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- 0:00So how long should you stay no contact with your narcissistic
- 0:05partner or parent? Whoever it is in your life?
- 0:08Y'all? That's what we're talking about
- 0:10today. How long should you cease
- 0:17contacting this person? How long should you cut off
- 0:20access to you from or by this person, this narcissistic toxic
- 0:26ass person that has brought you so much pain, strife, emotional
- 0:31trauma, physical trauma? How long should you do it?
- 0:34Y'all? That's what we're talking about
- 0:36today. Y'all?
- 0:36That's the that's today's topic on a narcissist code.
- 0:38If you're new here, my name is Lee Hammond.
- 0:40I'm a diagnosed narcissist myself and I give you the inside
- 0:43look at the mind of a narcissist, how a narcissist
- 0:45thinks, and what a narcissist will do sometimes.
- 0:47Right. But yes, no contact is exactly
- 0:51what it sounds like. A if you don't know what no
- 0:53contact is, it's exactly what it sounds like.
- 0:56It means no contact. It means we are not talking
- 1:00anymore. It means no access.
- 1:03I think people think that no contact just means ignoring a
- 1:05person. Like, no, I'm no, I'm no
- 1:07contact, but I, I get texted emails and I haven't blocked
- 1:10them. No contact is shutting the door,
- 1:13closing the windows up. No contact is going in.
- 1:16No contact. Pretty much y'all is like going
- 1:18into a safe room with no entrances and no exits, right?
- 1:22There's no other way to get into this safe room other than you
- 1:25allowing them into your safe room other than you allowing
- 1:28them into your space. That's what no contact is.
- 1:31That's what no contact really is, y'all.
- 1:33And that's why I just tell so many people in these situations,
- 1:36they're like, no contact is meant to protect you.
- 1:41It's meant to keep you safe physically, emotionally,
- 1:45mentally, all the other stuff, verbally, right?
- 1:48Spiritually, all the other stuff.
- 1:51It's meant to protect you and keep you safe.
- 1:56This really it now, how long should you do it?
- 2:00As long as it takes, right? As long as it takes to heal,
- 2:06like most times. Let's keep it real y'all.
- 2:09Most times when you're going no contact with a narcissist, it's
- 2:13supposed to be permanent. No contact is supposed to be a
- 2:17permanent solution. No contact is supposed to be
- 2:21this is it. Like this is it, this is it.
- 2:25There is no we we this this last time I'm talking to you, this
- 2:29last e-mail that I send to you, this last text that I send
- 2:33whatever it is, right, Whatever it is, this is supposed to be
- 2:38it. There's nothing after this.
- 2:40There's no future contact after this, ever.
- 2:43That's why you have before you go no contact that that's why
- 2:47it's so important that you understand this.
- 2:50That's why it's so important that you understand the
- 2:52necessity that is going no contact for good.
- 2:55Like damn, I got. I need to go no contact forever.
- 2:57Yes, you do. You do need to go no contact
- 3:00forever. Like you do need to cut off
- 3:02contact with this person probably forever because drum
- 3:06roll it helps you heal. No contact is like you have to
- 3:10build up a muscle y'all. It's like doing going to the
- 3:12gym, doing curls right, I'm going to the gym, I'm doing
- 3:16curls like the first day I do curls, I might not have nothing
- 3:18here like there's nothing popping up.
- 3:20There's nothing here. The first day I have no contact
- 3:22is going to hurt. It's going to suck and for no
- 3:24results damn near right. But over time, the more we do,
- 3:28the more we got a little we got a little egg right here.
- 3:30We get the no contact muscle. You have to build it up over
- 3:33time. It's not a quick fix.
- 3:36No contact is a concerted effort.
- 3:38It takes effort and energy. I know when people hear the word
- 3:40no contact, they think is automatically just like is
- 3:44nothingness like it takes no effort, no energy just to block
- 3:47and just stop talking to somebody.
- 3:48It's this, it, it's so easy. No, no contact is going to have
- 3:53to, it's going to take a toll. You have to pay.
- 3:55It's damn it, you have to pay the toll to go no contact,
- 3:57right? The emotional toll, the mental
- 4:00toll, the toll toll, right? It's going to hurt.
- 4:04It's going to suck. Because most times the person
- 4:07that you're going no contact with, you've had a loan, like
- 4:10you had some semblance of a future with, you've had some
- 4:13semblance of longevity with this person.
- 4:16It could be your parent, the person who raised you, maybe
- 4:19they abused you or what not, but it's still your parent, right?
- 4:22So you're thinking about that I might not ever talk to my Mama
- 4:25again. This might be the last time I
- 4:27talked to my dad. It's like them, they're, they're
- 4:29passing away, right? It's damn near like this person
- 4:32is gone for good. Like there's, there's nothing
- 4:34else you're going to hear from this person.
- 4:35This person is pretty much unalived.
- 4:38You know what I mean? This person is pretty much gone
- 4:41and that's going to suck to hear.
- 4:43That's going to suck to deal with as a human being when you
- 4:45are no longer talking to your mom or dad, husband, wife,
- 4:49fiance, boyfriend, girlfriend, partner, whoever it is.
- 4:52Best friend, right? Your BFF, your bestie of 25
- 4:56years that was banging your husband behind your back.
- 4:58It's time to go no contact and go, right?
- 5:02Your bestie that was sleeping with your wife, your homeboy
- 5:05that was sleeping with your wife for years behind your back.
- 5:08Your kids, not yours, right? That might be going somewhere
- 5:12else. But you see what I'm saying?
- 5:15That's the type of stuff you have to prepare for.
- 5:17There's going to be a, there's going to be a plethora of
- 5:18emotions that you experience in this situation.
- 5:22So you need to be prepared to go no contact forever.
- 5:26That's one of those things. Now, is no contact always going
- 5:30to be a permanent solution? No, let's be real.
- 5:34It should be most times, but being realistic is not always
- 5:37going to be a permanent solution because no contact.
- 5:40You might be no contact for 5-10 years and you feel like you've
- 5:44healed enough. So you might reach out to your
- 5:46mom. You might try to reach out to
- 5:47your dad with some new bound with boundaries and a newfound
- 5:50strength. You might go to a therapist.
- 5:52Your therapist said, hey, look, you've been no contact long
- 5:54enough. If you're ready, you're ready.
- 5:56Your therapist might tell you to talk to somebody, tell you the
- 5:59therapist might encourage you to rekindle those relationships
- 6:03because you miss them or because you're hurting going no contact,
- 6:06right? So, but you have newfound
- 6:08boundaries or you have unanswered questions or whatever
- 6:10the case may be, right? I'm not telling you to break no
- 6:12contact, but I've heard people tell me before in the past,
- 6:15they're therapist. They've been I've been no
- 6:16contact with my mom for five years and my therapist, it's
- 6:19been affecting me greatly is I suck everyday.
- 6:22I miss my mom. She was my best friend until I
- 6:23realized that she was abusive and narcissistic and I had to
- 6:25cut her off. And I've been no contact for
- 6:27years that she keeps sending me gifts to my house and keeps
- 6:30messaging, keeps emailing my kids, whatever the case may be
- 6:33like I've been no contact. She she keeps creating fake
- 6:36numbers. My mom has been harassing me
- 6:38pretty much like my therapist told me.
- 6:40Yeah, if I'm ready, I could break no contact to tell.
- 6:43Either tell them to leave me alone or to reach out with new
- 6:46boundaries and whatnot. If they don't respect my
- 6:48boundaries, I can go no contact again.
- 6:50Because now I know the truth. Now I know that I'm not.
- 6:53Now I know the fact that I'm the fact that I've been questioning
- 6:56myself for years. I've been right to go no contact
- 6:59because this person doesn't respect my boundaries and she
- 7:02broke no contact with her mom and she this has been the years
- 7:05ago I haven't talked to in a while, but she end up breaking
- 7:07no contact with her mom and talking to her for a little bit.
- 7:10And I haven't know she's like she just told me she did it, but
- 7:13I don't know how it actually went after that.
- 7:15She she broke no contact and I don't know if it went bad or
- 7:18good. She just, you know, it was kind
- 7:19of the end of the call. But the one-on-one zoom we did,
- 7:22but she said I proved no contact and I talked to my mom for a
- 7:24little bit and I don't even know what to say about it.
- 7:28So maybe your mom is still the same person.
- 7:29Maybe she wasn't, I don't know. But she ended up breaking no
- 7:32contact. So in that situation right
- 7:33there, it had no contact lasted for five years.
- 7:36Sometimes no contact might be broken because of the law,
- 7:39right? Legally, you have kids with this
- 7:42person, you're trying to go no contact with your toxic
- 7:44ex-husband or ex-wife or whatever, right?
- 7:47And because you have kids together, it can be very
- 7:50difficult to navigate that landscape because now you have
- 7:53to talk to the person sometimes unless you have a, unless you
- 7:55have a qualified third party or somebody like that, or you
- 8:00might, you might have talked via a parenting app.
- 8:02You say you've been no contact, able to have a third party pick
- 8:05and pick up and drop off the kids right through the kid
- 8:07exchanges. So you haven't had to talk to
- 8:08the person, but now they, they took you to court and the court
- 8:13ordered you to use a parenting app to communicate with them
- 8:15because the third party wasn't working.
- 8:17You see, they that went on for a few months or whatever the case
- 8:20may be, and then they had to break no contact because the
- 8:23court ordered parenting app. So no contact.
- 8:25That's not always going to be forever.
- 8:27And I feel like, but if you're dealing with an abusive,
- 8:29manipulative, horrible, evil ass person, then you have to set the
- 8:34goal for no contact to be forever.
- 8:36That's me. That's, that's what I this is my
- 8:37thoughts right here. If it's your mom, dad or
- 8:39somebody and they just were refusing to hear your side, if
- 8:43anything refuses and take accountability for anything that
- 8:45they've put you through, refusing to hear your side of
- 8:48the story, refusing to hear you out at all, then yeah, yeah, it
- 8:51might absolutely be time to go no contact for good.
- 8:55You should absolutely set the goal to go no contact for good.
- 9:00It should be that way. Let's keep you hot.
- 9:01Let's keep it real and I know everybody.
- 9:05Some people get afraid of the permanence like lay damn forever
- 9:08yes, y'all forever. You might not ever talk to this
- 9:12person again. So before you make the decision
- 9:14to go no contact, make sure that you have all the questions that
- 9:18you need answered answered. Even if they never going to get
- 9:21an answer. I'm not telling you to reach out
- 9:22to them to ask it to to to get these answers because they
- 9:25probably would never give them to you.
- 9:27I'm telling you internally that you have to be OK with not
- 9:31getting the answers to some of these questions right.
- 9:33I have a course about finding your why.
- 9:35It's about healing for narcissistic abuse.
- 9:37And one of the main thing that you need to heal in order to
- 9:39move forward is being OK. We're not getting the answer to
- 9:43every single question being OK We're not.
- 9:46You said being OK with things like that going down and not
- 9:49happening, right? Being OK with not ever seeing
- 9:53this person again. Being OK without ever hearing
- 9:56this person's voice again. It's called finding your why.
- 9:59You can find on my website mentalillness.net, but that's
- 10:04literally how it goes. So many people are battling
- 10:06this. You have to set the goal for
- 10:09what benefits you most. It takes as long as it takes.
- 10:12No Contact is not meant to punish the other person.
- 10:15There's so many people out there that just like Lee, I don't
- 10:17want. I'm not trying to punish my
- 10:18narcissistic partner. I know you're not.
- 10:21What I'm saying is you have to be OK.
- 10:23Releasing yourself right where you have to be OK is not
- 10:27punishment, it's preservation. You're preserving yourself,
- 10:30you're saving yourself. You're protecting yourself.
- 10:33You know all those words stalwart AP but the, the, the
- 10:36punishment thing you're not doing, you're not trying to
- 10:38punish them. You're just protecting yourself.
- 10:40You're just guarding your own mental health.
- 10:42You're just guarding your own physical health.
- 10:44You're doing this stuff for your own well-being.
- 10:47And that's the most important part that people need to
- 10:49realize. You're doing this to protect
- 10:51yourself and to preserve yourself.
- 10:52You're not doing this to punish that person.
- 10:55That is not that that doesn't have to exist together in the
- 10:58same space. These two things do not have to
- 11:01exist together. I promise you.
- 11:03So the people are going to be battling this literally.
- 11:04I don't want to punish them. You're not punishing them.
- 11:07You're protecting yourself. So going no contact, it takes as
- 11:11long as it takes y'all seriously anyway, y'all?
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