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Raquel Powell (Rocky Powell) | The Christian Reeve Podcast | #60 | · The Christian Reeve Podcast

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  Hello. And welcome to another episode
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  of the Christian. We've podcast today's guests.
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  Is host of The Wild Nights with Rocky Powell podcast.
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  She hails all the way from New York City.
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  Welcome to the show Rocky power, how you doing?
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  I'm doing great, Christian, thank you for having me.
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  It's my pleasure. Yeah, let's jump straight into
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  the podcast. You've just began this podcast
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  as I understand. And it's a pretty unique idea,
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  you know, I mean, I see a lot of podcasts naturally and I tend to
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  favor the ones that have more. Of a clear structure like, you
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  know, and I think they tend to do better in general.
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  Like if you have a niche or a particular format, you're going
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  to do better than if it's just conversational and it's all over
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  the place because obviously your audience you're going to build
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  an audience. Based on people being able to
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  follow a sort of a natural progression or a format and with
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  your format. It's basically you interviewing
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  people in a kind of more than a foot like a less formal
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  situation. But like you're basically
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  talking about Some of the wildest nights they've had out
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  which I thought was really cool, especially, you know, if it's
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  people, you know, in New York. I mean, it's one of the biggest
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  cities in the world. So, how did you come up with
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  this idea? Well, I used to party a lot.
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  I used to have a lot of fun. I am a Canadian in New York and
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  it wouldn't ya would not be out of the regular for us to go out
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  on like a Wednesday night and just rage have a good time
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  Friday nights like everyone. I My associate with is usually
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  down for a good time. So when the pandemic happened,
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  it just kind of halted everything as everyone in the
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  world knows. You know, you can't go out
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  anymore, you can't do anything and I missed talking to
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  comedians. I missed talking to
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  entertainers, and I had wanted to start a podcast for about a
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  year and a half before that. So, I just finally said, well,
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  this thing doesn't look like it's ending anytime soon.
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  Nobody's taking it. Seriously, I have the time right
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  now to do it so let me start this podcast.
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  So I started emailing some friends that I knew that were
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  Comedians and telling them the concept of it.
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  And yeah, I was able to get some interviews.
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  And then I started reaching out to kind of people.
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  I didn't know. So radio host across the country
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  other people on just, you know, musicians and stuff.
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  People, people drag queens people in the entertainment
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  industry that I knew would probably have a great story to
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  tell. So I tell all my guests
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  beforehand, to give me one word to describe their story.
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  That's all I know about the story.
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  And then. Yeah.
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  And and then I let them come on and tell the story.
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  And I just say, okay this is the word that they gave me and then
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  they come on and tell the story and sometimes, you know, they
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  are a little bit more tame. They're not as you know, they're
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  not drug-filled sex-filled, you know, Bender.
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  They're just an interesting night and sometimes they're off
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  the rails, but I always tell the people I trust you as an
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  entertaining nerd to tell a great story.
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  So if this is a wild night to you than it, fits Under the
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  Umbrella of the show, Show it to us.
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  I have you had anyone on the show so far, who like came and
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  maybe like the story was a bit boring or not what you expected
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  or something. That's so I've had seven
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  episodes so far and then I have six.
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  I have six episodes recorded that haven't been edited yet six
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  or seven that have the 90 and I've been starting to edit
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  earlier and earlier in the week. That's why I'm glad I have a few
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  in the And because then they come out on Mondays on Sundays.
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  I the beginning I was up till 2:00 in the morning editing and
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  I said I can't do this. I have to come up with a better
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  strategy, so nobody. Luckily no one has told a boring
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  story. Yet, I've had a couple stories
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  that were a little shorter and a little more rated PG, but the
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  person who had the people who have told those stories have
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  always. They've always delivered with
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  details of everything. And I do the first few minutes
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  of the podcast is me speaking. Yeah.
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  So without the guest, so, yeah, and I've been fortunate that.
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  I've had pretty entertaining stories and now I'm in a
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  position where I have so many stories recorded that I don't.
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  If I feel like a story is not good, I could probably not use
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  it but I haven't had to do that yet.
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  I just want to say this is a side note.
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  Well, because I listened to one of your episodes and and I don't
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  know if that this is kind of like maybe advice or maybe like
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  a suggestion, but I just wanted to throw you away because I sort
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  of put it on in the background and basically what I do with my
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  research with every guest is I sit down and I go through
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  everything and I build up a kind of a profile of that person and
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  of course. Yeah.
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  Yeah think about different things.
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  I want to ask them and I was listening to and I was I was
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  really getting into it and It hadn't even gotten to the
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  interview part yet. It was just you talking like,
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  some funny story. I think it was something to do
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  with speed dating or something like that.
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  Okay, I was just sitting there laughing and I was like, I
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  really think you should do maybe just like some Standalone
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  episodes where you just like, talk like funny stories about
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  from your life because seriously, like, it was actually
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  really, really entertaining and now that you've told me you're a
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  comedian, it makes perfect sense.
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  Because of the way that you structured it as well, it's This
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  gentle because there's one thing telling a funny story and this
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  is the thing, like, over the years, people have said, like,
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  to me about, why don't you try stand-up comedy?
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  And I might because there's a difference between being funny,
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  making a joke and then being a comedian, which is like you have
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  to have so much structure and planning involved in that.
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  And it's it's just a whole other, you know, thing in
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  element. Right, exactly.
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  Right. But yeah, I really think you
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  should. You should consider that because
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  it Was thank you so much, I appreciate that.
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  I um, I think I'm gradually especially with.
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  Like I said, I had some stories that are on the shorter side, I
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  think I am probably gradually. And eventually, if I get picked
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  up by podcasting Network, that would be, that would be the
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  ultimate goal. But just while I have a smaller
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  audience, one of the perks of having people in the
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  entertainment industry, across the country, on the podcast, is
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  they get to share it. Their friends and different
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  pockets of the United States different pockets of Canada.
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  So we're I truly really appreciate that compliment and I
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  do not take it lightly. I thank you very much.
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  I also know that just because I am new.
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  I do have to kind of build with the with the guests.
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  So all right I that's the only reason why I'm still doing it
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  with guests and because I love talking to people but eventually
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  that would be it would be amazing just to do.
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  I mean, the reason I suggest it is like, you know, I think for
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  certain people, you know, when they do their podcast, they just
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  want it one particular way and it doesn't deviate like for me I
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  actually started the podcast thinking I would do it like how
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  I do the Vlog. So my YouTube channel where I
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  just told her it's on a topic because I'm able to just waffle
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  on for ages and apparently that's entertaining but quickly
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  I kind of realized like I need to kind of make this
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  multifaceted. I would like a basically having
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  lots of different elements to it.
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  So that's wherever, yeah, that's where the guests Factor came in
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  and I'm always working on it. So I get where you're coming
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  from as far as like building the format.
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  I think that obviously does take the beginning.
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  Yeah, yeah, of course, of course.
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  So yeah. Moving it forward.
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  Like what are your goals and aspirations for this podcast?
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  I would love to monetize it right now.
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  I work with different at sea. The companies I try to work with
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  big small businesses to do because I am voiceover actress,
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  I work with small businesses and I give them commercials in my
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  podcast in exchange for cross-promotion because I don't
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  have because my audience is on the smaller side at the moment,
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  I don't have larger businesses looking to work with me because
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  they don't need me, you know, I need them, they don't need me.
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  So no one's going to pay me to have a small audience, listen to
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  their commercials. So I work with audiences who Our
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  On My Level where I'm at at podcasting, they are in their
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  small business, really? So I've been working with.
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  I've worked with probably about since I started the podcast in
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  early December. I think I've worked with about
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  eight different at see businesses, I'm going to
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  continue to do that and so I'm meeting different people that
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  way which has been really cool. Eventually I would love to just
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  be making a living from it. I really am enjoying it.
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  And when the world's goes back to whatever The New Normal is, I
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  I was a retrace before this auditioning constantly and I
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  just don't want to go back to that world.
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  I know exactly where you're coming from.
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  Yeah, um, yeah. Just just on a side note, by the
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  way, because I'm definitely going to circle back to all of
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  this stuff. Like, oh yeah, I'm very thorough
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  with, with my research and for those listening at home, I want
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  to take the moment to apologize because I had no idea that Rocky
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  is a comedian or a voice actress.
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  None of that information is readily available.
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  From the links that I was looking at.
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  And I'm, I'm very thorough. So I'm quite surprised to hear
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  that, but we'll Circle back to that.
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  And yeah, yeah, it's on the podcast for now.
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  What are your podcasting goals for 2020 one?
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  My goal for 2020 one, I would like to have at least two
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  thousand followers on Instagram, I would like to be having about,
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  I would like to have 500 downloads for the week per
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  episode. So those those that's my two
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  goals and then I would love to be contacted by a podcasting
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  network. But I made the personal choice
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  that I'm not going to contact a podcasting Network, until I have
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  about probably 5,000 followers. But if I get contacted before
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  that, that would be great. And what's worse?
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  The sort of Why have you made that decision?
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  Well, because I know it will be easier to get picked up by a
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  podcast network if I have a huge following.
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  Hmm. And it also I think instead of
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  right now while I'm kind of fresh in the game instead of
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  reaching out to a podcasting Network and being like I'm a
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  little guppy and I need you more than you need me.
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  I would, I would like to see how much I can build on my own.
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  How much This I can do on my own while I have the time.
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  Mmm, do you know? So, okay, you want to have more
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  of a luck. More chips that you can put on
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  the table and be like, okay, this is what I got.
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  What do you have to offer me rather than be the one that's
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  like, hey, please support me. I need it.
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  That kind of deal. Absolutely, and to have people.
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  So and this is just from what I've heard from people yourself
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  included and I appreciate the compliment but I have been
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  getting very positive feedback from it and I think people are
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  pleasantly surprised because I am doing this on the home on my
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  own with the help. My little brother helps me a
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  little bit but I'd for the Start doing it all on my own.
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  I have been getting really positive and surprising feedback
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  like someone's like you've never done a podcast before and this
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  is the level that you're at. That's a that's a great sign.
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  So I would love to, you know, have people just know who I am
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  through word of mouth because of like have my reputation and kind
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  of lead me there, that does seem to be a lot of that in the
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  podcasting industry for a And but yeah in the community like
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  for those who aren't podcasters, what I will say is there's a big
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  Reddit Community. That's actually where I found.
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  Yeah, yeah. And yeah it's it's the sort of
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  thing where, you know, there's a lot of people there they're all
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  trying to do. They all have similar goals but
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  often the case is you know European each other's podcast
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  and and But like everyone is trying to grow and get better
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  and you can quickly kind of figure out.
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  Who's going to go far with this and who's not?
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  And I know how harsh that sounds better with.
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  I've no, no, I agree with you. I agree with you.
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  Visit and this is what I was saying before about the
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  formatting thing. Like, sometimes you'll come on
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  our show and it has a very clear format, it's very easy to follow
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  and, you know, you can tell, I'll get this as a good podcast,
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  but sometimes it's a bit of a mess or it's hard to follow.
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  I've got, I've been interviewed before and you know, I've said
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  that, I think I said this in the last episode You're one of the
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  last episodes that, you know, I'm a very expressive person.
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  So I take time talking and obviously, it's very frustrating
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  getting cut off or like, you know, being told to give a short
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  answer or whatever and it's you really got to like, adapt to
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  your guests. I think that's a real key kind
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  of aspect of this podcast in thing, right?
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  But yeah. I digress.
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  I'm losing my point. You get what I'm saying that you
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  were saying the podcast Community is very saturated.
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  It's kind of hard to come out of the muck of it.
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  Yes. And out.
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  I think my, my point is that you got to kind of conduct yourself
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  in a very professional manner and by doing so that leads you
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  to finding more and more guests. Like, I've actually had people
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  contact me out of the blue and it's not been through ready or
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  anything like that. It's just people going.
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  Oh hey, you know, I'm interested in appearing on your show that
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  interestingly over some businesses contact me, which is
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  cool. Yeah it was, it is interesting.
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  It's and it's a different approach.
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  You have to go with it as well like because I'm not really into
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  the idea of giving like free advertising for the most part.
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  So like if I do have someone on my show and they're a business
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  owner, what will plug their business?
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  But like, you know, I want to get to know them and kind of
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  their career and stuff and that's the focal point because,
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  you know, it's the whole point of this is is conversation and
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  you know often the best Some of these podcasts tend to be when
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  you get topics out of the blue things, you weren't expecting as
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  opposed to just plugging the same old stuff.
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  You know what I mean? Like, no one really wants to
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  hear that today, especially since it's a podcast, you know?
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  Absolutely, yeah. So who are your sources of
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  inspiration in the podcasting sphere?
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  So I really like Conan O'Brien needs a friend.
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  That's probably one. Wow, okay.
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  Oh my goodness, he has a podcast.
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  That's you have to, you could even start from the beginning.
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  That's something. I kind of like to do with
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  podcast. I'll always start from the
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  beginning and kind of binge it as if it were a TV show to get
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  the growth of it. I originally got into podcasts,
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  I listened to on apheresis podcast unqualified.
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  I was into that for a while and then when she lost her producer
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  since Sarva but show kind of changed a little bit and I
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  wasn't mmm. I wasn't as into it even though
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  I'm really into her, I just wasn't as into the podcast
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  anymore, but I did like her early episode so that's what
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  kind of got me into it. Conan O'Brien needs a friend is
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  hilarious. It's laugh-out-loud funny.
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  I really enjoyed Whitney Cummings podcast, especially if
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  she has a great guest and Dax Shepard armchair expert when he
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  has a really great guest Joe Rogan, Ian, because Joe Rogan
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  and Dax Shepard, they and Whitney Cummings, they tend to
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  have longer episodes. Sometimes they go about two
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  hours. Yeah.
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  So it really has to be a guest where you're like, okay, I'm in
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  this to win this, you know, I think it depends though.
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  I mean, yeah, I am I'ma Do My show a lot after Joe Rogan
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  because I think that yeah, his approach his format is something
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  that I really like, like, I mean, he he's he's very good and
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  I don't think he does he needs. I mean, I don't know if he His
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  research beforehand, but I think probably his producer does.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I would figure the same
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  thing. But when you watch the show,
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  it's very much, like, sort of a long-form chat show essentially
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  whereas with with me, you know, I kind of have all these
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  questions I have laid out and I won't necessarily ask all of
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  them but I'll try and structure in such a way that it kind of
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  has a very easy to follow format.
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  But as far as like getting close Conversation out of people is
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  concerned. Largely comes down to the guest
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  themself if they're willing to talk and also, yeah, like how
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  the host conducts himself, like I think one thing I've always
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  kind of pride myself on with this podcast is.
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  I've been able to get anyone to kind of, at least at least be
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  comfortable, you know, they don't have to speak a lot
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  because we're all different, but yeah, like, that comfortability
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  will give you well, what kind of paved the way for To be able to
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  ask certain questions, sometimes personal questions as well.
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  One of the things about doing a show like wild nights is because
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  the nature of it is to come on and tell the really wild story.
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  Usually people who are willing to tell a really wild story are
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  on the more open side. So I haven't had to struggle for
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  conversation, knock on wood, that's metal but whatever.
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  I haven't had to struggle for conversation which that's been,
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  it makes it much easier which I'm sure you know, absolutely.
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  What kind of topics other than, you know, the story itself?
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  Do you tend to discuss on the podcast?
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  Well, usually, because of the nature of what's going on.
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  I asked how people are surviving the quarantine how they're
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  surviving the pandemic, what their home, what their hopes are
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  for afterwards. That's always kind of random.
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  I do research on the guests ahead of time as well because
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  I've only known out of the 13 episodes that I've done.
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  I've only known well, probably a four or five of my guest.
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  Yells, I've reached out to on a blind email, just knowing a
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  little bit about them or their field.
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  I've reached out to them on a blind email.
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  So, The friends that are a little bit more personal, I've
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  been able to share, you know, maybe we would go back and forth
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  on a wild night that we shared together after they tell their
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  story. And then the other people, I
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  just kind of find out about their state because New York is
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  a very New York City especially as a very specific place.
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  So they don't live in this area. I'm like, what's your state
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  like, what are you guys up to? What do you know, what's your
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  hopes for the future think in terms of, you know, the party
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  world's? So, yeah, that's, that's Nowhere
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  IV are. No, that's very intelligent way
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  of going about it. It's the same for me.
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  I tend to look at those things. To me, it is tricky one with the
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  covid-19 thing because sometimes I'll look at where they're from.
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  And, you know, I'll have that question.
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  Question written down by. Don't always ask it because I
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  wonder like, do people really want to hear like it's good in a
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  way but maybe it's, Yeah, It's Tricky, isn't it?
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  Because it's like, it's happening.
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  We can't pretend it's not and our job.
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  A as content creators is to provide a medium where it's kind
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  of gives you a distraction. So obviously, if you're pulled
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  back into the reality of the situation, it just defeats the
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  point, doesn't it? But the same time, you know, you
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  don't want to completely ignore it either.
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  Right? Right, right, right, right.
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  So that's that. That's kind of where I had beer.
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  Yeah. And I think it sounds like a
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  sensible way of going about it, for sure.
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  Yeah, I know. It's still early days.
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  But what have you learned through podcasting so far?
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  I have learned that in terms of editing, doing this on my own
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  and everything I've learned, I really do have to make a
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  schedule the night before of the things I want to accomplish
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  people. I want to contact this.
• 21:27
  And that if I find somebody interesting on television
• 21:30
  nowadays, it's so easy to contact.
• 21:33
  Someone with the internet, you can copy, you know, your chances
• 21:36
  of getting somebody who has maybe five hundred thousand
• 21:39
  followers on, The Graham isn't as unlikely as you might think
• 21:42
  it is. So I've learned, I've learned
• 21:47
  the levels of Fame and recognition and like being
• 21:51
  verified the numbers. When you look at someone's
• 21:54
  Instagram, you're like, oh, they have 20,000 followers.
• 21:56
  This person is 200,000 followers.
• 21:58
  This person has a million followers, a Millions, not as
• 22:01
  much as you think, and they're not as unattainable as you
• 22:03
  think. So I've learned that a lot of
• 22:06
  guests aren't as unattainable as you think.
• 22:09
  I've learned to Kind of beetroot, not kind of to totally
• 22:12
  be true to myself. Everybody's gift in the world.
• 22:17
  Is that your yourself, mmm? You know what I mean?
• 22:20
  Nobody is anybody else? So there's your not, right, and
• 22:25
  you're never going to be good at being someone else.
• 22:27
  I mean, unless you're an actor preparing for a role or
• 22:30
  something like that, but in terms of being your authentic
• 22:32
  self in a podcast, nobody has the gift of being you.
• 22:36
  So just give them the best gift to the only thing you can be,
• 22:39
  which is yourself. So, I try if I hear another
• 22:43
  podcast ago, that that was so funny.
• 22:46
  I should do something like that but no, just do what, you know
• 22:50
  is true to you. I don't know if this was the
• 22:52
  same episode that you've listened to you, but I want.
• 22:56
  I'm speaking. I'm Joe Rogan, I was very stoned
• 23:00
  going to bed and I allowed to say that on this podcast, okay?
• 23:05
  I was I was very stoned going to bed.
• 23:10
  And I was laying in bed and I'm scrolling through Instagram.
• 23:13
  And I saw Joe Rogan posted that aliens were going to touch Earth
• 23:16
  in 180 days and then my mind starts wandering.
• 23:20
  And I start thinking, what if aliens come to Earth and they
• 23:24
  start intergate integrating themselves into our communities
• 23:29
  and stuff people, you know, humans are adaptable.
• 23:32
  We're going to start like dating them.
• 23:35
  And there's going to be kind of like this thing and then I go.
• 23:38
  Would I have sex? That alien is that something I
• 23:41
  would do. And so, I just started without
• 23:44
  judgment. I just without judgment took my
• 23:47
  notebook, which I always have a notebook next to my bed and I
• 23:50
  did, I took my notebook and I started writing, I started
• 23:54
  writing this poem called what I bang an alien.
• 23:57
  Yeah, remember this is good, I tweaked.
• 24:00
  Yeah and I wrote it and it was silly, but it was also like a
• 24:05
  little raunchy. So it wasn't like totally PG-13,
• 24:08
  the silly it was raunchy and it Was a little vulnerable because
• 24:12
  that's not a comedy medium that people usually go to is, I poems
• 24:17
  that's not super popular in terms of like what's popular in
• 24:20
  pop culture for comedy. But I was proud of it and I
• 24:24
  thought it was funny and I, I said, this is your podcast.
• 24:29
  You can do whatever you want on it, put the poem in the podcast
• 24:33
  and the response I got was so positive people really loved it.
• 24:40
  They thought It was so funny. And, you know, there could be
• 24:43
  people out there who are like, oh, this girl sucks like that,
• 24:45
  but, but I don't care about them.
• 24:47
  I got a positive response from it and I got it from just being
• 24:50
  myself and saying. This is my form of Comedy, My
• 24:53
  form of comedy and maybe I don't do.
• 24:55
  I've always been an improviser and did it pop for 10 years?
• 24:59
  I never tried stand up. Only like I'm holding court at a
• 25:02
  party or something, but so I and I never considered myself a
• 25:08
  writer, the pod. In the podcast.
• 25:11
  I've started to consider myself a comedy writer, and so, I'm
• 25:15
  just trusting myself, where, where my thoughts go?
• 25:19
  Yeah, I think you're onto something there for sure.
• 25:21
  Thank you. I really, really enjoyed.
• 25:23
  I said, I would say to my listeners.
• 25:25
  Now, make sure you go check out. Wild Nights with Rocky pal,
• 25:28
  cause it's a very good point loss.
• 25:30
  Thank you so much. Oh, no.
• 25:32
  I'm being, I'm being honest. Being sincere, appreciate that.
• 25:35
  I think I even subscribe to the channel as well enjoyed it so
• 25:38
  well. Much.
• 25:40
  I really appreciate that. Let's Circle back to the The
• 25:47
  Prague game people in the podcast with a lot of viewers.
• 25:49
  Have you actually managed to get anyone without blue checks?
• 25:52
  Or like a hundreds of thousands of followers or whatever?
• 25:55
  I have got it in, not a blue check.
• 26:00
  My guest, this week has is a very popular Canadian drag
• 26:05
  artist named Rogue. I they had about, they have the
• 26:11
  most followers of all my guests so far and I've had seven shows
• 26:14
  and they had Twelve thousand followers.
• 26:18
  Okay. Yeah, it's pretty sizable.
• 26:20
  Have you ever heard of the TV show?
• 26:21
  Big Brother. You know as in the yeah I think
• 26:26
  it's an elimination. I didn't know if they had it.
• 26:29
  Yeah we originated it here in the UK.
• 26:32
  Oh that's awesome. It's a great show.
• 26:34
  Its face. If anyone doesn't know what big
• 26:36
  brother is it's a reality TV show, they put 16 people in a
• 26:39
  house and they do challenges. One person is the head of
• 26:42
  household so they're in charge of nominating two people to go
• 26:45
  home. And And it's just challenges,
• 26:47
  it's like a social game but also physical game and a mental game.
• 26:51
  And I was I contacted a lot of people from the later seasons of
• 26:56
  Big Brother and I heard, I heard back from three of them which
• 27:02
  was incredible. I'm like, oh my God, I watch
• 27:03
  these people on TV and one of them, one of her people
• 27:08
  contacted me back, and she kind of, and she kind of was like,
• 27:11
  you know, you have a low following.
• 27:12
  I don't know if we, you know, those people that, yeah.
• 27:16
  And the other two said they would be down to do it.
• 27:19
  And they responded back to me and they have probably over
• 27:22
  200,000 followers, each and a verified cheque.
• 27:26
  But when I contacted them back, one of them, he hasn't gotten
• 27:29
  back to me and the other one said, yeah, I'm totally down to
• 27:32
  do this etc, etc. And when I sent her the
• 27:35
  follow-up, I haven't heard back from her but I'm not like
• 27:39
  counting my. You know, I might send one more
• 27:41
  follow-up, but if I don't hear back from them, that's totally
• 27:44
  fine, you know. Maybe it's not A good fit for
• 27:46
  them, and I'm just going to keep pursuing.
• 27:48
  Like I said, my luck with guest has been great, so I'm just
• 27:52
  going to keep going for it. I'm gonna have a little bit of a
• 27:55
  mini rant here, so I hope you don't mind.
• 27:57
  It's just a 5-10 minute thing. So there would be that look,
• 28:02
  basically, the reason that I asked about those eyes that I've
• 28:05
  had similar situations contacting people and The
• 28:11
  problem I have with it is that you know as you said it doesn't
• 28:15
  really matter how many followers someone has I mean you can have
• 28:19
  a million followers but then you can only maybe only ten thousand
• 28:23
  of those people actually interact with the content, same
• 28:26
  with YouTube. You know, there's Youtubers with
• 28:28
  like 10 million Subs, but the only get like, I say only but
• 28:32
  you'll get like two million views per video.
• 28:34
  So there's still like, you know, 80% of people not watching the
• 28:37
  video, right? It's just how it works, right?
• 28:40
  But when it comes to like contacting that quote unquote,
• 28:43
  famous people, there it does seem to be this issue and it
• 28:47
  pisses me off that you know you have these PR people and
• 28:50
  sometimes a lot of times, the people themselves kind of
• 28:53
  looking at your following and kind of laughing at it like or
• 28:56
  just not taking you seriously, I can't believe the guy but I
• 28:59
  reached out to and I said this on the podcast before so I
• 29:02
  apologize to anyone. He's already heard me rant but
• 29:05
  since we're talking about it, I reached out to this one wrestler
• 29:08
  because I'm a fan of pro wrestling.
• 29:10
  And he got he got in contact with me, you know he replied and
• 29:15
  everything. So I was pretty stoked and you
• 29:17
  know this is guys on weekly television and everything and
• 29:21
  then yeah, just went cold on me basically.
• 29:26
  I don't know why. You know, he said that he was
• 29:28
  willing to work out dates and stuff and then I would guess I'm
• 29:32
  just theorizing that he looked at the numbers and he was like,
• 29:36
  Screw who's this vertically? And the thing is, it's not.
• 29:40
  Not about how many numbers you have.
• 29:42
  And the thing is I know how this is going to make me sound, but
• 29:45
  this podcast will have good numbers one day.
• 29:48
  I'm certain of it is a feeling, I know, you know, maybe it's
• 29:53
  slightly egotistical to say that you know.
• 29:55
  But when you have a good feeling about something and it's going
• 29:58
  well, Nothing can stop you gentlemen.
• 30:01
  Like, I'm looking at quality the podcast improving versus when I
• 30:04
  did the first five, this is episode 60.
• 30:07
  So we've gotten we've gotten quite far.
• 30:10
  I'm getting all sorts of different guests on the show,
• 30:12
  like, we're going somewhere with this.
• 30:13
  It's only a matter of time. And I felt that that's the thing
• 30:17
  that you can have loads and loads of followers, but you can
• 30:19
  still be a really shitty interviewer.
• 30:22
  Like, I've discovered like being a good interviewer takes various
• 30:25
  different skills. And I think that's far more
• 30:28
  important than like, how many Which you have and the thing is,
• 30:31
  is a two-way thing. So like yeah, okay, they might
• 30:34
  be looking at your profile going.
• 30:36
  How's this going to benefit me? What?
• 30:37
  I'll tell you how it will benefit you.
• 30:39
  It will benefit you from the perspective of this person.
• 30:43
  Might ask me questions that no one else thinks to ask me if I'm
• 30:47
  on a chat show. Let's say, I do like Jimmy
• 30:51
  Kimmel Jimmy Fallon. I fucking hate that guy.
• 30:53
  I'll tell you what, and then I'll tell you why I love him.
• 30:58
  Well, the personal Even and maybe it will sway you but go
• 31:01
  ahead. Okay, well I don't know how you
• 31:03
  can stand that fake laughs crap. I've told people on my guests,
• 31:08
  on my show to go check out the episode where he's interviewing
• 31:12
  Ryan Gosling and clearly pissing him off with his questioning and
• 31:15
  fake laugh. But anyway, this isn't about
• 31:19
  him. But the point is when people go
• 31:21
  on those shows, celebrities go on these shows.
• 31:23
  The whole thing is kind of stage in a way that it's not a proper
• 31:26
  interview. It's kind of just, hey, here's
• 31:29
  your latest. Act, all she's some funny stuff,
• 31:31
  will make a little entertaining bit for like 10 minutes and then
• 31:34
  it's done, right? But I always walk out of that
• 31:36
  kind of thinking is, it's disappointing.
• 31:38
  There's so many things. You could ask this person about.
• 31:40
  And like, how did they feel when they did this particular role in
• 31:43
  this particular moment or what about this incident?
• 31:45
  There's so many things you could ask them.
• 31:48
  And that's what I look at. When I'm looking at my podcast
• 31:50
  is like if I had got if I got a big person on my show yeah I'm
• 31:53
  not going to ask them. I'm going to approach it
• 31:55
  differently. I'm not going to ask them the
• 31:57
  stuff that everyone else is asked.
• 31:58
  I'm going to ask them Things that I haven't heard them talk
• 32:02
  about or at least you know, try to ask them different questions
• 32:06
  and something make it a bit more interesting, right?
• 32:09
  That is the value that I think is offered in, you know,
• 32:13
  appearing on someone show who yeah, maybe doesn't have the
• 32:16
  following yet that's because the thing is yeah those people get
• 32:19
  interviewed all the time like hundreds of times in a month
• 32:23
  probably and yeah they get bored of it and stuff but you know why
• 32:26
  they get bored of it because all those people work in the
• 32:29
  entertainment industry, Stray and they're told you can only
• 32:31
  ask them this, you have to ask them this where his own podcast,
• 32:34
  you don't have that issue, you know, this is uncensored, I can
• 32:37
  ask someone, whatever the hell I want.
• 32:39
  So that's my little mini ran on that.
• 32:43
  Why? I loved that rant?
• 32:45
  I have a couple things to say. The reason I can't hate Jimmy
• 32:47
  Fallon. Do you know who the Chef Guy
• 32:50
  Fieri is? Yes, I worked at his restaurant,
• 32:54
  in Times Square for five years, I opened that restaurant and I
• 32:58
  closed yet. When I I was in my early 20s
• 33:01
  early to mid-twenties and Jimmy Fallon guys had gone on Jimmy
• 33:07
  Fallon show and to promote the restaurant opening and he named
• 33:13
  a drink after Jimmy Fallon. It was called the Jimmy Fallon,
• 33:16
  boozy creamsicle, it was on our menu and it was this big like
• 33:21
  sugary slushy drink, we've hated making them but or like getting
• 33:24
  them from the bar because it came in these gigantic cups and
• 33:27
  everything was a nightmare but it was named after Jimmy Fallon.
• 33:30
  So, Jimmy Fallon came in the restaurant and I had to wait on
• 33:33
  him and so I go up to his table and I go oh, I think we might
• 33:38
  have a drink named after you just trying to be cute.
• 33:41
  See, whatever. And he got his meal comped
• 33:46
  because when celebrities came in through that restaurant, they
• 33:48
  didn't have to pay for anything. So they just booed, leave a tip
• 33:51
  and Jimmy Fallon left me a hundred dollars on no tip and
• 33:55
  just having one drink and like an order of chicken nuggets.
• 33:57
  So I can't hate on. Jimmy Fallon because he
• 34:00
  personally paid me $100 to basically do nothing but I know
• 34:04
  a lot of people are bothered by his fake laugh.
• 34:07
  And that's a good comment thing. I think even my brother the
• 34:10
  other night was like, I can't watch this, he's fake laughing
• 34:12
  and or maybe was a friend of mine.
• 34:14
  We were watching his interview with RuPaul, but the reason that
• 34:19
  doesn't sway me a couple of reasons.
• 34:23
  This is trip when I went to the states.
• 34:24
  Back in 2014. I discovered what the tip
• 34:27
  culture was like. I had no idea in the We don't
• 34:30
  have the same tip system. You get flat.
• 34:33
  Oh, I'm very aware, right? Are you guys having different
• 34:36
  tips, right? Waitresses here, you know people
• 34:39
  working in I've worked in hospitality industry, you get
• 34:41
  paid? Yeah, the wage and then anything
• 34:44
  on top of that is great but it's not.
• 34:45
  It doesn't count towards your wages.
• 34:47
  Whereas in America, you get paid like nothing and you're living
• 34:52
  off the tips, right? So, and so he had to tip anyway.
• 34:57
  Secondly, if he doesn't tip a high amount, right?
• 35:01
  Imagine how that looks for his PR, the guy is Rich.
• 35:05
  He's successful, right? He has to if I was rich and
• 35:08
  successful I would have to every time I would go H just what you
• 35:11
  have to do. You're a celebrity and you you
• 35:14
  know, you're earning a lot of money, you have to do that.
• 35:16
  So that doesn't, you know, didn't mean like actually what I
• 35:20
  do think is more important is what was he like when you were
• 35:23
  serving him was he dismissive or some nice?
• 35:27
  No. Pleasant kind and just very
• 35:30
  personable sweet. He had a good energy and also my
• 35:35
  ex-boyfriend, the one that actually called an interrupted
• 35:37
  this podcast. I don't have as many ties to
• 35:40
  him. I'd always come up a lot and
• 35:42
  it's just because he interrupted us, but he used to work in a
• 35:45
  restaurant close to where Jimmy Fallon worked in Rockefeller
• 35:48
  Center and Jimmy Fallon. I'm becoming like once a week
• 35:51
  and he would always tell me that.
• 35:52
  Jimmy Fallon was like, gracious, a good Tipper because his meals
• 35:55
  weren't free. They're great.
• 35:57
  It's just good, Tipper kind personable.
• 36:00
  But I mean, I've had friends that have hated Jimmy Fallon
• 36:03
  since I was in high school because he would break on SNL
• 36:06
  sketches and stuff. So I know, especially men for
• 36:10
  some reason. I know he's not, everyone's cup
• 36:12
  of tea, I don't have a problem with him.
• 36:13
  I think he's fun and funny and cute.
• 36:15
  See, but I know that your opinion is not an unpopular.
• 36:19
  One credit record is true. If he's a nice guy in real life,
• 36:24
  then fair enough because I don't know the guy personally,
• 36:27
  Obviously I'm yeah showing that the thing is, right?
• 36:31
  I liked the show originally and then I started seeing him doing
• 36:35
  that. Fake laughing crap and the thing
• 36:37
  is he doesn't have to do that. That's a conscious choice,
• 36:41
  right? And the thing is, it's a great
• 36:43
  show, he's got a good band there, he's a talented like
• 36:46
  person as far as comedy and music is concerned so it puzzles
• 36:50
  me that he does that like it's frustrating you know because if
• 36:55
  that was just him and he was just like An ass and you know,
• 36:59
  that that would be one thing. But as you have sort of
• 37:01
  Illustrated right behind the scenes, he's not like that.
• 37:04
  So it's like, why is he doing that?
• 37:06
  That's the frustration, but at least.
• 37:08
  Okay, we've learned that he's a nice guy in real life.
• 37:10
  So fair enough. That's good.
• 37:13
  That's good. Yeah, let's talk about a couple
• 37:18
  more questions for you on podcasting.
• 37:21
  What do you like most about podcasting?
• 37:27
  I like after doing the interviews with people, I like
• 37:33
  the post conversation, there's been like I've gotten a lot of
• 37:36
  gems of conversation out of just not stuff that even wasn't on
• 37:41
  film. Okay?
• 37:43
  And recorded, just I'm really liking the connections to people
• 37:48
  like even someone like you, like now we have this connection.
• 37:52
  I'm never going to forget you, we're going to bold.
• 37:54
  Probably continue our podcasting Journey Gather, you know what I
• 37:57
  mean? And watch each other grow and
• 37:58
  now like when I go over to England, I have a friend over
• 38:02
  there that I can like grab a drink with.
• 38:04
  You know what I mean when you come here you have a friend, you
• 38:06
  can like grab a drink with and we can kind of like now we're
• 38:09
  like coming up in this thing together.
• 38:12
  I've met a couple radio DJs from across the United States, who
• 38:16
  now I'm liking unliking their pictures on Instagram.
• 38:19
  They're liking my stuff on Instagram and I'm liking I'm
• 38:24
  loving doing the podcast. Because I love the finished
• 38:28
  product of it, but I'm more. So I've always been a very
• 38:31
  social person so and the pandemic has put a halt on my
• 38:36
  social life. So meeting new people is always
• 38:39
  been great for me. So meeting people in my field
• 38:43
  who are cool and fun and spread out all over the country that
• 38:48
  has been the most rewarding part and I'm so excited to continue
• 38:52
  making those connections with people.
• 38:54
  That's awesome. That's really wholesome.
• 38:57
  What are the challenges associated with podcasting for
• 39:01
  you? The first challenge is getting
• 39:05
  the episode together, I don't mind editing, it's just long,
• 39:11
  you know, it's a really long process and it takes hours.
• 39:15
  I don't think people realize that, you know, a 30-minute
• 39:18
  interview especially I like to cut out the likes and thumbs and
• 39:23
  has and a 30-minute interview, could take about eight or nine
• 39:28
  hours to edit. Damn.
• 39:30
  Hey yeah. Well for me like I do, I am so,
• 39:33
  Take you less about it because I like a dead.
• 39:35
  Are I hate dead are so odd for me, the editing and just making
• 39:40
  sure everything's perfect. That's really challenging and
• 39:44
  then just the the growth of it, you know, it's growing very,
• 39:49
  very slowly. So I think the challenge of not
• 39:54
  getting discouraged and saying just keep you keep your foot on
• 39:57
  the gas. I actually, this is so corny but
• 40:00
  I actually, I have a notebook. And the notebook.
• 40:03
  I right, you know, my to-do list for the next day with the
• 40:06
  podcast, so I have to put this up, I have to, you know, contact
• 40:09
  this person. I have to edit this thing for
• 40:11
  this many hours, but in the back of the notebook, I started
• 40:14
  writing backwards and I'll write like my small accomplishments
• 40:18
  for the day. Like, oh, I hit this goal.
• 40:21
  Oh, I talked to this person. Oh, I got this done.
• 40:23
  Oh, this person reached out to me.
• 40:25
  So, if I'm ever feeling discouraged, I can go back and
• 40:28
  read my accomplishments so far. And Like keep going.
• 40:33
  You know what I mean? That's a really good idea.
• 40:36
  Yeah. It's a nice important to focus
• 40:38
  on small goals in the little things.
• 40:40
  Built a little bigger things. I mean, certainly in these times
• 40:43
  I think it's very important. One thing I wanted to Circle
• 40:47
  back to real quick and I keep saying that but there's just so
• 40:49
  many things to ask, man. I'm like, we're in it.
• 40:52
  So, you mentioned that, you know, you Concept in these
• 40:57
  people with a lot of followers, sometimes with blue ticks and
• 41:00
  stuff, and I find this interesting because I contacted
• 41:04
  someone who I think he has a blue check.
• 41:06
  I don't know another wrestler. And the reason that I did is he
• 41:09
  actually dropped his business, email in a tweet and I was like,
• 41:15
  why not? You know, I always contact
• 41:17
  people then usually never ever go back to me, but you never
• 41:20
  know, and he got back to me and I don't know if it was his
• 41:23
  management or him personally, but he actually said, yeah,
• 41:26
  here's my fee and I'm like For podcast.
• 41:31
  Is that usual, is that and I talk to my friends about it and
• 41:33
  they were like, that's weird. Have you ever had anything like
• 41:35
  that? No, I haven't had.
• 41:38
  Anyone tell me, they're priced. And if somebody was like Hey you
• 41:42
  know you're going to have to pay me $500 or whatever amount of
• 41:44
  money. They wanted to be on the
• 41:45
  podcast. I would just say well then you
• 41:48
  know you're not going to be on the podcast because I certainly
• 41:51
  can't pay you. I don't know.
• 41:52
  It's like you know bigger podcast like we were talking
• 41:54
  about Joe Rogan and I don't know if he pays those guests or they
• 41:58
  get a stipend of Some sort. But yeah, I haven't experienced
• 42:02
  that I did experience something a little strange.
• 42:06
  So I saw this musician and I won't use names.
• 42:09
  I'll tell you off camera, if you like, but I won't use names on
• 42:13
  the podcast. But I saw a guy viewed, my story
• 42:17
  early on this is about, you know, five, six weeks ago this.
• 42:21
  Yeah, this happens a lot, man. I will.
• 42:23
  Yeah, we'll start again verify, cheque.
• 42:25
  Look. Yeah, yes.
• 42:27
  So I just had this one guy. Now I have a lot of verified.
• 42:31
  Yeah. Nope.
• 42:32
  Nobody following but a lot and so I thought that's interesting
• 42:35
  how that comes up in the algorithm but we digress.
• 42:38
  So this guy who's a musician. Look at my story.
• 42:41
  So I did a little little research on them and I go, okay,
• 42:45
  he's got about 17 thousand followers.
• 42:47
  Oh, okay. He's really good at playing in
• 42:49
  this band, okay? I've never heard of him, but
• 42:52
  that doesn't mean he's not anybody.
• 42:54
  So I found his email and I said if he's interested in, In mind
• 42:59
  if he's watching my story a multiple times, he's obviously
• 43:02
  like maybe he's listen to an episode.
• 43:04
  Maybe he knows somebody who knows the what the connection
• 43:06
  is. So I follow him and I email him
• 43:10
  and I asked him to be on the show.
• 43:12
  He responds. So I'm over the moon.
• 43:15
  Oh my God! This is the early days.
• 43:18
  I'm getting somebody so big and he's getting my first big.
• 43:22
  Guess this is so exciting. I'm on the right trajectory,
• 43:24
  exactly. So then I notice that now I
• 43:30
  start to notice a couple weird things and I honestly have a
• 43:33
  reputation for getting scammed a lot like to the point where now,
• 43:37
  like my friends and family are not surprised when I get scammed
• 43:40
  because I call this hands all the time, which is a horrible
• 43:43
  thing to say to the world, but it's true and I'm trying to get
• 43:47
  better at it and this is an example of me getting better at
• 43:49
  it. So he says, yes, we'll figure
• 43:51
  out a date Etc. So when I respond back to him
• 43:54
  like oh let's figure out a date, I don't hear anything.
• 43:57
  So we start like, you know, doing a little research on his
• 43:59
  profile and Guy notice for the amount of followers.
• 44:03
  He has, he sure doesn't have a lot of likes on his picture.
• 44:06
  He's getting 60. Likes on his picture and I'm
• 44:10
  like, in my personal Instagram. I have twelve hundred followers
• 44:12
  and I get more than 60 likes on a picture.
• 44:14
  Why do you why do you have seventeen thousand followers?
• 44:17
  And you're not getting a lot of likes.
• 44:18
  That smells like somebody bought their followers to me.
• 44:21
  Yeah. Then he tagged, he said he had
• 44:25
  his own Eric labeled, he tagged a very well-known artist, who I
• 44:33
  was like, oh, he's associated with this person and I clicked
• 44:36
  on that person's profile. I was like, oh I didn't even
• 44:39
  know, this person had an Instagram, I'll follow them and
• 44:41
  I clicked on their profile, that profile didn't exist.
• 44:44
  I'm like, okay, well, why would they tag that person if they
• 44:47
  don't exist? Then I went to his Spotify and
• 44:50
  he was asking for donations but not saying what he was asking
• 44:53
  for donations for, so then Type in his name and I write the word
• 44:58
  scam in Google turns out. He's like a scam artist.
• 45:03
  He came up, he like, he made his own like magazine where he like
• 45:06
  a lot. It was like so obvious.
• 45:08
  He lied about the questions and the answers and so obvious, he
• 45:11
  wrote the questions to ask himself, like they were just so
• 45:15
  pointed. And and so he's been contacting
• 45:18
  me and now he put his label manager or something on the
• 45:21
  emails with me and he's like, hey, we'd love to get him on the
• 45:24
  podcast and I have kind You've just been like, oh, you know,
• 45:29
  we're very booked on guess right now, but I'll definitely
• 45:31
  contact. You contacted me again.
• 45:33
  Hey, we'd love to get a solid date for him.
• 45:35
  On the podcast. I said I would reach out in
• 45:36
  2021, thank you so much like bubble and then they contact me
• 45:39
  a third time and I kind of was a bit Curt or her but yeah, I was
• 45:45
  like oh God this guy's just a scam artist.
• 45:47
  Like I don't want him to be on my podcast and then eventually
• 45:50
  in like five years. If he tries to scam the wrong
• 45:52
  person or something comes out about him that I don't want to
• 45:55
  even be associated. It with this person.
• 45:57
  So yeah, I mean there you do have to be careful just because
• 46:00
  someone has seventeen thousand followers and a verified cheque.
• 46:03
  I mean, I know a girl who banged somebody who who had the power
• 46:07
  to give her the verified cheque and she's just like a, you know,
• 46:10
  Small Time Canadian. Yeah.
• 46:12
  She's a small-time comedian and she has the verified next door
• 46:14
  because she slept with the person who had the power to do
• 46:17
  that. So that means it means nothing.
• 46:20
  Don't let like we as people who don't have a verified check next
• 46:24
  door, named should not let it intimidate acid.
• 46:26
  This stage of the game. It's Madness man.
• 46:29
  I mean, I got to say yeah there are a lot of scams out there.
• 46:31
  Especially now during this 19 epidemic, it's kind of sickening
• 46:35
  to me. I mean I will say with this in
• 46:39
  particular for instance I'm a musician and I posted up on his
• 46:44
  own on my Instagram page and every time I do that, I get
• 46:49
  Inundated with these messages from these basic.
• 46:54
  Okay? So it's a really weird scam.
• 46:56
  Basically a profile will contact you and we'll be like, hey, you
• 47:01
  know we really loved your song, Blah, Blah, Blah, Blah.
• 47:04
  If you pay us x and x amount will feature your video on our
• 47:07
  profile. Now, here's the interesting
• 47:09
  thing about the scam, they actually do what they say
• 47:13
  they're going to do right. They damage the video, they put
• 47:16
  it on there and, you know, it's Italy gets eczema of use and all
• 47:22
  these likes and stuff. Now when you do further
• 47:24
  investigation, you realize all of those followers are bought or
• 47:28
  fake or whatever. It's all fake comments, it's
• 47:31
  disheartening for me. Guy does I think it happened one
• 47:35
  time to me, but it was only like, $4 something small and I
• 47:39
  thought I'll try just to see if it's a scam and I like I
• 47:42
  haven't. Well hasn't burned a hole in my
• 47:43
  pocket but they are scamming loads of musicians this way.
• 47:48
  And yeah, there's so many Any sort of?
• 47:51
  Scams like this. But the one you just laid out
• 47:53
  there is really elaborate like that's kind of a bit crazy but
• 47:57
  another thing that's what he does.
• 47:58
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, exactly, exactly.
• 48:02
  Another thing I wanted to say as well, just on this topic is that
• 48:06
  I think those profiles, the Blue Tick, check marks that that sort
• 48:11
  of view your stories on Instagram.
• 48:13
  I think there's a number of reasons why that happens one of
• 48:16
  them I think is that you know, if you're getting a lot of views
• 48:19
  on your track Turn on your stuff.
• 48:21
  Anyway, then they sort of find you for the explore page or few
• 48:24
  hashtags or whatever. So that's an element of it all.
• 48:27
  So I don't actually think I'd say like nine times out of ten.
• 48:30
  I don't think it's the real person or the musicians.
• 48:32
  It's like, their PR team, trying to build a following or
• 48:35
  whatever. And I think I mean, here's the
• 48:39
  thing is a bit weird because a lot of the time you'd expect
• 48:41
  them to just follow you in the hope that you follow back and,
• 48:45
  you know, start a job. Yeah.
• 48:46
  Unfollow follow thing. But yeah, instead they just You
• 48:50
  your story and I think it's more invested - I think they're just
• 48:54
  kind of. Yeah.
• 48:55
  Trying to say like oh is this person worth, you know, doing
• 48:59
  something with or maybe? I don't know and this theorizing
• 49:01
  but I don't actually think it's the person.
• 49:03
  I think it's a team behind them somehow.
• 49:05
  I think you're right. Yeah, I think you're right.
• 49:08
  But anyways. Yeah, so you're multi-talented
• 49:13
  you've got a lot of different things that you're doing.
• 49:17
  You mentioned. You did 10 years of improv, talk
• 49:19
  to us a little bit about that. That.
• 49:21
  So when I graduated college, I went to school for theater of my
• 49:25
  bachelor's in theater and acting.
• 49:28
  Sorry. Take my low battery.
• 49:30
  Just gave up that someone who doesn't charge your cell phone
• 49:33
  all night. So I have my degree in theater
• 49:36
  and when I graduated, everyone said, you have to take improv
• 49:41
  classes because you want to be good, commercial auditions, are
• 49:46
  going strictly. Ask you to improvise.
• 49:49
  So you need to know how to act. Yes.
• 49:50
  But you also need to know how to improvise.
• 49:52
  So about six months. After I graduated, I started
• 49:54
  taking improv classes and Took improv classes for about a year
• 50:00
  and a half. Then started /. 4 + v 6 months.
• 50:03
  In started, performing improv with friends.
• 50:06
  I still have to this day and then I started taking more
• 50:11
  improv classes. I don't know if you've ever
• 50:12
  heard of UCB, but I was taking classes there and say Upright
• 50:16
  Citizens Brigade, Amy Poehler's, the founder of it, and it's like
• 50:20
  the biggest improv theater in in New York and l.a.
• 50:23
  Ah, but not the biggest in the country, the upright.
• 50:28
  Second City I would say is like the most famous one, but we
• 50:31
  digress from that. But yeah, I took improv classes
• 50:34
  and then I was doing performing with independent teams, which
• 50:37
  independent improv teams are teams that you form with your
• 50:41
  friends and you book your own shows and everything.
• 50:44
  So you're not affiliated with the theater, even though you may
• 50:47
  have met through a theater, you're not affiliated with the
• 50:49
  theater and you booked all your own shows.
• 50:51
  Now, when you become a billy ated with the theater, if you
• 50:53
  audition to be on a house team, that's what they call them if
• 50:56
  you audition to be on a house team for Better than you have a
• 50:58
  built-in show every week. They choose who you're on a team
• 51:02
  with. They choose when you perform and
• 51:05
  who you perform with steadily for about six months.
• 51:07
  And then they switch it up, or they keep it the same for
• 51:10
  another six months, etcetera, Etc.
• 51:12
  So I did improv for about three years and then I was placed on a
• 51:16
  house team in January of 2014, and I stayed on a house team
• 51:21
  till at this theater. Called The People's improv
• 51:24
  theater. I was on a house team there for
• 51:26
  a little over six years and then Then I was on a team at the
• 51:30
  theater called The Armory for about a year and a half before
• 51:33
  the pandemic, or maybe it was only like eight months and then
• 51:35
  the pandemic it. But yeah, I was doing improv,
• 51:39
  you know, since I was 22, I was doing improv at least once a
• 51:44
  week sometimes, four times a week.
• 51:46
  We do is short for more long form, long form.
• 51:50
  Okay. Okay.
• 51:51
  And do you prefer a long-form? Yeah, I have not really,
• 51:55
  although I think, you know, short form is really fun.
• 51:58
  And I never really got into it. There was the long form seen in
• 52:03
  New York is much bigger than the short form seen.
• 52:06
  And so I think I just always kind of gravitated towards that.
• 52:09
  And then because I never really tried to seek out, doing short
• 52:14
  form, I didn't do it, but I have some friends that do short form
• 52:18
  and I would have no problem doing short form.
• 52:21
  And I actually think short form is a little bit more lucrative,
• 52:24
  because it's more digestible for the masses.
• 52:28
  But, yeah, I always stuck with long-form.
• 52:30
  Do you tend to go more for the contest side of improv comedy?
• 52:35
  Or do you go for, you know, like, particular jobs where it
• 52:40
  will allow you to do? So, what do you mean?
• 52:44
  So I actually had another guest on here.
• 52:46
  Who was improv comedian? And he basically as I understand
• 52:51
  he's So more in training, so he's been doing it for a couple
• 52:54
  of years. Now, he basically said that
• 52:56
  like, you know, his focus at the moment is more contests and
• 53:00
  stuff, but he has like this improv group, and we sort of got
• 53:04
  into the conversation of like, well, can you earn a living from
• 53:08
  this? Like, what, what's the deal
• 53:09
  there? And I understood that from the
• 53:11
  contests perspective, obviously, you can win, you know, there's
• 53:15
  championships. You can win money from that
• 53:17
  blah, blah blah. There is also opportunities to
• 53:21
  earn a living from this. In different fields I just
• 53:22
  wondered like have you had the opportunity to do so and if so
• 53:25
  we're not contests I've not heard of that here.
• 53:31
  Okay, contest in prods I know that they what we have a lot of
• 53:35
  improv festivals which you have to pay to do and they're all
• 53:39
  over the country have actually performed in England.
• 53:42
  There was an Improv Festival. I think I did it in two
• 53:45
  thousand, fourteen or fifteen but I yeah I got to perform in
• 53:48
  England in London. That was really cool.
• 53:51
  The contest, I've not heard of I would say how somebody makes a
• 53:54
  living from improv. Here is usually they, you know,
• 53:59
  they get really involved in the community and they'll either get
• 54:03
  a job writing or they'll start to write their own characters
• 54:06
  through improv. And then start auditioning for
• 54:09
  comedy or coming up with their own, kind of Comedy seeing, but
• 54:13
  to make it a living from improv shows here is pretty difficult.
• 54:19
  It's more. So what the improv shows this
• 54:21
  Make stepping stones to get you somewhere else in comedy, rather
• 54:25
  than making a living from improv and have used another still
• 54:29
  sorry to interrupt going? No, no, no.
• 54:31
  I was just going to say improv hones other skills and it opens
• 54:34
  other doors, but yeah, like those house team shows I was
• 54:37
  doing. I wasn't making a living from
• 54:39
  it, but, you know, you would get commercial opportunities through
• 54:42
  the theater. They'll send you emails, so you
• 54:44
  can audition for this, you can audition for this so that that
• 54:46
  would be how the money was made. Okay, thanks for enlightening us
• 54:49
  so much. Yeah.
• 54:52
  Like a you thinking of sort of continuing to do this obviously
• 54:56
  Post covid in the future. I mean you you mentioned that
• 55:00
  you did it for sort of ten years something's.
• 55:02
  Yeah. Is, are you looking to move past
• 55:04
  it or is it something that's still going to be in your sphere
• 55:06
  in terms of work? Well, before covid, I was
• 55:10
  performing at two theaters one on Wednesdays and went on
• 55:12
  Fridays, the theater that I was performing on Fridays that I
• 55:16
  would describe as more gorilla improv, it was just people who
• 55:21
  have you ever heard of Real theater, Ivan was the so.
• 55:24
  Guerrilla theater is when something's like very raw and
• 55:27
  authentic. It's usually like black box
• 55:30
  theater and they're not trying to do it for.
• 55:33
  Like there's no bells and whistles, it's raw theater.
• 55:39
  Yeah. And not even spelled like
• 55:40
  gorilla, it's spelled gu ER I ll a but so the theater I was
• 55:46
  performing on Friday is more of a guerrilla theater, a more raw
• 55:50
  theater, a more For everybody who's doing this is doing this
• 55:53
  because they absolutely love improv.
• 55:56
  It's almost like underground. I don't want to say cultish
• 55:59
  because I it's not a cult but it's more dedicated.
• 56:05
  No bells and whistles I have I do perform with those that
• 56:09
  theater over Zoom every other Friday night or so just to stay
• 56:13
  involved with the community and if it opens up after covid I
• 56:17
  would continue to perform with them.
• 56:21
  But hopefully that would that would probably be the only
• 56:24
  improv theater I would continue with.
• 56:26
  I don't think I was planning on leaving the my Wednesday night
• 56:31
  theater just because it was like you know when you can feel that
• 56:34
  it's time it was time for me to kind of leave there.
• 56:37
  So yeah, I would continue with the Friday night, Guerrilla
• 56:40
  theater improv and then probably put my focus elsewhere.
• 56:45
  Fair enough. And then you mentioned that you
• 56:47
  hadn't done stand-up comedy yet. Is that why you haven't done
• 56:51
  that yet? Okay, but what else have you
• 56:54
  done in the sphere of Comedy so far?
• 56:58
  I've booked I. Well, I wrote a pilot my friend
• 57:02
  and I wrote a pilot and we worked on it for a year and it
• 57:06
  was really well received and we were gonna start like get, you
• 57:09
  know, taking the next steps to make it something and then covid
• 57:12
  hit. And it just didn't seem like the
• 57:15
  Holistic thing. And our third partner that we
• 57:18
  were working with you know, his heart wasn't as in it.
• 57:21
  So that kind of fell on its face.
• 57:24
  I would say I've booked one side Book Day prank show.
• 57:31
  Have you ever heard of the TV show?
• 57:32
  Punk'd. Yeah, I'd booked like a you to
• 57:36
  best prank show. That never went anywhere, but I
• 57:38
  was kind of like the Dax Shepard on that show and that was
• 57:41
  through improv. So, I think for me, I I'm going
• 57:46
  to try to use this time to work on Impressions and maybe try the
• 57:51
  right up some fried up some characters.
• 57:54
  I think that'll be what I'm going to use this time for and
• 57:57
  then we'll see what the lay of the land is because now that
• 58:01
  covid has shown us, we can audition over zoom and we can do
• 58:04
  shows over zoom and not everything needs to be done in
• 58:07
  person. I think it's a blessing and a
• 58:09
  curse. It's a blessing in the sense
• 58:11
  that You can get Talent from anywhere.
• 58:14
  You don't have to just be limited to New York or La.
• 58:16
  So it's a blessing for people across the country, but it's a
• 58:20
  curse for the people who have like, uprooted their whole lives
• 58:22
  move to a place like New York or LA and I like I'm I'm in this.
• 58:26
  I'm in the thick of this but now somebody random who's never had
• 58:30
  to like you know live a day in the life of the New York has the
• 58:34
  same opportunity for way. Less rent, how do you navigate?
• 58:38
  Like not having an audience because I mean many of Are the
• 58:42
  comedian's of spoken to of obviously highlighted how much
• 58:45
  of a big deal that is and I've got to say, it's not just
• 58:47
  comedy, you know, it's the same with professional wrestling with
• 58:50
  sports, you know, it's it's really affected everything.
• 58:53
  Like, how do you navigate that and still make an entertaining
• 58:56
  show? So for the improv shows I do, I
• 59:00
  don't even think about the audience, I'm doing those shows
• 59:04
  strictly to stay connected to the community.
• 59:07
  Do a little fun and it's never going to be the same as Live
• 59:10
  Theater improv, so I just Do it to stay connected with my
• 59:13
  friends at that theater. And so to keep showing my face
• 59:16
  and keep saying like I love improv and I'm in this with us
• 59:19
  and like I'll do this 20 minute Friday night show.
• 59:21
  If it means like we're still, you know, Steve you're seeing my
• 59:25
  face on seeing your face and to navigate not having an audience.
• 59:29
  That's why I started a podcast. I was like I need to get an
• 59:33
  audience in some way shape or form to get this off.
• 59:35
  So that's how but yeah, there's nothing like a live audience
• 59:39
  even last night. I don't know when you're going
• 59:41
  to air this episode, but last night was the inauguration
• 59:44
  concert, right? And watching these musicians,
• 59:49
  who would normally be performing for a room full of people?
• 59:51
  And having that energy, it was beautiful.
• 59:54
  They did like kind of music video esk performances but it
• 59:58
  was definitely different. So we're all kind of adjusting
• 1:00:03
  to this new post covid, during covid, pre-code, I don't know.
• 1:00:08
  We're going today, it's different with music because you
• 1:00:11
  A form to an audience of Nana's. Fine.
• 1:00:13
  With comedy people, you know, it's like the energy is what you
• 1:00:17
  feed off then, you know. Okay, this is good.
• 1:00:19
  This sucks move on works. Well, how do you navigate that
• 1:00:25
  low? Like I mean, how do you know if
• 1:00:28
  your comedies hitting home or not?
• 1:00:30
  You know what I mean? It's like, hmm, like I, for
• 1:00:32
  example, give it a Give an example, like there's this show,
• 1:00:35
  I watch in the in England called have, I got news for you, is
• 1:00:38
  like a satirical? Politics, current affairs, tool
• 1:00:42
  show. And there's a comedian on the
• 1:00:45
  show as a panelist. And then there's a guy who
• 1:00:49
  writes, like a independent newspaper publication, but
• 1:00:52
  basically, you know, it's a contest to see who can make the
• 1:00:55
  best jokes on the news and stuff, right?
• 1:00:57
  Yeah, and obviously they're not able to film it right now
• 1:01:00
  because of covid but they've done like online Zoom version
• 1:01:05
  and I appreciate their efforts I love the show but like trying
• 1:01:09
  yeah we're trying. I'd like to be fair, they can
• 1:01:12
  kind of, you know, there is there is the reaction of the
• 1:01:17
  other people in the zoom call, you know.
• 1:01:18
  So there's that, but it feels so off and I can tell that they
• 1:01:22
  feel that as well, you can feel the energy off then that like,
• 1:01:25
  this is not. Yeah.
• 1:01:27
  So like how do you navigate that?
• 1:01:29
  I know you sort of mentioned what you do.
• 1:01:32
  But if with the long form but like just standard comedy like,
• 1:01:36
  How do you know if you're going in the right direction?
• 1:01:38
  Well, I guess, I guess. I don't, you know, I cuz I don't
• 1:01:42
  improv as the only comedy that I was doing live.
• 1:01:45
  So obviously you know, we don't have that audience anymore so I
• 1:01:51
  just have to do it in hopes that one day we will.
• 1:01:54
  But there yeah, there's no comparison to to live audience.
• 1:01:57
  I think that's why there's a lot of people out there who don't
• 1:01:59
  have other fulfillments and who don't have other.
• 1:02:03
  Hobbies, at this moment, they're kind of going crazy and
• 1:02:06
  struggling. Do you have any plans in the
• 1:02:08
  future to maybe do stand-up comedy?
• 1:02:12
  My brother, he is like, really, my brother is a comedian too.
• 1:02:15
  And he's like, really, he's like really pushing for me to do
• 1:02:19
  stand-up. I think my husband tation and
• 1:02:25
  trepidation for doing stand-up. Is I worked at a stand-up comedy
• 1:02:30
  club as a cocktail waitress for my early.
• 1:02:33
  In my early 20s I have tons of friends who've done stand-up and
• 1:02:38
  I know what a grind it is it is it's a different grind.
• 1:02:42
  Improv improvs, a more structured grind, a more social
• 1:02:45
  grind, and it's a more team grind.
• 1:02:48
  But with withstand up to really be great at stand up, you have
• 1:02:54
  to hit, Open Mic after open mic after open mic.
• 1:02:57
  You're working a nine-to-five job and then you're going to
• 1:03:00
  open mics from 5:30 till 2:00 in the morning.
• 1:03:03
  Sometimes, you're not even getting up there.
• 1:03:06
  And for me, Where I'm at in life, even though I think I
• 1:03:11
  would really enjoy doing stand-up.
• 1:03:13
  I think I don't I don't know if I want to commit to that.
• 1:03:18
  I don't know if I have that grind in me but, you know,
• 1:03:22
  that's my, that's my only thing. Like, I know to really be good
• 1:03:25
  at stand-up, you've got to give it like five, six nights a week,
• 1:03:29
  six, seven hours a night. And then you have to balance
• 1:03:31
  your regular life on top of it. And I just don't know if that's
• 1:03:35
  a goal of mine right now. I know that's what it takes.
• 1:03:38
  He saw mentioned before like obviously you'd worked on on
• 1:03:43
  like show Concepts and stuff like that and that you're more
• 1:03:45
  of a comedy writer as opposed to maybe a performer.
• 1:03:49
  Do you think you're going to be more of a performer than a
• 1:03:53
  writer? I don't like, embracing the
• 1:03:56
  comedy writing that something that I've just started
• 1:03:58
  embracing, but I've definitely more was more of a performer for
• 1:04:01
  the longest time. Do you think you're going to do
• 1:04:03
  that more in future though? Like, you, maybe pitch shows to
• 1:04:06
  like, put it on Netflix HBO? Like comedy style Shams or
• 1:04:11
  something like that. I think I'm definitely going to
• 1:04:15
  embrace writing more and see where it goes.
• 1:04:18
  I think I was always judgmental. I was always scared of what
• 1:04:21
  people thought and then you just can't be scared of that because
• 1:04:25
  think about how many bad and bad doesn't mean it was bad.
• 1:04:29
  But think about how many things you've seen in your life, where
• 1:04:32
  you're just like, that wasn't funny at all, but they are in
• 1:04:35
  such a higher position because they took the risk.
• 1:04:38
  What if you actually have comedy that's good to share with the
• 1:04:40
  world. Like you have to take the risk
• 1:04:42
  Nothing. Good comes.
• 1:04:45
  If you're not taking the risk and putting yourself out there,
• 1:04:48
  somebody could hate it. Somebody could love it.
• 1:04:50
  There's so many different interpretations of.
• 1:04:51
  What is good, what? Good comedy is.
• 1:04:54
  So I think I'm just using this time to not judge myself and
• 1:04:59
  say, like you, you are good so just lean more into the writing
• 1:05:04
  aspect. So that's what I'm going to do.
• 1:05:06
  Just lean more into the writing aspect, wish you the best of
• 1:05:09
  luck with. I think you'll have a lot of
• 1:05:10
  success in that field. Yeah, what do you do for a
• 1:05:14
  living like right now? Like obviously I was going to
• 1:05:17
  ask this in general, but I think it's probably more accurate to
• 1:05:21
  kind of ask right now in that what people are dubbing The New
• 1:05:24
  Normal. Like how are you kind of making
• 1:05:27
  it day today? Well, first, I mean I have a few
• 1:05:32
  friends, you know, everybody's kind of in the same boat except
• 1:05:35
  if someone was an essential worker and so, you know, when
• 1:05:39
  this first happened, none of us were working.
• 1:05:42
  Everybody's pods were very small, the Pete, the amount of
• 1:05:46
  people that we would see and then over the summer, it's like
• 1:05:49
  you know everybody's kind of getting paid just even though
• 1:05:52
  it's not a lot of money. We were getting paid basically
• 1:05:55
  just to stay home and so I would go to the With friends and we
• 1:06:00
  would keep it like, really socially disdain toward be the
• 1:06:02
  same group of people and we would keep a really socially
• 1:06:05
  distant and be outside and kind of go on bike rides.
• 1:06:08
  Go on, walks, drink outside, you know, things like that.
• 1:06:11
  And then the winter hit and more people were starting to go back
• 1:06:14
  to work and live their lives and stuff like that.
• 1:06:19
  And nobody is like that at home as much.
• 1:06:22
  I before. The pandemic was working as a
• 1:06:24
  waitress and an actress, obviously auditioning, I had a
• 1:06:27
  ton of voice Dover auditions and things like that every day.
• 1:06:31
  And then this all just stopped. Fortunately, right now I'm in a
• 1:06:34
  position where I don't have to go back to waitressing and I'm
• 1:06:39
  trying to just ride that out as much as possible.
• 1:06:42
  So I'm just honestly, Christian spending my days working on the
• 1:06:47
  podcast and that's why I'm putting all my energy until I
• 1:06:50
  get to a place where they're like, okay, you have to go back
• 1:06:53
  to work and then hopefully, by the time I do have to go back to
• 1:06:56
  work, I'll either be making enough money on Podcast where I
• 1:06:59
  don't have to go back to you know, waiting tables in a post
• 1:07:02
  pandemic worlds or bartending in a post pandemic world, that's my
• 1:07:05
  goal. Absolutely absolutely.
• 1:07:08
  And I don't doubt that you'll be able to achieve that.
• 1:07:10
  I think it is. I mean I'm weirdly and it's in
• 1:07:13
  the same boat. I've been unemployed since
• 1:07:15
  February of last year and because I was coming back from
• 1:07:20
  another country. Came back to the UK.
• 1:07:23
  Where were you coming back from Estonia in Europe?
• 1:07:27
  It's close to To Lithuania and Russia.
• 1:07:31
  And so I came back and I figured out.
• 1:07:34
  Yeah, a couple of months, no problem.
• 1:07:36
  I'll get a job and but the weird thing is, is funny, how you get
• 1:07:40
  blessings in Disguise and so sometimes because it's given me
• 1:07:46
  what I've always wanted, which is time to do YouTube and a
• 1:07:48
  podcast as well and now that's pretty much all I do.
• 1:07:53
  And obviously, I've been like freelancing and just making ends
• 1:07:57
  meet With marketing and stuff over the course of the year.
• 1:08:02
  But yeah, pretty much I tell you that 90% of my time is doing
• 1:08:05
  this and I think, yeah, it for many of us, it's been very
• 1:08:10
  positive in that respect and that's what you always really
• 1:08:13
  need. Isn't it is, is the time to do
• 1:08:15
  this? You know, a lot of people
• 1:08:16
  complain. Like I just don't have the time
• 1:08:18
  this gets in the way that gets in the way but if you got the
• 1:08:20
  time no excuses. Absolutely.
• 1:08:23
  I 100% agree. Yeah, you mentioned it quite a
• 1:08:28
  few times that your voice actress voice actor.
• 1:08:32
  Tell us a little bit more about that like some of the projects
• 1:08:35
  you've worked on and yeah, just your career as a voice actor.
• 1:08:40
  So it happened kind of organically.
• 1:08:43
  I didn't, I always just considered myself a theater and
• 1:08:47
  a TV and film actress or that's why I was aspiring to be and in
• 1:08:52
  2016. I went on a vacation with 14
• 1:08:57
  other people, it was a core group of friends and then some
• 1:09:01
  like auxiliary pockets of friends and we all went to
• 1:09:05
  Dominican Republic. So you know I was close with
• 1:09:10
  quite a few people on the trip but some of the auxiliary like
• 1:09:12
  outer skirts. Groups of the you know you spend
• 1:09:16
  a week with them and you guys are all together, you do get
• 1:09:18
  closer and one of the people on the trip was my now voiceover
• 1:09:22
  agent. Actually, the wedding I told you
• 1:09:26
  earlier that, I went to the outdoor covid.
• 1:09:28
  Safe wedding. I went to this his wedding
• 1:09:30
  yesterday. So shout out to him.
• 1:09:33
  Shout out to Tim. So, yeah.
• 1:09:36
  So we we all go on this trip and everybody's bonding or having a
• 1:09:41
  great time, and he is a voiceover agent.
• 1:09:46
  So when we came back from the trip, you know, I had expressed
• 1:09:49
  some woes about feeling like I was extreme like feeling like I
• 1:09:54
  Talented and that I'm trying but I'm just kind of in a group of,
• 1:09:58
  you know, brunette women who are of a certain age like, you know,
• 1:10:02
  in their mid-twenties to are auditioning in New York and it's
• 1:10:05
  just not in our favor. And I felt like, you know, just
• 1:10:09
  another number and I had expressed that to him and I
• 1:10:11
  think he went over like some of my comedy stuff and then, you
• 1:10:16
  know, brought me on into his agency.
• 1:10:18
  We also went to the same College just about and we're in the same
• 1:10:23
  theater department just about. Out seventy six or seven years
• 1:10:25
  apart so we never knew each other then.
• 1:10:30
  And so yeah. So when we came back from this
• 1:10:31
  trip and after bonding on this trip and him doing like a little
• 1:10:34
  research into what I could do, I started working with his agency
• 1:10:37
  and from there, they're primarily they do commercials
• 1:10:40
  that they're primarily lean really heavy into the voice-over
• 1:10:42
  Department. So I got on that roster and from
• 1:10:48
  there, I mean, the amount of voiceovers I would do a week.
• 1:10:52
  I would be auditioning 528 voiceover recordings a week just
• 1:10:58
  auditions. And the blessing of it was, you
• 1:11:00
  could do it from the comfort of your home.
• 1:11:02
  So, that's where I got really good at editing because I had to
• 1:11:05
  edit all these voice overs on my own.
• 1:11:07
  And so, yeah, I was doing that. The biggest gig I've ever gotten
• 1:11:12
  was a CBS. CBS has a I don't know if you
• 1:11:16
  guys have it there. But CVS is a big big Pharmacy.
• 1:11:19
  It's kind of like um, Duane Reade Walgreens.
• 1:11:24
  Yeah, it's just a multi-purpose store, you know what I mean?
• 1:11:26
  So, but their CVS is huge in the states and I looked at CVS
• 1:11:30
  commercial, and the thing with voiceovers is your agent will
• 1:11:35
  email you, this is due at 10:00 a.m. the next day, but you don't
• 1:11:39
  have to send it in. I mean, if you want to
• 1:11:42
  eventually work, you have to send in your audition, but one
• 1:11:45
  day, I was coming home from work.
• 1:11:48
  I worked a lunch shift and I was going over a friends house to
• 1:11:51
  watch. The TV show.
• 1:11:52
  We did it. Every Thursday was like a group
• 1:11:54
  of us and and I didn't feel like recording the CVS audition.
• 1:11:58
  It was six different auditions. I was like, oh, I just feel like
• 1:12:01
  going to the gym and going straight to his house and
• 1:12:04
  watching the show. I don't feel like doing this
• 1:12:06
  audition, but then I remembered, like, I just spent the morning
• 1:12:10
  in the afternoon. Waitressing, I, you know, my
• 1:12:14
  living situation at the time, I was living with two random
• 1:12:18
  roommates. I was just kind of like sad and
• 1:12:21
  I was Like why would I not do these auditions?
• 1:12:25
  This is my one job is to even if I don't think the job, my one
• 1:12:28
  job is to audition. So I went home.
• 1:12:30
  I recorded the CVS auditions, I sent them in and it was like,
• 1:12:36
  Great. I booked it and then I worked
• 1:12:38
  with them multiple times because that they would, you know, call
• 1:12:41
  me in per season to do the same commercial, just to change it
• 1:12:43
  for like the spring or fall season.
• 1:12:44
  So it was a real lesson in like you have to work for what you
• 1:12:48
  want, and don't be lazy. I'd also like to add to that.
• 1:12:52
  Yeah, just go for it. Don't don't sort of undersell
• 1:12:55
  yourself, like just always go for it because you never know
• 1:12:58
  what can happen. Yeah.
• 1:13:00
  Who's gonna like you? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:13:02
  I think it. Congrats on the I'm trying to
• 1:13:04
  actually get into To voice acting myself and It's Tricky.
• 1:13:08
  I mean I haven't made too many moves.
• 1:13:09
  I've done a little bit of dialogue for a video game but
• 1:13:13
  it's like it's not paid. It's like come paid some very
• 1:13:17
  much trying to build some sort of a portfolio and and there's a
• 1:13:24
  lot of money to be made in a industry.
• 1:13:25
  I actually came across it. Yeah, from a childhood friend,
• 1:13:30
  whose father was like, basically, like massive in
• 1:13:35
  Industry and was rich because of it but you know, basically an
• 1:13:39
  unknown which I think is great. I imagine just getting be really
• 1:13:42
  successful get to do loads of cool projects and no one knows
• 1:13:45
  who you are. Fantastic.
• 1:13:47
  It's just about this. The dream.
• 1:13:49
  I would love to be on a cartoon. I would love to be a
• 1:13:52
  long-running cartoon. That would be amazing.
• 1:13:54
  Oh, hell yeah, I was watching the video of the actress who
• 1:13:57
  does Bart Simpson and like how she just has fun with that voice
• 1:14:01
  and fancy Cartwright. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:14:04
  I just don't know. Looks so fun.
• 1:14:07
  And like she's so good at it as well.
• 1:14:10
  Like you could tell. She's put so many at what
• 1:14:12
  obviously they've been doing this show for like, 30 odd
• 1:14:14
  years. But absolutely just, it's just
• 1:14:17
  how she's able to go in and out of that voice is incredible to
• 1:14:20
  me. Yeah.
• 1:14:22
  Because I normally have to warm up a little bit before I do like
• 1:14:25
  you know like an American accent or something.
• 1:14:27
  Yeah it's not easy to just jump into so I really admire that
• 1:14:31
  skill. That is a skill that jumping in
• 1:14:34
  and out I've been working on it. Impressions myself, and I'll do
• 1:14:37
  it really well for one person. Then I'll be like, oh my God.
• 1:14:39
  You have to hear this impression.
• 1:14:40
  I like, without a doubt. Crush this impression and then
• 1:14:45
  you're like, oh I can't find the voice placement.
• 1:14:47
  Oh my God. So it is a skill to kind of find
• 1:14:51
  in your mouth and your throat where the noise comes out of
• 1:14:55
  because sometimes you can do it and sometimes you can't, it's a
• 1:14:57
  real skill. I don't know if there's a word
• 1:14:59
  for this, but I think it's kind of like muscle memory like
• 1:15:03
  because there's certain voices that I do sometimes.
• 1:15:05
  Now, for finding inactive videos that I do where I am able to
• 1:15:08
  jump straight into it. Like I do this, like creepy
• 1:15:11
  Southern American dude, sometimes as a character and
• 1:15:15
  that's really easy to jump into. But then there's other ones
• 1:15:20
  where like if I try and do like a conventional American accent,
• 1:15:23
  It's Tricky. And sometimes I find myself
• 1:15:25
  maybe not quite getting it right?
• 1:15:27
  And you know so that I think it's But my point being that if
• 1:15:31
  you can remember that, and always have it in mind and know
• 1:15:34
  how to jump into it. Then that's kind of the key.
• 1:15:36
  I think maybe that contractors. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:15:43
  Her shorts practice So, you're from New York, what are the best
• 1:15:47
  and worst things about New York City?
• 1:15:51
  Well, the best thing about it pre covid I would say is there
• 1:15:57
  is always something to do. You know, the people are great
• 1:16:01
  here. There's I know that a lot of New
• 1:16:04
  Yorkers get a bad rap, but the people are really great here and
• 1:16:06
  there's always something to do. There's always a new bar to
• 1:16:09
  discover. There's always, you know, a new
• 1:16:11
  show to go see and one of the greatest things about it too, is
• 1:16:15
  it's a big city but it's also a really small City.
• 1:16:18
  So You know, if you frequent a lot of bars and stuff bartenders
• 1:16:22
  get to know you and and running into somebody becomes more
• 1:16:27
  special because you're all in this kind of bubble together.
• 1:16:30
  But I would say that for me was the best thing.
• 1:16:34
  The worst thing about it, the prices can be a little tough but
• 1:16:43
  it is. It's all relative.
• 1:16:46
  Yeah like if you happy usually most people and this is a big
• 1:16:50
  generalization but usually like most people who live here, you
• 1:16:53
  know, make a job that have a job that can sustain, whatever
• 1:16:56
  lifestyle they choose and the opportunities that are here are
• 1:17:00
  really really great. The - I would say is a price and
• 1:17:06
  unfortunately I hate even saying this unfortunately because of
• 1:17:11
  covid the energy has gotten a lot thicker.
• 1:17:15
  I've had some weird like anybody would anywhere Had some weird
• 1:17:20
  things happen you know where you're a little scared or maybe
• 1:17:22
  like someone approaches you that could be a little dangerous.
• 1:17:25
  You know people have had worse situations than me but I don't
• 1:17:31
  feel as safe as I used to is that because because obviously
• 1:17:36
  you know New York is known as the city that never sleeps and
• 1:17:39
  obviously with covid being a factor that's going to just be
• 1:17:43
  less people around in general. So is it kind of like that
• 1:17:45
  obviously being a woman alone in a major city?
• 1:17:49
  Every element. Yeah, like some obviously you've
• 1:17:51
  got to like ideally not travel at night or always be around
• 1:17:55
  friends but obviously that's difficult.
• 1:17:57
  Given the circumstances is that kind of what more what you're
• 1:18:00
  referring to. Yeah.
• 1:18:02
  Like the Subways I've had to take the subway a few times to
• 1:18:05
  go in. I live in Queens which is one of
• 1:18:08
  the five boroughs. And Manhattan is when people
• 1:18:10
  refer to the city, they're talking about Manhattan and I'm
• 1:18:13
  about maybe an 18 minute ride on the subway into Manhattan.
• 1:18:16
  The subway is right outside my house.
• 1:18:18
  But On the, I've had to take the subway a couple times into
• 1:18:23
  Manhattan and everybody's in a mask but then, you know, you see
• 1:18:27
  that one person who's not in a mask who's kind of like, very,
• 1:18:32
  you know, straggle and like looks to just give you a weird
• 1:18:36
  feeling where before covid-19 would pay attention to that.
• 1:18:40
  Now, it's kind of like uh, okay and it doesn't feel.
• 1:18:43
  And, um, yeah, the I don't know. No it's just it's definitely an
• 1:18:50
  e-reader. It's hard to explain it's just
• 1:18:52
  an eerie feeling, a lot of people have fled the city and
• 1:18:55
  have gone back to their original home.
• 1:18:57
  State might have to say my original home, state is
• 1:19:00
  Connecticut, but I've been here since I was 18, so, I am
• 1:19:03
  definitely a New Yorker in Connecticut's.
• 1:19:05
  Only an hour and a half, not even outside of the city.
• 1:19:08
  So but and, you know, I primarily live here.
• 1:19:11
  But yeah, so I feel close to my family in that way, but it's,
• 1:19:16
  it's an eerie feeling. It's a thicker energy.
• 1:19:19
  And it's sad. My neighborhood is very popular
• 1:19:23
  for like bars and like a youthful singing and restaurants
• 1:19:26
  and everything and stuff like closed down.
• 1:19:30
  And you know, you don't have the it's winter to but it.
• 1:19:33
  Yeah, it's just a thicker energy than it ever has been before.
• 1:19:36
  So I am interested to see how it's going to make a comeback,
• 1:19:41
  you know. Okay, the cat that I mean I
• 1:19:45
  think it will take some time funnily enough, we talk about
• 1:19:48
  Joe Rogan. Remember, he's just interviewed
• 1:19:51
  The Undertaker, which for me is like, oh my God, but they were
• 1:19:54
  never real briefly. And Joe Rogan says something
• 1:19:57
  about, you know, potentially it could take up to, like, five
• 1:20:00
  years for things to return to normal and they were kind of
• 1:20:04
  saying back and forth like whom who knows?
• 1:20:06
  Like maybe it will be a gradual thing.
• 1:20:08
  Maybe it'll be, everyone go crazy.
• 1:20:10
  I'm more inclined to think everyone to go crazy.
• 1:20:12
  I mean I'll be honest. Yeah, not like the biggest party
• 1:20:15
  ever. But being cooped in all the time
• 1:20:18
  like I just want to Batshit crazy.
• 1:20:21
  And yeah I think a lot of people do.
• 1:20:23
  Its people are saying it's going to be like the Roaring 20s
• 1:20:26
  because yeah. After the yeah the pandemic and
• 1:20:29
  1918 so make sense, you are saying it's going to be very
• 1:20:32
  similar to that when this is over.
• 1:20:34
  It was one thing that's really cool about that as well is that
• 1:20:38
  the 20s was a big kind of movement as far as like you know
• 1:20:43
  women's fashion and fashion in general Society like for
• 1:20:47
  example, like it was I can only think I like women as being the
• 1:20:51
  main example here. But like classically.
• 1:20:54
  You never see a woman with a skirt any longer than you know.
• 1:20:59
  You would like you won't even see your ankles kind of thing,
• 1:21:01
  but that's a nice tight, seal women in like in short skirts
• 1:21:05
  and stuff, which would have the time been, like mind-blowing.
• 1:21:09
  Like, you can't do that, like, you know, and and I find that
• 1:21:13
  element really cool. I think we might see some real
• 1:21:16
  cultural shifts potentially as far as like, I think so too.
• 1:21:20
  Yeah, and that's exciting to think about, actually, that's
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  something to look forward to us. But yeah.
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  Um, since we're still on the topic of covid, how has New
• 1:21:32
  York, sort of reacted to the pandemic in general, before we
• 1:21:37
  get to that question, I just want to add as well.
• 1:21:38
  What you were saying with regards to not feeling
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  comfortable around certain people.
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  There's a lot of people that have said that, like, Whether or
• 1:21:46
  not you wear a mask particular in the state's kind of gives
• 1:21:49
  away your political leanings and it sort of seems like, yeah.
• 1:21:52
  If you're a republican, you tend not to wear a mask in if you're
• 1:21:58
  all right. Yeah.
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  And if you're a Democrat, you will wear a mask.
• 1:22:01
  So basically if you're on the right, probably not going to
• 1:22:03
  wear a mask if you're on the left probably will and yeah it
• 1:22:07
  doesn't happen even necessarily politics.
• 1:22:09
  I think a lot of the time it's just if you're a sensible you're
• 1:22:11
  going to wear a mask if you're not.
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  Yeah. But like, I guess we'll really
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  what my point is is like, do have you noticed any sort of
• 1:22:21
  like, massive changes in Behavior other than the ones you
• 1:22:24
  sort of laid out earlier, anything particularly crazy or
• 1:22:28
  is New York overall reacting? Well or negatively like how is
• 1:22:35
  New York I think in general New York, is, is behaving well for
• 1:22:41
  the most part, I can only really speak to the city aspect of it,
• 1:22:45
  you know, we To do a thing. I know, I don't know if this was
• 1:22:47
  country or national. I think this was just in the
• 1:22:51
  States, but we used to do a thing at 7 p.m. where everybody
• 1:22:54
  would come to their window and bang pots and pans or scream and
• 1:22:58
  yell. And we would do that for to like
• 1:22:59
  cheer on the essential workers. That is something that you guys
• 1:23:03
  did that, too. It felt really good to do that.
• 1:23:06
  It felt like oh my God, everybody just see and really I
• 1:23:10
  heard Sarah Silverman say this. I was watching an episode of
• 1:23:12
  Howard Stern that she was on and she was saying how you know it's
• 1:23:15
  real We all of us just like animalistic Lee screaming like
• 1:23:19
  get me out of this cage but we are doing it in a in a way
• 1:23:23
  that's, you know, we're just releasing and there was one
• 1:23:27
  night, my brother and I were going for a walk over the summer
• 1:23:29
  at about 7:00 and we walked past Mount Sinai Hospital, which had
• 1:23:35
  a literal truck full of dead bodies behind it with with an
• 1:23:41
  air kiss yet. Air conditioner behind it.
• 1:23:44
  Keeping them cool. And it was just Massive, massive
• 1:23:47
  truck. Just they were just putting
• 1:23:48
  bodies in and we happen to be walking past the hospital at 7
• 1:23:52
  p.m. And there were some of the
• 1:23:56
  Frontline medical workers had stepped outside and the whole
• 1:23:59
  street. The cars the pedestrians, we all
• 1:24:02
  just stood and clapped for them, that that was a really memorable
• 1:24:05
  moment, but it was it was pretty horrible from from March till
• 1:24:11
  about mid-may. My street is already extremely
• 1:24:14
  noisy, I live. Near to Highway entrances.
• 1:24:17
  I live near the subway and I live on a one-way, so, by right
• 1:24:21
  by the red light. So it's a huge intersection.
• 1:24:23
  So it's, I'm constantly hearing horns.
• 1:24:26
  Honking beeping. Just loud.
• 1:24:28
  Noise is trucks. Everything police.
• 1:24:31
  I live around the corner from a police station, a fire station.
• 1:24:34
  So so it's good and bad, you know?
• 1:24:38
  I think if I was living in New York, I live near a police
• 1:24:41
  station that that would be a benefit to be a positive.
• 1:24:46
  I mean, yeah. It's all right.
• 1:24:49
  I mean, you know, obviously you probably have heard some of the,
• 1:24:51
  you know, the United States police force is not, I mean,
• 1:24:57
  they sit here and they guard a Christopher, Columbus statue 24
• 1:25:00
  hours a day. It's like, so that people don't
• 1:25:03
  knock it down. It's like, why don't you guard?
• 1:25:05
  People and stop worrying about the Christopher, Columbus
• 1:25:07
  statue. But anyways, it's very loud here
• 1:25:10
  and when covid-19 its peak here, it was sirens every Five
• 1:25:15
  minutes. It was just nauseating.
• 1:25:18
  You're just emergency after emergency for two months
• 1:25:21
  straight, so you can't become numb to it.
• 1:25:24
  Kind of, how do you do you put up with that?
• 1:25:28
  I how do you sleep when there's this constant noise all the time
• 1:25:33
  over the summer, over the summer, I would have my air, my
• 1:25:37
  air conditioners in and so you can't really hear it with the
• 1:25:39
  air conditioner. And then before before that and
• 1:25:43
  now I'm truly Like you get used to it, you do get you.
• 1:25:48
  I mean occasionally there is like the horn because I'm facing
• 1:25:51
  the street occasionally, there's a horn that will jolt you and
• 1:25:54
  wake you up, but I, it is something that you have to get
• 1:25:58
  used to. And then once you're used to it,
• 1:25:59
  it's just background noise. It's you don't notice it.
• 1:26:03
  You don't get that. I get that.
• 1:26:04
  Yeah. That's a true thing.
• 1:26:06
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:26:07
  If you have a continuous noise that you can kind of like, you
• 1:26:09
  know, it's not something we can do that on purpose.
• 1:26:11
  They put on like a tumble dryer or like a washing machines.
• 1:26:15
  sleep and more notice it and obviously I don't have any house
• 1:26:20
  guest now because of covid weary we have one friend who lives
• 1:26:24
  alone who's been a part of our pod since since May the end of
• 1:26:30
  May he's the only person we let upstairs but other than that in
• 1:26:34
  the random moments where I have had people over and they'll say
• 1:26:38
  something they'll be like, wow it's so loud here and you're
• 1:26:41
  like yeah I get used to it, I suppose you have to really done
• 1:26:45
  you What makes the perfect night out?
• 1:26:53
  I would say the perfect night out is everybody in the group,
• 1:27:00
  may be hanging beforehand, maybe you do a dinner beforehand, or
• 1:27:04
  you, you know, pregame at someone's apartment, listening
• 1:27:06
  to some music and everybody's attitude to be willing to go out
• 1:27:14
  and willing to have a good time, makes a huge difference.
• 1:27:16
  And I usually associate with myself, with my close friends,
• 1:27:20
  usually are the group that's down to do things. so I would
• 1:27:25
  say perfect night out is a little bit of like, pre-gaming
• 1:27:29
  listening to music catching up everybody catching up on the
• 1:27:31
  week and then going out and just whether it be dancing all night
• 1:27:35
  or, you know, going to a bar and bar hopping, just good company,
• 1:27:41
  positive attitudes and willing to say yes to whatever the night
• 1:27:45
  brings that always Is a good recipe for a great night out, is
• 1:27:50
  that sauce because like you know, you when I saw this
• 1:27:55
  podcast for the first time I figure it, because I didn't know
• 1:27:59
  that, you know, you're a comedian or this other stuff.
• 1:28:01
  And I just figured you were a person that likes to Pi, which
• 1:28:04
  is for a fine, you know, and I liked it.
• 1:28:06
  Like I said, I like the concept and stuff and I, you know, I
• 1:28:11
  think I've learned for the course of looking at the podcast
• 1:28:14
  and learning about you that it's much more than that. yeah,
• 1:28:18
  everyone has a different idea of what makes a good night out and
• 1:28:21
  I think you you hit on some really good points there like
• 1:28:25
  You know if someone's not willing like, oh my God, does
• 1:28:29
  that become a drag? You know?
• 1:28:30
  And it does depend everyone has like a bad day but like there
• 1:28:33
  are some people who just complain.
• 1:28:35
  Like I think there's a work. Like malcontents.
• 1:28:38
  I can't stand those people because their energy is they
• 1:28:41
  just stay off and it just ruins the night, you know.
• 1:28:44
  Let me just have to find. Yeah, yeah, yeah I don't usually
• 1:28:48
  hang out with people who are no fun.
• 1:28:55
  If someone who is maybe a little lower energy, me, and the people
• 1:28:59
  I associate myself with, we're usually able to drag the fun out
• 1:29:02
  of most people. And if, if, if I'm hanging out
• 1:29:05
  with someone who's content, I'm not having a good time, then
• 1:29:09
  that's very rare. I like this question.
• 1:29:14
  I've started asking my guests. This recently.
• 1:29:16
  Yeah. And it always gets a different
• 1:29:18
  response. What's the biggest life lesson?
• 1:29:21
  You've learned so far? Cool.
• 1:29:27
  I mean, I think I have an amalgamation of things, but one
• 1:29:33
  thing is think, before you speak, you can't take words
• 1:29:38
  back. Ya know and they words words
• 1:29:43
  have a huge impact. So you think before you speak
• 1:29:49
  because you could really hurt someone.
• 1:29:52
  I would also say nobody's going to do anything for you, even if
• 1:29:56
  you have the most supportive family, even if you have the
• 1:30:00
  biggest which I do, I'm an incredibly supportive family.
• 1:30:03
  I have an incredibly supportive friend group.
• 1:30:05
  I'm very, very lucky for that. None of those people are going
• 1:30:10
  to make anything happen for me, unless I make something happen
• 1:30:13
  for myself, so that and I think that goes with anyone.
• 1:30:15
  Even if you have the most supportive team in the world,
• 1:30:17
  you have to wake up every day and say what am I investing in?
• 1:30:21
  My life. And how am I making my life move
• 1:30:24
  forward with my goals and my aspirations?
• 1:30:27
  Because nobody else is waking, unless they're on your staff and
• 1:30:30
  you're paying them. Nobody else is going to make
• 1:30:33
  your dreams come true. So you have to really put one
• 1:30:35
  foot in so that's something I learned and also not to say you
• 1:30:41
  can't trust people, but be careful with what information
• 1:30:46
  you share with who. Yeah, you know, not, everyone
• 1:30:48
  needs to know. I used to be a big overshare.
• 1:30:51
  Sure, I used to, you know, meet somebody and then tell them my
• 1:30:53
  life story in one second. And that the thing that's, you
• 1:30:59
  know, it's more special. If you get to know someone
• 1:31:01
  friend, whoever it's a lot more special.
• 1:31:04
  If you get to know someone and gradually, let them in rather
• 1:31:08
  than expecting to, you know, them to just take care of you if
• 1:31:13
  you tell them your whole life story.
• 1:31:16
  Yeah, I couldn't agree more. I've learned yeah a lot more
• 1:31:19
  reserved over the years. With regards to that because it
• 1:31:22
  is nothing wrong with being open and and sharing on to yourself.
• 1:31:26
  But at the same time, yeah, people will manipulate you and
• 1:31:29
  try and use and screw you over and and that's the problem.
• 1:31:32
  Like you got, you got to be aware of that.
• 1:31:35
  And remember the know everyone is your friend solutely and
• 1:31:40
  because of the information you might share with someone.
• 1:31:42
  I remember going through a breakup.
• 1:31:44
  I would tend to latch on to other women who were going
• 1:31:48
  through breakups and we would be like You know, I would be
• 1:31:52
  spilling everything because I've exhausted all my other resources
• 1:31:55
  of being want to listen to me, going through this breakup, this
• 1:31:58
  is years ago. But I then I would cling onto
• 1:32:00
  women who were who are also going through a breakup and then
• 1:32:03
  I'd be spending my time with them and I'd be, you know, you
• 1:32:07
  know we'd be talking all we would do is talk about the
• 1:32:09
  breakup and that is. So it feels good at first
• 1:32:12
  because you're like, this person gets me this person relates to
• 1:32:15
  me, but then it's a toxic thing because you realize the only
• 1:32:19
  reason and the only thing that at the Don't you guys have in
• 1:32:22
  common is your trauma. Yeah.
• 1:32:25
  And people have so much more to them so many more layers to them
• 1:32:31
  than their trauma. So, you know, if I in the
• 1:32:33
  future, if I'm going through a breakup, or if I'm going through
• 1:32:35
  a hard time, I think I would learn to, you know, not just try
• 1:32:38
  to connect with somebody because they've also tried to go through
• 1:32:41
  that hard time. Try to connect with them on a
• 1:32:43
  different level because I don't think that's a good ground for a
• 1:32:46
  friendship. Couldn't agree more.
• 1:32:49
  Yeah, as we draw things to a close for today, you have any
• 1:32:53
  upcoming projects or maybe some final thoughts that you'd like
• 1:32:56
  to share with us. My upcoming projects are to grow
• 1:33:02
  the podcast to continue to be consistent.
• 1:33:04
  My episodes come out every Monday at noon, Eastern Standard
• 1:33:08
  Time and the states. So I'm going to do my best and
• 1:33:14
  put 100% into that to keep those consistent and just lay low and
• 1:33:19
  be patient with the healing post.
• 1:33:22
  Pandemic. You know everybody everybody's
• 1:33:25
  yeah I said to a friend the other day This chapter of the
• 1:33:30
  pandemic feels different It Feels Like Mike.
• 1:33:33
  We are all this adapting to it a little bit more and that's kind
• 1:33:37
  of eerie and icky but to just roll with the punches and you
• 1:33:42
  know, keep trying to stay positive.
• 1:33:45
  Yeah, absolutely. Yeah I just want to say thank
• 1:33:48
  you very much for doing this. It's been an absolute pleasure.
• 1:33:52
  I love to speaking with you Christian.
• 1:33:54
  Thank you so much for having me. This was great.
• 1:33:56
  This is a great way to start the day.
• 1:33:58
  I know it's a little later there but for me this was an amazing
• 1:34:01
  way to start the day. Awesome.
• 1:34:02
  Awesome. Yeah.
• 1:34:04
  To my audience make sure you go and follow Rocky Powell.
• 1:34:07
  Once again, that's the Wild Nights with Rocky Powell podcast
• 1:34:11
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• 1:34:17
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• 1:34:46
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• 1:34:48
  listening and until next time. Peace out.
• 1:34:51
  One love, I shall see you in the next.