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- 0:00What is going on, beautiful people.
- 0:02Today we're going to talk about what does a narcissist consider
- 0:06cheating? What do they consider cheating
- 0:08on their end and what do they consider cheating on your end?
- 0:12If you're new here, my name is Lee Hammock.
- 0:13I'm a self aware narcissist and welcome to another episode of
- 0:16The Narcissist Code Beam.
- 0:35Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back folks.
- 0:37So yes, what does a narcissist consider cheating?
- 0:40This is probably broken up into two parts, but I'm not one of
- 0:44those channels that breaks it up into two parts and has you
- 0:46coming back later on this video. I might do a series, but this is
- 0:49not a series. This is not series worthy.
- 0:51So what does a narcissist consider cheating on your end?
- 0:55And then I'll talk about whether they consider cheating from
- 0:58their perspective on on their end and what not.
- 1:01So when it comes to you, you a narcissist can consider cheating
- 1:08something as simple as you talking to somebody else.
- 1:12Literally, you talking to somebody else of the opposite
- 1:16sex or the the the sex or gender that you're attracted, they feel
- 1:19like you're attracted to is cheating.
- 1:21Even even if you not physically attracted to that sex or gender,
- 1:25they will still consider that cheating.
- 1:26Because you spoke this money, because you laughed at somebody
- 1:29else's joke, because you made eye contact with somebody else,
- 1:32they can consider that cheating. And I know that sounds
- 1:34ridiculous lately. That sounds so ridiculous.
- 1:37That's so stupidly. Yes, I understand that.
- 1:39That's why I'm making this video to let you know how I understand
- 1:43that it sounds ridiculous. But to in the mind of a
- 1:45narcissist, it makes absolute sense that I consider this
- 1:49cheating, that this is definitely cheating to me.
- 1:52You know, that makes complete sense to that narcissist or to
- 1:54that toxic person that you're dealing with because in their
- 1:56minds, this is cheating because you you're, you're communicating
- 2:00with somebody else. You just are, you know what I
- 2:03mean? They consider that cheating to
- 2:05the umpteenth. Like you might as well go ahead
- 2:06and slept with somebody else. The way that they can treat you
- 2:09for having a conversation with somebody else or I make an eye
- 2:12contact with somebody else and things of that nature that that
- 2:14they can consider that cheating right there.
- 2:16You know, and it seems so super simplistically out, but I'm just
- 2:19telling you, they consider that cheating.
- 2:22It's the second thing that they will consider cheating on your
- 2:26end, on your end of things is being with somebody did they
- 2:31previously know or being free. Like being with someone that
- 2:35they know before they met you, before y'all got together.
- 2:40They will treat you like you cheated on them by because you
- 2:43had a relationship. You dated somebody you cut
- 2:45cheeks with somebody that they know, one of their old friends
- 2:49or so an old acquaintance, somebody that they know, the
- 2:53dude from high school, the girl from the grocery store that they
- 2:55know somebody that they've interacted with.
- 2:58You had a previous relationship with this person.
- 3:00They will look at you like you cheated on them.
- 3:02They will is Yeah, I'm telling you, they will treat you like
- 3:04you didn't cheated on them, like you didn't got had a baby by
- 3:07somebody else own them. They like they will treat you
- 3:11like a damn pariah for simply entertaining or having a
- 3:15conversation with somebody else. I mean like for having somebody
- 3:18else for sleep with somebody else in the past before you got
- 3:21with them before, like you didn't have to sleep with them.
- 3:23If you dated them, they'll be super paranoid you didn't sleep
- 3:26with them. You can just say, no, we didn't
- 3:28sleep there. We just went on one date.
- 3:29We realized that nothing, we didn't click and that was it.
- 3:31We only talked to that person since.
- 3:33But you went on a date with them though, you dated them.
- 3:39They will treat you like you cheated on them.
- 3:41And again, y'all, I know it sounds asinine, but that's what
- 3:45it is. That's that's the mindset,
- 3:47that's the the mental dynamic of a toxic narcissistic person.
- 3:51They considered this cheating because this happened.
- 3:53You did this, you said this, you know things went down this way.
- 3:57That's the mindset of a lot of toxic narcissistic people.
- 4:00Another thing that they will be considered cheating is if you're
- 4:02friends with an ex, if you are friends with an ex, you have a
- 4:07close, if you're close friends or just acquaintances with
- 4:10somebody that you've dated before or previously, like
- 4:13slept, slept before or something like that.
- 4:15They look at you like you're a cheater.
- 4:17And yes, none of these, yeah, I'm going to say this.
- 4:19None of these things I'm talking about right now specifically
- 4:22make you a narcissist. I know some of y'all will be
- 4:23like, well, Lee, I I get jealous of stuff like that too.
- 4:25Am I a narcissist? No, Yeah, nothing specifically
- 4:29makes you a narcissist. You make you make you
- 4:30narcissistic. You make you insecure, you make
- 4:32you jealous, you know what I'm saying?
- 4:33Make you paranoid. But then none of this stuff
- 4:35makes you a narcissist. The accumulation of behaviors
- 4:38that make you narcissist or narcissistic you simply is an
- 4:41accumulation. It's not just one specific
- 4:43thing, you know? So it's an accumulation of toxic
- 4:46behaviors or toxic traits and things like that.
- 4:47So back to the video. Like if you were friends with an
- 4:50ex, they would consider that asleep, they would consider that
- 4:52cheating, but you still are you cheating on me, aren't you?
- 4:55Why are you still talking to them even if you talk to this
- 4:58person once a month, once every year?
- 5:01Y'all friends on Facebook, y'all, You know you might like
- 5:04each other stuff on Instagram, but you haven't communicated in
- 5:06decades. They don't care.
- 5:08That's cheating. We still consider that cheating
- 5:12because you're still in communication with that person.
- 5:14Again, this doesn't specifically make you a narcissist.
- 5:17It's an accumulation of things. It's the behaviors, it's the
- 5:20traits. They will still even look at you
- 5:22like you're a damn cheater. You talk to this person.
- 5:24I can't believe you did this to me.
- 5:26I can't believe you're cheating on me.
- 5:27Like what? Like they like my Facebooks that
- 5:29I've talked to this person in in 10 years.
- 5:31I don't care. I don't care.
- 5:33You're still cheating. You're still a cheater.
- 5:35You still did this, you still do that.
- 5:37They don't care. It doesn't matter to them that
- 5:39the mind in their minds, you're you're a liar.
- 5:42You're a cheater. You're a manipulator, you know,
- 5:44a deceiver, heartbreaker, and I won't let you back in my life
- 5:47that I'm taking. But yeah, the next thing that
- 5:50they consider cheating, y'all, and again, this is going to
- 5:52sound stupid, but if you break up with them and you're with
- 5:56somebody else, that's you cheating.
- 6:00If you break again, if y'all break up and you date somebody
- 6:04else, you sleep with somebody else, you entertain somebody
- 6:09else, you get on a dating nap or something like that, that's
- 6:12cheating. Even with anything that you do,
- 6:15you're not together. Even if you don't have the
- 6:17intent on getting back together, this is not a break.
- 6:20This is a break up. Like, yeah, they left you.
- 6:23Let's say they left you for someone else, right?
- 6:26They break up with you for someone else, they leave you for
- 6:30someone else and somehow they look at you as a cheater because
- 6:35you did something when y'all were not together.
- 6:36They left you for someone else. Y'all somehow get back together
- 6:40and now they look at you and treat you like you're a cheater
- 6:42because you were with somebody else.
- 6:43You entertained somebody else. You got on a dating app, you
- 6:46went on a date. They look at you as a
- 6:47full-fledged cheater because you entertained somebody while y'all
- 6:51were broken up. And they're the, they are the
- 6:53ones that initiated the breakup, the separation, the divorce.
- 6:57But the fact that y'all reconciled in this, the fact
- 7:01that y'all reconciled, that's what happens right there.
- 7:04They look at you in this way, they look at you as a liar, a
- 7:08manipulator, a cheater, a stealer, a thief, or whatever it
- 7:10is in these in these situations. This happens to so many people.
- 7:15And I'm just telling y'all this because this is how you want it.
- 7:17Like when you want to go about doing things and fixing things
- 7:19and healing yourself and building a new life for
- 7:21yourself, these are the things that you have to start to
- 7:23understand. And like they're going to hold
- 7:25this against you regardless of whether or not you actually
- 7:28cheated because some people do actually cheat, like sleeping
- 7:31with somebody else or actually entertaining somebody else.
- 7:33That's actually that you actually like your definition of
- 7:36cheating. You did right.
- 7:38You slept with somebody else just like that.
- 7:41They won't ever forgive you. They won't ever get over this.
- 7:43They will always keep this in their back pocket or keep this
- 7:46in their book bag to be used against you later on.
- 7:49This is this is the part of y'all, this is the piece of
- 7:52pieces of it you're going to be you're going to be held
- 7:56accountable with something that you did that you did while y'all
- 7:58were not together like you cheated on me and they could
- 8:03y'all, let's say y'all get back together and they say, hey,
- 8:04look, I slept with 20 people while we were separated and you
- 8:09and then you'll be like, well, I went on one date, you cheater,
- 8:12you cheated on me. I'm about to go into the second
- 8:14part of this right here about what they consider cheating for
- 8:17themselves. But you see how unequaled and
- 8:20unequaled that is. They slept with 25 people.
- 8:23You went on one date and kissed somebody.
- 8:25You're a cheater and they will treat you as such.
- 8:27I can't believe you betrayed me. You left me for somebody else.
- 8:31You betrayed me. You're supposed to wait for me.
- 8:35You're stronger than I am. You're better than me.
- 8:38They will hold you accountable for things that you did when
- 8:40y'all were not together. So that's something you have to
- 8:42prepare for because they absolutely will.
- 8:45They will treat you like a cheater.
- 8:46They will treat you like an abuser.
- 8:47They will treat you like you did them wrong in the worst way.
- 8:50And sometimes they'll tell their friends and family members that
- 8:52you cheated on them and they will use this.
- 8:54They will use your behaviors that they consider cheating
- 8:57against you. They would justify their
- 8:58behaviors because of what they told you that you did.
- 9:02They will actually go out here and cheat on you because they
- 9:05think you cheated on them. You know what I'm saying?
- 9:07They will actually cheat on you because they thank you.
- 9:09They consider this cheating on them.
- 9:11You're right, if y'all think like if I miss some, drop it in
- 9:15the comment section with your narcissistic partner, consider
- 9:17cheating. I know dating.
- 9:18I know I probably missed. I mean I talked about dating
- 9:20apps. You download a dating app when
- 9:22y'all, when y'all are not together, you go on more dates
- 9:25like you're you don't like they consider it cheating.
- 9:28If y'all are not exclusive like y'all, this is y'all's first
- 9:30date and you have another first date playing with somebody else
- 9:32next week. That's cheating.
- 9:34They expect you to be exclusive to them the first time after the
- 9:37first date. We were an exclusive couple,
- 9:39right? They expect you to be.
- 9:40They expect exclusivity after the very first date.
- 9:45And y'all, this is the first time y'all meeting y'all, y'all
- 9:47sit down and have a coffee date, right?
- 9:48And you have a date playing with somebody else next week and they
- 9:50find out about it. You're a cheater.
- 9:53I can't believe you cheated on me like we just had coffee once.
- 9:55You're a cheater. You're a damn cheater.
- 9:57Don't try to don't try to, don't try to deflect.
- 10:00You're a damn cheater. I can't ever trust you.
- 10:03But they won't leave you alone. It's crazy.
- 10:05They'll consider this cheating, but they won't leave you alone.
- 10:07And they use this as an excuse. But for the next thing I'll
- 10:11tell, I'll hop into y'all What narcissists consider them
- 10:15cheating? What a what a narcissist will
- 10:18consider cheating on their end? Nothing.
- 10:22I know y'all. Look, I was waiting for y'all.
- 10:24I knew y'all gonna say y'all. They even if they do consider
- 10:27what they've done cheating, they can actually sleep.
- 10:29Sleep with someone else, but because they will blame it on
- 10:32you, it's not actually cheating. It's for you forced me to do
- 10:35this. It's not cheating if you if I
- 10:38was forced to do this. I know we slept together 6th
- 10:42like twice a day, six times a day.
- 10:44And see, I know last week out of out of seven days, we slept
- 10:48together twice a day, but on day seven, when we slept together
- 10:52one time, you did not meet a second time because you were
- 10:54saying you were tired. What do you expect me to do?
- 10:56I have needs, so I call. I met, I went to the bar and met
- 10:59somebody that slept with them. So it's your fault.
- 11:01You're not cheating. You're forced.
- 11:02You forced me to do this. They rarely would ever admit
- 11:05that they're cheating is actually actually cheating.
- 11:08All the stuff that they consider cheating for you, they will make
- 11:11an excuse for why it's OK with them.
- 11:13Why do you have female friends? Why do you have male friends?
- 11:15Oh, because I know how to control myself.
- 11:16It's different for me. Why did why did you get to sleep
- 11:19with somebody while we were not together?
- 11:20But it's cheating when I do because I didn't connect to them
- 11:22emotionally. It was just sex.
- 11:24It was, we just slept together. You, you can't, you can't
- 11:27control your, you can't, you can't sleep with somebody.
- 11:28We're all connected to them, connected to them emotionally.
- 11:31So it's different for me. You said that they will always
- 11:33have an excuse. Well, why are you still, for
- 11:35instance, your ex? Because we grew up together.
- 11:38It was deeper than that. Everything that they consider
- 11:42you cheating, they will have an excuse as to why it's not
- 11:44cheating for them. Double standards exist in these
- 11:47toxic relationship spaces. You can't.
- 11:50You don't get to do what they get to do, y'all.
- 11:52I know that's sad. I know that sucks, I know that
- 11:54sounds stupid. But you don't get to do what I
- 11:56get to do that we're not. We're in the mind of a
- 11:59narcissist. We are not equals, we just are
- 12:01not. You don't get to get away with
- 12:03what I get to get away with. So very rarely would they.
- 12:06If they, even if they do say it's cheating, they will always
- 12:08have an excuse as to why and they will try, they will try to
- 12:10guilt trip you. Even if they sleep with somebody
- 12:13else, they will try to guilt trip you into taking
- 12:16accountability for why they slept with somebody else, why
- 12:18they ended up with somebody else.
- 12:19They will try to put it on to you.
- 12:21So this is just something for you to consider y'all something
- 12:22for you to think about as you deal with this toxic
- 12:25narcissistic person as you try to navigate whether like I say,
- 12:28if they consider you that you cheated on them, they will never
- 12:31forgive you. They will never get over it and
- 12:32they will never be able to move forward.
- 12:34They will just always break it up time and time again and
- 12:37again. If they consider that you
- 12:38cheated on them is it gives them the excuse to go sleep with
- 12:41somebody else on you anyway. Anyway, I think something I've
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