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EP773 - TL Nuggets #233 - The Ongoing Rescue Operation Of The Iranian People · The Thought Leader Revolution Podcast

• 0:03
  Nicky Billou: America was born in a fight for freedom.
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  Nicky Billou: Throughout its history, America has gone to bat for free peoples.
• 0:11
  Nicky Billou: I don't think this is going to be another forever war in any case,
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  Nicky Billou: but I think if the United States leaves without putting the Iranian people
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  Nicky Billou: on a footing to be able to overthrow this regime,
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  Nicky Billou: we will have missed a historic opportunity to defeat a genocidal evil.
• 0:28
  Larry Elder: I am Larry Elder. We are Salem News Channel. And we're about an hour away or so, less than an hour away from President Trump giving a primetime address about the state of the war in Iran. We're carrying it live right here on Salem News Channel.
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  Larry Elder: By popular demand, we're bringing back one of my guests, international bestselling author of several books, Born in Tehran, Iran to Christian Parents.
• 0:51
  Larry Elder: When he's a teenager, his family immigrated to Canada for their safety.
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  Larry Elder: He is a magna cum laude graduate of Georgetown University, obviously couldn't get into Brown.
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  Larry Elder: Please welcome back, Nikki Bellew.
• 1:03
  Larry Elder: Good to be here, Larry. Thanks for having me. How are you?
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  Larry Elder: I'm great, Nikki. What do you think the president's going to say tonight?
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  Nicky Billou: Well, Larry, you know, Donald Trump is nothing if not completely unpredictable.
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  Nicky Billou: But I'll tell you what I think he ought to say tonight.
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  Nicky Billou: How about we start there?
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  Nicky Billou: Okay.
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  Nicky Billou: Let's see it.
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  Nicky Billou: All right.
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  Nicky Billou: I think the first thing he's got to do is say that the primary mission parameters that he laid out for going in and beginning Operation Epic Fury have been met because they have.
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  Nicky Billou: Iran's nuclear capability has been severely degraded.
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  Nicky Billou: Its ability to threaten its neighbors right now is non-existent.
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  Nicky Billou: Its Air Force and its Navy that was controlled by the IRGC is no longer a threat.
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  Nicky Billou: And it's coming close to the point where the regime is ready to be toppled.
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  Nicky Billou: I think those are the things that he needs to lay out to the American people.
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  Nicky Billou: I think he also ought to lay out to the American people that besides the importance of the United States from a geopolitical point of view,
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  Nicky Billou: to make sure that this evil Nazi-like regime never had the ability to use nuclear weapons to threaten America,
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  Nicky Billou: to threaten Israel, to threaten the world, that America is a country, really, that's all about freedom.
• 2:22
  Nicky Billou: America was born in a battle, in a fight for freedom.
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  Nicky Billou: And throughout its history, America has gone to bat for free peoples.
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  Nicky Billou: I mean, look at World War I.
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  Nicky Billou: America came out on the side of the Allies and helped defeat the Axis, which basically were the aggressive powers in that war.
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  Nicky Billou: And it helped bring freedom, and the vision was to bring democracy to the world.
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  Nicky Billou: That didn't end up being a perfect thing that happened everywhere, but that was the vision that Woodrow Wilson spattled out at the end of World War I.
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  Nicky Billou: World War II. America said that we're coming here to defeat the forces of evil, defeat the forces
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  Nicky Billou: of Nazism and militarism. And the objective there really was unconditional surrender to make sure
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  Nicky Billou: that the aggressive powers that were in charge in those countries were no longer going to be in
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  Nicky Billou: charge. Those are the sorts of things that America has done. Regime change in these cases has been
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  Nicky Billou: a positive good for the world. And I think President Trump ought to make the case that
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  Nicky Billou: today's Islamic Republic is a similar type of aggressive power with aggressive designs
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  Nicky Billou: on making sure that they turn the world into an Islamic caliphate, they destroy America,
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  Nicky Billou: they destroy Western civilization, and they oppress their own people. And America stands
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  Nicky Billou: with people that are out there fighting for their freedom. And one of the things that America wants
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  Nicky Billou: to make sure is that this evil genocidal regime can no longer threaten the world, which means
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  Nicky Billou: it's got to go. And I think the president ought to make that case. Even if he's talking to
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  Nicky Billou: Pezashkian, who is the so-called president of Iran, and he's saying this guy is not as crazy
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  Nicky Billou: or radical as the other people. If he's part of the Islamic regime, and he is, he can't be
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  Nicky Billou: negotiated with. You can't negotiate with evil. And I think that's the case he ought to make.
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  Nicky Billou: Whether he will make it or not, I don't know.
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  Nicky Billou: There seem to be people inside the administration right now that want to quickly wind down this war.
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  Nicky Billou: They want to declare victory and go home.
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  Nicky Billou: There's people in the America First movement that don't like it.
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  Nicky Billou: They want to show that this isn't going to be another forever war.
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  Nicky Billou: I don't think this is going to be another forever war in any case.
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  Nicky Billou: But I think if the United States leaves without putting the Iranian people on a footing to be able to overthrow this regime,
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  Nicky Billou: we will have missed a historic opportunity to defeat a genocidal evil,
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  Nicky Billou: It's tyrannical evil.
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  Nicky Billou: And instead, have the people of Iran be able to choose their own destiny and bring freedom to the Middle East.
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  Nicky Billou: And this, from a geopolitical point of view, Larry, you and I have talked about this a number of times, is only going to be good for America and the world.
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  Nicky Billou: An Iran that's pro-Western, an Iran that's pro-America, is an Iran that will not be funding terrorist proxies, is an Iran that won't be causing chaos all over the world.
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  Nicky Billou: It's an Iran that will be a partner in keeping the Middle East a stable place.
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  Nicky Billou: And when that happens, my friend, I believe the Abrahamic force will be extended to Saudi Arabia and other countries in the Middle East.
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  Nicky Billou: You're going to be able to sideline the so-called Palestinian Hamas types because they're not going to have the funding or the backing to be able to do anything that's going to cause instability in the region.
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  Nicky Billou: And you're going to see a flowering of peace and prosperity, the likes of which the Middle East hasn't seen in centuries.
• 5:41
  Larry Elder: Nikki, this war, aside from the MAGA base, is deeply unpopular here in America, according to most polls I've seen.
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  Larry Elder: One of the reasons is that when Donald Trump took out those three nuclear sites, he said that he set back the Iranian nuclear program, I think he said, for generations.
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  Larry Elder: Sometimes he said for decades.
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  Larry Elder: Then within a few months, we went back.
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  Larry Elder: People don't trust what Donald Trump is saying about the progress of the war.
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  Larry Elder: If you are Donald Trump, how do you get over that?
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  Nicky Billou: I think you get over that by speaking to people's hearts. I don't think you get over that by reciting a bunch of statistics that we've blown up this many nuclear reactors, that we've knocked out this many ICBM missiles or missile capabilities or drones.
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  Nicky Billou: I think you speak to people's hearts and the way you speak to their hearts is you speak about America, who America is, what America has always stood for and how America has always been a country that stood up for those that stand up for freedom.
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  Nicky Billou: I think that's going to speak to the heart of Americans.
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  Nicky Billou: And I also think he's got to make the case that America is going to be out of this war within a very short period of time.
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  Nicky Billou: He's got to make that point.
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  Nicky Billou: He's got to make it now.
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  Nicky Billou: He's got to make it powerfully.
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  Nicky Billou: because if this looks like it's going to be something that's going to drag on and on,
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  Nicky Billou: and if that's what people believe, his support's going to plummet,
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  Nicky Billou: and the Republican Party is going to get slaughtered in the midterms.
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  Nicky Billou: But if the United States is able to get out of the Middle East and end this war and widen down,
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  Nicky Billou: and I believe it's going to be able to do that in the month of April,
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  Nicky Billou: then I think Donald Trump is in a position to be seen as a great liberator,
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  Nicky Billou: the way Ronald Reagan was, and to a lesser extent,
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  Nicky Billou: the way that George Bush the Elder was when the Berlin Wall fell.
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  Nicky Billou: This is potentially a Berlin Wall moment.
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  Nicky Billou: And Donald Trump needs to make that case.
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  Nicky Billou: He needs to show pictures of these young Iranians who've been murdered by the regime.
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  Nicky Billou: He needs to show pictures of what the Mullahs have said they're going to do to America and Israel.
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  Nicky Billou: He's got to make his case.
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  Nicky Billou: He's got to touch people's hearts.
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  Nicky Billou: He's got to arouse the American people to a bit of righteous anger.
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  Nicky Billou: And if he does that, they're going to be on his side.
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  Nicky Billou: But if he tries to tell the story of bits and bytes and numbers and statistics, it's game over.
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  Nicky Billou: The American people are a people that have always stood up for freedom, freedom for America, but also freedom for other people.
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  Nicky Billou: That's one of the reasons that America stood so strong in World War II.
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  Nicky Billou: That's one of the reasons America stood the course during the Cold War.
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  Nicky Billou: And you've got to make the case.
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  Nicky Billou: You've got to make it powerfully.
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  Nicky Billou: And I think it's important that he's speaking to the people and he's having a primetime address.
• 8:12
  Nicky Billou: He's not letting the media filter what he's saying.
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  Nicky Billou: That's the only way he's going to reach the American people.
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  Nicky Billou: Ronald Reagan was brilliant at that.
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  Nicky Billou: That's one of the reasons that they called him the great communicator.
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  Nicky Billou: That's one of the reasons that he left office with the highest approval rating of any president in American history.
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  Nicky Billou: Donald Trump has a chance to do that. I hope he takes it.
• 8:30
  Larry Elder: Nikki, we have less than two minutes left.
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  Larry Elder: What is the president going to say about the Strait of Hormuz and the price of oil?
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  Nicky Billou: I think what he's going to say is that the Iranians want to cease fire and they're willing to do something around the Strait of Hormuz to do that.
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  Nicky Billou: I think he's also going to call upon European countries, the so-called allies and NATO,
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  Nicky Billou: to say, you guys have not done your part to keep this strait open.
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  Nicky Billou: And frankly, it matters more to you than it does to us because we get only 1% of our oil
• 8:58
  Nicky Billou: from the Middle East.
• 8:59
  Nicky Billou: And he's going to tell the world that the Strait of Hormuz is something that is important,
• 9:06
  Nicky Billou: that is strategic and in their interest to fight for.
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  Nicky Billou: And I think he's going to make that case strongly and powerfully.
• 9:13
  Larry Elder: If he says, Nicky, we have a little less than a minute, we're going to leave shortly.
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  Larry Elder: How does that square with his assertion, his demand for, quote, unconditional surrender?
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  Nicky Billou: Look, the Iranian regime right now, the mullahs, have been decimated.
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  Nicky Billou: There's not a lot of them left.
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  Nicky Billou: And frankly, all he's got to do is make sure that enough of their command and control infrastructure,
• 9:37
  Nicky Billou: especially of the IRGC, has been destroyed.
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  Nicky Billou: that when America stops bombing, the Iranian people can act as boots on the ground and overthrow these bastards.
• 9:46
  Nicky Billou: I think we're close to that. I think we're really, really close to that, Larry.
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  Nicky Billou: And I can talk after the break about videos I'm seeing of Iranians that have been provided with some weapons
• 9:55
  Nicky Billou: who are going out hunting for IRGC and besiege people and shooting them.
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  Larry Elder: Wow. All right, Nikki, let's talk after President Trump has given his address
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  Larry Elder: and find out how it tracks with what you think he should be saying and should have said.
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  Larry Elder: All this and more, Nikki, as always, thank you very much for coming on.
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  Larry Elder: I appreciate it.
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  Nicky Billou: God bless you, brother.
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  Nicky Billou: Thanks for having me.
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  Larry Elder: God bless you.
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  Larry Elder: Take care.
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