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Gordie Chiesa Hour on the Utah Jazz and the NBA, Cooper Flagg and Mavs in town, Trae Young traded, Winter Classic coming to Rice Eccles n... · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 1: Piece out.
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Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
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Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordon Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
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Speaker 2: NBA than any of us will ever know.
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Speaker 1: Let's not get crazy.
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Speaker 2: Come for the hoops talk, stay for his List of
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Speaker 2: the Day, My Listday. Here's oc with Basketball savon Gordon
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Speaker 2: Chiasa on the Sean O'Connell Show.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show. Welcome in Gordona Jaysa,
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Speaker 3: our NBA Guru. Conversations with Gordy brought to you by
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Speaker 3: our good friends at Aladdin Industries. Your Utah v Lux
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Speaker 3: Steeler Utah Jazz in action tonight against the Fighting Cooper
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Speaker 3: Flags of Dallas Mavericks coming in for a seven pm tip.
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Speaker 3: Tickets are available as low as thirteen dollars. I love
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Speaker 3: that tracker on ESPN. Gordia chia is a welcome man.
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Speaker 3: How are you, sir?
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Speaker 1: And I'm doing fine? Thank you.
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Speaker 3: Let's start there, Dallas visiting Utah. I think everyone's mostly
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Speaker 3: over the fact that you didn't get the star rookie
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Speaker 3: that Dallas now has, but a chance to see him
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Speaker 3: up close and personal, his team up close and personal,
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Speaker 3: oh very much.
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Speaker 4: Cooper Flag is going to be the rookie of the year,
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Speaker 4: with his former college teammate Konk Nipple finishing second and VJ.
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Speaker 4: Edgecomb should be third. And he is all advertised and
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Speaker 4: he's tremendous, unbelievable, talented guy. He's a generational ability and
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Speaker 4: what love about him is that he's a two way player.
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Speaker 4: He plays both offense and defense in transition. He's sensational
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Speaker 4: with those long strides, he's got those ball skills, and
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Speaker 4: what he does best is that he's able to play
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Speaker 4: up in the air and be acrobatic, but to be
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Speaker 4: under control and make a lot of really interesting simple
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Speaker 4: place And if I'm the Dallas Mavericks, he is absolutely
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Speaker 4: the future. It's at quick metrics with him. He's averaging
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Speaker 4: eighteen point nine points per game, six point five rebounds,
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Speaker 4: four point two assists, one point two blocks, shooting forty
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Speaker 4: seven point eight from the field goal. But he's the
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Speaker 4: one nemesis Sean. He's only shooting twenty seven point six
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Speaker 4: from threes, and so he's got improve that. And he's
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Speaker 4: a dynamic driver, velocity cutter, and most of all, Sean,
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Speaker 4: he's a nasty dunker nasty.
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Speaker 3: We see these young guys come in and obviously that's
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Speaker 3: a big part of your game when you're young and
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Speaker 3: you can elevate and you have a little bit of
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Speaker 3: size later on in the career, and there's plenty of
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Speaker 3: time between now and then for Cooper Flag later on
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Speaker 3: the career, you can't play that elevated game and you
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Speaker 3: have to adjust. Is he gonna have to adjust or
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Speaker 3: is he already there?
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Speaker 4: I'll have to adjust. No, right now, it is noting. Again,
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Speaker 4: he's only eighteen years old and hit him. The world
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Speaker 4: is perfect, you know, the world's my oyster to say
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Speaker 4: the least, and that he's going to be able to
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Speaker 4: be a high flyer for a long long time, minus
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Speaker 4: go for forbids, some serious injury and over the period
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Speaker 4: of time he'll adjust like all the great leapers that
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Speaker 4: are scorers and throughout their career. So Michael Jordan justed
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Speaker 4: at age was, say thirty something, and Kobe Bryant adjusted
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Speaker 4: also at age thirty something. Where they played they still
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Speaker 4: want airborne when they had to, but most of the
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Speaker 4: time they were able to play the game. I call
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Speaker 4: it gravity scoring, and he'll be good at it. But
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Speaker 4: in the meantime right now, Cooper Flag is sensational. The
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Speaker 4: Jazz beat the reference point. The Jazz did beat the
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Speaker 4: Mavericks the first time this year. There was the relations
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Speaker 4: game back only recently on December fifteenth, the Jazz beat
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Speaker 4: the Mavericks one, one thirty three in overtime, where Count
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Speaker 4: de George was sensational, and so was and so was
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Speaker 4: Larry Marketing, and so it should be a great game tonight.
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Speaker 4: Both teams are struggling, which is positive, and the Dallas
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Speaker 4: Mavericks of Dallas Mavericks are the record is fourteen and
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Speaker 4: twenty three and four and twelve at home. It's gonna
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Speaker 4: be on the road, probably on the road, and so
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Speaker 4: the Jazz are coming off a tough loss last night
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Speaker 4: in okay See. They probably got hold home last night
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Speaker 4: around roughly three o'clock in the morning, so there'll be
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Speaker 4: a little bit slow to start the game. The Mavericker
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Speaker 4: here last night staying in the hotel, they'll be ready.
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Speaker 3: To roll Sga. By the way, in that one forty
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Speaker 3: six points, six rebounds, six assists, the defending MVP not
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Speaker 3: slowing down a lot this year. And it's not that
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Speaker 3: the Jazz Stars played bad, but you just can't keep
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Speaker 3: up with somebody like that on a night like that.
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Speaker 1: Oh very much.
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Speaker 4: He was absolutely sensational. He was the reason why that
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Speaker 4: the Thunder were able to hold off the Utah Jazz.
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Speaker 4: And let's not forget Sean. Besides those forty six points
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Speaker 4: and forty two minutes, he had no turnovers. So Sean
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Speaker 4: the main guys trying to everyone's trying to stop in
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Speaker 4: the game. He has the pressure to get to make
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Speaker 4: plays all the time. He makes no mental errors or
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Speaker 4: physical errors. It was a brilliant performance and that's why
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Speaker 4: they're able to hold off the Jazz. Unfortunately for the Jazz,
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Speaker 4: they played hard, they played it, they played connected. They
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Speaker 4: really took it right to the Thunder. And there's been
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Speaker 4: so much talk about the about the Thunder that they're
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Speaker 4: a dynasty, the wild WARDI tia that that they're an
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Speaker 4: elite team and could be NBA champions. But they're not
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Speaker 4: a dynasty because it's so hard in this era because
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Speaker 4: of these luxury A tacks and re signing guys, and
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Speaker 4: also the other guys are good. So remember now, the
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Speaker 4: Thunder started out twenty four and one this year, and
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Speaker 4: that's what it was saying oh, they're a dynasty. They're
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Speaker 4: gonna be absolutely incredible.
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Speaker 3: Throwing that turm around so easily. You win one championship
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Speaker 3: and start a good regular season strong, Now you're a dynasty.
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Speaker 1: That's what happens. You know.
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Speaker 4: Again, it's it's social media, et cetera. So since then
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Speaker 4: they've been seven to six, including last night's game where
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Speaker 4: if if Wood should again, if Shaye doesn't make that
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Speaker 4: jump shot against good defense by Kant de George with
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Speaker 4: that that body, lean slash talent, then the Jazz win,
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Speaker 4: and then they were gonna say, oh, by the way,
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Speaker 4: there thunder to have a losing record in less thirteen games.
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Speaker 3: So I mean, look, if you're O Glahoma City, you
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Speaker 3: can't enjoy the idea that you went even into overtime. Yes,
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Speaker 3: a victory, but you went into overtime against a Jazz
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Speaker 3: team that is not supposed to be trying to win
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Speaker 3: that much this year. And give me the I know
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Speaker 3: that for the Utah Jazz it ends up being a loss,
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Speaker 3: another learning opportunity. The silver lining and all these losses
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Speaker 3: is you keep certain draft picks in your pocket, et cetera,
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Speaker 3: et cetera. But give me the opposite perspective. OKC is
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Speaker 3: a contending team. They could repeat as champions. They've got
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Speaker 3: the MVP. You don't want to play extra basketball against
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Speaker 3: a young team like this, Am I right?
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Speaker 1: Correct? You're exactly right.
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Speaker 4: And so with that said that, the Jazz were highly
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Speaker 4: motivated and bounce seated to say the least, and the
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Speaker 4: Thunder they were playing like it's the middle of March,
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Speaker 4: where let's get to the playoffs again for the last
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Speaker 4: thirteen games, and it's new to them where suddenly everyone's
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Speaker 4: coming at them with their a game. Before that, there
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Speaker 4: were the teams that there were the team that was
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Speaker 4: going after the opposition as far as trying to bite,
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Speaker 4: fight and claw to show that hey guys, we can
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Speaker 4: play right now. So now they're the ones that everybody's
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Speaker 4: bringing all their things. So, for example, last night, the
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Speaker 4: Jazz punched the Thunder in the face on the boards
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Speaker 4: sixty five rebounds to fifty one. And that's led by
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Speaker 4: the guy that we all love to always talk about,
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Speaker 4: Yusuf Nurkrie the Bosian beasts through his body around the
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Speaker 4: lane the whole time he was hitting people. He started
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Speaker 4: hitting everybody, including people in the front row to start
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Speaker 4: and that's his game. You gotta love him the way
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Speaker 4: he plays, and that he helps the jazz I called
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Speaker 4: Sean chaos in the lane.
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Speaker 1: He fouls his own.
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Speaker 4: Teammate sometimes, you know, as far as going for the ball.
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Speaker 4: But with that said, he's got fifteen points and fifteen rebounds,
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Speaker 4: and until he got in foul trouble that he did
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Speaker 4: a good job of taking taking some of the play
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Speaker 4: of Chet hung grim Yeah, hog him. I got to
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Speaker 4: score twenty three points, I get it. But he goes
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Speaker 4: after that, he was in foul trouble and he was ready.
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Speaker 4: He ready fouled that with six fouls. And you know
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Speaker 4: with Yusef Nurkice, let's say, Sean, he gets all worth.
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Speaker 4: His six fouls are all worthy? Is that it's not
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Speaker 4: like a cheap foul. He's found you like the truer
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Speaker 4: to stop two points.
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Speaker 3: If you were coaching chet Holme Grin, would you still
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Speaker 3: try to put more weight on that guy or are
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Speaker 3: we just accepting the fact that he's a slim reaper
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Speaker 3: for the rest of his career.
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Speaker 4: I think he's a slim reaper the rest of his career. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: I mean I try to make him stronger as far
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Speaker 4: as in his legs, his legs strength, but upper body
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Speaker 4: he's tall and slender and he's agile, and so it's
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Speaker 4: hard to do that. Some people are like that. And
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Speaker 4: you know, again, I'm just I'm not a scientist or
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Speaker 4: a doctor or a dietitian. I'm assuming that he's a
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Speaker 4: he's got a you know, hard he's got really a
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Speaker 4: fun problem. It's a lot of things and never gains weight. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: that's a fun problem. That was thoroughballa when we coach
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Speaker 4: at Thoroughbilly. Thoroughbilly. Think about Thoroughblly even now at eight sixty.
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Speaker 4: You see there was born in sixty one. Okay, throw
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Speaker 4: right now, sixty four years young. His body's slender, and
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Speaker 4: we used to say that Threll keep eating eating, eating
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Speaker 4: all these calories, it didn't matter. His body fat was like,
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Speaker 4: I'm not exaggerating, like a one percent.
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Speaker 3: That's crazy. Yeah, yeah, he still looks great.
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Speaker 1: He looks great.
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Speaker 4: No, and that so that's chet hungrim Again, I'm not
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Speaker 4: new nutritionist, Sophia. If I'm talking out of out of
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Speaker 4: school police, I'm gonna stop. But just generally speaking as
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Speaker 4: a layman, that's what happens. But he's but again, he's
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Speaker 4: he's skilled. So it happens with Chenn Hulgrim type. Don't
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Speaker 4: put in positions where he has to show his lack
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Speaker 4: of physicality. Put him in a position on the court
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Speaker 4: where he can show his skill set of going around
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Speaker 4: somebody up and over. Now use of a noirkage, He's
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Speaker 4: not gonna cooperate. He's gonna try to make him have
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Speaker 4: to have to have his lack of strength to play
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Speaker 4: against Yrkage in the lane. And he did most of
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Speaker 4: the game, but then Jogi fouled out, and then Chow's
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Speaker 4: able to roam the baseline free and by the Jazz
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Speaker 4: playing switch defense, Hokman had an advantageous situation where directs
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Speaker 4: and brent Sasba to put a body on chet Humgrim
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Speaker 4: where it's a lent situation, and lent beats what lack
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Speaker 4: of or just moderate strength.
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Speaker 3: Gordy Chase is our guest here in studio. We've got
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Speaker 3: him for another forty five minutes or so before we
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Speaker 3: take a break. You and I have talked about this
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Speaker 3: a lot when we're talking about a young jazz team.
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Speaker 3: That is, you know they're in the situation they're in.
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Speaker 3: There's not an expected playoff run. There's some portion of
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Speaker 3: the fan base and maybe even the front office that
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Speaker 3: wants to preserve draft picks and stuff. But these games,
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Speaker 3: like the one tonight, you're going against another team that's
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Speaker 3: kind of in that similar situation. They're building back. It's
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Speaker 3: going to take a couple of years for them. I
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Speaker 3: don't know if the right way to say it is
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Speaker 3: that they're on your level. But these games we've talked
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Speaker 3: about being more more important than when you're going up
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Speaker 3: against Okay, see, as important as that is to test
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Speaker 3: yourself against the best in the league, you learn a
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Speaker 3: lot more when you're going up against someone who's on
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Speaker 3: your same level. Are you progressing as fast as they're progressing?
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Speaker 3: If they're gonna be good in three years, can you
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Speaker 3: stay ahead of that pace, et cetera. So how does
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Speaker 3: the Jazz prove tonight that they're in the right spot there.
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Speaker 4: When by respecting your opponent, the Jazz get in trouble
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Speaker 4: just generally speaking, early in the game when they usually
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Speaker 4: are down unfortunately, so they've got to start out with
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Speaker 4: a much higher urgency rate as far as guarding. So
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Speaker 4: the question is always I always talk about this, Sean,
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Speaker 4: is that Cooper flag is going to be in the
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Speaker 4: Western Conference for over the next hopefully, and here's their
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Speaker 4: world fifteen years, so which means that the Jets have
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Speaker 4: to find somebody to be able to defend him and
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Speaker 4: slow him down. So last game is going against the
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Speaker 4: Jazz forty two points, and so they need someone like
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Speaker 4: say Philipowski type people to try to get in that game.
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Speaker 4: And their sole purpose is to watch stay in front
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Speaker 4: of him and make him shoot a tough shot over them.
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Speaker 4: So these games do matter. And also just this is
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Speaker 4: a standpoint right now in the present tense. Today, Jess
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Speaker 4: have lost five games in a row. So, Sean, that's
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Speaker 4: an awful feeling. You lose five games in a row,
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Speaker 4: you lose in overtime last night, you get the house
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Speaker 4: at three o'clock this morning, it was a little bit snow.
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Speaker 4: Wherever you live right now, there's some snow. And by
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Speaker 4: the way, I'm back in the arena by four p
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Speaker 4: forty five today to play another game. And so if
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Speaker 4: we're going to be tired, let's be tired of what losing.
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Speaker 4: See you're tired of losing, Sean, I lived that life
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Speaker 4: for thirty six years, and so I know what it's like.
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Speaker 4: You know to you're not sure what date is right now?
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Speaker 4: Over playing the Maps tonight, Okay, let's win.
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Speaker 3: And then after the MAVs this weekend, you've got the.
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Speaker 4: Horn Hornets, right, good, another young team that's that's trying
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Speaker 4: to be like the Jazz.
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Speaker 1: So it's good.
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Speaker 4: The Jazz have back to back games where players are
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Speaker 4: going to challenge them, and the Jazz have good players
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Speaker 4: also caant Dee George, who's gonna get votes with some
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Speaker 4: of the most improved players in the NBA. And so
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Speaker 4: what they want to do is be the aggressor early
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Speaker 4: take to take the play right to them and then
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Speaker 4: defensively really try to lock down. Least point about this
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Speaker 4: quickly is that they lost less than overtime, showing they
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Speaker 4: committed twenty turnovers.
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Speaker 1: Just think about it.
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Speaker 4: But like in the NFL shown having three deceptions and
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Speaker 4: two fumbles in the red zone.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're not gonna win.
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Speaker 4: That not gonna win, even though you do play hard
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Speaker 4: and there's a lot of good things happening during the game.
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Speaker 4: So if you've got to not turn that ball over,
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Speaker 4: you can't set a legal screens, you can't have offensive
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Speaker 4: elbow fouls in the guy's face.
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Speaker 1: It's a foul.
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Speaker 4: And so those are the things why lesser teams lose
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Speaker 4: because they beat themselves.
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Speaker 3: All right, Like I said, we got Gordy for plenty
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Speaker 3: of time. Today, we'll take a quick one here, we'll
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Speaker 3: come back. We'll zoom out a little bit, not just
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Speaker 3: talking about the jazz, but everything that's going on in
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Speaker 3: the NBA. So the Sean will Connall Show on Utah's
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Speaker 3: number one Sports Talk ESPN seven ninety two one. Ff,
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Speaker 3: let me tell you, I'll give him what you do.
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Speaker 2: You're tuned to the Sean O'Connell Show for the Murdoch
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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Shawn O'Connell Show. Gordy Chase is
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Speaker 3: here in studio with us, brought to you by a
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Speaker 3: Laddin Industries or Utah de Lux Steeler. And look, we're
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Speaker 3: gonna jump back into the NBA. I promise. We got
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Speaker 3: a short segment here and Gordy when we went to break,
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Speaker 3: he said, we have to talk about the stinking Jets.
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Speaker 3: Gordy's a Jets fan. A curse that has followed you
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Speaker 3: for decades now, Gordy.
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Speaker 1: Sixty years.
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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm seventy five, so sean maybe earlier, well sixty
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Speaker 4: something years.
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Speaker 3: You would think in those six decades that you had
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Speaker 3: seen everything that you had already experienced, all the highs
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Speaker 3: and the lows that being a sports fan can bring you.
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Speaker 3: But twenty twenty five brought us something that even you
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Speaker 3: with that long standing fanom have never seen from the
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Speaker 3: New York Jets or from any team.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so show now we're talking spontaneously about just certain
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Speaker 4: teams and coaches, and it involves the NBA and also
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Speaker 4: the NFL. Definitely in the NFL, which is a team sport.
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Speaker 4: So lest you had, the New York Jets did not
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Speaker 4: have an interception by any player on the field the
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Speaker 4: whole season, I'll say at again, not one interception by
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Speaker 4: the Jets players, meaning the team, during the whole season.
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Speaker 4: The less time it happened was nineteen thirty three.
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Speaker 3: So they started tracking interceptions in the NFL in nineteen
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Speaker 3: thirty three. And never ever, ever has a team gone
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Speaker 3: through an entire season without accidentally recording an interception. A
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Speaker 3: ball gets tipped, quarterback gets sapped, falls into a defensive
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Speaker 3: lineman's lap, whatever. Never before has it happened that a
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Speaker 3: team does not record an interception and your Jets manage
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Speaker 3: that today, correct.
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Speaker 4: And so yeah, even myself, I'm a crazy fan. So
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Speaker 4: I know there's so many lovable Jazz fans and I'm
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Speaker 4: one of them in that I worked for them for
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Speaker 4: many years. Is that that's the beauty of being a fan,
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Speaker 4: that you suffer like you're You're suffered throughout things, and
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Speaker 4: a good part though when you suffer, there's always the
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Speaker 4: ray of hope and that makes yourself a fan. And
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Speaker 4: that's what in Jazz basketball, there's a there's definitely ray
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Speaker 4: of hope with development of Cante George and all the
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Speaker 4: other young guys that the Jazz have Will also Walton
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Speaker 4: Clayton Junior, and it's everyone else in general, but in
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Speaker 4: football right now, because this week's the showing. This week
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Speaker 4: is wild Card weekend in the NFL, and there's so
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Speaker 4: many amazing matchups and showing. I love the forty nine,
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Speaker 4: so do you. And they're gonna have a tough get
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Speaker 4: also this weekend, and then the mother of bull games
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Speaker 4: is gonna be I'm assuming the Packers and.
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Speaker 1: The Bears.
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Speaker 3: I looked it up just because I wanted to know
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Speaker 3: was there a team in college football this year that
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Speaker 3: didn't record any interceptions. Actually, a Utah Big twelve opponent
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Speaker 3: was dead last in the country. And how many interceptions
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Speaker 3: only two for Cincinnati. But even when you expand like
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Speaker 3: the NFL has got thirty two teams whatever, even when
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Speaker 3: you expand that to one hundred and thirty six teams,
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Speaker 3: nobody manages except for the Jets, to fail in getting
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Speaker 3: an interception.
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Speaker 4: It's almost really, it's almost impossible. And they say, no,
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Speaker 4: nothing's impossible. This is this is impossible. I can't describe
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Speaker 4: the words right now. Good think about it. In every sport,
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Speaker 4: you want to have defensive we call them playmakers. So
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Speaker 4: you're in the NFL, you're a d back or of safety.
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Speaker 4: Early eyes. You break to the ball before it happens.
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Speaker 4: You spy, You spy the quarterback. In basketball, it's the
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Speaker 4: same thing. You break to the ball, you're around the ball.
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Speaker 4: The guy makes a spin dribble, and you're you're at
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Speaker 4: the You're a you're a nail defensive player, which means
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Speaker 4: why you're right at the middle of the court. Guy
18:18
Speaker 4: makes a spin dribble, you're right there to pick his pocket.
18:21
Speaker 4: Early ice coming down the floor. He's looking at a
18:24
Speaker 4: certain guy cutting and you back up in the coverage
18:26
Speaker 4: and you have your hands high.
18:28
Speaker 1: Most times in your hands are high. Only good things happen.
18:31
Speaker 3: All right, Because we're off basketball for just a second,
18:34
Speaker 3: and I promise, if you're listening, we're going to get
18:36
Speaker 3: back on basketball after we take a break. But the
18:39
Speaker 3: announcement came down yesterday, Ryan Smith, the NHL, the Utah Mammoth.
18:44
Speaker 3: They're bringing the Outdoor Game, The Winner Classic to Rice
18:48
Speaker 3: Ecles Stadium. This is the showcase event aside from the
18:52
Speaker 3: Stanley Cup Playoffs. This is the NHL's like premier thing.
18:55
Speaker 3: And in the third year of the franchise's existence, we
18:59
Speaker 3: get that because of the relationship that the Smith family
19:03
Speaker 3: has put together with the NHL, because of the fan support,
19:06
Speaker 3: because of the reputation that this franchise and its players
19:10
Speaker 3: have developed around the NHL. It's gonna be amazing. Tell
19:15
Speaker 3: me what it means, Gordy. You've been around pro sports
19:18
Speaker 3: for the longest and when your city, your team gets
19:22
Speaker 3: to host one of these events, what does it do.
19:25
Speaker 4: It really uplifts the whole community, and it connects the
19:27
Speaker 4: NHL with Salt Lake City being a major player in
19:31
Speaker 4: it and an outdoor. There's nothing like it. Should I
19:34
Speaker 4: believe they played recently at Fenway Park.
19:37
Speaker 3: They've done it at Fenway, they did the one this
19:39
Speaker 3: year was in Miami. They did it like in the
19:43
Speaker 3: Tropics at the Marlins Stadium. Yeah, they let the Panthers
19:49
Speaker 3: play outdoors, and I mean somehow managed to keep the
19:51
Speaker 3: ice frozen.
19:52
Speaker 4: And also what does is that it's it's like old
19:55
Speaker 4: schools shown. It's like the the Canadians, you know Canadians
19:59
Speaker 4: and the Flying Fins. As far as all these incredible
20:03
Speaker 4: athletes that are skaters and scores in the NHL. It
20:06
Speaker 4: will be here. It's going to be happening, absolutely, and
20:10
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to it. Should I hope, hope you
20:12
Speaker 4: not can go together? Let's do it, Gordy.
20:14
Speaker 2: Uh.
20:15
Speaker 3: The NBA has played showcase outdoor games. Could something like
20:21
Speaker 3: this be successful in the NBA? I mean there's all
20:23
Speaker 3: these iconic parks. I don't know how you turn a
20:26
Speaker 3: real NBA game into like a Rucker Park event or
20:29
Speaker 3: something like that. But you know we've seen college basketball
20:32
Speaker 3: games played on aircraft carriers and things like that. Could
20:36
Speaker 3: the NBA embrace this as like a special event once
20:40
Speaker 3: a year type thing.
20:41
Speaker 4: Yes, The answer is yes, they could would have to
20:43
Speaker 4: be obviously in warmer weather, and they had played some Yeah,
20:47
Speaker 4: they they've played some games outdoors though, showing in preseason
20:50
Speaker 4: and Palm Springs.
20:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Indian Wells Tennis Guard exactly right, they have.
20:55
Speaker 3: They did that. The Phoenix Suns hosted three preseason games
20:59
Speaker 3: at Indian Els in two thousand and eight, two thousand
21:02
Speaker 3: and nine, twenty ten, and the WNBA has played one
21:07
Speaker 3: outdoor regular season game back in two thousand and eight.
21:10
Speaker 3: In nineteen seventy two, the first NBA outdoor game was
21:14
Speaker 3: a preseason matchup. They did it in Puerto Rico, Phoenix
21:17
Speaker 3: Suns Milwaukee Bucks. Do you remember that?
21:19
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I'm sure it. It happened.
21:21
Speaker 4: So one time I coached in for the Jazz In
21:24
Speaker 4: assembleague game in Portland and an outdoor court that we
21:27
Speaker 4: played an outdoor game, and that was the game I
21:29
Speaker 4: remember mostly about it. We won the game and Rookie
21:31
Speaker 4: Blue Edwards got into a fight during the game, so
21:34
Speaker 4: it was a mayhow so rookie it was back in
21:37
Speaker 4: nineteen was say ninety nineteen ninety Blue Edwards got into
21:41
Speaker 4: a fight with Dre Papatchovitch.
21:44
Speaker 3: Oh wow.
21:45
Speaker 4: He got into a fight with him and it was
21:48
Speaker 4: a meleem and it was outdoor. It was an outdoor court.
21:50
Speaker 4: It was like a festival in Portland, and so we
21:54
Speaker 4: had to break up a fight that was outdoors.
21:56
Speaker 3: Now, one of the things that the NHL players seemed
21:59
Speaker 3: to embrace, like and the fans as well, about this
22:01
Speaker 3: game is the conditions are strange, a little bit ugly sometimes.
22:06
Speaker 3: Logan Cooley was up at the press conference yesterday and
22:09
Speaker 3: he actually said he wanted it to be bad ice.
22:12
Speaker 3: He wanted it to be like rough ice and slushy
22:14
Speaker 3: and things like that, because a lot of these guys
22:17
Speaker 3: came up skating on like less than ideal you know,
22:20
Speaker 3: your backyard, your pond, your local park, that kind of thing,
22:24
Speaker 3: and there's nostalgia to it. Now, you wouldn't want to
22:27
Speaker 3: do it every single game, but why not for a
22:29
Speaker 3: game in the NBA. Obviously an outdoor game would present
22:33
Speaker 3: a lot of those same complications. A little bit of
22:35
Speaker 3: rain on a hardwood floor disastrous, too slippery, too crazy
22:41
Speaker 3: if you're playing on blacktop, maybe not as big of
22:43
Speaker 3: a deal with things like that. So with NBA players,
22:46
Speaker 3: for one game, of year. Would they embrace the less
22:49
Speaker 3: than ideal conditions? I mean, we've seen all these things
22:52
Speaker 3: where guys are like Steph Curry dribbles around the floor
22:55
Speaker 3: to make sure there's no dead spots and stuff like that.
22:58
Speaker 3: They're used to perfection. Would they embrace for one day
23:02
Speaker 3: something outside of perfection.
23:07
Speaker 4: No, because of the player's union. Sure, that's the reason why.
23:12
Speaker 4: And when you're paying Victor Gren beyondber one hundred million
23:15
Speaker 4: dollars eventually per year, you don't want to have that
23:18
Speaker 4: risk because you're playing on blacktop. So that's the reason
23:21
Speaker 4: why it would be highly unlikely. As far as a
23:25
Speaker 4: regular season game, absolutely, unfortunately. But in NHL it's all
23:29
Speaker 4: part of it. And the the excuse me NFL playing
23:33
Speaker 4: outdoors is absolutely playing in cold weather. You know, Buffalo Bills,
23:37
Speaker 4: they do it all the time, the last Man, but
23:39
Speaker 4: it starts stowing a buffalo in July.
23:41
Speaker 3: Actually, the very last event that the PFL did before
23:45
Speaker 3: I became part of the PFL was an outdoor venue
23:49
Speaker 3: like down in South Florida, and it was so muggy
23:54
Speaker 3: and so rainy that like the canvas was a little slippery,
23:58
Speaker 3: and it was a massive hazard for guys This is
24:00
Speaker 3: before the new ownership took over and the organization became
24:04
Speaker 3: what it is now, the one that I'm working for,
24:07
Speaker 3: And people were like, I mean, it's it's an apocryphal story.
24:11
Speaker 3: Like the guys that were there, the announcers that were there,
24:13
Speaker 3: were just like it was ridiculous because a little like
24:17
Speaker 3: a little rain on a on a canvas, fine, a
24:20
Speaker 3: little rain on the plastic logos that cover the canvas,
24:25
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden it's a slipping slide and
24:27
Speaker 3: you got guys that they're trying to fight each other,
24:29
Speaker 3: losing their footing and stuff. So yeah, I love the
24:32
Speaker 3: outdoor events. I really do. Typical indoor sports being played
24:36
Speaker 3: outdoors awesome, but it can get crazy. James here, Saint George. Guy,
24:42
Speaker 3: we did some fights, some local fights. One of my
24:44
Speaker 3: I was cornering one of my buddies out at what's
24:47
Speaker 3: the what's the reservoir that's out by in Washington County,
24:51
Speaker 3: San Hollo, San Hollo. Yeah, we did some fights out
24:54
Speaker 3: there at San Hollo, like on the shore of San Hollo.
24:58
Speaker 3: Probably look pretty cool, look amazing. Now Sand Hollow is
25:01
Speaker 3: aptly named. There's sand everywhere down there, this beautiful coral
25:07
Speaker 3: colored sand, right, Yeah, stuff is great until it's windy
25:13
Speaker 3: and it's blowing into a cage and blowing into the
25:17
Speaker 3: eyes of the fight teams. It was windy, and people
25:22
Speaker 3: have been legitimate like a windstorm whipping up sand and
25:26
Speaker 3: making the canvas all gritty and stuff. So oh man.
25:29
Speaker 3: So look, NHL players, they kind of want it that
25:31
Speaker 3: way because it's already cold and icy and whatever. But
25:36
Speaker 3: in the NBA, I don't think we're gonna get well.
25:37
Speaker 5: And and Gordy brings up a good point about NFL too,
25:41
Speaker 5: and football fans love the sloppy yeah once or twice
25:45
Speaker 5: a year, right, especially that the ice Bowl type playoff game.
25:49
Speaker 3: Let's let's do it.
25:50
Speaker 5: NBA now a little too little, too much of a
25:55
Speaker 5: little too much perfectionist for that.
25:57
Speaker 3: I'm actually really fascinated by, Uh, the high level you
26:00
Speaker 3: get to in sport, the less willing you are to
26:05
Speaker 3: deal with some of the variables in a lot of cases,
26:07
Speaker 3: Like I believe Gordy when he says, no, the NBA
26:09
Speaker 3: is not going to do that. They're not gonna play
26:11
Speaker 3: even a single black top game whatever. I mean. European
26:17
Speaker 3: soccer players, look at what goes on in the MLS
26:19
Speaker 3: where guys have to play half their games on turf,
26:21
Speaker 3: and they're like, absolutely not, no shot, I would ever
26:25
Speaker 3: play high level soccer, Professional soccer, World Cup soccer on
26:29
Speaker 3: a turf field. Like to them, it is sacrilegious. Never
26:36
Speaker 3: mind the fact like that, you know, people think that
26:38
Speaker 3: certain injuries are related to certain turf conditions and things
26:41
Speaker 3: like that, but high high level guys they're just like, no, no,
26:46
Speaker 3: I won't do that. In the NFL, you're starting to
26:48
Speaker 3: hear a lot more of this ban the turf fields.
26:52
Speaker 3: Every time someone tears an acl or hurts an achilles
26:54
Speaker 3: or whatever, you get ten former players taking to their
26:58
Speaker 3: Twitter and say, get rid of turf fields. This is
27:00
Speaker 3: a multi multi billion dollar industry. Make them all grass
27:04
Speaker 3: and then of course when the grass is bad, then
27:06
Speaker 3: they're mad that it's not a turf field. But anyway,
27:10
Speaker 3: it's really interesting how playoff surfaces, playing surfaces matter except
27:16
Speaker 3: NHL players. For one game, they want to play out
27:18
Speaker 3: doors and they want it to be a little bit ugly.
27:20
Speaker 3: Winter Classic is coming to Utah. We got to get
27:22
Speaker 3: back into the NBA discussion. Gordy Chiers is here. He's
27:25
Speaker 3: got his list still to come plenty left to talk
27:27
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Speaker 3: us for an hour today. We got about twenty more
28:00
Speaker 3: minutes with Gordy. Then we'll get to the Daily Dump,
28:02
Speaker 3: a wild polpourri of stories, including an NFL conspiracy theory
28:07
Speaker 3: in nineteen minutes. I'm very much looking forward to this
28:10
Speaker 3: because it involves my niners, Gordy. There was a trade
28:15
Speaker 3: yesterday in the NBA, and not an insignificant one. Spence
28:18
Speaker 3: Checkets was joking that for the first time ever, someone
28:22
Speaker 3: listed their preferred trade destination as the Washington Wizards because
28:25
Speaker 3: that's where Trey Young wanted to be, and that's what happened.
28:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, very much yesterday for the listeners to reinforced things
28:32
Speaker 4: that Tray Young who is an All Star player drafted
28:36
Speaker 4: by the Atlantahawks's original team, was traded to the Washington Wizards,
28:40
Speaker 4: where he sought it out. And what that did. What
28:43
Speaker 4: that does, It gives the Wizards absolutely a scoring point
28:48
Speaker 4: guard that can also assist and he wants to be
28:52
Speaker 4: there in Washington, and his contract is not modest, but
28:57
Speaker 4: it's certainty. It's this year plus now next year. So
29:01
Speaker 4: even it doesn't work out for the Wizards is that
29:03
Speaker 4: they know that they only have them for basically a
29:05
Speaker 4: year and three quarters. So that's that was part of
29:08
Speaker 4: it and that we make so interesting the trade is
29:12
Speaker 4: that they're both teams in the same division, so it's
29:14
Speaker 4: really it's really interesting that both teams in the same
29:18
Speaker 4: division made a trade. The Wizards started out really unbelievable slow.
29:22
Speaker 4: They started at three and twenty and now the last
29:25
Speaker 4: twelve games are seven and five. And so the Wizards
29:28
Speaker 4: is that they've had seven straight losing seasons, so since
29:33
Speaker 4: from twenty eighteen twenty twenty five, they've had a losing
29:38
Speaker 4: season seasons, so they know that they've got to try
29:41
Speaker 4: to do something to improve at least show the fan
29:44
Speaker 4: base that they're getting better.
29:46
Speaker 1: That's part of it. That's the reason why I did that.
29:48
Speaker 4: Now, from the Atlanta Hawk's point of view, it wasn't
29:52
Speaker 4: working out with Trey Young. They had him there, it wasn't.
29:55
Speaker 4: It's contra. They then that they've been up and down.
29:58
Speaker 4: As far as we love them, we don't like them.
30:01
Speaker 4: They move them on. So now they get they get
30:04
Speaker 4: Jjy McCollum on a one year contract. It makes thirty
30:07
Speaker 4: thirty point six million. He's a twenty point scorer aged
30:11
Speaker 4: thirty four, thirteenth season in the NBA. Again the certainty
30:16
Speaker 4: that probably won't be there after this season, so they
30:19
Speaker 4: get his money for next year as far as to
30:22
Speaker 4: do over, but they did add Corey kesper former Gonzaga
30:25
Speaker 4: player thirty nine point five percent from threes. His contract,
30:29
Speaker 4: again is modest. It's a middle of his contract, four years,
30:33
Speaker 4: fifty four million, so it's roughly it's roughly twelve thirteen
30:36
Speaker 4: million dollars a year.
30:38
Speaker 1: So it's doable.
30:39
Speaker 4: Now that the Hawk's point of view, they haven't made
30:41
Speaker 4: the playoffs in two years since they're twenty twenty three,
30:45
Speaker 4: and that they have a guest of young tarrent, young
30:48
Speaker 4: talented performers, and they're saying without saying it that they
30:52
Speaker 4: want to move off, move on from Trey Young because
30:55
Speaker 4: now their new star player is Jalen Johnson, who's very good,
30:58
Speaker 4: who should be voted the most improved player in the
31:01
Speaker 4: NBA this year. And Dyson Daniels, Zachary Ushat say they
31:05
Speaker 4: have and also they have a lot of other young
31:08
Speaker 4: players former jasman, Nicole, Alexander Walker, and so they did
31:13
Speaker 4: that because they think that they have other young talented
31:17
Speaker 4: people that they want to showcase as they go forward.
31:21
Speaker 4: So the trade makes sense for boat teams. Now, what
31:24
Speaker 4: about some other Here's some other guys that could be
31:26
Speaker 4: in the trading as far as and the deadline member
31:29
Speaker 4: now is February fifth, so it's roughly a month from now.
31:33
Speaker 4: Here's some guys are also could be traded from the Warriors,
31:37
Speaker 4: Johnathan Kaminga from the Nets, Michael Porter Jr. From the Kings,
31:42
Speaker 4: Zach Levine from the Bucks, former Utah player Kyle Kuzma
31:47
Speaker 4: playing tonight and Delta center, Clay Thompson from the MAVs,
31:51
Speaker 4: Nick Clayton from the from the Nets, Daniel Gefford playing
31:56
Speaker 4: tonight Delta center from the from the MAVs. Nicol the
32:00
Speaker 4: Kola Vousvich from the Bulls could be traded. Anthony Davis, Yes,
32:06
Speaker 4: could be traded to an elite team. Possibly also in
32:10
Speaker 4: Jazz basketball, it's possible showing that Jazz are trying to
32:14
Speaker 4: make a trade future out future cast out involving Kyle Anderson,
32:19
Speaker 4: George Niyang. Last two names. I'm gonna mention everybody wants
32:23
Speaker 4: Clint Capella if I'm the bosson Celtics. They've overachieved. There's
32:26
Speaker 4: no Jason Tatum, they have no centers. If I'm if,
32:29
Speaker 4: I'm if I'm the Celtics, I'm trying to get my team.
32:33
Speaker 4: Clint Capella, who's on a Rouston Rockets right now, playing
32:37
Speaker 4: playing behind Chagoon and playing behind Steven Adams. He hardly plays.
32:41
Speaker 4: But on the Celty would play. And the least name
32:43
Speaker 4: would be is going to be Jeremiah Grant from the
32:46
Speaker 4: Port and Trailblazers. These guys are all in play as
32:50
Speaker 4: far as either moving their contracts or teams want them
32:54
Speaker 4: to come off the bench, and a few guys as
32:56
Speaker 4: far as starting.
32:58
Speaker 3: Giannis's name is always involved with trade rumors and he
33:02
Speaker 3: was asked about it. He said, I would never demand
33:04
Speaker 3: a trade. It's not my nature. I'm not the one
33:06
Speaker 3: in charge. His comments reflect a really interesting, I would say,
33:12
Speaker 3: almost refreshing mindset, and he was like, I'm my job
33:18
Speaker 3: is to play basketball. I'm an employee. Do you believe
33:22
Speaker 3: Jannis when he says I would never demand a trade.
33:26
Speaker 4: No? No, His agent is dope. Sure, yeah, saying the
33:31
Speaker 4: right things. I get it, which I understand, and that
33:33
Speaker 4: he did. He respects the process, but his agent. Your
33:37
Speaker 4: job as an agent is to do it's best for
33:39
Speaker 4: my client. He Jiannis is an elite player. He gets
33:43
Speaker 4: exposed in the playoffs by his lack of shooting, not
33:47
Speaker 4: his scoring. I know he's an average thirty three game.
33:49
Speaker 4: I get it, eleven rebounds, I understand it, and get
33:52
Speaker 4: a lot of assist But when it's crunch time showing
33:55
Speaker 4: he can't make a foul shot historically, and the defense
33:59
Speaker 4: backs off him and desn to shoot that shot. Hey,
34:02
Speaker 4: Giannisi's contract this year fifty four point one million, next
34:06
Speaker 4: year fifty eight point four twenty seven to twenty eight
34:09
Speaker 4: sixty two point seven million. So they've got to find
34:12
Speaker 4: a team or trading partners teams to fitish contract in.
34:17
Speaker 4: So it's got to be you got to move like
34:19
Speaker 4: other star players to involve, So it's unlikely. Last point
34:23
Speaker 4: about that in a trading deadline, everybody's talking, but only
34:27
Speaker 4: one thirty the teams a wide actively trading.
34:30
Speaker 3: Uh.
34:31
Speaker 4: The week of the NBA Draft in the third week
34:34
Speaker 4: of June, everyone's trying to trade. Everybody's trying to trade
34:37
Speaker 4: to trade up in the draft, which involves players presently
34:40
Speaker 4: on your roster, and in July first the trade could
34:43
Speaker 4: be as far as go through actively after that. So
34:47
Speaker 4: right now it's only one thirty teams are trying to trade.
34:50
Speaker 3: In general. Did you I don't like as such a
34:55
Speaker 3: simple word for it, but did you like in season
34:58
Speaker 3: trades when you coaching?
35:02
Speaker 4: No, No, I don't, because you know it really it
35:06
Speaker 4: uproots you as far as the player, but also as
35:09
Speaker 4: far as your team. Is that generally speaking, the better
35:15
Speaker 4: teams don't make in season trades.
35:19
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't.
35:21
Speaker 4: They might add a player where a guy's lesser of
35:24
Speaker 4: his contract and he's a buyout option and the agent
35:28
Speaker 4: is very powerful, and suddenly that team has a roster
35:32
Speaker 4: spot purposely, and so that's the reason why that teams
35:35
Speaker 4: do that, where they they wait. The better teams wait
35:39
Speaker 4: and wait and wait until somebody has an opening roster spot.
35:43
Speaker 4: So example, here's some of the teams right now sean
35:46
Speaker 4: have opened roster spot and most of them are playoff
35:49
Speaker 4: teams Atlanta, Boston, Cleveland, Miami, New York, Orlando, Philadelphia, Toronto
36:00
Speaker 4: in the East. In the West, Denver, Houston, Clippers, Lakers, Minnesota,
36:08
Speaker 4: and Phoenix. Meaning what that those teams have an open
36:12
Speaker 4: roster spot only fourteen under the contract because they know
36:15
Speaker 4: that somebody might be out there, they're looking at certain
36:18
Speaker 4: players the lesser of the contract and that are out there.
36:21
Speaker 4: So for example, it's possible shown that CJ. McCollum got
36:25
Speaker 4: traded yesterday to Atlanta Hawks, but his lesser of his
36:29
Speaker 4: contracts up, and that they his agent might ax them
36:33
Speaker 4: the Atlanta Hawks please have a buy out of my
36:37
Speaker 4: client because he can get a better deal by a
36:40
Speaker 4: team that needs a point guard. Dramatically because someone just
36:43
Speaker 4: got hurt this last month. So in the NBA shown,
36:47
Speaker 4: there's so many moving parts.
36:51
Speaker 3: I can't imagine how difficult it is to monitor who's
36:54
Speaker 3: available who you want to be available your own roster.
36:57
Speaker 3: I guess that's why the gms make the big bucks.
36:59
Speaker 4: And also no more importantly, Besides that is that it's
37:03
Speaker 4: the pro personnel people that their sole job is to
37:06
Speaker 4: monitor that and be head of the game. As I
37:09
Speaker 4: always say, don't tell me when someone's good after the good,
37:12
Speaker 4: tell me why a guy's going to be good on
37:14
Speaker 4: your team. And the reason why is that it's a fit.
37:18
Speaker 4: Often players are on the wrong team. So Courry Kispert,
37:21
Speaker 4: for example from Gonzaga, he's a good shooter that he's
37:25
Speaker 4: limited as far as his ball skills, but if you
37:27
Speaker 4: give him a screen, he can make an open jump shot.
37:30
Speaker 4: And defensively, even though he's a half step slow, he
37:33
Speaker 4: does try to compete, and so on a team that
37:37
Speaker 4: executes as far as offensively, he's a better fit. And
37:41
Speaker 4: with the Atlanta Hawks, they try to execute. The Delenta Hawks,
37:44
Speaker 4: for example, sean first in the NBA and assist, so
37:48
Speaker 4: that tells you they move the ball. And in Jazz basketball,
37:51
Speaker 4: the Jazz are second and assist in the NBA. He
37:53
Speaker 4: imagine if the Jazz can correct some of those turnovers
37:56
Speaker 4: because the Jazz players are pass happy, led by George
38:00
Speaker 4: and the backup guard as far as Isaiah Callia, so
38:03
Speaker 4: the Jazz are pointing in the right direction. They've got it,
38:06
Speaker 4: correct it as far just as far as what they're
38:08
Speaker 4: trying to do. Here's the last point about trades. Remember
38:13
Speaker 4: these human beings. So everyone out there saying I don't
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Speaker 4: feel seving God makes thirty million dollars a year, I
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Speaker 4: don't feel sorry for him. I wish I could be
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Speaker 4: traded and make thirty million. However, here's what happens is
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Speaker 4: that he's human beings. So now here's the question to
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Speaker 4: all NBA players. X will I fit in? Where do
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Speaker 4: I live? Sean? I live in the hotel. Half a
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Speaker 4: year on the road. Now I'm going from Atlanta to Washington,
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Speaker 4: d C. I'm gonna live in a hotel.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 4: My young children, my second grader and my first grader
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Speaker 4: now are going to be behind right now. I'm going
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Speaker 4: to miss them and now different things. Also, I'm leaving
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Speaker 4: some really good friends on this team. Who'll be my
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Speaker 4: new best friend on the new team. And that's why
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Speaker 4: it's so important leadership. So we always talk about when
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Speaker 4: we did make a few in season trades, the leaders
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Speaker 4: step out, step up and make the people that you're
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Speaker 4: traded to your team, make them feel what comfortable.
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Speaker 1: And at home?
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Speaker 4: What's the list today? Gordon my list today, Sean. There's
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Speaker 4: so much talk about people sitting out, Sean. This list
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Speaker 4: is a powerful list of players that play consecutive games,
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Speaker 4: the old time list. Here we go Baker's dozen of
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Speaker 4: NBA players with the most consecutive games played, most consecutive
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Speaker 4: games played, Baker's dozen, which we know means what thirteen
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Speaker 4: Because I know, Sean, you love you love a dozen
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Speaker 4: plus one having a croller on the side. I know
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Speaker 4: that you love that. All these guys are iron men.
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Speaker 4: What are some attributes of consecutive games played? Strong physicality,
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Speaker 4: two mentally focused. Three their team driven. They're not feeling
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Speaker 4: well with it, but it's possibly a sickness, but they
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Speaker 4: drive through it. Four they make more gravity plays than
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Speaker 4: airborne and sewn. You and I talked about earlier today
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Speaker 4: about players adjusting. They play more games on the games
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Speaker 4: on the ground than the air. And the last point
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Speaker 4: about this is luck. You've gotta be lucky as far
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Speaker 4: as not having a major injury during the streak. Here
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Speaker 4: we go number thirteen all time most consecutive games played.
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Speaker 4: He's an ironically showing right now is a sports agent.
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Speaker 4: Bj Armstrong played in five hundred and seventy seven games.
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Speaker 4: Number twelve. Former jazz man, I coached this guy for
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Speaker 4: half a season. James Donaldson played in five hundred and
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Speaker 4: anty six consecutive games. Number eleven. He plays right now
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Speaker 4: in the NBA. He's never missed an NBA game in
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Speaker 4: eight seasons. Right now he plays for the New York Knicks.
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Speaker 1: Right now.
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Speaker 4: Mckel bridges eleventh all time most games ever played consecutively
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Speaker 4: with five to ninety two. Number nine, Jack Twyman and
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Speaker 4: John Stockton. They both played in six hundred and nine
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Speaker 4: straight games, and with John Stockton he only missed twenty
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Speaker 4: two games in a brilliant nineteen year Koreer so six
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Speaker 4: oh nine. Number eight. This is Sean. This is most
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Speaker 4: underrated of all of them. Former utes Andre Miller is
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Speaker 4: eighth all time in most consecutive games played. Andre played
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Speaker 4: in six hundred and thirty two games. And think about
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Speaker 4: his game, Sean. It was on the ground. He was
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Speaker 4: a gravity player. Number seven. His nickname was the horse Harry,
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Speaker 4: the Horse Gallaton. He played with Nickerbocker's in the nineteen
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Speaker 4: fifties and sixties. He played in six eighty two games.
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Speaker 4: Number six. This man always was fighting in a game.
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Speaker 4: He always was a Nembus, both on his team and
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Speaker 4: the opposition. Bill Lambier is sixth all time. He played
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Speaker 4: in six hundred and eighty five consecutive games. Number five,
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Speaker 4: schafs seven hundred and six, Number four. Last night's Jazz
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Speaker 4: game against the Thunder, he was the voice the analyst
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Speaker 4: of the Thunder. Michael Cage played in seven hundred and
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Speaker 4: thirty six consecutive games. Number three. This guy was a
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Speaker 4: former teammate of Jerry Sloan with the Washington at that
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Speaker 4: time of Bullets when Jerry Sloan was a rookie. This
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Speaker 4: guy was his last year in the NBA. Johnny red
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Speaker 4: Kerr played in eight hundred and forty four games. Also,
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Speaker 4: he was the first ever coach of the Phoenix Suns
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Speaker 4: despension team. Number two all time Randy Smith. He played
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Speaker 4: for the Buffalo Braves we came also the La Clippers.
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Speaker 4: He played in nine hundred and six games. And the
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Speaker 4: number one player of all time to play consecutive NBA
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Speaker 4: games is Ac Green with one thousand, one hundred and
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Speaker 4: ninety two. Quick note, what about rom Boone, the Jazz
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Speaker 4: analyst presently right now he's a friend of all of ours.
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Speaker 4: Rom Boone had streak of one thousand and forty four
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Speaker 4: one thousand and forty one consecutive games, including six hundred
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Speaker 4: and sixty two in the ABA and three hundred and
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Speaker 4: seventy nine games in the NBA. In the NBA, that's
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Speaker 4: my list. But Sean, here's the last one. Baseball. Oh ye,
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Speaker 4: cal Ripkin.
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Speaker 3: This is this is one of those sports records that's
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Speaker 3: never going to be broken.
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Speaker 4: Right, It'll never be broken. And see what are you
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Speaker 4: talking about? His the metrics, cal Ripkin played in two thousand,
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Speaker 4: six hundred and thirty two consecutive baseball games. Let's put
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Speaker 4: it from a calendar from May thirtieth, nineteen eighty two
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Speaker 4: through September nineteenth, nineteen ninety eight. He played in two thousand,
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Speaker 4: six hundred and thirty two consecutive games. So Ac Green
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Speaker 4: and cal Ripkin. And in football, Sewan, it's basically in
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Speaker 4: football as far as positionally right now, it's what Brent
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Speaker 4: faub brev.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a bunch of specialists, a punter, punter. There's
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Speaker 3: a couple of long snappers, actually active long snappers that
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Speaker 3: are top five. Brett Fahr played in two hundred and
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Speaker 3: ninety nine games, and Jim Marshall, one of the members
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Speaker 3: of the Purple People leaders. He played two hundred and
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Speaker 3: eighty two games straight. That is insane for a quarterback obviously,
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Speaker 3: and for a defensive lineman to get two eighty two
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Speaker 3: that's pretty wild.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and just take my basketball.
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Speaker 4: Also showing the wear and tearing your body so many
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Speaker 4: games in the NBA, so with Ac Green of doing
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Speaker 4: that with one thousand and one ninety two and again
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Speaker 4: John Stockton so mentioned about John so even though John
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Speaker 4: had so many different streaks going for him, but he
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Speaker 4: only missed eighteen probably twenty two games in nineteen seasons,
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Speaker 4: so which meant that seventeen times during his koreer. He
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Speaker 4: played in every single game in this season, and he
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Speaker 4: was a two way player. And it's so it's might
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Speaker 4: never happened again as far as that So mckel bridges presently,
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Speaker 4: he's he's the right now the guy. He's played in
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Speaker 4: five hundred and ninety two consecutive games for both the
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Speaker 4: Phoenix Suns and the New York Knicks, and he's never
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Speaker 4: been also the Brooklyn Nets, he's never missed a game,
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Speaker 4: so far.
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Speaker 1: Impressive.
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Speaker 4: Sean, how about you your Korea, You've never missed the
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Speaker 4: broadcast so far. I love it and you and also
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Speaker 4: James Peterson. James Peterson has never missed a broadcast in
45:33
Speaker 4: his illustrious career here on ESPN seven hundred. I myself,
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Speaker 4: I'm a slacker. I missed often games.
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Speaker 3: That's not true, Gordy, Gordy's man, love talking to you.
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Speaker 3: Thank you for the basketball education once again, Thanks for
45:48
Speaker 3: coming into the studio as well.
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Speaker 1: Thanks Sean peace out.
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Speaker 3: Now it's Gordy jas