother, or whoever, because that's important for you to understand.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_00: That that's really, really important.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_00: Where some got the house uh Negro, if you want to call it that, gotten certain type of benefits, I don't know how, they were still enslaved, right?
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_00: And the field.
• 31:10
  SPEAKER_00: What's wrong?
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_00: Are we sick?
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_00: You know, where the field was praying to their God, Allah, Jova, that you know, the the building burned down.
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm I'm trying to understand by you getting on the the YouTube or whatever, TikTok, and you saying all these things so derogatory towards people who look like you, and you're saying that you're indigenous to this land and the government for what you the premise that you're bringing forth to these people, they're ignoring you, whether I would say the white racist European Americans, they are they are, you know, KKK, uh, Arab Nations, supremacy groups.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, they sitting back and say, oh my goodness, we couldn't have it any better.
• 32:06
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_00: So if I if I come at you and say that these people that as an accusatory, you're saying that are not contributing to our society, our GDP, and I show you to the contrary, that that is that is absurd.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I I just hope one day that somebody or bides to get on this, the TikTok and all that other social media and start bashing these black immigrants or any immigrants for that matter.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_00: And I will talk about the the whole immigration, you know, diaspora, if you want to say that, but the argument is more applicable to what is happening right now between the so-called indigenous black people in the United States versus the incoming immigrants.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: In my book, I explain to you, if you're a newcomer, because of things like this, and I didn't even know any, I wasn't even focused on this, right?
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_00: That you, you, you sisters and brothers, go out there and get the books and look at it.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_00: All right, because me not knowing what was really going on here and finding out that it was a much need for the, especially, I mean health for anybody, right?
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_00: But for the social network, because I I saw some mean things said by those immigrants towards the indigenous people, you know, black and white, but particularly black, and that's not right.
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_00: You know when you come to this country, if you haven't come here illegally, if you came through illegally, you talk like that, you wouldn't be here.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_00: You wouldn't even have a green car, you wouldn't even have a citizenship.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_00: And folks, your citizenship can be taken away from you.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_00: You know?
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: Denaturalization, we could denax.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_00: They could we can do that.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm no longer with them, right?
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_00: I retired, but they can do that, folks.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: Be careful when if you are an immigrant here, the way you're talking, and especially now under this new administration.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_00: They could check in your social media, your attitude, everything.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: The the the indigenous or black Americans or whatever, you know, I it's so confusing with this.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_00: And someone asked me, why are you confused?
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_00: I'm confused because in my era, we were Negroes, colored, black, African Americans.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: And folks, Afric A F I, I mean A F R I or A F R U.
• 34:59
  SPEAKER_00: Africans are not really Africans.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_00: Believe it or not, Akabolin, whatever you, if I'm pronouncing that right, whatever you want to call them, this was all carved up by you know who.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_00: Same thing they carved up and given you and won't give you your recognition.
• 35:19
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't like butching names up and stuff because I used to come across so many names and stuff, but what is it?
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_00: Amerio, Eusebia, Seppia.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you guys tell me, you know, who this country was named after.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_00: FBA, why would you want to leave that part, the American part, if you indigenous, if you were here before America had was created, why would you want to put that inside there?
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think you would be saying, I don't know, somewhere along the line of foundational black United States citizens.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean, naming yourself after someone, and you you say you predated the person coming here, but yet you still, is that for recognition?
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_00: Because O and B is not recognizing any of us.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't even know that they was putting African American birth certificate.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_00: And someone told me that I haven't seen one.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm still, you know, I tell them my age, but I'm like, oh yeah, really?
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_00: But here's the thing that gets me.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_00: You guys and ladies on YouTube, you you you upset because Ethiopians, for example, call themselves Ethiopians not black, based on their national orientation.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: Passports, birth certificates, same thing in other countries, uh Jamaicans are Jamaicans.
• 36:59
  SPEAKER_00: Now, on that nationality aspect, yeah.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_00: But are they black?
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: Of course they are, and they mix, just like we are here.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_00: So why are you getting upset because someone tell you that their system is not our system?
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_00: England has a different system.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_00: Look at look at India with the caste system still this day.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_00: You know, so you get upset if someone who I've seen tons and tons come through this country, I do not see black there.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_00: In some cases, you may see uh negro.
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_00: But you see, coming from uh the black diaspora, you see their nationalities, the country they was they was born.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_00: United States is stuck on race.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_00: This is why they wait until 2029.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know what's gonna happen.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe they're gonna just take off the what?
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_00: The prefix of everybody and start just calling you Americans.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_00: If that be it, so be it.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_00: No more African Americans, no more European Americans, and any other type of Mexican Americans, Americans.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_00: Or plain, or I refer to myself a United States citizen.
• 38:28
  SPEAKER_00: Thirteenth, fourteenth Amendment, whatever.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_00: But all of this, you know, yakity yak about are you black enough and you know, or you're not black enough, or you too black, that is very divisive.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_00: And this it doesn't make sense.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_00: So the FBA is basically saying about their actionable goal of delineation is the context and resource allocation and legal tracking.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_00: Advocates seek official government recognition.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_00: Again, knock, knock, knock, omb, please let me be me.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_00: And why not, OMB?
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_00: What harm is that?
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_00: You call us the N-word, and I got a segment on that.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_00: I am totally, totally dumbfounded by why, you know, people don't understand that most of the immigrants, black as well, are looking at our subculture and mixing it up when they say we are ignorant and we this and that.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm saying yes.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_00: If you out there killing each other, hating each other, killing babies, killing moms, killing grandfathers, grandmothers, man, that's ignorant.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_00: The black family as a whole don't go out killing people.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_00: We protect our loved ones, we protect ourselves.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: We have time for that mess.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_00: Go to other countries showing you're behind, get locked up and begging to come back because you see the reality, you go to Saudi Arabia and do the dumbest things.
• 40:40
  SPEAKER_00: You go to Korea, Japan, China, Russia, and act out.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_00: Do other people do that?
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_00: But we're talking about us.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you gotta understand, man, that let me say this.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_00: When I was stationed in Germany, I remember taking some college courses there, and I had a paper, and it was about how to make a Negro thus become an N-word.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_00: But I didn't use the N-word.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_00: Folks, I have never used that, had it said to me, especially in Basio Lone Island, sounds in the high school, shout out to New York back in the day, by a Puerto Rican and a white Irish guy.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_00: One guy in the military called me that.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: And a guy out in New York did it.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_00: I just, you know, I looked at him like he was crazy.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_00: But when he said something about my mother, you know how black men are about their mothers, right?
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_00: So I dropkicked him.
• 41:52
  SPEAKER_00: And the teacher was, I it was an English teacher.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_00: Like, well, why do you I don't understand?
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_00: He called you this every day.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_00: I said, I know.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_00: But why you didn't get him then?
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'm not an N-word.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_00: And everybody looking at me and this real dark-skinned brother, he called him one and said, You nothing but a Shachu, or whatever you call it.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_00: I don't she she talked, and then I forgot.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_00: But nevertheless, he called him something.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_00: And and he said, I'm not, that's him.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_00: And I looked over there at him like, yeah.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_00: Why I'm saying this?
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_00: Because if you feel you that type of person, if you walk around and refer to each other that way, what do you think other people, you think the black immigrants would look at that?
• 42:44
  SPEAKER_00: I can tell you how much discrimination I was confronted with when I was insider immigration.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of us externally, a lot of was internally.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm gonna tell you this, I'm nobody's n-word.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_00: And you not either.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_00: That you abolish the N-word while you're trying to get recognized.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_00: I would submit that a lot of people would be upset with that.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_00: You know, FCC allowed it on the radio, TV.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_00: I am dumbfounded how a person will get upset at a European American calling you that when you call yourselves that.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_00: This is why I didn't respond to the European American racist and the Puerto Rican who was calling me those words, that word.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you're above that.
• 43:58
  SPEAKER_00: I can't help that.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: They didn't understand what a a a niggus is and a naggus, king and queen, queen and king, and use it in a derogatory sense.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_00: I remember asking some sisters and brothers would they, you know, resort to calling themselves that king and and queen in word.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_00: Not not what you know.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_00: But you know what?
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_00: They wouldn't do it.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_00: No, because I feel it's like what do they call that in biblical chord from a female to the baby?
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of you don't want to have it cut.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_00: No, you don't.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_00: You couldn't.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_00: It is no way, no logic.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to be learned.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not educated, I'm learned.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_00: I don't care about no damn education.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, when I see what that really means, but you're smart enough to understand that if you keep calling yourselves the N-word and walking around, talking about respectability, you think you get respect for that?
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_00: Only if you got money.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_00: And it's being exploited, yeah.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_00: You get all the respect in the world.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_00: Y'all know that.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_00: But they hate each other because a I don't ever hear on the YouTube, because I'm not into that other stuff, that social media crap, you know, you're saying that some people come into this country and they disrespect us.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_00: This is true.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_00: But all black immigrants or immigrants in in general?
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_00: So all black immigrants come here and what?
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_00: I know some of them go to the north of or to the south, whatever you know, town, city, or state you live in, just to get away from the inner city violence.
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_00: Could you blame them for that?
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_00: Because homegrown black people do the same thing.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_00: They go try to get businesses and get them.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, what's what's the resentment?
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_00: And why do you come to our country and disrespect us?
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_00: Who are you to judge us?
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_00: Take care of your own home.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_00: And if you want to come here to be a part of us, respect us.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's not hard to do.
• 46:50
  SPEAKER_00: If you see somebody doing something wrong, a an indigenous so-called indigenous black person, then you know what?
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_00: You got a choice to ignore them or get yourself involved in such a way you'll be on the news.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_00: So what is the saying?
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_00: F-A-F-O or whatever it is.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_00: Don't don't do that.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_00: I if I were you, I wouldn't do that.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_00: But you gotta, you gotta up your game about who we are in this country.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_00: Because we open the doors for a lot of people.
• 47:37
  SPEAKER_00: Lots.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_00: And we learn from a lot of people, blacks, in the diaspora.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think I'm no better than you.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_00: I can't be, because I come from you.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_00: And anybody want to argue that, then they don't know the science.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_00: I in the world could all creations emanated from so-called Africa, and yet you FBAs don't want to give accreditation or recognition.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's almost like self-hatred, right?
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_00: Like I don't, I'm black, but I'm not that black.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_00: Wow.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_00: Race, color, color, social construct.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_00: People say, well, there were there's really no whites until the 1600 or whatever.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but they don't have to fight for recognition, do they?
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_00: I'm talking about the white immigrants come here.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_00: Man, woman.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_00: I'm talking about they don't have to, they just blend.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_00: You know how that sounds to a a European come here and hear what y'all what what the what's going on between the black family?
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_00: They just come here and they blend amongst themselves.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_00: Are they sectioned up Italians, Irish, you know, Greeks, you name them, Russians.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_00: But out are they out there calling each other names and almost at war?
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_00: A Wu Wanda type thing, you know what I'm saying?
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_00: This is crazy.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_00: I hope you understand the damage that we are doing to one another.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_00: Every single day, if some, I mean, group of people, the same people, and it's I I I'm like a click and bait type thing, I'm I'm looking at.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_00: The more I can get something come out of someone's mouth, whether they're famous or not, infamous, the more I can get out of dragging somebody's down because what they said or their association that that's an black immigrant.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, a lot of black immigrants left their countries.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_00: And here's all I want to say you have the audacity, black indigenous people, to talk about certain countries.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_00: Well, again, some of you list Africa as if it's just a country, how dirty and filthy Haiti was and is, and how certain parts of Africa.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_00: Same thing is true for the United States.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_00: In the black areas as well as the white.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_00: You don't see that?
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_00: You don't see that that how they were exploited in Africa, in Central, South America, and the Caribbeans, the Caribbeans, whatever you want to call that.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_00: You don't see that?
• 51:34
  SPEAKER_00: You're not doing your homework, man.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_00: Y'all getting on this internet and just spewing out all of this crazy mess.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_00: You're talking about conditions that we live in today.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_00: You know how do I know this?
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_00: And you should know it?
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_00: Look at the stacks go research it.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_00: Why are people still, so many people that's working and living in their cars, man?
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_00: What world do y'all live in?
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like we, you know, our stuff, we go in the corner and you know, do our business and spray cologne or perfume on it, and we okay.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_00: No, we're not.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, we contribute to a lot of things.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, it wasn't the black Caribbeans or the uh, I should say the immigrants who tore that down, who stole our hundreds, if not thousands, of patents, did they?
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_00: As the sister trying to uh had alluded to with all this history she brought out, but she forgot one thing.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_00: You see, when you say something about a certain particular given situation, and you don't codify, your your your light research or your just pick and choose what you want to, you know, you deviate from what you're you throw out bad words and say you're gonna educate people, but yet you forget about, let me tell you something.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_00: Our Nigerian sisters and brothers, smart, smart, our African Americans, aka indigenous, you know, sisters and brothers, smart, smart.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_00: What if you put that together?
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_00: Brilliants.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_00: Huh?
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_00: Because I I think of Secretary Brown before I some say he was killed on the plane or he the plane went down, he was trying to do that commerce thing and try to get, you know, the the diaspora together.
• 53:46
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people don't want that.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure certain people here in the United States that don't look like that's not our hue, they don't want that either.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_00: This is the best thing you could deliver to them, the white, racist European Americans.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_00: By you doing this, it's a divide and conquer.
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_00: So you get rid of all the black immigrants, then what?
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_00: And what do you think they're gonna do?
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_00: Sit back and let you just target them and don't fight you back?
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_00: And what you, you know, black immigrants think you can just come in here and talk about us and disrespect our historical factors?
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_00: Shame on you.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_00: You know you can come through immigration talking like that.
• 54:43
  SPEAKER_00: You know on the application that you you, you know, have you ever persecuted someone because of you know that, you know what I'm saying.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_00: You, you, you sisters and brothers out there in the diaspora, black immigrants, you know that, as well as any immigrant.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_00: There's a process, folks.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_00: Unless you came here, we call e we entry without proper inspection at a POE, a port of entry, guess what?
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_00: They're catching up with you now.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_00: If you're illegally undocumented.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_00: I know people get upset with the word alien, but hell, Congress put it in there.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_00: But nevertheless, but if you're legal and you just fell on your luck, and you're part of the 11%, and a lot of these people work just like Americans work, and American blacks work, and they look need a little help.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_00: How dare you say about our sisters and brothers, black immigrants, maybe you got a good job, but somebody in your family don't, and somebody in your family is getting snaps or snap or whatever they call it.
• 56:04
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know too much about the program, but that is it.
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_00: They know that they have to work, folks, because not only this president, the Obama, Bush, the Sun, you know, it's just, oh, it's called public charge.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_00: Trump that's been there.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_00: Trump didn't make that up.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's been there.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_00: To reiterate the fact we should say that at the airport.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_00: It's been there, folks.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_00: I just like to close out by saying, there's hope, I'm sure.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_00: There's hope.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_00: But if you keep this mess up, who knows where this is going?
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_00: Because I want to talk about in my second episode where we're going with this divide as it deepens.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_00: And try to examine the concerns surrounding reparations, eligibility, who gets what, and why.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_00: Again, I have not seen or heard anyone that in the black um immigrants say this.
• 57:27
  SPEAKER_00: Now, just because I haven't don't mean they haven't said it.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_00: They want part of it, because they do, but on a different level, right?
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_00: I you took people and some blacks here saying, Well, you giving us away, and war that happens, right?
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_00: So we're saying some of our sisters and brothers are saying, Well, we were enslaved, you know, before you uh declare your FBA status, unrecognized by the government.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_00: So it's one big old mess.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_00: So the Europeans and United States get together and give reparations?
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_00: Hell yeah.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_00: But what are you gonna do if someone sets some money in your lap or in your bank account?
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_00: Give it back, cars, reckless behavior.
• 58:31
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_00: I would like to see money goes to black institutions, education, health, labor, entrepreneurship, you know, futuristic science endeavors, things like that.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_00: Because we got a lot of smart people, man.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_00: We got a lot of people, we got people that can put things together.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_00: I used to tell people, sisters and brothers in the South, brothers really never went to school, had a platform for it, but can fix an engine.
• 59:05
  SPEAKER_00: Know the timing of your car, you know what I'm saying?
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_00: They didn't have all those schematics.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_00: Well, this is what you do.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_00: Certain people had to have that, that type of you know, process.
• 59:17
  SPEAKER_00: But you guys, you know, our ancestors were very smart.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_00: Very, very.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_00: And then I don't care if we came from Palestine or, you know, the the the Africa here in the in this land, United States, what what really different does it make if all humanity came out of Africa?
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_00: I don't get it.
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_00: I don't get it.
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_00: So wise up, be kind to one another.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_00: You guys and ladies, stay informed, protect yourselves and each other.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_00: So let's let the healing begin.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_00: And let's remember much respect is given as it is received.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_00: I'm APAJ, better known as Apatch, and I'm telling you, thank you for listening.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_00: I went over a couple of minutes, but I can honestly say this is the first one, and I got uh more to come.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_00: So uh soon I will open it up and let's see what happens, okay?
• 1:00:28
  SPEAKER_00: I would say stay black, but stay alive.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_00: Peace.