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Foster and Friends Vol 159 "Parity Party" · Foster and Friends

• 0:03
  SPEAKER_01: This is Foster and Friends with former coach Bud Foster and his co-host Matt McDonald.
• 0:09
  SPEAKER_12: Sit here and act like, uh oh yeah, they'll be fine.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_12: Okay, what's fine?
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_12: There ain't nothing fine.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_12: There ain't nothing fine.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_12: And uh my challenge to them when a player nobody's required to be here on Monday.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_12: Okay, nobody's required to be here on Monday.
• 0:24
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• 1:00
  SPEAKER_09: We have less people than we've ever had.
• 1:03
  SPEAKER_09: We have less people to practice with.
• 1:05
  SPEAKER_09: And that was a major concern of the coaches from the get-go that the settlement decided, or the people who are involved in the settlement decided number 105.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: Now from the NSB Radio Network, Foster and Friends.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_01: Here's Bud and Mac.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_11: It's Foster and Friends for another week, and we've got Halloween behind us.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_11: We've got uh Daylight Savings Time behind us.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_11: And now one of the big biggest weekends in college football.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_11: This is the parody party with uh everyone in the world talking about the CFP, and Bud is here.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_11: But before we get into any of that football stuff, I gotta say, hey to Buddy spent Halloween on the boat and watching the sunset and all the guy.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_11: You must have had fun on Halloween, huh?
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, the sad part, I didn't go get a chance to go see my my grandkids.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I'd been out on the boat all day.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_02: We had uh my group and my thirsty Thursday group that we get together.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_02: Uh we we decided on Thursday that we were gonna get on the boat on Saturday.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_02: And uh we we we uh got on the boat.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_02: I think we pulled out of the dock at 1 p.m.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_02: and rolled in about 7 30 p.m.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_11: What a cruise! You could have sailed to the Bahamas and oh yeah, we could have.
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_02: It was you know, it was one of those days, it was probably 65 to 70, but not a it was a little slightly overcast, so you weren't getting beat down with sun.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you wanted the sun to be out a little bit, but it there was no breeze, so that was nice.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_02: We were just cruising about seven to eight miles an hour, is about it.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_02: But um, the leaves were just at peak.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_02: Uh-huh.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_02: And it was just amazing.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_02: It was beautiful, man.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_02: Did you fit?
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_02: Did you fish?
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, hell no.
• 2:55
  SPEAKER_02: We fished for cold beverages, you know.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_02: You fished out of the rice.
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's about what we did.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_02: But uh, you know, but it was uh we just had a good day of fellowship and uh, you know, man talk, man stuff, you know.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_02: We need to have a show about that one day, just man stuff.
• 3:13
  SPEAKER_11: Perfect.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_11: Get a couple members of your Thursday night crew, that'd probably be the best show of the year.
• 3:18
  SPEAKER_02: Uh well, we'd probably say there's too many stories to be told.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_02: We can't, I mean, uh, you know, we can't tell those stories.
• 3:25
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_11: Well, anyway, uh, as we tackle today's show, and we've got so much to cover, and it it just started for me with the Norvell firing, which um I guess we could have predicted um that that was gonna happen.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_11: Um, you know, Dabba was upset about the plane that flew over the stadium.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_11: We're gonna get into all that, and also the president of Florida State.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_11: Also, Kirby uh got nailed, Kirby Smart got nailed when he went to the press conference and started talking about culture and roster size, and that uh irked a lot of people as well.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_11: And so, and then we'll get into the week that was because boy, there was some pretty good football, and now the week ahead, because of the the schedule this week and how uh with the CFP being announced, wow, but we are in a you know, I know there's a lot of parody, and that's why this is the parody party today, but wow, what a weekend and things we've got a month now to kind of settle the top 12.
• 4:20
  SPEAKER_11: I know the CFP was released this week, but man, we got there's a lot to settle yet, you know.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_02: Well, there's a you know, November is always the time of the year that you separate yourself, you know, that the the cream rises to the top, so to speak, and and November that was always our our big month.
• 4:37
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, I mean every game's important, but November, it's the it's really your last four weeks of and it's the meat of your schedule, and mostly it's you know, majority, with the exception of a you know, a few teams that it's it's all conference games and big conference games.
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_02: And they're and now with the CFP, the way it's set up, these are gonna be games that uh are you know are impact games.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_02: And it obviously it starts this weekend, particularly after the first uh poll coming out.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_02: And there's a there's a big week, particularly the top 25 this week.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, so I I think you're gonna see that that poll and that CFP adjust on a regular basis here these next four weeks.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_11: Well, it's never easy to fire a coach, and bud will talk about that when we come back too.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_11: So we'll dive into the uh Norvell situation at Florida State and what's gonna happen, and also look at who could, you know, who could be the the next one.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_11: I've got a reason why I think I know who might be, but then you know, I don't know if it makes sense.
• 5:34
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• 5:38
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• 6:43
  SPEAKER_05: You know, I'm just I'm just not I just did not seeing that trajectory.
• 6:47
  SPEAKER_05: And yesterday was uh was a bit of a defining moment for me.
• 6:53
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• 7:04
  SPEAKER_11: It's Foster and Friends and the parody party.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_11: That's our uh show topic today.
• 7:08
  SPEAKER_11: You just heard as we uh come into the segment, you heard Richard McCullough, the president of Florida State, 16th president at uh FSU.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_11: I think he's been there about five years uh or something like that, hired right after COVID.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_11: Um, gonna get into the uh the Dabo Sweeney postgame uh first, uh, you know, for Bud.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_11: Then we're gonna talk about the Norvell firing.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_11: And it's never easy to uh to see a coach, but uh uh before the game, everyone's tailgating, and there's a plane that flies over Doe Campbell Stadium, and they had Norvell's name misspelled.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_11: It was Novell, Fire Novell, and uh Dabo was not happy at all.
• 7:47
  SPEAKER_10: Soundbite from uh from the postgame press conference after the Clemson win.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_10: That was embarrassing what I saw above the stadium.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_10: It was an embarrassment.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_10: Florida State's better than that.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_10: That's not good for these kids.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_10: It's not good for the listen, you you hey, I get it.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_10: You know, everybody's got contracts and all this type of stuff.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_10: That that bothered me.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_10: And they didn't even spell his name right.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_10: Didn't even have the freaking R in the in the name.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_10: I mean, it's just disrespectful.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_10: Mike Norvell's a good man.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_11: He went to bat for for Norvell, and that's the way naturally it's gonna shake up.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_11: So, bud, you've you've been through it in your career, not not often, but you've seen it never easy uh to get rid of a coach.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_11: But Mike Norvell's pretty smart, what, 49 million with a buyout?
• 8:29
  SPEAKER_02: Huh?
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you know, I mean the that's the that's the thing set up now for some of these power four conferences is the you know, when you you get a coach uh and one that you think is gonna take you to the promised land, and then you promise him everything under the sun, you know, financially.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, and yeah, that's hard for uh it's hard for the assistant coaches.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_02: Everybody talks about the head coach, but you're talking about in and in the today's day, it's not just the assistant coaches anymore.
• 9:01
  SPEAKER_02: You know, it's a whole army of people you're recruiting.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_02: It's just it's a ver it's it's uh I mean it's um it's totally different than just in the last what's I've been out seven years and what it's done with the the size of the staffs and the families that are going to be impacted by this.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_02: And just uh, yeah, it's tough and it's tough to you know for a decision, but I know Florida State's got just a strong tradition, high expectations, um, you know, and and and what they're looking for, they want to restore identity, they want to restore that consistency, uh, a big time recruiting presence, and then you know, they're they're expecting championships and uh or at least to be relevant in in the in the talk.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_02: And uh I think after I forget what year it was, uh that he Norvell, they got shunned in the when their quarterback got hurt.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, 23, right?
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, 22.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_02: Their quarterback got hurt, and then you know, they got shunned in the in the for the playoffs.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_02: And from that point on, you know, what they're 10 and 22 overall, and they're four and um what is it, four and seventeen in the ACC since that point in in four years.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_02: And that's just um, you know, that's that just doesn't work.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_02: Now it's one thing if you're getting like a a Bob Solis, it was at Nebraska that all he did was win nine football games every year, and they fired him after that, you know, because they the the Peterson at the time won and didn't think that was the we needed to or you know that Nebraska needed to go and that be that kind of a football team anymore, you know, the the option and they needed to expand and move forward, you know.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_02: Some cultures don't need to change, man.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_02: And not that Florida State, it's just ever since Bobby Bowden, kind of like with the you know, here's since Frank Beamer.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, finding the the right fit, number one.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_02: But I think more importantly is, and I don't know this, I know uh Florida State is in, you know, really put money into their facilities, but I don't know what their resources are outside of that.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, putting money in facilities is one thing, but then having the resources for recruiting budget and doing the things that they need to do to be successful.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know, you know, what they what they had, you know, from that standpoint.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_02: There's always talk, us in the business, that Florida State is not the same Florida State they were a few years ago from a financial situation.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_02: And um, you know, so as we know it, Virginia Tech, I mean that affected us um with the resource.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_02: Obviously, um they declined in our time here.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_02: Uh Brent Pry and Justin Fuente didn't have the resources that James Franklin has available right now.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm sure Florida State, with their tradition and rich history and their expectations, that's one thing that they're gonna have to do is pony up.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_02: They can talk about a variety of things, their past and all that.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, a lot of these players nowadays don't know their past because of what's happened the last several years, you know.
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_02: And um, you're talking about one of the most storied programs in college football.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_02: At least there was a run there.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't think they finished in the below the top five in like 15 or 16 straight years.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, nobody's done that, not even Alabama, yeah, you know, Ohio State.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, but I yeah, it's it's tough, but again, I think it's you know affects a lot more people than just the one person.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_02: But I do think what Dabo was was doing, he was protecting, you know, a peer, but also protecting the profession.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_02: But I don't you can't put the blame on Florida State.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_02: Florida State doesn't fly that plane, you know, and uh and there's I don't think I don't know what they can or could do, you know, for that that that kind of negativity when it's all said and done.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_11: So when they call for the press conference on Sunday night, Rachel McCullough, the president, of course, saying that we just uh Florida State wants to return its legacy.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_05: It's the legacy that we have at Florida State and trying to get it right.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_05: And that demands excellence on the field and and you know, and a trajectory going in the right direction.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_05: You know, just I'm just not I just did not seeing that trajectory.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_05: And yesterday was uh was a bit of a defining moment for me.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_11: Okay, that was after the uh the Clemson game.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_11: So uh, but you brought up a good point before I I played that bite.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_11: I wanted to get back to it because if you get behind, and and I guess uh I'm on the outside looking in, but maybe that happened a little bit with Fuente and then you know Brent Pry, uh who's such a great guy, but but once you fall behind, it's pretty it's like running a marathon.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_11: I mean, if you fall way behind, it's pretty tough to get to the front, right?
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_11: Or run to the front.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_11: So does that happen to schools?
• 13:56
  SPEAKER_11: Not so much, and you don't have to talk about about tech, but that seems to happen.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_11: Once you that ball gets rolling in a negative way, unless you have that continued forward vision, it can make a big difference, right?
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it I mean it does.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_02: You can't get satisfied or get stale, you know, within your and I'm not talking about the coach, I'm I'm just talking about in the organization, too, as far as your fundraising, and there's so much more involved right now.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_02: And but also that's where we got to get control of you know, this revenue share space and that type of thing, too.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I know our show is about parity, but you really want to see parity, let's go ahead and put everybody in that same pool.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_02: Let's raise the pool to$50 million, okay?
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_02: And then all the everybody's gonna be in football is gonna be in that 35.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_02: And everybody's gonna be looking for more money to get them, but let's make NIL legit.
• 14:49
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and then let's, you know, if you want to pay your quarterback six million dollars and pay him six million dollars out of your rev share out of your 35 or 40 million that you're gonna get, let's let's make you want to talk about parity, that would be the way to do it, and then it still comes back down to like the NFL or in college, you know, it's about recruiting, about developing, and uh, you know, and who's gonna out coach people, you know, and in the NFL it's about the same thing, it's about draft picks, it's about um, you know, your roster.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but you know, they have to retain those guys because they're put on contracts.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_02: And I would love to see us do that, you know, get college football back to that.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_02: But I, you know, uh, there's so much we can talk about that.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_02: But I, you know, I just think you put you start looking at a program like Florida State, I think they're one of those you start seeing what's the sustainability of uh people that's got big big pocketbooks, or you know, uh you know, and I think that's a a place that is affected, has been affected by that.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_11: All right, real quick, Norvell, let me give you the three names, the three hot buttons, okay?
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_11: Uh Manny Diaz being mentioned, of course, and uh uh decorative wake forest, what a job he's done with Wake.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_11: They're ranked 14th in the country.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_11: And here's here's the sleeper, and I don't know if this happens.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_11: Jimbo Fisher, because his buyout is 7 million a year till 2031.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_11: The the story I read was that Florida State can do at a supplemental uh cost to and then they will save money because of the$49 million buyout to uh Norvell.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, I mean that's I think the the folks that you just mentioned are it.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_02: I I I think Manny would be a great hire.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_02: I think what he's done at Duke has been phenomenal.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_02: I know he just came out, which I don't know if that's the kiss of death.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_02: He just came out and told his players how happy he is to, you know, at Duke and whatnot.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_11: But uh don't believe the noise.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that type of thing.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_02: And I do think Dicker at Wake Forest is uh just what he's done, you know, what he did prior to coming to uh to Wake.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, I he just has found a way.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_02: I think another guy, um, I think you know he's not tied into the ACC, but is really making a name for himself is Jason Eckett down at New Mexico.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_11: Oh, yeah.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_02: He played at Wisconsin, uh, understands big time football.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_02: Uh evidently he's really um, you know, he's done a great job at Idaho and New Mexico, but you know, has a strong mentality about physicality and program building, which is what Florida State was known for.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and what they need to get back to.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_02: You know what I mean?
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_02: So Jimbo, I don't know, man.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_02: You know, I don't know, you know, there's a well me too.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_11: I I totally agree with that.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_11: What he I say that tongue in cheek, but yeah.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_02: I if I was him, I'd keep doing what I'm doing.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_02: It's uh there's a lot less headaches on uh to do an ACC network uh you know show and and and getting out there and trying to do what they're doing now.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_02: But I I really think I think uh you know, Manny Diaz is a Florida State grad.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_02: I think he's really turned into a heck of a head football coach.
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_02: I think he'd be a great fit at uh at Florida State.
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_11: Ah, good stuff.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_11: All right.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_11: Well, we'll go to rank, we'll come back as uh, you know, because Kirby's smart now, and and Bud just touched on it, and we'll get into it when uh in our next segment on our parody party here is that Kirby says 105 is not enough.
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  SPEAKER_09: We have more than that because we have these designated student athletes, but we will eventually all have 105.
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• 19:45
  SPEAKER_11: It's Foster and Friends on a parody party with a big, big weekend of college football.
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_11: No better time to dive into this stuff.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_11: Uh, you just heard uh Kirby Smart and the voice of Kirby Smart talking about culture and the roster size as well, which we will get into.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_11: But let me play this first uh before we get into the segment because this is what Kirby Smart said that got him in, you know, there there was just a lot of reaction to it, and especially from Georgia fans, feeling hey, if Georgia's, you know, gonna win the national title, uh, do they have the uh do they have what it takes?
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_11: Anyway, this is what he said in his press conference.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_09: Is is it different culture that that that guys don't want to as much?
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_09: I don't know, because the they were definitely hungrier because there was a motivation to make it.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_09: And you know, a lot of these guys, honestly, they they make more than I made till I was 40.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_09: I mean, so uh it's just a different day and age.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, so there so that's what got him in a little bit of uh reac at least a reaction from uh the football world.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_11: But he said so that he goes, let me explain.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_11: Our roster size at 105 is not enough.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_09: We have less people than we've ever had.
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_09: So we have less people to practice with, and that was a major concern of the coaches from the get-go.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_09: The the settlement decided, or the people who were involved in the settlement decided the number was 105, and we're not at 105 right now, so I don't want to be you know complaining we have more than that because we have these designated student athletes, but we will eventually all have 105.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_11: All right.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_11: So, bud, you got a lot of you got a lot of segment, you got a lot of stuff to talk about here.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_11: First of all, the days are gone of the 140 uh Bear Bryant roster size when everybody was under scholarship, plus the walk-ons now.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_11: It's a different uh it is a different area, isn't it?
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and you know, I'll say this just a lot of people may not understand this.
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_02: I think at one time your roster size in football depended on your Title IX athletes, too.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_02: You know, how many women you had and how many women's athletes uh that allowed you to have a certain number of of um you know players on your football roster, like a place so a place like Nebraska, who has you know so many different sports, and particularly uh Title IX sports, women's sports, they were they had a hundred.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_02: Guys on their on their football run.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_02: They were known for their great walk-on program.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_02: And I will say this, I'm a fan of the walk-ons.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_02: I still think they bring value.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_02: You can't look in a crystal ball and determine a guy's future.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_02: You know, you wish you could.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, we had on our show a couple weeks ago John Engelberger, who was a you know, a walk-on and nine-year NFL veteran, you know, and and uh we've had several guys like that here at Virginia Tech.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_02: But, you know, we were limited because already at Virginia Tech, we had only could have 120, which some places like Georgia might have a few more, that type of thing.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_02: But I do think um you're I think from one fifty one oh five to one fifteen is some, in my opinion, is kind of that you know, that good number.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_02: I I I wouldn't mind seeing you know 105 as your roster and then a 10 additional walk-ons.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, because I think you're looking at high school kids, you're looking at their development.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_02: Those are kids that will stay in your program, will develop, will make your roster.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_02: You'd be surprised how many guys do that.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_02: But I do also think this, I think um um, you know, I think Kirby right now, too, he might be feeling the pressure of a Nick, like Nick Saban started feeling a little bit, you know.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um, all of a sudden, uh, you know, I know just because of insider information here, I do know that um Georgia has they have big time donors.
• 23:35
  SPEAKER_02: Not like what you think in the Big Ten.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_02: And that's where the SEC is struggling a little bit.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_02: There's not a bunch of billionaires in the SEC like there is in the Big Ten.
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_02: And you're who's crying right now and who's complaining are the SEC coaches.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_02: It's not the Big Ten coaches um that are doing that, you know, and uh it's because it's it's it's a hard sustainable model right now with NIL and all those type of things.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_02: And I do agree with him though.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_02: I do think you know, there is a hunger that's different with kids nowadays.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_02: Uh I don't I still think the good players want to be coached and want to be as good as they can be and want to be challenged.
• 24:15
  SPEAKER_02: The good ones do.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_02: I do think there's some guys who get their feelings hurt.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_02: That's just the immaturity of their age, you know, when it's all said and done, you know, you coach a kid hard, you know, and you think he wants to be coached hard, but then all of a sudden he goes in the tank and then he wants to think about jumping in the portal.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but I we need to tear this thing.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_02: And I think what Kirby's saying is, you know, we're you're having to go out and pay or promise money, particularly for high school kids coming in.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_02: It's kind of like what the NFL struggled with a few years back before they kind of restructured their salary base, you know, particularly with their first and second round draft picks.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_02: You got guys that are you know, six, seven-year veterans that these guys coming in are making more money.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_02: They haven't taken a snap in, you know, in the NFL.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_02: And that's kind of what Kirby is saying, I think, a little bit too here.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, let's make sure, let's take care of the guys that are in the program.
• 25:09
  SPEAKER_02: The the guys that are coming in, you're gonna earn your money when you become successful.
• 25:13
  SPEAKER_02: So you keep that hunger and you know, you keep that, you know, you you want to strive for championship caliber play, and then that will bring you your notoriety in your NIL package and create those opportunities for you, not just up front, because in it up front, I think sometimes, you know, kids can be complacent and you know, all of a sudden if they're getting paid more than the the guy that's coaching them, you know, it's an easy to tell them to go screw yourself.
• 25:38
  SPEAKER_02: And you know, I don't, you know, I I you know you need me more than I need you, which is totally wrong, you know, at this age and level in their development and process is if they want to move on to the next level.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_02: Because if they have that attitude to the next level, they're gonna get cut.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_11: Oh, yeah.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_02: They're not gonna play.
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_02: So they're you know, and I guess that's what if they're smart, they're probably they're they're agents or whoever's trying to, you know, play that part early.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_02: But we've got to get control.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_02: And I'm saying we as you know, college footballers got to get control of this thing, kind of like the NFL did.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you we've got to tier um you know their pay, and and but I will say this too, in regards to Kirby.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_02: He did come back after this and said he's for the guys getting paid.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_02: But I do think there's um we need to look at the whole process, and that nothing's gonna happen unless we probably do collective bargaining and that type of thing.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, that's the direction we I think we need to go.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_02: And because of these comments, that's where you're seeing that the coaches feel like we need to go.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_11: If there, and that's so well said, if there is a feeling in sports, correct me if I'm wrong, it is the the the cap, you know, the whole thing.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_11: Baseball is trying, and this is my example.
• 26:55
  SPEAKER_11: Baseball is struggling with it so hard to try to now.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_11: You did have Milwaukee and Tampa, and you know, baseball, the baseball front office, and you know, they were all, hey, this is great, and you know, so on and so forth, and look at these two teams that played whatever, but it's so uneven that baseball now is saying, and they've said this past week, bud, we're we may we may table this whole cap thing and push it back to 2028 and then just try to help with some tax supplemental proceeds that go to the players so we can play it 2027.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_11: In other words, they don't want to walk out, they want to push it back, but there's still going to be a cap conversation come up, but they want to push it back a year.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I saw that just the other, you know, I think it was yesterday that they made that announcement, they're gonna push it back.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_02: Um, but yeah, I mean, I know it even in college football, they're talking about kind of what in baseball, even, you know, if you get the programs or if you exceed a certain number above your cap, then you're gonna have to pay a uh you know, a penalty tax, just like baseball does.
• 28:03
  SPEAKER_02: But then that goes back to your conference and that spreads out amongst your other schools, you know, to spread that out.
• 28:09
  SPEAKER_02: So I I don't know.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_02: There's you know different ways, and um, you know, it's just um but college, you know, you're I think the one thing you're dealing with professional athletes and professional organizations, where here you're dealing with college student athletes and college institutions that are not, you know, business entities, they even though they are, they're not in the sports uh mentality mode, you know, that's all yeah.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_11: Well, anyway, it's uh such a such a great conversation to continue to have.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_11: And I know we talked about a lot, but now as you as we talk at the front of the show with November here, and people if you're worrying about your roster limit in November, you know, you need to be, I I think, uh, you know, worried about other stuff.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_11: Just ahead, too.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_11: We're gonna get into the uh CFP 12 and uh talk about what's going on.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_11: But boy, last week was just another example of college football and what is happening across the board because these teams are jostling for position.
• 29:14
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• 29:18
  SPEAKER_11: Don't tell me that with all these schools getting, yeah, it's it's been way too much fun.
• 29:23
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• 29:26
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• 30:35
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• 30:46
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• 30:54
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• 31:00
  SPEAKER_11: It's Foster and Friends on a parody party, and you just heard the uh you just heard John Summer from Florida, and I don't know what happened with the Gators, but he he he was going after an official and he was on the sidelines and he said I would attack.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_11: So that just shows you that that this is uh where we are.
• 31:17
  SPEAKER_11: But I'm gonna jump to the uh computer again.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_11: I want you to hear uh Coach Venables from Oklahoma, of course, a a really good win for Shane Beamer uh last weekend.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_11: But boy, things are getting tight for a lot of head coaches.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_12: What's fine?
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_12: There ain't nothing fine.
• 31:37
  SPEAKER_12: There ain't nothing fine.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_12: And uh my challenge to them when uh player, you know, nobody's required to be here on Monday.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_12: Okay, nobody's required to be here on Monday.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_12: Uh but if you if you're gonna be here on Monday, then you you better square your jaw up and uh tighten your screws.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_11: So you probably heard that a time or two, right?
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_11: Or probably even said it a time or two.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_02: I I've probably said it more than I've heard it, you know.
• 32:03
  SPEAKER_11: But uh you just be you know, be infirm and do do your best, Clint Eastwood.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_11: I think you guys better be ready Sunday for the meeting.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, you know, depending on what happens.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_02: I'll tell you what, when I just a quick story, when I was playing when uh Mike Godfrey came our first year, and we went down and we played uh I can't remember Delta State or somebody like that.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and we weren't ready for them, we didn't know who the hell they were, and they beat the brakes off of us.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_02: And we came back and we had a full-fledged scrimmage, usually Sundays was your off day you watched film and did the weight room and stuff.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_02: We went back out and had a 100-play scrimmage.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_02: We were gonna find out who the men and who the boys were.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_02: We're gonna separate them, man.
• 32:47
  SPEAKER_02: You know, sometimes you know the rules don't allow you to do that anymore because you have to have certain days off and that type of thing.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_11: But you know, maybe that's what Kirby's talking about.
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, or Brent, that's what Venables is talking about right there.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_02: Getting ready.
• 33:03
  SPEAKER_02: Let's go.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_02: We're getting ready to crank it up, and the guys that want to be here, we're getting ready.
• 33:08
  SPEAKER_02: We're getting ready.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_02: That's kind of what Kirby's talking about.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_02: They're just not hungry, you know?
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_02: They're not hungry enough, you know.
• 33:14
  SPEAKER_02: And Oklahoma's a prideful program, too.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_02: And I think Brent Venables, I'll say this.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_02: I think I'm a good friend with Brent, and and not that that's part of it, but I think he's a really good football coach and a great fit, you know, at Oklahoma.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_02: He's been there and he knows that tradition and expectation.
• 33:30
  SPEAKER_02: It's just they're they're in a different league right now, too.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_11: But now you're gonna take a look at the CFP next segment.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_11: Uh, just a little bit of a uh of a recap and some of the things that that happened last week.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_11: Um, the Indiana game was about as good as it gets with uh back-to-back 60-yard field goals uh that turned into an Indiana escapes again.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_11: Signeti has just proved that he can coach in late game situations.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_11: Post-game, Kurt Signetti after what happened.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_03: You know, we just sort of withstood it.
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_03: Every area was a little I think defense was pretty solid throughout.
• 34:04
  SPEAKER_03: Offense kind of frazzled a little bit.
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_03: The times couldn't get lined up right.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_03: Special teams, obviously.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, our you know, we have a good punter and he had a rough day.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_03: We have a good field goal kicker, had a rough day, and then one of the snaps, maybe two of the snaps.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_03: But you know, we hung in there and and other guys made plays and we overcame it.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, he is all business, and that's why the state farm commercial is uh is so funny.
• 34:27
  SPEAKER_11: So, you know, why why it's it's so good.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_11: But that's what I mean by and and let's look, you know, uh kind of a tease of uh when we look at the CFP.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_11: Number seven, Texas is the only current team in the country with wins against three ranked teams.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_11: And Bud said before we jumped on today, uh number Kentucky, BYU, Alabama, Ole Miss, and Ohio State being ones with two wins so far.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_11: But that's why, you know, Bud was saying, well, wait a minute, what about Alabama?
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_11: Who have they, you know, been how can we still, you know, is that reputation and uh with Alabama at five, and then I love seeing Kentucky in there.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_11: That's you know, that brings some life to, and again, we'll we'll talk more about it next time, but that really brings to life what's happening.
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_11: But last weekend, but wow, the things that happened last weekend were crazy.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, you know, just you're looking at the the top 25.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, just you know, every game was such a a dogfight.
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, now you go down to Boise State, 146-45, who's probably the front runner to be the group of six to get in, you know.
• 35:31
  SPEAKER_02: But then you got the Miami-North Carolina game.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_02: You we we talked about the Indiana-Minnesota game.
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_02: Well, I think Minnesota's a really good football team.
• 35:40
  SPEAKER_02: Uh USC is kind of an up and down team, but a great win against Ohio State.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_02: Oklahoma State loses 51-49 to Iowa State.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, just a lot of close football games.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, Oregon Northwestern, 30, you know, Oregon struggle, but then, you know, an up-and-coming Northwestern team, you know, they beat them.
• 36:00
  SPEAKER_02: And just um BYU 27-20 over that's over Arizona State.
• 36:06
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's you're just getting in this at the meat of your schedule and conference teams that know you, know how to prepare for you, and and that's what makes it challenging.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_02: And I and uh and I I just look at the CFP.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_02: I know we'll talk about it, but how can Alabama, this is uh just the same scenario as we had, you'd think they they would learn the CFP commitment committee would learn from a year ago, uh, like between the Miami and uh Notre Dame.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_02: They Miami you know Notre Dame or Miami beat them head to head.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_02: Here you got Tennessee 6-2 and Kentucky and Alabama six and two, and you know, Tennessee's eight spots below them.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, in my opinion, that should be reversed.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_02: I do think, yeah, Texas has beaten a couple uh ranked teams, but those games, you know, when you start looking at the body of work of some of these teams that are in that, their victories against some other quality opponents different than Texas.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_02: I think, in my opinion, I mean, I think Texas is really talented.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think they're playing to the level of their talent, you know, in my opinion.
• 37:12
  SPEAKER_02: And I think that needs to be looked into too.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_02: And does that go back to coaching?
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_02: Does it go back to um variety of things, you know?
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_02: But I mean, that's I'm not on a committee, so those would be my my points of view.
• 37:27
  SPEAKER_11: Well, you've proven you need to be, yeah, you you've proven you need to be on a committee.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_11: You've proven that, right?
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_02: They gotta have too many political people on that crap, not enough, not enough football people, you know what I mean?
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_02: There's not enough football people about you know about who makes the decisions on what's best for the game, you know, when it's all said and done.
• 37:46
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, and so when you had, but here's so with the the escape over Minnesota, I was talking about Indiana, they have zero ranked wins this season, uh, and which is hard to believe, and have four of their five wins over power conference schools coming by one score.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_11: And then you, as I said, you get into Miami, and what happened with their escape against Carolina?
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_11: Carolina had them, you know, had Miami on their ropes, and now, of course, tonight they've got being Saturday since the show is airing uh um most most places on Saturday.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_11: Now, with the Notre Dame game, Mario Cristobal says, God, that Carolina win came at a great time.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_08: You never look at us getting through it, you know what I mean?
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_08: We we just got to keep working it because you really don't know, right?
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_08: There's so many having two plays on a third down to be able to go for a fourth down, making it manageable, getting it right.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_08: That was a huge part of it, too.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_08: But you know, if you just keep playing, if you just keep focusing on getting your job done on the next play, finishing up and going on the next one, you give yourself the best chance.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_08: It's really a good experience for our team.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_08: It's really good to go on the road.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_08: Just again, really proud of our guys for finding finding a way to get it done.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_08: All the stuff to be fixed, we'll fix that to me.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, so there you go.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_11: With the and now with Notre Dame.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_11: And now the the talking heads are saying that if Notre Dame doesn't win this weekend against Miami, they could be out.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_11: And they may have to figure out a way to here we go again.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_11: With does Notre Dame deserve a spot in the college, you know, in the college football playoffs.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_02: And I I I do think this, I I I think there's some blue bloods that automatically, this is just my opinion, being involved in this for 40 years, you know, in the profession, um, that I do think there's some blue buds that get more credit than they deserve in in, you know, in in some of these rankings and and um and you know, whether it's the AP or the, you know, I think the coaches poll sometimes, they they they have a tendency to align with uh what the writers do.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_02: But um I think the CFP is a group that's can be different and can do it right.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_02: And um but I do think they follow along.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_02: I think the big thing about Indiana is you know, until you beat the man, you gotta keep the man in, as long as he's in position, you gotta keep the man, you know, in play.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_02: You know, and right now I I think they are very adequate at best on offense.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_02: I think they're still extremely dynamic on defense.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_02: And um, but they they've won and know how to win those tight games.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_02: And they still got a they you know, they got a great schedule too.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_02: But at the same time, uh, I think that's why they're up there, you know, because they are the defending national champ.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_02: They've uh you know, they've they've got a they've got a good football team, but there's a couple teams in there that I I you know that I think it needs to that it's it's set on them because of their past and their history and their tradition.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_11: Yeah, great.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_11: And by the way, the Big 12 uh could also be, I wonder um number uh Utah number three, the highest ranked team from the league, number nine BYU has a chance to to change the whole playoff picture, and they have the holy war, you know, this weekend.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_02: Well, yeah, I was gonna say they play this week, you know.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_02: And I'll say this I think I think Utah is can be is a really good football team.
• 41:15
  SPEAKER_02: They've got a double-headed monster with they play two quarterbacks that are multiple athletes.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, this that's a unique system offensively that can present a bunch of problems for anybody.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_02: Now, can they sustain it week after week in a playoff matchup kind of deal?
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_02: Or, you know, if when you have a one and done kind of the old PCS championship game where you have a month to prepare, then yeah, you can create some problems.
• 41:41
  SPEAKER_02: But if you have to go week after week after week for a few weeks to, you know, to and and and that juggernaut, it'd be interesting to see.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_02: But I think they're the to me, they're the unique team out of this whole bunch that in in my opinion is a sleeper.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_11: Spoken, spoken like a true defensive coordinator.
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_11: We'll go to Brent.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_11: We'll go to Brent and come back.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_11: We'll look at the CFP, kind of give you the rundown and get ready for the weekend.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_11: As we said, it is going to be another great one.
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• 43:21
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• 43:23
  SPEAKER_11: And so we had to, because every other talking head in the world is uh looking at the first CFP, Hunter Yurichak, our good friend, former associate AD at Virginia and Coastal Carolina and Houston, made his track, and so he's heading up the CFP committee and has to, you know, put on his uh six, he has to put on his guns and answer the questions and uh with all that, but yeah, there's just so many.
• 43:46
  SPEAKER_11: But that's I guess that's why we love it.
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_11: And uh it happens in March with the NCAA basketball tournament, too.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_11: Everybody debates this and this, and why you're a four seed and so on and so forth.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_11: So, but let me ask you then, as you look at the the first ranking.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_11: Any surprises, any no-shows, anything that you don't think uh should be there?
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, we mentioned it earlier.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_02: I think the surprise is Alabama to me, and them at five and Tennessee not in the mix.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, that's we mentioned it earlier.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_02: That's kind of the same scenario we had with Miami and and Notre Dame last year.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_02: You know, they're head-to-head.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_02: That's just my take on it right now.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, other than that, I think it's it's pretty good.
• 44:29
  SPEAKER_02: Uh to me, I know Kentucky's had a heck of a year.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_02: They might be, in my opinion, a little higher than I think they probably are as a football team.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_02: Those would be the two, you know, in my opinion.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_02: I think Alabama, I think they're getting a nod.
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, they obviously they've had some big wins.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, I mean, they beat the brakes off of Kentucky, but those two to me, I think my Kentucky's had a heck of a year.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_02: I think they're higher than they should be.
• 44:55
  SPEAKER_02: And then I do think Alabama and Tennessee should be flipped, in my opinion.
• 44:59
  SPEAKER_11: And how about Bob Tessie and what he's done with UCLA, too?
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_11: And UCLA at number eight could be higher ahead of, and and if you look at the bottom of the the player, but by the way, the top four Miami, Georgia, Utah, Indiana, right now.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_11: Right now.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_11: We've got four more, you know, weeks to go and before the final reveal and so on and so forth.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_11: But they're the teams that would get the the bye, as as uh Bud was just talking about.
• 45:22
  SPEAKER_11: But Notre Dame, the committee did something I thought kind of they put Notre Dame at 11.
• 45:27
  SPEAKER_11: So if Notre Dame wins and has a good that they can stay in the playoff without losing that power of five, you know, power group of five uh uh position where Ohio State sitting at number 12, and then maybe maybe Ohio State's in a little bit of trouble without their without their quarterback.
• 45:44
  SPEAKER_11: But I do agree with you now, too.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_11: Texas has been so average.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_11: You know, I know they the couple of big wins and so on, and so on, but they go as Arch Manning goes, and so I'm not so sure.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_02: It's been pretty inconsistent.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_02: I do think you know, UCLA has a great uh chance because of their schedule.
• 46:03
  SPEAKER_02: They've had probably of the top 12 right there, they've had by far the easiest schedule.
• 46:09
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they beat a they beat uh you know their biggest challenge, and this was Oregon, which was a big win at Oregon.
• 46:16
  SPEAKER_02: But everybody, everything else, they have not played a ranked football team, you know, and they're at Minnesota, which will be a big test.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_02: I know Minnesota's coming off a tough loss.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_02: They can't let the Indiana game, they can't have a hangover, but Minnesota's capable of beating this football team.
• 46:31
  SPEAKER_02: And uh, you know, and in the elements, you know, I'm sure they're wishing for it to be real cold and windy, you know, up there in Minneapolis, St.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_02: Paul.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_02: But uh, you know, they go to Illinois or they have Illinois, they go to Michigan and have USC.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_02: And then I I think uh, you know, they're in a position to be in the top 12, but I do think they by far have had the easiest schedule of any of the um, you know those programs that are listed in the in the top 12.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_11: Well, anyway, it's gonna be a great weekend.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_11: And uh next week uh we've got uh a sports psychologist who's gonna help us sort some things out, so that ought to be fun too.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_11: But have, hey, have a great college weekend, okay?
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_02: I'm actually I'm gonna be in Dallas.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_02: I'm flying down.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_11: Oh, of course you are.
• 47:19
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• 47:22
  SPEAKER_11: Have fun.
• 47:22
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