Latest / Hurdle with Emily Abbate / 311. The Paris Recap: Emily Gets Interviewed About Her Trip, Aspirations & What Happens Next
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I have just gotten to this point where I've given
- 0:02Speaker 1: myself so much grace and I just firmly stand now
- 0:05Speaker 1: in this no square pegs round hole with friends, with relationships,
- 0:09Speaker 1: with work. I am willing to work, for sure, but
- 0:12Speaker 1: I want to work in a place and work on
- 0:15Speaker 1: things that feel good. And life's too short for anything else.
- 0:33Speaker 1: What is happening everyone? I know you're excited. A surprise
- 0:36Speaker 1: episode in your podcast feed on a Wednesday. This conversation
- 0:40Speaker 1: is a special one that I had out in Paris
- 0:42Speaker 1: where I got interviewed by my girlfriend and I call
- 0:45Speaker 1: her my co pilot, Lauren Nemorov.
- 0:48Speaker 2: Lauren is a hurdler first and foremost.
- 0:50Speaker 1: She's also the founder of a creative agency here in
- 0:54Speaker 1: New York City along with her partner Sean, called Flow
- 0:57Speaker 1: State Creative.
- 0:58Speaker 2: And we met almost three years.
- 1:01Speaker 1: Ago now when she was a photographer on a job
- 1:04Speaker 1: that I was the host of for Strava and she
- 1:07Speaker 1: came up to me introduced herself. Fast forward a few months,
- 1:11Speaker 1: she applied to run on the La hurdler team for
- 1:14Speaker 1: the marathon and sadly in that process of training, got injured.
- 1:18Speaker 1: I asked her, Hey, would you rather come out as
- 1:20Speaker 1: a photographer.
- 1:21Speaker 2: She said yes.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Fast forward another year and Lauren had left her full.
- 1:25Speaker 2: Time job doing something else to.
- 1:27Speaker 1: Go headfirst into this creative agency with her partner. And
- 1:31Speaker 1: I am so blown away by not only all of
- 1:34Speaker 1: the work that they've done, the clients that they've landed,
- 1:36Speaker 1: and yeah, it's just remarkable. But in today's episode, Lauren
- 1:41Speaker 1: turns the mic on me, asks me a bunch of
- 1:43Speaker 1: questions about the work that I was doing in Paris,
- 1:45Speaker 1: how I'm feeling right now, what I'm excited about moving forward,
- 1:49Speaker 1: and so much more so, if you like it, make
- 1:52Speaker 1: sure you share it on socials, you share it with
- 1:55Speaker 1: a friend, make sure if you haven't yet read it
- 1:57Speaker 1: and reviewed the podcast, we would love follow up long
- 2:00Speaker 1: over at Hurdle Podcast.
- 2:02Speaker 2: And with that, let's get to it. Let's get to
- 2:04Speaker 2: Hurdling Today.
- 2:13Speaker 3: I am sitting down with a woman who needs no introduction,
- 2:16Speaker 3: mostly because this is her podcast, not mine. Emily Abodi, heym.
- 2:20Speaker 2: How you doing? Hey, Lauren Namro, how are you doing?
- 2:23Speaker 3: Yeah, we should probably let them know who's speaking. I'm great,
- 2:28Speaker 3: I'm really excited about this.
- 2:29Speaker 2: I'm excited about this too.
- 2:31Speaker 1: I am honored to be interviewed on my podcast, and
- 2:36Speaker 1: I truly can't think of anyone better to do it
- 2:39Speaker 1: with me than you. For those that are listening, Lauren
- 2:43Speaker 1: has been here with me as we record this in
- 2:47Speaker 1: Paris this week, as we have been collaborating and working
- 2:52Speaker 1: out of athletas power of She Space here and it
- 2:56Speaker 1: has been remarkable and we have been on a journey
- 2:59Speaker 1: here together. Lauren herself is a photographer and also owns
- 3:03Speaker 1: her own creative agency in New York City called Flow
- 3:05Speaker 1: State Creative, and has been helping me not only on
- 3:09Speaker 1: this project, but on a handful of other projects over
- 3:13Speaker 1: the past couple of years.
- 3:14Speaker 2: Dream Team, Dream Team, Meme Team.
- 3:18Speaker 3: I think it's we should start by giving the hurdlers
- 3:22Speaker 3: a little bit of context about our week here in Paris.
- 3:24Speaker 3: We are on day six, and it feels like it
- 3:27Speaker 3: has flown by. Let's give him a little bit of
- 3:29Speaker 3: an inside scoop on the past week, what we've been up.
- 3:32Speaker 1: To, a little bit of an inside scoop. So we
- 3:35Speaker 1: are on day six. That is insane to say it
- 3:38Speaker 1: has flown by in such a blur, But I have
- 3:42Speaker 1: had the honor of sitting down with I think six seven,
- 3:46Speaker 1: eight women so far. Oh my goodness, we have been
- 3:49Speaker 1: recording for sure in this space, everyone from Athleta's chief
- 3:55Speaker 1: marketing officer, Alona Amen, to stellar athletes like Natalie Coughlan,
- 4:00Speaker 1: Katie hoff Anderson, Monique Billings.
- 4:03Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, the list goes on right.
- 4:05Speaker 1: So many unbelievable women feel so privileged for this opportunity
- 4:10Speaker 1: and to be able to have a space to record
- 4:12Speaker 1: in has been truly phenomenal during this major moment in sports.
- 4:15Speaker 1: And then beyond that, I mean, over the next week,
- 4:20Speaker 1: there's just more more to come. And I mean this
- 4:22Speaker 1: doesn't even touch the surface of the other things that
- 4:25Speaker 1: we've had. The other awesome opportunity to do. From working
- 4:29Speaker 1: on content shoots both video and photo, a lot of
- 4:34Speaker 1: outfit changes have been had, so many, so many outfit changes,
- 4:39Speaker 1: so much fun though. And then of course, beyond the
- 4:41Speaker 1: work that I have the honor of doing here with
- 4:43Speaker 1: Lauren with Athleta, I'm also writing, reporting, pitching kind of
- 4:47Speaker 1: really leaning into og journalist Emily, working with some outlets
- 4:53Speaker 1: that I've worked with before, like Marie Claire, but also
- 4:56Speaker 1: pitching ideas from what shows up for me from Woman Health, GQ,
- 5:01Speaker 1: Outside magazine.
- 5:03Speaker 2: A lot of crazy stuff. The days have been long.
- 5:05Speaker 3: That's an understatement, long but quick at the same time. Yes,
- 5:09Speaker 3: we've just been in it literally running around.
- 5:13Speaker 2: Paris and biking.
- 5:14Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know what we would have done this
- 5:16Speaker 1: week without the without the line bicycle.
- 5:19Speaker 2: Shout out to line sponsor the show.
- 5:20Speaker 3: Actually, though, I want to talk about and I want
- 5:23Speaker 3: to come back to the interviews, but I first want
- 5:25Speaker 3: to talk about your journey getting to Paris, because I
- 5:29Speaker 3: know that it was I don't think process is the
- 5:33Speaker 3: right word, but I think that your story surrounding how
- 5:35Speaker 3: you got here and what you're doing here is so
- 5:39Speaker 3: incredible and so inspiring. And I know you're going to
- 5:42Speaker 3: touch on this in a little bit so we don't
- 5:43Speaker 3: have to dive too deep into it. But I know
- 5:45Speaker 3: that from my POV watching you get here has been incredible,
- 5:49Speaker 3: so I would love for you to touch on that
- 5:50Speaker 3: a little bit.
- 5:51Speaker 2: Thanks, lare so here in Paris. I decided about.
- 5:56Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit over a month ago, to just
- 5:59Speaker 1: say I'm going to bet on myself. I have been
- 6:03Speaker 1: having some really great conversations over the last few years,
- 6:07Speaker 1: knowing that the games were coming up, that I wanted
- 6:10Speaker 1: to be here in some capacity doing some of the
- 6:14Speaker 1: things that I love. I love hosting, I love writing,
- 6:17Speaker 1: I love moderating, I love podcasting. There are so many
- 6:20Speaker 1: different things that I get to do as a part
- 6:22Speaker 1: of my career that really excite me, especially during as
- 6:25Speaker 1: I've already said this really once in a lifetime moment
- 6:28Speaker 1: in sport, and candidly the first Olympic Games that I
- 6:32Speaker 1: knew i'd have a capacity to show up at because
- 6:37Speaker 1: of what happened with everything in twenty twenty and so
- 6:41Speaker 1: here I am.
- 6:42Speaker 2: A month ago.
- 6:43Speaker 1: I booked my own trip and I said, I'm going
- 6:45Speaker 1: to come. I'm going to do as many interviews as possible,
- 6:48Speaker 1: I'm going to write as many articles as possible.
- 6:49Speaker 2: I'm going to try to record with whoever wants to record.
- 6:51Speaker 1: With me, and booked a flight and a hotel, and
- 6:55Speaker 1: then within a few days of doing that, got this
- 6:59Speaker 1: all awesome call from Athleta that not only did they
- 7:03Speaker 1: want to work together this week, but also enable me
- 7:08Speaker 1: and empower me to show up and basically do everything
- 7:12Speaker 1: that I've dreamed of doing. And so I came in
- 7:16Speaker 1: a handful of days earlier than originally slated and had
- 7:20Speaker 1: these awesome women to sit down with and have been
- 7:24Speaker 1: booking guests and running around, like I said, and really
- 7:28Speaker 1: just trying to be as much of a yes woman
- 7:31Speaker 1: as possible. I am someone who really loves to own
- 7:36Speaker 1: my know in that I believe firmly that owning my
- 7:40Speaker 1: know enables and empowers me to really focus in and
- 7:45Speaker 1: put my energy into the things that excite me and
- 7:48Speaker 1: gives me more bandwidth to do so. With that said, like,
- 7:53Speaker 1: this isn't once in a lifetime thing, and so I'm
- 7:56Speaker 1: a little more willing to just push it to the
- 8:00Speaker 1: absolute limit, give all of this, all of my energy,
- 8:03Speaker 1: all of my bandwidth, try to prioritize the things that
- 8:06Speaker 1: I know that I really need.
- 8:07Speaker 2: To prioritize so that I can show up. But I'm yeah,
- 8:11Speaker 2: I'm a yes woman right now.
- 8:12Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, And I can attest to that because we
- 8:15Speaker 3: have done everything. Even when I wanted to take an hour,
- 8:21Speaker 3: She's like, Nope, we're leaving.
- 8:22Speaker 2: We're leaving right now. No doing it, We're going.
- 8:25Speaker 3: No.
- 8:25Speaker 2: It's been incredible.
- 8:26Speaker 3: I think something that is so humanizing and relatable about
- 8:31Speaker 3: the process that you went through to get here is
- 8:33Speaker 3: that sometimes on social it looks as though like you've
- 8:38Speaker 3: got it all, You're doing everything these opportunities are there,
- 8:41Speaker 3: but realistically, you're working your butt off to make these
- 8:46Speaker 3: opportunities happen. And it starts with that, just unwavering belief
- 8:52Speaker 3: in yourself and knowing that if you're here, you're going
- 8:55Speaker 3: to do some really epic things. So tell us a
- 8:57Speaker 3: little bit about that.
- 8:58Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I really think that I got to a
- 9:02Speaker 1: point about a month ago where I didn't want to
- 9:09Speaker 1: rely on anyone else anymore to facilitate my dreams and
- 9:14Speaker 1: my goals.
- 9:15Speaker 2: And I say that with a.
- 9:17Speaker 1: Lot of compassion, understanding, and appreciation for so many of
- 9:21Speaker 1: the brands that I have the opportunity to work with.
- 9:24Speaker 1: Right they have empowered me to do some of the
- 9:29Speaker 1: most amazing things, and it is through their help and support,
- 9:33Speaker 1: both through dollars and also just through collaboration. Because there's
- 9:37Speaker 1: so much to be said for the opportunity as a solopreneur,
- 9:41Speaker 1: if we'll call it that, to idate with other people
- 9:45Speaker 1: on a large scale, and so there's so much to
- 9:48Speaker 1: be said for how much I appreciate the opportunity to
- 9:49Speaker 1: collaborate with other brands. But I realized that my desire
- 9:53Speaker 1: or passion for how I thought that it should be
- 9:56Speaker 1: or how it would be was the exact thing that
- 9:58Speaker 1: was holding me back from doing something that I was
- 10:01Speaker 1: entirely capable of. I knew that I was entirely capable
- 10:05Speaker 1: of doing so many of the things that I am
- 10:08Speaker 1: you're doing this week on my own, and.
- 10:12Speaker 2: It would have looked different. But that's okay.
- 10:14Speaker 1: I had to let go of the shoulds so that
- 10:17Speaker 1: I could empower myself to just be me, to just
- 10:21Speaker 1: do the things that I know that I'm good at
- 10:23Speaker 1: and uh yeah, and execute in that way.
- 10:26Speaker 2: It's amazing.
- 10:27Speaker 3: It's amazing, and it's been again an honor to have
- 10:29Speaker 3: just a front row seat to watching you do your thing,
- 10:32Speaker 3: because it really is incredible. I want to kind of
- 10:35Speaker 3: circle back, double click if you will, on really Fun
- 10:41Speaker 3: using all of my ords. I am, I am, this
- 10:44Speaker 3: is fun. We talked about the what was it seven
- 10:49Speaker 3: eight women that you've had podcasts with while you've been
- 10:53Speaker 3: in Paris.
- 10:54Speaker 2: And like the just incredible, amazing women.
- 10:58Speaker 3: And you're no stranger to interviewing incredible people, but I
- 11:02Speaker 3: think that there's something very special about being here in
- 11:05Speaker 3: Paris with these women who've experienced the games, or they've
- 11:08Speaker 3: been surrounded by it, or they're playing a really large
- 11:11Speaker 3: role in supporting and empowering women who are at the games,
- 11:14Speaker 3: like our athletic team that we're working with. I want
- 11:18Speaker 3: to hear a little bit about your biggest takeaways from
- 11:21Speaker 3: interviewing these women, because these conversations have been incredible. So
- 11:25Speaker 3: what have you personally taken away from these interviews?
- 11:28Speaker 2: Oh?
- 11:28Speaker 1: My god, you know, there are certainly some repeat themes
- 11:33Speaker 1: that come up with so many of these individuals, because
- 11:36Speaker 1: these are all people who have excelled to such an
- 11:41Speaker 1: extent and chased their own potential in a way that's
- 11:45Speaker 1: so admirable, and so they have similar points of view
- 11:50Speaker 1: that are required of such an elite level of talent.
- 11:54Speaker 1: I would say the first one that comes to mind
- 11:57Speaker 1: is that failing isn't the end of the world, and
- 12:00Speaker 1: that you have to go into whatever it is that
- 12:04Speaker 1: excites you, go after any big goal that you are chasing,
- 12:09Speaker 1: and understand that failure doesn't mean that you have lost
- 12:14Speaker 1: it all. Failure simply means that you have the opportunity
- 12:17Speaker 1: then to learn and then use that as information going forward.
- 12:22Speaker 1: I think about the conversations that I had with Alona,
- 12:25Speaker 1: or even with Katie hoff Anderson, both of who very
- 12:30Speaker 1: different individuals and that Katie was an Olympic swimmer and
- 12:33Speaker 1: Alona is the chief marketing officer here at Atleta. But
- 12:37Speaker 1: they both had so many beautiful takeaways when it came
- 12:41Speaker 1: to navigating failure on their own terms and on their
- 12:45Speaker 1: own journeys. For Alona specifically, she had this takeaway that
- 12:50Speaker 1: really resonated with me. That was that we have the
- 12:52Speaker 1: opportunity to fail fast, right, and so instead of dwelling
- 12:57Speaker 1: on that failure, yes, experience and say, yes, feel all
- 13:01Speaker 1: of the feelings, but then yes, use that as information
- 13:05Speaker 1: to inform what could later be your biggest win. So
- 13:09Speaker 1: certainly that is definitely a big takeaway from the woman
- 13:11Speaker 1: that I sit down with. And also the importance of
- 13:15Speaker 1: holding yourself accountable to your boundaries, knowing that you have
- 13:19Speaker 1: an opportunity to have boundaries and that maintaining those, whatever
- 13:24Speaker 1: they may look like, is going to be something that
- 13:26Speaker 1: may be difficult at times in the moment, but in
- 13:29Speaker 1: the long term is going to be something that's truly beneficial.
- 13:33Speaker 1: You are not selfish for having boundaries. In fact, you
- 13:35Speaker 1: are a better person for knowing how to value and
- 13:39Speaker 1: upkeep your own time. And so I would say fail
- 13:42Speaker 1: fast know that failure isn't an end all, and then
- 13:45Speaker 1: also the importance of those boundaries and maintaining them for
- 13:48Speaker 1: yourself so that you cannot only show up for yourself,
- 13:51Speaker 1: but also for the people that you care about.
- 13:52Speaker 2: Yeah. Period.
- 13:55Speaker 3: I think that you know listening to these conversations which
- 14:00Speaker 3: are going to be coming to the feed shortly.
- 14:04Speaker 1: The way you just geeked out internally about saying the
- 14:06Speaker 1: words coming to the.
- 14:07Speaker 3: Feed, coming to the feed, dropping on your wherever you
- 14:11Speaker 3: get your podcasts. No, I think you know the watching
- 14:16Speaker 3: you and these conversations. As you mentioned, there's a lot
- 14:19Speaker 3: of common themes and threads across, Like you said, from
- 14:23Speaker 3: Alona to Katie, like it's it's very interesting to watch
- 14:27Speaker 3: these conversations unfold and see how vulnerable they are and
- 14:32Speaker 3: talking about their struggles and the ways that they are
- 14:35Speaker 3: overcoming them. I think it's incredible. They don't have to
- 14:38Speaker 3: tell you that, oh, I had major imposter syndrome when
- 14:40Speaker 3: I went up onto this stage, or I was going
- 14:42Speaker 3: into this conversation, and they're so open about it to
- 14:46Speaker 3: share their experiences and then giving us those actionable takeaways.
- 14:49Speaker 3: I would love to kind of just recap a little
- 14:52Speaker 3: bit of what that looks like and what resonated with
- 14:55Speaker 3: you the most other than kind of what you just mentioned.
- 14:58Speaker 3: I know imposter syndrome was huge one that we talked
- 15:00Speaker 3: about briefly, but I thought that conversation was just so
- 15:03Speaker 3: powerful and so relatable.
- 15:05Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the greatest opportunity as a podcaster and
- 15:10Speaker 1: candidly just as a human being is to help.
- 15:15Speaker 2: Someone feel seen and to make someone feel seen.
- 15:18Speaker 1: And a huge part of podcasting, as much as it
- 15:22Speaker 1: is interviewing, is truly just listening and giving someone the
- 15:26Speaker 1: space to not only say what's on their mind, but
- 15:30Speaker 1: then almost marinate in that for a second and perhaps
- 15:33Speaker 1: say something else. And it's in those moments of silence
- 15:37Speaker 1: which I have now become more comfortable with. I'll never
- 15:41Speaker 1: say I'm entirely comfortable, but I recognize that so much
- 15:44Speaker 1: good can come from those reprieves in the conversation that
- 15:48Speaker 1: can be really monumental when it comes to the takeaways
- 15:52Speaker 1: that the listener leaves with. As far as the takeaways
- 15:56Speaker 1: from this week, I really did love that bit unfailing.
- 15:58Speaker 1: And I also do feel like the conversation that we
- 16:02Speaker 1: had on imposter syndrome on at least two of the
- 16:05Speaker 1: different episodes was really I want to say, it was
- 16:09Speaker 1: just really like a breath of fresh air and that
- 16:12Speaker 1: no matter where you are in your life, there are
- 16:15Speaker 1: so many times where you may feel alone. But the
- 16:19Speaker 1: reality is is that whether you are a beginner at
- 16:22Speaker 1: something or a total veteran, both of those women, both
- 16:26Speaker 1: of those individuals can still have the same shared experience
- 16:30Speaker 1: in that you may feel alone and like you are
- 16:34Speaker 1: an impostor, and that comes when you feel a shake
- 16:38Speaker 1: in your own confidence. You can do something hundreds of
- 16:42Speaker 1: times and know that foundationally you are good at it,
- 16:46Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that there aren't going to be
- 16:49Speaker 1: nerves and some sort of anxiety when you show up
- 16:53Speaker 1: to the task at hand.
- 16:54Speaker 2: And so I think it is a really.
- 16:57Speaker 1: Awesome opportunity when I have all of these very woman
- 17:00Speaker 1: on the show who can speak to their experiences, reminding
- 17:03Speaker 1: us all that again, we are not alone in how
- 17:05Speaker 1: we feel, and it makes it feel like a little
- 17:08Speaker 1: bit more of a family despite so many people listening
- 17:11Speaker 1: to this from two hundred and twenty plus countries around
- 17:14Speaker 1: the world.
- 17:15Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I think this leads me nicely into my
- 17:19Speaker 3: next question, which we chatted about briefly. Earlier, but reflecting
- 17:23Speaker 3: on this experience and all of the things that we've
- 17:26Speaker 3: just spoken about, what advice would you give your younger self.
- 17:29Speaker 3: Let's say you're twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven year
- 17:33Speaker 3: old self, knowing what you know now, I was.
- 17:36Speaker 1: Raised in a family who's not always do good like
- 17:39Speaker 1: just be a good person, do good by people. It
- 17:42Speaker 1: makes all the difference. You don't have to be mean
- 17:46Speaker 1: when you're being firm. You can be kind and firm,
- 17:50Speaker 1: And I know now that it is so important to
- 17:56Speaker 1: just be a genuinely good person, and that will just
- 18:01Speaker 1: get you so far in that Again, so many people
- 18:05Speaker 1: just want to feel seen, and you can make someone
- 18:07Speaker 1: feel seen in the context of business, and you can
- 18:09Speaker 1: also make someone feel seen in the context of your
- 18:11Speaker 1: personal relationships. And so if I had to sit down
- 18:15Speaker 1: with my twenty five year old self, I would just
- 18:18Speaker 1: remind her of the importance of being a good person
- 18:20Speaker 1: and trusting your moral compass and believing that there is
- 18:24Speaker 1: so much out there for you all that you have
- 18:27Speaker 1: to do, aside from work hard, to stay true to
- 18:30Speaker 1: what you know is important, which is being a good person.
- 18:33Speaker 1: I also believe that I tell my younger self at
- 18:36Speaker 1: this point, whatever you feel is the thing that you're
- 18:42Speaker 1: failing at or the thing that you could be doing
- 18:44Speaker 1: better or insert problem here.
- 18:47Speaker 2: At the end of the day, like life goes on right.
- 18:50Speaker 1: And so it doesn't mean that the hard moments that
- 18:54Speaker 1: happen that maybe there's a letdown, or maybe you feel
- 18:56Speaker 1: like you made a mistake, or maybe that you feel
- 18:58Speaker 1: like you're failing like it doesn't mean that, though feelings
- 19:00Speaker 1: that go hand in hand with.
- 19:01Speaker 2: Those instances aren't entirely valid.
- 19:04Speaker 1: But what it does mean is that you get to
- 19:06Speaker 1: get up and do it again tomorrow. And so if
- 19:09Speaker 1: something doesn't go to plan, if right now you're feeling
- 19:12Speaker 1: like you have no idea what you're doing with your life,
- 19:14Speaker 1: how you're managing, et cetera, just trust that if you're
- 19:17Speaker 1: a good person and you remember that you get to
- 19:20Speaker 1: wake up tomorrow and do it again and make a
- 19:22Speaker 1: new impression and put your best foot forward, then you
- 19:26Speaker 1: know that's all you can do.
- 19:27Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I want to talk about Obviously, you don't
- 19:30Speaker 3: get to this place without hard work and consistency, and
- 19:33Speaker 3: throughout this week you have maintained a level of consistency
- 19:38Speaker 3: considering all of the factors, including jet lag an insane schedule,
- 19:44Speaker 3: inconsistency across the board. You have woken up every single
- 19:48Speaker 3: day and gone on your run and done your pet
- 19:51Speaker 3: and gone to the gym and done all of the things.
- 19:54Speaker 2: And I have just watched.
- 19:56Speaker 3: You or listened to you as I was sleeping, head
- 20:00Speaker 3: out the door and hold on to those moments for
- 20:03Speaker 3: yourself that you know that you need. I want you
- 20:05Speaker 3: to tell us a little bit about that. How you
- 20:07Speaker 3: make that happen, especially when you just really do not
- 20:10Speaker 3: feel like it.
- 20:11Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good question.
- 20:12Speaker 1: I know foundationally that movement first thing in the morning
- 20:16Speaker 1: is imperative for me, and it doesn't.
- 20:18Speaker 2: Need to be the same every day.
- 20:19Speaker 1: Like this morning, you and I went on a twenty
- 20:22Speaker 1: minute walk around the neighborhood, right, and.
- 20:24Speaker 2: That felt great.
- 20:25Speaker 1: It felt great for me to greet the day by
- 20:27Speaker 1: getting fresh air, being outside. And I know that is
- 20:29Speaker 1: how I fill my cup up so that not only
- 20:32Speaker 1: can I be good for myself, but then pour into
- 20:34Speaker 1: others beyond that.
- 20:36Speaker 2: I just have this.
- 20:38Speaker 1: Firm sense of self belief that giving back to myself
- 20:42Speaker 1: is a non negotiable period, hard stop. And so for me,
- 20:46Speaker 1: in my case, giving back to myself is moving my
- 20:49Speaker 1: body more often than not, journaling, which has been a
- 20:52Speaker 1: little tricky this week.
- 20:53Speaker 2: And then also just finding the time to take a breath.
- 20:56Speaker 1: Yesterday, I got into this space where I was just
- 20:58Speaker 1: feeling like there was so much that we needed to
- 21:01Speaker 1: get done, and it just didn't feel like there was
- 21:02Speaker 1: enough time. And I literally walked into our bathroom in
- 21:06Speaker 1: the room and took three deep breaths, and then I
- 21:08Speaker 1: was like, Okay, like, you have the opportunity to do
- 21:12Speaker 1: this now, so like, let's just focus on what's in
- 21:15Speaker 1: front of you and do one thing at a time.
- 21:19Speaker 2: On another note, I mean when.
- 21:20Speaker 1: It comes to routines, this goes back to that conversation
- 21:22Speaker 1: on boundaries, like it's a non negotiable for me. It's
- 21:25Speaker 1: a non negotiable for me so much so that I
- 21:28Speaker 1: think about it within the context of like my entire life.
- 21:32Speaker 1: I think about one day who maybe I'll end up with,
- 21:35Speaker 1: and that that person is going to have to support
- 21:36Speaker 1: the fact that my morning routine is important to me.
- 21:39Speaker 1: I think it about it and the fact that of
- 21:41Speaker 1: who I partner with, right, I'm not saying that if
- 21:44Speaker 1: there's an opportunity for me that's at six am, then
- 21:45Speaker 1: I'm always going to wake up at three point thirty
- 21:47Speaker 1: and start my morning.
- 21:48Speaker 2: No, of course not.
- 21:50Speaker 1: But I just have a genuine understanding of what works
- 21:52Speaker 1: for me and that sticking to that is what makes
- 21:55Speaker 1: me feel my best. And I say this a lot,
- 21:57Speaker 1: but where there's a why, there's a way, and like
- 21:59Speaker 1: I have such a why to why I like to
- 22:01Speaker 1: do the things that I do first thing in the morning,
- 22:04Speaker 1: knowing how it makes me feel that because of that,
- 22:06Speaker 1: it becomes a non negotiable.
- 22:09Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been incredible and something that I've I've observed
- 22:14Speaker 3: and admired about you throughout this process, and it does
- 22:18Speaker 3: it does help when you know what you need and
- 22:20Speaker 3: you know what's going to set your day up for success.
- 22:23Speaker 3: I think that you have so many conversations about a
- 22:26Speaker 3: morning routine, So if that is something that you are
- 22:28Speaker 3: looking to to establish and you're not sure where to start,
- 22:31Speaker 3: like you figured that out and I think that's also key.
- 22:33Speaker 1: And I also think it's important just to note that like,
- 22:36Speaker 1: for instance, last night, we didn't get back to bed
- 22:39Speaker 1: till late, like probably twelve thirty or one am. It's
- 22:42Speaker 1: bizarre in Paris that it's light until like nine thirty
- 22:44Speaker 1: at night, so that feels like that's when it's time
- 22:46Speaker 1: to go to dinner. Otherwise in the States, I'm sleeping
- 22:49Speaker 1: by nine thirty, like ninety nine point nine percent of
- 22:52Speaker 1: the time. With that said, we got back at one
- 22:55Speaker 1: and then like we had work to do starting at
- 22:57Speaker 1: seven fifteen this morning, So there wasn't going to be
- 23:00Speaker 1: my traditional morning routine. And there's grace for that, Right,
- 23:04Speaker 1: I'm very cognizant of what it is that I need.
- 23:07Speaker 1: There are going to be days where I'm feeling run down,
- 23:10Speaker 1: candidly by Monday morning of next week, maybe like I'm
- 23:14Speaker 1: looking forward to like not setting an alarm finally. But
- 23:17Speaker 1: I think that so many times we hear the concept
- 23:20Speaker 1: of this like eighty twenty, right, And so I know
- 23:23Speaker 1: that if I give myself that eighty percent, then the
- 23:26Speaker 1: twenty percent, like it's kind of irrelevant, right, It's what
- 23:29Speaker 1: you're doing eighty percent of the time that's really going
- 23:32Speaker 1: to inform holistically how you feel, how you show up,
- 23:35Speaker 1: and how you move.
- 23:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
- 23:39Speaker 3: I want to shift the conversation just a little bit
- 23:41Speaker 3: back to Paris. We've been seeing so many remarkable stories
- 23:45Speaker 3: about women in the space, these athletes, but also women
- 23:50Speaker 3: surrounding the athletes, surrounding the games, and how they are
- 23:55Speaker 3: working to empower all women, whether you're an athlete or not,
- 23:59Speaker 3: I want to know what you think brands can be
- 24:04Speaker 3: doing better to support women in sport.
- 24:09Speaker 1: It's a big question, I know, and I hate that
- 24:12Speaker 1: My first response is dollars. It's going to start with dollars, though,
- 24:16Speaker 1: because women need dollars so that they can perform and
- 24:20Speaker 1: execute in a way that makes them feel seen, heard, capable,
- 24:25Speaker 1: and empowered. It is through financial support that opens doors
- 24:29Speaker 1: that may not be open otherwise.
- 24:31Speaker 2: So I do want to start.
- 24:32Speaker 1: There, and then beyond that, I would say that there's
- 24:36Speaker 1: an opportunity for brands to just make her feel more seen,
- 24:39Speaker 1: make her feel like she has a seat at the table.
- 24:43Speaker 2: So whether that is through experiences that.
- 24:45Speaker 1: Are open to all different types of individuals, women of
- 24:51Speaker 1: all different backgrounds, of all different socioeconomic status, of all
- 24:56Speaker 1: different races, religions, et cetera. Providing them the space to
- 24:59Speaker 1: come to together and feel seen in an environment where
- 25:01Speaker 1: they can can come together in community, I.
- 25:04Speaker 2: Think is super vulnerable.
- 25:05Speaker 1: I think that's why I personally feel so passionate about
- 25:08Speaker 1: the opportunity to participate in live experiences, especially ones that
- 25:13Speaker 1: foster conversation in community, because making someone feel seen, if
- 25:18Speaker 1: only in a short period of time, can have a
- 25:21Speaker 1: really beautiful domino effect, and that domino effect enables them
- 25:25Speaker 1: to then go back into their communities and perhaps provide
- 25:29Speaker 1: that same space to someone else that maybe didn't have
- 25:32Speaker 1: the same time or bandwidth to go to whatever that
- 25:35Speaker 1: woman just went to. I think it's providing spaces for
- 25:38Speaker 1: women to feel seen through community events.
- 25:40Speaker 2: It's dollars, and.
- 25:41Speaker 1: Then beyond that, if we're going to talk about like
- 25:45Speaker 1: really investing in women, it's also size inclusivity, right, Like,
- 25:49Speaker 1: we want to make sure that she feels supported from
- 25:53Speaker 1: what she wears for her sports broad or what she
- 25:55Speaker 1: wears for her bottom, and that she doesn't feel like
- 25:58Speaker 1: a burden because something isn't available in her size or
- 26:01Speaker 1: isn't available that makes her feel comfortable and confident. We've
- 26:04Speaker 1: seen such really great innovation in the different ways that
- 26:08Speaker 1: product is available to us now, from different tech features
- 26:11Speaker 1: to pockets and things like that. And so in order
- 26:15Speaker 1: to power her, you need to provide for her. So, yeah,
- 26:19Speaker 1: it starts with dollars, it goes to providing safe spaces
- 26:22Speaker 1: for her to feel seen and heard and also gather
- 26:25Speaker 1: within community. And then of course it comes down to
- 26:27Speaker 1: product and making her feel supported by how she feels
- 26:31Speaker 1: in what she's wearing to do whatever it is that
- 26:33Speaker 1: makes her feel empowered, motivated, healthier, happier in all the.
- 26:36Speaker 2: Things, all the things, all the things.
- 26:40Speaker 3: I'm stealing this from the US Women's Natural Team social channel,
- 26:43Speaker 3: so it was a good one. Who are you fan
- 26:45Speaker 3: growing over this week at the Olympics? My god, too
- 26:50Speaker 3: many to count, too many to say.
- 26:52Speaker 2: So many to say.
- 26:54Speaker 1: I am certainly not the only person that is going
- 26:58Speaker 1: to say this answer. Alona from the US woman's rugby
- 27:03Speaker 1: team is on fire right now. She is hilarious. I
- 27:09Speaker 1: just followed her on the socials like so many other people.
- 27:11Speaker 1: I wish I knew what her follower account was at
- 27:14Speaker 1: the top of the Olympics, because she's at two point
- 27:16Speaker 1: seven million time and she is popping off beyond her
- 27:21Speaker 1: I mean, there's just so many rock stars in this Olympics.
- 27:24Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to sit down with Reagan Smith
- 27:27Speaker 1: before the Olympics, and she was such an amazing interview
- 27:29Speaker 1: and I've loved watching her. No surprise, I mean, obviously
- 27:34Speaker 1: fangirling over Simone and Katie Ledecki, she Carrie, come on,
- 27:40Speaker 1: and we have to give some love to Gabby Thomas.
- 27:42Speaker 1: Gabby Thomas is one of the most eloquent, gracious.
- 27:47Speaker 2: Beautiful human beings.
- 27:49Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to speak with her this year
- 27:52Speaker 1: at Camp Strava, and she just has the best hurt
- 27:55Speaker 1: and so I'm really rooting for her in these Olympic Games,
- 27:58Speaker 1: of course, Like there are some guys I'm excited, but
- 28:01Speaker 1: you know me powers, she woman all the way, so
- 28:04Speaker 1: so many female rock stars. My heart broke for Cocoa.
- 28:07Speaker 1: I really wanted her to move forward. Yeah, there's just
- 28:11Speaker 1: so many, so many stellar stories both on the field,
- 28:14Speaker 1: on the track and the pool wherever you might.
- 28:16Speaker 3: Be so exciting and it's so exciting to be around
- 28:19Speaker 3: the energy of it on the grounds here.
- 28:21Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like we should talk about that a
- 28:22Speaker 1: little bit, like to describe it like everyone.
- 28:25Speaker 2: Is just happy.
- 28:26Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you walk into the street and there are
- 28:29Speaker 1: people that are repping all different colors for their countries.
- 28:33Speaker 2: They're walking around.
- 28:34Speaker 1: Like it is literally like the equivalent of the Fourth
- 28:37Speaker 1: of July, but for whatever country they're going to rum
- 28:40Speaker 1: and the vibes are high, like there are people pouring
- 28:44Speaker 1: the street. If something's going on in the Olympics, you
- 28:47Speaker 1: will know because like there will be cheering coming out
- 28:50Speaker 1: from the bars. Yeah, and you literally last night we
- 28:53Speaker 1: got out of a car at nine thirty and I said,
- 28:56Speaker 1: we heard the cheering, and I audibly said to Lauren
- 28:58Speaker 1: and said, I wonder what's happening. And someone's like, it's
- 29:00Speaker 1: men swimming, and everyone is just here to be supportive
- 29:05Speaker 1: and excited. And so it's a really great feeling just
- 29:08Speaker 1: to feel and extremely safe. Like I feel so safe
- 29:12Speaker 1: here right now. Yeah, I just I love it.
- 29:15Speaker 2: It's been incredible.
- 29:16Speaker 3: And I will say, you'll walk outside and if you
- 29:18Speaker 3: are curious as to what's happening, you can just turn
- 29:20Speaker 3: your head because there's normally a screen within a three
- 29:23Speaker 3: foot radius of you playing the Olympics. And it's incredible,
- 29:27Speaker 3: I will say, being here and just feeling the energy.
- 29:30Speaker 3: The epitome of the Olympics is just togetherness and connectedness
- 29:34Speaker 3: through this common language, if you will. And it just
- 29:37Speaker 3: feels so incredible to be able to experience it, and
- 29:40Speaker 3: just it's just togetherness at its core, and it's just
- 29:43Speaker 3: beautiful to watch and I feel personally incredibly grateful to
- 29:46Speaker 3: be here and to experience it firsthand. If you've ever
- 29:50Speaker 3: been to like a watch party in your own city,
- 29:53Speaker 3: it's like times that by one hundred and every race, religion,
- 29:57Speaker 3: every country is there all root for, you know, this
- 30:01Speaker 3: common goal of just of what would you call it?
- 30:05Speaker 3: Competition and achievement and empowerment, and it's just beautiful. What
- 30:10Speaker 3: are you most excited about in the next few months
- 30:12Speaker 3: after the Olympics and beyond, And there's so much going on,
- 30:15Speaker 3: so I want to I want to know.
- 30:16Speaker 1: I know I have a really exciting project coming up
- 30:18Speaker 1: for the Paralympics actually, which I can't talk about Justine, Okay,
- 30:21Speaker 1: I will be back home for a bit. I'm really
- 30:24Speaker 1: amped because in between the regular Olympics and the Paralympics,
- 30:28Speaker 1: I'm also running this relay race called Hood to Coast
- 30:30Speaker 1: in Oregon, which I have wanted to do for a
- 30:33Speaker 1: very long time.
- 30:33Speaker 2: So I'm amped on that.
- 30:35Speaker 1: Speaking of running, I've been a little bit on the
- 30:39Speaker 1: injured list for a moment, just dealing with some annoying
- 30:41Speaker 1: tendonitis in my foot.
- 30:43Speaker 2: I'm really working.
- 30:44Speaker 1: On it diligently, and I am amped because I also
- 30:49Speaker 1: may or may not have signed up for the New
- 30:51Speaker 1: York City Marathon yesterday, So I'm elated about the marathon.
- 30:55Speaker 1: And then, speaking of marathons, I'm also so elated to
- 31:00Speaker 1: be joining the team down in Savannah for every Woman's
- 31:04Speaker 1: Marathon in November. I believe the race is November sixteenth.
- 31:08Speaker 1: On November fifteenth, I'm going to be at their Wellness Festival,
- 31:11Speaker 1: not only hosting on stage with their team Milk Ambassadors
- 31:15Speaker 1: and Captains, but also facilitating goal workshops. We talk about
- 31:18Speaker 1: coming together in community and how much that opportunity means
- 31:21Speaker 1: to me, and so I'm so stoked to be doing
- 31:23Speaker 1: that with women as they prepare for a big moment.
- 31:25Speaker 2: I think there's so much.
- 31:26Speaker 1: Alignment that happens when you are working toward a big
- 31:29Speaker 1: physical goal and you start to think about the things
- 31:31Speaker 1: that excite you off the roads or wherever you might
- 31:34Speaker 1: be in your pursuit of that. And so to be
- 31:36Speaker 1: able to do that during this big moment for women
- 31:39Speaker 1: is something that.
- 31:39Speaker 2: Really makes me geeked.
- 31:41Speaker 1: There's so much to look forward to, and I hear
- 31:43Speaker 1: myself say it and I'm like, wow, like how awesome
- 31:47Speaker 1: is this? Like it's just truly so awesome that I
- 31:50Speaker 1: get to show up and do so much of the
- 31:53Speaker 1: stuff that excites me regularly. Also a forty eight hour
- 31:57Speaker 1: trip to Rome after my next care switch.
- 32:00Speaker 2: I'm very excited.
- 32:01Speaker 1: It's fun to just touch down in Italy for a
- 32:03Speaker 1: second and have some meat time.
- 32:05Speaker 3: So you have nothing going on, reiling, nothing that you're excited.
- 32:08Speaker 2: Nothing I'm excited about right now.
- 32:10Speaker 3: That's incredible. I think it's very inspiring again to just
- 32:12Speaker 3: hear all of the things that you're doing and all
- 32:14Speaker 3: of the ways that you're empowering the people around you.
- 32:18Speaker 2: That is all I had.
- 32:21Speaker 3: Unless there's anything that you would like to say before
- 32:24Speaker 3: we sign off.
- 32:25Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah, I'll be back with another episode.
- 32:28Speaker 1: Talking about the bed on your Self era, I think
- 32:30Speaker 1: there's like a lot of like mental gymnastics that went
- 32:33Speaker 1: into that and a lot of self talk that I
- 32:35Speaker 1: used to help get over the hurdle of holding myself back.
- 32:41Speaker 1: I'm not going to say that it's something that just
- 32:44Speaker 1: goes away, right. There's always going to be a different
- 32:46Speaker 1: internal dialogue that comes to fruition when we're talking about
- 32:49Speaker 1: going after things that excite you, but or to come
- 32:54Speaker 1: on that and then overall I am devastated. Is a
- 32:57Speaker 1: strong word. I am less than please that Lauren.
- 33:01Speaker 2: Is leaving me. Well we'll go it devastated.
- 33:05Speaker 1: Lauren is heading out. She will be gone for many
- 33:08Speaker 1: days by the time this goes live. But it is
- 33:11Speaker 1: truly being a person that mostly works as a solo
- 33:16Speaker 1: act and like I said, does have the opportunity to
- 33:18Speaker 1: do some collaboration.
- 33:20Speaker 2: It can be a really lonely experience.
- 33:23Speaker 1: My why is what keeps me grounded when I do
- 33:26Speaker 1: feel that way, and to have you here with me
- 33:29Speaker 1: this week has been like just such I'm gonna cry.
- 33:36Speaker 1: It's been such a dream god, so.
- 33:43Speaker 2: Emotional, and so I am like not excited for you
- 33:47Speaker 2: to leave. I'm not excited for you to leave because
- 33:50Speaker 2: that I have to do it on my own. But
- 33:53Speaker 2: you don't, you know, but I don't.
- 33:55Speaker 1: And so I am just like I can't imagine like
- 33:59Speaker 1: doing half of the things that I've done this week
- 34:02Speaker 1: without you. Actually I can't imagine doing them without you,
- 34:04Speaker 1: but it would have been very different, mostly for emotional support.
- 34:08Speaker 2: So I'm so grateful for you.
- 34:11Speaker 1: And I just want to finish by saying that to
- 34:16Speaker 1: the Emily who a year ago thought that she needed
- 34:21Speaker 1: to have everything figured out. A year ago to be
- 34:23Speaker 1: sitting where I am in this moment. I have so
- 34:26Speaker 1: much compassion for you. I get it, but sometimes you
- 34:29Speaker 1: just need to do the things that are within your
- 34:31Speaker 1: control and be a little bit easy when things aren't
- 34:33Speaker 1: going as you'd hope. To understand that whatever is supposed
- 34:37Speaker 1: to click, whatever is supposed to be, will be, and
- 34:41Speaker 1: forcing a square peg into a round hole just isn't
- 34:45Speaker 1: something that serves you. And I think that, truly is
- 34:47Speaker 1: just one of the biggest takeaways that I've had specifically
- 34:50Speaker 1: over the last few months, is like, if it's just
- 34:53Speaker 1: too hard, take a walk physically, and like also like
- 34:57Speaker 1: just don't stick on the things that feel like there's
- 35:00Speaker 1: just so much friction.
- 35:03Speaker 2: Going after what it is that you either think that.
- 35:05Speaker 1: You should be doing or something that you really want,
- 35:08Speaker 1: Like that just might mean that it's not a no,
- 35:10Speaker 1: it's just not a right now. And so I have
- 35:13Speaker 1: so much compassion for myself a year ago, and like
- 35:16Speaker 1: in the months leading up to when I made this
- 35:18Speaker 1: decision to just go for it, because candidly, I was
- 35:21Speaker 1: like feeling as though I had failed and ultimately I
- 35:25Speaker 1: was just putting so much pressure on myself. And so
- 35:28Speaker 1: I'm so happy that what's happened has happened, and I'm
- 35:31Speaker 1: so looking forward to whatever it is that really happens next.
- 35:34Speaker 2: It's beautiful.
- 35:34Speaker 3: It's not a no, it's just not a right now. Yeah,
- 35:38Speaker 3: and I think that's amazing.
- 35:39Speaker 1: Yeah, it's It's something that I also take with me
- 35:42Speaker 1: when it comes to asking guests on the show gal like,
- 35:45Speaker 1: I'm so, I've sat down with so many remarkable people,
- 35:48Speaker 1: and some of them at first ask said no, and
- 35:52Speaker 1: you have to respect their boundary and you can revisit it.
- 35:56Speaker 1: But if the worst thing that happens is something that
- 35:58Speaker 1: someone tells you no, then you're exactly where you started.
- 36:01Speaker 1: And candidly where you started probably.
- 36:03Speaker 2: Isn't that bad.
- 36:04Speaker 3: I think the two things I hear also is don't
- 36:07Speaker 3: give up, don't stop, don't stop working towards that just
- 36:10Speaker 3: because it's not happening right now doesn't mean that it won't.
- 36:13Speaker 3: It might happen a week before there's something that you
- 36:16Speaker 3: want to do. I mean, there's truly no timeline. You
- 36:18Speaker 3: don't know what's going on in other people's schedules.
- 36:21Speaker 1: Yeah, and candidly, like, you don't know your timeline ninety
- 36:26Speaker 1: nine point nine percent of the time, isn't going to
- 36:28Speaker 1: align with someone else's timeline. And so both on both
- 36:31Speaker 1: sides of that, like if you're the person who is
- 36:34Speaker 1: at making me ask, if you're the person who's being asked, like,
- 36:37Speaker 1: we have an opportunity to have compassion.
- 36:40Speaker 2: For that a little bit.
- 36:42Speaker 1: And so I have just gotten to this point where
- 36:44Speaker 1: I've given myself so much grace and I just firmly
- 36:47Speaker 1: stand now in this no square pegs around.
- 36:49Speaker 2: Home with friends, with relationships, with work.
- 36:52Speaker 1: I am willing to work, for sure, but I want
- 36:56Speaker 1: to work in a place and work on things that
- 36:58Speaker 1: feel good.
- 37:00Speaker 2: And life's too short.
- 37:01Speaker 3: Yeah, anything else, it's patience, it's determination, total, it's not
- 37:05Speaker 3: giving up.
- 37:05Speaker 1: That's it, Lauren. For those that don't follow along with
- 37:08Speaker 1: you just yet on the socials, how do they keep
- 37:11Speaker 1: up with you?
- 37:11Speaker 2: How do they see your unbelievable work.
- 37:13Speaker 3: I'm trying to be better about posting on social so
- 37:16Speaker 3: we will get to that this week. But you can
- 37:19Speaker 3: follow my personal channel at l Underscore memor Off.
- 37:22Speaker 2: It's an E M E R O F F.
- 37:24Speaker 3: And then my production content agency is called Flow State
- 37:29Speaker 3: Creative because we are always looking for that lovely state
- 37:33Speaker 3: of flow that is at flow state c on Instagram.
- 37:39Speaker 3: So would love for you guys to follow along. And
- 37:41Speaker 3: I cannot wait to do more and more and more
- 37:43Speaker 3: together and beyond. And you are so appreciated by me,
- 37:47Speaker 3: and I know all of the Hurdle Gang, So thank you,
- 37:50Speaker 3: Emily Hurdle Gang.
- 37:51Speaker 2: I'm over at Emily Body and at Hurdle Podcast.
- 37:54Speaker 1: Another hurdle conquered at you guys, Next time
- 38:02Speaker 2: A