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Chuck & Buck 12-11 Hour 2: Moore drama, Old Manalytics & Hall of Fame QB Kurt Warner. · Chuck in the Morning

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Speaker 1: Seven o'clock hour here on this Thursday morning. Great to
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Speaker 1: have you with us, not just good, great to have
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Speaker 1: you with us. And I don't over use that word,
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Speaker 1: so you know that it really comes from home.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you mean it.
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Speaker 1: Ashley Ryan is here. My name is Chuck Powell. Bucky
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Speaker 1: Jacobson not with us today, unfortunately, one of the many victims,
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Speaker 1: if you will, don't read into that too much of
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Speaker 1: the floodwaters that we have right now. Everything's fine with Bucky,
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Speaker 1: he's say, family safe, all is good. But with the
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Speaker 1: waters rising, obviously it was a little too dangerous to
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Speaker 1: leave the household and leave the family this morning in
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Speaker 1: case they needed to evacuate. And so Bucky's not going
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Speaker 1: to be with us here today. Hopefully we'll have him
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Speaker 1: back tomorrow. Hopefully this rain stops, the waters receive, the
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Speaker 1: rivers recede, and we can get back to a normal
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Speaker 1: existence very soon. And for all of the those that
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Speaker 1: have been affected, like Bucky, our best to you. We're
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Speaker 1: thinking of you, and hopefully we can stop raining. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we accept the fact that there's gonna be some rain
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Speaker 1: in the Pacific Northwest, and we kind of like it,
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Speaker 1: most of us, I think, yeah, I kind of like it.
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Speaker 1: But this has been out of control.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, be safe.
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Speaker 1: This entire season has been out of control, and then.
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Speaker 2: Lately yeah stupid, Yeah exactly.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to your frost brewed Corps light shoes,
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Speaker 1: Chill headlines. Cracking their biggest win of the year last night,
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Speaker 1: with what twenty six seconds left in regulation they tied
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Speaker 1: it up on a Matty Vanier's goal, and then in
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Speaker 1: overtime Vin's done with a picture perfect slap shot to
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Speaker 1: win it three to two. The final score much needed
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Speaker 1: win for Lane Lambert and the Cracking last night as
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Speaker 1: they take out the La Kings on national television. By
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Speaker 1: the way final score. There was three to two Major
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Speaker 1: League Baseball Winter meetings concluded yesterday. No trade activity. That's
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Speaker 1: the whole point of the Winter meetings.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, someone not get the memo.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, trade activity. But there were three monster free agent signings,
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Speaker 1: including one yesterday the Baltimore Ravens, who lost out on
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Speaker 1: the Kyle Schwarber bidding. They apparently the Orioles of all
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Speaker 1: teams did just as much as anyone else out there
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Speaker 1: on Kyle Schwarber. The Schwarber decided Ty goes to the
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Speaker 1: team that I'm already on. So he went back to
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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Phillies and the Orioles, who've decided, I don't
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Speaker 1: know why, I don't know what's happened. They're gonna spend
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Speaker 1: this offseason because they haven't spent ever. They then the
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Speaker 1: next day go all in on Pete Alonso. They've they's
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Speaker 1: paid even more for Alonso than what the Phillies did
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Speaker 1: for Kyle Schwarber the day before. So Pete Alonso leaves
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Speaker 1: the Mets for the Baltimore Orioles. The Mariners didn't pull
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Speaker 1: off a trade. They did pull off the most recent
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Speaker 1: significant trade, and that was right before the Winter meetings.
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Speaker 1: But no trades from them over the last three days,
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Speaker 1: but perhaps some growth in trade areas. Who was accomplished
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Speaker 1: the last three days. We'll see if they make any moves.
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Speaker 1: We're still on Jree Polonko watch, among other things. There
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Speaker 1: excuse me, that was a weird sound. The start of
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Speaker 1: the Week fifteen of the National Football League season is tonight.
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Speaker 1: It'll be Atlanta versus Tampa Bay. It's also the start
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Speaker 1: for many people for the fantasy football playoffs. You may
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Speaker 1: want to know Mike Evans is back for Tampa Bay tonight.
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Speaker 1: So is Jalen McMillan for that matter, if that maybe
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Speaker 1: makes the decision on whether or not you start Baker
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Speaker 1: Mayfield to get your fantasy football playoffs started, or Mike
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Speaker 1: Evans or Chris Godwin junior. Who knows, But Tampa Bay
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Speaker 1: will be hosting the Atlanta Falcons. Start b John Robinson
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Speaker 1: if you've got him. The Seahawks will take on the
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Speaker 1: Colts on Sunday. And yes, it does look like Philip
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Speaker 1: Rivers has a very good chance. He's the favorite right
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Speaker 1: now to start at quarterback for the Colts against the Seahawks,
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Speaker 1: kickoff at one twenty five.
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Speaker 2: It's crazy.
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Speaker 1: I don't think there's going to be a morezy story
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Speaker 1: this entire season. And that includes sharn More, which we're
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Speaker 1: gonna get to here in a moment, but Philip Rivers,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about it with Kurt Warner. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: blow up the clock today to talk with Kurt Warner
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Speaker 1: at seven point forty. He's gonna join us this morning.
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Speaker 1: And of course we've all been waiting for Hughes analysis
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Speaker 1: here on the Morning Show all week long, so we
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Speaker 1: can't wait to hear from you and Greg from eight
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Speaker 1: to nine with our twelfth Man Roundtable to talk about
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Speaker 1: Philip Rivers and this matchup college football. It is Army
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Speaker 1: Navy Week Saturday. The Heisman Trophy will be handed out Saturday.
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Speaker 1: The LA Bowl will be played Saturday, and we found
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Speaker 1: out it will be the final LA Bowl. That story
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Speaker 1: broke here today. Correct me if I'm wrong. You know
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Speaker 1: I don't really follow bowl games. Isn't this the first
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Speaker 1: LA Bowl game? As well?
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Speaker 2: It is not all?
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Speaker 3: Ye?
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Speaker 1: Okay, did I stand for?
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Speaker 4: That's the Jimmy Kimmel Bowl originally, and Gronk took over. Okay,
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Speaker 4: And yeah, now it's the LA Bowl hosted by Gronk
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Speaker 4: and they call it something else that I don't quite
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Speaker 4: there's a long name, but either way, it is the
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Speaker 4: last one.
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Speaker 1: Well, well, let me just cut it right to the chase.
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Speaker 1: Only one word that can describe this prestigious.
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Speaker 4: Yes, well, and you'd probably be sad to know it
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Speaker 4: joins the Bahamas Bowl as the latest.
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Speaker 2: Bulls to be canceled. Oh I would mind going to
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Speaker 2: the Bahamas Bowl. I'll tell you that much.
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Speaker 1: Cancel them all except the big ones, tie them into
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Speaker 1: the tournament, and then then we can start a new
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Speaker 1: type of bowl system. As I've discussed numerous times. I
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Speaker 1: don't want to discuss it here again today, but we
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Speaker 1: can just start from scratch and maybe create a different
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Speaker 1: type of a Bull season going forward. If anybody needs
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Speaker 1: any help, Chris Peterson, pass it around. I can fix
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Speaker 1: college football if you will just give me a chance.
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Speaker 1: All right, Well, I don't know there's any fixing Sharon
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Speaker 1: Moore's existence right now. This story broke yesterday. If you
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Speaker 1: haven't heard it, sit down, because not only is it
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Speaker 1: a big story, not only is it a scanned but
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Speaker 1: it also impacts us here in Washington as well. I'll
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Speaker 1: try to get through the details if you're just now
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Speaker 1: joining us here this morning. Sharon Moore was fired yesterday
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Speaker 1: as the head coach at Michigan for cause, and then
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Speaker 1: shortly after that we find out it's because of an unacceptable,
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Speaker 1: inappropriate that was the where the inappropriate relationship with a female
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Speaker 1: staffer there at Michigan. So he was fired. Well, obviously
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Speaker 1: there's some salacious details to this, and right now that's
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Speaker 1: just speculation, so I won't report those as facts for
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Speaker 1: you this morning. If you want to chase that dragging
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Speaker 1: down the old social media trail, have fun. But obviously
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Speaker 1: the wife at home did not like what was going
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Speaker 1: on in Sharon Moore's closet, understandable, and so she had
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Speaker 1: a domestic dispute with him sounds like kind of kicked
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Speaker 1: him out of the house, which he earned. And then
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Speaker 1: Sharon Moore seemed to have blamed somebody else for his
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Speaker 1: downfall and ended up breaking into a home and assaulting
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Speaker 1: someone else whose name we don't yet know yet in
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Speaker 1: the process, and Charon Moore was arrested, detained mugshots. The
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Speaker 1: whole deal might still be in jail for all I know,
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Speaker 1: but he's obviously out at Michigan and probably is never
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Speaker 1: going to coach again. Yeah after you know, it was
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Speaker 1: bad enough that he lost his job and then what
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Speaker 1: he did afterwards. I don't know if anybody's gonna trust
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Speaker 1: Sharon Moore with major responsibility at a major program ever. Again,
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Speaker 1: So how does this affect us? Well, believe it or not, Man,
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Speaker 1: what a twist. The two names most prominently mentioned to
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Speaker 1: replace Sharon Moore at Michigan Kaitlin de Moore and Jed
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Speaker 1: I can't make it up. Nope, those are the two
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Speaker 1: names that people are saying are the most likely to
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Speaker 1: replace Sharon Moore at Michigan if Jedfish is once again
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Speaker 1: victim of his past and being dragged into another coaching
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Speaker 1: rumor situation that he wants no part of, than my
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Speaker 1: apologies to Jedfish. I'm just reporting the information Kaylen de
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Speaker 1: Boor who had said when he was here, he had
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Speaker 1: suggested that the only job he would leave Washington for
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Speaker 1: would have been Michigan. So that seems to be the
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Speaker 1: top of his list. Yeah, and yet he left us
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Speaker 1: for Alabama. Would he leave Alabama for Michigan? There are
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Speaker 1: all sorts of rumors out there suggesting that even though
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Speaker 1: he acknowledges the program's strength, that yes, indeed, he's miserable
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Speaker 1: there because of the way that the community has treated
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Speaker 1: him and his family since moving there. Don't know if
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Speaker 1: that's true either, but Kaylen de boor Jedfish both involved
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Speaker 1: in the Michigan replacing Sharon more rumors. And if that's
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Speaker 1: not enough, I heard one other name mentioned this morning,
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Speaker 1: Chris Peterson.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so every single prominent name being mentioned at Michigan
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Speaker 1: is someone that has coached at Washington or at Washington.
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Speaker 2: It's just again, none of us. You can't make any
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Speaker 2: of this up.
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Speaker 4: It seems like it just gets more and more absurd,
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Speaker 4: almost right, especially with the now with Kaelin de Boor,
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Speaker 4: who you think is finally getting his footing at Alabama, Right,
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Speaker 4: he finally doesn't he doesn't look so miserable when you
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Speaker 4: see him on TV, because he did look pretty miserable
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Speaker 4: for a while.
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Speaker 1: I think he still looks miserable, but go ahead.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but not as miserable.
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Speaker 4: It's like, on a scale of zero to ten, ten
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Speaker 4: being the most miserable. That's what he was last year.
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Speaker 4: I think he's like an eight. So it had seemed
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Speaker 4: to improve. And then, especially with the Jedfish thing, we
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Speaker 4: went through a month and a half.
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Speaker 2: Of is he gonna leave? Is he gonna leave?
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Speaker 4: And then it's no, I'm not leaving, And now it's yeah,
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Speaker 4: not no fault of his back to Oh, now we're
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Speaker 4: all gonna wonder if he's gonna leave again.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And when it happens, it's going to happen quickly.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it could happen today.
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Speaker 2: I know that's I keep refreshing all X over here.
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Speaker 1: It could happen today, and this thing could just absolutely
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Speaker 1: blow up. And then we start a coaching search all
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Speaker 1: over again, and then we'll steal somebody from another program
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Speaker 1: and demand Williams will go to Michigan and we'll take
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Speaker 1: the whoever's gonna trail the coach that we It's just
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Speaker 1: a mess, what a process.
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Speaker 2: It's gonna happen quick.
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Speaker 1: As he said, of all the things that need to
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Speaker 1: be fixed, that one needs to be fixed. Can we
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Speaker 1: interest you in Ty Willingham?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he might be available, and he's really nice.
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Speaker 1: All right. As I mentioned, we're kind of having to
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Speaker 1: blow up the clock to accommodate to Kurt Warner and
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Speaker 1: having him on the show today at seven point forty,
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Speaker 1: So we're gonna break right now. Coming back on the
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Speaker 1: other side, we've got some NFL news and notes to
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Speaker 1: pass along to as well. It's Chuck and Ashley with
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Speaker 1: you on a Thursday Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you keep track of these things.
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Speaker 1: I don't know if you set your watch like your
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Speaker 1: morning routine around us in any fashion. So maybe I
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Speaker 1: don't have to tell you this, but we have blown
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Speaker 1: up the clock a little bit this hour to accommodate
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Speaker 1: the schedule of Kurt Warner so we could have them
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Speaker 1: on to talk about Philip Rivers. So he's going to
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Speaker 1: join us at seven forty this morning. We got the
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Speaker 1: roundtable coming up at eight o'clock, and so we've got
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Speaker 1: this segment to Ashley to talk about a few really
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Speaker 1: interesting stories on a very interesting sports day from the
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Speaker 1: National Football League, and also to have a little bit
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Speaker 1: of fun. Let's play a little bit of a game here. Okay,
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Speaker 1: let's play the old man Oh all right, seems to
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Speaker 1: be a topic going around in the National Football League
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Speaker 1: right now, age and whatnot. So let's play a little
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Speaker 1: bit of the old man game, old manalytics if you will, Okay, perfect,
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Speaker 1: I can't wait. All right, Let's start Philip Rivers. Is
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Speaker 1: there a better chance Philip Rivers leads the Colts to
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Speaker 1: a win Sunday against the Seahawks or that he breaks
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Speaker 1: a hip crossing the street going into the stadiums.
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Speaker 2: Second, one second, one breaks the hip? For sure?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, And.
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Speaker 4: I don't mean that because I just mean it because
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Speaker 4: he has I don't think he's any chance to beat
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Speaker 4: the Seahawks exactly.
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Speaker 1: That's a precisely. I mean, I don't think he's going
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Speaker 1: to break his hip. He's forty four years old, for
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Speaker 1: goodness sake. I don't think I'm going to break my
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Speaker 1: I'm ten years older than Philip Rivers. I don't think
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Speaker 1: that he's going to break his hip. But I think
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Speaker 1: he's got a better chance of breaking his hip walking
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Speaker 1: across the street than he does being activated and beat
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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald and the Seahawks defense five years removed from
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Speaker 1: the National Football League.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, just think about what happened to Max Brosmer,
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Speaker 4: and he's young and nimble and then.
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Speaker 1: Has been practicing, has been practicing the team.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I just can't see him.
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Speaker 2: Nah, I can't.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a great story, and I really thought
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Speaker 1: when they signed him, the idea was we're in the
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Speaker 1: playoff race. Can we get him up to speed in time?
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Speaker 1: Can we not get eliminated with Brett ripping at quarterback
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Speaker 1: or Riley Leonard hobbled at quarterback? Can we just win
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Speaker 1: one of the two somehow squeeze it out and then
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Speaker 1: maybe get Rivers up to speed for the last couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks of the year, and we might have a
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Speaker 1: better option with him, but to thrust him right into
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Speaker 1: this game against this defense. Yeah, it seems he's all
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Speaker 1: for it, and it's a great story no matter what happens.
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Speaker 4: Yes, and again, I wish it wasn't happening against us
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Speaker 4: because I'd be cheering for him. But right now I'm
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Speaker 4: cheering for him to get smushed into the ground.
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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we're crazy. I see zero chance that Philip Rivers.
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying the Colts have zero chance of winning
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Speaker 1: this weekend, but zero chance that Philip Rivers starts and
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Speaker 1: is ready to beat any team in the National Football League,
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Speaker 1: much less the Seahawks and their defense. Yeah, all right, next,
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Speaker 1: one better chance that Pete Carroll is back next season
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Speaker 1: for the Raiders, or that he accidentally craps himself on
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Speaker 1: the sidelines before the season comes to a close.
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Speaker 2: It does get very excited sometimes.
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Speaker 1: The old man game.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is the old man game, more.
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Speaker 1: About more about being old, more of an old joke.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I'm gonna say, There's probably a
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Speaker 4: better chance he craps himself because I just don't think
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Speaker 4: they're bringing him back again.
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Speaker 1: We are step for step on this. Even though I
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Speaker 1: think Pete Carroll is very youthful and is not at
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Speaker 1: risk to do that at any moment. I still think
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Speaker 1: there's a better chance he does that before the season
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Speaker 1: comes to a close, probably in a crisp pair of
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Speaker 1: white pants. Oh, then it would be that he returns
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Speaker 1: to the Raiders next season. I mean, think about it.
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Speaker 1: They brought him in there because they thought they were close. Yes,
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Speaker 1: maybe not super Bowl close. Also is a little delusional
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Speaker 1: on their part, But you don't bring in a seventy
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Speaker 1: five year old head coach if you're rebuilding. Okay, they
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Speaker 1: brought him in because they felt with what they have
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Speaker 1: in house, they should be a player or two and
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Speaker 1: a little bit of veteran wisdom away from being a
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Speaker 1: playoff contender. They have the number one pick in the
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Speaker 1: draft right now, so they if nothing else learned this season,
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Speaker 1: we have to rebuild. We don't have a choice. We
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Speaker 1: thought we were closer than we actually are. We're the
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Speaker 1: worst team in the National Football League. We can't rebuild
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Speaker 1: around a seventy five year old head coach.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like they'd talk to anybody. A lot
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Speaker 4: of people could have told them that you're really bad.
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Speaker 4: This isn't probably the route to go.
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Speaker 1: And I get why Pete took it and brings his enthusiasm.
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Speaker 1: Is like, I love coaching. This might be my last chance,
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Speaker 1: and sadly, I think that was your last chance. So
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Speaker 1: I certainly don't blame him for taking the job. I
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Speaker 1: think it was kind of foolish that the Raiders thought
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Speaker 1: they were that close.
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Speaker 2: That's the foolish parts.
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Speaker 1: And I didn't think they were that far away. I
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Speaker 1: really didn't. I didn't think Geno Smith was that bad.
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Speaker 1: Geno Smith's been the worst quarterback starting quarterback in the
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Speaker 1: NFL this year. It's not even close.
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Speaker 5: He has been terrible. He has been terrible, even worse
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Speaker 5: than when Russell gets in the game. Well maybe not
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Speaker 5: that all right. Next one, Travis Kelsey. Better chance Travis Kelsey,
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Speaker 5: who can't figure out why he's not playing better might
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Speaker 5: be because you're in the old man game. Better chance
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Speaker 5: Travis Kelsey reverts to his.
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Speaker 2: Pro pro both Pro Bowl form.
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Speaker 1: Before the seasons comes to a close, or that Taylor
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Speaker 1: talks him into getting a metal alert.
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Speaker 5: Bracelet just in case met alert bracelet, and I think
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Speaker 5: his old form is lung gone.
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Speaker 2: I mean, did you see him.
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Speaker 1: He seems to think he can find it again. He
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Speaker 1: just can't figure it out. Where did it go?
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Speaker 4: That third interception on Mahomes was not on Mahomes, that
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Speaker 4: was all Kelsey.
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Speaker 2: I mean, as he's like, well, what's the football.
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Speaker 1: I think he's still a good player. I think the
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Speaker 1: Chiefs problem is that they're still acting as if he's
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Speaker 1: still old Travis Kelcey.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think Patrick Mahomes is worse than
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Speaker 1: what he's been in the past. But Patrick Mahomes does
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Speaker 1: not have one hundred and thirty catch fifteen hundred yards
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Speaker 1: from a tight end, yeah, fifteen touchdown Travis kelce anymore.
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Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey was so good and so effective in his
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Speaker 1: role that, yes, he did make everybody else better. Think
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Speaker 1: about it, how much attention you had to pay Travis
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Speaker 1: Kelcey and he still ended up killing you. I think
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs are declining because they're still acting like they
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Speaker 1: still have old Travis Kelcey. They now no longer have
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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill or Travis yr This is this is like
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Speaker 1: Trevor Kelcey, This is like somebody else.
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Speaker 2: He's not bad, He's that third Kelsey brother you didn't know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's just not what you had. Yeah, And
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Speaker 1: the offense seems to they've never had a good running game,
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Speaker 1: and yet they've also had seasons in which, after Tyreek
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Speaker 1: Hill left, will find receiver. But that's because you had
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Speaker 1: this tight end who did things no weather tight end
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Speaker 1: could do.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and now he's not that guy anymore.
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Speaker 1: He's just a guy now, Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Just a normal tight end.
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Speaker 1: Uh smart, Yeah, but he's not impactful. And I think
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs have still under the delusion, well, we got
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Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey. We don't need we don't need this. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: that to me, has been their biggest problem. Final One
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Speaker 1: and the old Man game. I can't wait Joe Burrow
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Speaker 1: retires from football prematurely or can't figure out how to
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Speaker 1: reset the microwave clock after a power outage. What do
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Speaker 1: you think is more likely I had some concussion. Yeah,
19:15
Speaker 1: I might not be aged.
19:16
Speaker 4: I do think it's more likely that he retires from
19:18
Speaker 4: football early.
19:18
Speaker 2: After what he's been talking about.
19:20
Speaker 4: It seems like he's kind of taking that Andrew luckroute
19:23
Speaker 4: of maybe maybe I want to value the rest of
19:26
Speaker 4: my life. I've got all this money, I want to
19:27
Speaker 4: spend it and enjoy my life. I don't need to
19:29
Speaker 4: make more, and I don't need to get injured and
19:31
Speaker 4: spend my whole life rehabbing.
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Speaker 1: We are in step on every single one of this.
19:35
Speaker 1: He sounds like somebody that's like contemplating leaving, not trying
19:38
Speaker 1: to get to another team. No, like I don't need
19:41
Speaker 1: to do this anymore. Yeah, I'm tired of getting beat
19:43
Speaker 1: up and I don't want to play the game another way.
19:46
Speaker 2: Yeah.
19:46
Speaker 4: I heard a stat this morning that he's been hit
19:48
Speaker 4: more than any other quarterback in his career, Like, for
19:51
Speaker 4: his career, including the playoffs, he has been hit more
19:54
Speaker 4: than any other quarterback in the NFL.
19:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, and part of that is his fault. I mean, dude,
20:00
Speaker 1: Tom Brady didn't play the game that way trying to
20:03
Speaker 1: prove to everybody that he was more masculine and physical
20:06
Speaker 1: than everybody else. He was tough, yeah, tough as nails,
20:09
Speaker 1: but he didn't go out there every Sunday trying to
20:11
Speaker 1: prove he was tougher and stronger than a linebacker and
20:14
Speaker 1: Burrow does. It's his own stupidity that has cost him
20:17
Speaker 1: all the injuries that he's gone through. Partly he's at
20:21
Speaker 1: a bad offensive line too, But you know, he's got
20:24
Speaker 1: to be smarter, and so I think a lot of it,
20:27
Speaker 1: not all of it. A lot of it rests on
20:29
Speaker 1: his own shoulders why he's had so many injuries. But
20:33
Speaker 1: he does not sound like somebody that enjoys the game anymore.
20:37
Speaker 1: And I wouldn't be surprised at all if this offseason
20:39
Speaker 1: he didn't step away from it all right, Coming up next,
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Speaker 1: Kurt Warner's gonna join us here on the program talk
20:44
Speaker 1: about Philip Rivers, Sam Darnold and more. It's Sports Radio
20:47
Speaker 1: ninety three point three KHRFM. Hey, good morning, Happy Thursday
21:04
Speaker 1: to you. Yeah, messed around with the clock a little
21:07
Speaker 1: bit here this morning, and I don't know if you
21:09
Speaker 1: need to know that, but just in case it's throwing
21:11
Speaker 1: you off a little bit, I wanted to let you
21:13
Speaker 1: know because we want to be able to have as
21:15
Speaker 1: much time as possible to chat with our next guest.
21:17
Speaker 1: Kurt Warner is going to be joining us here in
21:19
Speaker 1: a moment, the former quarterback, not the former Seawks running back.
21:22
Speaker 1: This is the only city where we have to clarify
21:24
Speaker 1: that in all of America. I think twelve man Roundtable's
21:28
Speaker 1: coming your way from eight to nine. So Greg Bell,
21:30
Speaker 1: Hugh Millan cannot wait to get huge thoughts. Not that
21:33
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear Greg's thoughts on Philip Rivers,
21:35
Speaker 1: but I've already heard them this week. Haven't heard the
21:37
Speaker 1: QB one's thoughts on this Philip Rivers story all week long,
21:42
Speaker 1: and so looking forward to that coming up at eight o'clock.
21:46
Speaker 1: And same thing goes for our next guest joining us
21:49
Speaker 1: now on the program. You know them from NFL Network.
21:52
Speaker 1: You know them from the Monday night broadcast right here
21:55
Speaker 1: on k JR. Does the color analyst for Monday Night
21:58
Speaker 1: Football for Wes, but you know him better as Hall
22:01
Speaker 1: of Fame quarterback of the Rams and Cardinals. He joins
22:05
Speaker 1: us now here on Chuck and Buck. Kurt Warner is
22:08
Speaker 1: with us. Good morning, sir, Good morning, how are you hey?
22:11
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for being with us. I got
22:13
Speaker 1: to know, did the Colts call you?
22:17
Speaker 3: The Colts did not call me. No, I'm a little
22:20
Speaker 3: too old for that call.
22:22
Speaker 1: I don't know Philip Rivers, I mean five years away
22:26
Speaker 1: from the game. Tell me, I mean, is this even
22:29
Speaker 1: possible to be this? I'm not worried as much about
22:32
Speaker 1: forty four years old Kurt. I'm worried about for him.
22:36
Speaker 1: I mean not from a Seahawks perspective. Because it's probably
22:38
Speaker 1: gonna benefit us. But can somebody at that quarterback position
22:42
Speaker 1: be away from this game five years and in two
22:46
Speaker 1: days get ready two days of practice, get ready for
22:49
Speaker 1: a National Football League game.
22:52
Speaker 3: I mean, I can't answer that because I've never been there,
22:57
Speaker 3: and I don't know who who has, you know, I mean,
23:01
Speaker 3: it's it obviously sounds crazy, you know. I do remember,
23:06
Speaker 3: you know, a number of years after I retired, but
23:08
Speaker 3: the Cardinals here, we're having some issues with the cornerbacks
23:10
Speaker 3: and some injuries, and you know, their speculation and maybe
23:14
Speaker 3: they should call Kurt. I remember going out in the
23:16
Speaker 3: backyard and throwing the football around a little bit like, hey,
23:19
Speaker 3: if they call, you know, you know, will I entertain it?
23:22
Speaker 3: And all of those things. So, you know, I kind
23:25
Speaker 3: of remember back to a few years after being out
23:27
Speaker 3: of the league, and you know, my biggest issue wasn't
23:31
Speaker 3: the physical part of it and in terms of you know,
23:35
Speaker 3: throwing a football or or being in shape. Uh, my
23:39
Speaker 3: biggest worry and concern was the mental aspect of you know,
23:45
Speaker 3: being able to get up to speed. So you know, A,
23:49
Speaker 3: I could have success, B I could protect myself from
23:52
Speaker 3: that standpoint. You know that that you know, being out
23:56
Speaker 3: of the game for five years and understanding, uh, you know,
23:59
Speaker 3: the leaks in the game and what it takes to
24:02
Speaker 3: play at that level. You know. I mean, to me,
24:06
Speaker 3: it would be an incredible feed for him to come
24:09
Speaker 3: back after a week and get out there and and
24:12
Speaker 3: perform extremely well. I mean probably even to you know,
24:16
Speaker 3: to perform at an average level after that would be
24:21
Speaker 3: pretty incredible because I respect the game so much, you
24:26
Speaker 3: know that. Even when I was considered it, you know,
24:28
Speaker 3: it was like, man, there was nothing in my mind
24:31
Speaker 3: that said, oh, I can step back on that field
24:34
Speaker 3: and in the short term be the same player I was,
24:37
Speaker 3: you know years ago. I just respect the game and
24:40
Speaker 3: what it is, and you know what it takes to
24:43
Speaker 3: be great at this level. I respected it too much
24:45
Speaker 3: to think that I could be great, you know quickly.
24:50
Speaker 3: You know that I think I could get up the
24:52
Speaker 3: speed and get back there. Well yeah, I mean I
24:54
Speaker 3: think all of us competitors think that. But that's kind
24:58
Speaker 3: of what I look at here, man. You know, I
25:01
Speaker 3: respect Philip for giving it a shot, and you know,
25:04
Speaker 3: for them to you know, try to uncover everything to
25:06
Speaker 3: have success. And I think, like most of us were intrigued.
25:10
Speaker 3: We're excited, were interested. We just wanted to end at
25:15
Speaker 3: least fairly. Well, you know, like that's my biggest thing
25:18
Speaker 3: is I just don't want this to be a bad thing,
25:21
Speaker 3: you know. And you know, I should say another thing
25:23
Speaker 3: that I was concerned about, you know, when when I
25:26
Speaker 3: was even just considering it, and the Cardinals never called it.
25:28
Speaker 3: So it was never anything like like this with Philip.
25:31
Speaker 3: But the other thing was just you know, the reaction
25:35
Speaker 3: of your body to things that you haven't done. Like
25:39
Speaker 3: I didn't want to be a guy that went back
25:40
Speaker 3: out there and like you know, pull the hamstring or
25:43
Speaker 3: pulled the muscle or or hurt something, you know, in
25:46
Speaker 3: the first ten plays of my first hit, because my
25:50
Speaker 3: body wasn't ready you know, for a quick movement or
25:53
Speaker 3: to take a hit or whatever that was. And so
25:55
Speaker 3: that was another concern of mine. And so I think
25:58
Speaker 3: that's the big concern for me, you know, as he
26:00
Speaker 3: goes out there, is I don't want it to be
26:02
Speaker 3: you know, so anticlimacting and he comes back and he
26:05
Speaker 3: gets hurt and you know, maybe what we all expect,
26:09
Speaker 3: and I don't want him to go out there and
26:10
Speaker 3: just get beat up because he's just not mentally able to,
26:15
Speaker 3: you know, to handle the speed and everything that's coming
26:17
Speaker 3: at him and the new offensive and all of that stuff.
26:19
Speaker 3: And so I think there are some distinct challenges, without
26:23
Speaker 3: a doubt, and you have to respect the game enough
26:26
Speaker 3: to to just say, you know, I think it will
26:29
Speaker 3: be hard, you know, for for anybody to come back
26:33
Speaker 3: and have, you know, a level of success in such
26:36
Speaker 3: a short period of time.
26:38
Speaker 1: From a personal experience, and I cannot relate to what
26:40
Speaker 1: it's like to be in NFL quarterback, but there was
26:43
Speaker 1: a time where and I know you're probably picturing radio
26:46
Speaker 1: guy just a dull boy, but there was a time
26:48
Speaker 1: I was a pretty good shape individual and thought that
26:52
Speaker 1: you you know, uh, thought I was incredibly fit, and
26:56
Speaker 1: I decided to go out and play some flag football
26:59
Speaker 1: with I hadn't done in a while, and I, you know,
27:02
Speaker 1: and I did well. But the next morning I could
27:05
Speaker 1: hardly move because I was using muscles that I hadn't used,
27:08
Speaker 1: even though I was going to the gym and I
27:10
Speaker 1: was cardio work and weightlifting and everything else and felt
27:14
Speaker 1: like I was in peak physical condition. I hadn't used
27:17
Speaker 1: those muscles. So that was one of the things I
27:19
Speaker 1: was wanted to ask you about because it's something we
27:21
Speaker 1: haven't talked that much about. I mean, just taking a
27:24
Speaker 1: hit from an NFL player when you haven't done it
27:27
Speaker 1: in five years? What is that going to do to
27:30
Speaker 1: rattle Philip rivers bones on Sunday.
27:37
Speaker 3: You know that anytime I do things now that I
27:40
Speaker 3: haven't done in a while, the body definitely doesn't react
27:43
Speaker 3: the way it did when I was younger, you know,
27:46
Speaker 3: and you know, even just I mean, I think there's
27:50
Speaker 3: something to you know, like when you're used to getting
27:53
Speaker 3: to taking hits and your body's kind of a shock
27:57
Speaker 3: absorber to a degree, you know, so that that it's
28:01
Speaker 3: just something normal, even though it's you know, you don't
28:03
Speaker 3: want a three hundred pound guy ever falling on top
28:05
Speaker 3: of you. Your body just you know, is used to that,
28:08
Speaker 3: and it is used to that, you know that four
28:10
Speaker 3: so that reaction and you bounce back from it, you know,
28:14
Speaker 3: completely different than you know. I might have somebody come
28:17
Speaker 3: up and you know, hit me now in a pick
28:19
Speaker 3: up basketball game and you think nothing of it in
28:21
Speaker 3: the moment, and then you know you're walking around later
28:23
Speaker 3: you're like, ash, what in the heck happened? Because I
28:25
Speaker 3: don't remember anything crazy happening but my body's sore now.
28:28
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just again, it's it's such uncharted territory.
28:33
Speaker 3: I don't think any of us really know, and I
28:35
Speaker 3: don't really know what Philip's been doing, you know, I
28:38
Speaker 3: know he's been coaching in a round ball a little bit.
28:41
Speaker 3: I don't know he goes out there and throws and
28:44
Speaker 3: does a little seven on seven with this, like all
28:46
Speaker 3: of that stuff. You fascinates me because again I just
28:50
Speaker 3: realized what goes into playing this position and how fast
28:54
Speaker 3: it goes, and the details that make the great great
28:57
Speaker 3: or that you know, make the you know, obviously a
28:59
Speaker 3: starting quot back in the NFL have success, and so
29:03
Speaker 3: it's gonna be it's going to be a fascinating experience.
29:06
Speaker 3: And you know, I will be very interested if he is,
29:10
Speaker 3: you know, thrown out there on Sunday, you know, against
29:13
Speaker 3: a really good football team and uh, you know, with
29:16
Speaker 3: three or four days of practice.
29:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the other aspect of the other side.
29:20
Speaker 1: How do you deal with it? Kurt Warner as with
29:23
Speaker 1: it's a Hall of famer talking about Philip Rivers looking
29:26
Speaker 1: like he's going to not just play and suit up
29:28
Speaker 1: for the Colts, but might start on Sunday against the Seahawks.
29:32
Speaker 1: I have a hard time believing Kurt that Philip Rivers,
29:36
Speaker 1: even though he had Shane Steichen's offense, that he was
29:38
Speaker 1: running there with his high school team. Can't imagine he
29:41
Speaker 1: was able to replicate Mike McDonald's defense out there on
29:44
Speaker 1: the high school practice field. So on the flip side,
29:48
Speaker 1: if you're a defensive coach, I mean, what are you doing,
29:52
Speaker 1: I mean, licking your chops, no mercy, getting ready to
29:57
Speaker 1: prepare for possibly facing pill up Rivers on Sunday.
30:03
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think, like anything, you know, you
30:08
Speaker 3: have to you kind of temper it. But but I'm
30:11
Speaker 3: sure people in the locker room are going seriously, like seriously,
30:15
Speaker 3: we're you know, we're going out there on Sunday and
30:18
Speaker 3: you know, in a critical game, and we're going up
30:20
Speaker 3: against the guy that just came off the couch and
30:23
Speaker 3: has been out of the league for five years. I mean,
30:26
Speaker 3: I'm sure that's you know, kind of the sentiment a
30:28
Speaker 3: little bit in the locker room. Now, you never want
30:31
Speaker 3: to disrespect anybody, especially a great player like the you know,
30:35
Speaker 3: when he was playing and in his prime. But that
30:39
Speaker 3: has to be part of, you know, the thought process
30:41
Speaker 3: for this team, like as you said, you know, licking
30:43
Speaker 3: your tops to a degree, just saying, oh my gosh,
30:47
Speaker 3: you know, no way in the first game back against
30:50
Speaker 3: Dust and our defense is this guy going to have
30:52
Speaker 3: any semblance of success. But at the same time, like
30:56
Speaker 3: I said, you don't want to disrespect anybody. You don't
30:58
Speaker 3: want to book past anybody, even though it's a crazy
31:01
Speaker 3: scenario that probably nobody in that locker room has ever
31:05
Speaker 3: experienced anything like it before. But you don't want to,
31:08
Speaker 3: you know, get over confident or kind of look past
31:10
Speaker 3: it and go, oh, well, he can't have success. We
31:12
Speaker 3: have no idea, Like we really have no idea what
31:16
Speaker 3: this is going to look like. So you want to
31:18
Speaker 3: respect it enough that you go out and put in
31:19
Speaker 3: the work and you perform well, you know, to have
31:23
Speaker 3: success and not let him have success. But yeah, there's
31:27
Speaker 3: no question. I mean, as much as we're talking about
31:29
Speaker 3: it and I'm thinking about that, you know in my office, Yeah,
31:32
Speaker 3: you know, like, oh my gosh, you know, going up
31:34
Speaker 3: again this Like what what's Phil up thinking right now?
31:38
Speaker 3: And I know he said, like you know, excited and nervous.
31:40
Speaker 3: I mean I can only imagine, like you know, because
31:44
Speaker 3: you know, there's a part of Philip too that's like, Man,
31:46
Speaker 3: I don't want to go out and embarrass myself, right,
31:48
Speaker 3: Like you know at the end of the day, I mean,
31:50
Speaker 3: we would all look past it and go, oh, it
31:52
Speaker 3: was crazy anyways, until you know, I didn't have success,
31:55
Speaker 3: nobody expected me to have success. But still, as competitors
31:58
Speaker 3: and these guys that have been great in this business,
32:01
Speaker 3: you never want to embarrass yourself either. And so you know,
32:04
Speaker 3: I know he's going through some of those emotions, and
32:06
Speaker 3: I'm sure you know the same thing on different levels
32:10
Speaker 3: is happening in the locker room up there.
32:12
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, it's just a phenomenal story, no matter how
32:14
Speaker 1: the result comes out. Phenomenal story. And we're getting a
32:17
Speaker 1: little sneak preview because I can't wait. I watch you
32:19
Speaker 1: guys on NFL Network every Sunday morning, so I can't
32:22
Speaker 1: wait to hear you break it down further.
32:24
Speaker 3: Then.
32:25
Speaker 1: But before we let you go in our last couple
32:27
Speaker 1: of minutes, I do want to get your thoughts. I
32:28
Speaker 1: feel like to be wasting an opportunity if I didn't
32:31
Speaker 1: get Kurt Warner's thoughts on Sam Darnold and the season
32:34
Speaker 1: that he's having here with the Seahawks his first year
32:37
Speaker 1: in the Pacific Northwest.
32:39
Speaker 3: I mean, Sam's I think doing doing a great job.
32:42
Speaker 3: I think it's been a really great fit for him
32:46
Speaker 3: with what you know, they want to do in the
32:48
Speaker 3: way that they're playing. You know, Sam is a gifted player,
32:54
Speaker 3: no question, and we've seen that, and it's been fun
32:56
Speaker 3: to watch him grow and kind of come into his
32:59
Speaker 3: own these last couple of years. But but you know,
33:02
Speaker 3: I love the system that they're running and how it
33:04
Speaker 3: makes it I think easier on a quarterback with a
33:07
Speaker 3: lot of their multiple tight end sets and running the
33:10
Speaker 3: football and play action under center to simplify some things
33:13
Speaker 3: on top of the other things. I mean, JSN has
33:15
Speaker 3: been incredible. He's been a joy to watch, you know,
33:18
Speaker 3: really come into his own and the route runner that
33:20
Speaker 3: he is and what he's meant to Sam Darnold. But
33:23
Speaker 3: it's been fun. I think coach is doing a tremendous
33:26
Speaker 3: job up there with the defense. I think this is
33:28
Speaker 3: a really really good football team and you know, it
33:32
Speaker 3: probably will at some point come down to Sam performing
33:36
Speaker 3: in the past game against some of these good teams
33:39
Speaker 3: in the playoffs and and can he you know, take
33:41
Speaker 3: that next step from obviously where he was last year
33:43
Speaker 3: in the playoffs and what he's done in the regular season. Uh,
33:47
Speaker 3: to be a guy that can you know, lead and
33:49
Speaker 3: carry this team when needed in the in the drop
33:52
Speaker 3: back pass game. But but really love where he's at
33:55
Speaker 3: right now. I think this has been a great fit
33:57
Speaker 3: for him, and it's been a great start to this
34:00
Speaker 3: he's in so far. For everybody ever.
34:01
Speaker 1: Here, who's JSN most similar to Larry and Kwan, Tory
34:06
Speaker 1: Holt or Isaac Bruce? Which one is the most?
34:09
Speaker 3: Who is? He reminded me, I would probably say Isaac.
34:13
Speaker 3: You know, Isaac as great as all those other players were,
34:16
Speaker 3: Isaac was the best route runner that I was ever around.
34:20
Speaker 3: His ability to stop and start, his ability to explode
34:24
Speaker 3: out of his cuts, the nuance that he brought to
34:27
Speaker 3: the route running, and when I watched Jaysn, that to
34:29
Speaker 3: me is what jumps out. I mean, he's obviously physically
34:31
Speaker 3: talented and everything, but his nuance and details to his
34:35
Speaker 3: route running and how he's able to create space you
34:39
Speaker 3: know by that nuance. Man, to me, he's the best
34:45
Speaker 3: going right now in the NFL in terms of that
34:48
Speaker 3: aspect of things, And so I would probably tie him.
34:51
Speaker 3: You know as close to Isaac as any of those guys.
34:54
Speaker 1: Well, if Philip Rivers ends up beating the Seahawks doing
34:58
Speaker 1: three touchdown passes, I'm expect you, Tom Brady everybody else
35:02
Speaker 1: to be returning to the NFL by next year.
35:04
Speaker 3: So, Jesse, I'm ten years older than that now. So
35:09
Speaker 3: when I was forty four, I probably would have thought
35:11
Speaker 3: I could have done it as well. At fifty four,
35:15
Speaker 3: I am not stupid enough to think that there would
35:18
Speaker 3: be any chance of that.
35:19
Speaker 1: I believe in you, Kurt Warner. I believe in you
35:21
Speaker 1: stopped doubting yourself.
35:23
Speaker 3: I greatly appreciate that, but I don't believe in myself
35:26
Speaker 3: at this point.
35:27
Speaker 1: You need to author the second greatest American underdog story
35:30
Speaker 1: in NFL history. Come on, now, that.
35:35
Speaker 3: Would be fun. If you could guarantee I would have success.
35:39
Speaker 3: No guarantees on that in this business. So well, we'll
35:42
Speaker 3: all enjoy it. It'll be an interesting experience, and I
35:46
Speaker 3: know everybody will be paying attention.
35:48
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thanks for joining us. Great stuff. We
35:50
Speaker 1: appreciate it, and I'll be watching Sunday. Thanks Kurt WARNERFL
35:56
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame or former Rams Cardinals the quarterback joining
35:59
Speaker 1: us here on Chuck and Buck in the Mornings. Coming
36:02
Speaker 1: up next, well, hear from our QB one Hugh Millen.
36:05
Speaker 1: Haven't had his thoughts at least on the morning show
36:07
Speaker 1: all week long on this Philip Rivers story. Greg Bell
36:10
Speaker 1: of course, will join us as well. It's Roundtable time
36:14
Speaker 1: on Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM.