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The Ron Verb Show - Full Broadcast from Friday, 10/09/26 · Ron Verb

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  Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on News Radio 570 WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: Well, welcome one and all. How about those guardians? Let
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  Speaker 2: me just start today by saying that, man. What a game.
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  Speaker 2: What a game. What a game. And who isn't looking
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  Speaker 2: forward to Saturday? I mean, it's just exciting. Anyway, good afternoon.
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  Speaker 2: Perfect day weather-wise, 73 degrees. Welcome to Friday, October 9th.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to start the program out with a discussion.
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  Speaker 2: And see, here's the difference. This is not going to
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  Speaker 2: be a debate. This is going to be a discussion
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  Speaker 2: so that we can learn what one man is thinking,
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  Speaker 2: what the other man is thinking. And we can all
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  Speaker 2: learn from that. I got on my one line, Mahoning
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  Speaker 2: County Commissioner Gino DeFabio. Hi, Gino.
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  Speaker 3: Good afternoon, sir.
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  Speaker 2: How are you doing?
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  Speaker 4: Good.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you making the time for us as always. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: And as I say, we're going to have a discussion,
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  Speaker 2: not so much of a debate. And let's see, Rich,
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  Speaker 2: a pharmacist is on my other line that has some
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  Speaker 2: disagreements over the new government center and where it's going
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  Speaker 2: to be. Rich, good afternoon to you.
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  Speaker 3: Good afternoon, gentlemen. How are you?
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Rich.
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  Speaker 3: How are you?
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  Speaker 2: Let me start, and I want to start with Gino
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  Speaker 2: to just talk. And, Rich, sit tight and explain to
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  Speaker 2: people about this process and why you decided to choose
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  Speaker 2: the Eastgate and why you did what you did. And
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  Speaker 2: then we'll sit back and listen.
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  Speaker 6: Well, we'll go back about five years, Ron, if you'll remember.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I do.
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  Speaker 6: My first campaign. It was actually spurred on because I
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  Speaker 6: don't use the services down there except maybe get a
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  Speaker 6: title once or twice. But Ralph Meacham put out a
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  Speaker 6: complete report and told us how Oak Hill was bleeding
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  Speaker 6: Mahoney County Drive. I think it's still on his website.
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  Speaker 6: The $ 20 or $ 30 million we put into that building
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  Speaker 6: over the last so many years, I think they've been
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  Speaker 6: in there about maybe close to 20 years. So I
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  Speaker 6: had the opportunity to go down and visit. Not the
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  Speaker 6: Board of Elections, not the title, not veterans, but I
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  Speaker 6: went just behind the closed doors that you couldn't see.
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  Speaker 6: And what I saw was shocking.
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  Speaker 2: Explain to our listeners.
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  Speaker 6: Well, part of the building was demoed. A lot of
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  Speaker 6: the building has peeling paint. There's still hospital supplies. There's
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  Speaker 6: still calendars. Nothing was ever done with the rest of
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  Speaker 6: the building because, frankly, it's too expensive to try to
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  Speaker 6: turn an old hospital into into productive office space. So
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  Speaker 6: they fixed up what was feasible at the time. And
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  Speaker 6: the rest of it, we've just been paying for. Now,
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  Speaker 6: in that building, there's no way to partition off the
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  Speaker 6: heating and the cooling. So that entire building runs off
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  Speaker 6: of air handlers in the basement. It's not like a
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  Speaker 6: mini split. You can't go in a room and shut
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  Speaker 6: off the heat. So like I said, I don't have
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  Speaker 6: that study in front of me, but Ralph put out
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  Speaker 6: a very comprehensive and complete study of what the bills
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  Speaker 6: were at that time and the cost and how we
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  Speaker 6: have to find another option for Oak Hill.
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  Speaker 2: Just so we get an understanding from you is basically
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  Speaker 2: when you're heating or cooling, you have to heat and
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  Speaker 2: cool the entire facility, correct? Even the parts you're not using.
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  Speaker 2: And the hospital rooms are still basically intact as they
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  Speaker 2: were as far as patient rooms, correct?
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  Speaker 6: Well, yes. And the offices that are being housed now
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  Speaker 6: in the jobs and family services, and the child support,
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  Speaker 6: those are all hospital rooms. And some of them still
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  Speaker 6: have fixtures on the walls. They're the size of hospital rooms.
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  Speaker 6: There's nothing efficient or nothing effective for running business out
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  Speaker 6: of that building. At the time, I understand at the
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  Speaker 6: time when they got it, there was a lot going on,
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  Speaker 6: and they had an opportunity to take that building, and
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  Speaker 6: I guess they got a hell of a price on it.
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  Speaker 6: But 20 years later, or whatever it is now, We
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  Speaker 6: have to move on it because the building itself, the
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  Speaker 6: systems that are in there from the roof to the boilers,
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  Speaker 6: we're replacing.
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  Speaker 3: A boiler now.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's over $ 100, 000 just for one boiler. It's
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  Speaker 6: not going to be any better in five years to
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  Speaker 6: make this move then. So the county, before I started,
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  Speaker 6: came in. They started looking for a new building. And
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  Speaker 6: That's where the Patriot building, they call it the imposition.
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  Speaker 6: The county calls it the Patriot building. The imposition building
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  Speaker 6: came to be. Well, that building, number one, it wasn't right-sized.
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  Speaker 6: It was always a beautiful building, but it couldn't house
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  Speaker 6: two of the departments that they wanted to put in
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  Speaker 6: there wouldn't fit. So they talked about rehabbing it, and
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  Speaker 6: I'm telling you, I've talked to the Port Authority and
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  Speaker 6: everyone else. What the cost would have been out there.
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  Speaker 6: Between the parking lot, the roof, and the air handlers
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  Speaker 6: was almost $ 2 million. And somebody, I guess the best
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  Speaker 6: commissioner ever, went on and said, oh, we could have
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  Speaker 6: spent a million and a half a minute in that building.
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  Speaker 6: That's simply not true. It would have been a lot
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  Speaker 6: more than that. And it wouldn't have solved the problem
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  Speaker 6: of about 300 people that would have been left at
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  Speaker 6: Oak Hill. And we would have had to find another building,
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  Speaker 6: another location to put them, maybe rent or something. Well,
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  Speaker 6: that wasn't... To me, and I asked before they took
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  Speaker 6: the vote to buy that building, Commissioner Trafficante voted no.
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  Speaker 6: But even before they had the vote, I said, could
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  Speaker 6: you please wait? I said, what would it hurt? I said,
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  Speaker 6: I'm elected. I'm the new commissioner. I'm going to be
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  Speaker 6: sitting right there in about three weeks. I said, can
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  Speaker 6: you wait six weeks before we do this so I
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  Speaker 6: can have a say? Because going forward... I'm going to
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  Speaker 6: have to deal with whatever the consequences are buying this
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  Speaker 6: building and then figuring out the rest of the pieces
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  Speaker 6: of the puzzle. And I was told no. Had to
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  Speaker 6: do it today.
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  Speaker 3: Had to do it today.
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  Speaker 7: Had to do it today.
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  Speaker 6: Which I don't believe is 100% true either in finding
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  Speaker 6: out now, whatever.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't believe it then. I don't believe it now.
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  Speaker 6: So they went ahead and bought the building. Subsequent to that,
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  Speaker 6: the Eastern Gateway property... became available. They went out of
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  Speaker 6: business or whatever. The state owned it. The Port Authority
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  Speaker 6: looked at it, and it's a complete city block in
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  Speaker 6: the middle, in pretty much the end of downtown, but
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  Speaker 6: it's downtown. And they bought it. They said, we want
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  Speaker 6: to redevelop it because the parking deck, Rich, you can't
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  Speaker 6: use it. It was condemned in April of 2025. So
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  Speaker 6: we can't say, well, it's already a parking deck there,
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  Speaker 6: and they're going to tear down and build a parking deck.
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  Speaker 3: That's stupid.
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  Speaker 6: But that parking deck is unusable.
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  Speaker 3: It's unsafe. That's why it's closed. What's the demolition cost, Gino?
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  Speaker 3: What's that? What's the demolition cost to wreck Eastern Gateway? Well,
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell you.
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  Speaker 6: If the prices came in, they put out bids for it.
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  Speaker 6: I think 20 people took out a contract or picked
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  Speaker 6: up the bid packet. And I think there was like
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  Speaker 6: five or six that come back. And I think the
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  Speaker 6: estimate was about $ 4. 5 million to tear it down. I believe,
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  Speaker 6: and don't quote me because I don't know, because this
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  Speaker 6: is the Port Authority's... The Port Authority's advertising everything and
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  Speaker 6: letting all the contracts.
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  Speaker 2: But I think.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting because I was.
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  Speaker 2: Hang on.
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  Speaker 3: Let Gino finish.
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  Speaker 2: Let Gino finish his thought. Go ahead, Gino.
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  Speaker 3: 4.2.
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  Speaker 6: It was over $ 4 million was the contractor's estimate because
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  Speaker 6: that building... And I never heard of anything, and I'll tell.
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  Speaker 3: You a funny story. We were... Mr.
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  Speaker 6: Moransky stood up at a meeting and said, I never
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  Speaker 6: heard we had to get an engineering study to tear
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  Speaker 6: down a building because they had to get an engineering
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  Speaker 6: study because of the way that was built. That was
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  Speaker 6: built in the early 70s as Plaza Place, I believe
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  Speaker 6: they called it. And it was built with post-tension concrete.
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  Speaker 6: So when they start taking that apart, literally, if you
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  Speaker 6: don't do it in a certain way, it explodes.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it literally explodes.
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  Speaker 6: And across the street, the Port Authority owns the City
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  Speaker 6: Center 1 building. They got a lot of glass windows.
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  Speaker 6: But anyways, they had to, you know, it's an intricate
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  Speaker 6: thing tearing it down. You would think like they did
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  Speaker 6: the realty tower. They just kept hitting it until it fell.
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  Speaker 6: You can't do that with this kind of concrete. But
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  Speaker 6: it was built like that because there was supposed to
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  Speaker 6: be a hotel built above that, which.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know. Can I interject on something real quick?
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: You just said the Patriot building was going to cost
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  Speaker 3: about $ 1. 5 to $ 2 million just for air handlers, roof,
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  Speaker 3: things like that, correct? Right. $ 4. 5 million or $ 4 million,
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  Speaker 3: whatever this bid comes out to be, just to demolish
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  Speaker 3: the Eastern Gateway building, we're going to blow $ 4 million?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 6: Versus $ 2 million that you could have spent on Patriot.
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  Speaker 6: Here's the thing. The Port Authority bought that building.
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  Speaker 2: Hang on. Let Rich make up.
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  Speaker 4: $ 3.
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  Speaker 3: 3 million.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: You're still a million dollars over what you would have
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  Speaker 3: had in renovations on the Patriot building. If we were
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  Speaker 3: going to build this new building, Gino, for $ 10 million,
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  Speaker 3: I could see where you're going, but we're spending $ 60
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  Speaker 3: million on this new building. The math that you're giving
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  Speaker 3: just in the long term doesn't add up. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: just like I was, one of the other listeners that
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  Speaker 3: I'm friends with sent me the estimates that he ran
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  Speaker 3: the budget on that $ 60 million through AI, assuming the
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  Speaker 3: county has a good bond rate. So we're assuming like
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  Speaker 3: a 4% to 5% interest rate. Depending upon whether you
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  Speaker 3: do a 20-year or 30-year term, you're looking at a
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  Speaker 3: low of $ 88 million all in after interest 2%. take
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  Speaker 3: a $ 60 million build at 20 years, 4% to 5%,
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  Speaker 3: your ballpark, $ 88 million. At 30 years, you're almost $ 120 million.
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  Speaker 6: Borrowing 60. Your interest a year is going to be
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  Speaker 6: borrowing 60, right? You're going, your figure's off of borrowing 60, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, Gino.
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  Speaker 6: We're not borrowing $ 60 million, Rich.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know how much?
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  Speaker 6: It's not $ 60 million. How much is it? I think
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  Speaker 6: it's more closer to, I think, 40, maybe 45. All right,
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  Speaker 6: so we cut a third off.
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  Speaker 3: We take... a third off of that. It's still a
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  Speaker 3: lot of, I mean, instead of $ 88 million, a third
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  Speaker 3: of that, you're probably around $ 60 million on a $ 40
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  Speaker 3: million build. Okay.
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  Speaker 6: Do you think we're doing the financing and everything on
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  Speaker 6: a whim? Do you think we just said, well, here,
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  Speaker 6: we'll just borrow the money?
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm sure. I don't think there's been a lot
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  Speaker 3: of you do it on a whim, number one. Ralph
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  Speaker 3: is smart enough not to let you just wing it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, all right. But let's just.
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  Speaker 6: We've done a lot of due diligence on the financing
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  Speaker 6: and The county has a financial advisor and a company
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  Speaker 6: that actually manages a lot of that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Let me just interject for just one second before we
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  Speaker 2: get into it. We can tear all of this apart
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  Speaker 2: piece by piece. But I want Gino to finish his
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  Speaker 2: thought process on, okay, he toured the Southside Hospital and
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  Speaker 2: a disaster. He was explaining why... they wanted to make
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  Speaker 2: a move to some other building. And you said Eastern
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  Speaker 2: Gateway became available. I want you to pick up the
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  Speaker 2: story from that point in time as to what your
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  Speaker 2: thoughts were when you toured Eastern Gateway or why you
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  Speaker 2: selected that site.
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  Speaker 6: Well, before we selected Eastern Gateway, there was a process
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  Speaker 6: to doing that. There was also an assessment done of
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  Speaker 6: all the departments under the commissioners, under the county, the
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  Speaker 6: space they needed, what we would need. for them to
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  Speaker 6: function and provide for the residents. How much space they
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  Speaker 6: needed actually and where they were at now. And everything
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  Speaker 6: pointed to we will save money in the long term.
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  Speaker 6: We will have a place for at least 50, 60
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  Speaker 6: years that we won't have to have all the issues
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  Speaker 6: with having departments scattered throughout the county. And like I said,
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  Speaker 6: this hasn't been done on a whim. And, Rich, I
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  Speaker 6: told you that there's been a lot of due diligence
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  Speaker 6: with this. And honest to God, Ron, I didn't call
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  Speaker 6: to argue with anybody today.
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  Speaker 2: No, we're not going to argue. We're just going to
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  Speaker 2: try to– we're just trying to listen.
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  Speaker 6: These are the facts.
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  Speaker 3: These are the facts of how this happened. But there's
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  Speaker 3: something happening. Where can I look at the due diligence
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  Speaker 3: that was done? Are there reports? Are there archives? There
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  Speaker 3: should be a record of this somewhere that I can
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  Speaker 3: peruse through.
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  Speaker 6: Rich, everything we have done has been in public. Every
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  Speaker 6: decision we've made, every dollar that we've already put into
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  Speaker 6: this has been on the agenda.
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  Speaker 3: The decisions are made in public, but where are the
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  Speaker 3: studies that you did as far as moving that show
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  Speaker 3: the cost or the benefit?
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  Speaker 6: We have those. We have those.
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  Speaker 3: So I can do a public records request and get
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  Speaker 3: those to read, then?
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  Speaker 6: They came in packets, I'm sure. I'm sure you could
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  Speaker 6: ask for the facility studies and whatever else. I don't
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  Speaker 6: know why you wouldn't be able to see those. I'm
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  Speaker 6: not ashamed of them.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so basically, go ahead, Rich.
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  Speaker 6: The big one, you can go to the auditor's website,
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  Speaker 6: and it's probably six years old. You could probably add
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  Speaker 6: $ 10 million to that.
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  Speaker 3: The first question I have is, number one, why does
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  Speaker 3: it have to stay in the city? I would like
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  Speaker 3: somebody to explain to me why all these have to
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  Speaker 3: stay in the city itself.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not interested in reinventing the wheel. If you look
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  Speaker 6: at Columbus, Franklin County, everything is in downtown Columbus. And
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  Speaker 6: I think the reason is because if somebody has to
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  Speaker 6: come for services to a county government, they don't have
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  Speaker 6: to go to 17 different locations. It's the way things
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  Speaker 6: are done all over the state, likely all over the country.
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  Speaker 6: Likely all over the country.
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  Speaker 3: In Columbus, I get it. Columbus is the center of
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  Speaker 3: Franklin County. So it makes sense to have it in
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  Speaker 3: downtown Columbus. I get that. The city of Youngstown, geographically,
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  Speaker 3: is about as far away from a good chunk of
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  Speaker 3: your population, Mahoning County, as it can possibly be and
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  Speaker 3: still be in Mahoning County. You're way closer to Liberty, Hubbard,
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  Speaker 3: than Langdon is. Well, what I'm saying is if you look...
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  Speaker 3: When Mahoney County was formed, Gino, do you know what
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  Speaker 3: the original county seat was? It was Canfield. Yeah, Canfield.
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  Speaker 3: Because Canfield was in the center of the county. And
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  Speaker 3: the records were stolen from the population center.
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  Speaker 2: No, wait. One at a time.
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  Speaker 6: The records were stolen, actually, from Canfield and brought to Youngstown.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I understood.
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  Speaker 6: The records were stolen from somewhere, a courthouse in Canfield,
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  Speaker 6: and brought to Youngstown. So that's why Youngstown.
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  Speaker 3: Became the county seat. For whatever reason, 150 years ago
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  Speaker 3: or whatever it was, they decided to make Youngstown the
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  Speaker 3: county seat. Now, I get that that's why Youngstown basically
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  Speaker 3: controlled everything in the county, but it doesn't anymore. It's
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  Speaker 3: a shell of what it was earlier. When I was
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  Speaker 3: growing up, Youngstown was a big city. It's a shell.
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  Speaker 3: It's not much bigger than Boardman and Austintown are right now,
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  Speaker 3: population-wise and economically. But there again, we're not doing this
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  Speaker 3: to reinvent the wheel. the county, the city of Youngstown
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  Speaker 3: is the county seat, and we want to keep the
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  Speaker 3: county offices close to the county seat in the downtown area.
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  Speaker 5: That was the decision.
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  Speaker 6: Like I said, you could argue it, but that was
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  Speaker 6: our decision to do that. And I don't know what
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  Speaker 6: else to tell you. You know, I mean, you could.
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  Speaker 3: Disagree with it. Here's the problem I have with that.
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  Speaker 3: To take a page out of Mayor McKelvey's book, you
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  Speaker 3: should be viewing me and the rest of the citizens
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  Speaker 3: of Mahoning County as your customers. So you're saying because
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  Speaker 3: this is the way we've always done it, but you're
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  Speaker 3: saying because this is the way we've always done it,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to continue to keep it in Youngstown, even
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  Speaker 3: though geographically and physically that is as far away from
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  Speaker 3: most of your customers that don't live in the city
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  Speaker 3: of Youngstown as you can possibly get and still be
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  Speaker 3: in the city of Youngstown. It makes no sense. I
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  Speaker 3: understand you want to stay there because it's the county seat,
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  Speaker 3: but in today's world with all the technology we have
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  Speaker 3: and team meetings and all the things you can do online,
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  Speaker 3: there's no reason to physically and geographically give everything to
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  Speaker 3: the city of Youngstown.
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  Speaker 2: Let me follow up on that.
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  Speaker 3: As a rural resident, I find it annoying that I
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  Speaker 3: have to drive all the way into the city of
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  Speaker 3: Youngstown every time I want to do anything.
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  Speaker 2: Stand by, guys.
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  Speaker 3: It should be a lot more convenient for your customers.
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  Speaker 2: All right, stand by. Hang on. It's a discussion that
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  Speaker 2: we're having today, and it's an interesting one with Gino DiFabio, commissioner,
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  Speaker 2: and Rich, the pharmacist.
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  Speaker 6: Back in a minute.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, this is Ron Verb.
• 17:01
  Speaker 8: WKBN.
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  Speaker 2: All right, and so we're going to have a respectful
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: discussion and not interrupt each other when one person is talking.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: So let me rephrase the question because we're here to
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: get an understanding. From a perspective of just a citizen
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: or a customer, as George McKelvey would say, it can
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: be very inconvenient for older people, and we are an
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: older community, or people in general to go to downtown
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: Youngstown to park, to walk, to get into the facility.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Was there any consideration given to that as opposed to
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: going somewhere else where it's a lot easier to do that, Gino?
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  Speaker 6: Ron, we looked at a lot of places. I don't
• 17:41
  Speaker 6: know what place would be, I mean, easy. We're talking
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: about a parking deck that's going to bring you down
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: to the first floor, a short walk into the building,
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: and that'll be, you know, I mean, it's not like
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: the hospital.
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  Speaker 3: What places outside of the city did you look at, Gino?
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: What places outside of the city of Youngstown, or was
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: that just never considered?
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: No, it wasn't that it was never considered, but our
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: focus was... Where do you look outside of Youngstown? Well,
• 18:11
  Speaker 6: they bought the Patriot building, but that wasn't going to work. Rich,
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: we needed a building to house about 350 people with
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: parking for over 300 cars. It was easily accessible. There's
• 18:26
  Speaker 6: not a lot. There's not a lot.
• 18:28
  Speaker 7: We had offers.
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: We had offers. I'm not even going to talk about
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: that offer. But I heard you suggested the other day
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: we should have bought the mall. We could have got
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: it cheap, but we had that whole thing. That mall
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: was built in 1970. I don't want to care for
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: that mall that's already 50, 60 years old or whatever
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: it is. I don't want to put a.
• 18:47
  Speaker 7: Roof on it.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: Well, I was discussing that with Jason... I was discussing
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: with Jason Lurie, who is Boardman's township administrator now that
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: he's retired, is intimately familiar with that property. He said
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: all the HVAC systems were replaced, and the roof is
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: brand new. The only thing that really needs updated there is,
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: like you said yesterday, is the parking lot. But that
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: building sold in December of 2024. The new one made
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: $ 24. 1 million. The Vindicator said $ 24. 1 million. I looked it
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: up this morning.
• 19:19
  Speaker 6: I thought that's what he was asking for.
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: So versus $ 60 million, you would still be saving, even if,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: let's say you put $ 6 million into a new parking lot,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: you get it for $ 30 million. That's half, half of
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: the $ 60 million.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: And then you have dollars.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, Gino. Don't let Gino talk. Let Gino respond
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: to your comments.
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: Then you have a huge building. Do you know what
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: the cost of remodeling the inside of the building would be?
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: Patriot was like $ 2 million, 45,000 square feet, one building.
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: was about $ 2 million to build it out. Could you
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: imagine what trying to build out the mall would cost? See, Rich,
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: honest to God, I appreciate you. I appreciate the work
• 19:59
  Speaker 6: you put in. But unless you... Everybody's the same way. Ron,
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: one second. I got to tell you, I heard my friend,
• 20:07
  Speaker 6: my very good friend, the boss lady the other day,
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: talking about the house they redid on Philadelphia and how
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: rotten and how horrible it was.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: If you don't have a clue of where the money
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: comes from, why people get it, it sounds horrible. I
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: would say tear it down if I didn't know, if
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: I didn't know. And I tried to help her a
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: lot last night, and I think I did. There's so
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: many things that people don't know everything about it. They
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: see one thing, and they zero in on that.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: No, let Geno finish talking.
• 20:41
  Speaker 7: Go ahead.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: No, I want Geno to finish his thought before. I
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: don't want interruptions. Go ahead, Geno.
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: Ron, there's so much in government, and there's so much
• 20:50
  Speaker 6: to be considered, because I can get mad at something,
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: but in the grand scheme of things, I might just
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: be pissed off for another reason, and I'm going to
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: harp on that and get mad on that and be
• 21:00
  Speaker 6: mad about that. Well, I might not know what I'm
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: talking about. And if the truth be told at the
• 21:06
  Speaker 6: end of the day, a truthful man or woman would say,
• 21:09
  Speaker 6: you know what, you're right. That was wrong.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: I shouldn't have said that. You know, that doesn't make
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: any sense.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Well, I did say that.
• 21:15
  Speaker 6: Buy the Southern Park Mall and remodel the inside of
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: the mall for county offices in the size of the
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: mall and everything out there. Doesn't make any sense. If
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: Rich thinks about it, I think.
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  Speaker 3: He would agree. I would disagree. I vehemently disagree because,
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: number one, most of it doesn't need remodeled, number one.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Number two, you would still have tenants paying you rent
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: every month to.
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  Speaker 6: Help subsidize that. I don't believe the county could rent
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: out to private things like that. But you could check
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: into that. But I don't believe we could be a
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: landlord for anything other than county office.
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: Or we could text Fisher to modify the legislation so
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: you could. Yes. Like they fixed the library problem. He's
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: a pretty effective legislator.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: All right. Stand by, guys. Stand by. Just stand by.
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  Speaker 2: I've got to pause here. Stand by with Rich, the pharmacist,
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: and Gino, the county commissioner, when we come back after this.
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• 23:28
  Speaker 2: All right, so with Commissioner Geno and Rich, the pharmacist,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: before I go back to all of this, just to
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: get an understanding, and I think we are getting an understanding, folks.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: That's the point of a discussion, and I'm learning things
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: as well as the rest of you. So I actually
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: understand the argument that you're making, Geno, to say Youngstown,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: whether we like it or not or agree or not,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: is a county seat, and that's why you want it.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: The county wants the offices to be gathered in the
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: county seat.
• 23:57
  Speaker 7: On stock shelf.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Right, and just like they are in other areas. I actually, okay,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I understand that. And you're saying, and correct me if
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I'm wrong in anything, you're saying to what Rich is
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: saying about, well, why didn't we buy the mall and
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: move into the mall? First of all, I don't know
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: if the guy wants to sell the mall. I'll just
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: start with that. But secondly, your answer would be, I
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: don't want to buy another old building that I'm going
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: to have to throw a bunch of money into the
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: facility that's loaded with asbestos and what have you and
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: remodel it inside to make it for government offices and
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: each of them to have their own heating and cooling
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: thermostats and what have you. And it's too big for
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: what our needs are. Is that fairly accurate? I mean,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: That is accurate. And as far as taking an older
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: building and rehabbing it and stuff, I mean, with everything else,
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: with the mechanicals. There's also, it has to be ADA compliant.
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: You talked about older people coming down to the county.
• 24:59
  Speaker 6: It has to be ADA compliant. The new building is
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: going to have all of that. I talk to the
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: architects because I talk to them a lot because a
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: lot of this is on me because I'm the one
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: out speaking about it, and I want to make sure
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: that people understand everything. I forget the exact number of
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: feet of cable and wiring that are going to go
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: into that building. With all the new technology, it's literally
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: miles and miles of wiring. Now, you've got to do
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: that in an old building, I would say, is a
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: lot more expensive and a lot more costly and probably
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: unsightly to do that, trying to retrofit an old building
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: with the new technology we're going to need in 10 years,
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: 20 years.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, let me just.
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: We're going to have that.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: We're going to have.
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: All right, let me ask you a question. If I
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: go back to the Southside Hospital.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Is there a possibility or discussion saying, okay, we could
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: take $ 20 million or $ 10 million or whatever the cost
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: might be to make improvements to Southside Hospital so that
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: we could stay in that facility? In other words, we
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: bought it for next to nothing and we put money
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: in it over the years. If we put $ 10 million
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: in it or $ 15 million in it, not $ 60 million,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: could we make that building a better facility where we
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: could stay in that facility?
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  Speaker 4: No.
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: I will take you, because now I have access to
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: every floor of that building. Ron, I'll take you down there,
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: and I'll show you what nobody sees down there. And
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: you tell me how much money would you want to
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: put into that building? The building is 100 and some
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: years old. It was pieced together. We're going to try
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: to repurpose it in some way. I think the state
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: just come out with new regulations or rules on their
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: Brownfield grants. where municipalities and counties can now apply for
• 26:47
  Speaker 6: them for for uh... taking down all government buildings there.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: I think i don't know what we look at what
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: they're all going to be good because Trumbull ended up
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: wrecking the old St. Joe's.
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: There's money out there to wreck it. I think that
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: was federal money. I think that was.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, but I just want to finish my thoughts. I'll
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: get right back to you. So basically, it would be
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: throwing good money after bad to do anything in Southside. Now,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: I have heard on a personal level to both of
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: you from somebody in the know, people in the know,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: that inside these walls, these concrete walls, there's cast iron
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: plumbing everywhere. And to be blunt, it's just a bitch
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: to deal with the leaks and to get to the
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: pipes and find the leaks. Is that accurate, Gina?
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: It's also true because it is an older building. If
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: there's a leak and that pipe is wrapped, there's no
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: free-floating asbestos in the building. But if they have to
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: open a wall, the cost just to have it protected
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: before they can work on the pipe is astronomical. And
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: you're not going to tear every.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Wall out in.
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: and mitigate anything that might be in those walls. It
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: just doesn't make sense.
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: So I just want to get the thought process because
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: it's important to understand why Southside Hospital should go. And basically,
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: you're heating and cooling a lot of the building, which
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: you don't need and you don't use. You have no choice,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: but you have to do it. and there's a lot
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: of deterioration. So fixing it up isn't an option. So
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: then you go to segment two, which is, okay, we're
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: going to find another place. Obviously, I would agree with you,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: the Patriot building would be for some government offices, but
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: not all government offices, to say the least. It's not
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: that big.
• 28:30
  Speaker 6: You couldn't have put JFS in there and the Board
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: of Elections. You couldn't have put child support, JFS, and
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: something else in there. It just didn't fit.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: It's a beautiful building. I believe that they're using it
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: now as Summit Academy, I believe.
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Right, it's a relatively new building. And it needs a roof. Right,
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: but that is, but I'm just, I guess it's an
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: irrelevant point because it doesn't exist. But, I mean, anything
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: that you own is going to need some routine maintenance.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, the building you're building is going
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: to need a roof. The Patriot building, to replace the roof,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Or to replace the air conditioning. Well, those units would
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: last as long as they would in a new building
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: because you're putting in new equipment. So these are not
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: these are it's not a dilapidated building. It's some minor repairs,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: but it doesn't matter. It didn't fit the needs and
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: it wasn't wasn't the right building.
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: It wasn't a this or that because it didn't match up.
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: It wasn't a this or that as far as a
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: new building or Patriot.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: All right. Now, yes. So when you're looking downtown, you
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: guys decide that the Eastern District, is the right fit
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: to the port authorities telling you, this is what, this
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: is what to do, rip down the parking garage and
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: you're going to rip down Eastern gateway and build a
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: new building. Correct.
• 29:52
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: Well, here, here's the thing also that that is, I
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: think it's almost two acre site.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: In the city across the street from and i've said
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: it a hundred times from lake the river eastgate uh...
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: the chambers in there all all the economic uh... development
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: all the economic drivers of our community i mean over
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: the poor forty put together the claim kimberly clark deal
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: anybody who would come to the port authority asking for
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: help or grants or whatever or lake the river and
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: later rivers doing a great job they did that they've
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: got property identified everywhere They have leads. If a company
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: calls in, they say, I have this property here. You
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: can build here. Everybody comes to that building. So do
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: you want out-of-town developers and everybody else coming to Mahoney
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: County to talk about Mahoney County and look across the street?
• 30:45
  Speaker 6: And this is just one of the little caveats. They
• 30:49
  Speaker 6: would see a dilapidated parking deck that's closed because it's condemned.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: Now they're going to look across the street, and every
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: one of those agencies could say, let me take you
• 30:58
  Speaker 6: over and talk to our county commissioners. Or I'll take
• 31:01
  Speaker 6: you right over to our building department. Or I'll take
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: you over to our planning department. They can help you
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: with that.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: And just to interrupt you for just a second, and
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: get to Rich, I'm not opposed to county offices. That
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: was the whole goal in Southside initially was to put
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: everything under one roof. For the convenience of people coming
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: to do business with the county, they didn't have to
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: go to a million different places. With that being said,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: will parking be free for the citizens of the county?
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: You say there's going to be a parking garage. I mean,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: if senior citizens or a citizen of the county, are
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: they going to have to pay to get into the
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: parking garage? Are they going to be able to find,
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: will there be plenty of parking spaces that aren't taken
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: by just employees or other people down there? I mean,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: what I'm asking you is, is there going to be
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: convenience for the customers that need to come and go
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: down there and not paying for this parking?
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: It'll be convenient. Will it be free? That's still discussed
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: on how that works out. I found out, Ron, you know,
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: when you build a parking deck, every space, say you
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: want to build a 100-space parking deck. It cost about
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: $ 30, 000 in construction for one space. And what happened was,
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: if you have a parking deck and you don't charge
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: anything for it, there's no money to fix it and
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: upkeep it.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: You know what I mean?
• 32:21
  Speaker 13: Yes.
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: That's not good either.
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: So there may be a nominal charge for parking. That's
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: still being discussed. That's still up in the air. I'm
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: not going to lie to you.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: No, no, I understand. In other words... Hey, our parking
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: lot across the.
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: Street from our building gets $ 7. 00.
• 32:35
  Speaker 14: Right.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: In other words, you'd have to pay, and that would
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: go into a separate fund to maintain the facility.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: Okay. So this is why in the $ 60 million price tag,
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: that counts ripping down the parking deck and ripping down
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Eastern Gateway and constructing a new building. That's the total cost.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: And a new parking deck.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: That's the total.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: That's the whole deal.
• 33:00
  Speaker 15: The whole.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Is $ 60 million for everything.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: And it won't be $ 80 million. There won't be cost overruns.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: There won't be.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: There won't be. We're going to go as we go along.
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: And I think October 28th is a public meeting. There's
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: going to be a website set up where everything is
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: going to be explained on a daily basis. And I
• 33:24
  Speaker 6: said the one thing, and I said it very firmly.
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: I told the Port Authority and the architect and everybody else,
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: we're not going to do the downtown what the last
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: previous administration did to downtown and rip up streets and
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: not tell anybody where we were going next and have
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: a mess. There's going to be designated truck routes when
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: they tear it down and when they come in. They're
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: going to stage the stuff. We already have staging areas
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: for the building materials. It's got to be a good
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: run because a lot of this is on me. So
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: I don't want to look like an idiot. Right.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Well, I would say a lot of it is on you.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: But with that being the thing you're saying, it's going
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: to be a $ 60 million cost and a brand new
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: building and parking deck, and it will be regularly maintained. Because,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to hear, like, I'm kind
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: of hearing, well, in the Patriot building, we have to
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: put on a new roof. Well, I can assure you
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: in 20 years, we're not going to rip down the
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: new building because we've got to put on a new
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: roof again. or we've got to put on air conditioning.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: These are routine things you've got to do in your home,
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: let alone a building. Now, my other question is just
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: one other thing. Any of the county offices that are
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: not in downtown Youngstown, will they have to consolidate into
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: this one building so everything will be there, the building departments,
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: the health departments? Will they be leaving?
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: No. Go ahead.
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: That was another misnomer on your program. Somebody said it
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: a few times. The health department owns their building on Westchester.
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: They own that building. They won't be moving. But our
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: planning department and our building department is in that building,
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: and they likely will be coming to the new building.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: So the best of your ability is as much of
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: the county offices won't be renting anything anywhere. You mentioned
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: they own that one. And if they do, they will
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: be coming into the building downtown. Is that accurate?
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: Well, there's one department I know of that is in
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: the Westchester building now. One of the Westchester buildings is
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: our Letta Bateman program.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: But we own that building, you said, right?
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: We don't own that building. The Board of Health owns
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: the Board of Health building. This is This is in
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: a little Westchester complex with a senior center and.
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: All that is.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: Those buildings there.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:48
  Speaker 6: They have that. They built that out, I believe, with
• 35:51
  Speaker 6: their grant. And their rent is very– it's.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: A good deal for them.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: So they'll stay there.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: They'll likely stay there, yes.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: And we don't have– really, Ron, if anybody else– I mean,
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: I love this stuff. I love seeing the planning, what
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: goes into it, the moving around of little blocks and
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: seeing from the, they call it schematic design when they
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: first start. It's really, you fit everything where you could
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: fit it. And did you know when they build a
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: building on half of the square footage is hallways and mechanical? Half,
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: literally half the size.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: That makes sense.
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: Like the building's going to be approximately, well, I didn't say,
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: I said there's no way. But if the building is
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: 80,000 square feet, you need 40,000 square feet for hallways
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: and mechanicals. Literally half the building.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: All right. With that being known, and I go back
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: to you, Rich, wasn't there a time that you thought, Rich,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: they should just bouncing things off of you just to
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: clear up so many things that have been said? Weren't
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: you talking, Rich, about the IBM building or something at
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: one time? Forget the mall.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: The IBM building is right across from Eastern Gate, right
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: down the street from where the Port Authority and all
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: that is across from Eastern Gate, where it was for sale.
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: I think I read somebody just bought it.
• 37:11
  Speaker 16: But it was literally right there, a fairly modern building. Yep,
• 37:15
  Speaker 16: they're going to put the... Somebody went in there. It
• 37:18
  Speaker 16: would have probably been a really good place to put
• 37:20
  Speaker 16: children's services.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know. How many square feet do we need, Gina?
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: Because I just did a Google search this morning of
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: commercial property available in downtown Youngstown. And 6 West Federal Street,
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: which is a building directly across from the Doubletree Hotel,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: is for sale for $ 2.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: 2 million.
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: It's got 154,000 square feet. Looks, taking a look on
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: the website, I can't remember what realty company has it,
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: but looks to be in really good shape. Plus, it's historic,
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: so you could probably get a lot of federal credits.
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: I know that's what they're trying to do with the old,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: I believe, Farmore building. They had all those federal credits
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: lined up, and then nobody wanted to develop it.
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: We'll talk about that another day. I got some stuff
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: on that.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Well, you wouldn't believe it. You would not believe it.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: This building is $ 2. 2 million. You can get the whole
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: building for less than the cost of demolition of Eastern Gateway.
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: And what I find interesting is I was on the
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Eastgate development thing. I'm on their Citizens Advisory Committee, and
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: they have a general policy board meeting. You may have
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: been there because Anthony Trevina from the Port Authority was
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: actually addressing some different things, and he talked about Eastern Gateway. Okay.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: And he made the statement, and I'm sure it's on
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: their website, so you can probably go back and watch
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: the meeting, that he didn't realize how much money Eastern
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Gateway was costing the Port Authority until after they bought it.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: So call me a skeptic, but I think it's really
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: ironic that they buy Eastern Gateway, find out it's a
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: financial boondoggle, and then all of a sudden they want
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: to dump it on you and take the Patriot building back.
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: That's me.
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: It's all in the way you say things. Number one,
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: they didn't dump it on us. Number two, I believe
• 39:10
  Speaker 6: I was at that meeting. They had them. All four
• 39:13
  Speaker 6: of the agencies were there. Lake River was there.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Were you there? I didn't see you there. Well, I
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: was there because I remember him talking about it.
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, you know he was laughing when he said that.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, he did say that. I wouldn't laugh because
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: it was a substantial amount of money. What was it, $ 20?
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: $ 20, 000 or $ 30, 000 a month it was costing him to
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: maintain his gateway?
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: I think he said it was like $ 18, 000 a year
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: for the electric and whatever else.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: I think that's what he said. He was laughing, but
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: he wanted it off his books. As chairman of the
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Port Authority, he wants it off his books. And the
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: three of you were glad to take it off his
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: hands and spend over $ 3 million just to wreck it.
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: You could buy a brand-new office building in downtown Youngstown
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: that's in pretty decent shape for $ 2. 2 million.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: Brand-new.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: Now, I understand you want a new one. I understand.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: But somebody's going to buy this building and remodel it.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Again, 154,000 feet.
• 40:10
  Speaker 6: Is this a historic building?
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: Then you can't, I don't think you can make that
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: ADA compliant. I don't think you could tear out walls
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: to make it ADA compliant.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: It has an elevator.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: It has an elevator. There's more.
• 40:23
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• 40:36
  Speaker 2: All right, so we're back with Gino, the commissioner, and Rich. Okay, Rich,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: go ahead and make your point, please.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: Well, I understand they want a new building, but we're
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: still not going to have all of county services under
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: one roof.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: But most of them.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: I mean, you just stipulated you're going to have the
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: health department out at Westchester. You're still going to have
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: the regional courts out where they are. There are some
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: things that you're going to put in there that probably
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: should not be in there. The title agency should not
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: be there. The title agency, it should either be in
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: Boardman where all the auto dealers are or Austintown where
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: it's easier.
• 41:10
  Speaker 7: Well, who said.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: Board of Elections just bought a brand new building, correct?
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: They were not a brand new. They bought an old school.
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: So they're not going to be in there.
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: No, they're not.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: So we've established already... We've already established that all of
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: the county agencies are not going to be under one roof.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Because Board of Elections just made that decision. And these other...
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: So I don't understand why we have to... I still
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: don't understand why all of them have to be forced
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: downtown into this $ 60 million Taj Mahal you're building.
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: If you come in there and think if you see
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: a Taj Mahal, I can't wait until it's done because
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: you can see the Taj Mahal it is.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: People are going to.
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: Be going from hospital rooms to workstations.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: I certainly hope it's a nice building. There's nothing wrong
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: with that.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: My mother-in-law's house is in Trumbull County, and she's sick,
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: so I have to pay her taxes and take care
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: of that for her. So I go up to the
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: municipal building in Trumbull County. It's an old office building,
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: nothing to look at, nothing fancy, but you've got the auditor,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: the treasurer, the recorder, all right there. I think it's
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: the second or third floor of the building. You can
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: literally go across the hall. But it's not a $ 60
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: million building, Gina.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: $ 60 million.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: Do you know what that works out to? That's $ 266
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: per resident of Mahoney County. Every man, woman, and child
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: is on the hook for $ 266. Now, granted, you're going
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: to amortize that over 20 or 30 years on the bonds.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: By the way, I mean, is the funding set up?
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Do we know what our interest rate on the bonds are?
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: We're working through that now, yes. I don't know if
• 42:49
  Speaker 6: they're as high as they've been in 25 years now.
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: I understand that, and we have very good advisors, and
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: I understand I have to go to New York and
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: we have to make our case, but it's pretty well set.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: The problem you're running into is the financial assumptions I
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: assume that you made a year ago are no longer
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: in effect. And just since February, since this Iran war started,
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: the interest rates have gone up substantially. I don't know
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: what they base bonds off of, 10-year treasury, 20-year. But
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: your interest rate is going to be much higher than
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: what you guys anticipated.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: All right, stand by, Rich. Stand by. Gino, stand by.
• 43:30
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• 43:33
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  Speaker 1: Now, Ron Verb on NewsRadio 570 WKBN.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: Let me get back to it. NewsRadio 570 WKBN with
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  Speaker 2: Gino the Commissioner and Rich. Okay, Rich, go ahead and
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  Speaker 2: make your point and then let Gino respond.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: The biggest problem I think I have with all this
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: is when I moved out here to Southridge, My wife
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: and I went, took a mortgage out at the bank,
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: and they said, you know, I forget what we asked for,
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: but let's say we asked for X. And I remember
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: the mortgage officer saying, oh, you can get way more
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: money than that. You know, based on your income and
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: stuff like that, you can afford Y. So if you
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: want to build more of a house and a fancier
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: and add all this other, you know, by all means,
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: we can loan you a lot more than what you're
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: asking for. Just because you have the money. doesn't mean
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: you should blow it. Because I was smart enough at
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: the time thinking, no, I want to build a house,
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: but I'm still going to have to put furniture in it.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: I'm going to have to pay for my kids' lessons,
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: all this other stuff. I've got other things I need
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: to do. We're going to take $ 60 million and put
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: it on the county credit card. Now, that may not
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: max out the county credit card, but it's not going
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: to leave a whole lot of room if something down
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: the line comes along. Because you've only got so much
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: money that you can borrow and still keep your credit rating.
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: And I think it was Ditzler said it's 60 million.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: I think he said this one time, 60 million, you're
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: close to maxing out the County credit card or bond rating.
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: You know, you go to New York when he goes
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: to New York, he goes and asks for one 20,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: they're going to laugh at him. So why are we
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: throwing all of our money into one Taj Mahal building project?
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: That's weird that I'm sorry. I don't see the need
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: to do it the way that they're doing it. And
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: they're in. And furthermore, At what point in time was
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: there ever a citizens' committee put together to discuss this
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: with anybody? We have three people. I give Geno credit.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: Geno at least comes on here and defends himself. The
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: other two numb nuts, you don't hear boo from Anthony.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: You don't hear boo from Carol. They don't even have
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: the courtesy to come on and discuss things with the
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: public other than their meetings that they have that nobody attends.
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: Well, they heard verbs stronger than the average grizzly bear,
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: and they don't want to get beat up maybe.
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Ron. But, I mean, it's just, you know,
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: so kudos to you. You at least come on and
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: discuss it. But when we built a new school out
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: here in South Range in 2008, they had citizens committees
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: for all kinds of things going on with the school,
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: where to put it, what did, you know, how. big
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: it should be, should it be three, you know, should
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: it be an elementary, middle, high, all of that. We
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: had no citizens' input on this project at all. You
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: guys just decided we're going to spend $ 60 million, we're
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: going to put it on the county credit card, and
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: this is what we decided we want. And with very
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: little public input, It may surprise you, but if you
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: have public input, there's a lot of smart people in
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: the community that would show up that may have some
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: really good ideas that you would want to incorporate in
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: this new building, but you're never going to hear them
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: because you never asked for their input. I am adamantly
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: opposed to spending $ 60 million of our tax dollars, $ 266
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: for every man, woman, and child in Mahoning County on
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: a single building that still is not going to put
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: everything under one roof. And everything shouldn't be under one roof.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of things. Board of Elections, I'm ticked.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: They're still in the city of Youngstown. I mean, granted,
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: they got a decent school for a decent price, but
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: what are they going to do with all that? There's
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: probably room there. That was their board's decision.
• 50:27
  Speaker 6: What are they going to do with that whole building, Gino?
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: What are they going to do with that whole building?
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: They've got a giant building. There's no way the Board
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: of Elections is going to occupy anywhere near all of
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: that building. So if the three of you approach them
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: and say, hey, we think you're going to have some
• 50:40
  Speaker 3: extra space, maybe we could sublet it from you.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: And I'll let Gene respond to it. And this is
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: up to the Board of Elections, right? You don't have
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: a say-so on that?
• 50:50
  Speaker 6: We didn't have a say-so of where they go, but
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: we certainly have a say-so of what we pay for
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: as far as rent. The Port Authority is going to
• 50:56
  Speaker 6: own that building and build it out. The Board of
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: Elections has an amount of space they need in that building.
• 51:01
  Speaker 6: And it will be a county building that will be
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: owned by us at the end of the day. Just
• 51:06
  Speaker 6: like the veterans on Belmont Avenue, the Port Authority identified
• 51:11
  Speaker 6: that property, bought it, remodeled it through competitive bidding on
• 51:17
  Speaker 6: every project, every piece of that.
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: And then at the end of the day, they turned
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: it over.
• 51:21
  Speaker 6: That is now our building. That's what the Port Authority
• 51:24
  Speaker 6: can do that the county really can't do as well.
• 51:27
  Speaker 6: That's why the Port Authority is involved. With the Williamson building,
• 51:30
  Speaker 6: the Port Authority has the ability to buy a school
• 51:34
  Speaker 6: like that where we didn't. There would have been different avenues,
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: and there was, like, there was much discussion about that.
• 51:40
  Speaker 6: Much was gone through.
• 51:42
  Speaker 7: And it was.
• 51:44
  Speaker 6: It was in the community, everybody's best interest, that it
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: go through the Port Authority, and that's the way that
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: that went. That's why they did it. This project will
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: be under the Port Authority also. They received the bids. See,
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: Mahoney County has a long, long, long history of corrupt bidding,
• 52:05
  Speaker 6: of backroom deals, and everything else. We have nothing to
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: do with who they pick. whom they pick and the contractors.
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: We have oversight over how much money is going into
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: their project, but everything else will be done through the
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: Port Authority above board. There's going to be an informational
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: meeting on the 28th of October. I can give more
• 52:24
  Speaker 6: information on that, Ron, and give it to you for
• 52:27
  Speaker 6: the public. And if people come out and say they
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: like this or like that, but trust me, there are
• 52:34
  Speaker 6: architects building, designing the building. I mean, if somebody thinks
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: they'd like a... a fixture or some kind of thing
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: in it, that would be fine. But this building is
• 52:45
  Speaker 6: going to have everything that the county would need going
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: forward for as far as we could see for the
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: next 50, 60 years. Where to retrofit another older building,
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: even a historical building, and to make it ADA compliant
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: isn't just an elevator. That doesn't make it ADA compliant.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: Anything you do, you're going to retrofit. My whole point
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: is you're blowing $ 60 million. There are options that are
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: going to be less expensive. Especially a historic building where
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: you can get historical credits, federal and state. to help
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: with the remodeling cost, to help, you know, comply with
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: ADA and things like that. Question number two.
• 53:27
  Speaker 7: The courthouse is a historical building.
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: We have another question. Can I speak to that for
• 53:32
  Speaker 6: one second?
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely. It's a conversation.
• 53:34
  Speaker 6: The courthouse is a historical building. One of the office
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: holders wanted drapes in that building. You wouldn't believe what
• 53:41
  Speaker 6: it had to do, what you had to do to
• 53:44
  Speaker 6: hang drapes through the window panes or seals in that
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: building because it was a historical building. That's great. I mean,
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: historical buildings, I love them. But there's certain things you
• 53:55
  Speaker 6: could do and certain things you can't do to a
• 53:58
  Speaker 6: historical building. I'm not telling you that's the only reason.
• 54:02
  Speaker 6: But please, I just want you to have that information.
• 54:05
  Speaker 6: You just can't go to a historical building and widen
• 54:09
  Speaker 6: the doors to fit a wheelchair or tear out steps
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: and put a ramp. You just can't do that. And
• 54:15
  Speaker 6: new buildings, government buildings have to be ADA compliant. That
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: would probably cost more than the roof, the HVAC, and
• 54:21
  Speaker 6: the parking lot combined. Believe me. Try to convert it
• 54:24
  Speaker 6: to make it ADA compliant.
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: I highly doubt that. You could buy the building for
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: $ 2. 2 million. That gives you $ 58 million to renovate, and
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: you still haven't– to equal the same cost. You're not
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: going to– God, I wish it was that easy. Rich,
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: you have no idea. My life is so much easier
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: for everybody. Here's another question for you. Here's another question.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: If you remember when they purchased Oak Hill, one of
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: the main reasons they purchased Oak Hill was because the
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: morgue was there. and it was going to cost, I forget,
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: it was some astronomical amount of money back when they
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: purchased Oak Hill, if they didn't buy it to relocate
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: the morgue was some astronomical cost. Is the morgue going
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: to be in your new building, or are we going
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: to have to relocate the morgue and put it somewhere else?
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: So we're not just at $ 60 million now. What's it
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: cost to relocate the morgue?
• 55:09
  Speaker 6: I don't have those figures, but absolutely it's not going
• 55:11
  Speaker 6: to be there because everybody's.
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: Going to be at Oak Hill. So if we're getting
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: that Oak Hill, and you've got a one-size-fits-all building, but
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: it doesn't fit all because we can't move the more
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: into the new building.
• 55:22
  Speaker 7: Well, of course we can't.
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: I never said it was a one-size-fits-all. This was the
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: best option. This was the best plan for going forward.
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: And those discussions are still happening. The Board of Elections just,
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: how long did that go on? How long did Beatrice
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: come down? He even sang to us, Rich. He even
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: came up with words to Gilligan Violet and sang to us.
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: That was finally solved. It'll happen. You don't want me
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: to decode it. He's a Democrat. What can I tell you?
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: You know, I'll say it. You guys are moving out
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: of Oak Hill, and you haven't examined the cost. The
• 55:57
  Speaker 3: three of you haven't examined the cost of relocating the morgue?
• 55:59
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: That's going to be a substantial cost.
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: Well, it is.
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: We're in discussions. We'll put it that way.
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: And there's some things I can give you good answers for,
• 56:10
  Speaker 6: but I'm not going to speak out of turn because
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: I don't want it turned on me or I don't
• 56:14
  Speaker 6: want something I say to cause any consternation for anybody.
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: But everything's being looked at, Rich, everything. And title's not
• 56:23
  Speaker 6: going anywhere. We're already over 60 million there. No, we
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: said the project... No, I never said everything out of
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: Oak Hill was going to be $ 60 million. I said
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: the new project was going to be $ 60 million. The
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: Board of Elections is in there, but we're not including that.
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: It's not included in the $ 60 million. But, Rich, honest
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: to God, it's government. It's moving the county forward and
• 56:52
  Speaker 6: putting us in a better place.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: It is.
• 56:55
  Speaker 6: Believe me, it's going to put us in a better place.
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: And this wasn't on a whim. This wasn't decided in.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: A heartbeat.
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: Believe me, all things are being considered. An hour this afternoon,
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: I can't give you every answer to every question. I
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: want to give you as much information as I can
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: to the answers to your questions. And I'm willing to
• 57:18
  Speaker 6: do that. I'm absolutely willing to do that because I
• 57:21
  Speaker 6: think you're a smart guy and you have your opinion.
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: And just like everybody would have an opinion. But we
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: can't change the course of what we're doing because 10
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: people are opposed to it. There's 225,000 people that we
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: are responsible for providing services to, and I think there's
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: over 1,000 workers that we are responsible for making sure
• 57:45
  Speaker 6: they have a safe place to go to work and
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: a good place to serve the public. It's a big job, Rich.
• 57:51
  Speaker 6: You know, I heard you say the other day, I
• 57:53
  Speaker 6: did hear you say, I think it was yesterday, You
• 57:56
  Speaker 6: said all these politicians, they run because they want a
• 57:58
  Speaker 6: better job. Let me tell you, buddy, I.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: Worked at the same place.
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: Well, that's what you could say. But I will tell
• 58:04
  Speaker 6: you this. I worked at the same place for 31 years.
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: It was like a family to me. They were like
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: a family. And I left that. I left the best
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: job I ever had to do this job. Are you
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: making more now than you were, Gino?
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: No.
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: In the long run, no. Were you making more at
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: the county? No.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: No.
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: No, not much more. Maybe a little more rich. No,
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: maybe a little bit more money in my paycheck, but
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: I have a lot less money at the end of
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: the day.
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you that. I bet you're benefiting. You've got
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: countable benefits. I mean, nobody gets benefits. Like the government gets.
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: You made a comment earlier about Boss Lady and the
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: lead abatement that you guys are doing.
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: And you said people don't understand where the money comes from.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: I believe you just made that statement. The problem is
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: you guys don't understand. The money only comes from one place,
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: the taxpayer.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 58:56
  Speaker 6: But, no, okay, could I– Could I make my point?
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, Jim.
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: He said, here the commissioners go again. Here the commissioners
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: go again. That is a HUD grant. That is the
• 59:06
  Speaker 6: federal government sets the standards. The federal government provides the funding.
• 59:11
  Speaker 6: If we didn't get that funding, it would go to
• 59:14
  Speaker 6: another area. The reason why we qualify for that is
• 59:17
  Speaker 6: because of the need in this area. And there's very
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: strict stipulations on who gets that money. and how that
• 59:24
  Speaker 6: money is spent, and for what purpose that money is spent.
• 59:27
  Speaker 6: So to say that the commissioners blew another $ 36, 000 is
• 59:30
  Speaker 6: dead wrong.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: We didn't.
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Hang on a second. Let me chime in for just
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: a second. Just bear with me, everybody. Basically what you're saying,
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: and I agree with this, is I was saying to
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: her the other day, when she was talking about the
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: grant that we got in the township to redo the
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: historic log cabin, Which I would say to her and
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: basically what you're saying on this, if we don't take it,
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: the program doesn't go away. It just goes to some
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: other community. So we can debate whether it's a good
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: thing or bad thing to have grants. The reality is
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: they're here, and we might as well get our share
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: of it as opposed to letting it go somewhere else.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: That's why it's not a bad thing to have a
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: grant program. that fixes up a historic log cabin in
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: Austintown just like it's not a bad idea you're saying
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: to get this grant to fix up this lead abatement
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: because if you whether you like it or not let's
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: say you don't get it it just goes to someone
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: it goes to Cincinnati.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 6: Or somewhere Ron just today I signed a grant I
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: signed a the acceptance of a grant for our prosecutors
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 6: that if we didn't get that grant that would come
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: out of the general fund but we applied for it
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: the prosecutors did a great job they have a grant
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 6: writer And they got that grant, saving us the money.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: The money was there. If we didn't apply for that grant,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: that money would have had to come out of the
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 6: Justice Fund. Grants aren't a bad thing.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: They're not.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: I mean, the money is there.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: At what point.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: Do we start thinking about the $ 40 trillion in the
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: federal deficit? This has to end.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 7: We can't keep doing this.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Right, but that's not the... I get that, and I
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: agree with that. But that is not how the system
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: is working right now. So if they would have turned
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: the grant down, let's say, in Austintown for the log cabin,
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: it doesn't mean the federal government is going to go
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: out of debt. It means that money goes to some
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: other community, or this money would go to some other community.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Until that system is changed... I prefer the money to
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: come to the community in which we live. That's my
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: only argument. Change the system and then stop the grants.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: But as long as the grants are there, let's get them.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: And I will fight and I push our staff to
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 6: get every grant dollar we can get in this county.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 6: Because that's money that doesn't have to come out of
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 6: our general fund.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: We did lead abatement in one private residence, correct? How
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: does that benefit the people in this area?
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 6: Well, it benefits the family.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: What was it, $ 36, 000? What was it? On a $ 17, 000,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: the guy paid $ 17, 000 for the building, and you guys
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: are giving him $ 36, 000 to put into it. Can I
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: get on that program? How do I get grant money?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: If you have a child, Rich, I'll tell you what.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: If you have a child under six whose blood level,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: if you check your kid's blood level who lives in
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: that house and you prove he lives there, if it's
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: over a certain amount, you could certainly apply for the grant.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: Because you live in a home town. Move them to
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: a different house, Gino.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 6: Because you live in a, what?
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: Move them to a different house.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: Move them to a different house. I mean, it's the
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: city of Youngstown. There's plenty of housing.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 6: Oh, I would, I beg to differ with you. Because,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: and I'll tell you why. If, when that Phoenix house
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 6: blew up in Austintown, we had 86 people, families, whatever,
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 6: homeless immediately. There wasn't a house to rent for those people,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 6: and they get a HUD waiver.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 3: I think it's like.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: $ 800 and some dollars a month they get towards housing.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: There wasn't a house to rent. They ended up at
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 6: a hotel because there wasn't a house to rent. It's easy, Rich,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 6: honest to God. If you don't know inside, and it's
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: not hidden, but you have to look for it, There's
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 6: not a quantity of houses.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 3: Well, I'll just stay here.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: That's not how it is. And if you have a kid.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Why is it my responsibility to take care of these people?
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry. At some point, you have to put your
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 3: foot down and say, you know, you are responsible for you.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: I'm responsible for the residents of Mahoney County. I don't
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 6: run HUD's programs. I don't set their standards or their
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: parameters on their grants.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: Stand by, stand by, stand by.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: Stand by back in a minute after this. All right,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: back to it.
• 1:03:49
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• 1:03:50
  Speaker 14: All right.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: Let me see here. I've got to get things set
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: up here. There's Gino. There's Rich. I don't want to
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: talk about grants as far as the big picture is concerned.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: Let's stay focused on this. Any other points that you
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: want to bring up, Rich, with Gino?
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: Gino said he was talking about that lead abatement. I mean,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: the house was bought for $ 11, 000. They put $ 36, 000 into it.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: He's complaining about Southside Hospital. you know, costing them so
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: much money. You just put three times the money into
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: lead abatement that the House was worth. You would have
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: better taken a bulldozer and reckoned it.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: I'll let Geno speak on it. But that's a HUD
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: grant for a different program. It's apples and oranges. I
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: want to stay focused on the Eastern Gateway. I mean,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: that's what HUD has that program for. So that's a
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: federal program. It's a whole different ball of wax. So
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: outside of that, I want to go back to the gateway.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Any other issues you want to bring up with it, Rich?
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: And then I'll let Gino speak.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: I just still am not convinced that we should be
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: spending $ 60 million. When there was no citizen input on
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: where we're going with this. These three have decided we're
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: going to spend $ 60 million. They got talked into it by,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: I think, the Port Authority who wants to unload a
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: building that's costing them too much money. Because I think
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: it's funny. They were glad to get rid of Eastern Gateway. Oh, yeah, sure,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: we'll take the Patriot Building back. He's complaining the Patriot Building,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: what was it, $ 2 million? Let's say you put $ 3
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 3: million into it a year at five, and you could
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: have gotten the vast majority of the county stuff out
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: of there. Children's services, you could probably put children's services
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: in one.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, Gino, respond to that. He said that's not true.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't have fit.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 6: The vast majority wouldn't have fit.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 7: I told you if.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: Board of elections went in there. Maybe one other thing.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 6: It did not solve the majority of the problem. And
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: putting children's services out there would be, it would have been,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 6: the whole building would have been children's services.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: Let's buy the 6 West Federal for $ 2. 2 million. It's
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: an office building, which is mostly what children's services is
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: there for, to meet in offices, and stick the 300
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: jobs that are in there in that building. There's no way,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: and you're still not anywhere near, no matter how much
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 3: you put into that building, you're nowhere near $ 60 million, Gino.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: What would it cost to renovate that building, Rich? I
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: don't know. Is it turkey?
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 22: No.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: We're not going to look into it.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: How much?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: It's not going to cost $ 60 million, Gino. It's not
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: going to cost $ 60 million. This is what I don't get.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 6: It's not serving the purpose. Rich, that building is serving
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: your argument, not the purpose.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: It's okay, though. We can disagree.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: I disagree with people all the time.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 6: It's okay. I understand that.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: We're not going to agree on everything.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 6: We can't.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: When you ran, one of the things that you said
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: you would insist on is a performance audit. Has the
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: performance audit been done for anything in county government since
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: you got there?
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 6: No, not a performance audit because, number one, I need
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 6: two votes for that. And what we have done, what
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 6: we have audited, we have audited a lot of our
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 6: internal things. We now have a five-year and a ten-year
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 6: capital improvement plan because we own other buildings.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: The CSB building is ours. You ran as a Republican.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: You're on that board. Why aren't you there every meeting
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: pounding the gavel saying we need to do performance audits?
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 6: Because you ran on it. That was one of your
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 6: platforms you ran on. Right, and there's no heart for that.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 6: So I'm not going to– I'm going to– I wouldn't
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: say I'm going to pick my battles, but, Rich, there's
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 6: so much stuff you could do. There's only so much
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 6: stuff you could do. A lot of things are promised
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 6: in elections. And I did say I wanted a performance
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: audit of the county, of how we spend it. The
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 6: biggest performance audit you want to discount was what Ralph
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 6: did with Oak Hill, and you want to completely discount
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 6: that audit. No, I don't want to discount it. I
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 6: will stipulate to you, Oak Hill is a piece of garbage.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: It needs to go. I have no problem with us
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: getting out of Oak Hill at all in any way, shape,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: or form.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: All right, stand by, stand by, stand by. Back in
• 1:08:33
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• 1:08:37
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• 1:08:42
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• 1:09:14
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• 1:09:16
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• 1:09:20
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• 1:09:23
  Speaker 13: abused by Barton, but now they say four others have
• 1:09:25
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• 1:09:28
  Speaker 13: sexual battery.
• 1:09:30
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• 1:09:31
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• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: All right. NewsRadio 570 WKBN. I am going to wait
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: a second here. I've got to get this all set
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: up again. Let me do this. They do that. All right. Gino,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: I will ask you about a few other things just
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 2: in general that we'll do. Rich, are we okay with
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: the building? Any other points to make on that?
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: I'm not okay with it. You will never convince me
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: ever that they looked at alternatives that don't involve blowing
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: $ 60 million of our money. Because there are alternatives out there.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: First of all, I mean, they've signed on the dotted
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: line to bring citizens in at this point to moot point.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: because they've already decided to do what they're doing. But
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: there was zero citizen involvement in any of this. This
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 3: is the reason I keep pounding the table, saying we
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: need to go to a charter form of county government,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: because you have three people, two Democrats, one who's supposed
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: to be a Republican but doesn't act like it. Oh, oh.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: You don't. I mean, you're a nice guy, Gino. You're
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 3: a nice guy. Did you know you're in charge of
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: children's services, correct? But that's one of our departments. You
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: have oversight on children's services.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: Financially, correct? They have a board. They have a board.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: Everybody has a board. All these people have boards. What
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: do we need the three of you for? Because it
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: seems like the boards are running everything.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 7: Well, go ahead.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 3: What's your question? I mean, the children's services board, I
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: know somebody that was told to me directly by somebody
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: that works at children's services. They spent $ 3, 000 a day
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: on a client they serve, flying them out to Missouri
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: because nobody in Ohio would take care of this client.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 3: You talked to me about the guy, I think you
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: had to send him down to Cincinnati. I forget some
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: stupid amount of money you were blowing on that. And
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: that's nice. I understand we've got to take care of
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: the less fortunate. But do we have to provide them with,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: you know... services that are just ridiculous. I mean, how
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: do you justify if your children's service is spending $ 3, 000
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 3: a day on one person? I think for the six
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: months they were out there, it's like almost $ 600, 000. It's
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: probably half a percent of the entire county budget was
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 3: spent on one individual. You look at MRDD. I requested
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: a lot of MRDD's contracts. The amount of money these
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: people are making and the money that they are spending
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: on these people is ridiculous. I mean, I think all
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: of us agree that we need to take care of
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: the less fortunate in our society. But it doesn't mean
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: you have unlimited funds. You're paying people to sit home
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: and watch their autistic kids. I mean, I would love
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: to have gotten paid to watch my kids. Probably the
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: alternative to that would be putting someone in Utah to
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: take care of them for $ 3, 000 a day. And that
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: touches the nerve with me. Because to pay for someone
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 3: to care for someone or to give a waiver to
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: a parent to stay home and take care of their
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: child is better off. That's a lot of direction home.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: They come after direction home.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 6: I've heard recently. Direction home keeps people out of nursing
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 6: homes and where the cost would be astronomical. If they
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 6: could keep them in their home and provide the basic
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 6: services with this money from the senior levy, which I'll
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 6: tell you this, 4% of that goes to administration. Not you,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 6: but other people have said other figures. 4% of that
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 6: goes to administration. The rest goes to programs. If we
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: could keep people in their home, bring them food to
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: their house, provide somebody to help them care a couple
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 6: hours a day, isn't that cheaper than a nursing home, Rich?
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 6: Thankfully, thank God, nobody in my family has been put
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: in a nursing home, or I don't have any autistic
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 6: people or people that are... are horribly disabled that I
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 6: have to provide for.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: I've got somebody in my family right now, Gino, right
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: now that is in a nursing home. I've got somebody
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: right now. You know who's paying for it? We are.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: I'm tired of paying for the whole world. Wouldn't it
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: be cheaper to keep them in their home? Wouldn't it
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: be cheaper to keep them in their home? Putting your
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: foot down and saying no. You need to be more
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: like the guy up in Lake County who just comes
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: in and says, nope, nope, even if it passes. You
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 3: at least stood up for the taxpayer. I'm tired of
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 3: getting fleeced on all of this. It's fleeced.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 6: It's Taj Mahal. Those words, Rich, I hope that this
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 6: conversation would help with those words, but it's okay. I
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: understand we could disagree, and I told you I like
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 6: it when we're done. I do like it. I'm here
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 6: to explain what I can't explain. And if we don't agree,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 6: we don't agree. But as far as six, would you
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: say it was six West Federal Street or something? Is
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: there 300 parking spaces around that building?
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: It's funny that you go, because if you go to
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: the website, if you go to the website, it says
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: there's a parking deck a block away. It's exactly what
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: it says. That's one of the selling points they're using
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 3: on this building, a block away.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 6: Which parking deck is that? Because the only other parking
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 6: deck that I know of down in that area is
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 6: next to our building. And the parts of it you
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: can use and parts of it you can't because there's
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 6: parts of it that aren't stable.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 7: There's not a lot.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 6: Of parking down there.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you, there's no parking down there for 300 cars.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: Build a parking deck, Gino. Build a parking deck. Where?
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: Here's a novel idea. It's the city of Youngstown. You
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: guys got $ 45 million in Biden bucks.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: The city got $ 85 million in Biden bucks. That was
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: one I got there. And believe me, there's been discussions
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: about that money.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: What do we have to show for in this area?
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 3: So you figure between you and the city, $ 130, $ 40
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: million in Biden bucks. Name me one concrete thing we
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: need to show for it.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 6: $ 88 million to the school board.
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: $ 88 million to the school board.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 6: And, Rich, I'm following up on ARPA funds every day.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 6: But you can't know that, but it's okay. I understand that.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 6: But that money, that money, there's supposed to be accountability
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 6: for every dollar. And, Rich, I'm looking. Believe me, I'm looking.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 6: But you don't know that, but that's okay.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: All right. Let me end it there, Rich and Gino.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: I'll let you take calls from anybody that has any
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: questions for you outside of that.
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: Okay. All right, and then I'll let Gino go. All right, Rich,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: thank you. It was a productive discussion. If you've got
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: comments or questions for Gino, give us a call, 330-729-9977.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. When you were running for office,
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: is it different running for office than it is being
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: in office, and then once you're in office, understanding the
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: ramifications and the rules and the regulations that you have
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: to follow?
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: Ron, it is like, unbelievably. Do you know the truck
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 6: driver would have thought that I needed a comprehensive audit
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 6: to find everything, to see where money might be being spent?
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 6: As a commissioner, as a sitting commissioner, I have the
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 6: privilege of pulling up anything I want. We have two
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 6: people in our OMB department that run budgets and everything else,
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 6: and they do a great job. They have a handle
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 6: on everything. Plus, we get help from the auditors and
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 6: everybody else. But, yeah, it's absolutely different. I mean, I
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 6: could stand there and pound my fist and say what
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 6: I want to do and what I'm going to do.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 6: But getting inside, it's a completely different perspective on county government.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 6: Some of it I still don't like, and a lot
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: of it I've changed, and I'm going to change some more.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: Do you get.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: From a standpoint, one time when we had a discussion,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: we were talking and this goes back to prior to
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: the homestead exemption or the owner occupancy going, being approved.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: And you said to me on air, well, we got
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 2: to take care of these people and these people and
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: these people. And I guess my comment about that is,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: Who takes care of the taxpayer that's suffering from all
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: of this? I mean, you understand the burden of property taxes.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: MRDD is asking for a monumental levy that if it passes,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: it's going to put a huge burden on people in
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: Mahoning County. If you live in the city of Canfield,
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: they got a huge school levy and an MRDD levy.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: I mean, we will acknowledge it's hundreds of dollars additional
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: on top of what they're paying.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 6: And they're basing it on $ 100, 000, and I don't know
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 6: where you can buy a $ 100, 000 house in Canfield, Poland,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 6: or these other areas.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, I know Gino, the truck driver, would say,
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: this is out of control. No one's thinking about the
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: taxpayer and the citizen. What about Gino, the commissioner?
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 6: Gino, the commissioner, would say this, and I tell people this,
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 6: and I've argued with my friends over this, and I've
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 6: had discussions with others. It's far as the DD levy,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 6: we have the DD levy, the MRDD levy, the senior levy,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 6: and I forget what they're... I think there might be
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 6: one other one that come under us. Now, those levies
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 6: have passed historically, 60, 65, 40, 45, or whatever, and
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 6: So everybody says, well, just don't let them put it on.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: And my thing is, they say, well, we don't want
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 6: those levies. And I say, you know, it's not fair
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 6: that I'm telling a majority of people your vote doesn't count.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 6: It doesn't matter what you want because the vocal minority
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 6: wants it this way. I want people to vote. Do
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 6: I think property taxes are too high?
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 6: Do I think the state has put more of a
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 6: burden on our homeowners?
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, of course.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: If you'd be a fool to say, no, it's fine,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 6: just vote for every levy. But the counties are put
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 6: in a position, and what scares the hell out of me,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 6: they're talking about getting rid of the Ohio income tax altogether.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 6: That's $ 9 to $ 11 billion a year that is going
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 6: to come out of the budgets. And the state could
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 6: very easily say, well, it's on the counties to provide
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 6: the services now, unfunded mandates, and it's going to be worse.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 6: So we do need a realignment of how things are
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 6: paid for at the state level and what the county
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 6: is responsible for.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 6: I don't want to disenfranchise. I'll use one of Beatrice's terms.
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 6: I don't want to disenfranchise any voters. I don't want
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 6: to say, no, we're not putting that levy on because
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 6: I got 10 people calling me.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: They don't agree with it.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 6: So you don't get an opportunity to vote on it.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 6: I couldn't afford that kind of increase in property tax myself.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: I'll say that.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 7: Okay.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 2: Uh, it's just, uh, all right, let's take some calls
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: instead of, uh, all right. Uh, you're on with Gino.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 3: Hello.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 8: Ron.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: Yes. Uh, here she is. The boss lady. Go ahead.
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 6: Maddie, Maddie, Maddie.
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: All right. Go ahead and make your comments. Cause I
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: got a bunch of calls here. Go ahead.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 23: I got a question.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 4: My concern is this.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 23: This, um, this MRDD levy, MCBDD levy, you know, they're
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 23: asking for 15.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: And a half million a year.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 23: The amount that they need is $ 8 million to meet
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 23: their match. They're even asking for almost double than what
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 23: they need to unlock, quote, unlock more funds. With the
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 23: lack of oversight that we have seen as members of
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 23: this community, of this county, and all of the stuff
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 23: that's happening with dollars right now, I also dug into
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 23: some And I'm a bit concerned of the oversight here.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 23: I mean, people, the program that exists today is not
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 23: the same program, and it's not providing the same types
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 23: of people with the same services. When we say MCBDD,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 23: you think of developmentally disabled. You think of, like, severely
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 23: mentally disabled people. That is not, it has expanded. Not
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 23: to say that there aren't those cases and those outlier cases,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 23: and those are important, and I don't think there's anybody
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 23: in the world that's going to say, oh, my God,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 23: you shouldn't do it. They have expanded what that coverage is. Autism,
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 23: things like that, right? Mild autism and ADHD. Parents are
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 23: being paid to sit at home. In fact, I just
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 23: looked yesterday. I'll share it with you.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 4: It's actually kind of comical.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 23: There is a whole entire video series of people teaching
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 23: you how to scam the system. Now, the people that
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 23: approve this is MCBDD. They approve this. So they say
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 23: whether that person can get more money. They're getting paid.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: There are people.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 23: Who are making $ 100, 000 a year. $ 100, 000 a year.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: All right, hang on.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: Listen to what he's saying.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 23: Yes.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 23: And if you saw the number of whistleblowers, which they're
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 23: calling themselves because I cannot say their name, that are
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 23: telling me, But there are people living in these crazy
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 23: big-sized homes. There are people who are ripping us off.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 23: The lack of oversight across all of these organizations has
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 23: me dumbfounded. And we continue. We already gave them a
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 23: forever levy, okay? They want more money. So now they're
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 23: asking us for 15 million when they, their numbers say
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 23: they need eight to unlock more money.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, no.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 23: Nobody's going to lose services. And did you know, did
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 23: you know, Gino, that the state has a process built
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 23: in for if all the levy money went away, all
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 23: of it tomorrow. Let's pretend like the forever levy was
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 23: never the biggest mistake you made in your career. Let's
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 23: pretend like that doesn't exist. There's no levies for MCBDD.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: Tomorrow morning, hold on, tomorrow morning.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 23: If every levy goes away, if every levy goes away,
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 23: all of them, tomorrow, $ 0 to MCBDD. No levies exist.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 23: The state already has a mechanism in place. The providers
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 23: will still get paid. Those people will still get their benefits.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 23: But us dummies, go check into that, Gino. That'll be
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 23: a simple Google search. Those do not go away.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 5: They have a backup process.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 6: I'll go to the directors. Google.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: Go.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 6: Good.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 5: I told you, give him my phone number.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: I want him to call me.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 6: You found out. You found out.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 23: I can do that.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 6: Madeline, do I do that? Didn't I do that?
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: Don't I do that?
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 23: I wanted to.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 4: You didn't have him call me.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: Wait a second. Wait a second. Boss Lee, let him talk.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: Don't talk over each other. It doesn't get productive.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 6: Ron, congratulations. Her husband can't get her to be quiet.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you all the time.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 5: Well, you know what?
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: I am a real man here.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: Let me hike up in the chair a little bit.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 3: God bless you.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: I bow to you, Ron Burr. I bow to you,
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: Ron Burr. There you go. I get it.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 6: Madeline, was that video telling them how to cheat in
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 6: Mahoning County? Is that what you're saying, or is it
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 6: the national thing? No, it's the national thing.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 23: Hold on.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: You're not letting me talk now.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 7: Let me finish.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: No, I wasn't done.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 16: Okay.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 6: Did I prove you on one occasion, and I don't
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 6: want to rub it in, but you can't rely on
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 6: Google and you can't rely on AI searches for numbers
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: all the time.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: No, I agree.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 24: You can't rely on that.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 23: You proved to me one time that a guy's salary
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 23: was incorrect, but that was because what they reported was incorrect.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 5: What came up.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 23: So it pulled down incorrect information.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 6: Listen, you're respected in the community. I just want you
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 6: to sound intelligent. I don't want to call in and say, look.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: Oh, Jesus.
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 4: Here we go.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: You know what? I want you to sound intelligent for
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: a change, too, boss lady.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 6: Oh, Ron, don't even.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 13: Ron.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, Ron.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 23: I'm going to drive up there.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you're a lousy bowler, too.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 23: No, I'm telling you. There are plans in place already.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 23: Go look it up. Call him. Call Whitaker. Tell Whitaker
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 23: to call me.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 5: Tell Whitaker to call me.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, you can do that. I've got to
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: take more calls. Are you done? Anything else quickly before
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: my break runs?
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 23: I think I summed that up rather well.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: All right. Thank you. Well, have Whitaker call her, I guess,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: and they can argue.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 6: With each other.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 3: I put the whip down on her last night.
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: Maybe you need to go bowling with her.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 6: Oh, my God, please.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: Stand by. We've got a few more minutes with the commissioner,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: and then he'll part ways, and I'll try to get
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: more calls on right after this.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 23: I'm Dr.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: Cheryl Figliano from 570 WKBN.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: All right, from NewsRadio 570 WKBN. I will tell all
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: of you this, and I'll say it with Gino on
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: the line. I have learned a lot today. And in
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: a sense of I think everyone can have an opinion,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: but sometimes some of the arguments that I hear don't
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: make sense. It doesn't matter whether I agree or disagree
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: with grants or if the country's $ 40 trillion in debt.
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: The reality is they're here today, folks. And I would
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: rather this community get the grants than they go to
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: Columbus or somewhere else in the state or in the country.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: I mean, it isn't a case of whether grants are
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: good or bad. It is the reality. And to get
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: them here in our community is not a bad thing.
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: It's a good thing. I would like more of them
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: to come here. You can have an argument some other
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: time whether or not we should have them in the
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: first place, but they do exist. Let's get them here.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: And one other point that I would like to make
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: that I'm coming to get an understanding of. is you
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: can't always remodel an old building and make it functional.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying. You're saying the parking deck
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: was condemned, so it's got to get ripped down. Why
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: buy some old building with more problems if we can
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: build something new and we don't have to remodel it
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: and have asbestos and we can operate from those standards?
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: It's hard to argue with that. I could put a
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: second story on an old house, which is still an
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: old house, or I could build a brand new one,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: and it would be more energy efficient and probably safer
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: in the long run. So, folks, I'm just here to say,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: and I say it publicly, I'm not so stubborn in
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: my opinions that I can't learn and change and roll
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: with the punches. And I think everybody made some really
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: legitimate points, including Gino, I think. And you and I
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: have gone around and round on a number of things.
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: But I'm not going to be so bold-headed that I
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: don't listen and hear some of what you're saying that
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: you've learned from what the regulations are and what the
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: criteria is sitting in that chair. Correct? Correct.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, and Ron, just a case in point. Boss Lady,
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 6: we'll use that. Boss Lady says there's a plan in
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 6: the state that if all the tax levies go away, they're.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: Going to fund everything.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 6: Ron, the reason why everyone is asking for more money
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 6: from the schools to the developmental disabled levy is because
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 6: the state is cutting those funds. The state changed and
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 6: Bill Whitaker can make a good point.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 2: Let me do my break and then a few more
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: minutes afterwards to elaborate on that, all right? Can you
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: just bear with me to elaborate on that? I'm taking
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: a lot of everybody's time, but I think it's a
• 1:29:42
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• 1:31:01
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  Speaker 2: Back to it, News Radio 570, WKBN and Ron Verb, 504,
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: before I take a call or two. What are your
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: thoughts on this situation with Saccone and the controversy that's
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: going on there? I mean, it's just the bill's not
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 2: getting paid with the court and that whole situation. And
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: I know the Republicans and Democrats say you need to quit,
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: and he's not going to do that.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 6: Well, Ron, it's... everything's been in the paper as far
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 6: as the clerk and now that office is functioning or
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 6: not functioning. The clerk put in a request for a
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 6: budget addition of $ 100, 000 to the commissioners. He needs $ 100, 000
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 6: more dollars to run through through the end of the year.
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 6: Now the budget, I think the budget is like locked
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 6: in around October and it's a budget. You got to
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 6: stick to your budget. If you go over and of
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 6: course there's things that happen where you could go over
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 6: The elected official would come in, explain everything, show the commissioners,
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 6: because we're spending the.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 7: Residents' money.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 6: And if there's an ask, and they could show, you know,
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 6: here's why we need this, here's what happened, here's all the.
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 7: Reasons, okay, fine. If it's justified, we give it to them. Well,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 7: the clerk asked for.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 6: A $ 100, 000 addition to his budget, which is a little
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 6: under one-tenth of the year. We're in October. We're just
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 6: in October. He's got to go the rest of the year.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 6: So he asked for a meeting with the commissioners, a
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 6: staff meeting, to request this money, a budget addition. So
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 6: he set out an invitation. He accepted the invitation. Now,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 6: when you accept an invitation through the county system, that
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 6: means you'll be there. Well, the clerk didn't show up.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 6: He spent two of his representatives there. He didn't bring
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 6: with him anything. They didn't bring any figures. They just
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 6: said the clerk's requesting $ 100, 000 because we've got to buy
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 6: this or that, and we've got to buy these files.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 6: And if we don't get these files by Friday, it's
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 6: going to put a burden on the courts.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: You should have responded to him. You want more money.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 2: How about paying the electric bill down at the court?
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 2: How about showing up to work? Here's one, Mr. Cohen.
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: Why don't you show up? Why don't you answer to
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 2: the public?
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 6: And again, he's an elected official. But, Ron, here's my concern.
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 6: If I have a bonfire going in my backyard, I'm
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 6: not going to go throw $ 100 bills at it unless
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 6: you tell me why I've got to stoke the fire
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 6: or put more wood on the fire. I said, and
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 6: my colleagues agreed, that the clerk has to come in,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 6: just like any other public official would come in, come
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 6: to work, come to our meeting, justify the need, because
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 6: you want to go way over your budget. Tell us why,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 6: because we're on... Just like Rich, just like Boss Lady,
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 6: we're accountable to the residents, and it's their money we're spending.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 6: I'm not going to throw $ 100 bills in a bonfire
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 6: if I don't have all the answers. So we sent
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 6: out another, you know, the clerk asked for another meeting.
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 6: We said, well, here's the thing on the meeting. You've
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 6: got to bring documents, bring yourself, and talk to the commissioners.
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 6: You know, because it's not our money. You won't see
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 6: a picture of me with a big check with my
• 1:36:31
  Speaker 6: name on it giving it away. It's not my money.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 6: It's the resident's money. And I watch the resident's money.
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 6: And that's what we're going to do. And the clerk
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 6: is going to abide like everybody else. We are the
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 6: budget authority, and that's what we do. So when he
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 6: comes in, he wants to come in and explain it
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 6: and justify it.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 7: We'll look at it.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: Right. I mean, listen, I can sit back and I
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: could say to everybody listening, which is true. I mean,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: there's no doubt Canfield has such a situation out there
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: with that middle school and it definitely is outdated. All
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: I'm saying is if listen, all I can give you
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 2: is my opinion. If I was in Canfield, I would say, no,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: I can't afford this gigantic levy they're putting on. and
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: I certainly can't afford this MRDD levy. So as a voter,
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 2: I have a say-so to say no to each of them,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: just as any other voter has the ability to say
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: yes or anything else. I mean, that is democracy, and
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: then we live with the outcome. But, I mean, people's
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: got to get out and vote on these financial issues.
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: If they don't, then they are to blame. Let me
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: take some quick calls and cut you loose. Okay, you're
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 2: on the air with Gino. Hello. Yes, Ted, go ahead.
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 26: Hey, I want to say thank you to Gino. I
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 26: think he clarified a lot of things today.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 2: I would agree.
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 26: I think I support all his decision-making.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 3: He explained himself. He made it pretty clear. Now, you
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 3: could disagree, but that doesn't make him wrong. Boss Lady,
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 3: for example, it's easy to misrepresent facts. I don't know
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: what you guys are talking about with Whitaker or this
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: guy Celery, but she spoke about the county giving away
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 3: some money to some guy to fix his house.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: Here we are, we find out the truth, it's HUD money.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: The Mahoning County government is a facilitator for HUD, if
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken, right? You know, you guys don't have
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 3: HUD dollars.
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we actually, it's a competitive grant. There's like 600
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 6: of them in the country, and we were blessed to
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 6: have a guy in our employee.
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 3: That works for the lead-based thing.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 6: He writes the grants.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: We get the money.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 6: We're able to help. It's basically, it helps 600-year-old kids
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 6: so they don't get lead poisoning.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: Right, but my point is you don't make the rules
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: the federal government does. You don't fund it the federal
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: government does. It's not our county tax dollars. So Gino
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: wasn't giving away general fund dollars to some guy.
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: That is correct. And even if you're against the grants,
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 2: like I said, Ted, that doesn't mean they go away.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 2: You get them to go away. But in the meantime,
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 2: since they're there, get your share of it.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 26: And then when someone like the boss lady comes on
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 26: and misrepresents the facts like that, it really makes it
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 26: hard on all of us. And I'll say the same
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 26: thing for Rich. No disrespect to the boss lady and Rich,
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 26: but no matter what Gino said, it wasn't good enough
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 26: for Rich. He kept moving the goalposts so much to
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 26: where he started talking about when he bought his house. Well,
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 26: running the county government and planning buildings for these programs
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 26: to facilitate their mission isn't like buying a house. And
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 26: I think Gino made it pretty clear and concise as
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 26: to the decision-making, what went into it, and how it
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 26: was done. You and I may not like how the
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 26: government's run, but Gino doesn't make the rules. You know,
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 26: it's like officiating a football game. You may not like
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 26: the rules, but the guy's got to call the game
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 26: according to the rules, right?
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 6: Established.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 26: Everyone's complaining. All the complaints I heard have to do
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 26: with a bigger picture of how government is set up
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 26: and run. And Gino doesn't make those decisions. Gino does
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 26: what the law tells him to do. And I think,
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 26: you know, he's not taking the easy way out. He's
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 26: had the courage to come forward. Take these beatings that
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 26: people are giving him. And he stood his ground and
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 26: he told you why. And I think that's very respectable
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 26: because not many people have the courage to do what
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 26: Gino did.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 3: I appreciate that. I do that. I thank him for that.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 26: And I think he made his point very clear. You
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 26: may disagree with the process.
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 3: He did what.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: Was best for Mahoney County as a whole.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: And let me put it this way. You know, mega
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: dittos to that. I would agree that I think he
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 2: came on. I think he made his points quite clearly.
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: And I'll be the first guy to say, you know,
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 2: when I'm when I'm inaccurate or wrong on something, I
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 2: have no problem admitting when I'm wrong because I've been
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: married a long time. So I'm used to admitting when
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 2: I'm wrong.
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 6: Well, you've never been right then, Ron.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 2: Right. I mean, granted, and I tell both of you this.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: My wife thinks I'm really smart because she says, way
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: to go, Einstein, all the time when I'm at home.
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 2: So I know what it feels like, guys, to be.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 27: I agree.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 3: I'm in the same boat. I think all three of
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: us guys are in the same boat.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 2: But, I mean, we can all have opinions. It's what
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: I say with Trump and the war. Listen. I'm against it.
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 2: I think it's a mistake. But I don't know everything
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: he knows or what Rubio knows. I don't know what
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: information they have that they're not telling me. And I
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: asked Gino a key question. I said, Gino, is it
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: different when Gino, the truck driver, running as opposed to
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 2: now being in the seat? And he was honest enough
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: to answer yes. Correct, Gino?
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 7: 100%.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 3: 100%.
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 24: You know, I want to say this, too, because I
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 24: think this is so important, especially at election time. You know,
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 24: up until this year, I'd never known Geno, never met him,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 24: really never had a conversation like we're doing now. But
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 24: the reason I voted for.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 3: Geno, and this is just me, Steve, Ted the conservative.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 26: When I look at people on the ballot, I think
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 26: I am a good judge of character. And I try
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 26: to vote for good people. Because if you vote a
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 26: good person in the office, they're going to make the
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 26: best decision that they can in the best interest of
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 26: the people. And I think Geno's a good guy. I
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 26: really do, and I think we're seeing that as he
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 26: came on today and he's explaining the decision-making process. He
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 26: doesn't like the government. He told you he doesn't like
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 26: how the government's set up, but he can't change it.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 26: He has to play within the rules that he's given.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: So I think it's important. Vote for good people. Vote
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 3: for honest people that are willing to say, hey, I
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 3: may have made a mistake. Things are a little bit
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 3: different now. So that's important.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: And listen, I'll be the first guy to say, once again—
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: You know, these levies are put on, and I have
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 2: one vote, and I can vote against them. And that's
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: how democracy works. And I will vote against them.
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 26: You know, I'm... Just like I'll vote against every Democrat.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: On the ballot, right?
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: Well, sometimes... You know, I'll tell you, when you say
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: something like that, and you can, I have no problem
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: with that, but just as a side note, you know,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 26: That doesn't mean we're not going to get a bad one.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: No, I was... I was talking with John Boceri yesterday,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: and he is a first-class individual. Yeah, good guy. I mean,
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: if you know his history and everything. There you go.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: He's a Democrat. All right.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 3: Okay, guys. Thank you very much.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: All right. Thank you.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 3: Thank you, sir.
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: You're on with Gino.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 6: Hello.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 15: Well, first of all, Ron, you are wrong all the time.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 15: And second of all, the Ted guy... as far as
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 15: a good judge of character, the jury's still out. But
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 15: I called you to tell you this. I'm impressed, Ron,
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 15: to have Gino and Rich have the conversations that they had.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 15: Both of them had valid points. Both of them didn't
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 15: get personal.
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: It was a productive discussion.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 15: It showed us what was going on.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 15: I'm not picking sides, but I will tell you, Ron,
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 15: it's a great show.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 3: It's an Emmy Award show.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 15: I'm telling you, this was great.
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 6: And, Gino, you know, I appreciate that.
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 3: Thank you for showing up, man.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 15: I'm impressed because people don't usually do what you did,
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 15: you know, to take the slings and arrows. And Rich
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 15: is a good guy, too, right? But that Ted guy,
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 15: I don't know. So you guys have a good weekend, okay?
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 2: All right, Gino, I know that I've imposed on a
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: lot of time. Anything else that you would like to
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 2: address the public on today?
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 6: No, Ron, I just want you to know that, honest
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 6: to God, I'm the same guy that ran. I'm finding
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 6: out a lot of things about government. I've learned a lot,
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 6: of course, in almost two years. And I'm not done.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 6: I am making the changes that I can. And I,
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 6: honest to God, I am humbled to be in this position.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 6: And I love serving the public. And everything I do,
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 6: every day when I go into work, I try to
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 6: solve what I can solve, change what I can change
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 6: to make a better Mahoney Valley. I really do, because
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 6: I love it here. And that's not political speak. That's
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 6: not anything else.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 7: I love my job.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 6: I love being able to affect change, and we're making changes.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: You know, like I'm reading an email, and this is
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 2: what is frustrating, and I just read this. I wonder
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: if any of the contractors doing the work on a
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: new county building boondoggle will donate to Gino's campaign fund. Okay. Now,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: listen to this. I wrote him about the inconvenience to
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: pay for parking and to drive into crime-ridden areas. Never
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: heard back from him. I will vote for them before
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 2: I vote for Gino. Now, when I read something like that,
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: when I read something like that to this emailer, I asked,
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: you know, about the parking garage. I and and ask
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: him about people having to pay to park. Then he
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: explained how, okay, if we have to pay to park,
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: then we can maintain the parking garage, just like when
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: you pay on a toll road. He explained all of that.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: It might not be the answer that you like, e-mailer,
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 2: but he's saying, okay, if you go down, we're going
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: to have a parking garage. And if you pay to
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 2: get in, then that money goes to maintain the thing
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 2: which needs to be maintained. It has to be done. Right.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, not everything is free.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 2: You know and this idea so he answered your questions
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 2: and you say well i'll vote for them before that's
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 2: just stupidity caller it's no it's not fine it is
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: it is stupidity and and it's not always driving into
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: downtown youngstown is not a crime-ridden area i mean it's
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: a it's it's just not that so i just wanted
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: to to you know and there's and there's pro ones
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 2: too gino that uh boss lady is Kamala Harris, shrieks constantly,
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: but Harris wasn't as angry and a fool like boss lady. Wow.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 6: And I don't like to call her. She's misinformed at times,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 6: very misinformed.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: I don't like personal attacks on this kind of stuff.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: I got one guy who constantly emails me, and it's like,
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: you know what? He sends me so damn many emails.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: It's like, get off your lazy ass and call a show, basically.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: So I don't even read his because he doesn't have
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: the balls to call a show, so call it.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 7: That's a lot of Facebook, Rob.
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 6: People can attack you on Facebook all day long, but
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 6: then you see him on the street, and it's like,
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 6: And I love to have conversation. And I'm very– I
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 6: talk to anybody. I'll take any call. I'll take any criticism.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 6: And I'll tell you my point. And I don't have
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 6: to argue with you.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 5: We'll disagree.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 6: And that's okay.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: It's okay.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 3: Not everybody's opinion is the same.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: But you've got to be– you've got to have– you
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: also have to listen and admit at times, okay, now
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 2: I've got a better opinion or a more informed opinion
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 2: because now I have– a different side of it. Listen,
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: I think you made a lot of, I do think
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: you made a lot of good points today. I'm the
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: first guy to admit if I, if I'm wrong on
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: something and I'd be more than happy to, to do that.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: Cause I'm used to, I'm used to admitting I've been wrong.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 7: I'm wrong.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 6: Like I said, even about 10 seconds. Cause I like,
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 6: I like leaving on a little happy, funny note.
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 6: About, about, about four weeks ago, my wife had told
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 6: me and other people said, man, you look great on TV.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 6: Your beer looks great. Well, I go into the shower.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 6: I thought I'm gonna go, get my shower. I go
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 6: into the shower.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 3: I look at my face.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 6: I says, yeah, I'm going to shave. I shaved my beard.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 6: I've had my beard for about seven years, right? I
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 6: come out of the bathroom and we have a very
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 6: small house, very small living room. My wife's on the couch.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 6: I'm in my chair and we're talking for about, we're
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 6: talking 10 minutes.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 3: I said, Shelly, really?
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 7: And she said, what?
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: I says, really?
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 6: I said, you didn't notice I shaved? She goes, oh,
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 6: I never look at you when I talk to you.
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 6: And I said, I never listen when you talk. So
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 6: that's 43 years of marriage. That's what it gets you.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 6: He never looked at me.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 2: Here's the secret, Gino, as I go from 68 to
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: 69 before too long. I've removed all the mirrors in
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: my house because of the old guy looking back at me.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: And you might want to get there. You're going to
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: get there someday.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 5: I'll send you a picture.
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 6: That's what I see when I look in the mirror.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 6: But I'm lying to myself.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 2: I know that.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 6: But I look at a guy, and I look at
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 6: myself when I was 22. I was happy.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 2: You say, what the hell happened?
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 3: You know, all right.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: Hey, listen, I appreciate you coming on. I hope you'll
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: come on again. And I think that communication as to
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 2: what you're thinking is and what others are thinking and discussions.
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 2: I'm not interested in debates. I'm interested in discussions. And
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: I think that's what we try to have happen here today.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 6: We're going to be very transparent with this build. I'll
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 6: tell you, there's going to be a website. There's going
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 6: to be all kind of, it's going to be very transparent.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 6: Where the money is, what we're doing, what the progress
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 6: we're making as far as what roads are going to
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 6: be closed and when, it's going to be very transparent.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 6: We're not going to have happen what happened with the
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 6: other project that was downtown. I think people, at the
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 6: end of the day, people will appreciate it. And they'll
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 6: see the need and the worth. But I appreciate your
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 6: time this afternoon.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: I really do. Thanks. Appreciate it, Gino. All right. I
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 2: thought it was a very productive afternoon. I thought Rich
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: handled himself well. I think Gino handled himself well. I
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: think it was a good discussion. Not debate, discussion. That's
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: the way it should be, and I'll be right back.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 22: For 50 years, Sherrod Brown voted how he was told.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 22: 1975 to today, different presidents, different issues, but Sherrod Brown's
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 22: vote never changed. Higher taxes, Brown voted for them. Open borders,
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 22: Brown voted for them. Sex changes for kids, Sherrod Brown
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 22: supported that too. When Washington Democrats needed Brown's vote, he
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Ron, I've got a question for you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Now that you had a little conversation with Gino, tell
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  Speaker 3: Other than they don't call your show, what is your
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  Speaker 2: My beef with them would be exactly what you mentioned.
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  Speaker 2: It's my personal view that I think you have a duty,
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  Speaker 2: public servant to communicate with the people that you are serving.
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  Speaker 2: And it's difficult for me to say this because it
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  Speaker 2: sounds egotistical. I don't mean it to sound that way.
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  Speaker 2: But you're not going to find a larger audience or
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  Speaker 2: a better or bigger audience to communicate with your constituents
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  Speaker 2: than you will find here.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Ron, let me put it to you this way.
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  Speaker 2: No, wait a minute. You asked me a question, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm still answering it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: All right? So you want to know my answer? I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what you're doing or what you've done or
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  Speaker 2: are planning to do if you don't communicate it. If
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  Speaker 2: you're going to be in public service, you have a
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  Speaker 2: duty to communicate. I've been here a long time. Pat
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  Speaker 2: Angaro would come on on a regular basis. George McKelvey
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  Speaker 2: would come here. I say it all the time. McKelvey
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  Speaker 2: would sit in that chair. People would call. He would
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  Speaker 2: write down their complaints. He would pick up the phone
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  Speaker 2: during a commercial break. He would call the office and
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  Speaker 2: tell people to go take care of this situation. I
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: watched Pat Ungaro do the same thing. I watched George
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  Speaker 2: Tablak that would do it back in the day. I've
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  Speaker 2: had people on that agree and disagree with me on
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  Speaker 2: a regular basis over the years. So I think it's
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  Speaker 2: their duty, and they don't do it, to communicate what
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: they're doing as $ 100, 000- plus employees of yours. to do that. Now,
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  Speaker 2: if you don't understand that, that is what your duty is.
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  Speaker 2: You don't reach that on podcasts or Facebook or anything else.
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  Speaker 2: So that is what my issue is with anybody. Dave
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  Speaker 2: Thomas comes on on a regular basis. People now understand
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  Speaker 2: what he's doing, what he's done with property taxes. Where
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: do you think they found out that information? On a
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: six o'clock news, on a one minute story? So use
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  Speaker 2: your head. I think it's your duty as a public
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  Speaker 2: servant to come on. And frankly, the people who don't
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  Speaker 2: come on, I'm going to tell you, they're afraid to
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  Speaker 2: come on because they're afraid of the questioning. That's where
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  Speaker 2: I'm at on it. And if you've got a problem
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  Speaker 2: with it, I don't know what to tell you. Then
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  Speaker 2: you don't get it.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I agree with you. You know, you need transparency.
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  Speaker 3: But when you take that away from the picture and
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  Speaker 3: you go with the landscape, the political landscape.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not taking it away from the picture. That is
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  Speaker 2: the picture. Period. You have a duty as a public
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  Speaker 2: elected official.
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  Speaker 3: Political landscape.
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  Speaker 6: Nothing's changed.
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  Speaker 3: Geno sees things they do. The same way they do.
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  Speaker 3: That's why you don't like them.
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  Speaker 2: It's not because they don't call in. Do they communicate?
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  Speaker 7: No, no.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what.
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  Speaker 3: Listen.
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  Speaker 5: And he sees it the same way.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what they stand for. You know why
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what they stand for? Never hear from them.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you get that? Don't you understand that? I'm done
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  Speaker 2: with you. I'm done with you. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Ron, way to stand up, brother.
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean, you know, stand by for a second,
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  Speaker 2: Bubba Ganoush. I get tired of the bull crap of
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  Speaker 2: a guy like that. You can call her. You can
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  Speaker 2: go kiss whosoever ass you want to kiss. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I sit here, these are the public airwaves, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to be here forever because I'm an old
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  Speaker 2: guy now. You know, I'm not going to be here
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  Speaker 2: until I'm 80 years old. It's just not, I'm closer
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  Speaker 2: to the end than I am the beginning. But by God,
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  Speaker 2: I can tell you what happened in the past with people,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't see it happening today. I don't care
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  Speaker 2: if I go back, whether I agreed or disagreed. We
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  Speaker 2: had on trustees that would call in all the time
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  Speaker 2: from Boardman or from Austintown or people from Canfield or
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  Speaker 2: the public what it is you're doing. And you want
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  Speaker 2: to come on. No one knows what these other two
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• 1:56:06
  Speaker 2: never say, this is what we're doing. This is what
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• 1:56:25
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  Speaker 2: Is uh you know when i hear guys like the
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  Speaker 2: last guy you you have all of you have to
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  Speaker 2: remember something these people ask here's the strange things you
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 2: shouldn't just hear from these people when they're asking for
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 2: your vote when it comes election time all of a
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: sudden election time, they want to knock on your door
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: or leave a leaflet on your door when they're running
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: for office. And the next thing you know, if they
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 2: get elected, you never hear from them again until it's
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: election time again. That to me is a phoniness and
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 2: I don't have much respect for it. And I never have.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I sit here, and as I've said,
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 2: I've been around a long time, and I've watched over
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: the years. And I've watched great communicators like Pat Angaro,
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: who would sit, just as Gino did today, and answer
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: questions for hours. And answer them honestly without any spin.
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  Speaker 2: He just was kind of a down-to-earth guy. I dwell
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  Speaker 2: on it all the time. And when I would watch
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  Speaker 2: George McKelvey, and that's exactly what George McKelvey didn't refer
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  Speaker 2: to you as a voter. He referred to you as
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  Speaker 2: a customer. And he wrote down what people's complaints were.
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  Speaker 2: And you know what he tried to do? Solve them
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  Speaker 2: to the best of his ability. I watched Jim traffic
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  Speaker 2: and come in numerous times and even a host when
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 2: we were off and answer constituents questions on a regular
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  Speaker 2: basis on this radio station. I mean, I could go,
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 2: I could go on and on and on, on that.
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  Speaker 2: And even people that I've had huge disagreements with would,
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  Speaker 2: would likewise do the same things. So it's what I
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  Speaker 2: tell everybody. This isn't prerecorded. This is live. This is
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  Speaker 2: real life. This is live and it's real life, what's
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  Speaker 2: going on here. And when people send me emails, well,
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  Speaker 2: how can I get on the program to make my point?
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  Speaker 2: My response remains the same. You pick up your damn
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  Speaker 2: phone and you call. It's real easy. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: get I got I got some emails from these people from,
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  Speaker 2: you know, that are that are with the pro levy
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  Speaker 2: and can the city of Canfield. How can we get
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  Speaker 2: on a show? And I want to pull my hair
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  Speaker 2: out and say, well, you pick up the damn phone
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  Speaker 2: and you call like everybody else. That's how you get
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  Speaker 2: on the show. It's not that difficult. That's why we
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 2: give out numbers. I had several emails from people. Well,
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 2: we want to make our case for the levy in Canfield. Well,
• 2:00:51
  Speaker 2: pick up the phone and call. Just as everybody else does.
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  Speaker 2: Or anybody else. But when people get elected to these offices,
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  Speaker 2: they disappear in many cases. Other than collect a paycheck,
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  Speaker 2: you can't think of anything they've done. I believe you
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  Speaker 2: have a duty to say, here's where I'm at, here's
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 2: what I'm doing, here's what I'm thinking. And there's nothing
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  Speaker 2: to stop any of them from calling in and doing that.
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  Speaker 2: And I think they have a duty. I don't give
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  Speaker 2: a damn if you're Congressman Rooley. I don't care if
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  Speaker 2: you're Trafficante or Carol Rigetti. or trustees or mayors or
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 2: whoever the hell you are. That's what forums are all about,
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  Speaker 2: to communicate to your constituents. And when you do a
• 2:01:59
  Speaker 2: program that's live and when you do a program that
• 2:02:01
  Speaker 2: can take calls, that benefits even more. I'm for more
• 2:02:06
  Speaker 2: of whatever you can do. I don't care what forum
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 2: it is, whether that's... There's not a lot of.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 2: So much limited that you can even do on Facebook.
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  Speaker 2: But I mean, as far as live forums, I don't
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 2: care if it's podcast, I don't care if it's radio,
• 2:02:23
  Speaker 2: I don't care if it's TV, but most of them
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 2: can't devote hours of time. But we can hear. And
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 2: that's why I say, and I mean it sincerely, it's
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 2: difficult for me to It's difficult for me to say
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  Speaker 2: this because it sounds bad. I'm not here to toot
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  Speaker 2: my own horn or make it sound like it is,
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: but it's a huge audience. And we're blessed by it.
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's a great radio station with a huge
• 2:02:53
  Speaker 2: signal that's been around 100 years with a large listening audience.
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  Speaker 2: That we are blessed with. Well, that's how you talk
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  Speaker 2: to the majority of your constituents. I don't know what else.
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  Speaker 2: That's all I can do for all of you. Nothing more,
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 2: nothing less. Do it for a while. Not going to
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 2: be around forever, you know, because you get old. Here's
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 2: a shocker. Life goes by in a blink of an
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  Speaker 2: eye and it goes by very quickly. And it's going
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  Speaker 2: by very quickly for me. You know, at some point
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  Speaker 2: you decide, okay. I'm going to take a break and
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 2: take a rest or whatever and spend some more time
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  Speaker 2: with my family, my wife, because I spend a lot
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 2: of time here. But that's not happening today or tomorrow
• 2:03:51
  Speaker 2: or next week. As long as iHeart gives me this
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 2: great opportunity and a great paycheck, I'll show up. You're
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 2: on the air. Hello.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I say that I'm going to go for the
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 5: Browns to win, the Guardians to win, and Ohio State
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  Speaker 5: to win.
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  Speaker 2: Could you believe it last night? Could you believe what
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 2: a game. What a Guardians game.
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  Speaker 6: It was great, wasn't it?
• 2:04:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, it was. It was a high. When did they
• 2:04:25
  Speaker 2: play again?
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  Speaker 5: Did they play in tonight?
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 2: Saturday. Saturday. Saturday evening. And if they win, it would
• 2:04:34
  Speaker 2: be unbelievable to me. What a great game. Tom Hamilton
• 2:04:39
  Speaker 2: is so great at calling that game in a post-game
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  Speaker 2: show with Rosie. Just phenomenal. What a great game.
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  Speaker 5: They're great people.
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  Speaker 23: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And, boy, I'll be listening to the Browns on 93.3,
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 2: our sister station, the Wolf Home of Rover's Morning Glory.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll be listening to the– I listen more than
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 2: I watch this stuff because I'm busy doing other stuff.
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  Speaker 5: I mean– I think Andrew Siciliano is doing a good job.
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  Speaker 3: Don't you think so?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I think he's done an excellent job. Jimmy Donovan
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  Speaker 2: was great. Unfortunately, his health didn't hold up.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I love Jimmy Donovan. He was a legend.
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  Speaker 2: But Siciliano's filling the very big shoes. I agree. All right,
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  Speaker 2: my friend.
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  Speaker 5: Take care.
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  Speaker 3: Have a good week.
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  Speaker 2: Dick from Dayton. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 7: Hello, Ron.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: I'm here to just lighten things up a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: It's about something you talked about yesterday when you were
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  Speaker 4: at the airport.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 20: What did I talk about?
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  Speaker 4: Well, there was a gentleman that wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, this was on Monday. He was a gentleman. He
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  Speaker 2: was a guy dressed up as a woman.
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  Speaker 6: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm in the Pittsburgh airport, and I'm going up
• 2:05:45
  Speaker 4: the escalator. And in front of me, there's this guy
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 4: with the shortest skirt I've ever seen and the highest
• 2:05:54
  Speaker 4: heels I've ever seen. And I'm thinking, well, that's interesting.
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  Speaker 4: So I get on the plane, and they said, do
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  Speaker 4: you want to sit in the emergency row? And I said, sure.
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  Speaker 4: And guess who my partner was?
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  Speaker 7: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 2: Uh-huh.
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  Speaker 4: And he was scared to death of flying. So I'm
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 4: sitting there, and I'm going, well, you know, as long
• 2:06:14
  Speaker 4: as we break through the clouds, we'll be doing good.
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 4: And he was really nervous, and it was interesting. And
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 4: it kind of goes back to what your mom talked about.
• 2:06:23
  Speaker 4: If you plant a seed, you know, you go to church.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll tell you what really drives me crazy, though,
• 2:06:30
  Speaker 2: and it drives me absolutely berserk. To where, you know,
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: I'm at this close to going up to you and
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 2: saying what should be said. When people are coughing and
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 2: they don't cover their mouth, and I see it all
• 2:06:46
  Speaker 2: the damn time in the store, and this was a
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 2: case in the airport and on a plane, it's like,
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  Speaker 2: cover your mouth. Stop. I mean, you know, do I
• 2:06:59
  Speaker 2: have to tell you this? And I'm to the point
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 2: where I'm ready to tell them that. But we'll see.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't going to go that far. I was just
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 4: talking to him about it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 4: Well, about flying and how it wasn't that bad. And
• 2:07:13
  Speaker 4: I'm saying it's talking about where would you want to
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 4: go if you could go someplace?
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  Speaker 2: It's just weird. It's just weird. I got to tell
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  Speaker 2: you there.
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  Speaker 4: It's like, well, he wasn't coughing.
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  Speaker 2: He was just, I know, but I mean, you're a guy,
• 2:07:26
  Speaker 2: you're a guy. You don't look like a woman. You
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 2: don't have feminine features. I mean, I don't know what
• 2:07:31
  Speaker 2: to tell you. Stop wearing a skirt. I mean, I
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 2: look at Bruce Jenner and it's like Bruce Jenner dressed
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: as a woman, not Caitlin. That's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 4: That I don't get at all. However, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the more you talk to them, the more
• 2:07:47
  Speaker 4: the flight before that I had sat next to a
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 4: guy from Mexico.
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  Speaker 2: People are people. I'm not opposed to.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, being kind is not something that's wrong. but don't
• 2:08:00
  Speaker 2: be kind and taken advantage of. Sometimes you got to
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  Speaker 2: crack the whip.
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  Speaker 5: He didn't.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't try to judge me at all.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 6: Which I thought he was going to, but he didn't.
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  Speaker 4: And that was really.
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  Speaker 6: Good of him.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm going to judge you, you old battle axe.
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  Speaker 4: I'm older than you, so you can say that and
• 2:08:19
  Speaker 4: get away with it.
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  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 4: Don't you go through chapters in your life and you think, oh,
• 2:08:25
  Speaker 4: that was a good chapter?
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you what you go through. Life
• 2:08:30
  Speaker 2: does truly go by in the blink of an eye.
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 2: I'm here to tell everybody.
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 4: I tell people that all the time.
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 2: And it's going by very quickly. I have two older brothers,
• 2:08:42
  Speaker 2: and it just goes by very quickly. I'm watching the children.
• 2:08:47
  Speaker 2: They're all adults. I remember my mother said, I just
• 2:08:50
  Speaker 2: want to stick around and see what happens to them.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 4: Is that the truth?
• 2:08:55
  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: Okay. Well, have a good rest of your day.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you for calling. You're on the air.
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  Speaker 3: Ron. Yes.
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  Speaker 7: They have to call in and wait in line like
• 2:09:07
  Speaker 7: all of us.
• 2:09:09
  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 7: Because if they don't, you know what that's saying? Like
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 7: when people say, you know, how do I get on
• 2:09:13
  Speaker 7: and just tell you what I want to say? I
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 7: don't want to hear a word you have to say.
• 2:09:17
  Speaker 7: I just want to tell you what's on my mind.
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 7: Isn't that what they're kind of saying when they do that?
• 2:09:25
  Speaker 2: Well, I guess. I don't know. It's a discussion. It's
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 2: a conversation.
• 2:09:32
  Speaker 5: Well, that's my point.
• 2:09:34
  Speaker 2: And let me tell you, Rich and Gino had a conversation.
• 2:09:38
  Speaker 2: I learned a lot from both of them. I thought
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 2: it was a very productive day.
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they did.
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:09:45
  Speaker 7: I learned more about both of them today.
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 7: So that was interesting. Yeah, I listened to it. It
• 2:09:50
  Speaker 7: was good.
• 2:09:51
  Speaker 2: Hey, Ron.
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 3: You know, the....
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 7: Did you see that site that I sent you for
• 2:09:59
  Speaker 7: WRTA that shows you where all the buses are and
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 7: how full they are? I just thought you'd find that interesting.
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 7: That way I don't have to tell you. You can
• 2:10:07
  Speaker 7: look on there anytime and see how many people are
• 2:10:09
  Speaker 7: on a bus or at that.
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  Speaker 2: The thing I find most interesting is your project. That's
• 2:10:15
  Speaker 2: just the kind of guy I am.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 3: Good?
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 2: The brick stuff.
• 2:10:22
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, it's still going good. In fact, I was
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 7: just out back today because it was nice. I have
• 2:10:28
  Speaker 7: a bunch of bricks that I buried in the border
• 2:10:32
  Speaker 7: of a garden, which I don't use anymore. And so
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 7: I've been visiting back there and going and digging them
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 7: out of the ground because once the ground freezes, it'll
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 7: be too hard to do. So I've just been getting
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 7: them and setting them there so later I can work
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 7: on them.
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 7: I appreciate that you keep track. My one neighbor, she said,
• 2:10:53
  Speaker 7: your driveway is a work of art.
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 2: And it's a lot of work.
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
• 2:11:02
  Speaker 7: I had to take like four or five days off
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 7: because my hands were so sore. My knuckles were so sore.
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 7: I was afraid I wouldn't be able to play the guitar.
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 3: So I'm healing.
• 2:11:10
  Speaker 7: I'm almost ready to go back out and do some more.
• 2:11:13
  Speaker 7: But I had to take a little time off.
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 2: He's the guru of Gerard. I appreciate you. You know that.
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 7: Have a great weekend, Rod.
• 2:11:19
  Speaker 2: Thank you. You're on the air. Hello. You're on the air. Hello.
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 7: Hello.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 2: You're on the air.
• 2:11:30
  Speaker 5: Strike three called.
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  Speaker 15: Ball game.
• 2:11:36
  Speaker 5: Wasn't that a great game?
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 6: I love it.
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 5: Tom Hamilton.
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  Speaker 3: Are you there?
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, I am here. Go ahead.
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 5: Okay, first of all, Ron, you're right. You got 50,000 listeners.
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 5: And you know how you start the program. You're talking,
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 5: we're listening to 570 WKBN. So if they're too lazy
• 2:12:01
  Speaker 5: to call in and stay on the phone like I
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 5: do for an hour and a half, that's their problem.
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 2: Now, how many times now?
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 3: Now, listen.
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 2: How many times have you and I agreed and disagreed
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 2: and hooted and hollered at each other, but we still
• 2:12:18
  Speaker 2: love and respect each other, even though you don't have
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 2: a leg to stand on?
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 5: Well, you know, I was thinking of one person I
• 2:12:24
  Speaker 5: know would call you Christine Oliver when she becomes a commissioner.
• 2:12:31
  Speaker 2: If she's successful, I think she will. I would agree
• 2:12:33
  Speaker 2: with that.
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 5: She's a nice girl. I talk to her all the time.
• 2:12:37
  Speaker 2: Well, that's a good thing. I'm glad that you feel
• 2:12:39
  Speaker 2: that way.
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 5: No, I'm doing this ballot over here. And, you know,
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 5: this kind of go through this ballot. And, yeah, this
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 5: is a simple ballot, you know.
• 2:12:52
  Speaker 2: Well, you're a simple man.
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 5: No, I mean, to pick who to pick, you know.
• 2:12:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, Michael Rowley, yeah. John Huston, yeah.
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 5: You know, like people like that. You know, it's a no-brainer.
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 6: Vivek, yeah.
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 10: Yep.
• 2:13:09
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 5: So I like what you said. There's no way, no way.
• 2:13:13
  Speaker 5: You sounded like Jackie Gleason from that show where he
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 5: was chasing that guy. What was that called?
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 2: The Honeymooners.
• 2:13:22
  Speaker 5: No, no. He was a police officer chasing that guy.
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know who you're talking about.
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 5: Smokey and the Bandit.
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 3: Oh, okay.
• 2:13:31
  Speaker 5: And he said to his son, dang, no way, no
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 5: way that I'm voting for a Democrat.
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 7: I love what you said.
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 2: Well, it's the crazy-ass agenda that they have. This idea that, well,
• 2:13:47
  Speaker 2: I'm upset with the gas prices, so I'm going to
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 2: go vote for Democrats. They hate fossil fuels. Trump had
• 2:13:52
  Speaker 2: to get rid of all the regulations. They didn't want
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 2: you to be able to drill offshore, drill on federal lands.
• 2:13:56
  Speaker 5: They shut down the refineries, like you said.
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 2: You think I'm going to go back to that?
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 2: I'm not going back to that. I'm not stupid. Well,
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 2: I might be stupid, but I know how to vote right.
• 2:14:14
  Speaker 7: I'm voting now.
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah. But listen, listen, listen.
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, don't you ever forget, I even made the
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 2: journey and had Mediterranean food for the first time for you.
• 2:14:25
  Speaker 2: Don't you forget that.
• 2:14:27
  Speaker 5: No, no, you can't. Yeah, you came to my church.
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 3: Listen.
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 5: I've got to tell you something. I was watching TBS,
• 2:14:33
  Speaker 5: you know, because that's when the.
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 2: Game was on, TBS. Last night? Hang on a second.
• 2:14:37
  Speaker 2: Hang on. I've got to talk to you about that.
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I've got to tell you something.
• 2:14:40
  Speaker 2: All right, hang on. Let me do my break. I'll
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 2: come back to you in a minute. What a great game.
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 1: Flying Missions is an air talk station, 570 WKBN.
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 2: Ron Verb from NewsRadio 570 WKBN. So you were watching
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 2: TBS and watching the game last night. Go ahead.
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was watching the game, and there's this guy,
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 5: Martin Rivera, you know, the Hall of Famer that picks
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 5: for the Yankees?
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 2:15:06
  Speaker 5: And he was there saying, you know, prior to the game,
• 2:15:09
  Speaker 5: he says, Chicago got to win this one. They got
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 5: to win this one. And after the game, he said,
• 2:15:15
  Speaker 5: if they don't win this one, he said, if they
• 2:15:17
  Speaker 5: go to Cleveland, that's it, they're done. He said, nobody
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 5: has excitement. Like Cleveland and Jose Ramirez.
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 2: What a great player. What a great player he is.
• 2:15:28
  Speaker 2: He's just a joy to watch.
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 5: You've got to hear what he said. They picked. They said,
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 5: who do you want to take home with you? And
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 5: they had four people. And he said, Jose Ramirez. And
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 5: then he goes, then he starts chanting.
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 2: He goes, Jose, you know that song? Jose, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he started doing that. This guy's a home
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 5: of favor.
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't take anything for granted because we shall
• 2:15:53
  Speaker 2: see what happens. It's going to be a nail-biter, and
• 2:15:56
  Speaker 2: I'm rooting for the Guardians, but I'm looking forward to it.
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 5: Can I give you my analysis?
• 2:16:01
  Speaker 2: Not really. They're running out.
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 5: Of pitchers, okay, or at least the energy to pitch.
• 2:16:07
  Speaker 5: You understand? Now, I saw Kate Smith run out of energy.
• 2:16:12
  Speaker 5: Last night, and they took them out, thank God.
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 2: Well, what about me? It's Friday. I'm running out of energy.
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 2: They're going to take me out at 6 o'clock. Now, listen,
• 2:16:21
  Speaker 2: do it real quick for me. Tom Hamilton, end of
• 2:16:24
  Speaker 2: the game.
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 2:16:27
  Speaker 5: Tonight, end of the game. Strike three, call, ball game.
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  Speaker 2: I love it when he does that. I just love it.
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 2: Is that good?
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 5: Did I do okay, Ron?
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just love it. All right, man. Thanks. Appreciate it.
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 2: You're on the air. Hello.
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 27: Yeah, go Tribe. I feel like a kid again, Ron.
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 27: What a game last night. I'm going to have to
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 27: take a nap Saturday afternoon because that game ended at
• 2:16:53
  Speaker 27: 10 minutes to midnight last night.
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 2: You know... It was great.
• 2:16:59
  Speaker 27: I'm getting too old for this. But I love it.
• 2:17:02
  Speaker 27: I love it.
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 2: What a great weekend. Go Browns, too, man. The Browns
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 2: are having a decent year so far. I know.
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 27: We're in first place.
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 4: Can you believe that?
• 2:17:11
  Speaker 2: Four games, we're in first place. You can listen to
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 2: the Browns on our sister station, 93.3, The Wolf, Home
• 2:17:17
  Speaker 2: of Rovers, Morning Glory. And you can listen to the
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 2: Guardians right here Saturday.
• 2:17:21
  Speaker 27: I don't need aspirin or statins anymore. The blood pressure
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 27: is just pumping my veins clean.
• 2:17:28
  Speaker 2: Next thing you know, it's, oh, never mind. All right.
• 2:17:31
  Speaker 2: Have a great weekend in Rock Creek, Ohio. I appreciate
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 2: you listening and putting up with me. I appreciate you
• 2:17:37
  Speaker 2: putting up with me. I appreciate you listening. I appreciate
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 2: you calling. Ron Furb from the Kingdom of Mahoning, wishing
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 2: you a wonderful and terrific weekend. And we'll regroup, Lord willing,
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 2: as they say, Monday at 3 o'clock. on NewsRadio 570 WKBN,
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 2: the mighty 570 WKBN. 100 years we've been around. That's
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 2: a long time.