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VindiKATIEd - RHOC Ya Later: Recap with Alexis Bellino · Reality with The King

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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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  Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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  Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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  Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode we recap reality television from the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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  Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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  Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey, their rain drops on today's episode
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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King. I am super stoked to talk
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  Speaker 1: about this episode because I have to have so many
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  Speaker 1: thoughts and I am going to go on record saying this,
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  Speaker 1: and I would love to get Alecxi with the Leni's opinion.
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  Speaker 2: Who is here?
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  Speaker 3: Hey Alexa, Hey.
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  Speaker 2: Alexis you are a hit amongst the rain drops? Have you?
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  Speaker 2: I know?
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  Speaker 3: Do you like to puff up my ego? I know
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  Speaker 3: that I know.
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  Speaker 2: No, You're listed your person.
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  Speaker 1: I send stuff to him because I love the fact
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  Speaker 1: that you're You don't be comments.
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  Speaker 2: I don't because I don't think any reality starts to
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  Speaker 2: be comments. I just I just think it could be dangerous.
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  Speaker 1: You appearing on Reality with the King every Friday to
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  Speaker 1: break down OC Housewives has really made people say, Carlos,
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  Speaker 1: I must admit I wasn't sure about Alexis. I love
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  Speaker 1: her on this platform. I love her inside.
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  Speaker 2: So no, people, and I'm not just kissing your ass.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not blowing smokes from your mask.
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  Speaker 1: Like like, people are really enjoying our recaps and I
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  Speaker 1: just want to I can't say thank you enough for
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  Speaker 1: for doing this.
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  Speaker 3: Oh well, we're raw, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 3: I listened to it and I'm like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 3: did I really say that? Oh I did.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's all.
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  Speaker 1: Always loved you. So listen, I am going to say this.
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  Speaker 1: The real house Bonds of Orange County is on fire.
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  Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with this, Gabe, and Alexis was right.
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  Speaker 2: I was wrong.
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  Speaker 1: The Live Detective test was actually genius and what it
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  Speaker 1: brought us Alexis was a great commentary and I cannot
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  Speaker 1: wait to break it all.
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  Speaker 3: Downy Listen, I brought receipts, so you better sit back
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  Speaker 3: and put that seat belt on. Okay, you don't like this,
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  Speaker 3: I'm a receipt girl.
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  Speaker 2: Well let's let's let let's let's go there, Let's go there,
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  Speaker 2: let's go there.
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  Speaker 3: So no, just what I mean, We'll get there whatever
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  Speaker 3: you are.
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  Speaker 1: Listen if I if I don't get there, please please
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  Speaker 1: take me to the destination.
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  Speaker 2: But the receipts can be read. Okay. So the episode
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  Speaker 2: opens up with Katie telling Jin that she feels the
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  Speaker 2: live Detective Test people are paid actors.
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  Speaker 1: She's providing hit shots of these people screenshots, and she
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  Speaker 1: says she thinks she was set.
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  Speaker 2: Up by Gina and Emily.
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  Speaker 1: Love to get your thoughts, but I want to start
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  Speaker 1: by saying this, And I love the fact that he
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  Speaker 1: de bro even said, like, look, my husband is a doctor.
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  Speaker 1: He's also I mean in real life, he's also a
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  Speaker 1: doctor on television.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't make him a paid actor.
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  Speaker 1: The beauty of his podcast is listen, you guys are
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  Speaker 1: speaking to a producer. Not everybody wants to be a
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  Speaker 1: reality television So when you find somebody, whether it's a therapist,
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  Speaker 1: a log detective test examiner, a guy in acologist, a teacher,
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  Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, it's easier to reuse people
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  Speaker 1: who have the reality TV experience because not only are
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  Speaker 1: they easier to work with in the sense of they understand, Look,
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  Speaker 1: I get what I need to do. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: go up there, be myself, do my job, keep it moving.
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  Speaker 1: You guys don't understand the vetting process it takes in
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  Speaker 1: clearing these people, releasing these people. So look, I just
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  Speaker 1: want to go on record saying that just because you
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  Speaker 1: see a professional do multiple appearances on multiple reality shows
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  Speaker 1: does not make them a paid actor. But Alexis, what
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  Speaker 1: do you think about all of that stuff?
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  Speaker 3: So I kind of feel torn about that one, to
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  Speaker 3: be honest, because I do I do believe that there's
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  Speaker 3: a chance that on this one instance, there could have
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  Speaker 3: been a little manipulation in the whole thing. Okay, I
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  Speaker 3: don't know. I'm not a light detector test person, but
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  Speaker 3: guess what it did. It led Alexis Billina in to
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  Speaker 3: doing some research on her own, okay about light detector tests.
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  Speaker 3: So don't have daylight and me as going it's in
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  Speaker 3: my blood, buddy, It's in my blood. I went on
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  Speaker 3: reality and I was supposed to be a detective. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know what the problem is here, but anyway, I'm
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  Speaker 3: tool now to go back. Okay, So the truth behind
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  Speaker 3: a timeline of the light detector test, okay, is it
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  Speaker 3: lasts one point five to two point five hours for
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  Speaker 3: a person. Okay, So let me just do the math here.
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  Speaker 3: With seven housewives and only two poliographers, okay, around four
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  Speaker 3: to six hours for just one phase one of the
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  Speaker 3: legit polygraph tests. That means these women would have been
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  Speaker 3: there pretty much all night because there's three phases to
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  Speaker 3: a polygraph test. Also, there's phase one, two, and three.
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  Speaker 3: So under my calculations, I don't think these tests were
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  Speaker 3: legit by any measure, Okay, Nor was my one on
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  Speaker 3: boot camp because that whole flight detector test I took
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  Speaker 3: lasted a whole thirty minutes, so we didn't even get
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  Speaker 3: through phase one okay, my white detector test, So there
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  Speaker 3: you go. So just saying, especially with the fact that
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  Speaker 3: Katie failed the whole thing and Gretchen passed with flying colors,
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  Speaker 3: that right, there's enough to just squash them out for
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  Speaker 3: me anyway. But then when I did the research, I
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  Speaker 3: was like, dang, okay, I don't believe it. But that's
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  Speaker 3: why I'm glad they did it. It was still fun.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, alexis the limo I need you in
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  Speaker 2: my life every week.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, the look dagging got my girl got the receipts, okay,
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  Speaker 4: So to break it down to us again, you're saying
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  Speaker 4: that in order to have a polygraph test where the
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  Speaker 4: results are leading into the sort of like the percentile
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  Speaker 4: in which the person can you know, say, you know
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  Speaker 4: officially this person's lying or not, you.
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  Speaker 1: Need to you need to at least that person in
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  Speaker 1: order to test the blood pressure, you know, the all
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  Speaker 1: of those things that it requires in order to get
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  Speaker 1: the final results. You need to at least be strapped
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  Speaker 1: to the logitective test machine for at least one half
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  Speaker 1: to two hours.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because there's a pretest, there's then a okay, hold on, oh,
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  Speaker 3: the end test, which is step two, and then there's
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  Speaker 3: the post test, and all of this goes into uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know, reading the results of why when someone lies,
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  Speaker 3: they can actually tell they're lying, not just the lie
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  Speaker 3: going like this. They have to see asking normal questions
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  Speaker 3: in the pretest, right like what's your age, what's your sex,
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  Speaker 3: what your you know, YadA YadA, and then going into
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  Speaker 3: the d test and then the post test. So if
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  Speaker 3: like I said, seven housewives and two polygraphers, they would
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  Speaker 3: have had four to six hours for just phase one
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  Speaker 3: of a legit test. We're not talking phases two and three.
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  Speaker 3: So there you go, I'm done with my receipt for
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  Speaker 3: the rest for the rest of the pod, I'm done
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  Speaker 3: with my receipts Carlos.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, oh well we have to break this down. I
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  Speaker 2: love it. Okay, So I do want to say this
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  Speaker 2: so that everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Can follow when Katie a list that they're paid actors. Again,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just confirming that because someone appears on multiple reality
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  Speaker 1: shows does not make them paid actors. So I want
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  Speaker 1: to debunk that they're not paid actors, right, agree.
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  Speaker 2: So that's that.
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  Speaker 4: Now.
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  Speaker 1: What Alexis did that is the best, most amazing thing
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  Speaker 1: that happened to me this week is the fact that
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  Speaker 1: she is saying doing her research that is factual.
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  Speaker 2: Guys that yes.
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  Speaker 1: While these people are real, live detective test examiners, However,
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  Speaker 1: in order.
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  Speaker 2: To successfully get the results, one needs to be held
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  Speaker 2: up in the point of law.
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  Speaker 1: That person needs to at least be strapped to the
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  Speaker 1: machine from one half to two hours. These women honestly
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  Speaker 1: were not. So with that being said, Alexis, when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to Katie Janella and she says that she believes
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  Speaker 1: she was set up though by Emily and Gina, would
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  Speaker 1: you believe lead that to be true?
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  Speaker 3: Like I said, I believe that there might have been
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  Speaker 3: some manipulation done for those tests. I personally do because
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  Speaker 3: I don't think Katie failed every single question. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think Gretchen got every single question correct. So I'm not
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  Speaker 3: saying they're paid actors either. I agree with you, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: they probably got paid to do their job to go there,
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  Speaker 3: but they did not get paid by the production company
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  Speaker 3: to be a paid actor or talent like we get
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  Speaker 3: paid to be on the show. So I agree with
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  Speaker 3: you there. But I do feel that there could possibly
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  Speaker 3: have been some persuasion or manipulation done on these tests,
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  Speaker 3: especially since each girl was probably hooked up, you know,
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  Speaker 3: thirty minutes at the most, because they had to go
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  Speaker 3: through all those women, and that you know, it was
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  Speaker 3: still daylight when they all left. It wasn't dark out.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't like they'd been there for twelve hours, you know.
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  Speaker 3: So that's where my detective hat went on, and I said, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: they may not be paid actors, that there might have
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  Speaker 3: been a little bit of skew or persuasion or whatever
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  Speaker 3: word you want to use.
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  Speaker 2: No listen, And that's the reason why I listen. I
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  Speaker 2: will say this.
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  Speaker 1: I give the network and the producers their props for even.
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  Speaker 2: Allowing the women to debump this. Do you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Like the fact that they're able to say on camera like, look,
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe this. I think they're paid actors, don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't believe in log detective tests. I don't believe
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  Speaker 1: the results were accurate. I love the fact that they said, look,
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  Speaker 1: we did our job providing one, but we're also going
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  Speaker 1: to do our job to make sure that these women
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  Speaker 1: are being heard, which is why the Katie revelation of
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  Speaker 1: her not believing these people to be true was very
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  Speaker 1: interesting to me. However, the most interesting thing to me
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  Speaker 1: in this conversation between Jen and Katie was the fact
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  Speaker 1: that Katie is still alleging and listen, Katie is adamant
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  Speaker 1: that she's telling the truth. She's in front of Jen
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  Speaker 1: and she is telling Jen, look, you were there. Katie's
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  Speaker 1: a legend that Gretchen was again said she went to
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  Speaker 1: the hospital after Naked Wasted episode, after that scene right
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  Speaker 1: in the episode, she went to the hospital and she
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  Speaker 1: said she got a toxicology report and allegedly they found
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  Speaker 1: something in her blood. And Katie said, verbato, Alexis I
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  Speaker 1: will die on that, which there's not one person in
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  Speaker 1: the world that I'm going to die for in terms
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  Speaker 1: of lying on them.
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  Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you. Do I think Katie's
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  Speaker 2: a liar?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I also, though believed Gretchen lied about this too.
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  Speaker 1: Two things can be true.
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  Speaker 2: I strongly believe in my gut as a producer, as
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  Speaker 2: a person, I do.
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  Speaker 1: Believe Gretchen told Katie something along the lines of that story.
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  Speaker 2: What do you believe, well think.
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  Speaker 3: Of about this, Carlos. It's too detailed of a It's
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  Speaker 3: not just Gretchen, you know. Gretchen said she went to
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  Speaker 3: the hospital. It's like she said, she went to the hospital,
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  Speaker 3: she got her blood drawn and a toxicology report came
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  Speaker 3: back that she had something in her blood. That is
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  Speaker 3: very detailed. And Katie, yes, I think puts her foot
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  Speaker 3: in her mouth and regrets and things that she has
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  Speaker 3: miss stepped on, ors that she did lie about that
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  Speaker 3: she wishes she hadn't. But like we said last week,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think she's a complete compulsive liar to where
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  Speaker 3: if she says I went to write a today while
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  Speaker 3: they're closed now, I went to CVS today that they
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  Speaker 3: she did go to CVS. Okay, I don't think she's
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  Speaker 3: such a liar that she lies about every single thing
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  Speaker 3: in her life. Okay, That's why I firmly believe, especially
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  Speaker 3: when Matt brought his receipts from his phone of the
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  Speaker 3: obsessive phone calls from Slade that day, and and you know,
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  Speaker 3: nine one one and all these things, It's like, all
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  Speaker 3: of it just adds up to me that it's like
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  Speaker 3: Gretchen at this point just needs to own it and say,
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  Speaker 3: I you know, yep, I shouldn't have said it.
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  Speaker 1: This is reality with the King, and I'm Carlos King.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get back into the show. I agree with that
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  Speaker 1: as well. I think Gretchen needs to own it. I
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  Speaker 1: do want to ask you this though, speaking of Katie,
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  Speaker 1: whether or not she's a liar. Katie was recently on
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  Speaker 1: our friend Tamra Judge and Teddy Melli Camp's podcast to Tease,
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  Speaker 1: and on that podcast, Alexis, they did ask her whether
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  Speaker 1: or not she sent you the video that she recorded
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  Speaker 1: of Shannon having them meltdown at the photo shoot. Katie
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  Speaker 1: doubles down on it and saying that she did not
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  Speaker 1: play the recording.
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  Speaker 3: To you, that she only told you about it, And
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  Speaker 3: that's where I know Katie is a liar because she
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  Speaker 3: played it for me in the restaurant. I heard so
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  Speaker 3: and So's name or or voice. Okay, well, I've also
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  Speaker 3: spoken to this person, so I knew who it was.
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  Speaker 3: So how would I know that? How would I also
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  Speaker 3: know that my name was bleeped out after every other word,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like effing this? I mean I heard the recording,
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  Speaker 3: So that part makes me know that she's a liar.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what's frustrating to me because I do like
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  Speaker 3: Katie and I had stuck up for her in the past. However,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a known liar and I don't lie, and
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  Speaker 3: I I will die on that. Also, she did play
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  Speaker 3: me the voice memo. It was very long. It was.
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  Speaker 3: It was well, I mean long's I'm just saying. It
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  Speaker 3: wasn't like three seconds. It was like a lot of
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  Speaker 3: amped up anger and cursing that should never be done
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  Speaker 3: to an executive period. So yeah, it's it was. I
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  Speaker 3: always played it. But what am I supposed to do? Like,
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  Speaker 3: are we both supposed to go take a four and
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  Speaker 3: a half hour polygraph test so that we can find
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  Speaker 3: out who's really telling the truth on that one, because
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  Speaker 3: that's what it would take four and a half, you know,
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  Speaker 3: sit me down in the chair. I'll do it anyway.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so over it though, It's like, okay, let's just
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  Speaker 3: move on. You know. I wish that we could finally
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  Speaker 3: get to the bottom of you know, I whish there
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  Speaker 3: would have been why didn't she voice memo Gretchen at
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  Speaker 3: the restaurant that night saying it? So she's such a
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  Speaker 3: good voice memoir, you know, because that then we wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: be sitting here arguing about it, you and I Carlos
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  Speaker 3: would know because Katie would be like, I have the
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  Speaker 3: voice memo Gretchen saying it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, no, it's and that's listen. I tell
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  Speaker 1: the audience. Look, I'm widely intrigued by Katie. I think
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  Speaker 1: Katie is fascinating in the sense of she's an enigma.
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  Speaker 2: I believe her when she says, Gretchen told her a story. Again.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing that I'm unable to say to myself factually,
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  Speaker 1: I believe this is because Katie is a known liar.
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  Speaker 1: I one thousand percent believe you Alexis. You guys can
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  Speaker 1: watch the show whether or not you like Alexis. What
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  Speaker 1: you can't say is Alexis has never been called lying
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  Speaker 1: and she just never has been called lying. And the
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  Speaker 1: fact that Alexis can say out of her own breath,
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  Speaker 1: look this one.
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  Speaker 2: DELI on me named Katie, and this is what she
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  Speaker 2: lied on.
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  Speaker 1: However, I can also say in this rep I do
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  Speaker 1: believe she's telling the truth in that instance, that goes
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  Speaker 1: to show you a person who is unbiased, because anybody
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  Speaker 1: else would say, if you're lying on me, I will
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  Speaker 1: lie on you, and I will never.
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  Speaker 2: See the truth bing you. Now when it comes to Jin, Yes, no,
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to give you those prosts.
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  Speaker 1: This is the part that is so confusing to me,
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  Speaker 1: and I need for you to break it down for
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  Speaker 1: me because I don't know Jen personally. I follow her
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram, she follows me. We've had great, pleasant exchanges.
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  Speaker 1: I told our friend Time or Judge personally, look, bitch,
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  Speaker 1: I think Jen's great for the show, and Tom was like, look,
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  Speaker 1: I love anybody who you love from this show.
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  Speaker 2: Because I want the show to be successful.
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  Speaker 1: I think Jen and Ryan are fantastic, and I think
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  Speaker 1: Jen has a lot of momentum. I am I'm truly stuck,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe I'm the minority in the situation, Jen told
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  Speaker 1: Katie after Katie said, Jen, you were there, Gretchen told
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  Speaker 1: us about the toxicology report, and you're right, election it
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  Speaker 1: is detailed. However, Jen is saying that Gretchen said she
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  Speaker 1: felt like she should have gone to the hospital, and
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  Speaker 1: then I had Lizzie with the Lizzie notes. What's the
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  Speaker 1: scene in New Orleans? In New Orleans, Alexis, when they
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  Speaker 1: talked about that conversation between Katie, Jen and Gretchen, Jen
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  Speaker 1: did say, look, I was there.
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  Speaker 2: Gretchen said that, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, she didn't feel right whatever those things, she felt sick,
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  Speaker 1: she felt sick, she felt sick. Never once did Jen
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  Speaker 1: in that scene say that she should go to the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: But she's now singing in front of Katie.
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  Speaker 2: I'm confused.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think Katie is right when she says that
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  Speaker 1: Jen is protecting Gretchen?
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  Speaker 3: I truly do, I really do I think that Jin.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: I loved the line where Katie said, in her professional
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Jin and Gretchen's hate for Tamra over you know, supersedes
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: anything else. I forget how Katie said it exactly, but
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: something to that effect, not verbatim, but that the hate
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: for Tamara supersedes and that they will do anything to
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: protect protect their hate for Tamar and to try to
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: take Tamara down. I do believe that, and I do
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: think that that Gin probably is protecting Tamra. I do
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: because I think Jin was at that dinner when Katie
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: was told. Katie and Gin were both told by Gretchen
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: that you know, she went to the hospital. So yeah,
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: it kind of it sinks for Katie because you know,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: like like we said last week, I was felt really
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: bad for Katie when she was kicked out of the
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: party and or the light detecting party, and just the
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: treatment that she's getting right now from the girls. I
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: don't like it. It's too much of a gang up.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: It's too much of of all hate on one person.
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: So you know, and I've been in that hot scene
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: and it doesn't feel good. It's horrible. So I would
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: never wish that on anyone else. And I just I
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: just wish that Gretchen would own it. Yeah, And I
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: think I don't think she's not.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Oh, she she's not going up to She was on
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: my friend Heather McDonald's podcast and pretty much said she
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: never said it. I love Gretchen. I think Gretchen's I
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: think Gretchen says something to that. Again, I'm not gonna
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: say Gretchen said she was rufe got the toss of
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I don't. I can't confirm that just yet, but I
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: do agree with you, Alexis, it is too detailed. But
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: because Katie lies so much, and I do believe Katie
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: in this in this instance, I'm just having a hard
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: time believing exact Mcgretchen said, although I do believe Gretchen
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: said something. With that being said, the scene that made
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: me again rain drops. I'm gonna be honest, it seemed
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: that made me again be on Katie's side, cause again,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I am only gonna critique and judge things that I
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: see on the show. And that's why every episode I
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: give my full, unbiased report.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Matt, Janella and Katie had a.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: One on one scene at the house and in this scene,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Alexis Bolina, who's shaking her hair right now, because girl,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: this scene did it for me.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: This scene did it for me, and I'm gonna tell
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: you why.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: In this scene, Matt is recounting exactly what happened in
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: New Orleans when Tamra surprised Gretchen with the information that
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: she was told that you know, the whole thing might
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: be rupie. Matt provided screenshots based on his phone that
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: he has been talking to Slave and Ryan for forty
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: three minutes. He talked on March temp. He talked about
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: the fact that Slade was trying to manipulate the whole situation.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: He showed that Slade said, this is a nine to
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: one to one text message that Katie beats the whole
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the line, okay, because Gretchen is going to deny it,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: and Katie needs to stay with Gretchen.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: So do you believe I believe it.
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: I believe it, And it's so it's so gross, It's
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: just it gives me the ick feeling from head to toe,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: like like, of course Gretchen's gonna deny it. Of course,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: you know he's He's now it's almost like a threat
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: to Matt, like Katie needs to toe the line and
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: listen to go with gret side with Gretchen. It's it's
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: so schemish and like squeamish both. You know, it's just,
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: but I one hundred percent believe it. The one person
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: that's never been shown a liar is Matt. I have
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: met Matt several times. I do think he is a
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: stand up guy. I do believe that he showed the
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: phone and had the you know, like look at the
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: forty look at all the forty three minutes, and then
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: look at how many times Slay called me like it
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: So it was an it was an emergency, like they
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: had to talk right now. I mean, all of that
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: just points to the evidence. You know, again a detective
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: cat putting on. There's too many things on this one
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: lie that is supposedly a lie from Katie quote unquote
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: that are not lining up for it to be a lie.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Everything is is lining up to show that it really
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: was said in the restaurant at Mastros by Gretchen.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I agree, because again, when you and I recapped the
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: New Orleans episode, I said to you and I'm gonna
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: continue saying this, which is why I don't judge anything
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: until I'll watched the episode. In that episode, I said,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: that scene where Katie rushes through the door, Oh my gosh,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: what happened and there's Gretchen and Jan sitting there. Oh
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: I had aha moments, Oh my gosh, a lexis what
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: so remember in New Orleans in the hotel, Remember Katie
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: walking to the room all like perturbed.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, what happened?
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: I forgot that Katie and Jen were sitting there before
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Katie walked in. Jen, I love you. I believe that
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: before before that scene happened. I do believe Gretchen and
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Jen had a conversation and said, this is the story
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: going to tell. And now now at all tracks, Now
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: at all tracks, it all makes sense.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: It all makes sense. It all makes sense. Matt saying
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: that Matt Jameella is smart. Think about it.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Ryan's name has been extracted from this conversation. When the
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: when the when Katie talks about at dinner, you don't
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: really hear Ryan name.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Ryan's name come up a lot.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Matt was smart to say that me, Ryan and Slave
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: have conversations about this. And the fact that before Katie
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: walked in, you saw Jen and Gretchen waiting on her.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: It's very plausible.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: And now again Katie is I believe Katie's vindicated when
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: it comes to the story everything else. I do believe
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Katie told Kiki Monique, who was on my podcast this week,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I believe that although although Katie saying she would die
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: on the hill, that she never told Kiki that that
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: that's why I'm like, Uh, Katie has life on Alexis.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I believe that, I will say, when it comes to
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: this story, I believe Katie's vindicated, and I think I
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: think Matt did a wonderful job standing up for his wife,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: but standing up for the truth by revealing Ryan's name
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: in it, because that now implicates Jim.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: I agree with you. I agree with you, And I
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: also think that I think that you can be a
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: ten percent liar or a twenty percent liar and an
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: eighty percent truth teller. So maybe Katie's gotten caught up
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: and a lot of lies, so that puts her in
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: the twenty percent bracket. I don't know, we'd have to,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: But then I do believe you can also still tell
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: the truth. And it's it's time to move on from
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: the Katie of it all, though, like right, like, can't
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: we just you know, I even like what Emily said,
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: can we just pop into twenty twenty five, Like let's
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: stop doing back, you know, twelve years ago thing with
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Gretchen and camera. Can we also do that with Katie
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: and just move forward, you know, in the story.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: So and it's what's needed, is what's needed because I
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: do Listen, two thieves can't be true. Katie did a
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: horrible job at presenting herself to be a person that
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: tells the truth. Right, She did a horrible job setting
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: herself up as that. Sorry, Katie, you did okay. However, however,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Katie in this instance happens to be telling the truth.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: But it's so like the boy who cried Wolf?
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: And I and I think that's who Katie has become.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: And what's unfortunate is before the aha moment, I was
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: gonna say this about Jen, how there's a part of
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: me that has this empathy for Jen because and I
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: want to ask you this, actually, Alexis, I don't know
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: what it's like to be a housepight. I know what
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: it's like to produce them, but it's very different when
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: you're on the show. You mentioned last week that broke
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the Internet that yes, Carlos, we there are aligances like you.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: You formed these friendships and you sort of side with
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: this person because you you you want you want, you
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: want somebody on your side, You want somebody on your team.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: When when Jen said she could not run after Katie
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: when Emily kicked her out. The only reason why I
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: do have a soft spot for Gin is because I
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: don't know what it's like to be around these women.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: You are confused, is Katie telling the truth? They did
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: say Katie failed miserably the live detective test, But you
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: also want to be friends with these women, and you
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: do not want to be on an island. And that's
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: why I felt bad for Jin, because it's hard to
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: be a housewife on these shows and be ostracized.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Do you go ahead? No, tell me? Tell me now?
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: So what were you gonna ask you?
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: What I was gonna ask you?
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Do you do you understand why Jen perhaps felt stuck
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: to not go after her friend, but also like, I
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: also don't.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: Want to lose my friendship with the rest of these women.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: I've put myself in that pose, it like in Jen's
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: spot on that exact day, and I'm like, if I
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: would have been there, what I have gone after Katie?
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: And even knowing just out of pure human decency, knowing
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: that I've been the one ostracized, knowing that I've been
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: the one you know twice now cause on season I
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: think it was season seven, they all ganged up on me.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: And then last season you know, nobody believed me, and
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: I got you know, got breathed whatever, but so twice now,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: and I just feel like human decency would be she
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: just got kicked out, she just failed a lie detector
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: test like so many you know things. I would probably
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: still have gone after her, just to say, just gone
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: out and said, hey, you know this is tough. I
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: know it, I get it, I get it all. We've
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: got to get to the bottom of it, though, because
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: there's been too many lives and then you know, we're there.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I'm confused. Jen could have said that,
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: but I just don't think you could. I just felt
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: really bad that that Katie was alone and you know,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: seeing her crying to producers and not one of the
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: housewives went after her, you know, I or just to
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: check in. They don't. You don't have to be all
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: her best friend now and say oh, I forget everything
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: you've you've done in the past. But you can at
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: least console her and say, I know that was that
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: had to be tough, you know. Yeah, And how is
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Emily like sleep at night knowing that she was not
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: mean kicked her out? Like I like, that's just so
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: I just I don't like it when the show goes
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: like high school, when it goes to where it's such
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: a like a not a normal situation, because you're not
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: really going to kick somebody out of your house like
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: that if you're having a luncheon and a light detective
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: test and you're all sitting around laughing, even if you
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: fail the whole thing. I don't see a world where,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: you know, forty to sixty year old women are going
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: to be kicking people out of a party. It just
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: drives me crazy.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: No, it's said, and you and I both said the
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: same thing last week, How like, who the fuck do
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: you think you.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Are Emily to do that to somebody?
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: And listen, it's backfiring on them, It's not. It has
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: to been a good couple of weeks for them. Jin
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: last week, Alexas not sure if you saw it. She
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: went on Instagram and told people to pretty much, you know,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: leave her alone.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: If you don't like her anymore, just un.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: Follow her and tag Katie. It is evident that she's
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: unable to handle it. A lot of people have said
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: that Jen went from fan favorite to most hate it.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: It's a fall from grace. You know what it's like
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: for people to be mean on social media. What advice
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: do you give someone like Jen who is experiencing a
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: lot of hatred from people.
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: Aline, Well, you know, I saw her video and I
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: don't I'm not on Instagram a ton. I mean, I'm
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: the worst instagrammer about like commenting on people's posts and
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: going through and scrolling because I get on and I
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: get addicted and I'll for like six hours. Okay, I
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: don't have that off switch, so I just don't go on.
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: I'll post one or two things about me or what's
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: happened in my life, and then I'm off right. But
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: that for some reason, when I opened my screen, that
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: did pop up, and it does work randomly, and i'll i'll,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: you know, comment on cameras or comment on Katie's or
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: gins or whatever. But it's very rare. But anyway, I
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: did DM her on that on not DM oh. Yeah,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: I commented on her on herdo I hearted it, and
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: I just said something like I'd have to get on
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: my phone right now to look at me if I
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: can remember, something like I feel for you, stay strong
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: and just know this too shall pass or something like that,
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: and then she just, you know, sit back and was like,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: how did you handle this? And I was like, I
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: cried every night, and I hibernated and cried every night,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: you know, because that's the reality and when you're getting
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: when you go from people loving you like they did
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: when I first came back last season, to not getting
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: a full story shown so that then they don't really
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: see everything that's transpiring, and then becoming the most hated
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: is very, very difficult. And so I did cry a lot,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: I did hibernate, I did lose five pounds, you know.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: So it does affect people. And I do feel sorry
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: for Jin, regardless of what she did, because they're just
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: people are so mean. It's just like kicking Katie out
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: of a party when you're forty and sixty years old.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I don't like what people sit behind their iPads or
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: their or their phone and our bullies on you know,
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: on trolling. So Jin just has to stay strong and
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: it will pass. And I mean, you know, I hope
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: the Herd Katie do reconcile. I don't know if they have,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: but I hope that they do by the end of
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: the season.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: But we'll see, Yeah, we'll see.
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: But now thank you for sharing that because that does
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: help and listen, guys, it's great to have an opinion.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Alexis and I have one, but look.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Don't run the gamut of like being super mean.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: And yes, I know you're saying, but Carlos, they mean
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: to Katie, I get it, but it doesn't mean you
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: have to match the energy. So I do want to
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: move on to Tamar and Gretchen's one on one that
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: they had on the beach. Tamarra and Gretchen said down
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: away from the girls and they talked about their you know,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: decade plus long beat.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Tamra said that, you know.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: We need to address exactly what our issues are, and
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: they just pretty much brought up everything that happened to
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: mean them all these years, from Tamra saying that she
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: saw Gretchen sit on a man's lap and kiss him
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: while Gretchen was engaged to Jeff to saying that Slade
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: is a did be dead, Gretchen saying that Eddie is
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: gay and bringing some guy to bringing some guy and
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: say that he saw he saw some things to Slade,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: you know, calling Tamar fat. It was it was sort
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: of like, these are the things that we're talking about.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: One thing that I was like, I thought this was
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: too much.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Is when Gretchen said that Slade is unable to get
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: work because of things that Tamar said, I just called
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: bullshit on that.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Carlos.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I threw up a little in my mouth when I
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: saw that, because it's like, I'm like, Okay, hold on, Gretchen,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: hold on. First of all, great job of playing victim role.
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Very good job there again, victim, victim, victim. Your middle
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: name is victim. So anyway, people get felonies, Carlos, Okay,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: people go to jail and get out of jail and
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: get jobs. I plug one of my neighbors down the
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: street probably did that. Okay, bad telling me that's words,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: Camera's words of calling him a deadbeat dad and label
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: it like like you know, name calling him a thing
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: is so powerful, so crazily uh strong. That horse Laye
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: just can't get work anymore because when people scroll through
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: his resume, it says dead beat dad under there, I mean,
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: the biggest crop of bull s I've ever heard. I'm
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: not cussing, but my blood pressure. I was like sitting
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: there watching him, like, are you freaking kidding me? Right now?
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: Like the book can pick up their feet, you know,
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: get on their feet again after a lot of bad
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: things and deadbeat dad is not something that's gonna stop
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Slades ladies to get off writing, cretch his coattails, and
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: go get a job.
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: Period of dad relaxing hit him with the period.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: What was well?
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Interesting is uh with Katie.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: Katie's professional alexis she said that slave's job is.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: To be Gretchen's bitch. But Donald was like, Katie, you
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: ate that one like that?
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Wait say that again? Wait wait wait I didn't fall
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: say that again.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, So Katie said to her confessionals that Slade's job
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: is to be Gretchen's bitch.
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: But that's why I said he needs to quit writing
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: her hotels and go get a job. Like I mean,
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: I think there was even one time in the seasons
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: I was filming with Gretchen that she called him her
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: slept schlepper, she slept stuff. I've never heard that word before,
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: That's why it rings a bell to me. But so
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: so stop she happin and start bartending. Okay, I mean
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: that's what we do, Carlos is we held we call
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  Speaker 3: a spade a spade. Okay, well, I'm just saying we
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: called a slade a Slade, we called plate of Spade. Okay,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: I'm pulling it out people. I just storted. Sometimes, Okay, Carlos,
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  Speaker 3: how are we having too much fun at eight o'clock
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  Speaker 3: in the morning. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, listen, I'm so bad. Join you off them, happen
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: to your fight because I love it. I love it.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I love it, I love it. I love it.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: So one thing I want to talk about to speaking
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: of Slade, his look, Vicky did say on a podcast
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: that when.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: They were filming Awesome with Girls Trip, it was a
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: season that's not I don't think ever gonna air.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: It's for the Brandy Glamville Turnline, Manto, Bicky, Gretchen, Alex McCord, and.
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: Camillo Grammar.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Bicky Godson said alexais that while they were filming it,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: that's Lay would call Gretchen incessantly asking what she's wearing
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  Speaker 1: and auto these things, and she's.
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  Speaker 2: Like, that's just Slade, is how you know? Slay allegedly
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  Speaker 2: told Mac that he started Housewives.
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  Speaker 1: It was and you know, listen, I'm a human being
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  Speaker 1: and in that moment, I was like, look, all of
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: these things people are saying are also provided by factual
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: stuff from the clip with Andy Cohen at the reunion
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  Speaker 1: where Slade said I left the show and Andy's like, no,
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  Speaker 1: Joe was no longer.
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  Speaker 2: Here, which means we did not need you anymore. It
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: made me feel bad.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm like, dud you a bit feel bad for Gretchen,
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, if all of this is true, i
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: just feel like, damn, Gretchen, if all of this is true,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: it does feel like you are being led down the
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: wrong broke sister, and this isn't looking.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just it's a little I mean, if it
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: is true, it's a little possessive, a little obsessive, you know,
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: a little obsession, a little possessive. But I do think
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: that if Slade went and did something on his own
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: and got a little piece of his own identity and
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: life at least, we have so much going on in
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: a day that it's like he's doing his own thing.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: I'm doing my own thing. I mean, yeah, we do
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: travel a lot together when we have things, you know,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: things we have to do for work and s touch.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: But I just think I think he probably would really
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: benefit if he just got something of his own.
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  Speaker 1: I Listen could not agree more with that. Okay, alexis
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: last question for you. I know you got a run,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: but I need to ask you this. I definitely thought
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: the girls coming together at the end was fun. They're
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: on the beach, they're having fun. One of the topics
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: is this, And I'm like, I can't wait to ask
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Alexis this question. So the girls are talking about their
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: worst breakup stories, Alexis Beleno, what is your worst breakup story?
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Oh gosh, Well, the first thing that comes in mind
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: that I just can't stop laughing about is here we're
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: going and her boy raises the garage door. She's got
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: the knife there.
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  Speaker 2: Loved it. I loved it. I love it. I love it.
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  Speaker 3: I can't think okay, so I can't think of Oh, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I know, okay. I was dating the point guard on
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: the Missoo basketball team. Okay, we were kind of boyfriend
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: and girlfriend. We just hadn't said it. I go to
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: his house one night after I got done bartending at
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: back Steakhouse. Okay, I'm so glad I thought of this story.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: So and I'd heard he was a player, Okay, i'd heard,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: you know, and he's like, he's the fricket. I dated
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: the quarterback on at Miszoo football and I dated the
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: point guard on the basketball team. So yeah, I don't
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: know why I like to date the guys that seemed
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: to play the girls. But anyway, so I decide I'm
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: going to go buy his house because it's like ten
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: o'clock at night and he am not reaching him. This
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: is that. I get in in the driveway and he's
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: got all the sexy lights on, you know what I mean,
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: like the the globe, all the sexy lights, and I'm like,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: that's weird because he's supposed to be here alone or
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: with somebody's it's weird. I walk in and he's making
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: out standing up making out with a girl under the
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: little globe thing because he had, you know, his house
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: had all the good lights and everything.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: And I.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Peeled out of that driveway. I'm talking, I just went.
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: I just just got the heck out of there.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Was so disgusted, and you know.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: He tried to mend the fence a little and it
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: just never worked. After that, I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: all I need. No, that was I left the skid
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: mark in his gravel because we're in Missouri I'm talking about,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: So he had some gravel in the driveway. I left
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: some skid marks in there because I was that mad.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: And guess what, you left your mark? You literally left
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: your mark.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: Okay. I had a knife that I could have walked
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: in there with like camera. Dude, I didn't have a nice.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Girl, Okay, So mine is completely different. My Carlos King's
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: worst breakup story.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: I was in college. It's my first boyfriend. I'm like
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: nineteen years old, and we were dating like two miles
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: and you know, I'm like coming off the closet. He
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: wanted us to have a public relationship. I'm still staying
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: out home with my parents and I'm like, I'm not
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: coming out the closet. I mean, Detroit, Michigan is too
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I can't do it. My father would like kill me.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: So for two months we had like a secret relationship
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: and he did not like it.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: He didn't liked it one bid. He would complain about
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: it whatever.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: So he wanted you to be bold, I'm asking. He
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: wanted you to be bold and like step out with
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: him and come out with yes. And you were quiet
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: about it because you weren't quite ready there and your journey,
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: you weren't there yet exactly. Okay, so keep.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: Going exactly two days before Valentine's Day, I get an email.
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: The motherfucker broke up with me via email two days
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: before Valentine's Day. I'm your cheap asshole, like you had
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: to do it before, or.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: Well sometimes days, but it's like three years for you.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Then it's like you got to you got to grow
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: up fully to get over that one. Oh my gosh,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: I know I'm like.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: Your self, a like you're suspening cloud. You couldn't call
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: me and break up with me. You couldn't. He should
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: meet email, Alexis.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: You know what?
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Ryan Seacrest is my the pluthora of knowledge. Every morning
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: I listened to him when I'm getting ready, and so
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Ryan Seacrest, I believe had says this at some point
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: he said, because you know, he always gives the facts.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: He's very factual, this guy. Anyway, he had done some
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: One of his topics were the best times of the
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: largest times of breakups are before Christmas and before Valentine's Day.
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: You know why, because people don't want to spend the
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: money on each other if they're gonna they're feeling not
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: a certain way, and they don't want to spend that
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: holiday with them. If they're feeling not a certain way.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: So you just made the statistics. Carlos. It's one of
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: the best holidays to be broken up right before, and
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: you made the stats. Okay.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: So just like they said us weekly rain Dry, I'm
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: just like us. So Alexis, thank you so much. This
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: has been a fun episode. I so look forward to
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: air Bride and me capping this with you.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: You have fun this weekend. I wish I could celebrate
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: with you. But have fun day. Tell Johnna say hi
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: and I love you and I'll see you next week.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: I'm headed into Gleam. Now you won't see me like
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: this often. Okay, they got no they got no powder,
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: just a little lip gloss and some mascara. So this
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: is the Raindrope's got the real deal this time.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: You still look good though, baby, know that?
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah? All right, see you next week.
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  Speaker 1: Reality with the King is executive produced by me Carlos King,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: produced by Lizzie Nimitz, and a partnership with the Lack
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  Speaker 1: Effect Network. You can also find us on my YouTube
• 43:49
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