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Husband Discovers His Wife Is A Mass Killer · The Empire of Wealth

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Speaker 1: Lori Valo day Bell is a former beauty contestant.
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Speaker 2: She lost her mind.
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Speaker 3: She thinks she's a resurrected being in a god.
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Speaker 4: Anybody you spoke to who knew Laurie back then said
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that she was like the mother.
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Speaker 5: Of the year.
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Speaker 6: So what makes her a danger to herself? And two
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others threatened they murdered me, kill me.
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Speaker 7: We're gathering together as saints, as brothers and sisters and
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preparing for the second Coming of Christ.
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Speaker 5: She threatened to murder you.
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Speaker 8: Yes.
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Speaker 6: Six months later, Valo was shot and killed Lise.
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Speaker 9: They found a man with gunshot wound who was later
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pronounced dead.
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Speaker 7: The first death that kicked off this multi state mystery.
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Speaker 10: Inside is Lorie Valo's husband dead on the living room floor.
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Speaker 5: What happened today? How did they get to.
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Speaker 2: She said, you're not Charles. I don't know who you
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are what you did with Charles, But I can murder
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you now with my powers.
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Speaker 5: So how does she pose a threat to your children?
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Speaker 6: Laurie? Where are your kids? They've been missing for four months.
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Speaker 10: Do you have nothing to say now?
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Speaker 6: Laurie da Bell appears to be somebody else.
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Speaker 1: She has two missing children. JJ Vallo, Tylee Ryan.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what she's going to do with them.
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I don't know she's going to flee with them.
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Speaker 5: She's going to hurt him, all right? This house or
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the one with the flashing lights out there?
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Speaker 8: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Car drolled one? Well care?
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Speaker 11: Oh my god.
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Speaker 1: It all started on January thirty first, twenty nineteen, when
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Charles Vallow was still alive and had just returned from
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a business trip to find he was locked out of
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his own house with no sign of his wife Laurie
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or his kids JJ and Tylee. His car had also
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gone missing, and a large sum of cash had been
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withdrawn from his bank account. So when an effort to
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get some answers, he called nine to one one.
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Speaker 5: So what's going on tonight?
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Speaker 2: I can't get touched the bots? About kids?
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Speaker 5: How old are your kids?
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Speaker 3: Six and a half and sixteen? She lost her mind?
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Speaker 2: Had the house to say it.
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Speaker 3: She thinks she's a resurrected being in a god and
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remember one hundred and forty four thousand.
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Speaker 2: She's come to Jesus is coming next year.
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Speaker 6: So what makes her a danger to herself? And two
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others threatened the murder me, kill me. She's threatened to
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murder you yes, she said, you're not Charles.
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Speaker 3: I don't know who you are what you did with Charles,
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but I can murder you now with my powers.
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Speaker 5: Is this just all recent or has it been going on?
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Speaker 2: Been going about four or five years. It's gotten really
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really bad lately. She goes at a temple every day
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and speaks with Marona and Jesus Christ. The last couple
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of dations. I'm not Charles. You're not Charles, your Nick Schneider.
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Speaker 1: According to Laurie, Nick Schneider is an evil spirit who
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has possessed Charles's body, and he believed these threats against
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his life were very real. In the last few years,
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she had become obsessed with the teachings of a man
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named Chad Dabell, a man well known for right dogmatically
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and teaching his thoughts about the end of days, the
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second Coming of Christ, and other more unique concepts like
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evil spirits and zombies. Both Chad and Laurie were also
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members of Preparing a People, a cult who were preparing
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for the second Coming of Jesus Christ and the end
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of the world as we know it. Laurie also believed
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she was a member of the one hundred and forty
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four thousand, a group of high priests who will administer
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the everlasting Gospel to the world in its last days.
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She also believed that every human was on a scale
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between light and dark, and the darker one's spirit was,
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the more dangerous they were to her and her beliefs.
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Laurie had actually become so involved in this new religious
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belief that Charles had become concerned not only for himself,
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but his two children as well.
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Speaker 2: She said to me, Charles's stuff is gone. Charles stuff
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is gone.
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Speaker 5: And how long you've been trying to get in touch
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with the kids. So how does she pose a threat
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to your children.
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Speaker 2: I don't know what she's going to do with them.
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She's going to flee with them.
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Speaker 3: She's going to hurt them. And today she said, come
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take the kids. I don't care what happens to me.
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I just want to see my boys, okay. And she's
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got a pickup order.
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Speaker 1: A pickup order can be obtained after one parent fails
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to deliver a child to another parent. As Charles has
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not heard from his kids in days, he felt he
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had no choice but to take action. The cops then
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helped Charles get back in the house, but it was
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too late, as Laurie and the kids were gone. The
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very next morning, Charles called nine one one again, this
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time directing them to a hotel in Gilbert, Arizona, where
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he believed Laurie was hiding out with JJ and ty Lee.
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This time, though, Charles had managed to obtain an emergency
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mental health petition, a note that would require Laurie to
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check into a mental health institution and undergo assessment.
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Speaker 6: What's going on?
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Speaker 3: Why is she hear you?
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Speaker 12: I hear?
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Speaker 2: Are you staying here?
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Speaker 5: With her.
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Speaker 3: Long stories? She's had kind of a blood to me
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on upcount to support as much as I could, But
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it's gotten really, really bad.
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Speaker 2: Right, She's had it right, she says, I'm Nick Snyder.
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A paper over Charles's body and Charles had been killed.
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I'm going to kill you. You're murdered today or to.
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Speaker 1: Buy Charles had already tried to find Laurie earlier that
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morning by turning up at JJ's school, but despite seeing
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her car in the parking lot, there was no sign
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of her at all. However, she had left her purse
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in the car, so Charles took it in hopes that
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it would stop her from getting away. This works perfectly
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as she walked into the Gilbert police station later this
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same morning to report her missing purse. But her version
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of events was much different.
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Speaker 13: So this morning, when I took my son to school,
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but she was waiting somewhere and like stole my verse
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out of her, my hope her So my phone and
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my wallet, my money and my everything was in there.
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Speaker 5: What is it like that motivates him doing this kind
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of stuff? It did?
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Speaker 1: He say?
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Speaker 10: One?
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Speaker 13: I caught him cheating and.
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Speaker 8: I had evidence, and I told him about it.
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Speaker 7: And he travels a lot for.
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Speaker 13: Business, so I told him that it told him not
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to come home and that his stuff would be gone,
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and that his.
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Speaker 7: Car would be gone.
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Speaker 2: And as.
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Speaker 1: She claimed that she'd caught Charles having an affair and
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told him not to come home, locking him out of
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the house and taking his car, the first of many
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carefully fabricated lies that would not only ruin Charles's life
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but end it. Police informed Charles that he can't steal
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Laurie's property, no matter what the motive. A deal was
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then formed between them, saying that if Charles returned her purse,
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then the police would immediately follow up with the mental
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health petition, but Eventually, it went through and Laurie underwent
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her assessment. However, in two hours, Laurie was released with
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the doctors finding no issues at all. This decision sentenced
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Charles to death and put his kids lives in jeopardy.
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Charles filed for divorce, and six months later, his body
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was found at Laurie's house with two gunshot wounds across
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his body. The fate of his children was now in
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the hands of their delusional and dangerous mother.
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Speaker 5: Apparent gunshot. He's right here in the living room.
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Speaker 10: Firearm is going to be in the front door, in
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the front bedroom, laying on the ground next to a case.
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Speaker 5: You want to stay here?
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Speaker 1: I get this guy's When Charles's body was found, An
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investigation determines the shooter to be Alex Cox, a man
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who just so happened to be the brother of Lori Valo.
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Speaker 2: What's going on?
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Speaker 14: What happened?
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Speaker 5: He came with me with a bat. Was he living
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here or visiting? He came to pick up the sun? Okay,
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is the sun inside?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 5: My sister took him to school, okay.
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Speaker 10: So it was just you at the house, yes, and
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he came How long? What time did he come to
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pick up, pick up the Sun. Okay, so you know
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who he is?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, No, I.
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Speaker 14: Think they were talking earlier than she left, and then
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he got into him with me, like, what what do
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you mean?
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Speaker 1: Alex seems very vague in his answers and says he
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can't remember exactly what happened other than the pair simply
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got into a fight. But those kinds of answers aren't
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going to satisfy the cops, especially when there's a dead
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man involved.
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Speaker 14: So you both so you get in an argument.
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Speaker 5: What is it over? All's over my sister?
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Speaker 14: He was, he was getting physical with her, and so
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my niece came out with her bat, and then he
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took the bat away.
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Speaker 10: From what I thought, you said your niece left. She
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did before, So before before your your sister and your
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niece left. At some point, your sister and her husband
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are arguing verbal argument, and then your niece pulls out
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a bat.
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Speaker 5: He was getting closed and she came out to defend.
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Speaker 3: My sister, your niece, yes, okay, and then she poked
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at him and he took it away, okay.
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Speaker 6: And then he's he's coming back and me and you
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stick out the bat and.
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Speaker 2: What are you doing, and where are you at it?
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Speaker 5: Where are you both living? And then I turned around
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and he hit me in the back of the head
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of the bat. I went to my room and got
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my gun.
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Speaker 10: So you went to your room, meaning you're staying Yeah, okay,
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you brought your brought a gun with you.
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Speaker 5: Do you always bring a gun? Okay?
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Speaker 10: Why did you stay just in your bedroom closing the door?
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Speaker 5: Is that something you didn't think about it or you
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didn't heard him?
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Speaker 1: This final statement should actually have torn down Alex's entire argument,
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as it technically proves this wasn't self defense at all.
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When Alex went to his room to grab his gun,
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he should have been able to usher his family inside,
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close the door, and stand his ground from there. Instead,
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he grabbed his gun and without a second thought, ran
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straight up to Charles and shot him. But at this
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point there were still so many looming questions the cops
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decided to bring in all parties back for an interrogation
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to try and get to the bottom of it all
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and figure out exactly what happened to Charles.
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Speaker 10: Start when you think.
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Speaker 15: It makes a little sense, okay, So so we moved
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into this housetreet so because he offered to get me
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out here where all my family is.
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Speaker 7: When we're in Houston. We had decided to separate or whatever.
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So he's like, long, pay for house for you and
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for JJ and whatever, because he's all about Jjay.
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Speaker 6: He's never felt til.
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Speaker 7: Because we adopted him together. He says, greating you we
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adopted him as Okay, he came away first, moved in
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and brought me stuff from Houston like a U haul
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and then he hasn't been back. But it's all these
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threats on my phone all the time, you know.
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Speaker 15: Like whatever, all these things.
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Speaker 7: And then he told me what kind of throats just
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he's alling mad me right, and he doesn't want a divorce,
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So I don't like him and I don't want to
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do him. So that's just how it is. So we
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married for fourteen years and for fourteen years and him
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being horrible to her, like he's in huge freights of her.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, blah things anyway.
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Speaker 1: Immediately, Laurie describes Charles as a man with violent tendencies
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who had a history of aggression against the women he
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had married. If she can convince detectives that Charles had
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a temper, it would make their version of events even
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more plausible.
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Speaker 7: So he went back to the Houston US and he's like,
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I'm coming on Wednesday night and I'm going to come
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pick up Juji and take him to school Thursday and
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pick him up Thursday and taking Friday whatever.
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Speaker 6: I said.
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Speaker 7: Cheesy wanted to come to the house, and I said,
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you can't come stay at this house because you can't
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get along Tyler. She's a miner and she.
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Speaker 8: Has a little hair.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, so you because he gets in huge rights up
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there and she hates him, and so I'm like, you
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can't stay at the house. So I would book your
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hotel because he stays in hotels all the time because
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he travels for business and the business pays for it.
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Speaker 6: What does he do.
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Speaker 7: He works with teachers and their retirement plans. But he
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goes to them that there's works in California. He has
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like books of business in the right areas and so
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he just goes wherever. I kind of just gets to
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have freedom that he doesn't have to stay home and
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Rada and take care of so she needs, yeah, an
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excuse her.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 7: We came over in the morning and he's like banging
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on the door.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, all great, here you go.
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Speaker 7: You know, and then did you a cycle? Dad? And
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then he was like my friend to me, was like
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holding me. He's like you're hot day, give me too
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in school and I was like, it's okay, dad and kids.
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Speaker 15: Just driving to school somewhere. You know, I'm just trying
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to make it whatever.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, calm. And then he's just being real smirky and
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he like jerky, you know to me. And I was
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like they can write him or whatever. And so he
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was like, I mean the brother was served with you. No,
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he had stayed with me last night because I was
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worried he was going to come over and over has
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trouble with He just wanted someone else there, like my
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brother there, because I trust my brother.
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Speaker 1: They would claim self defense as the reason Charles was killed,
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and as the cops continue to question Laurie, they start
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to believe this even more.
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Speaker 8: He grows nuts. He's gone nuts on us a lot
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of times.
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Speaker 7: Ten and I've had to leave with JJ over the years,
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probably five times in just staying. I was all for
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two days because you don't.
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Speaker 6: Know what's going to set him up.
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Speaker 7: Like she's mad at me for always like going back.
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Speaker 3: But we had JJ.
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Speaker 7: He's special needs and it's really hard, like it's even
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higher to take him revintion.
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Speaker 10: So you thought, I don't want to.
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Speaker 8: Put words in your mouth, but you thought it was
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possible that he was.
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Speaker 1: Going to hurt you.
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Speaker 7: Absolutely, it was gonna hurt me entily, Okay, not JJ,
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You've never j J. And he hurt my brother like
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he was going ballistic about it.
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Speaker 5: Was that, okay.
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Speaker 1: An angry husband losing his temper during a divorce is
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not uncommon, and feuding couples often come to blows, making
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her story more and more convincing. But according to Charles's
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ex wife, Cheryl, this was not the man she knew.
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She says they were married and divorced and not one time,
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not one second, was he ever physically threatening to me,
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directly contradicting what Laurie is saying.
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Speaker 8: You say he goes nuts, that means that can mean
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a lot of different things.
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Speaker 7: So physical violence, he's never really besides like grabbing as
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and pushing us and I like punching ups or something.
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Speaker 6: But he looked tightly.
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Speaker 8: He has gotten physical.
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Speaker 7: Okay, he went like he was going to hit her,
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but then I got into them. So this morning comes
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back in because acond I haven't give a song. He
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was screaming at me give this song. He was very
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worried about whatever was on his text that he did
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not want me to see. And so I was just
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holding it there and he was screaming at me. And
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so Tyler came out of her room upset, and she
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had a bat, and she told him to leave her
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mother alone, like right, so she was really whatever he's
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screaming at her, don't you take me with that bat
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of all blah. And then my brother heard.
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Speaker 8: All the commotion because he was in there then, and
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so he came out into the main room and he's
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yelling at and so Tyler.
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Speaker 1: I guess, I don't know she swung at him.
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Speaker 7: Or what, but he like grabbed the bat from Tyly
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and then went to them hit tightly with the bat.
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Speaker 6: It was, and I was right there.
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Speaker 7: They were right there, and my brother grabbed him from behind,
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like just to stop him from it entirely. They got
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into the thing. He's hitting him with the bat, and
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they're on the ground like grappling around or whatever. And
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then your.
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Speaker 2: Brother with the bat wall they were grappling and.
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Speaker 1: So, yes, but there are lingering questions left by the investigation,
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one such example being that the autopsy ruled one of
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the gunshots in acted while Charles was on the ground.
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Imagine being in a situation where you have no choice
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but to shoot someone. You'd probably freeze up and you'd
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do anything you could to avoid anything but incapacitating them
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instead of finishing the job. So it seems strange that
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Alex decided to shoot Charles a second time when he
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was already flat on the ground. Furthermore, it also seems
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strange that it would take almost forty five minutes for
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anyone to call nine one one, although she claims it
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was down to shock. This is conveniently just enough time
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to concoct an alternative version of events and a solid
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story to give to the police.
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Speaker 5: Okay, so you you hear there you step up.
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Speaker 14: What's the first thing that you see Charles choosing any lurio?
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Speaker 8: Okay?
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Speaker 5: Had Tyler already gotten the bat? Did hear he have
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the back?
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Speaker 7: Okay?
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Speaker 1: So Charles is coming towards Lowrie or George Way.
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Speaker 3: And I showed him back.
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Speaker 5: Okay, I said, what are you doing?
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Speaker 14: Because he's coming at her aggressively.
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Speaker 5: Okay, it's the big news.
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Speaker 7: I wasn't going so he's coming there or you know,
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you shoved him back whatever right after that.
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Speaker 5: So I went into the bedroom. He was saying, dramming
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down and I came back.
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Speaker 14: I said, put that bat down. He's like, what are
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you going to do? So you're gonna cretain? Night was like,
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no one, I'm just gonna defend myself. So you put
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that bat down and he goes, no, yout what't like that?
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And he came at me, okay, and he already hit
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me in the head. She gave him how many times
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would you say? You told him to like put them
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back down?
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Speaker 11: Once?
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Speaker 5: Once?
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Speaker 7: Okay, and then he started advancing towards he is who
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shot you?
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Speaker 1: Fire?
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Speaker 5: I fell a couple.
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Speaker 1: One of Laurie's friends later reported that Laurie had said
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Alex believed her theories about Charles being possessed by evil,
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and the reason he was at the house at the
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time of death is simple. He believed Charles was going
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to try and kill Laurie and moved in with her
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to help keep her safe.
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Speaker 7: I didn't see the shot at her, and that I
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came back around and I saw that he was on
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the ground and it was freaking and so I was
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just freaking out, and I just lived into Mama, and
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I'm like, I've got to go to the kitchen.
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Speaker 11: You just go back and get to the kids.
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Speaker 12: I just like, I gets the.
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Speaker 7: Kids, and so I just went outside and to see
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if they were in there. Okay, I want them coming
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back in the house when all that, so I don't
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and Tyler was like looking at me, it was like
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the crazy eyes, like what just happened? And I told
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her to get in the car and went her to
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ToJ to school.
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Speaker 8: And I just when you came back in and you
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saw him on the ground, where was your brother?
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Speaker 6: Did you see him where he was at?
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Speaker 9: Yeah?
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Speaker 11: He was right in front of him.
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Speaker 15: Did your brother say anything to you at all?
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Speaker 6: Do you remember?
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Speaker 12: No?
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Speaker 6: We were both just in shock.
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Speaker 7: Like it was just I mean I had anything. I
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went out with the kids just to check on them first,
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and I was going to come back in maybe, but
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I didn't. I was like, I just have to get
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him to school and call the police.
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Speaker 8: You know, did you you were your brother say anything
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at some point about calling the police or calling nine
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one one?
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Speaker 2: Do you remember?
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Speaker 12: Yeah?
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Speaker 7: He called me okay and he said, are you taking
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guj his school? And I said, yeah, we need to
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call the police. Ood, okay, okay, So you.
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Speaker 15: He called you when you didn't come back inside, basically right, because.
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Speaker 7: I was like in the car per minute, and then
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I was like, what can I do?
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Speaker 1: It looks on the surface that an enraged Charles storms
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the house and started shouting at Laurie. Alex decided to intervene,
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fearing for his sister's life, but what started as a
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disagreement quickly turned into a fight, one that would end
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with Charles lying cold on the ground. And ty Lee
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seems to back up what Laurie and Alex said when
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she tells her version of events.
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Speaker 4: I opened the door and it was my stepdad and
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he was just screaming at both of them, like and
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so I just kind of sucked the vakeela out there,
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and then he like he just grabbed it, and so
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I fell to it around and then my uncle kind
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of like I saw him take step back.
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Speaker 11: So my uncle and then grabbed him and kind of
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took him back.
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Speaker 4: So we couldn't do anything, and so my mom said
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to you with JJ, and so I ran out the door.
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Speaker 11: And then I kind of just stood there, and then
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eventually my mom came out, and then I heard the noise,
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which I know what it was now, but it sounded
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like someone took it and hit it really hard against
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the floor. So I just wanted to make sure that,
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like my stepdad didn't do anything to my uncle and stuff.
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Speaker 7: And so she was like, no, that's fine, like we're
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just going to take to new school and only okay.
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Speaker 1: Despite Charles's lack of a violent history and how many
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times Alex nearly slipped up on scene, Laurie's story, coupled
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with ty Lee's perspective, was enough for detectives to officially
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rule this as self defense. But the death of Charles
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Valow was just the tip of the iceberg, and investigators
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quickly discovered that Laurie had become entangled in the world
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of a seedy cult that would turn this seemingly perfect
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mom into a stone cold killer. Laurie Nate Eaton with
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East Idaho News, can you tell me where your kids are?
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Where are your kids?
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Speaker 3: No comment, They've been missing for four months.
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Speaker 1: You have nothing to say.
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Speaker 13: Listen, just tell people what's happening.
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Speaker 7: There's people around the country praying for your children, praying
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for you.
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Speaker 12: Guys.
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Speaker 7: Why don't you give us answers.
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Speaker 2: That's great.
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Speaker 1: Just days after Charles's death, Laurie decided it was time
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for a change and moved the entire family across the
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country to Rexburg, Idaho, a strange choice at first until
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you realize that this was the hometown of Chad da Bell,
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and Laurie was now living minutes away from a man
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who had not only convinced her that her husband was evil,
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but was now beginning to spin the same evil stories
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for her kids as well. But this is when detectives
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met Melanie, Laurie's best friend and another member of her cult.
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She was there to spell all the sordid details on
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their ideology and the beliefs that could soon lead to
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the death of Laurie's kids.
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Speaker 12: Chen said that it's some childhood friend that Charles had,
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and that he died and then he came back as
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he didn't ever relieve he was an unclaim sparaently got
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trapped on earth, and he was now attached him for years,
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and he'd been studying him, right.
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Speaker 9: It's behaviors and stuff like that, and so then he
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pushed his.
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Speaker 5: Spirit out by and took over.
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Speaker 7: That's what he said.
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Speaker 2: Push Charles's spirit.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, so his spirit now moved on, So she believed
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that he was that Charles was gone. He was already gone,
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so she was treating him like he was a said Snyder.
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Speaker 1: This is all extremely confusing, but simultaneously eye opening, as
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it gives us a direct window into what Laurie believed
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about her own family. Apparently she thought Charles was possessed
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by a dark spirit, and by that point he was
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already gone. The problem is she thought the scene for
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her children Charles had corrupted them and they'd turn into zombies.
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Speaker 5: So you mentioned zombies.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, was that ever a turn that you were exposed
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to by them?
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Speaker 5: Okay, tell me more about the zombies that.
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Speaker 12: She had dream once and birthquake, having a new town
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people that fell there.
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Speaker 9: If they were able to get rid of all the
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zombies in the world, then those zombies won't get into
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those dead bodies and come back.
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Speaker 6: Number one.
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Speaker 9: I shouldn't mat but she's like, Okay, here's the United States.
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Speaker 2: We're going to prayer.
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Speaker 9: Let's find out how these zombies are in Arizona. Okay,
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there's twenty thousand. Yeah, I don't remark the number Joe
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saw out there.
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Speaker 12: And then she'd say a litle prayer, whatever word she'd
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come up with us she thought were powerful, and then
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he would check, oh, so many, I look like you
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can't could help find out. So then that was her
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way in my opinion, you know what I saw this
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was just through a prayer that these people would pass away.
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Speaker 1: Laurie believes that if the earth was to truly be pure,
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all the zombies had to be killed. Chad also began
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to feed Laurie more and more fantastical lies about how
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the world worked, including ascension, translation, and the ability to
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meet with God himself.
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Speaker 12: Then they had a skill of zero one hundred percent
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how much you could trust people.
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Speaker 9: I was supposed to be like ninety seven percent. They
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are always building me up anyway.
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Speaker 12: She would sometimes share like, oh.
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Speaker 9: This person at that ORSA, that's not trust for this percent.
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And that was their book game about all the maybe
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you know or don't know vibrations.
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Speaker 12: So vibrations, yes, I'm aware of that too. So according
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to how he would check, he's penulum being on. I
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didn't know about the beginning, but any one thousand was
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just to mean if you got to one thousand, that
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means you translated, or your beginning, your translation. And then
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as you get higher in your vibration, you could portle
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at some point.
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Speaker 9: Maybe to remember what she could say twenty five hundred
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maybe here, something like that. And so the more you
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went to the temple of your vibration would increase. So
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it's like this is like your light would increase that
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kind of like, if that makes sense.
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Speaker 1: Laurie had become convinced she could speak to Jesus and
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appeared to be consumed by Chad's work. Not long after,
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their relationship began to heat up, and they even started
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their religious podcast together that showed, frankly, just how insane
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she had become.
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Speaker 7: I too have seen the resurrected Jesus Christ, and he
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has told me my mission, and.
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Speaker 14: He has sent me to help people and lift.
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Speaker 3: Them in their missions.
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Speaker 1: Over time, Laurie had become more outspoken with her beliefs
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of zombies and began to tell her friends about how
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many people had been consumed by evil spirits and demons.
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Laurie then started telling her friends that her son JJ's
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behavior had changed and that he had started telling her
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he loved Satan, as well as becoming more disruptive in
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the home. Had police listened to Charles Vallo when he
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feared for JJ and Tylee's lives than they could have
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prevented this series of tragic events that followed. Only days
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after moving to Rexburg, Laurie, Alex, JJ, and Tylee visited
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Yellowstone Park. This was the last time anyone saw Tylee alive.
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Things became even stranger on September seventeenth, twenty nineteen, when
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JJ was spotted running into his Idaho home on a
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neighbor's door, caam never to be seen again. Months later,
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people started to realize that they hadn't heard from JJ
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in a long time, and Charles's parents called nine point
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one to alert the police of his disappearance. Laurie was
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caught lying to officers on November twenty sixth after they
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had made a welfare check on JJ. According to Laurie,
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her son was with her friend Melanie back in Arizona,
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but Melanie not only denied having him, but she also
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told police Laurie had asked her to lie and pretend
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to officers JJ was staying with her. Then in December,
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Alex died suddenly. His death was ruled as natural causes,
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but the amount of death and strange occurrences involving Laurie
25:17
was reaching impossible levels of coincidence. By this time, police
25:21
were also extremely concerned for the welfare of JJ and
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ty Lee, so Laurie was served an order in January
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twenty twenty forcing her to prove that they are safe
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and well. However, the deadline came and went, and Laurie
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was arrested three weeks later and placed on a bail
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of five million dollars. But even after the arrest, both
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Laurie and Chad remained silent and refused to give up
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any information on the kids. But finally, a further five
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months later, the police would get their answers when detectives
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initiated a search of Chad Dabell's property. There they found
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the bodies of JJ and ty Lee. JJ's body was
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found wrapped in duct tape and placed in a plastic bag,
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while tig Lee had been dismembered and burned in a
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fire pit before being buried