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O'Brien & Doug Ep175 [December 7, 2023 The One Where We Took Notes] · O'Brien & Doug

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  SPEAKER_10: It's ridiculous.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's preposterous.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's ludicrous.
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  SPEAKER_02: By God, it's impetuous.
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  SPEAKER_06: The O'Brien and Duck podcast is brought to you in part by MojurMultimedia.com.
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  SPEAKER_06: Game is music in Frescan Maine.
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  SPEAKER_06: The Ridge Runner in Westfield, Maine, and my cousin, Larry.
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  unknown: Who?
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  SPEAKER_03: Larry.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, Larry.
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  SPEAKER_00: Donads are useful for their purpose, but they are no substitute for brains.
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  SPEAKER_06: Welcome to the O'Brien and Doug podcast.
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  SPEAKER_06: I'm O'Brien.
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  SPEAKER_06: I'm Doug.
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  SPEAKER_06: It's uh episode 175.
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  SPEAKER_06: Hello, everybody.
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  SPEAKER_06: 175.
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  SPEAKER_03: How you doing, man?
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  SPEAKER_03: Great.
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  SPEAKER_03: I went back to college.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like just a visit?
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  SPEAKER_03: No, I'm taking a college class.
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  SPEAKER_03: Are you really?
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  SPEAKER_03: For what?
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  SPEAKER_05: For the heck of it?
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay, no, not for what?
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  SPEAKER_05: I should have said it like the For what?
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, you're smart enough.
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  SPEAKER_03: Not I what I meant is what class?
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, it's just a online thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's it's a freebie.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's why I took it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: It doesn't cost anything.
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  SPEAKER_06: Do you want to say what the subject is?
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  SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, it's a class.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's it's a uh it's a deep dive into a Christmas carol.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's what caught my attention.
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  SPEAKER_06: A deep dive into a Christmas carol.
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  SPEAKER_03: Is a college course.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's a college course.
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  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, you know, it's it's a college out in Michigan.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's Hillsdale College.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: They offer a bunch of like free online courses.
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  SPEAKER_03: So it's like you watch a lecture and then you take a quiz at the end of it, and then at the end of the of the course, you take a final and then uh you know, you get a you know, you don't get any credit.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's a course credit or anything.
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  SPEAKER_06: Does it count as a English class or a history class?
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  SPEAKER_03: It's a it's a literature.
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  SPEAKER_03: Literature, okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I was just like, ah, that sounds kind of interesting.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I I signed up for it and I was I've already done two lectures.
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  SPEAKER_06: Nice.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's very interesting.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was like, I was like, whoa.
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  SPEAKER_03: Very cool.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so it was very, very neat.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's very well done.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um interesting because we're gonna get into uh at least I want to get into the background of some some Christmas songs today.
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  SPEAKER_03: I heard a really funny one the other day.
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  SPEAKER_06: A really funny Christmas song or just the story of one.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, it's it's funny, but it's it it wasn't what I I'd never heard it before in my life.
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  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's Billy Idol yelling at the Christmas tree.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's hysterical.
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  SPEAKER_03: Hold on.
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  SPEAKER_03: I had never heard it in my entire life.
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  SPEAKER_03: I kept going, what is this song?
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  SPEAKER_03: So I had to shazam it.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was Billy Idol.
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  SPEAKER_03: It was I had never heard this song before.
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  SPEAKER_06: Uh neither have I.
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  SPEAKER_06: So let's just while we have the technology.
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  SPEAKER_06: What is it?
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  SPEAKER_06: Yelling yelling at the Christmas tree.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yelling at the Christmas tree.
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  SPEAKER_06: Is it there?
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  SPEAKER_06: It's here.
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  SPEAKER_06: So let's see if I can get this going here.
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  SPEAKER_06: Oh, we don't want the commercial.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yelling at the big dogs.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: Uh let's see.
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  SPEAKER_06: This was uh posted two years ago.
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  SPEAKER_06: Uh oh, it's from 2005.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean it sounds like a fairly recent uh song, but I just like I can't believe I liked it.
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  SPEAKER_06: Brian Titsie plays drums.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's cool.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's my new favorite Christmas song.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's cool.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I I've never heard that.
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  SPEAKER_03: I had never heard it until the uh uh last week, and I was like, what is this?
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  SPEAKER_06: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_06: Oh, that's great.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um before we get going, we should recognize a couple of things.
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  SPEAKER_06: First of all, uh was it a little early last week, late last week, middle of last week, I don't remember, but I heard that uh Shane McGowan of the Pogues passed away.
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  SPEAKER_06: Passed away, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: As soon as I heard that, because he'd been sick for a while.
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  SPEAKER_06: No, it was uh um viral encephalitis.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, wasn't pretty.
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  SPEAKER_06: But as soon as I heard that, I'm like, okay, well, who else is gonna die?
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  SPEAKER_06: Because you know that whole that old adage celebrities die in threes.
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  SPEAKER_06: Die in threes.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: Is it just celebrities or is it anybody?
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  SPEAKER_03: I think it's celebrities.
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  SPEAKER_03: I I think they attribute it more to famous people.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I mean I mean I haven't done the research.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, I've been like, oh, you you you your your grandmother died?
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, let's find somebody else who died.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_06: You know.
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  SPEAKER_06: Let's uh so let's do this because this is um hold on a second.
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  SPEAKER_06: I was gonna play you uh their most famous song, The Pogues, Shane McAllen.
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  SPEAKER_06: I think I could play it without probably no swears on it, right?
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  SPEAKER_15: And the drunk tank.
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  SPEAKER_06: She's gonna most famous.
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  SPEAKER_06: It's called Fairy Tale of New York.
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  SPEAKER_06: She McGaman, of course.
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  SPEAKER_06: So this is why I did show notes.
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  SPEAKER_06: So I'd have material.
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  SPEAKER_03: I feel very professional right now.
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  SPEAKER_03: I feel like I should be wearing a shirt and tie.
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  SPEAKER_06: So Doug came in and I was like, so I made some notes for the show.
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  SPEAKER_06: He's like, What?
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  SPEAKER_02: Who am I?
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  SPEAKER_02: Who are you?
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  SPEAKER_06: This is what the poes sound like.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: Okay, so yeah, so Shane McGowan passed, and then sure enough, because I was like, who's gonna who's gonna die now?
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  SPEAKER_06: Uh sure enough, it was Miles Goodwin of April 9.
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  SPEAKER_03: I did hear that, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yep, no uh no cause of death or anything, and and actually it said there won't be one release.
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  SPEAKER_06: So that could mean a couple of things.
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  SPEAKER_03: That could mean a lot of yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: But this was one of my favorites.
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  SPEAKER_06: But I mean they had hits like just between you and me.
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  SPEAKER_06: Remember, just between you and me.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that was like their probably their biggest hit.
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  SPEAKER_03: April wine is one of those bands you tend to forget about.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, great Canadian band.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: It's classic, man.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: So yeah, Miles Goodwin passed away.
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  SPEAKER_06: Uh, and then today, uh, it's all over the internet, that um Denny Lane.
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  SPEAKER_06: Denny Lane of Moody Blues and Wings.
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  SPEAKER_06: He helped start start wings with Palmer.
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  SPEAKER_06: He passed away.
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  SPEAKER_06: He passed away.
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  SPEAKER_03: Today?
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  SPEAKER_06: Today.
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  SPEAKER_06: Well, I actually I don't know if it was today.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um he died.
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  SPEAKER_06: He was 79, he died of interstitial lung disease.
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  SPEAKER_03: That doesn't sound good.
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  SPEAKER_06: That doesn't sound good either, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um Well, of course, there's there's no I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_03: We keep saying, you know, that the sounds there is there any good way to die?
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  SPEAKER_05: Right, that's true.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's what happened to Doug?
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, you know, he was just he choked on some gummy bears.
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  SPEAKER_03: And we go, oh my god, that sounds awful.
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  SPEAKER_06: It's just the word interstitial.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: You know, it's lung disease.
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  SPEAKER_06: Lung disease.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, it's like you say lung disease, I'm like, oh, okay, that sucks.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then you you put that first word in there and you're like Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Interstitial.
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  SPEAKER_03: Doug don't understand.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm not even sure.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, where's where's my medical textbook?
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  SPEAKER_03: I gotta look it up.
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  SPEAKER_06: Interstitial.
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  SPEAKER_06: Only because I wanna I wanna know.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, you're already making notes, so let's let's let's keep it going.
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  SPEAKER_04: Let's keep going here.
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  SPEAKER_06: Oh, uh okay.
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  SPEAKER_06: Interstitial lung disease is a group of lung diseases affecting the interstitium.
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  SPEAKER_03: What the frick is an interstitial?
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  SPEAKER_06: The tissue and space around the air sacs of the lungs.
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  SPEAKER_06: Oh.
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  SPEAKER_06: Oh, okay.
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  SPEAKER_06: So anyway, uh Denny Lane still sounds bad, right?
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  SPEAKER_06: Denny Lane had been sick for a while as well with that.
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  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_06: So they had a GoFundMe going and which surprises me that Denny Lane, co-founder of Wings, great friend of Paul McCartney, had a GoFundMe page.
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  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's not necessarily them.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I mean, a lot of people just set them up just because, but but it but it it it has the connotation that they can't pay for the stuff themselves.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Which makes you go, hmm.
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  SPEAKER_03: Where all your money go?
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  SPEAKER_06: Right.
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  SPEAKER_06: Reddit, you know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_06: Maybe that's why you have interstitial lung disease.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, so you you don't know.
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  SPEAKER_06: I mean, that's No, you don't.
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  SPEAKER_06: And you know, it but also where's Sir Paul to help a guy out?
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah, help a brother out, man.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: You got like a billion dollars.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Or two.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: So, you know, come on, man, help your boy out.
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  SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_06: So, anyway, that's uh rest in peace to all of those all of those guys.
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  SPEAKER_06: And there's the the three, right?
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  SPEAKER_06: There's the three.
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  SPEAKER_06: Well, we hope.
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  SPEAKER_06: We'll see.
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  SPEAKER_06: We'll see.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um Kiss retired.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, about time.
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  SPEAKER_06: Did you see what they did though?
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  SPEAKER_06: And I want to get your your take on this.
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  SPEAKER_06: So they did their last their last perfor their last according to them, their last human performance.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I heard they were gonna go virtual.
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  SPEAKER_06: They're now a virtual band.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't understand what that means.
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  SPEAKER_06: Well, they supposedly at the end of their concert, they said goodbye.
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  SPEAKER_06: They did rock and roll all night, and then they said goodbye and everything.
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  SPEAKER_06: And then you hear God gave rock and roll to you.
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  SPEAKER_06: And their avatars came out.
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  SPEAKER_06: So you you know what uh what is it?
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  SPEAKER_06: Uh Star Child is Paul Stan, uh The Demon is is Gene Simmons.
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  SPEAKER_06: So they have like digital versions.
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  SPEAKER_03: Does this mean Well, this means I can tour forever.
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  SPEAKER_06: Well, that's what I'm saying.
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  SPEAKER_06: You know, because you know, you you talk about uh I know Queen did a concert or two with uh Freddie Mercury's um what do you call him?
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  SPEAKER_06: Hologram.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um using his voice and everything.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um what is what does this mean?
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  SPEAKER_06: You know, that you think about AI and things like that.
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  SPEAKER_06: Does this mean that you can still go to a kiss concert ten years from now and see The Demon and Star Child and still get the same great show like it was a big like a big production with fire and everything, but it's all digital Not to put the gen the current generation down, but here I go.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um they don't know any better.
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  SPEAKER_06: Well, that's true.
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  SPEAKER_03: They live in a digital world.
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  SPEAKER_03: So to them, it would make perfect sense.
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  SPEAKER_03: I never thought about it like that.
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  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: But I mean, like this I mean, our generation is used to going to a show and seeing, you know, I could go up to the stage and poke Paul Stanley in the eye.
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  SPEAKER_06: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, if I can get past security.
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  SPEAKER_06: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know what I'm saying?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, they're they live on their phones.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Or their tablets or their computers.
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  SPEAKER_05: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: They don't they're they're not interested in, you know, interacting with them.
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  SPEAKER_03: They just want to see a show.
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  SPEAKER_06: You know what I'm saying?
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  SPEAKER_06: Right.
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  SPEAKER_06: So remember we uh not too long ago, you two played the sphere in Las Vegas.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they've been doing that for I think they had a residency there, don't they?
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  SPEAKER_06: Well, they did they did, I think, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: And and I think I I just read a thing that Fish is gonna be there next year.
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  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I gotta go see that.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_06: But I mean, you if you look at the footage of of the sphere and how it's it's just so sensory overload, right?
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, you could look you could look all around you and see just crazy stuff.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I that's just but what I'm saying is like are concert venues like that using virtual bands is that the future?
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
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  SPEAKER_06: You think so?
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_03: Oh absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I have no doubt.
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  SPEAKER_06: So live music is dying.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's totally dying.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean you you can see it now.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean once once this current batch of acts retires, once you get rid of the Metallica, once Metallica retires, um fish, um, you know, all these big touring bands.
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  SPEAKER_03: Once they retire, you really think so?
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  SPEAKER_03: I think it's I think it's gonna go out the door, man.
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  SPEAKER_06: Because I I also read and here's the thing, uh I don't think so.
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  SPEAKER_06: And here's why I say that.
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  SPEAKER_06: Because I read a thing recently, and I can't remember who it was.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_06: It was a it was a star.
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  SPEAKER_06: Uh not a huge star, but someone that you would know.
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  SPEAKER_06: Like the North Star?
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_06: I I I can't think of who it was, but they said basically, merchandise and touring.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_06: You know, like Well, that's the only way they make money.
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  SPEAKER_06: The only way.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_06: They don't make money on on on releases, they don't make money on streaming.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_03: Um Well, like, the la I don't know if you've been watching your social media over the last week, but everybody's doing their Spotify raps.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, I know, and I've been against it.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_03: And it's just like, oh my freaking word.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_03: Nobody cares what you're listening to on Spotify because you're ripping these people off.
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  SPEAKER_06: What did I what did I um I wanted to read you because I saw one.
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  SPEAKER_06: Um hold on.
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  SPEAKER_06: It was a it was a star.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I wanted to Well, Weird Al had a thing about it.
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  SPEAKER_03: When Weird Al rails against your business, that's bad.
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  SPEAKER_06: Right.
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  SPEAKER_06: You know what I mean?
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_06: I just like the way, I just like the way Craig Ferguson.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, I love Fred Ferguson.
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  SPEAKER_06: You really do it as well.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_06: So he did, so he did one.
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  SPEAKER_06: He did kind of a meme.
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  SPEAKER_06: Uh oh, is this about the vinyl?
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he says so.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_06: Somebody asked him, Craig, when are you going to share your Spotify wrapped?
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  SPEAKER_06: I prefer vinyl.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_06: I prefer vinyl.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_06: It's none of your GD business what I listen to.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_03: It's exactly right.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm talking about.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_03: Uh but uh that weird owl thing.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I saw this on, you know, because I love weird ow.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_03: Um because everybody was talking about everybody's like, oh, we're known there.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so so this is uh it is video shared through Spotify, which is funny, and relayed on other social media.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yankovic noted, I'll make this real quick.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_03: I just want to thank you all for your amazing support.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_03: It's my understanding that I had over eight, eighty million streams on Spotify this year.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_03: So if I'm doing the math right, that means I earned$12.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_06: It's so true.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_06: My kids don't get it.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_03: I think he's like, so you know it's enough, I can get a nice sandwich at a restaurant.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_03: So from the bottom of my heart, thanks for your support and thanks for the sandwich.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_06: My kids just don't get it.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_06: And you know, I've seen some big names.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_06: I follow a bunch of people on Instagram that are big artists.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_06: And uh they're posting that.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_06: You know, the Spotify rapped.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_06: How many streams they've had, you know, how many whatever.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_06: I guarantee you that's their people doing that.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_06: They're they're not doing that.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_03: They're not because they're not making any money on.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_03: They're making zero.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_06: It's their it's their handlers that are posting those.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_03: Because they want to make, oh, look at look at you know, my guy's getting 120 million streams on Spotify.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, he made six bucks.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_06: Well, no, it's not six bucks.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_06: It's like maybe three two to three thousand bucks for 120 million.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_06: For 120 million streams, yeah, two thousand dollars.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's getting they're getting ripped off.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_06: It's uh absolutely yeah, absolutely.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_03: And that's and that's what the and again, that's what this current generation doesn't understand.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_03: You know, they love the fact that oh, I can go to Spotify or this, that, and other things.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's all well and good, but you're not helping them create more music.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_03: Because they don't understand how much work goes into creating a song.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_03: Well, just one song these days, not much.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I know I understand it.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_03: But I mean, if you're an actual musician like you, right, um, you know, you you know you gotta write the song, you gotta come up with a melody and the lit, you know, all this stuff.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_03: And then if you want to record it, you gotta get people that you know play the drums, the bass, guitar, you know, gotta you gotta put all this just to make one song takes a lot of time.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of time, yeah.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_03: And an effort.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, and then you're and then you sp you stream it and you make 0.003 cents.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_06: Well, I'll tell you one one of the aspect of that, I think, because people don't see it as a job, people see it as a hobby.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_06: You know, I think.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_03: I yeah, I mean That's why when people are like, oh, you you can play for exposure.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_03: Well, exposure isn't gonna pay my car bill.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_06: Exactly.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_03: You know, they're gonna put gas in my car.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_06: It's like it's like um they see because they say um you're on Spotify, anybody can get on Spotify.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_06: Really?
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_06: That's true, right?
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_06: It's true, anybody can.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, anybody can.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_06: And so they don't see it as are we on Spotify?
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we are.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_06: There you go.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_06: They don't see it as uh the the the the the value of music has diminished due to things like Spotify.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_03: Well, it's because you can make a song on your computer.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_03: You don't even have to have actual um musical talent.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_03: You just make a song on garage band, yeah, put it out there, and then bam.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_03: It's just it it's just I don't know.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we're bitching again, but that's okay.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_03: That's what we do here.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_03: We do, yeah.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_03: We like it.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_06: Uh to on another note, mammoth coming to Portland.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_03: I heard is it with Nita?
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_03: Uh or is that a different because they're on tour together right now.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_06: They're coming.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_06: Well, it's May 5th.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_06: So may probably not.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_06: Um they're coming to Aura in Portland, which is a small club, actually.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_06: Really?
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_06: Well, not small, small, but pretty small.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_06: Is it?
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, comparatively.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, which is surprising.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_03: The only club I've been in in Portland is Port City Music Hall.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_03: And that was fairly small.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_06: Um this used to be um Aura used to be what was that called?
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_06: I can't remember.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_03: Was it the sound?
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_03: That's right next door to Port City Music Hall.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so they're playing.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, sorry, okay.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_06: So yeah, that is small.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_06: That is small.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so that's it was interesting to me that they're playing there.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_03: That is interesting.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_06: But I did hear.
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_03: It must be just them then.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_06: It has to be.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_06: I did hear on uh you know our buddy uh Eddie Trunk's podcast his interview with Mammoth uh uh with Wolf was that he loves the the House of Blues type venues, the small the smaller venues.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_03: He's he he's he's a mean he's a man of the people.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I think he really is.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_06: I agree.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_06: So uh but I would love to see that show.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_06: That would be a good show.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_06: That would be awesome.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_06: Yep.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_06: Um and a couple of things from Ultimate Classic Rock.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_06: Uh you can see that this is the the the set the uh drawback from having you over here.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_06: You can see the list here.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_06: Or can you see this?
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_06: Can you see?
• 20:42
  SPEAKER_06: Well, I can see there's words there.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_06: You can see, but you can't see what it says.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_06: Not really.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, good.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_03: Because I I mean I'm wearing my glasses, but they're not that good.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_06: I want to see how many of how many well here's the thing.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_06: Uh Ultimate Classic Rock put out a list of the 30 greatest is it greatest?
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, 30 greatest uh trios.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_06: Oh and I want to see how many you think of are in the top ten.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_06: And kind of I'll tell you what place they are, and you can tell me whether you agree or disagree.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_06: So when you think of rock trios.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_06: Rush.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_06: Rush is at number six.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_06: Uh so there's one.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 21:23
  SPEAKER_06: Give me another one.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Spinal Tap.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_03: Spinal tap.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_03: They're not they're not a trio.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_03: I was gonna say I was gonna say they're not even on the list, but you know they're they're coming out with a sequel, you know.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, I know.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_03: I'm so excited.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_03: I can't wait.
• 21:37
  unknown: Yes.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_06: And the I think the original, I think Fran Dresher's all gonna be in it.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think all the original people are gonna be in it.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, that's gonna be awesome.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_06: That's gonna be so great.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, speaking of that, before we go on, the Hunger Games that's in the theater right now.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_06: Is that the prequel?
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_03: I have no idea.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_03: Never never even saw the first ones.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, 'cause I I haven't read the books, haven't seen the movies, do not care.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_06: Because I noticed I noticed that He's got Elf in there for Christmas.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_06: Yep.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_06: And then I saw Hunger Games and I was like, why is he running old movies?
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_06: But my wife said it's a prequel.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_03: I saw there was a new Hunger Games.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, hey, Doug doesn't care still.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_03: Alright.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_03: Woohoo! But he does have he does have Napoleon coming.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_03: I do want to see.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, yes, I do want to see that too.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_06: You know, because he's got some sweet uh although I have a problem with Napoleon.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_06: Bonaparte?
• 22:31
  SPEAKER_06: Well Bonaparte.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_06: Dynamite.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_06: Joaquin Phoenix.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_03: He's such a weird guy.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_06: Well, not only that is he a weird guy.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_06: He's a great actor.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_06: Don't you think?
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_06: He is a great actor.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_06: But I don't even think he talks in an accent.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_06: He doesn't think what I'm saying is he's speaking English in this movie.
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_06: Napoleon Bonaparte was French as French can be.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_03: But I mean it's just like it's like Kevin Costner's Robin Hood.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_06: He never spoke in an English accent.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_06: We tried.
• 23:01
  SPEAKER_06: A couple times.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_06: It was terrible.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_06: A couple times, yeah.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_06: Anyway, not to get off the track.
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_06: We were off track.
• 23:06
  SPEAKER_06: But okay, so you said rush and you said spinal tap, and that's incorrect.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_06: So uh give me another one.
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_03: Uh geez, I don't even really know trios that much.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you do.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_03: I do.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_03: Uh trios in rock.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_06: Biggest little band in Texas.
• 23:20
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, ZZ Top.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_06: They're number one.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 23:23
  unknown: Okay.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_06: I'll give them that.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_06: So you got two in the top ten.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_06: Give me another one.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, the police.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_03: The police.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_03: They are number two.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so Z Top.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_03: And then the police.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_03: The police.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_03: Rush is number six.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_03: Uh trio.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know why I am blanking so hard on this.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_06: You don't think about it.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_06: And when I was when I looked at the list, I was like, aren't there more trios than this?
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_06: More and and and and better trios than this?
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't I guess I didn't realize there weren't that many trios.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's why I'm I think that's why I'm having such a hard time because you're used to, you know, you know, more you know traditional, you know.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_06: Uh let me do the top ten.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_06: Uh and and and I did say rock.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_06: But I Was Emerson Light and Palmer on this?
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_06: Emerson Lake and Palmer is on this, yes.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, they are.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_06: But they're number 18.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_03: Oh wow.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_06: Um yeah.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_06: Uh greatest trios in rock.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_06: Now, I this is this is I was gonna say this is a stretch, but it's not a a big stretch.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_06: And number 10, Beastie Boys.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_03: No, I I would go with that, because they started off as punk rock.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah, I get it.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_06: So uh didn't think of those guys.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_03: No, I didn't even think of them.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_03: Uh because I I I attribute them more to Yeah, hip hop.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_06: Uh number nine, Crosby Steals and Nash.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I never even Number eight, Nirvana.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_06: Tik duh.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_06: Duh.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_06: Right?
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_06: Uh number seven, cream.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_06: Duh.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_06: Uh number six is Rush.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_06: Number five didn't start out as a trio, so there's a little um, you know.
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, but I guess their their most popular phase.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_06: Most popular or most most successful phase.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_06: They were a trio.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_06: Genesis.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_06: Oh.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_06: And then there were three.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_03: I was about to say, yep.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_06: Uh number four, Motorhead.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_03: Duh.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_06: And number three, the Brothers Gib.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_06: The Bee Gees.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_07: I know, right?
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_06: Let me just real quickly, let me run down the rest of the list here.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, because I as I'm looking at these names, again, it dawns on me that there's not a lot of trios out there.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_06: The James Gank.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_07: Okay.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_06: Right?
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_06: Uh the Melvins.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_06: Green Day.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_06: Green Day.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_03: Blink 182.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_03: There it goes.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_06: Blink 182 is on the list.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_06: Blink 182 is number 21.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_06: Uh and uh some of these I think they are stretching a little bit.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_06: Um just to to fill a list because there aren't that many trios.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_06: Supremes.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, they're definitely in region then.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_06: Hoosker Doo.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_06: The Jam.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_03: Who's the Jam?
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_06: Sleeter Kinney.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
• 26:37
  SPEAKER_06: Like you said, Emerson Lake and Palmer's at 18.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_06: The Ronett's.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_03: That's another stretch.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_06: Primus.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, duh.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_06: We said Link 182 at number 21.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_06: Number 22.
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_06: Great band.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_06: Beck Bogart and a Peace.
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_06: Jeff Beck, Neil Bogart, and Carmine a Peace.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_06: Or is it Carmine?
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_06: It's not Carmine.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_06: Vinny.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_06: Vinny.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_06: I think it I think it was Vinny.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_06: Uh number 23, King's X.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_06: Peter Paul and Mary.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_03: Why are they on there?
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know if it says rock.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_06: I dig rock and roll music.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_06: Folk rock, I guess, I suppose.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_06: Uh number 25, Muse, which is a very popular newer band.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_06: Actually, very popular among artists, amongst honestly, never heard of them.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_06: Rock stars.
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_06: I think they they've got some pretty good stuff.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_06: I don't listen to their stuff, but I've heard a couple things.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_06: And they're very popular among like rock stars.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_06: Like their favorite favorite band is Muse.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_06: Whatever.
• 27:40
  SPEAKER_06: Alright.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_06: I'll love it.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_06: Number number 26.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_06: Stray cats.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_06: Duh.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_03: Jeez.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_06: Number 27.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_06: I think this band should be higher.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_06: Triumph.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, Triumph is a trio.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_06: I think they should be higher.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they should be way higher.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_06: I also think this band should be higher.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_06: The crickets.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_06: Buddy Holly.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_06: Buddy Holly and the Crickets, yeah.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_06: Because weren't the crickets a band before Buddy Holly?
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_06: No, they weren't.
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_06: No, no.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_06: They'd always played together.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, but after Buddy Holly died, the crickets still played, right?
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_03: I have no idea, to be honest with you.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_06: So I don't know why they would call that a trio.
• 28:15
  unknown: T.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_06: Because Buddy Holly fronted them.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_06: But it was Buddy Holly.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_06: There weren't three crickets, there were two crickets.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it was with the drummer and the bass player.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_03: Buddy.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know what I'm thinking.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_06: Them crooked vultures.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, Dave Grohl's band.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_03: But they only put out like John Paul Jones.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, and um and Josh Holmes.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_06: Josh Holmes, yeah.
• 28:37
  SPEAKER_06: Now they only put out one album.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_03: I thought they just put out another one.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_06: Did they?
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_06: I think.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_06: And number 30, Sublime.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_03: I forgot Sublime was a trio.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_06: So did I.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_06: So that's what I'm saying.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_06: When I looked at the list, I'm like I guess there's not a lot of trios.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, you you're just so used to the music that you don't even think about the fact that there's three people.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:01
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I mean, if you listen to Rosh, I mean, you would swear there's 87 people in that band.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_03: That's true.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, when you got a bass player that's playing the keyboards, playing bass and singing, I mean, you're like, I mean, that's like five people right there.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_03: So Okay.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_06: Moving on, because you had mentioned that you're taking a class on uh a Christmas carol.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_04: God blesses everyone.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_06: Um Ultimate Classic Rock has a list of um the fifty most covered songs of all time.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_03: Christmas songs?
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_03: Well, or some of them Christmas songs.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_06: I only wanted to concentrate on the top ten.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_06: And you'd be surprised how many in the top ten are Christmas songs.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that I believe, yeah.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, because everybody comes out.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_06: Because everybody comes out with a Christmas song.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_06: Right, exactly.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_03: But when Billy I when Billy Idol comes out with a Christmas song, I mean, come on.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_06: So, so the the cool thing is it's either in the top ten, it's either a Christmas song or a Beatles song.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_03: Well Right?
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_06: Come on.
• 30:05
  SPEAKER_06: At number 10, And I Love Her by the Beatles.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_03: That's the one of the most covered songs?
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_06: I've never heard anybody else do it.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_06: 294 covers.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_03: Really?
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_06: I've never heard anybody else do it.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_06: Let me see if it lists any of yeah, uh, let's see.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_06: Uh the 30 times before the end of the night.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_06: 30 times covered 30 times before the end of the 60s.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_06: Um John Denver, Lena Horn.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_06: John Denver did that?
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_06: And I love her, yep.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_06: Smokey Robinson.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_06: Neil Diamond?
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_06: I can hear Neil Diamond doing it.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I can hear Smokey doing it.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_06: That'd be great.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_06: Um Richard Marks.
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_06: What?
• 30:40
  SPEAKER_06: With Vince Gill.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_06: Barry Manilo.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_06: Barry Manilow did it?
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_06: Yep.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_06: What the freak is.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, I didn't read this part.
• 30:50
  SPEAKER_06: Uh let's see.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_06: I have to I have to uh investigate this part just because well, because we can.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_06: Um because Paul McCartney's favorite cover of this song might throw you a little bit.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_06: Um This one right here is his favorite cover of this song.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_06: That's a commercial.
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_03: Squish it.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_03: Squishies.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_03: Squishies.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that was a that's another thing.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_03: Was that a sandwich?
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_03: Or is it subway?
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_06: This is a sandwich, yes.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, I don't know what the squishies thing was.
• 31:23
  unknown: I don't either.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_06: This is Esther Phillips and I love him.
• 31:32
  SPEAKER_08: This is this is Maca's I give him all my favorite version.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_06: Really?
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_08: That's all I've never heard of this woman.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_06: Neither have I.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_08: And if you saw my love, you'd love him too.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_08: I love you.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_06: Not really sure what makes that his favorite one, but okay.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_03: Alright.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_03: That's that's it's it's Bacca.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_03: That's true.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_03: That's true.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_06: Um, did you know that uh there's an obscure cover of And I Love Her by Kurt Cobain?
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_06: I would never have guessed that.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_06: Neither would I.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_06: Interesting.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_06: Number nine, a song based on George Gershwin's opera Porgy and Bess.
• 32:18
  SPEAKER_06: Summertime adapted by Soprano Helen Jepson.
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_06: Has been covered three hundred times.
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not even sure I know this song.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_06: I I I think you probably do.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_06: Summertime and the living is easy.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_06: Um Sublime did a uh a kind of a cover of it with Do and Time.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_06: Um but yeah, you would know it if you heard it, I think.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_06: But that's been covered 300 times.
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_06: Oh holy night.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_06: Well, that I believe by John Sullivan Dwight is number eight.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_06: That's been covered 306 times.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_06: I would think it would have been more, but I would think so.
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_03: Because that's that's one of my favorite Christmas songs.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_06: It is my absolute favorite Christmas song.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_06: I love that song.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_06: Uh 1855 was the first English translation of an 1847 French song called Minute Christians or Midnight Christians.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_06: The song has a style.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that would be a great band name.
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_03: Midnight Christians.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_06: I like that.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_06: That would be awesome.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_06: Actually, no, let's just call it Minute Christians.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_03: Nah, I like Midnight Christians.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_03: I'm gonna put that next to uh Renegade Jews.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_03: That was a great name, too.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_03: Remember that?
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_06: No, I don't.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_03: You don't remember that?
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_06: Vaguely, I guess.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_03: We were I was reading out of your uh Catholic Bible.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, oh yes, yes, yes, absolutely.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_03: We were reading out of Maccabees, yes.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_03: And then we were talking about all the renegade Jews.
• 33:38
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, whoa! Great band name.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_03: Great band.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, midnight Christians.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_03: Midnight Christians.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_06: Um the song O Holy Night, apparently, has a uh interesting history from halting the Franco-Prussian War for a night in 1871 to being the first song ever broadcast on radio on Christmas Eve in 1906.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_03: Wow, I didn't know that.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_06: Uh Johnny Mathis did it in the 50s to the 2000s with Weezer and Luke Bryan doing it.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_06: Weezer did it?
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_06: Weezer did a version of a holy night.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_03: That's funny, man.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, number seven, the Christmas song by Nat King Cole.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_06: Wow.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_06: Actually written by Mel Tour May and Bob Wells.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, best known for just nuts roasting or I like that song.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_06: That's pretty simple.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_06: How many times?
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_06: Uh 308.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_06: Oh.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_06: Uh Bob Wells had started writing lyrics on a hot California day when Mel Tour May showed up.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_06: The two finished the song in less than an hour.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_03: That always weirds me out when people write like write or record Christmas songs in summertime.
• 34:36
  unknown: Yeah.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_03: That would be weird to me.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_06: Because they have to to get it out for Christmas.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_03: And uh that would just weird me out.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_03: I'd be like, can we just record it this Christmas and put it on next Christmas?
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_03: Just you know, I'm not feeling it.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_03: You know, it's freaking July.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_06: I can't do this.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_06: But you've I've heard stories of like artists in the recording studio, they put like Christmas trees up in this.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_03: You'd have to, man, because otherwise you're gonna be like, just nuts roasting on my open fire.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_03: This is that a burger.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_06: Uh all right, so this one, when James Pierpont, uncle to businessman JP Morgan, wrote One Horse Open Slay in 1857, he never intended it to be a Christmas song.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_06: The first song ever broadcast from space in 1965.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_06: Renditions have ranged from Frank Sinatra and Barbara Streisand to Corn and Henry Rollins.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_12: I never heard Henry Rollins.
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_06: Gwen Stefani, Pentatonics, Dolly Partner, and Smokey Robinson have recorded some of the best versions of Jingle Bells.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_03: I have it up.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_03: I gotta find Henry Rollins doing jingle bells.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_06: 339 covers of Jingle Bells One Horse Open Slay.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_06: So let's see.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_06: I'm gonna put Jingle Bells, Henry Rollins.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_06: Let's see if anything anything comes up.
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_06: And hopefully, if we do find it, uh that we are able to play it.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_06: Henry Rollins.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_06: Where would that be, I wonder?
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_06: I have no idea.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, dude.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_03: Does he have a Christmas album?
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_06: It's it's William Shatner.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, that makes more sense.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_06: With Henry Rollins.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_06: That makes much sense.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_06: A punk rock version of Jingle Bass.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_06: At university.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_06: So this is this is uh Captain.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_03: Henry Captain.
• 36:23
  SPEAKER_03: Henry Rollins and William Shatner are the most unlikely of friends.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_03: But they love each other.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_03: It is great.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_11: Um key guys, he's here.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_11: Come on.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, just two big thumbs up.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_06: That is awesome.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, that's so cool.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, so that's yeah, that was covered 339 times.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_06: That was probably the best cover.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_06: That was great.
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_06: Um number five, Eleanor Rigby by the Beatles.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_06: Covered 389 times.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_03: Again, no, I've never heard anybody else but the Beatles.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_06: I have.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_06: Um, and it was a woman.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_06: Um I can't remember who it was.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_06: Maybe it says here.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_06: Uh Paul McCartney is credited with writing a majority of Eleanor Rigby, which borrowed the name Eleanor from an actress who starred in the band's video for help, and the name Rigby from a store in Bristol, England called Rigby and Evans Wine and Spirit Shippers.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_06: Musical legends Aretha Franklin, Ray Charles, and Joan Baez all covered the song, as did Alice Cooper in 2014.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_06: Wow.
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_06: Uh he said, You can can't ever do it better than Paul McCartney.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_06: Duh.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_06: Number four, White Christmas.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_03: I get that.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_06: By uh Bing Crosby.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_06: Best uh three hundred and ninety-one covers.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_06: Best-selling single of all time.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_06: Wow, I didn't know that.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_06: With more than fifty million units sold of one song.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_06: White Christmas took just eighteen minutes to record in 1942.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_06: One of the most famous covers came from Elvis Presley in 57, although Irving Boleyn, the songwriter, perhaps to drama publicity, called it a profane parody of his cherished Yule Tide standard.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_06: Others who took their chance, Lady Gaga, Elton John, Iggy Pop did White Christmas.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_06: Friggin' Iggy Pop.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_06: This is this is eye-opening.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_03: What the Iggy Pop doing White Christmas?
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_06: Well, I mean, Henry Rollins doing jingle bells.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_03: I was surprised, but now I'm even more surprised.
• 39:43
  SPEAKER_06: So let's see, White Christmas.
• 39:53
  SPEAKER_06: This is it.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_03: Alright, hopefully there's no I can't believe this exists.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_06: So this is White Christmas, psych out Christmas.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_03: Why is there a big monkey there?
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_06: That's a commercial.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_06: Oh hold on.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_06: Video plays soon.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_06: We'd like to thank YouTube for being our source of sound.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_06: This says it came out in 2013.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_03: Sounds like it's running the text video.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, oh, oh.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_06: Well, what's the best thing about white Christmas?
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, perfect.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_06: I'm just waiting for him to like start screaming or something.
• 41:13
  SPEAKER_06: It does sound like it comes from the 60s.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_06: And it may.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_06: And it just came out in 2013?
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, because the whole recording sounds very analog.
• 41:24
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_06: I don't uh there's no there's no info on it.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_03: But he's not yelling.
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_03: No, he's I mean he's doing it in a way that I wouldn't expect.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_03: No, me either.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_06: But see if he starts screaming.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_05: Nope.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_05: Nope.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_03: Just like the one.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_03: Psych out.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_03: I am psyched out.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I was not expecting that at all.
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_03: That's wild, man.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_06: That is wild.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, so that's number four.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_06: Again, covered 391 times.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_06: Number three, Silent Night by John Freeman Young.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_06: Covered 480 times.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_06: Uh his English translation comes from the Austrian version.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_06: First sung as Still Knocked.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_06: Hellnacht.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_06: On Christmas Eve in 1818.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_06: Christmas albums.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_03: German is such a beautiful album.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_06: Christmas albums and specials have led to several covers through the years, including Gwen Stefani, Kelly Clarkson, Stevie Nixon, Frank Sinatra.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_06: Bing Crosby, who had another holiday hit with White Christmas, recorded Silent Night in 35, sold more than 35 million copies worldwide.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_06: Number two, yesterday, by Paul McCartney.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_06: This one I knew I knew it, yeah.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_06: I knew it was high up there.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_06: 512 versions.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_06: That's crazy.
• 42:55
  SPEAKER_06: Um let's see.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_06: And then the number one cover, this blows my mind, because I have never heard the song until today.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_06: The number one most recorded song.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_06: Most covered song.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_04: Caravan?
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_06: Caravan.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_06: I shouldn't say I haven't heard it, but I haven't.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_06: I didn't realize there were 516 versions of this.
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_03: Um the first time I'd heard this song was in that movie that came out a few years ago, Whiplash.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_03: With J.K.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_03: Simmons and uh Miles Teller.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_03: That was the first time I'd ever heard it.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, wow, this is a really good song.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_06: No, I've heard Caravan, but I didn't realize there were 560 characters.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_06: I never would have realized that either.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, it beat yesterday.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, it was That's crazy.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_06: But I suppose, you know, I mean, this is kind of like Big Band.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I mean, this is like Duke Ellington style.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_06: Uh but yeah, that is the number one.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_03: I never would have guessed that one.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_03: I would have said yesterday would have been the number one.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_03: But I love I love this list because it's mostly Christmas songs and Beatles songs.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_06: Let me now real quick.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_06: So so let me.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_06: We did the top 10.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_06: I just want to go to 20.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_06: Sure.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_06: 11.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_06: Have yourself a merry little Christmas.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_06: Of course.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_06: Number 12, Imagine by John Lennon.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_15: Yeah.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_15: Thanks to that.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_06: Number 13, Let It Be the by the Beatles.
• 44:27
  SPEAKER_06: Of course.
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_06: Number 14, Michelle by the Beatles.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_06: Number 15, Blackbird by the Beatles.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_06: Number 16, Hey Jude by the Beatles.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_06: Number 17, Here There and Everywhere by the Beatles.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_06: Number 18, Last Christmas by Wham.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_04: Okay, how'd that get on the list?
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_06: Number 19, Winter Wonderland.
• 44:46
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_06: Alright.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_06: You're right.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_06: And number 20, Here Comes the Sun by the Beatles.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_06: So it's basically Christmas and the Beatles.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_06: Christmas and the Beatles.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_06: I'm just looking here.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_06: Over the Rainbow, Norwegian Wood by the Beatles.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_06: Something by the Beatles.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_06: Amazing Grace.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_06: Bridge Over Troubled Waters by Simon and Garfunkel.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_06: How'd they get on there?
• 45:04
  SPEAKER_06: Santa Claus is coming to town.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_06: Can't help falling in love by Elvis.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_06: In My Life by the Beatles.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_06: The Little Drummer Boy.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_06: What is this thing called Love by Elise Carlisle?
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_06: Or Elsie Carlisle.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_06: Come Together by the Beatles.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_06: Ain't no Sunshine by Bill Withers.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_06: Wow.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_06: The Fool on the Hill by the Beatles.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_06: I I'd be interested to see how many out of the 50 were Beatles.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_03: Well, so far it's most of them.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, with a little help from my friends from the Beatles.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_06: Hard Day's Night by the Beatles.
• 45:33
  SPEAKER_06: Love Me Tender by Elvis.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_06: More folk stuff.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_06: John to be good by Chuck Berry.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_06: Billy Jean, Michael Jackson, Dusty Springfield, My Way by Frank Sinatra, Stand by Me, Benny King, Time After Time, Cindy Lauper.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_06: Let It Snow, Let It Snow.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_06: We Are the World.
• 45:49
  unknown: What?
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_06: 170 people have covered We Are the World?
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_06: Really?
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_06: Uh I have to I just have to read because this is number 48.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_06: I just have to read this.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_06: Uh because anybody else is doing it.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_06: Uh leveraged star power for a cause.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_06: Um so powerful impressive that features everybody.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_06: Is that because no, there's 170 people?
• 46:18
  SPEAKER_06: It doesn't say what other covers there were.
• 46:22
  SPEAKER_06: It just said there were over 40 prominent artists.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, we got that.
• 46:26
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, half of them were all songs.
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_06: Right, that's what I mean.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_06: So I don't know I don't know who covered it.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_06: Ooh, Hallelujah by Leonard Cohen.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, it's crazy.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_06: Number 49.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_06: And Sonny by Bobby Hebb.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_15: Sonny! Thank you for the.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_06: So basically The majority of them are Christmas.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_06: Majority is Christmas and the Beatles.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_06: And the Beatles, yeah.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_06: So that's crazy.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_06: That is crazy.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_06: Can you imagine?
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, just Paul McCartney.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_06: I mean the money that he must see from that stuff.
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_06: Or the pu his publishing, I should say.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_06: I know.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_06: Does he he owns his publishing again, doesn't he?
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_06: I have no idea.
• 47:01
  SPEAKER_06: Didn't he buy it back from Michael Jackson?
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_03: Did he?
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_06: I don't remember.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_05: I mean Mike's not using it.
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_06: But I thought I thought that because I know Michael Jackson bought the all the Well he bought the Beatles.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_06: That's what I mean.
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_06: But didn't McCartney get it back?
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_03: I have no idea.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_06: Should I take the second and look it up?
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_06: Why not?
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_06: Because we're talking about it.
• 47:22
  SPEAKER_06: We are talking about it.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_03: Because I'm just curious because if he did Well, I mean if he would if he was smart, he would have.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_03: And and you know Say what you will, but I think McCartney's a pretty smart guy.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_03: I mean he wouldn't be where he is if he wasn't.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_06: Let's see, let's see.
• 47:45
  SPEAKER_06: Paul McCartney finally regains Beatles' rights after nearly fifty year in 2015, after 50 year long battle.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_06: So McCartney has the rights to all of the things.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_03: You know he's banking, of course.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_06: What a list, man.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_03: I mean how many Beatles and Christmas songs are on there.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_03: That's insane.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_03: It is insane.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_03: That's just insane.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_03: But that but that tells you a lot.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_03: You know, that does a lot.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_06: Because they become standards.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 48:12
  SPEAKER_06: You know, the Beatles, the Beatles songs have become standards.
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_03: You know, for guys that couldn't get on, you know, that said, you know, for the Remember when they uh tried out for DECA records?
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_03: And the guy said, oh, guitar music's on its way out.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_03: Well, now look at this.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, exactly.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, exactly.
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_06: Um, okay, so are we doing the the are we doing that now or are we doing that while I climb the wall?
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_06: I can't remember how we do it.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_03: No, we're doing it now.
• 48:38
  SPEAKER_06: We're doing it now.
• 48:39
  SPEAKER_03: Because it's it's taken the place of the Beck Feiner books.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_06: Right, right, okay.
• 48:42
  SPEAKER_06: So let's do that.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_06: So should I do this?
• 48:45
  SPEAKER_06: No, we can't do that.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_06: Nah.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_03: It's gotta be it's gotta be a Mike McDonald's.
• 48:49
  SPEAKER_06: It's gotta be, it's gotta be the theme music.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_03: So we gotta have that.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_03: Uh let's get the uh it's time for our Michael McDonald moment.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_06: Um because we love the man.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_06: Uh a lot of people love the man.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_06: Just turn on yacht rock on Sirius XM and he's there 24 hours a day.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_03: It's six separations of Michael McDonald's.
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_06: Right, exactly.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_03: Um I ever tell you that I I tweeted that to uh Sirius XM.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_06: Did they tweet you back?
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_03: I think they were just like, eh, this guy's stupid.
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, you know what?
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_06: I I I got rid of that little write-up there.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_06: Hold on a second.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_03: You had a write-up?
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_06: I had a write-up on uh what we were gonna talk about.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, your notes.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_06: No, it wasn't my notes, actually.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_03: What?
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_03: You have more, you wrote more stuff?
• 49:36
  SPEAKER_03: No, I don't know.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_06: What is going on with you?
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_06: I was looking for the Michael McDonald Minute.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, right, right.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, this one right here.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_06: Okay.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_06: So our Michael McDonald Minute Today is a song that neither you or I have heard yet.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, which is exciting to me.
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_06: It is very exciting.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_06: Because one of our favorite bands, yeah.
• 50:00
  SPEAKER_06: I would say probably in my at least my top 20, top 30 bands.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, definitely easy.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_06: Has put out a new album, uh, which has been a long time coming.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_06: And there's a song in there that features Michael McDonald.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_06: So let me just read the write-up.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_06: This is a band called Toad the Wet Sprocket.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_06: Named after a Monty Python bit.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_06: Um that had a bunch of hits in the 90s.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_06: Uh this track features Toad the Wet Sprockett's lead singer and songwriter Glenn Phillips.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_06: Engage I can't wait to hear this now after I've read this, engaged in a call and response with Michael McDonald in the choruses.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_06: Phillips explains to American songwriter how this collaboration came about.
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_06: He'd already written a countermelody part for the chorus.
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_06: The band's bassist Dean Dinning then went into a long rhapsody about how it would be a perfect Michael McDonald part, how so many of his iconic vocals are countermelody instead of Tight Harmony because his voice is so wide that it could overwhelm another voice.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_06: Phillips was sold on the idea, sent the song to McDonald's producer, and three months later he received four tracks of Michael just killing it in his email inbox.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_06: The song is called The Best of Me.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_06: It's on their 2021 album.
• 51:17
  SPEAKER_06: I guess it was I guess it's not a new album.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, so it's a couple years old.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, uh Starting Now, that's the name of the album.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_06: The performance is a brilliant reminder of both artists' best known work from decades before.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_06: So, without further ado, our Michael McDonald moment uh happens to be this song by Toad the Wet's Rocket.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_06: Actually, hold on, I think that's uh commercial uh see.
• 51:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because that doesn't look like Toad or Rocket.
• 51:47
  SPEAKER_03: That actually looks like Tyra Banks.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_06: Um let's uh let's let's get to this is Toad the Wets Rocket, and the song is called Best of Me.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_12: She don't dream about diamonds.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_12: She don't care about gold.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_12: I like it already.
• 52:06
  SPEAKER_12: Yep.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_12: Because I love Toad.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_12: All she wants is a share of the harvest from heart and soul.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_12: She's the light in the darkness.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_12: Can't believe I don't have this album I know, right?
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_12: She's the song that I can't stop staying with mom without home.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_03: Michael McGov, I don't hear him.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_03: You'd hear that voice.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_12: Don't talk when you Yeah, it didn't sound like him.
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't hear it.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_03: I mean unless he's why would you bury him in the well not only that it's it's like there's something somebody singing with him.
• 53:26
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_12: I can hear the high harmony, but just clickbait.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think I think we're getting ripped off here.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_03: Well, no, it's a great song.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_05: That's not what McDonald's thing is.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_05: Is it?
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_05: No, it's not.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_06: They have they have um not capitalized on his voice.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_06: They've they've they've uh actually a little disappointed.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_06: Me too.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_03: Um I mean it's a good song.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_03: Don't get me wrong.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yep.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_03: I like it.
• 55:16
  SPEAKER_03: Uh see if it's I don't I don't hear Mike in it.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_06: It says See, no, this one doesn't.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_06: It says Glenn Phillips, Dean Denning uh Todd Nichols and Josh Daubin.
• 55:30
  SPEAKER_06: Uh performed on it, but doesn't say anything about Michael McDonald.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_06: Let me do this.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_06: Let's do let's do uh Maybe that was a version without it.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_03: Why would you do that?
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_03: It's like, oh I oh well here's my Lamborghini and let me drive my uh Prius.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_06: Let's see if this is any different.
• 55:51
  SPEAKER_06: How would you just the best of me featuring Michael McDonald?
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_06: Maybe I played a maybe I played a a different version.
• 56:01
  SPEAKER_03: Is there like a why would I don't understand?
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_06: I don't understand why there would be two versions.
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_06: I mean you have Michael McDonald on the version.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_06: That should be G Bush.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_12: She don't care about gold.
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_06: I'm just gonna forward because I want to hear the whole thing again.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I heard it.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_03: There, I heard it that time.
• 56:21
  SPEAKER_12: Oh, I heard him there all she's oh yeah, there he is right there.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, yeah.
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_12: She's the rama.
• 56:38
  SPEAKER_12: She's the song that stay with mom win home.
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, there it is.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_06: I'm sorry, that's a much better version.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_06: So much better!
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_10: What the frick?
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_06: Not to take away from the other version.
• 57:05
  SPEAKER_06: No, but this is better.
• 57:07
  SPEAKER_06: This is better.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_12: Don't talk when she stops.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah, that's yeah.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_06: I just want to hit a chorus again.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_06: I wonder if he like does a thing at the end.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_06: And that's all that's all Michael McDonald's harmony, too.
• 58:10
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, he's doing all those work.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_12: Oh yeah.
• 58:18
  SPEAKER_06: Do you know what I mean when I say hit wonder if we did something at the end?
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, what if we did like an ad lib or tab lib?
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_06: That's so much.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, now that's a that's a Michael McDonald moment.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_06: That's the one.
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, well, there you go.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_06: There you go.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_06: Toad the What's Rocket from their uh 2021 album, uh, which was called I want to give it the right uh what was it called?
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_06: Um I don't know what the name of the album is.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, oh, it's starting now.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_06: Starting now.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_06: The song is called The Best of Me.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_06: So there you go.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_06: That's your Michael McDonald moment.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, and I I'm glad that we I'm glad that we found that version.
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I was a little disappointed.
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, why would I I don't know why you would why why would you release a version without him if you went through all the trouble of giving it to the book?
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_06: Right.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_06: Maybe it's in it's entirely possible that they had the song done.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_06: Like like it was done and it was recorded.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_06: And I said, you know what?
• 59:42
  SPEAKER_06: Michael McDonald's go do something with this.
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_06: And they sent it to him and it's entirely possible that that that happened.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_06: Maybe it's a hidden track.
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_03: Do they do hidden tracks anymore?
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_06: Tracks on what?
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_06: Good point.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_03: Get in the car, grandpa.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_03: Listen to Spotify.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_04: Oh.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_04: I wanna listen to my music.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_04: I have to You and your kids, you're and your crap.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_06: I listen I fight with my son every morning when I take him to to school.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_06: He because he he wants to plug his phone into my car.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_06: Because I have Apple CarPlay.
• 1:00:15
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_06: So he he puts his music and and and and I'm not gonna say anything about my my kids' music taste.
• 1:00:22
  SPEAKER_06: We're talking about Eli.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_06: His music taste because it's wide.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_06: I mean he'll listen to every everything from country to just really just you know contemplate your naval depressing music.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_06: Um but he also listened to like um skillet and and uh just like modern rock.
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_06: But he'll put he'll want to put that on and and when I'm driving to work in the morning, it's like I don't want to hear what I mean by that is if you listen to if you listen to any of that modern rock music like a skillet, um I'm trying to think of the other crossfade.
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_06: You know, this this modern it's great stuff, don't get me wrong.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_06: It all sounds the same.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_06: Um, but it's compressed and like you can't all I hear when I hear it is I wish I wish I could give you uh an example.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_06: I don't and I don't know if it translates on here, but I'll just give you um uh one song that I'm thinking of that he listens to in the car in the morning is uh song by skillet.
• 1:01:35
  SPEAKER_06: Now I like skillet, don't get me wrong.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_06: Um but it translates on here.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_06: I'm not sure if it uh because when I'm in the car, this this type of music, all I hear is like a compressed just over the top of everything, just a shh.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_06: It's like the drums are the cymbals are just squashed.
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_06: Um let me see here.
• 1:02:17
  SPEAKER_03: Oh here, yeah.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:02:22
  SPEAKER_03: It's an open hi-hat!
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_06: But it's but it's compressed.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_03: It's don't make it all.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_05: You can even hear it.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_05: No, it's not, but you can I can hear it.
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_06: It's in here the hi-hat?
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_06: It's it well no it's not the hi-hat that I'm hearing.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_06: It's it's it's compression.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah, yeah, I can hear it.
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_03: It's at the very yeah to his S's.
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_06: And all the music like this that he plays, it's it all sounds the same.
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:03:03
  SPEAKER_06: I hear what you're saying, man.
• 1:03:06
  SPEAKER_06: You know, I'll try and put something on that I, you know, from whenever.
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_06: And and I shouldn't say anything about his music taste because Well, it could be worse.
• 1:03:15
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, no, he listens to everything.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_06: Uh which I think is great.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_06: Um but that that just gets grates on my ears in the morning, especially that early in the morning.
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_03: Well, yeah.
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, you need something a little bit more uh well I don't mind Right.
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_06: That's what I mean.
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_06: I don't mind like loud music in the morning, but just that stuff.
• 1:03:35
  SPEAKER_06: Just anyway.
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I I I I I don't know about you, but I always make sure that my radio is turned down before I get out of my vehicle at night.
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_03: So that when I get in first thing in the morning, it's not like you know what I mean?
• 1:03:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_03: Because then you're like, ah that'll wake you up.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_02: What happened?
• 1:03:54
  SPEAKER_06: Call the ambulance.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_06: All right.
• 1:03:57
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  SPEAKER_06: Alright, so what are you gonna do while I climb the wall of tunes?
• 1:05:16
  SPEAKER_06: Are you just gonna hey?
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_06: You know what we should do?
• 1:05:19
  SPEAKER_06: What you should read liner notes.
• 1:05:21
  SPEAKER_06: We got the all this vinyl here.
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_06: You should just pick something and read some liner notes or something.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_06: I don't care, I don't care what it is.
• 1:05:30
  SPEAKER_06: What is that?
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  SPEAKER_06: Clapped him back in page.
• 1:05:34
  SPEAKER_06: Hey, there you go.
• 1:05:35
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know, read some song titles or some some liner notes, whatever.
• 1:05:38
  SPEAKER_06: Uh and while you do that, while you peruse that, I'm gonna climb it all too.
• 1:05:44
  SPEAKER_06: You have to read it out loud, by the way.
• 1:05:47
  SPEAKER_03: What?
• 1:05:48
  SPEAKER_03: You didn't say that part.
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_03: Uh hold on here.
• 1:05:51
  SPEAKER_03: I'm trying to Well, I'm reading this part right here.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh Acknowledgments.
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_03: Roger C.
• 1:05:57
  SPEAKER_03: Real for the title.
• 1:06:01
  SPEAKER_03: Joel Jolion Danzig for continual support of the white blues tradition.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_03: Is that racist?
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_03: Is that called white boy blues?
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I said.
• 1:06:13
  SPEAKER_03: Interesting.
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:06:15
  SPEAKER_03: Um Elliot Easton and Brian May for interest and encouragement.
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_03: Erwin Steinberg and Charles.
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_03: Elliot Easton's from the cars.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_03: Fawkes.
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_03: Wait, watch your Lemouth.
• 1:06:31
  SPEAKER_03: F-A-C-H.
• 1:06:33
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, Mr.
• 1:06:34
  SPEAKER_03: Fogg for initiating the project.
• 1:06:38
  SPEAKER_03: Peter Lubin for being blue.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_03: Sally Tibb.
• 1:06:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:06:43
  SPEAKER_03: That's what it says.
• 1:06:45
  SPEAKER_03: Sally Tibbon for research assistance.
• 1:06:47
  SPEAKER_03: And also Bob Davis, Mitch Wiseman, Glenn Matlock, and Michael Searles.
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_03: So this is because these are early recordings, you may notice that some of the selections are fairly noisy.
• 1:07:01
  SPEAKER_03: Using the most up-to-date mastering techniques, we have tried to reduce the noise to a minimum.
• 1:07:06
  SPEAKER_03: Keeping this in mind, we hope you will enjoy listening to these classic cuts the way they were cut back in the early 60s.
• 1:07:15
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so this was be probably before This is 1984.
• 1:07:19
  SPEAKER_06: It was released in 84.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_06: This was, yes.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_06: But they were recorded.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they were these were recorded.
• 1:07:24
  SPEAKER_03: Like there's a you know tribute to Elmore James.
• 1:07:27
  SPEAKER_06: So I think these were recorded around the time of the Yardbirds.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_06: Uh because all obviously all three of them all three of them were in the yards.
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_06: So it was probably like before either before Clapton left or right around that time, because Beck and Page were both in the Yardbirds at the same time, I think, weren't they?
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_03: Uh were they?
• 1:07:48
  SPEAKER_06: I think Beck I think Beck and Page, yeah.
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I think they were in the same time.
• 1:07:51
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:07:54
  SPEAKER_03: If you like this compilation of Greek vintage music, you'll want to buy the other recordings of this series.
• 1:07:59
  SPEAKER_03: The Kinks.
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_03: A complete collection.
• 1:08:02
  SPEAKER_03: The Yardbirds.
• 1:08:04
  SPEAKER_03: A complete collection.
• 1:08:05
  SPEAKER_03: The Kinks.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_03: 20th anniversary edition.
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_03: Small faces.
• 1:08:15
  SPEAKER_03: Slide one.
• 1:08:16
  SPEAKER_03: Eric Clapton, Snake Drive.
• 1:08:18
  SPEAKER_03: Eric Clapton, West Coast Idea.
• 1:08:20
  SPEAKER_03: Eric Clapton and Jimmy Page, Joker.
• 1:08:22
  SPEAKER_03: John Mail and the Bluesbreakers, I'm your witch doctor.
• 1:08:25
  SPEAKER_03: Eric Clapton, tribute to Elmore.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_03: Side two, Eric Lapton and Jimmy Page, Freight Loader.
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_03: Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Miles Road.
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_03: John Mail and the Bluesbreakers.
• 1:08:36
  SPEAKER_03: Telephone Blues.
• 1:08:36
  SPEAKER_03: Eric Clapton with Jimmy Page, Dragon Mattel.
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_03: The All-Stars featuring Jimmy Page.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_03: Down in the booth.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_06: Is this a four album?
• 1:08:44
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, it is.
• 1:08:45
  SPEAKER_03: Side three, All-Stars featuring Jeff Beck.
• 1:08:47
  SPEAKER_03: Stealing.
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_03: All stars featuring Jeff Beck.
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_03: Chuckles.
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_03: All-stars featuring featuring Jimmy Page.
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_03: LA Breakdown.
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_03: All-stars featuring Nikki Hopkins.
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_03: Piano Shuffle.
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_03: Cyril Davis and the All-Stars.
• 1:09:00
  SPEAKER_03: Someday maybe.
• 1:09:02
  SPEAKER_03: Side four, Santa Barbara Machine Head.
• 1:09:05
  SPEAKER_06: I have no idea.
• 1:09:06
  SPEAKER_03: Porcupine juice.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_03: Santa Barbara Machine Head, rubber monkey.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_03: Santa Barbara Machine Head Albert.
• 1:09:15
  SPEAKER_03: Rubber Monkey, rubber monkey.
• 1:09:17
  SPEAKER_03: Rubber monkey.
• 1:09:20
  SPEAKER_03: Um Santa Barbara Machine Head, Albert.
• 1:09:23
  SPEAKER_03: Jeremy Spencer.
• 1:09:25
  SPEAKER_03: And last but not least, Jeremy Spencer.
• 1:09:28
  SPEAKER_03: Look down at my woman.
• 1:09:32
  SPEAKER_03: So this was a reading brought to you by White Boy Blues.
• 1:09:36
  SPEAKER_03: Classic guitars of Clapton Beck and Page.
• 1:09:39
  SPEAKER_06: A complete collection for uh four-sided vinyl.
• 1:09:43
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_06: Alright.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_06: Go pick you up one today.
• 1:09:47
  SPEAKER_06: Now do you remember where that goes?
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_06: No idea.
• 1:09:50
  SPEAKER_06: Just gonna toss it in there.
• 1:09:51
  SPEAKER_03: I think it was here.
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I think all my blues stuff is at that end anyway.
• 1:09:55
  SPEAKER_03: It's next to another blues album, so I think it's okay.
• 1:09:56
  SPEAKER_03: I think you're right.
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's in good company.
• 1:09:58
  SPEAKER_06: Alright, so I have an album.
• 1:10:00
  SPEAKER_06: I have a guess.
• 1:10:01
  SPEAKER_06: Let the guessing begin.
• 1:10:04
  SPEAKER_06: And I think I if I'm not mistaken, we have done this artist before.
• 1:10:07
  SPEAKER_06: It's Jeff Healy.
• 1:10:08
  SPEAKER_06: It is not.
• 1:10:09
  SPEAKER_06: Because we need a microphone.
• 1:10:10
  SPEAKER_06: No, we didn't last week.
• 1:10:12
  SPEAKER_06: It's not ABBA.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_03: Not Abba?
• 1:10:14
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 1:10:15
  SPEAKER_03: That was my guess.
• 1:10:16
  SPEAKER_03: Is it a rock band?
• 1:10:18
  SPEAKER_03: Is it a solo guy?
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_06: It is uh not a rock band.
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_06: Alright.
• 1:10:24
  SPEAKER_06: It is not a solo guy.
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_03: It's not a rock band, but it's not a solo.
• 1:10:28
  SPEAKER_03: Is it a woman?
• 1:10:31
  SPEAKER_06: There is women.
• 1:10:33
  SPEAKER_03: It's Fleetwood Mac.
• 1:10:34
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 1:10:35
  SPEAKER_03: Heart.
• 1:10:35
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 1:10:37
  SPEAKER_03: Joan Jett.
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_06: Notice I said it's not a rock band.
• 1:10:41
  SPEAKER_03: Oh.
• 1:10:42
  SPEAKER_03: Anne Murray.
• 1:10:43
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 1:10:45
  SPEAKER_03: Wow.
• 1:10:46
  SPEAKER_03: That was a jump.
• 1:10:47
  SPEAKER_03: How big a jump was that?
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_03: Fleetwood Mac and Joan Jett to Anne Murray.
• 1:10:52
  SPEAKER_03: Fleetwood Mac, Joan Jett.
• 1:10:53
  SPEAKER_03: It's not Rockman.
• 1:10:54
  SPEAKER_05: Ann Murray.
• 1:10:54
  SPEAKER_03: Ann Murray.
• 1:10:57
  SPEAKER_05: Rosemary Clooney.
• 1:11:00
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I got a family.
• 1:11:05
  SPEAKER_03: Oh.
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_03: Is it Rosemary Clooney?
• 1:11:07
  SPEAKER_03: No, it's not.
• 1:11:09
  SPEAKER_03: Uh Billy Holiday.
• 1:11:11
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 1:11:12
  SPEAKER_03: Is she a jazz singer?
• 1:11:14
  SPEAKER_03: Or is she an RB singer?
• 1:11:18
  SPEAKER_03: They are.
• 1:11:18
  SPEAKER_03: What do you mean they?
• 1:11:19
  SPEAKER_03: Oh.
• 1:11:20
  SPEAKER_03: It's the Donna's.
• 1:11:22
  SPEAKER_06: Nope.
• 1:11:22
  SPEAKER_06: That's a rock band.
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, they're punk rock.
• 1:11:28
  SPEAKER_03: But is it all women?
• 1:11:30
  SPEAKER_06: In this band?
• 1:11:31
  SPEAKER_03: It's all it's all women.
• 1:11:33
  SPEAKER_03: It's the Bengals.
• 1:11:35
  SPEAKER_06: It's two women.
• 1:11:37
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, is it uh as uh Indigo Girls?
• 1:11:40
  SPEAKER_12: Yes, it is.
• 1:11:40
  SPEAKER_12: Yeah!
• 1:11:42
  SPEAKER_06: There it is.
• 1:11:43
  SPEAKER_06: There it is.
• 1:11:44
  SPEAKER_06: Uh it is Indigo Girls.
• 1:11:45
  SPEAKER_06: Have we done this before?
• 1:11:45
  SPEAKER_03: Because I know I don't even think we've done Indigo Girls before.
• 1:11:48
  SPEAKER_06: Really?
• 1:11:49
  SPEAKER_03: Is that the greatest hits?
• 1:11:50
  SPEAKER_03: It is.
• 1:11:51
  SPEAKER_03: Dude, that's that's a great album.
• 1:11:52
  SPEAKER_06: Um the only reason I say I thought we've done this be before.
• 1:11:56
  SPEAKER_06: Maybe we just talked about my favorite song of all time because my favorite song of all time is on this.
• 1:12:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, it is.
• 1:12:01
  SPEAKER_06: Uh so we've never done this album.
• 1:12:04
  SPEAKER_03: I seriously don't think we've ever done indigo girls.
• 1:12:07
  SPEAKER_03: Um because let me check the book though.
• 1:12:09
  SPEAKER_06: Now, this is a big thing for me to say.
• 1:12:12
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, but I've been saying it for a long time now.
• 1:12:14
  SPEAKER_06: That Ghost is my favorite song of all time.
• 1:12:18
  SPEAKER_03: I love that song, man.
• 1:12:19
  SPEAKER_06: Um and I think it's it's it's a combination, and it's written by um by um Emily uh Saliers, um, who is the the I guess you would say she's the blonde the the blonde um Indigo girl.
• 1:12:36
  SPEAKER_06: Well there's Emily and Amy Amy Ray would be the other one.
• 1:12:39
  SPEAKER_06: Uh Emily Emily is more uh is a is a softer side of the indigo girls, and Amy is very aggressive and just hard-driven.
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_06: Um this song is a combination of uh lyrics, just poetry, pure poetry, and um just music that just moves me.
• 1:13:04
  SPEAKER_06: You know, my favorite my favorite classical piece of music.
• 1:13:09
  SPEAKER_06: Have I ever told you this?
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know if I've ever told you this.
• 1:13:12
  SPEAKER_06: I haven't known you for a long time.
• 1:13:13
  SPEAKER_06: I'm I'm assuming I've told you this.
• 1:13:16
  SPEAKER_06: But my favorite piece of classical music, let's see if I can just bring it up real quick.
• 1:13:20
  SPEAKER_03: Is it um Adario for Strings?
• 1:13:22
  SPEAKER_06: Adagio, yes.
• 1:13:23
  SPEAKER_06: From Platoon.
• 1:13:24
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:13:24
  SPEAKER_06: Well, it was not from Platoon, but it was featured in Plato.
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we we I think that's how we remember it.
• 1:13:29
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, it is.
• 1:13:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because this is where the village is burning.
• 1:13:32
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:13:33
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, such a beautiful, moving piece of music.
• 1:13:36
  SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah, I love this piece of and and we have never done Indigo Girls.
• 1:13:40
  SPEAKER_06: Good.
• 1:13:40
  SPEAKER_06: Because I'm gonna play that song, and I may play it in its entirety because if I get in trouble for that, oh well.
• 1:13:47
  SPEAKER_06: Um so anyway, this is a Daggio for Strings by Samuel Barber, and it's just so emotional.
• 1:13:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's a beautiful piece of music.
• 1:13:58
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, really.
• 1:13:59
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, just it's one of those that just it doesn't matter where you are or what you're doing.
• 1:14:04
  SPEAKER_06: You stop in your tracks and just and just listen.
• 1:14:07
  SPEAKER_06: Um so The Indigo Girls.
• 1:14:12
  SPEAKER_06: Uh, I J, there it is.
• 1:14:15
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, so I'm gonna first of all, before I get into Ghosts, um such a great album.
• 1:14:22
  SPEAKER_06: This is their retrospective.
• 1:14:23
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:14:23
  SPEAKER_06: So it's basically their greatest hits.
• 1:14:25
  SPEAKER_06: And they've got such great songs like Galileo.
• 1:14:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, great song.
• 1:14:31
  SPEAKER_06: Um this was a very popular one.
• 1:14:41
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know that they've had I you can't really say they've had hit songs.
• 1:14:44
  SPEAKER_03: Not really.
• 1:14:45
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, you can't.
• 1:14:46
  SPEAKER_03: I don't, you know, you don't hear them on the radio.
• 1:14:48
  SPEAKER_06: No, well, well, probably somewhere, but not pop radio for sure.
• 1:14:52
  SPEAKER_06: No, definitely not.
• 1:14:54
  SPEAKER_06: But amazing music.
• 1:14:56
  SPEAKER_06: Amazing music.
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_13: I try to trace them to be able to do it.
• 1:15:02
  SPEAKER_06: And my such poetry.
• 1:15:05
  SPEAKER_06: Um, you'll recognize this when you get to the chorus.
• 1:15:09
  SPEAKER_06: Right here.
• 1:15:10
  SPEAKER_14: How long till my soul gets it right?
• 1:15:14
  SPEAKER_14: Can any human being ever reach a car to light?
• 1:15:19
  SPEAKER_14: I call on the resting soul of Galileo, King of Night Vision, King of Insight.
• 1:15:29
  SPEAKER_06: I have a song called Power of Two.
• 1:15:31
  SPEAKER_06: That's a great song.
• 1:15:32
  SPEAKER_06: Multiply life by the power of two.
• 1:15:34
  SPEAKER_06: Just about relationships.
• 1:15:36
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:15:36
  SPEAKER_06: You know, and and such beautiful folk, you know, harmonies, and it's just I I love this album and I love this band, this this this duo.
• 1:15:49
  SPEAKER_06: I love it.
• 1:15:50
  SPEAKER_14: Now the parking lot is empty.
• 1:15:54
  SPEAKER_14: Everyone's gone somewhere.
• 1:15:57
  SPEAKER_06: I just want to play the choruses.
• 1:16:00
  SPEAKER_14: Okay, we're fine.
• 1:16:04
  SPEAKER_14: I'm here to stop the crying.
• 1:16:07
  SPEAKER_14: Chase all the ghosts on your head.
• 1:16:11
  SPEAKER_14: Amy on the harmony than the monster bleed up.
• 1:16:16
  SPEAKER_14: Sparter than the chicks played on the gather them, we'll take a look.
• 1:16:24
  SPEAKER_14: Adding up the toe.
• 1:16:28
  SPEAKER_03: Multiply life by the power of two.
• 1:16:32
  SPEAKER_03: Just the chorus itself.
• 1:16:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:16:33
  SPEAKER_03: Just if you just listen to the songwriting in the chorus, oh.
• 1:16:36
  SPEAKER_03: There's so many great lines in it.
• 1:16:38
  SPEAKER_06: Um, least complicated.
• 1:16:39
  SPEAKER_06: Yep.
• 1:16:40
  SPEAKER_06: Great song.
• 1:16:40
  SPEAKER_06: Um, about where she she sees a boy on the playground, tries to give him a ring.
• 1:16:44
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:16:56
  SPEAKER_06: See, when we climb on the wall of tunes, and we we do stuff like this.
• 1:17:01
  SPEAKER_06: It's nostalgic for me, and uh, it makes me want to listen to this again.
• 1:17:05
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:17:09
  SPEAKER_14: Whatever kind of puzzle you got.
• 1:17:12
  SPEAKER_14: You just stick the right photo.
• 1:17:18
  SPEAKER_06: Hold on, they do a lot of that where they m they weave in and out of each other's melodies.
• 1:17:23
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:17:24
  SPEAKER_06: And it's oh, it's magic.
• 1:17:29
  SPEAKER_14: I remember the time when I came to you.
• 1:17:35
  SPEAKER_14: Skip in my class running from school, and I bought you that ring, 'cause I never was cool.
• 1:17:43
  SPEAKER_14: Well makes me think I could start in play dead.
• 1:17:47
  SPEAKER_14: The hardest to learn was the least complicated So so uh I wanna play this one.
• 1:17:57
  SPEAKER_06: This is my absolute favorite song.
• 1:17:59
  SPEAKER_06: And if you don't agree, that's fine.
• 1:18:04
  SPEAKER_06: You can just You're stupid.
• 1:18:07
  SPEAKER_06: I'm just kidding.
• 1:18:08
  SPEAKER_06: Um but I love the words to this.
• 1:18:12
  SPEAKER_06: Um, and I love I think we've talked about this before, haven't we?
• 1:18:16
  SPEAKER_04: What?
• 1:18:16
  SPEAKER_06: Have we talked about this before?
• 1:18:18
  SPEAKER_03: This song?
• 1:18:20
  SPEAKER_03: You and I have many, many times on the podcast?
• 1:18:24
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 1:18:25
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:18:26
  SPEAKER_06: Um, okay, so it's called Ghost.
• 1:18:28
  SPEAKER_06: Um there was a thing.
• 1:18:30
  SPEAKER_06: Hold on, I wanna f I wanna right here.
• 1:18:45
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, there we go.
• 1:18:46
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, I knew I saw it somewhere.
• 1:18:48
  SPEAKER_06: So I wanna talk about uh the lyrics first.
• 1:18:52
  SPEAKER_06: The ghost opens with the lines, There's a letter on the desktop that I dug out of a drawer, the last truth we ever came to in our adolescent war.
• 1:19:00
  SPEAKER_06: Um let's see.
• 1:19:02
  SPEAKER_06: They describe a relationship that has come to an end, but the emotions and memories linger on.
• 1:19:08
  SPEAKER_06: So in other words, they've ended the relationship, but everywhere she goes, it's like she sees a ghost.
• 1:19:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, you if you if you listen to the chorus, I mean, I'm I'm still in love with your ghost.
• 1:19:22
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 1:19:22
  SPEAKER_03: You know that you know.
• 1:19:24
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, so and nobody died except the relationship.
• 1:19:27
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, right, yeah.
• 1:19:28
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:19:29
  SPEAKER_06: So um let me just let me just roll this back a little bit because it's such poetry.
• 1:19:36
  SPEAKER_14: Oh there's a letter on the desktop I dug out of a drawer.
• 1:19:43
  SPEAKER_14: The last truth we ever came to from our adolescent boy, and I start to feel a fever from through the screen.
• 1:19:55
  SPEAKER_14: You come regular like season, chattering my tree.
• 1:20:01
  SPEAKER_06: You come regular like seasons.
• 1:20:03
  SPEAKER_14: Yeah.
• 1:20:05
  SPEAKER_06: And what's great, the music is still powerful as well.
• 1:20:11
  SPEAKER_14: It starts in Minnesota at a place that you could walk across with five steps down.
• 1:20:19
  SPEAKER_03: I love that line, me too.
• 1:20:20
  SPEAKER_14: I guess that's how you started like a pinprick to my heart, but at this point it rushed right through me and I start to drown.
• 1:20:32
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, so this is where the harmonies uh most like counterpoint um music.
• 1:20:41
  SPEAKER_06: There's like two separate melodies going on.
• 1:20:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:20:44
  SPEAKER_06: Um, but it's just pure magic.
• 1:21:02
  SPEAKER_14: All my demon spirits I'm all my demon spirits, I need you the most.
• 1:21:19
  SPEAKER_06: In other words, all the things that I've done wrong, all the things, you know, that are bad about your bad decisions I've made.
• 1:21:28
  SPEAKER_05: You're the best one.
• 1:21:30
  SPEAKER_05: You're the best decision.
• 1:21:30
  SPEAKER_05: I need you bad decisions.
• 1:21:42
  SPEAKER_14: You kiss me, I could find out.
• 1:22:27
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, and you when you taught that songwriting class, I'm surprised you didn't like do a deep dive of this song.
• 1:22:34
  SPEAKER_06: I well, I didn't do a deep dive, but I did play this song.
• 1:22:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because you you I mean you could you could spend an entire you could have spent the entire course just talking about this song.
• 1:22:45
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 1:22:46
  SPEAKER_06: You know?
• 1:22:46
  SPEAKER_06: For sure.
• 1:22:47
  SPEAKER_03: Because I mean it's it's almost unfair to m a lot of the other songs out there that there are so many great lines on this one.
• 1:22:54
  SPEAKER_06: It's true.
• 1:22:55
  SPEAKER_06: It's true.
• 1:22:56
  SPEAKER_06: Um and when I say it's pure poetry, I'm not kidding.
• 1:22:58
  SPEAKER_06: I mean it's um I would put it up there with Keats.
• 1:23:01
  SPEAKER_06: Unknowing with uh Dickinson this bridge that's coming up.
• 1:23:05
  SPEAKER_06: Unknowing captor.
• 1:23:06
  SPEAKER_06: You'll never know how much you pierce my spirit, but I can't touch you.
• 1:23:16
  SPEAKER_14: Unknowing capture never know how much you pierce my spirit.
• 1:23:25
  SPEAKER_14: I can't touch you.
• 1:23:28
  SPEAKER_14: Can you hear it?
• 1:23:46
  SPEAKER_06: I mean friggin' a Jew pass through me.
• 1:23:49
  SPEAKER_06: Friggin' hey.
• 1:23:50
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, and this last one of this this last verse is one of my favorite.
• 1:23:53
  SPEAKER_06: Actually, the whole thing is my favorite, but uh where she brings up Achilles.
• 1:23:57
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:23:58
  SPEAKER_14: Now I see your face before me.
• 1:24:01
  SPEAKER_14: I would launch a thousand ships to bring your heart back to my island as the stand beneath me steps, supper up in your presence, and I know now how it is.
• 1:24:17
  SPEAKER_14: To be weakened, like killing with you all.
• 1:24:24
  SPEAKER_03: I get chill.
• 1:24:54
  SPEAKER_06: So it's almost like in love with the idea of you.
• 1:24:58
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:24:58
  SPEAKER_06: You know?
• 1:24:59
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:25:07
  SPEAKER_06: That's a that's that's a master that's a masterclass in songwriting.
• 1:25:12
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I mean, that's one of the greatest songs ever written.
• 1:25:14
  SPEAKER_06: I think so.
• 1:25:14
  SPEAKER_03: And it's it's it's unfortunate that more people don't know about it.
• 1:25:18
  SPEAKER_06: Uh I totally agree.
• 1:25:20
  SPEAKER_06: I mean, well, there's at least 24 are gonna know about it now after they hear this podcast.
• 1:25:24
  SPEAKER_06: You guys are awesome.
• 1:25:25
  SPEAKER_06: You guys are gonna get a treat.
• 1:25:28
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, uh I can't get enough of that.
• 1:25:31
  SPEAKER_06: And you know what?
• 1:25:31
  SPEAKER_06: I'm probably gonna um I'm probably gonna listen to this.
• 1:25:35
  SPEAKER_03: Well, you know Maddie.
• 1:25:37
  SPEAKER_03: Um Maddie Carson.
• 1:25:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:25:41
  SPEAKER_03: Her and I used to play Kid Fierce.
• 1:25:43
  SPEAKER_03: Did you really?
• 1:25:44
  SPEAKER_03: Mm-hmm.
• 1:25:46
  SPEAKER_03: Did you really?
• 1:25:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:25:48
  SPEAKER_03: Her and I used to do that.
• 1:25:49
  SPEAKER_03: Long.
• 1:25:50
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, we we didn't do it very often, but we did it probably a couple times, and you know, of course, Maddie is just a great singer.
• 1:25:56
  SPEAKER_06: I hate this.
• 1:25:57
  SPEAKER_06: I I don't know.
• 1:25:57
  SPEAKER_06: Is it not there?
• 1:25:58
  SPEAKER_06: It's not there.
• 1:25:59
  SPEAKER_06: I have I have track four on.
• 1:26:02
  SPEAKER_06: But one, two, and three are not.
• 1:26:04
  SPEAKER_06: Closer to fine is not in there.
• 1:26:05
  SPEAKER_06: Why?
• 1:26:05
  SPEAKER_06: Because it did I.
• 1:26:06
  SPEAKER_06: I have closer to fine.
• 1:26:07
  SPEAKER_06: Well, in the the um iTunes, I swear it does something.
• 1:26:11
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah where it just takes songs if there's too many in there or something.
• 1:26:14
  SPEAKER_06: I don't know.
• 1:26:15
  SPEAKER_06: But I would not have not put in Closer to Fine or Kid Fears.
• 1:26:19
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:26:19
  SPEAKER_06: I would have put those in there.
• 1:26:20
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:26:21
  SPEAKER_03: So every every time I think about this album, I think about me and Maddie doing Kid Fears.
• 1:26:26
  SPEAKER_06: This one, get out the map.
• 1:26:28
  SPEAKER_03: That's a great song, too.
• 1:26:29
  SPEAKER_03: Great song.
• 1:26:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:26:30
  unknown: I'm gonna clear my head.
• 1:26:32
  SPEAKER_06: It's funny, the ones that I've played that I like the most are all Emily's songs.
• 1:26:36
  SPEAKER_06: I like Amy's songs too.
• 1:26:39
  SPEAKER_03: Amy's are more a little more got more edge to them.
• 1:26:42
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, they do.
• 1:26:43
  SPEAKER_03: Emily's are more, you know, lighthearted and I'll show you exactly what I mean.
• 1:26:46
  SPEAKER_06: So this is very melodic.
• 1:26:48
  SPEAKER_06: And she's got a pretty voice.
• 1:26:51
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:26:52
  SPEAKER_14: Sitting in a broken zoo.
• 1:26:54
  SPEAKER_06: And they got big catchy choruses.
• 1:26:56
  SPEAKER_06: Not that not that Amy's don't.
• 1:27:00
  SPEAKER_06: It's just two different writing styles.
• 1:27:03
  SPEAKER_03: Susan calls from Boston.
• 1:27:05
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, if you you can almost compare it to Lennon McCartney.
• 1:27:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:27:10
  SPEAKER_03: You could always tell a Lennon song versus a little bit.
• 1:27:12
  SPEAKER_06: Amy Ray would be the Lennon.
• 1:27:14
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:27:15
  SPEAKER_14: Get out the mouth! Get out the mouth.
• 1:27:20
  SPEAKER_06: So, okay, I'm gonna play just a uh This is one of Amy's songs.
• 1:27:25
  SPEAKER_06: Already you can tell the difference.
• 1:27:27
  SPEAKER_03: Oh yeah.
• 1:27:30
  SPEAKER_06: This is a great song.
• 1:27:31
  SPEAKER_06: Shame on you, is what it's called.
• 1:27:34
  SPEAKER_14: My friends, they wash the window, they shine in the sun.
• 1:27:41
  SPEAKER_14: Don't wake up early in the morning.
• 1:27:43
  SPEAKER_14: Sometimes you ought to be dive.
• 1:27:47
  SPEAKER_14: I still have to put off town, do a little all day.
• 1:27:54
  SPEAKER_14: Down to the riverside, take off our shoes, wash these down the way.
• 1:28:14
  SPEAKER_06: Yes.
• 1:28:14
  SPEAKER_06: Um I highly recommend Indigo Girls.
• 1:28:16
  SPEAKER_06: Uh they're iconic.
• 1:28:18
  SPEAKER_06: They've been around for a long time.
• 1:28:20
  SPEAKER_06: Uh I think I don't know that they're they're still out there.
• 1:28:23
  SPEAKER_06: I know they're still out there, but I think Amy Ray is doing her own thing now.
• 1:28:26
  SPEAKER_06: I think Emily's.
• 1:28:26
  SPEAKER_03: No, they're both together.
• 1:28:28
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I I follow them on uh Instagram.
• 1:28:31
  SPEAKER_03: So they're still they're still playing together.
• 1:28:32
  SPEAKER_03: Well, she didn't Amy Ray just come out with a solo album?
• 1:28:35
  SPEAKER_03: She might have, but they're still they're on tour together.
• 1:28:37
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:28:37
  SPEAKER_06: So um get you some get you some indigo girls.
• 1:28:42
  SPEAKER_03: If you don't get if you don't get anything else, just get the retrospective.
• 1:28:45
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:28:45
  SPEAKER_06: You you will I mean it's it just it's just a wonderful collection of You know what's another great one is uh the what was it called?
• 1:28:54
  SPEAKER_06: The live the the live uh thing that they did.
• 1:28:56
  SPEAKER_06: A Thousand Nights or something?
• 1:28:57
  SPEAKER_06: Yes, that's a great album.
• 1:28:58
  SPEAKER_06: Or I can't remember, is that what it's called?
• 1:29:00
  SPEAKER_03: Thousand uh Thousand Something, yeah.
• 1:29:03
  SPEAKER_06: Um because that's got a great live version of uh uh Least Complicated, where the whole crowd is singing and and they're like talking to the audience.
• 1:29:12
  SPEAKER_06: It's pretty cool.
• 1:29:13
  SPEAKER_06: It's pretty cool.
• 1:29:14
  SPEAKER_06: Um can't say enough about Indigo Girls.
• 1:29:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um Well they do a I think do they have that song uh Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee?
• 1:29:23
  SPEAKER_03: Not on here.
• 1:29:26
  SPEAKER_03: It is yeah, it's on that, and they I think they do it with Buffy St.
• 1:29:28
  SPEAKER_03: Marie.
• 1:29:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they do if I'm not mistaken, which is really a great song.
• 1:29:32
  SPEAKER_06: Which actually, did you hear about Buffy St.
• 1:29:33
  SPEAKER_06: Marie?
• 1:29:34
  SPEAKER_06: No.
• 1:29:34
  SPEAKER_06: Came out that she's not Indian.
• 1:29:36
  SPEAKER_06: What?
• 1:29:37
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:29:38
  SPEAKER_06: She was raised by she was she's white, apparently.
• 1:29:42
  SPEAKER_06: Anyway.
• 1:29:43
  SPEAKER_03: Oh interesting.
• 1:29:45
  SPEAKER_03: Alright.
• 1:29:46
  SPEAKER_03: Let's see.
• 1:29:46
  SPEAKER_03: Doesn't take away from the song, though.
• 1:29:48
  SPEAKER_03: It does not, it does not.
• 1:29:49
  SPEAKER_03: Great song.
• 1:29:50
  SPEAKER_03: Great song.
• 1:29:50
  SPEAKER_06: Let me see.
• 1:29:50
  SPEAKER_06: I wanna I want to see what the name of the album is.
• 1:29:54
  SPEAKER_06: Because I want to give the right name of the album.
• 1:29:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:29:56
  SPEAKER_06: So let's see.
• 1:29:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's a thousand something.
• 1:29:58
  SPEAKER_03: Thousand.
• 1:29:59
  SPEAKER_06: I thought it was too.
• 1:30:00
  SPEAKER_06: Let's see.
• 1:30:03
  SPEAKER_06: Uh discography.
• 1:30:04
  SPEAKER_06: We're looking at Indigo Girls.
• 1:30:11
  SPEAKER_03: Drunner mailing list.
• 1:30:13
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 1:30:13
  SPEAKER_03: No.
• 1:30:14
  SPEAKER_03: Um I don't see it on there.
• 1:30:19
  SPEAKER_06: I don't either.
• 1:30:20
  unknown: I think we're on a single album.
• 1:30:21
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, studio albums.
• 1:30:22
  SPEAKER_06: Okay, so we want live albums.
• 1:30:23
  SPEAKER_06: Oh, there we go.
• 1:30:23
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, there it is right there.
• 1:30:24
  SPEAKER_03: Third one.
• 1:30:25
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, 1200 curfews.
• 1:30:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's a 1200 curfews.
• 1:30:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:30:29
  SPEAKER_03: Great live album.
• 1:30:29
  SPEAKER_06: Back in uh 1995.
• 1:30:31
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:30:31
  SPEAKER_06: I think it was a two.
• 1:30:32
  SPEAKER_06: I had it on cassette.
• 1:30:33
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:30:33
  SPEAKER_06: I have it on CD and it's two C D.
• 1:30:36
  SPEAKER_06: I think it's two C Ds.
• 1:30:37
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah, because it was two cassettes.
• 1:30:38
  SPEAKER_06: I know that.
• 1:30:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:30:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:30:39
  SPEAKER_03: But that's a great album.
• 1:30:40
  SPEAKER_03: It's one of the one of the best live albums you'll ever listen to.
• 1:30:43
  SPEAKER_06: I think so too.
• 1:30:44
  SPEAKER_06: I uh I just love their harmonies and just their songwriting is amazing.
• 1:30:47
  SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
• 1:30:47
  SPEAKER_06: So get yourself some Indigo Girls.
• 1:30:52
  SPEAKER_06: So there you go.
• 1:30:53
  SPEAKER_06: That is um episode 175.
• 1:30:56
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 1:30:56
  SPEAKER_05: Yes.
• 1:30:57
  SPEAKER_05: We talked a lot.
• 1:30:58
  SPEAKER_05: Wow, we were just like chatty Kathy.
• 1:31:00
  SPEAKER_04: Hey, what are you doing?
• 1:31:01
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know what I'm doing.
• 1:31:05
  SPEAKER_03: Probably because I had notes.
• 1:31:06
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:31:08
  SPEAKER_03: That was it.
• 1:31:09
  SPEAKER_03: You know, we actually had a plan.
• 1:31:10
  SPEAKER_03: Sort of.
• 1:31:11
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, sort of.
• 1:31:12
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, well, we had an outline.
• 1:31:13
  SPEAKER_03: We did.
• 1:31:14
  SPEAKER_03: An outline leads to plans.
• 1:31:16
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 1:31:17
  SPEAKER_03: I'm pretty sure that's how D-Day gets right.
• 1:31:19
  SPEAKER_06: So this so but this episode, since it was planned out, is probably gonna get like 10 downloads.
• 1:31:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, everybody's gonna be like, they planned it?
• 1:31:24
  SPEAKER_03: I ain't listening.
• 1:31:26
  SPEAKER_06: The magic is gone.
• 1:31:28
  SPEAKER_02: It's probably stupid.
• 1:31:31
  SPEAKER_02: They're probably reading it verbatim.
• 1:31:35
  SPEAKER_05: Alright.
• 1:31:37
  SPEAKER_04: No, we're just I don't know why I just thought of this.
• 1:31:43
  SPEAKER_03: Did you ever see the Friends episode where Joey is trying auditioning for a play put on by Jeff Goldblum?
• 1:31:50
  SPEAKER_03: Probably, but I don't remember it.
• 1:31:52
  SPEAKER_03: But he's he's talking to it, and he's like, What are you doing, long pause?
• 1:31:58
  SPEAKER_03: Jeff Goldblum.
• 1:31:59
  SPEAKER_03: Jeff Goldblum's like, you don't say long pause, you just do it.
• 1:32:02
  SPEAKER_03: He goes, Oh, I thought it was like an Indian name.
• 1:32:08
  SPEAKER_04: I just thought, I don't know why I just thought I remember that one, but I I haven't seen it, I'm sure.
• 1:32:15
  SPEAKER_06: Alright, that's episode 175.
• 1:32:17
  SPEAKER_06: Uh so uh we have to decide.
• 1:32:19
  SPEAKER_06: Let's see.
• 1:32:20
  SPEAKER_06: So this is this week, next week's.
• 1:32:22
  SPEAKER_06: Well, next week's your birthday.
• 1:32:23
  SPEAKER_06: Next week's my birthday, so we'll do an episode there.
• 1:32:26
  SPEAKER_06: Uh Are we gonna do an episode for around Christmas?
• 1:32:30
  SPEAKER_03: Well, Christmas is on a Monday, so we can't do that.
• 1:32:33
  SPEAKER_03: So the week before Christmas will be we'll do a Christmas episode.
• 1:32:39
  SPEAKER_03: You know.
• 1:32:40
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:32:40
  SPEAKER_03: And then take Christmas.
• 1:32:42
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna take Christmas week.
• 1:32:47
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna take Christmas.
• 1:32:50
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna take with me, you know.
• 1:32:54
  SPEAKER_02: I can't stop talking like this.
• 1:32:56
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