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Giants vs Patriots NFL DFS Showdown | Week 13 MNF | Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems going clear.
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  Speaker 2: We lift up.
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  Speaker 1: What's up everyone? Tyler Tamberline here aka TOTEG and Tambo
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  Speaker 1: back for another edition of the Monday night Football Showdown
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  Speaker 1: show wrapping up Week thirteen here on the Ship at
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  Speaker 1: Nation YouTube station. Got titled got hoop with Me as
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  Speaker 1: always and we're gonna break down all things from the
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  Speaker 1: Giants at the Patriots game. Interesting little tidbit, we just
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  Speaker 1: looked it up before the show. Both these teams have
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  Speaker 1: a buye next week. There is still buyes next week
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  Speaker 1: for fourteens. So Carolina Sanfran, the Giants and the Patriots Hoopster.
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  Speaker 1: Another big week thirteen for the community.
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  Speaker 3: I know that much.
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  Speaker 1: And shout out to our friend last night. She took
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  Speaker 1: down forty four thousand dollars in the showdown, so I
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  Speaker 1: love to see that. The logos have been up top
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  Speaker 1: all season, but the Showdown particularly has been nice. It's
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  Speaker 1: going on, man.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, congratulations big Ford. It was a forty four thousand, right,
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  Speaker 4: forty four forty four thousand, so that's a big wing congratulations.
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  Speaker 4: And yeah, I mean the members the community continue to
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  Speaker 4: turn out these big, these big wins, and you absolutely
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  Speaker 4: love to see it. And got one more game this week,
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  Speaker 4: so hopefully we can continue on that path and get
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  Speaker 4: some more of those Shipping Nation logos at the top
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  Speaker 4: of the leaderboard tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, title another good one tonight man. Twenty dollars, three
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  Speaker 1: hundred cap top on DraftKings, fandulas, the normal hunder k
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  Speaker 1: up top over there, so it should be a pretty
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  Speaker 1: good slate. I'm interested to see when we get to
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  Speaker 1: your grand scheme in a minute, we'll go through it.
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  Speaker 1: But how you doing, my friend, and how is your
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  Speaker 1: your free money Sunday? What's going on doing well? Not
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  Speaker 1: free money? Times have change, man.
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  Speaker 3: I came out up with that whatever mantra's status whatever
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  Speaker 3: six seven years ago, went back when it was set
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  Speaker 3: six seven six seven. Yeah, oh gosh, now I was
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  Speaker 3: back in college. I mean it was free. You can hoop,
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  Speaker 3: I mean you could. You could get in the head
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  Speaker 3: to head lobbies and dudes are playing guys that are
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  Speaker 3: out at the end of the day, especially in MBA,
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, nowadays it's a little tougher, but hey, it
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  Speaker 3: was free for a lot of members, like you mentioned,
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  Speaker 3: really good in the community. I see n Aids in here,
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  Speaker 3: I see Philly, A lot of people that grind really hard.
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  Speaker 3: Not the forty four thousand. I mean, what a score
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  Speaker 3: that is. Congrats, but yeah, a lot of three thirty threes,
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  Speaker 3: thousand bucks, four hundred, all that adds up. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: stick with it and good week for many.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was awesome to see, you know, any anything
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  Speaker 1: like that. I love to see the you know, forty
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  Speaker 1: four k is a big score. Like that's a pretty
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  Speaker 1: unique lineup in that one, So I like to see
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  Speaker 1: that a lot more than like six k chopping fan Doo,
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  Speaker 1: I think was going to be a big chop and
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  Speaker 1: then turned out not to be. So I like that
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  Speaker 1: type of stuff. That's what's fun about the showdown slates.
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  Speaker 1: And I'll stay with you for a sec title because
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  Speaker 1: go to the Grand Scheme overview. Last night, the five
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  Speaker 1: ones did not work out. People saw it again and
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  Speaker 1: all week. By the way, where these teams just you know,
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  Speaker 1: we were just talking pre show and Survivor streets, but
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  Speaker 1: just NFL in general, where teams get knocked off by
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  Speaker 1: these these you know, big boy teams getting crushed by
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  Speaker 1: what they're calling massive upsets. But it's the NFL. Anybody
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  Speaker 1: can win on any given week. But I know a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people like the five ones last night, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't think Washington would be able to show up. Washington
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  Speaker 1: most certainly did show up. They didn't win in the end,
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  Speaker 1: but it was pushed all the way to overtime. Do
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  Speaker 1: you think that affects how people see tonight where it's
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  Speaker 1: like it would have been the Patriots smash, but now
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  Speaker 1: it's like, I don't know, these other teams can show up.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think and how that stuff affects these slates?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really know. I mean, I definitely believe
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  Speaker 3: the defenses, Like when defenses crush and there's pretty big
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  Speaker 3: favorites are against a team people don't deem to be good,
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  Speaker 3: they get steamed. We see what the Broncos forty one
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  Speaker 3: percent hoop was ahead of the curve. I'm not really
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  Speaker 3: sure how much that really plays into just like the
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  Speaker 3: last night's game, going to this game, blow it or not.
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  Speaker 3: I will say I think the Giants they've been a
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  Speaker 3: solid football team with Dark behind center, like he's he's
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  Speaker 3: a good quarterback. They can move the football. It seems
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  Speaker 3: like they compete. They've had upset wins and it was
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  Speaker 3: like minus four to ten two days ago, it's minus
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  Speaker 3: three sixty now. Some buyback on the Giants. I think
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  Speaker 3: they compete. I mean people will talk about the injuries
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  Speaker 3: to the left side of the line for the Patriots too.
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  Speaker 3: I think it could be competitive, and I think kind
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  Speaker 3: of people see it the same like five ones I
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  Speaker 3: don't think are really going to be two two popular.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's four twos and three threes. Again, a
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  Speaker 3: lot of that has to do with just pricing and
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  Speaker 3: like where what teams go to for value. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's kind of my grand scheme. I think it's a
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  Speaker 3: good game.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's going to be part of it.
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  Speaker 1: We've definitely seen like when the double ds get rolling
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  Speaker 1: and then people say, all start to plug those in,
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  Speaker 1: or like if kickers work, then the next thing. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of people are on the kickers. But who, I'll
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  Speaker 1: kick it to you, how do you think this game
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  Speaker 1: plays out? And then how do you think that effects
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  Speaker 1: or what's your thoughts as it applies to DFS.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think, like the Jackson Dart thing, like the
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  Speaker 4: Giants have what's the best way to put this, their
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  Speaker 4: results haven't really matched up with the way they've performed
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  Speaker 4: on the field. I think they could have more wins.
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  Speaker 4: I mean they're like just terrible in the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 4: gave away that Denver game, gave away the game against
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  Speaker 4: the Lions. They should have beat the Lions. So they're
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  Speaker 4: definitely better than their record indicates. And I'm kind of
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  Speaker 4: leaning in the direction that this is a competitive game.
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  Speaker 4: I think the Pats, I think the Giants have a
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  Speaker 4: chance to, you know, potentially win this game. I think
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  Speaker 4: it's at the bare minimum, I think it's competitive. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think it's like a blowout sort of situation. So
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  Speaker 4: for me personally, I'm going to be looking more at
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  Speaker 4: the four twos and three threes and not necessarily the
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  Speaker 4: five ones. You know, Jackson Dark can do some things
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  Speaker 4: out there for sure and get his guys the ball,
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  Speaker 4: So I'm more in on the Giant stuff I think
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  Speaker 4: than the field will be.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what we like to see. So we'll break
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  Speaker 1: it all down. We go to our captains here in
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  Speaker 1: a minute. You know, a couple of things, like Scooter
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  Speaker 1: had said here was you know, the good thing about
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  Speaker 1: the win loss outcome has zero impact on DFS. That's
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  Speaker 1: because Ross said this. I thought this is a good one.
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  Speaker 1: Giants can compete, but they've mastered the art of losing.
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  Speaker 1: That's what it felt like with Washington last night. It
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  Speaker 1: was a great game, put up a wonderful fight. You're
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  Speaker 1: just waiting to see how Mariota was gonna mess it
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  Speaker 1: up at the end. And I know, watching the high
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  Speaker 1: I fell asleep for the ot but watching the highlights
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  Speaker 1: I saw a little bit of the breakdown of it. It
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  Speaker 1: looked like they they marched their way up the field
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  Speaker 1: and then you know from there it died out. But
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  Speaker 1: either way, just noting it. It's it's these types of
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  Speaker 1: games where you can get get a lot from a
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  Speaker 1: DFS perspective out of it. And Title you you know
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  Speaker 1: better than anyone else, well, use it all the time.
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  Speaker 1: But your ex worthy you know winning the Super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: one hundred and thirteen k shipper, you know that was
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  Speaker 1: pretty solid in a two four build where you know,
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  Speaker 1: the Chiefs just got crushed by the Eagles. So even
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  Speaker 1: those types of slates, you can see it work in
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  Speaker 1: your favor, and I think that's interesting for tonight, So
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  Speaker 1: I'll kick it to you first. Title, give us your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts at the captain position on DraftKings here with Giants
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  Speaker 1: at the Patriots.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, little thing is also like the Worthy Bill to
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  Speaker 3: bring it up like the Eagles defense in it a
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  Speaker 3: defense against your captain skill position, a little thing in Showdown,
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  Speaker 3: leaving money on the tape. We like, you can play
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  Speaker 3: good players and still have pretty like last night, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Trailon Burke's kind of like the Chalky value play, Oh Troutman.
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  Speaker 3: She played Troutman over that was sharp, but regardless, Birds
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  Speaker 3: is up there for a while. It was a well
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  Speaker 3: built lineup, but little negative ev correlation things. That's actually
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  Speaker 3: gonna be good in Showdown because yeah, it's a random
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  Speaker 3: game we play. So in terms of captain, the first
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  Speaker 3: thing that sends out always look at captain ownership. Drake
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  Speaker 3: May twenty three percent, Tradevan Henderson twenty percent, About forty
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  Speaker 3: five percent right there, just with two guys, and honestly,
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised. Lately it seems like the Chalk
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  Speaker 3: Deier captains have gotten even more steam, So that could
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  Speaker 3: be fifty percent between two people if that's the case. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I mean I think they're solid plays. I do prefer
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  Speaker 3: Trebon to May just because you get a thirty eight
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  Speaker 3: hundred dollars savings. That's a big price difference. Henderson looks
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  Speaker 3: definitely too cheap on the slate. Even with Remandre back
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  Speaker 3: Drake May, he can still be the highest score on
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  Speaker 3: the slate and not be the captain just because of
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  Speaker 3: how the pricing were so probably gonna be underweight May
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  Speaker 3: And I'm in agreement with Hoop. I think the Giants
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  Speaker 3: can compete. It's like Wandale Robinson at six percent seven percent.
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  Speaker 3: I definitely want to exposure there, Tyrone Tracy five percent,
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  Speaker 3: Captain thirty percent in the flex him and Singletary, Like
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  Speaker 3: Tracy definitely had a lot more work than Singletary last week,
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  Speaker 3: where before it was a little more rocky. It was
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  Speaker 3: like almost seventy five percent of snaps Tracy played. If
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  Speaker 3: that's the case the other side, if they compete the
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  Speaker 3: other side of like the road dog at the end
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  Speaker 3: of the day, I mean, he's going to be super
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  Speaker 3: low on people don't like playing running backs in that spot.
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  Speaker 3: It gets you on a whole different game environment. I
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  Speaker 3: think that's pretty interesting. Theo Johnson fifty eight hundred. I
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  Speaker 3: do have a little interest in those mid tier, maybe
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  Speaker 3: mainly him, but like the middling Bill, they can avoid
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  Speaker 3: the Daniel bellingers of these really cheap guys. Feels a
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  Speaker 3: number two target at the end of the day for
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  Speaker 3: Jackson Darts. So yeah, I like the Giants captains more
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  Speaker 3: than I think the field does. And I'm a little
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  Speaker 3: worried May Henderson being fifty percent. I like the Henderson one,
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  Speaker 3: but May at that price, I think I'll be underweight.
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  Speaker 1: And Neate's brought up a good point too in the chat.
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  Speaker 1: We talk about this all the time, but with the
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  Speaker 1: specifically on showdown the roster construction, like we've mentioned a
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  Speaker 1: little bit previously, and you know, talking about how to
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  Speaker 1: play the game, is that you know, all that trickles
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  Speaker 1: over even further hoop to where now you get the
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  Speaker 1: most common builds that also have them. So like, yes,
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  Speaker 1: it all makes sense from a math perspective, but some
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  Speaker 1: of us don't think of that as much. Where it's
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  Speaker 1: like if you're already on a four to two New England,
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  Speaker 1: which is a very popular build, well seventy five percent
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  Speaker 1: of those builds might have the fifty percent of the
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  Speaker 1: total captain. So it's like anything like that can be
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  Speaker 1: a differently, you could still have a four to two
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  Speaker 1: that's different with Stefan Dix or mac Hollins or something,
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  Speaker 1: and then you can be on the more popular build style,
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  Speaker 1: but in a different style of build. So give us
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  Speaker 1: your thoughts of the captain just anything else you want
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  Speaker 1: to add from that standpoint.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, to me, this isn't a slate where
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  Speaker 4: two guys should be getting like close to fifty percent.
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  Speaker 4: And you know that's kind of over showing here with
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  Speaker 4: May and Henderson up to That's not saying I don't
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  Speaker 4: like those guys up top. I definitely do, but I
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  Speaker 4: just don't think it should be that extreme where they're
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  Speaker 4: getting that much owner ownership close to half the field.
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  Speaker 4: I'm definitely gonna play them. I don't think I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: get to that number. Like, I'm fine with a lot
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  Speaker 4: more guys. I will be spreading it out a little
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  Speaker 4: bit more. Yes, May and Henderson will be a part
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  Speaker 4: of it. But dark digs, Wandel Robinson for sure. I
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  Speaker 4: like the Tyrone Tracy call Hunter Henry. I like Hunter
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  Speaker 4: Henry a lot up top. He's had He's like the
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  Speaker 4: perfect captain guy. He's had these just monster Newt games
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  Speaker 4: and then he's had these pretty quiet games along the way,
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  Speaker 4: so he's perfect for a captain. You know, talk about
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  Speaker 4: THEO Johnson should be pretty low owned like I want
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  Speaker 4: to spread it out a little bit more than what
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  Speaker 4: the ownership's showing, And like title said, I think this
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  Speaker 4: could get even more extreme. We're seeing it where these
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  Speaker 4: popular captains are getting even more popular as we get
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  Speaker 4: closer to Locke. So for me, yes, I like May,
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  Speaker 4: I like Hunderson, but you know, I like those five
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  Speaker 4: or six or six or seven other guys that I
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  Speaker 4: kind of mentioned there just as much. So I'm going
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  Speaker 4: to be spreading it out more. Up top of post
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  Speaker 4: are just hammering down on those two, which looks like
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  Speaker 4: the field is trying to do here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're definitely going to be a huge part of
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  Speaker 1: what people are doing out there when you look at
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  Speaker 1: like their optimal rates, when you see what the contest
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  Speaker 1: sims are pushing all that stuff, it's just pushing more
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  Speaker 1: and more of those guys in like Tyland you have said,
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  Speaker 1: where it could be even more popular than we see now.
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  Speaker 1: And just a quick note, I said in the discord,
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  Speaker 1: this is my Mona Lisa who the quick marketing as
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  Speaker 1: we extended in through Monday, but you get in ship
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  Speaker 1: at games for the rest of the season. We've talked
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  Speaker 1: about that a ton right eighty five thousand dollars in
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  Speaker 1: cash and prizes up for grabs. But I kept at
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  Speaker 1: old school. Do you want sixty nine for the monthly
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  Speaker 1: with sabersim or do you want six seven and with
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  Speaker 1: the one sixty seven for the entire rest of seasons?
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  Speaker 1: So you know, we're always sticking with the trends here
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  Speaker 1: at ship at Nation. It is funny though, how much
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  Speaker 1: the programming of that works. Like title said, it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: thinking to say it. You added it, and I know
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  Speaker 1: you added it, and that was fun. But for the
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  Speaker 1: most part, you'd be surprised how often you'll hear it now, right,
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  Speaker 1: And I think you told me this before, Hoop, Like
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  Speaker 1: when you're buying a new vehicle, you're like, yeah, I'm
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: thinking about this new truck, and then you're again, I
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: started seeing the truck everywhere before, right, and now you
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: end up buying the truck, and it's like, oh, that's
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: all part of it. So everyone starts saying six' seven
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  Speaker 1: now without even knowing, it AND i hear it on
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  Speaker 1: the commentary and everything all that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Too, YEAH i scene all.
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  Speaker 1: RIGHT i think the one thing that's most interesting is
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  Speaker 1: just the savings up, top because both these guys spread
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  Speaker 1: it around from a quarterback, Position so that makes sense For,
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  Speaker 1: may makes sense For, dart, who by the, Way dart
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  Speaker 1: looks like he's the third most popular, captain and probably
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  Speaker 1: for good. Reason but even On dart, alone the STUFF
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  Speaker 1: i make fun, about Like Drake May, holmes, well that's
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  Speaker 1: perfect in showdown because you want if a quarterback spreads
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  Speaker 1: it out like that and has legs that he runs,
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  Speaker 1: with it's a great. Opportunity that's why you're Seeing may pop.
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  Speaker 1: Up but then it also leads and bleeds so much
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  Speaker 1: into the the winning team, side and nothing is. Safe
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  Speaker 1: we talked about this Pre. Shaw i'll hit it again.
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  Speaker 1: Here if The rams can lose, yesterday The patriots can lose.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight will they probably? Not but that's just the note
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  Speaker 1: of when you're seeing that, stuff it sort of leaks into.
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  Speaker 1: That And dart is twenty seven hundred dollars cheaper at the.
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  Speaker 1: Captain he spreads it out just as. Much There's, Robinson,
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  Speaker 1: slayton Now hodgens is in the, mix Theo, johnson Bell
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  Speaker 1: ander will catch them, grabs you, know things like. This
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  Speaker 1: So i'm just as fine with. That and that's where like,
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  Speaker 1: who like you, said if you go underweight even and
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  Speaker 1: you're not not playing those. GUYS i think that's what
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  Speaker 1: people always struggle. With it is like it has to
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  Speaker 1: be locker. Fade it's overweight or. Fade it's, like if
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  Speaker 1: you can go, overweight you can go, underweight so you
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  Speaker 1: can play less Of henderson And. May you're still gonna
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  Speaker 1: have them building in the way you want or accordingly
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  Speaker 1: LIKE i, said LIKE i would, say but then you
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  Speaker 1: Get dart and you can get overweight on. Him you
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  Speaker 1: can get overweight On, robinson get overweight ON, Theo, johnson
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  Speaker 1: you can get overweight On, slayton, whatever those guys that you.
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  Speaker 1: LIKE i think it makes a ton of. Sense but
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  Speaker 1: With Henry Digs wandale and Then, SLAYTON theo and to
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  Speaker 1: actually to titles point two With, tracy all those guys
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  Speaker 1: are much lower price point at captain or Than. May,
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  Speaker 1: sorry or they're very similar To henderson Because henderson was
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  Speaker 1: kind of priced. Bad i'm not sure if you guys saw.
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  Speaker 1: This we usually get to it, later But henderson EIGHT
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  Speaker 1: k in The flex TWELVE k up, top and then
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  Speaker 1: if you go to Like Fan duel eleven eight in
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  Speaker 1: The flex seventeen to SEVEN mvp so just quite the
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  Speaker 1: discrepancy there On, henderson but now all those other guys
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  Speaker 1: sort of are in his realm digs is an overpay
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  Speaker 1: To henderson's. Title SO i don't know if you want
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  Speaker 1: to add to any of that, stuff BUT i just
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  Speaker 1: think that some of the thoughts around that are you
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: can still get some pretty good balanced lineups that way.
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: Too, YEAH i Think henderson probably the most mispriced player
• 14:46
  Speaker 3: on the, Slate and While may And henderson are gonna
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: make up fifty, PERCENT i Prefer henderson just Because i'm
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: getting thirty eight hundred dollars in, savings Whereas may could
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: be the highest score and still not be the captain
• 14:58
  Speaker 3: optimal an interesting point so in this game on both,
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: sides if you do want to Play may like a
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: case to be made for him and Then, dart WHO
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: i like as well as the third highest own is
• 15:08
  Speaker 3: they both Have they're really good on the, ground they
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: can use their, legs they can both score on the
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: ground plus two seventy For may plus two ninety For.
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: Dart like you can play some really interesting. Builds and
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: again that's the counterpoint, too if you do want a
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: Jam henderson And, may and you just Think henderson's the
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: most mispriced and may when you do. It there's so
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: many different ways you. Can you can build unique teams
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: probably that leave like one hundred or two hundred bucks with,
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: them because it could be zero receivers to three pass,
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: catchers and that's pretty cool when you're playing chalk quarterback
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: that you.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: Like that's WHAT i. Like i'm glad you emphasize, that
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: because that's certainly something that you. Know, like this question
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: comes up all the, time And jason will answer it for, you,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: right like how much salary can you leave this showdown
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: and feel? COMFORTABLE i like to use the sort Of
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: i'll use like a wide receiver test or however you
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: want to look at. It but like if you were,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: like all, right if it's Not robinson and it could
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Be hodgens instead Of robinson and you don't need, both,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: yes you could bump up somewhere. Else but you could
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: also just say that's how the lineup shakes. Out so
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: in that, case it's nine thousand less the thirty six.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Hundred there's your, math and you you could just SAY
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: i could leave that. Much but to title's, point and
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: that's WHAT i wanted to double down on that when
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: he emphasized it is that's the Mac hollands EXAMPLE i gave,
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: earlier like he's not going to be a popular, captain
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: but a four to two roster construction with A patriots
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: captain will be pretty. Popular but that's how you could
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: do it and leave like three hundred bucks on the
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: slate or on the on the lineup from your salary
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: and still play really good plays around it and just
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: build accordingly and probably have way less duplicates than you actually,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: thought and hopefully as little as, possible so you, know
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: just little things like that that you can do to
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: switch it. Up, hoop is there anything else you want
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: to add at the captain's? Spot if, not you can
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: take us through more quarterback thoughts and then right into
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: running back from.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: There the one THING i was going to add about
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: the like the quarterback captains obviously may much more highly
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: owned than dart is you can get i'd, say pretty
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: unique when you're playing those. Lineups there's like a lot
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: of different ways to, go and some of these pass
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: catchers are coming in pretty low. On so like if
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: you are playing those captains up top or this quarterback
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: captains up, top there are ways to go ahead and
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: play that lineup quite a bit. Differently LIKE i, said
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: dropping you, know big chunks of salary for, sure but
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: just the guys alone that we'll talk about when we
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: get to the pass. Catchers some of them are pretty
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: pretty low and relative to the. Slate but, YEAH i
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: mean we already kind of talked about the. CAPTAINS i
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: MEAN i like them both up top may probably end
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: up less than the field in terms of the, ownership
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: But DART i really, LIKE i mean a lot of
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: different ways to get, there multiple touchdown upside on the,
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: ground which is, huge a potential trailing game script which
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: we do like SOMETIMES i think he's totally fine and we're,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: showing oh about, thirteen it's probably gonna end up, ten, eleven, twelve,
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: thirteen somewhere in that. Range and, YEAH i, think you,
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: KNOW i would probably be over on. Him maybe play you,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: know here's one thing you can. Do maybe Play may
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: And darth the same up. Top maybe you find a
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: happy meeting and you play both fifteen or sixteen or
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: seventeen somewhere in that. Range and that's one way to
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: be a little bit different in the field if you
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: are mming on the. Slate but, YEAH i like both
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: of them. INDIVIDUALLY i think both style plays and then
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: if you are playing up, top a lot of different
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: ways to pair, them a lot of different. WAYS i
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: think you can build those unique lineups with those guys
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: in the captain.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Spot, yeah a couple quick things and all that you
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: go into running back was just the you, KNOW i
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Like robinson as. WELL i forgot to mention, this but
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: just noting he's sort of. Priced he's Above, henderson he's
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: just Above digs on the opposite, side it just doesn't
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: look like he's gonna get as much if you look
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: at the, props it's obviously a little bit higher to
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: a little bit better touchdown prop for. Digs but from
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: a yardage perspective and things like, THAT i Think robinson
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: could be involved, plenty AND i find that he's at
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: least become a little bit more games, independent where it's
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: like he can be what's causing them to get up
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: or it's, like oh they're, behind chuck him fifteen yard passes,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: here fifteen yard chunk, there and do it that way
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: and come back with. It SO i think he's pretty
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: interesting up top and you can build differently that. Way
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: we'll talk more about the wide receiver rooms when we go.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Around and then the other thing was just on The
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: tracy thing. Title i'll kick it back to you and
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: you can actually maybe you could start running backs because
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: who gave some other thoughts, there but just noting, it
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: there was actually A i, mean unfortunately my Guy, scat
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: the chain is gonna have to be put on. Hold
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: but this guy might be the best streamer in the
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: world by the way he's incredible on. There but he
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: might realize he doesn't even need to come back and
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: ram his head or into the, wall or he might
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: just do both because he's amazing on. Stream but there
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: was a slate where The giants beat The, eagles if you,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: remember and our, Man Matt bellman got the job done
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: that night for almost eighty k up top with A
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: scat lineup In, Showdown and that's something you could see
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: tonight where you're flipping. It and that's big boy leverage
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: because you're the opposite side of the most popular running
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: back on the, slate and any hend or captain lineup
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: can Be. TRACY i know it's. CRAZY i know the
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: props don't even come. Close it's Still, showdown by the,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: way the props weren't close On scat Versus barkley or
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: whatever it was that night on the prop board. Either
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: so it's a, showdown, right remember, That but any extra
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: thoughts there and then you can take us into running.
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: Backs, Yeah AND i was just thinking on it on
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: the way to the gym this. Morning just like THE jsn.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Stuff If brasma or whatever his name is doesn't throw
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: that underhand pick six to make it ten to nothing
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: and he scores a touchdown seven to, three like that's
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: just a whole different. Ballgame one, thing like they need
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: to throw the. Ball they could throw the ball the
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: next two and a half. QUARTERS jsn could ad one
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: hundred yards like they didn't need to at the end
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: of the, Day like one two plays in the game
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: could just change the whole game script AND i miss
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: extra point little stuff like. That so, yeah like If,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: tracy if they could have had fourteen nothing or just seven.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: NOTHING i tell, myself IF i think If tracy's on
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: the captain on the winner, today AND i know, THAT
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: i probably think it's more of an undergame and just
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: weird stuff. Happens So i'm more likely to play, defense
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: likely to probably leave more. Money you can leave more
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: money when unders hit because points aren't scored as. Much so,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: YEAH i mean we every single. Game you watch The
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: Panthers rams, game you watch stuff Every, sunday random stuff.
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: Happens embrace it and showdown because you can win once
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: every five. Years when you're winning one HUNDRED k or
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: EIGHTY k or forty FOUR, k, like you can play
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: a long. Time so, yeah those are good points on all.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: That running back to be, HONEST i like all four
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: of them Because singletary will be we're showing. FOURTEEN i,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: MEAN i wouldn't be surprised if it was a little.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Lower he's my least favorite, still But STEVENSON i like
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: quite a. Bit it's leverage off of probably the chalkiest
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: play on the, slate or the second. One he's plus
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: two to fifteen to. Score we Have tracy plus two to,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Twenty singletary plus two, Forty trayvon minus one. Ten like
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: all of these guys are. Involved When, trayyon we Know
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: stevenson works Into trayon or like eats Into trayvion's. Workload
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: singletary still eats Into. Tracy's, now last week was a
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: lot Of. Tracy the week prior is a good amount of.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Singletary we don't know what coaches. Do it should Be.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: TRACY i will say both of them seem to be
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: a little, overpriced but that's keeping their ownership in. Check
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: SO i probably wouldn't play both of them, together but
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: they're low enough. Owned if you fall in the box,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: once if you're, Singletary tracy has more. Upside, YEAH i
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: think it's a good way to get. Different SO i
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: like all the running.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Backs, YEAH i think that's another thing. TOO i just
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: want to see this quickly, here just to look at
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: it now THAT i have it. Up So tracy is
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: forty seven and a half To henderson's sixty. Five and
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: now again we look at the props a bunch on,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: here just to get a feel for it and see
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: the all purpose is eighty five and a half to
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: seventy and a. Half it's not actually that. Different obviously
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the touchdown stuff big, difference but a lot of people
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: don't remember, this and it's the same when you're Using.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: Sabersim we talked a ton this morning about pairing up
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: The stone With sabersim on Our Takedown breakdown, show and
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: the idea here, is Like jordan did a great show
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: with us who during the golf, SEASON i remember we
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: were talking about, like, oh if you like this cheap,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: golfer you got to throw him, in but he's gonna
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: mess with YOUR roi or it's not gonna project as. Good, well,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: yeah you didn't boost his. Projection you just went off
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: feel and, SAID i like this guy in this thing,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Here you're not likely to go in and change. It
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: and it's median. Projection but if you Have tracy taking
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the lead that game that scat ended up up, top
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: he had forty six and a half captain, points so
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: you know it's a, point it's one and a HALF.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: X But i'm just saying he had a ton of
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: points up there that would not have been his median
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: so you would actually have to go in and change,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: it and then all those things. Flip that's where you
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: can Put tracy in and say what if he gets
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: one hundred dollar purpose yards And henderson gets seventy five
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: And tracy gets a touchdown and a few catches or
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: whatever it might, Be so that adds. Up that's where
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: you're flipping the game. Script so you got to remember
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: that when you're building your, stuff your inputs are your.
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: Outputs BUT i definitely think that's. Interesting the numbers aren't
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: as far off as one might think they would. Be
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: But henderson's the slamm dunk because the price is so.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Bad by the, way last time someone's price was so,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Bad Brack bauers was nowhere his game yesterday that he
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: just had on a showdown slate either and matchup was still.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Good it wasn't just because of the, price but a
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: way higher factor into why he became so popular and
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: WHY i Think henderson will be so popular is matchup and.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Price you can look at the stone see how good
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the matchup is, Too but guess, what so is the
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: past D the past matchup is pretty good too here
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: for them as. Well so who what do you want
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: to add at the running back. Position i'm just trying
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: to think of a few things as we, go but
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: anything else you got to add?
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: There, YEAH i, mean typically don't like these backup running
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: backs all that, much but this this slate's a little bit.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: DIFFERENT i do a great title all four in play,
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: here AND i think solid plays to some. DEGREE i,
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: mean you, Know henderson is the obvious. Play the obvious
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: play of the slate at EIGHT k is going to be,
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: very very. Popular we know all. That there's nothing more
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: that really needs to be. Said but like if you
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: have a lineup and it makes sense to do, this
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: like you, know just pivoting From henderson To, tracy assuming
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: everything else kind of makes sense in line. Up obviously
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: there's correlation, stuff but if it's just like a one
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: off thing where you just need the last spot and
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: it really doesn't matter for, correlation like just going To
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: tracy From. Henderson it's not really about the, money, man
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: it saves you four hundred, bucks that's not going to do.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Anything it's more about the, ownership and your lineup is
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: going to be much you, know much more unique most
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: likely or much more different than the field less. DUPES
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: i guess it is really What i'm trying to, say
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: half the ownership Between tracy going From henderson to To
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Tracy stevenson fine with. HIM i mean he has the
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: ability to get in, there catch a lot of. Passes
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: he can pay off that FIVE K i think pretty Quickly,
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: singletary you, know twelve carries and then fourteen carries last.
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: WEEK i, mean so HE i know that game did
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: go to overtime against the uh against The, lions but
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: he got a lot of. Work SO i think all
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: these guys are are in play. Today and you, know
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: when we go to wide, receiver there's a lot of question,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Marks so probably leaning these, guys, guys Even stevenson in
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: singletary over some of, these you, know maybe wide receiver
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: twos and wide receiver threes that we're about to talk.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: About, Yeah i'll let you take us there in a.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Second WHEN i ANSWER jp mac. Quick there's a couple.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Options one the offer you see on the, screen if
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: you just want to try out for five days ship,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: nineteen that's gonna get you Tonight. Thursday you'd be able
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: to check it, out play your twenty, lineups see how that.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Goes and that's with the starter or, sorry with The
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Core All access, package so you would get other sports with,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: it but you'd only pay nineteen. Bucks but the better,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: deal for, sure especially if you want to check out
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: the optimizer is like we talked about, HERE i would
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: just do the sixty nine dollars a month because you'll
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: get a bunch of slates out of you get week
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: for the rest of thirteen, tonight, fourteen, fifteen, sixteen. Seventeen
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: people some like paying playing. Eighteen some, don't but this
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: gets you the rest of ship at. Games it works
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: out to very little over the monthly price across all the,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: slates SO i would check that. Out we appreciate you
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: and just hit us up if you have any other.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Questions so, Hoop i'll let you stay with these wide
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: RECEIVERS i mentioned a little bit. Earlier hodgens has been
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: in the mix a little bit more. Lately but we've
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Got dark coming. Back we'll see how that. Goes and
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: then we Got Diggs holland's Booty. Douglass of, course The
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: patriot side is always fully. Loaded but give us your
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: thoughts here at wide.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Receiver, YEAH i, mean for, me it definitely starts with With.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: WANDALE i, MEAN i guess the reason he's getting some,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: ownership but not too much up, TOP i mean only
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: showing like six. PERCENT i, MEAN i think he's got
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: to be a phenomenal play on the. Slate you, know
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: the quarterbacks are getting, more you, know Tre Von henderson
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: definitely getting more. Ownership you got a guy that can
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: get like fifteen, targets ten. Catches you got a guy
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: that can be the optimal captain without scoring a. Touchdown
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: he can get ten for one twenty if all goes as.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: Plans SO i think he's a phenomenal play in all.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: Fourmats you, know perfect guy to put in there if
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: you are going Dark Dark, CAPTAIN a guy that AGAIN
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: i like up top in The captain spot himself definitely
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: my favorite pass catcher on the. Slate i'll stick with
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: The giant. Side it definitely gets dicey after. That Hodgens,
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: SLAYTON i just think these guys are just better suited
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: for you, know The Dark captain. Teams you can Play
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: wandale independent Of Dark, captain but these other, guys you,
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: know kind of prefer them in those sort of. Lineups,
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: Uh slayton has a pretty uncomfortable price tag at six.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Four it's always in the it's you, know at the
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: sixth Flour we always kind of talk about, it like
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: when you're in this sort of, range you gotta do.
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: Something you got to do a little more than something
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: you gotta you, know maybe you, know pick up five
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: catches or get in the end. Zone it's a real price,
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: tag and you, know you, know it is kind of.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Tough so kind of prefer him, BETTER i think in
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Those Dark captain teams The New england. Side it's been
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: difficult all season long really to to pinpoint who it's
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: going to go. To you, Know diggs is obviously the
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: most stable, option but he's been Boom, bus got mc,
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: collins you Got, booty you got To Mario douglass and
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: now they've Introduced Kyle williams as, Well so it's like
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: five wide receivers that are going to get mixed in.
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: There to, me all these guys are just better In
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: May Drake may captain teams and you have a lot of.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Options that's WHY i talked About Drake may captain. Teams
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: it is, easy not, easy BUT i mean you can
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: get a little bit different in Those Drake may captain
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: teams just because of the plethora. Options we haven't got
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: to tight end. Yet so you have five wide receivers
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: that you compare with, Him you compare you, know two of,
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: them maybe three of, them one of, them so you
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: can do it a bunch of different. Ways so that
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: is definitely a plus to Going Drake may at. Captain
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of different options when it comes to roster.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Construction you, know just looking at, it who DO i?
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: PREFER i don't, know man like to me in this
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: scenario WHERE i really don't have a, strong strong, Lean
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: i'm just going to run the teams and kind of
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: take WHAT i get AND i just after. DIGS i
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: just really don't have that much of a. PREFERENCE i
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Mean hollins And booty six two six, eight like their
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: price there right With slaton where you got to do
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: a little more than just something like you, got you
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: gotta do do something plus a little bit. More so
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: it is uncomfortable price tags for those. Guys so probably
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: more again Like drake may captain.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: Teams, YEAH i want to just just to go back
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: a couple of things here real. Quick one is you
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: know we do you, know look at the stone and
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: you look at the. Matchup it's not that great on
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: paper for what you're gonna, see BUT i will say
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: when it comes to. Showdown this is why the deep
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: dive and the thought process matters a little bit more
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: of the, game theory of it and all of, this
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: because if you, look they're both like everything's accounted, for,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Right it's already like we, said it's already baked, in
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: so the books know what the matchup is on both
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: sides of the. Ball the books know about the. Split
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Devin singletary has his own, Props Romandre stevenson has his own,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: props and it's still that. Close and that's with how
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: bad The giants are against the run and how good
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: The patriots have been against the, run and then we'll
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: wait and see how it all shakes. Out But i'm
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: just saying that that's all factored, in so you have
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: to remember that as. Well AND i even think that's
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: important title when looking at these wide. RECEIVERS i know
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: In showdown it matters a lot more because we're comparing
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: five flex. Spot SO i want to bring it up
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: from this perspective to. You but just looking at this
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Specifically Darius slayton on, paper you know he's boom. Bust you,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: know he's a ceiling, guy like he's gonna have to
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: catch it. Whatever but if you're like thinking about it this,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: way as he's, overpriced and last time we did this
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: With Hunter, henry it did not go. Well Hunter henry
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: had himself a huge. Game but just noting, it if you,
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: look can you Believe Hunter henry is seventy four, Hundred
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: he's a thousand more Than. Slayton they have almost the
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: same yardage. Props, right there's, TOUCHDOWNS i get, it and
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: who's more likely in the end? Zone but who knows
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: it hasn't besides two games For, Henry so just again
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: noting it as a single game one night, tonight not
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: caring about all the other. Stuff it's closer than you.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Think if you go look At Mac, hollins he is
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: what sixty two hundred almost the same price As, slayton
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: pretty much the same. Prop how is he any? Different?
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: Almost you, know just about the same thing there. Too
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: so while sometimes people like An Isaiah hodgens title makes
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: people think, like well then how COULD i pay this
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: much For, slayton as they Slide Mac collins Or henry
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: into their lineup for the same or more money for
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: the same, Shit it's, like it's just all what your
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: build tells a. Story it makes. Sense But i'm just
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: noting a lot of the stuff is already accounted, for
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: AND i just don't think people deep dive and see
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: these things go.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Ahead, YEAH i agree With hoop on like everything he.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: Said his first point when he talked about running back
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: was like usually it doesn't like running back as. Much
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: he prefers a, receiver as this late's, different AND i
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: agree like part of the REASON i like all four
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: running backs IS i don't really like any of these.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: Receivers almost Wind mills by far my. FAVORITE i think
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: everyone else is pretty much. Overpriced digs eighty eight. HUNDRED
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: i don't go colect set it in, chat he played
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: like fifty percent of snaps like it was way way
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: better role For diggs When booty was, Out booty comes.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: Back booty and mac collins are playing a lot of
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: the two two wide receiver when they have two wide receiver.
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Personnel the thing is they like to run the. Football
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: they have tight ends they can spread it out. With
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: Drake may can use his legs like sixty eight, Hundred
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: booty sixty two, hundred. Maccollins it's over, Priced there's no
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: other way around. It thirty five and a half receiving
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: prop thirty one and a. Half, now that's why their
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: ownership's kind of. Low In May captain And Dark captain.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: TEAMS i prefer playing these, guys but If i'm, not,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: LIKE i don't want to play. Much digs thirty six
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: percent for guy that's eighty eight hundred on the field
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: fifty percent of the, time just has to be bad
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: in my. Opinion Pot douglas plays like eight. SNAPS i
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: don't need. Him booty's, overpriced but at least he's on the.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: FIELD i can say the same thing WITH.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Matc.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Collins SO i guess those two are my favorite paths.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: Receivers wondale's by far my favorite, receiver and Then Giant Side,
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Hodgens like he's running the, same like same amount of
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: routes and on this, field the same amount As slaton
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: and you're getting almost a THREE k price. Discount So slayton's, fine,
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: sure But hodgens is definitely my other favorite, Receiver Wondale.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Hodgens and, YEAH i don't really like too many other,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: ones but When i'm Playing, may When i'm Playing Dark,
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: captain like we keep, saying it's a lot easier to
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: throw them, in BUT i think the receiving rooms pretty. Overpriced,
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: yeah it's.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: Pretty tricky to. Tell LIKE i, said when you look,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: across it's not that far off, Though like that's the other,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Thing like, again looking at the, snapcounts they're important and
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: all that stuff matters one game. Tonight we have to
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: see how it shakes. Out but Like douglas is four
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: yards or five yards less Than. Hodgens, again people see
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: hodgens last two games and immediately ASSUME i was on
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: The hodgens train since day, one talking about The kafka
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: connection and all that, stuff and tonight he'll be popular
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: for good, Reason but a lot of it's to do
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: with the basis of what we've seen the last two
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: games and how bad it makes the other prices. Look
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: But i'm with, you. GUYS i like The robinson, stuff
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: and THEN i like sort of spinning the wheel because
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be just in different lineups where different things
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: make sense and somebody is gonna get the one v
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: one wrong OF i Had booty but it Was, douglas
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: OR i Had douglas but it Was, hollins and that
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: lineup left the money on the table AND i could
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: have got to. Him, still it's, like that's how that's
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: gonna shake. Out so and, yeah my, Man, ross this
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: is he's just trolling.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: Us.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: NOW i THINK i Love, ross but it's, like, yeah
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: ONE td slate and zero and ten tonight could be
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: an eighty yard, touchdown another thirty yard, catch two for
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: for the one whatever it, is and the bonus and
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: the touchdown and the scores and all. That you just
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: have no idea until it. Happens but what you do
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: know is what is considered, overpriced what makes the ownership.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Lower all these other factors is all the information we
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: have going. In nobody that's doing a show knows the.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Results all we can do is talk about how to
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: try and put the pieces. Together and that's the key.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Here so looking at it from that angle could be.
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: Tricky.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Hoop i'll go back to you for the tight, Ends Hunter,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Henry Theo. Johnson then it's after that it's a bit
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: of a spin the. Wheel but you, know sometimes you
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: see a guy CATCHING, i oh, shit that's actually, Awesome.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: HOOPER i THOUGHT i was did have the big game
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: after we you, know looked at his game log there that.
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: Time, yeah it's tough when you're watching that Those patriots
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: games and you're you're rooting For Hunter henry and the
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: past goes To hooper and you think It's henry and
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: it's it's. Not It's. Hooper their bodies are very. Similar their.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: NUMBERS i think what won apart one's eighty five and
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: one's eighty six or something that looks like the same,
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: thing same first, letter of the last, Name so, yeah
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: but in regards TO, dfs AND i think Like cooper
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: And bellinger just better for Those Drake may And jackson
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: dark captain. Teams we kind of talked about it with
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: those wide, receivers Like i'd throw those two in the
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: same category where IF i am playing them in, flex
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: it's it's probably more going to be in the quarterback captain.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: TEAMS i Think Hunter henry's a phenomenal play boom bust
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: nature perfect FOR. Dfs he's had monster monster games this,
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: season seventy four, hundred kind of right there With Trayvon,
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: henderson who we know is going to be very. Popular
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: So i'm in On. Henry and THEN i really Like
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: Theo johnson, too kind of breakout season for. Him fifty
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: eight hundred is. Cheap he's, priced you, know kind of
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: similarly to a lot of those wide receivers that we
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: just talked, About AND i prefer him by by a,
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: mile and definitely prefer him over those backup running backs as,
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: well and not looking like crazy ownership on, him LIKE
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: i figured he be higher owned. Captain he's getting like
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: nothing flax right around twenty, percent twenty one twenty, two
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: LIKE i think he's a phenomenal play when you start
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: factoring in ownership in that sort of. Thing so you,
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: know these these two tight, ends the top tight, ends
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: are two of my favorite plays on the. Slate when
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: when you factor everything into the, equation Then hooper And
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: bellinger just, on not just, on but better suited for
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: those quarterback captain.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Teams, yeah there'll be separators or like you, say separators
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: to make those more popular captains. Work SO i like
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: that call out as, well titled the you, know price
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: discrepancy like you talked about EVON Theo johnson eighty seven
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: hundred In The. Captain we hit on that a little bit,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: earlier but now even in The flax fifty eight. Hundred
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: and then To hoop's point With Hunter henry, again lots
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: will play him And henderson, together but more would just
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Play henderson when you look at him at EIGHT k
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: than they would At henry at seventy four. Hundred so
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: thoughts on the tight, ends the, backups anything else you
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: want to add.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: There, YEAH i LIKE theo john AND i think the
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: price is, good but outside of, that Like henry feels
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: overpriced to, Me bellinger And hooper like they don't sound.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Appealing If i'm playing eight teams or, Less i'm probably
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: not playing either of. Them they'll trickle, in maybe they'll
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: catch a touchdown is the reason you're playing them. For but,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: YEAH i think like seventy four hundred is a big
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: number and we're gonna go into kicker and. DEFENSE i
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: think this is a. SLATE i like them a lot
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: BECAUSE i THINK i can go From Henry, Booty Slayton
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: Matt collins and just go to either kicker either defense
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: and it's like two thousand, there AND i don't really
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: see myself giving up. Anything so, Yeah i'm probably gonna
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: be underweight on all the tight ends EXCEPT. THEO i
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: THINK theo is a great.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Play, yeah And i'm curious, Too LIKE i guess the
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: thing about, these especially on The New england, side just
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: to wrap up sort of pass catchers in, general they're
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: all very expensive for if we don't get like a
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: super high scoring, game, right because then it's like who's
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: actually Need that's where Like henry's fifteen points could be
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: phenomenal because it's like who knows if the other guy
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: don't come through and they all just get a few
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: catches and it's more run the ball and just stop the,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: clock or SO i keep the clock running and move
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: it short passes over the. Field you could see a
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: lot more running, backs tight, ends, quarterbacks, defenses kickers like
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: stuff like that is required a lot more than the wide.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Receivers and that'll be a lot of dead lineups because
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: we got to play roulette on the wide. Receivers so
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: if you have a single entry or something like, that
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: where you can find a way to build it in your,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: favor where you're comfortable with, it it tells a story
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: and you don't have to guess in that, POSITION i
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be afraid that you're you, know everyone else is
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: gonna guess and mme. Stuff, Sure but in like a single,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: entry it's gonna be less people doing. That SO i
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: think that's where you could just sort of stand by
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: with what you. Like all those guys big price tags
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: to hit if digs eighty, eight hundred sixty Two Mac
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: hollins sixty, eight booty you, know seventy Four henry like you, Said, so,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: YEAH i like that call, It AND i think that's
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: another interesting thing about. Tonight it also makes me think
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: hoop before we go to kickers And d's a little
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: bit about the roster. CONSTRUCTIONS i know we'll have mixes
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: of all of. Them i'm just in the portfolio. Stuff
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: but even for, like IF i had a single, ENTRY
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: i would highly consider The giants three, three So giants
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: captain three three Or giants four to two at the
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: captain just because you can afford a. Lot you could
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: still get two of the better options from The patriots
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: side and be just fine and maybe not even have
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: to guess on the. Receivers but because the pricing is
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: a little bit better on the you, know One dale's not,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: better he's two hundred bucks more Than. Diggs but if
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: you go with One dale and then you GET theo
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: who's less Than Hunter, henry you, know you could be
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: able to still mix in some of those guys and
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: get some different builds that way That i'd be more
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: than comfortable, with just because of how expensive all the
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: pass catchers are for The, patriots anything else you want
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: to add, there if Not kickers And.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: D's so For kickers And, D'S i think The patriots
• 40:45
  Speaker 4: probably get decent chunk ownership, here probably again more than
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: what we're. Showing we're we got it at like nineteen
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: saber heads it at, fifteen probably into the low twenties
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: would be my, guess just because people are gonna look
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: at this and they're gonna get those wide receivers that
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: we talked about and just, say, man just give me
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: like the defense over. That SO i Think patriots gets
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: steamed up a little.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Bit.
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: GIANTS i don't have a ton of interest in but.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: KICKERS i will, Say, man This Bora gallas. Guy he's
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: on my season long team and he gets the job.
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Done he definitely gets the job. Done it's my starting
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: kicker for my first place, team And i'm definitely interested
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: tonight at forty, eight cheap price, tag big, upside, phenomenal phenomenal,
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: Play so in on. Him and you, know Young, WAYKU
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: i don't know Like i'll have, some But boragallas is my,
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: guy big on Borag gallas.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: Tonight you got the game log for? Him what do
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: we got game?
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: Log ALL i know is he's led me to a few.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: Victories he's has a. BIT i mean he's had some monster.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: Scores IF i let's, see he's had eighteen last, week
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: he had thirteen a few weeks, ago a nine spot
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: like he's he gets the job, done that's for.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Sure borgallas captain tonight. Title what do you?
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Think, YEAH i don't know If i'm gonna go that.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Far Maybe i'll leave that to. Who but, yeah LIKE i,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: said with their, PRICING i THINK i IF i think
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: pretty much the whole wide receiver room is. Overpriced, Hunter henry's.
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: Overpriced they're all priced Above kickers And. D'S i can
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: easily see money being dropped and them out scoring. Them so,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah i'm gonna play all four of.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: Them, yeah we can.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Easily see passes being dropped a lead To Borg gallas
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: kicks from those same. Guys so that's definitely enough opportunity
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: right there that you just came up with on the.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: FLY i like that anything on the defense side of.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Things just like you, SAID i do think what you
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: noted is key like The kickers forty four and forty
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: Eight hoop talked a little bit about as, well like,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: that that's something. Here BUT i do think The patriots
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: could still push like twenty percent here in the. Flex.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah the thing, IS i, mean, yeah maybe maybe they.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: Can and the thing Is dark can make, mistakes and
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: he likes to run the, football And Drake may likes
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: to run the football and make plays with his legs
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: and quarterbacks like. That, yeah they can put up points
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: and bury, you but they can make mistakes because they
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: use their, legs and they can try and make extra.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Plays SO i CAN i can see a path for.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: Both and then you keep talking chat is about The patriots.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Line campbell's, abs he's. Out it could be like the
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: whole left. Side, yeah you can see the giant skin
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: after maybe a little.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Bit, Yeah i'm gonna put another one on the line.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: Here who JUST i should have said it, yesterday but
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: YOU i did hint at. It there's nothing more obvious
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: than When Kenneth walker is chalk Than charbonnet scoring a.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: Touchdown it was, like, literally if you've been playing this
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: game any amount of, time anyone could have told you,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: that and we just you, know didn't fully talk about.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: It you don't get the best odds, still but that's
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: part of the. EQUATION i think tonight we gotta bet
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: The Remandre stevenson any time it's plus two. Twenty it's
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: not that. Scary they literally can just plug him. In
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: the whole assumption is off of how you, Know henderson
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: had had the backfield to, him like still kind of
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: had it to, himself even With stevenson coming. Back BUT i, just,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: man you just gotta know when they get to the goal,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: tonight it Won't it might not even Kill. Henderson it
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: just maybe. Something but that's WHY i like the anytime
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: touchdown BECAUSE i feel like that's WHAT i should have
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: said yesterday For charbonney and it was just so, clear so.
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: Obvious this one feels like A stevenson spot right, here
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: So i'll stick with.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: It, yeah it's a good.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Call they've been trying to jam even last game. Too
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: by the, way didn't they Jam jennings at the line
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: for one.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: Time, yeah they're. Fine they're fine giving it to anyone
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: when it gets down. THERE i mean they've they have
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: been very open to who gets the ball at the,
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: goal and it's nobody's.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Job, Yeah i'm trying to Put. No plus fourteen hundred
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: down on this line for, people BUT i would definitely
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: at the two TWENTY i see On, Stevenson i'll be
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: interested just in you call it hedge. Life you know
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: everybody out there building lineups right, now go Look remandre
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Or henderson is in all of, them if not ninety
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: percent of. Them so just a note you get your
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Little remandre in there for your any time. Touchdown maybe that,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: helps but title anything else you want to add on
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: anything else. Here if, not we'll look at some of
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: the fan duel stuff back and forth and try and
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: see some of those.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Discrepancies, yeah nothing really on the FanDuel side or on
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: the or just total looking on the FanDuel, side, though
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: it looks like a pretty similar. Slate Darius slayton has
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: a better price On FanDuel Than, DraftKings the like complete
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: value that really doesn't look like. Anyone the cheapest Is
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: Daniel bellinger at one point. Eight that seems viable and
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: just naturally when let's see the next highest Is Austin
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: hooper at two. Weights he's one k less than everyone.
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: Else that pretty much has a. Projection those guys get
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: just get stemed a little more than they should because
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: people can fall into naturally spend up for May henderson.
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: Stuff hodgens has a good, price but he does on both. Sides,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: yeah it looks like a really similar. Slate BORGALLIS i
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: think is gonna be pretty. Popular drake May, Henderson i'm
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: not seeing too much.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Different Mac hollins break the slate, NIGHT i, know Because
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: darius break the Slateon but why is Mac hollins eighty
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: six hundred on FanDuel when they basically Put Hunter henry
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: at the exact same price like everybody else is sort
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: of Normal Stefan, DIGGS i guess he's big boy price.
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: T, yeah they got they got those guys up, there
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Like digs eleven, Four, henderson you, know the eight k ON,
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: dk he's eleven eight on. FanDuel The Matt collins for
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: sure at eighty. Six that sounds stands out as opposite
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: WHERE i, mean he's not really great ON. Dk he's
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: definitely not great on FanDuel at eighty, six even Like
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: remondre has a bigger price like seven to Two Devin
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: singletary eight two eight two For. Singletary so they've priced
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: a lot of these guys. Up SO i think roster,
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: construction it's probably more difficult On FanDuel than it is ON.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: Dk slayton got the price, Drop So slayton's sixty four
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: hundred And hallands sixty. Two but if you take it
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: over To, DraftKings holland goes up to eighty, Six hollins
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: And slayton goes down to fifty. Two, well everyone else
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: sort of has these crazy. Bumps that's that's, nuts, man that's.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: Crazy you guys remember this, slate don't you?
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Know oh, yeah.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: HUH i did not win money on this. SLATE i
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: remember just being my, god how is this guy getting another?
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Touchdown another, one another? One it was. Nuts jonahs spray,
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: man shout out to the. Goat he says crazy title anything, else,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: man anything else you want to add? Here final thoughts
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: for the day before we get out of.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Here, No i'm hoping we see a competitive. GAME i
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: hope we see something like. Yesterday mariota completely balled out
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: that that was a good football. GAME i, mean just
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: all the way till the. END i mean the D
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: m made a heck of a. Play he had them
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: wide open out of the flats to win it for
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: the two point and he made a heck of a.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: Play broncos continue to win. GAMES i do not know
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: how they. Win we will see if they can carry
• 47:34
  Speaker 3: on to the.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: PLAYOFFS i mean they were the the you can't blame
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: like The RAFs all that. Often that was probably the
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: worst officiated Game i've seen in a, While, like really
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: really bad, calls all in favor of the broncrams like
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: all of. Them it was pretty.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: Wild they needed, them but they didn't get them at
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: The they didn't Cover so, yeah that's the, issue, right
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: they wanted, that they didn't get it there in. Time
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: mariota is too. Good mariotte is too good until he's. Not,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: yeah what what was this? One? Oh nad's asked, this
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: but somebody asked us, Earlier, hoop did you have any
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: final thoughts on? This on the? Slate and this one
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: was a good. Question people asked about playing Like Hendo remandre, Together.
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: So what are you what are you banking on? There
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: it's like you're banking on a probably A patriots, blowout,
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: right like where they win thirty five to ten or
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: something like. THAT i probably want to throw the defense
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: in with that sort of.
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: BILL i wouldn't Play Drake may Probably, no all the
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: touchdowns come through the.
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: Ground, yeah you're saying thirty five to. Ten those guys
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: get three to four touchdowns, combined and The giants really
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: don't do. Much so for, me it would be like
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: those two with the defense and you, know maybe One
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: dale or something where he's getting a bunch of dump
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: offs in garbage time and he doesn't end up scoring
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: something like that is HOW i think you would build.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: That one of the things about that title is like
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: those builds ALWAYS i shouldn't say. ALL i can't say.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: Always anything IN dfs isn't nothing IN dfs as, Always
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: BUT i will say those builds always end up so
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: popular where it's like because it just lands on the same.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: Thing once you do, that who Made Perfect points kind
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: has to be that game you build to tell a.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Story if it, happens you still want to be part
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: of the winning. CREW i get, it but that's usually
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: chopped heavily because if it lands On wandale gets, who
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: everybody plugs in as the run back and then spoiler,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: alert the one touchdown they score Isn't, wandale it's Not,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: hodgens it's Not Deo, johnson but congrats To Daniel bellinger
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: on his. Touchdown and some random person has it for
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: like the three hunderd k unique and you're, like how
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: the hell did they land on? This and it's just
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: dumb shit like. That so it's hard to land on
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: those builds and get them.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: Right it, IS i will, say like the power using
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: like sabersim or if you use an, optimizer and you
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: play a lot of, teams you will get gross. Teams
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: the TEAM i was sitting up there, WITH i wouldn't
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: Net James, cook it's a. Captain and then All texans
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: players as dogs like a one five like, No Josh,
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: allen who's the grossest team of all? TIME i, mean
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: that's why it was a unique because no one wants
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: to click that. BUTTON i lost my. Butt like that's
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: why when you, win if you do stuff like that
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: and you keep the same, bankroll shout out. YESTERDAY i
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: can't remember her, name but forty four. THOUSAND i don't
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: think she maxed. IT i don't know what she, played
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: but if she plays that same mount every single, week
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: like she'll be she'll be positive for a long long.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: Time and that's what you gotta. Do, so, yeah when you,
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: win how much do you?
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: Win but some of the.
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: Builds are, gross there's no doubt about. That THEN i Trust.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: SABER i will SAY i won't do her full name
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: on here because IT'S i, MEAN i don't know if
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: she posted it ON x under full, name But hartist
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: twenty four k is her. Name She's i'm a big
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: fan of. You you and who've Been you've been with
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: you guys from the previous site and then ship At,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: nation which is WHY i followed you guys. Here i'm
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: also a lifetime Master my, member been solely going through
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: the videos on both Ship It nation And, mastermind so
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: she's thanks. Us and that's a, HUGE i mean just crazy.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Testimonials love that. Stuff when people are out there turning
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: very little money into an absolute ton of money forty
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: four thousand at the top last, night that's great. Stuff
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: and we've had it sort of all season. Long we've
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: seen it, weekly different, sports everything like. That so it's
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun just to see it play. Out
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: but people are starting to. Realize even someone said it
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: to this morning Hoop, Too andrew our guy. Chief he
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: always hits us. Up he, said he said something that
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: was so honest THAT i. LOVED i, mean show's done,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: anyway so everyone's to stick around can BUT i thought
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: it was, good he. Said WHEN i first, joined he,
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: SAID i follow you title and Hoops core AND i
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: would just plug that in and roll and he's, LIKE
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: i felt pretty good about. It but he, said not
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: to be, rude but he's, LIKE i never do that.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Anymore and he's like it's not against it's not a
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: testament against. You it's a testament for what you've. Created he.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Said that's like NOW i have my own. PROCESS i
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: can dig into the, DATA i can use the. STONE
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: i can check stuff out and make good lineups and
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: know HOW i got to. Them and that's really what
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: we've been trying to do since day. One will always
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: be our thing over. HERE i JUST i love hearing
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: stories like that because the cores are what people want
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: and they followed them. Forever but you're going down with
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: the ship when the ship goes, down and we want
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: you to be able to make it repeatable and know
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: how you got.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: There that's why we've always said it from the beginning
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: that like everything we offer is a piece of the,
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: pie a piece of your. Pie you have to determine
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: what that pie is and the pieces that go into.
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: It but it's just everything is one, piece like we
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: said it from day. ONE i don't want anyone signing
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: up at ship a nation and, Say i'm just Jamming
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: tambo's core every single day And i'm gonna hope it.
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: Hits if he, HITS i, Hit i'm riding With. Tamba
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: let's go like. That is not good for, anybody and
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: like we want every piece of content to potentially go
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: into that, equation every piece of content that you. Use
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: there's not one secret sauce TO dfs like you see
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: it all the. Time top players get to the top
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: and then you never see their name again because they
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: don't adapt to the. Environment they don't adapt to the content,
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: contests they don't adapt to the. Changes so it's an
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: forever evolving. Situation AND i love hearing. THAT i love
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: hearing that because we've been clear from day one we're
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: offering a wide variety of. Content you gotta find what
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: works for. You you gotta find what works for you
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: as an individual, player improve your, game put in the.
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: Work there's no easy there's no secret weapon, here there's
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: no end all be, all there's no piece of content
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: that if you use it every day you're gonna. Win
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: no one's offering. That that's why such a pet peeve
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: of mine where people will, say, oh, yeah you, know
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: sign up for us and you're winning on day, One
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: you're gonna, win will make you a. Winner Hell, no
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: that's not, life that's not. Reality no matter what you're.
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Doing, yeah you still got to put in the. WORK
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: i always use The personal trainer one, title but you go.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: There everybody wants to lose. Weight we know why you
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: shut up to the personal, trainer but it's like they
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: can only tell you so. Much you gotta go. Home
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to have that discipline with the you,
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: know on the, scale with the food that you're, eating
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: hitting the, gym whatever it, requires cardio, sessions the, sauna
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: if you're gonna be hitting that thing up on our.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: World BUT i think it's pretty pretty. Interesting and just
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: to hear people say that, stuff obviously it's what it's all.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: About you've been with us here pretty much since day,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: one so you're all about that as. Well anything you
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: want to add the man.
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: If just to add on To nady's, comment stone is
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: the closest piece of content. Too that The stone is
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: the closest piece of content to that because it's bringing
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: a lot of content into one, spot. RIGHT i, mean
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: it's taking a bunch of different pieces of content and
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: delivering it in one, area. RIGHT i mean The stone
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: is kind of a pie in itself where it's pulling
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: from a bunch of different areas to bring it to
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: one viewing. Point for, you, yeah.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah and JUST i, mean like if you're on
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: a down, swing even if you're an upswing it's a
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: lot harder to do, though but like check your. Work
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: you guys do The takedown breakdown Every. MONDAY i, MEAN
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: i was on a little down swing. Myself i'm in the.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: Weeds nice thing about sabersim is that you can look
• 54:41
  Speaker 3: at a lot of. Stuff you can look at what
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: the best players play and specific contest and the best
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: sports and all that stuff that's a starter pack or,
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: above which is. Nice it's not just. Ultimate you don't
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: need to be spending hundreds of dollars a month to get.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: That BUT i just think from core to starter, alone
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: getting contest flashbacks a huge. Thing there's a lot you
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: can take. Away, yeah down, swings you should for sure do.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: It why AM i losing? Money try and figure that.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Out but, yeah even when you're, winning IT'S i, mean
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: you need a lot of luck in this. Game whether
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: you're on the biggest heater of all, time you should
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: realize there's a little luck slash probably a lot of
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: luck that has to go into. That you're on the
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: biggest losing, streak that doesn't mean you're playing. Awful you
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: could be getting really. Unlucky that's part of what we.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: Do but still try and dig in and see. That so,
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: yeah always try and get.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: BETTER i like the downswing comment because one of my
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: recent favorite. Quotes you guys, Know i'm digging into the
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: books AND i was reading this stuff, crazy BUT i
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: always put it out. There BUT i like it. Said
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: a breakdown is an opportunity for a. Breakthrough, right if
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: you've had a, breakdown it's not going, good it's an
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: opportunity for a. Breakthrough but the keyword is. Opportunity if
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: you don't go back to, work or you don't figure
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: out what caused the breakdown or how it, is a
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: lot of people just like to blame luck or oh
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: if you don't have one hundred and fifty, lineups if, this,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: that and the. Other it's just not. True it's simply not.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: True so we appreciate our community out. There we know
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: everybody that's here supports us everything that we. Do when
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: we can't thank you. Enough hope everybody had a great holiday.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: WEEK i think that's gonna do. It hoop anything else
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: you want to, add man or good to, role.
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: Good, role good luck, tonight and Uh. Yeah LIKE i,
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: said let's let's finish off the week strong and get
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: those shiping nation logos at the top of the.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: Leaderboard let's do it for, title For hoop and for
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: myself Totagging. Tambo thanks for watching led Ship.
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