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Women Tell All with Kirpa, Jane, Heather, Bri, Tracy & Nick Viall · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Live from Planet Blue in Malibu, California. This is the
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  Speaker 1: Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast with i R Radio.
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  Speaker 1: The season is ending in dramatic fashion. Tonight's episode of
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  Speaker 1: Almost Famous Podcast will maybe be the same way. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: back with a special episode after Women Tell All, we
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  Speaker 1: have an episode that we're bringing on some of this
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  Speaker 1: season's favorite contestants, and our first guest is definitely one
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  Speaker 1: of this season's favorite contestants. We have Kerpa in studio
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  Speaker 1: or in the shop right now. You guys, we may
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  Speaker 1: have a better Tell All than the actual Women tell
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  Speaker 1: based on this gossip that Kerpa is about to give. Y'all,
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  Speaker 1: Holy moly, go for it, so you'll Yeah, you saw
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  Speaker 1: it on The Women Till All. I mentioned that Kaylin
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  Speaker 1: slid into a cast member's d M before she was
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  Speaker 1: on the show, So that was Dean sid Dean Damns.
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  Speaker 1: Do you here's a question. Do we have a problem
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  Speaker 1: with that? I don't have a problem honestly. I think
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  Speaker 1: what turned me off was how far along we were
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  Speaker 1: in the process, and that's when she was bringing it up.
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  Speaker 1: She brought it up there. Yeah, that's how we all knew. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: slow down, Okay, So remember this is just people listening. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: they only have one way to pick up on this stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So you're telling me in the house or in the
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  Speaker 1: mansion or wherever, beautiful location. Yes, in the car along
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  Speaker 1: in the process. Was all this said on a mode
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  Speaker 1: of transportation? No, this was we were in a hotel
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  Speaker 1: on camera, off eating. Always she knows when to talk.
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  Speaker 1: It's always when there's no mic on her, and she
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  Speaker 1: says team at one point, I slid into somebody's how
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  Speaker 1: did how did this conversation get to say? I don't
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  Speaker 1: even know how it started, but we were I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: She just brought up that she had tried damning him,
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  Speaker 1: and I think they were supposed to meet and he
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  Speaker 1: never like he know, he doesn't fall him. Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 1: planning something with him on Friday, and it's like a
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  Speaker 1: big to do. It's actually Jadeen Tayner's gender reveal, and
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  Speaker 1: like every day I'm like, are you gonna back out?
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  Speaker 1: Are you gonna back out? Um? I I think this
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  Speaker 1: is wild news only for one reason. I wonder how
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  Speaker 1: often this happens? Right? I mean, Kurpa, you're beautiful. The
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  Speaker 1: show loves you, like you're coming off of this on
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  Speaker 1: a higher You're gonna get so many d m you're
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  Speaker 1: never gonna know. No, you know, you're never gonna be
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  Speaker 1: able to keep up with it. And so the fact
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  Speaker 1: that one Dean saw the d M is impressive. Second
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  Speaker 1: that she sent the d M, you know what, she
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  Speaker 1: was interested. Dean's a good looking guy. Women like him, like,
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  Speaker 1: not that bigdeo. But the fact that she brings it
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  Speaker 1: up half we do season, she's still thinking about it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's why, Like it was such a big deal
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  Speaker 1: and Katie brought it up. I brought it up like
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  Speaker 1: to Colton, And that's that's what turned me off. It's
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  Speaker 1: not the fact that she slid into the d m
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  Speaker 1: s and like, I'm sure other people have done that too,
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  Speaker 1: but it's like talking about it that far along when
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  Speaker 1: we're supposed to be like in this for Colton dating Colton,
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  Speaker 1: It's like, are we bringing that up? Yeah? Uh? Did
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  Speaker 1: she slide into his d M s during casting or
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  Speaker 1: before she was even in the casting process. I think
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  Speaker 1: that makes a difference. So she's just a fan girl.
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  Speaker 1: I can't say that I wouldn't slide into that. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, but I think it was probably just a
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  Speaker 1: few months before. I worry about this now though, I
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  Speaker 1: guess I don't now. But when I was single and uh,
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  Speaker 1: we were in Vegas when I was single, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I really want to meet a girl? How
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  Speaker 1: do I do it? And I was like, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: against the girl from the franchise, but also like how
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know how to approach anybody. And it was
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  Speaker 1: actually Nick, who's here tonight as well, and he goes
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  Speaker 1: just slide in the d MS like cinema message, shoot
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  Speaker 1: your shot. This is where shooting your shot backfires fast.
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  Speaker 1: You can't just throw this. You can't throw the messages around.
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  Speaker 1: Because what if I were to reach out to somebody
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  Speaker 1: when I was single, Yeah, I send you a d M? Right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm seeing like Kurpa like what do you have to
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  Speaker 1: Let's hang out? And you say, yeah, we hang out
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  Speaker 1: a couple of times. And then what happens if paradise
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  Speaker 1: comes along? You go on Paradise and I'm freaked down.
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  Speaker 1: I go, oh, but Kirp and I talked a couple
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  Speaker 1: of times. It's gonna bring off this idea that you're
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  Speaker 1: just chasing after Bachelor Nation. Yeah, that's true. It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: work out well, right, we gotta be careful out there,
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  Speaker 1: be careful. The d M s this is a and
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  Speaker 1: it's like putting me into a deep side little thought
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  Speaker 1: here what is wrong and what is not wrong when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to the pusler. Well, let's get back to
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  Speaker 1: the women's tell all, because I thought this was one
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  Speaker 1: of the most unorganized but also one of the most
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  Speaker 1: entertaining tell alls that I've ever watched my own. I
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  Speaker 1: so just to kind of catch up a little bit. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: last week, we watched Cold and Jump a Fence. UM,
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  Speaker 1: one of the wildest things in Bachelor history. Kurpa, I
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  Speaker 1: want to get your opinion on that in a second.
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  Speaker 1: But the women tell all then happens, and right away
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  Speaker 1: the women are after each other. And I was on
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  Speaker 1: a show yesterday, UM with a few people, and this
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  Speaker 1: is a statement that's made and I want to hear
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  Speaker 1: if you both agree. Let's not take anything away from
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  Speaker 1: Colton in this statement, but they're saying that the women
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  Speaker 1: this season definitely made the season. And I wonder if
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  Speaker 1: after this tell all, if that was proven true or
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  Speaker 1: not based on how it happened. You guys ran wild,
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  Speaker 1: it was, but it was crazy. Yeah, it was really
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  Speaker 1: crazy in the press room to listen to you, like
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  Speaker 1: to everybody. I was like, I can't hear a thing.
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  Speaker 1: And Chris stopped it a couple of times, saying like,
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  Speaker 1: you girls, you're not gonna be heard if you just
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  Speaker 1: keep talking over each other. And it got to the
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  Speaker 1: point where even after he said that, it's kept going. Yeah, exactly,
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  Speaker 1: So there was some there're some arguments that really never
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  Speaker 1: wrapped up. Watching it back, you're like, Okay, well, I
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  Speaker 1: guess we're just gonna drop it because they're never going
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  Speaker 1: to come to a conclusion. Um. I think the big
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  Speaker 1: one ends for the night was on Jeka versus Nicole,
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  Speaker 1: And what was weird about on k versus Nicole was
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  Speaker 1: that Nicole got a hot seat and Nicole was only
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  Speaker 1: really a part of one episode. I agree it is.
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  Speaker 1: It is odd how the hot seats happened this year. Kurba,
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  Speaker 1: what is your take? Why are the women so fiery
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  Speaker 1: with each other right now? Like what's being held in?
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  Speaker 1: I really don't. I wasn't expecting it to get that heated.
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  Speaker 1: Was it like that when you had But Okay, my
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  Speaker 1: theory is back when I had a women Tell All,
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  Speaker 1: it was going into the second season of Paradise. Paradise
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  Speaker 1: was something that like you wanted to be asked to do,
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  Speaker 1: but it wasn't like a game changer, like not change
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  Speaker 1: your life because the first season was hit enough for
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  Speaker 1: them to do it again, but like nobody became a
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  Speaker 1: star from it. Um So I think that now so
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  Speaker 1: many girls look at Women tell All as their audition
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  Speaker 1: for Paradise. They want to get a word in. So
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  Speaker 1: many random girls like who left Night one like that
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  Speaker 1: one girl served with a j She was James here,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna ask her. He was defending. I was tearing down.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, um, sorry, we'll ask Jane that same question.
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  Speaker 1: What was the passion behind it? Kerpa, what are your
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  Speaker 1: thoughts now after you've gone from the episodes watching this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing play out, What's going through your mind? And
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  Speaker 1: are you who are you feeling the most emotion for
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  Speaker 1: during the last few episodes? Um? Well, after watching Colton
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  Speaker 1: jumped the fence, I'm feeling for him because he's clearly
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  Speaker 1: going through a lot and I tried to warn him
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  Speaker 1: and Jerry went back and watched your episode today because
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  Speaker 1: he was like I'm going to prove like I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to go back and watch the fact that like Kerpa
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  Speaker 1: and Tasha and warned him against what happening to him
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  Speaker 1: in this moment. Yeah, we tried based on what though.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, That's the thing is during the episodes, we
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  Speaker 1: never got that you just warned him. Which is the
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  Speaker 1: right thing to do or the wrong thing? We don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But why did you feel like it was so clear
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  Speaker 1: that whoever was still there weren't there for the right reasons.
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  Speaker 1: It was just after Katie had told us that she
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  Speaker 1: had heard those things in Singapore about casting Kylin talking
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  Speaker 1: about Bachelorette and like the d M thing and endorsement
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  Speaker 1: deals after and later all that kind of stuff. So
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  Speaker 1: when he when Colton came to me ar Taesia and
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  Speaker 1: asked like, Hey, what do you guys think about this?
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  Speaker 1: I had no problem like saying, you know, what, if
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  Speaker 1: I were you, Like, I know, I you know your
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  Speaker 1: relationships better than I do, But if I were in
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  Speaker 1: your shoes, maybe just inspect these relationships a little bit harder,
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  Speaker 1: like ask the deeper questions of casting and Kaylin just
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  Speaker 1: in case. So at that point you seem kind of like,
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  Speaker 1: can I be honest? I seem like you're like lukewarm
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  Speaker 1: about your relationship with Colton. I moved really slowly, and
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  Speaker 1: I it's hard for me to jump all in, So
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  Speaker 1: I was really trying to like feel him out because
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  Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of this it's an engagement
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  Speaker 1: and I've been engaged and I don't want to have
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  Speaker 1: to like to do that again and have it end horribly.
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  Speaker 1: So I was really trying to feel him out. So
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  Speaker 1: I knew it came off like I didn't care, but
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  Speaker 1: I was just trying to like get more out of
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  Speaker 1: him and see if there was that connection. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: felt you in that moment. I was like, this girl
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  Speaker 1: is speaking the truth and he's just deciding not to
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  Speaker 1: see it. This is one of my favorite episodes of
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  Speaker 1: the Almost Famous podcast because it is our own little tell.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have like an episode to break down. It's
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  Speaker 1: just it's just so fun cause we get you in
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  Speaker 1: here and we go, Kurt, but what really happened? And
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  Speaker 1: you're telling us. So there's two questions we're gonna ask
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  Speaker 1: every single person from your season that sits down here.
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  Speaker 1: One is do you wish it would have worked with
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  Speaker 1: you in Colton? I don't think we were right for
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  Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, I think he's a great guy. He
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  Speaker 1: has like things that I'm looking for in a partner,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't think we were the right match. Question two,
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  Speaker 1: Can I get outside of yourself? Can I guess what
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna say? You're gonna say, who do you want
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  Speaker 1: to see him with? If anyone? No, but we'll add that, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: outside of yourself? Who do you want to see him
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  Speaker 1: with with? If anyone? I love Tasha. I think she
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  Speaker 1: would be a good fit for Colton. Tasia for Colton
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  Speaker 1: is what Kurba says in my final question, outside of yourself?
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  Speaker 1: Who should be the next batchlor At? I love Hannah
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  Speaker 1: Ge Hannah Gee for next Bachelor? Can we talk about
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  Speaker 1: Hannah be first? I like, I have like a massive
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  Speaker 1: girl crush on her in the way that I get
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  Speaker 1: giddy watching her, Like I get smiley watching her. See
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  Speaker 1: this is where maybe you guys can help me with this.
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  Speaker 1: People get that way with her. I didn't feel that
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  Speaker 1: with her, but people get really excited about Hannah Be
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  Speaker 1: my god, I love her so much, like you guys,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not sure whether I want to be her or
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  Speaker 1: be friends with her. She's amazing, She's just no bullsh
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  Speaker 1: like she'll say whatever she wants and quirky. I love her.
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  Speaker 1: She just like finds me of a better version of me.
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  Speaker 1: Like she's just like me, You're the best version of
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  Speaker 1: you you can ever. I don't know. I just like
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  Speaker 1: I love watching her because I relate to her. But
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel awkward watching her like I feel awkward
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  Speaker 1: watching myself. What was the reason for that? I hate
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  Speaker 1: Listen to my voicemail, Kerpa, Um, you are definitely one
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  Speaker 1: of our favorites. I hope to see you in paradise.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see, We'll see. Come do it. Yeah, you gotta
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  Speaker 1: do it. Look what happens for these two? They're writing
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  Speaker 1: books together now. And speaking of that, Uh, Lucy and
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  Speaker 1: Clark by Ashley I Can, Eddie and Jared Havn is
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  Speaker 1: It's a good book. I've read it, Kerpa. Thanks for
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  Speaker 1: before the season even started, So there's tweets that came
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  Speaker 1: out and we have to talk about because we haven't
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  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna leave it up to you to explain
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  Speaker 1: all that because before the season even happens. This is
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  Speaker 1: one of the unfortunate things about the show is you're filming,
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  Speaker 1: you can't protect yourself, you can't explain yourself, and so
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  Speaker 1: these things just keep spurling around in the media and
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  Speaker 1: we don't get to hear from you. So what was
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  Speaker 1: going on and where? And I think I want to
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  Speaker 1: ask you, did your mind change from those tweets that
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  Speaker 1: time you went on the show. Um, I came out
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  Speaker 1: already and publicly apologized for it. It was an extremely
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  Speaker 1: long time ago. It was embarrassing. I said some things
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  Speaker 1: that I definitely shouldn't have said. I wasn't thinking when
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  Speaker 1: I said them. It's unfortunate that I ever would have
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  Speaker 1: written that stuff and it came out and people saw it.
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  Speaker 1: But all I can do is kind of own it
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  Speaker 1: and apologize. I think it's the best thing to do
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  Speaker 1: because the funny part not the funny parts. I know
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  Speaker 1: it was very personal to you, but a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people from the show have had things they've said in
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  Speaker 1: the passaitive came out while they're on the show, or
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  Speaker 1: you know, when they're younger and they've they've had different,
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  Speaker 1: you know, viewpoints. But the fact is five years ago,
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  Speaker 1: six years ago, I wasn't a believer in the show.
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  Speaker 1: I would have if I was a fan of The Bachelor,
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  Speaker 1: I would have gone, this is funny. I like watching it,
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  Speaker 1: but I'll never go on it. And then I go
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  Speaker 1: on it and I go, oh no, this this is
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  Speaker 1: this actually is something that could work, and this is
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  Speaker 1: actually affects real lives and so your worldview or your
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  Speaker 1: opinions change, which I think is completely fair. Yes, I
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  Speaker 1: mean everyone I'm sure has said things that they didn't mean,
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  Speaker 1: and unfortunately I had to have it publicly come out
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  Speaker 1: and have people see that about me, and that's not
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  Speaker 1: who I am. So again, all I could do was
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  Speaker 1: apologize and hope that people see me for the new,
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  Speaker 1: better person that I am today. Um, I hope so
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  Speaker 1: every day we can do that. When the Jonas Brothers
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: reunited this week, my my friend was reading me tweets
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: from two thousand and eight, and um, this is going
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: to prove your point. Yeah, this is actually going to
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: be amazing. Actley has been a fan of the Jonas
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: Brothers for years and now they actually know who actually is.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: They've no, no, I've went for a bit. Oh what
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Oh please explain They've known who I've been for a bit.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, sorry, I'm like, it's just like a nut anyway,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: your defensive note the Jonas Brothers. Okay, this is something
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: that I said. It goes. I'm like a really good
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: fan pretty much a professional, loyal and supportive also good
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: qualities for a musicians girlfriend. Yes, and then I also said, hey, hey,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: you you I don't like your girlfriend. I think you
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: need a new one. The official song of the summer
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: of two thousand eight and two thousand nine because Joe
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: was dating Taylor's Lift and Camilla Belle. And so what
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: do we take away from this? Don't tweet And to
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: the Jonas brothers have known Ashley for a wall time, Tracy,
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: thanks for joining us. Thanks for answer those questions. I
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: know it's not fun to talk about, but here's the deal.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: We don't know you any differently than what we've known
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: from the show, and you're sitting here today and we're
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: just thankful that you're here talking to us. Thank you
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: for having me. Um, there's so much I want to
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: break down with you, and there's so much ash she
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: wants to break down with you. But we've got to start.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: You were involved in a little drama this season. It
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: was involved in a little bit. How did you get
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: into that? Um? I believe it's started with the fact
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: that I'm this ancient old woman in the house and
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: you take one of the much younger girls and she
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: was just poking at me and poking at me, and
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I think I broke a lot quicker than I'd expected.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: One of your other cougar pals wasn't at women tell all,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: she was not a lease why not. Unfortunately, she was
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: in a wedding in Mexico and she could not be there. Yea.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I wish she was sad about that would be hurt.
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I was very sad. I'm a little sensitive right now, Tracy.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I feel you right. Actually, I want to know if
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: you we haven't talked about this yet ever in our friendship.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I'm turning thirty at the end of this month, and
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: I'm excited about it. I'm good should I was really
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: excited to turn Yeah, I feel good about it, Like
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: you know, there's some craziness to it, like where I
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: don't feel like a kid anymore. I don't feel like
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: I can just mess around anymore. I feel like there's
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: some responsibilities that I need to continue to consider. Um.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: But it's a life step and I'm I'm I feel
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: like my twenties were good to me and I'm ready
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: to move on. But I awesome a little sensitive at
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: this at the fact when I was single, of what
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: turning thirty meant being single, and so I felt that,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: you know, not that long ago and I know we
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of us have. So the fact I could
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: see myself being in a house trying my hardest to
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: find love on a crazy show, because hey, the world's
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: not working for me, so let's try to do reality television.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I get that perspective. And there's somebody there who's beautiful, younger,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: and has so many years ahead of her. She doesn't
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: feel or he doesn't feel the pressure of time on
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: his shoulders like we do, and they poke at you
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: and poke at you at a very I would break.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: I know I would. I would not handle that well.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: I would honestly probably get become a shell of myself,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: which isn't fair to you. Is that how you felt?
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Or am I just speaking for you know? I don't
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: think it was fair. Actually, I wanted a fair shot at,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: you know, meeting Colton and talking to him and having
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: my experiences with him when everyone got the chance to
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: sit down, and every single time I sat down, I
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: was interrupted by some joking situation like a bathrobe or
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: you don't see stuff happened in the pool one day.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: Just it was constant. So yeah, it was a little
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: unfortunate that I didn't get what I thought was a
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: fair shot always to speak to him. Yeah, did you
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: hope it was Colton? Then? I mean, you know he is.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: He is a little younger. I don't mind dating younger guys. Okay,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: So when you were signing up for the show going
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: to the casting, we often don't know who the batchelor's
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: going to be. Actually didn't think it was going to
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: be Colton. I didn't sign my contract until I knew
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: it was gonna That's when actually, I know you want me,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: so I'm not going on this it's this guy, And
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I said, Okay, Chris is the batchel we've got to have. Actually,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: they called me and they're like, are you going to
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: send in your contract? And I was like, I'm gonna
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: wait till the bachelor's announced. I didn't want it to
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: be r. Oh, really, we've never talked. You didn't want
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: it to be R. Yeah. I didn't think that R
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: and I would ever work out. Chris and I certainly
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have worked out though, either. So did you want
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: it to be Colton? Um? I was fine with a
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: bean Colton once I found out. I just didn't expect
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: it to be him. So I hadn't considered it. What
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: do you think coming off now the show. Yeah, the
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: show is done. It's ending up for everybody, right, mean,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: so everybody in this room that's been on the show,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Colton himself is moving on to a new chapter of
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: life completely. This was something you all tried. Yes, how
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: are your motions? How are you feeling? And after watching
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: it back and knowing you were involved in drama along
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: the way with Nicole and Demi, what are you thinking? Um?
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, I like to think I'm a little old
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: to be involved in this drama. So it sucks that
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I am constantly brought back into it, but I mean
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: it is what it is. Uh, But I mean I
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: want to keep dating and find someone and potentially go
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: to Paradise. Thank you for my Leaden. So you know
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: that they're going to put you in Demi against each other.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I am absolutely sure that that will happen. So you
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: still don't like loved Demi? Huh? I don't really how
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: to pick up a problem with her at this point.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, once we're back in that environment again, God
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: only knows that will happen. Seriously, your feud with her
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: seemed like nothing compared to her food with Courtney. Yea
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: and Courtney that got rough, was insane, actually handle herself.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: She's not here right, I think she's away in Atlanta,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: so you did not handle herself very well. And that
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: a pacifier like literally getting up into somebody's girl like that,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: like to get literally somebody's grill. I thought she was
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: actually gonna punch her. I was sitting directly behind Corney
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: and I saw her, like slow motion get up and
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, what is she doing. And
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: she starts to approach her faster and faster, and I
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: think we probably all thought she was going to punch
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: her in the face. It was the craziest thing I've
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: ever seen. I thought I was un in for a
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: very different show. Was not good. It was not good.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: She really did get in her face, shove a pass
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: for I would not have taken that well, showed a
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: pacifier in her mouth. I thought. I thought that was
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: one of the weirdest things that's happened. Um shish, little baby.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: She was like trying to make a point that, like
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Demi was a baby when one through the same age
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: that she wanted to make clear that Demi was the
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: more immature one in the situation, goes ahead, rows a
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: passify her in her mouth area, and she thinks that
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: that's proving she's more mature. Interesting stuff. Guys, Demi still
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: has this way though, to close that up with saying
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: all this stuff really being that pest that we've talked about,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: being the lovable pest and still like walking away from
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: these situations like pretty unscathed. Like she just sit there
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: and took it through her jabs, walked up on stage
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and did her thing and walked off smiling and everybody
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: clapped her. Demmy, it's like a scrappy box. Yes. Everyone.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Everyone loves her. And I love her now too because
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I met her, you know, and we did interviews after
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Womens at All and I was like, your bundle of
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: energy and joy, Like she's so fun. I loved her.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: She's a great time. I mean, that's de me for you, Tracy.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: We hope to see you in Paradise. I think we will.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I think we will. Um. I hope you prepare yourself
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: mentally for all this stuff that's gonna be coming up
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: in Paradise for you, that I can prepare myself a
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: little better this time around and maybe like push back
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: a little at time. We have three questions. We asked everybody,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Uh tonight. Yeah, First one is do you wish it
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: would have worked out with Colton? I wish it would
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: have just worked out with someone that I had a
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: connection with, Colton or anyone but Colton specifically. Do you
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: think it would have worked out? I think we had
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: a lot in common and he's someone that would have
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: been a really great friend for me. But no, we
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: probably weren't great for each other too. Who do do
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: you see Colton being most compatible with or is there
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: anyone he really would be in this group? Um? I
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: think he's probably the most compatible with Cassie. That's the
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: first that's the first vote for Cassie in the second
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: vote of the night. But why do you say that? Why? Um?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Because we saw it because of what we like. Um.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I mean he's distraught and heartbroken over her, and you
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: don't get that kind of emotion out of someone who
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: only has lukewarm feelings for someone. He is you can
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: tell he's very much in love with her and really
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: really wants it to work. So it's Cassie or nobody.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: And finally, who should be the next bachelor at other
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: than yourself? I think I'd make a great bachelor a personally. Um,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I think that Klin would make a beautiful bachelor at
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: actually so we had the first vote for Klin. Hey, Jcy,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: thank you so much. Carry yourself with poise, go on paradise,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: do something cool that we can talk about. I have
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun, find yourself love all right, thank you?
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  Speaker 1: success recently from Night one Exeters from the franchise grocery
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  Speaker 1: Dance with the Stars on tour and going on Paradise
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: and finding love. We have a Night one Exeter on
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: the podcast right now. Jane, Welcome to the Almost Famous podcast.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: I am totally team Joe. By the way, he's like
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: an angel in human form. How do you know? Well,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I mean I've watched and I feel like I have
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: a pretty good like perspective as like the audience does.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: So like, I mean, who doesn't love Joe, right, He's
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: like he's the most one of the most lovable guys
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: on TV. In my opinion, he's kind of like your
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, I would imagine is he your role model?
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Kind of because I look at him and I'm like, Okay,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: he didn't make it far. He should have, right, but like,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: now look at him. He was like on Dancing with
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: the Stars, like people still got to see his personality,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: like he's sweet, he's funny. So like I look at
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: him and I'm like, okay, whatever, you don't have to
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: make it far. If you have a presence, you know
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: the audience will recognize it. Anyways, let's be really honest here.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: There's one person for every every season of Paradise that
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: was eliminated night one, one lucky person gets that chance
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: again and right, and I think it's between you maybe
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: now after this woman tell all and floff girl, it's
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: gonna be a battle. I mean, gosh, I love her
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: so much, like me and her super similar because they're
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: both outgoing and like funny. I mean, if you look
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: at the women tell all, I do feel like I
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: had a little bit more of like more of opinions
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: to say. Um, but if it does come down to
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: me and her made the best woman win both of us,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: where I high five the slaty What is it like?
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, we haven't talked to a Night one Exeter
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: since Joe, but Joe's was a little different because all
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: of a sudden he blew up on the Twitter sphere.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: What is it like to prepare for the show, go
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: on the show, and then leave Night one? Like? What
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: is that? Honestly? What are those feelings like? I mean,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: you know, getting ready for it, Like, at least in
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: my experience, like I walked in there and I was
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: like I felt confident. I like, I'm pretty like open
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: and I'm not really shy, so for me, like I
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: didn't really have like too many barriers. So when you
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: go home night one after feeling confident, it's kind of
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: like a pretty big downer. Like I was almost like
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: I kind of self doubted myself for a little while.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: But I'm back, I'm alive, I'm here, I'm ready prepared eyes.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: And I'm just kidding, how did that conversation with go?
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: You know, our conversation went so well it didn't even air,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: like people didn't even get to like see it on TV.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: But like, our convo went so good. We were laughing,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: like there were no awkward pauses, There was no like
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: twirling of the hair, like what do I say next?
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Like the conversation was really flowing. So I think that
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: was like a really big surprise, like when I got
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: sent home because our one on one went pretty good.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: What's it then like watching the whole season back, knowing
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: you were at the mansion on night one, and now
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: you see these women who you probably didn't know well
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: but you ran into on that night, you know, pursuing
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: this Colton guy and now falling in love, and you
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: watch this whole thing now as a fan. Yeah, I
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: feel like my perspective as well as like, I think
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: there was one other girl and the women tell all
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: who went home night one, So I feel like our
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: perspective really resides with the audience because we watched it
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: all on TV um and I don't know some of
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the girls. I was just like, Oh, they're just sitting
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: there to that really taking much action, Like I don't
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: really see their personality. So for some of them, I
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: was a little surprised, um, but definitely looking back at
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: night one, Um, maybe I should have taken more action.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: You know at a second, Jane, you acted as if
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: you were friends with Kaylin. You don't know Klin. Well,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: see again, my perspective comes from watching the whole season,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: like just like the audience, and I don't know she
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: held herself with class and dignity. You know, I didn't
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: see her going to Colton talking like deep behind other
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: girls as backs. But they were all attacking here. But
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: you were refuting stuff that you don't actually know happened
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: or did not happen. Well, I stated in Women to All,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I'm like watching it from television. I think she held
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: herself with dignity. And I think a lot of girls
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: are jealous, and I think a lot of girls are insecure.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Um and yeah, I think they were all just snaking
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: up on her, and like I honestly felt bad, like
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: I have her back. Like just from my perspective, it
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: is a it is an interesting moment when when somebody
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: to go home sits there and at the tell all right,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: because you do sit there as a fan like everybody else,
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: you had a unique fans perspective, and then you choose
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: to speak up, which I think for everybody watching goes wow,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: that doesn't happen very often. What was going through your
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: mind in that second and that moment to go, I
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: need to say something now and this is my this
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: is my time to say It was this before after
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: the tequila shot. No, I'm not kidding actually, and that
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: was like my little trap. Um. I was like, whatever,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I have an opinion. I'm not scared to state it. Um.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I never bash anyone, but like, I'm going to be honest,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: and I am team Kalin. I think she's classy, I
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: think she has dignity, and like when all of them
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: attack her, like I'm gonna step forward. I don't blame
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: me for that. I mean, hey, this is your moment,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: take it or leave it, and I hope you have
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: another moment. In Paradise. We're asking every single person that
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: sits down the night these three questions. Jane, do you
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: wish it would have worked out with Colton? Why? I'm
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: so sorry. You know, He's just not my cup of tea,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Like I prefer strong coffee. Actually no, no, no, let
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: me rephrase that. I prefer like, I know the man
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: that I marry is going to be the kind of
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: man where when a girl walks up to him for
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: the fourth time asking if she can interrupt, my man
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: is gonna be like this babe is crazy. No, you
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: cannot interrupt for the fourth time. That's the kind of
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: backbone I want in a man. So we don't want coffee,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Like, let's you know that, Let's
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: make it an espresh of shot, you know, like ay
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: question the second question, who remaining do you want to
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: see Colton with? If any? I mean, gosh, I keep
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: saying team Calin. I do like Halin, I do like Tasia.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: I feel like they were the most like easy going
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: with him. Um, it just seemed the most natural to
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: and finally, outside of yourself, who should be the next
• 35:04
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• 35:08
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• 35:10
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• 35:16
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  Speaker 1: I think this girl's great. I have no clue why
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  Speaker 1: have Brie on the podcast in person this time, welcome back,
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  Speaker 1: finally meet you guys. Thank you, Brie. Um. You talk
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  Speaker 1: to us a couple like a month ago, I want
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  Speaker 1: to say, and you're like, I wish I had more airtime.
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• 37:32
  Speaker 1: what is going on? I'm pulling forward. She's one of
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: my favorites, and I watched tell all and you're not there.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: You're literally wrikingly beautiful, like you're like, thank goodbye, like
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: that was on crack like above. Um, I wanted to
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: say more, Honestly, I just I don't know. I wasn't
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: there for the drama. I left so early, So honestly
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I didn't know about what was going on in the house,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: and I just I didn't feel like I needed to
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: like add to anything that was going on with Nicole
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: or with Demi or whatever. I didn't. I didn't have
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: anything to say. I'm more of, like, you know, sweet
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: and soft with my words. I don't want to hurt
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: anyone's feeling. So I kind of just sat there and
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: waited until I was called on. And because our last guest,
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Jane who night one, was like she I just had
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: to say something, had such a voice. I was really surprised,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: very surprised. But I don't know. Yeah, Brie, I'm more
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: team year thought process on this, because I don't I
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: think like, if you weren't there, you can't like act
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: as if you really know facts, Like you have an
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: opinion based on what we all saw, but you don't
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: know I'm basically just a viewer like anybody else, just
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: commenting on what's happened on the show because I'm seeing
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: it all just from TV. I didn't have anything to say.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: I didn't need to add anything and make less of
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: anybody there, So I didn't need to add to that.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: What do you think, Ben, I mean, I'm with Brie
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: in this. I mean, I just think, you know, there's
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: a unique situation. Yes, at your moment, and you've been
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: on the show, and yes, you're sitting up there and
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: it's exciting, and you have you can talk whenever you want,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: So I get that. You know, you if you went
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: home at night one, it's probably exciting for you. But
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I remember during Caitlin season The Bachelotte, there's a guy
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: that had went home early on and was kind of
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: criticizing Caitlin, and I was very angry. I took it
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: very personally because I was like, you just haven't been
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: there to get to know her. You have no right
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: to speak, and so I don't think. I don't know
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: if it's harsh or not. I don't think if you
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: weren't around during the tell, you don't have a right
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: to talk like you you don't know the insides of
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: the story. You know, it's like you can't don't go
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: here like you don't you can't talk about Colton like
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: six weeks down when you weren't there for the six
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: weeks and seeing him cry and cry with him breathe. Yes,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: I still don't get it. So, I mean, because here's
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. He's looking at your face, but he
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: has a girlfriend, so yeah, but I'm looking at you
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: and I have a girl crush on you. So this
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: is what surprising to me, honestly is you. You throw
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: off more bachelorette vibes than any buddy else that I
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: can think of in the season right now, you think,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: I mean the soft spoken. I want to be kind,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I want to be considerate. I don't want to speak
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: outside my turn. I want to make sure that I'm
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: listening to everybody that's bachelortte material. Why isn't the conversation happening? Well,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: I mean there wasn't enough to go off of. Frustrating
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: no one knows about me. I mean, there wouldn't be
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: a much interest. I don't think compared to other girls
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: that you would know that make it farther into this season.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, I think there's going to be some interest
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: after Paradise. Well you were interested in Dean, you said,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Ben and Dean. But Ben is a taken man now.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: So we heard that Kaylin sleeped In sleeped In slipped
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: in to Dean's d MS before the season. I didn't
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: going back. Who's going to get Dean? I didn't know
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: that actually, Um, but Kayl and I were friends outside
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: of the show. We talked, We're hanging out tomorrow and I, um, yeah,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: So I mean it's up for grabs, you know. Will
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: you ask Caitlin tomorrow night for us? Who's gonna get Dean?
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: You or her? You guys over the place? Here can
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: we do? And we've done these a zillion times, we
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: proposed this idea of a zillion times. But let's make
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Dean the almost famous bachelor and we'll have you guys
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: all in the in the running. I actually just texted
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Dean while we're here and I said, all these girls
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: want you. It's so nuts. Why isn't he here tonight?
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: He is just getting back. He just got back yesterday
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: from Japan. Yeah, Dean, Dean has that way about with
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: with the ladies. Good for Dean, Um, I don't know
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: if he's interested in anybody right now. I think he's
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: traveling the world and having a blast doing it. Um
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: So Caitlin slides in the d MS. We talked abut
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: a little bit ago. She's your friends, so you're never
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: back here. We can't get we can't figure out is
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: it okay to slide into a bachelor or bachelor at
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: Contestants d m s and then go on the show.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: So you slide in before the show and then you
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: go on to the show. Is that Is that an issue?
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know is this public knowledge? Like, how do
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: you guys know that? Because Kerpa, you were there, you
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: weren't listening. Ka didn't name names in. Um, yeah, I
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: didn't know. But um, to be honest, I mean about
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: a year or two ago, I was in. Was his
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: name Chase? Yeah, I reached in, you know, That's what
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: I said. I would have done it as a fan
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: girl before Calf. Yeah, I've been watching the show. I
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: thought it was cute. I actually saw him at Horror
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: and it's a couple of years ago and I was like, yeah,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna stay what's up? And it didn't go anywhere.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's did he respond, Yeah,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say it didn't go anywhere. Okay, Yeah,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: well that'd been juicy. I would like that anyways. Um,
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's wrong. I really don't. I mean
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: I think before you know you're going on the show,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: you see somebody your attract to, you're interested in, uh,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: and you say hi, what's up? And you see where
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: it takes you. I mean, I slid in the d
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: M S. I'm getting I got better at it. Look
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: what it brought me. You can't hold yourself back. It's
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: just the way of the road these days, you know.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: It's it's how we meet people. You know. Where is
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: life going to take you? I mean we I follow
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: on Instagram. Now you're modeling, You're you're traveling. Now, this
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: was happening way before the show started. What is life
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: going to look like for you in this Paradise A
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: part of it? I hope. So I would love a
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: chance to be on Paradise. Um kind of just doing
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: the same thing I was doing before the show hasn't
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: changed too much. Um. So yeah, I'm hoping for a
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: second chance in Paradise. We'll see where that goes as
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: a model. Does it hurt your career or help it
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: to be on the show? Because I know that Courtney Robertson,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: who of course got a villain edit and made it
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: to the final rows, she said it hurt her career,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: but with you, you went out a little bit more discreetly, right,
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: does it appens? So? I think because I didn't make
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: it as far on the show, it didn't affect me
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: in a negative way. I think it could. I know
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: that that happens to a lot of girls that go
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: on UM America's Next Top Model and things. I have
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: friends that have done that and it only hurt their career.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: So I mean that was definitely a risk that I
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: was taking by going on this show, and I don't
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Luckily it didn't do that. UM kind of just it's
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: been the same now before we close up, we've been
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: asking everybody the three questions, and I think are fun asked.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: But I want to ask you. Were you excited about
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: it being Colton? Um? I was excited to get to
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: know him. I didn't really know who was going to be.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I was just really interested in whoever would show up
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: because I felt like, UM, the bachelor always past a
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: well rounded guy and that's hard to meet in l A.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: And so I figured whoever it would be, he would
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: be a great guy. And he was. I hear that
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: a lot, that it's hard to date in l A.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: Do you guys agree it is? Yeah, it's hard to
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: date in l A, very hard. I've been single for
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: three years, so that's ridiculous. I think that that is
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: a travesty. I'm texting Bean after this. I'm saying, Dean,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're thinking, buddy, but you're an idiot.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: If you don't try this, you're not going to be
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: the better one. Actually not going after that. We're gonna
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: set up now we have our Dean is the almost
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: famous bachelor and Brie is the almost famous bachelor. At
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: let's do it. If I could buy and I'm gonna say,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: if I could buy Stock and Brie right now on.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I think these next couple of months she's going to
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: become a fan favorite and she is gonna rock Paradise.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Do you agree? Yeah? I think that you're alone. You
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: don't cost very much to buy in now, but the
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: people are going to be millionaires. Um predicting it now, Bree.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Three questions Okay, so the second question you got that one,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: and now the second question is who remaining do you
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: see Colton ending up with? And none of them is
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: an answer. None of them is an answer if you'd
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: like it to be. I'm really curious to see what happens. Um,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know where like this goes after Cassie. He
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: obviously seemed very into her and she left. Um, so
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what will happen next. Maybe
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: no one the so we have Jade Tanner's a little
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: little baby cry, Emmy's flipping in the background. It's late.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: I get it. Um all right, Briee. Outside of yourself,
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: who should be the next bachelorette? I don't know if
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: I could handle the bachelorette, to be honest, I don't
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: know if I want that for myself. Um. I think
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Tassia would be a great bachelorette. She was previously married
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: and in the house, she was an amazing woman and
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: friend everyone, So I think that she would really hold
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: herself well. And um, yeah, I think she's in for
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: the right reason. That's nice to hear. That is really
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: nice to hear. I like Tasha. I think Tassha Tasha
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: just seemed to get, uh the raw end of the
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: deal here At the end, the perfect storm happened and
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Tassia got pushed out. Why Colton was trying to shouldn't
• 46:44
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• 46:49
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  Speaker 1: this is something you can talk about all the time.
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  Speaker 1: How does this happen for you? Like, is this really?
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  Speaker 1: I had never been kissed. No, it was real. Have
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  Speaker 1: you kissed anyone since Colton? No? No, don't say like that. No,
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  Speaker 1: I have just every single person I see, every guy
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: on the street. Yeah, yeah, restaurants. Yeah. After my first kiss,
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  Speaker 1: I was dreading my second. I was like, I'm still
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  Speaker 1: not ready to jump back into that. I was scared
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  Speaker 1: It's too scary what your first Okay, thanks to feel
• 49:49
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• 49:52
  Speaker 1: there was your expectation to have your first kiss on
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: the show, like in life, like before the or like
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: once I was on the bat Okay, Um, I mean
• 50:03
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• 50:05
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• 50:08
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• 50:10
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  Speaker 1: I can't think of a better way to have your
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  Speaker 1: first kiss. I thought it was fantastic been on the show.
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• 50:21
  Speaker 1: I would have been waiting. I would have saved myself
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: at that moment, because you sure knew it that there
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: was gonna be fireworks, blasts in the background, a lot
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: of like just intense girl. But here's what I gotta
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: tell you. You did great. I watched that back so
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: replay like you had. You had great friction. I thought
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: your mouth's aligned just perfectly. You moved at the perfect rate,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: and there's a rhythm to it. I thought, for your
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: first kiss, how did you learn or how did you
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: prepare for that moment? I didn't prepare. I mean I
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: was terrified the shower wall. I did the shower wall,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: and I did my arm. I mean not too much,
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: but enough enough, like enough to at least feel how
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: it feels. Yeah, I didn't prepare at all of the
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: When I got the date card, I literally Hannah by
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: she wasn't really one of my really close friends. They
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: look at her and I'm like, help me. Yeah. I
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: was like, like I was terrified because I was like,
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: on the one on one either I'm gonna go home
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: or I'm gonna kiss him, like it was one of
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: the two. It wasn't really you know, it was gonna happen.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: So I was just like, like, I was panicked. So
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: the entire day I was just like, Oh my gosh,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: how did she help you? Did she give you some
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: good advice? What did she say? She just gave you
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: some advice. I can't even remember now. I kind of
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: blocked it all out, but yeah, she's just like, hey,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: just she just kind of pet me up a little bit.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: But I thought that was one of the most underrated
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: moments that we didn't talk about in this season is
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: the fact that Heather in the clutch with pressure on her,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: fireworks in the background, pulled through and just has an
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: amazing makeout session with Cold. You were so good, it
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: looked so natural. I would have never thought your hand
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: placement was great. Thank you so much. The only hard
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: part which we talked about was the lead up to it.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Colton did a terrible job but not making that moment
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: really awkward, Like there was a lot of like wanted
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: it to be awkward. No, I don't think he did.
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think he knew how to move. Maybe he
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: just didn't realize how awkward it was. But for the viewer,
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: I had to cover up my eyes during it because
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: he had like one arm around you. There was like
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: talking and then like looking off at the distance and
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: then talking. You're like, just kiss her, just kiss her,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: make it happen, and he did it, and then finally
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: it happened, and it's like this relief, but for a
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: long time it was like one of those awkward moments
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: on the show that's really hard to watch. Yeah, I know,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I was terrified. I honestly, I don't know why. I
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: didn't think like there was fireworks. I just didn't know
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: for sure. And I was like the whole like that
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: whole entire, like last ten minutes, I kind of like
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: blacked out. I really wasn't sure what was going on.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: But I was like, what's going to happen? We're standing here,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: and it was like a long time that was like
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: something's about to happen. So I was just like I
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: don't know I do not know how sad would have
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: benef it didn't happen. Oh if I was like, oh
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: this is special to wait until wasted for her because
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: I know she's not the one. Yeah, he could have.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: I mean that's what I wasn't like at the dinner.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: He could have said like sorry, like I don't I
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: don't think you're my wife and I don't want to
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: waste that. So I wasn't sure. You said that there
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: was some weird eight months relationship that you were in
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: and you didn't kiss the guy. I said. I think
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: on the podcast that this must have been just like
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: the producers saying, do you like, there must have been
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: some guy, so tell him a story about some close
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: to be relationship and you were like okay. So I
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: went on a couple of days with this guy. It
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: went over the span of eight months. I've had those
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: weird I like been on dates with guys and I
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: didn't kiss them until like date five because it was
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: so dragged out and separated. Was that what it was like? So?
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I dated a guy after college and he was super
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: intentional with dating and he had gotten out of a
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: really intense relationship and where he was it was super
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: intense relationships. So I he was really interested in pursued
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: me and asked me on dates, and I just really
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: wasn't sure, Like I just wasn't You just didn't like him,
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: You were not sure because I, like, I wanted to
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: like him so badly, good on paper, had everything I wanted,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: and I wanted to like him so badly. So I
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: kept going on dates with him for eight months for
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: a long time. But he knew my situation, so he
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: knew you had ever been kissed. Yeah, we were friends
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: before and then, but he wasn't such a serious relations
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: relationship before that. I didn't want to give him any
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: further affirmation if I wasn't fully feeling okay, it was
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: just bad. I don't know this hits deep. I actually
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: I have talked about it many times, like just talking
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: about relationships and how that works in the pressure when
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: you you know, say you're a virgin with Colton or
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: you haven't been kissed like that, people don't want to
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: take that from you. So here's the big question now
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: and then it's happened, and man, we're really expounding on
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: this kiss. So I'm sorry about that, but it's so
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: interesting to me. Do you regret having it happen. Oh
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: absolutely not. There we go. Hey, No, it wasn't radical
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: first kiss you could ever have. When people were like, no,
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to on TV, I was like, why
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: that's why else would you want? It could have been more?
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: For Acre, You're never going to regret having your first
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: kids with a hot guy, like a nice guy on
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: TV with fireworks. Yeah, it was highly It could have
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: been better. It could not even better. I wish I
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: was sometimes. Okay, my last question for you is you
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: left on your own, and I have this inkling that
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: you left on your own because you're like, rather saying
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: goodbye on my own and then have to say to
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: have him say goodbye to me at a rose ceremony,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: that's a well, that's what my fear doing that because
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want people to think that.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's what That was my biggest fear. When
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: I wasn't fear because I was like, I don't want
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: people to think like, oh I think I'm gonna get
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: broken up with and so I need to dump in first.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: That's so stupid. I could care less. So you really
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: didn't really didn't feel it. So he expressed that week
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: in Denver that he was so serious about wanting to
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: get engaged at the end of this and that that
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: was something he absolutely wanted. And I felt like at
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: the point in our relationship that I just didn't have
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: enough time with him at that change things up for Cassie.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: He said, never mind, don't need to get engaged. Unbelievable world.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: I'm stressed out for everybody right now. We've asked every
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: guest that's came on three questions. Ready for him? Ready?
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Do you wish it would have worked out with Colton? No? Obviously,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Now you left yourself go why did you break it?
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: You just went into it. I just I didn't have
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: enough time. He wanted to get engaged, That's what he said,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: and so I just didn't think I had enough time
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: with him to know, and I wasn't fully confident, and
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I knew that the other girls, a lot of the
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: other girls, the four girls left, were so got it. Okay,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: number two, which are the remaining girls? If any do
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: you think will be good with Colton? I think Hannah
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: g R. Cassie, I think both of them. Okay, wow,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: interesting votes. Cassie. I think I think that they would
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: be a good I think Cassie and Colton they're a
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: good match. Like I really do like their lifestyles, like
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: everything about them. I really like even during the show,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: like I was like, yeah, they would be a really
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: good match. But I mean, I don't know. Okay, final
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: question outside of yourself, we would't even ask you yet.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Are you gonna go on Paradise? I don't know of course. Okay, anyways,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: I'll set of yourself. Who should be the next Bachelor
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: at one of the Hannah, Oh no, Hanna be She's mine.
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: But like Hannah, Gee, that's totally fine too, both of them.
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: I'm fine with the Hannah. I'm fine with one of
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: the Hannah's perfect. Okay, wait, are you gonna have your
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: second kiss ever on Bachelor Paradise? See the second kiss
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: for Paradise? And then when you look at the camera
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: and give us this thumbs up like this for you
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: actually been Heather, Thank you so much, Thank you so much.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: This is fun. That's so fun. Alrighty, the this episode
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: is going to be closed up or till all I
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: thought was fantastic. I love for this episode. One of
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: our greatest works. We are next guest has his own podcast,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: now called The Vital Files. Um. He's been on the
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: podcast many times. He's one of bach your nation's most infamous,
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: iconic and legendary people. We love him. His name is Nick.
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Nick welcome back to the Almost Famous podcast. And he's
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: the only one that approaches us with his eyes on
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: his phone and not a smile. I'm just happy to
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: see here. That's a beautiful Jackie's gorgeous man's jacket. He
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: just always dresses night. How do you? How do you
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: dress nice all the time? I threw this on to
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: be quite honest with you, right after I painted you
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: painted shirt list today? Was it a livestream? No? No,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: I have to re I have to I'm gonna do
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: another one here. Wait, Nick, this is one of the
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: first things I want to talk to you about. Is
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: this real? Like you actually are that good at painting?
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: I just I just painted this man. No, you did not.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: I don't get how you do this, Nick? To make
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: it so, we're bringing Kurpran Heather back. They're walking past.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Do you believe that Nick is this good of a painter?
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: What are you talking about? I have to do another one.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're if you if you need to go
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: on Nick's Instagram at some point and follow this. It is.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: It is one of the most unbelievable things I've ever seen.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: I watched the first time back three times because like,
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: how have I never seen? What is this? What is this? Oh?
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: That was my first try at this paint. If you
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: don't know what we're talking about it, it's gonna be
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: up on Nick's story soon. Just keep checking. I'm coming
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: I they want to call it, I'm gonna get me
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: an I g t V and I'm gonna call it
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: paint therapy. Okay, wait, you say it's paint by the
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: numbers or paint? What is it called paint? What I'm
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: gonna do like a show? No? I know, but what
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: is this paint? I'm gonna talking paint. He's eating a starburst?
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: But how long have you had this skill? I mean
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: I have always I wanted to be a cartoons for
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Disney when I was a kid. How about how this
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: never came up on the show? And how have I
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: never known this? About? How hold on Sorr? I shouldn't
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: have chosen Well, so again, this is gonna this is
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: gonna be all I wrote I wrote on my first
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: season on on Andy season I I wrote that book
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: and I drew those pictures. That's so cute. So there
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: was a bit of an artist in you. I've always uh,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: I've always wanted I've always wanted to be an artist
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: when I was a kid, and then I just didn't
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: do it for twenty years. This it just shows where
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: I'm at in life and single and so I just
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: looking for hobbies and you know, things to do when
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: I'm alone at night. And you picked up painting, I
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: like it, are you going to display them in your home?
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: I thin't gonna give them away? It actually costs a
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: lot of like every time I do a painting. I
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: think with us, it's like a hundred bucks, like supplies
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: in the frame. I think we're just gonna give them away.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, like friends or like Oxen
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: and Waffe for charity or something or something like or
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: something maybe a way to like sell natural habitstential oils
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: dot com. I mean, yeah, please promote everything you got. Okay, Nick, uh,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: we have a big night ahead of us still, and
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: so let's get to the point. Who do you think
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: should be the next bachelor? At Uh? Hannah be she
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: really warmed up to me here's the thing. UM, A
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: couple of reasons why I think Hannah Be will Be
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: is the best pick amongst the women. Um. She had
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: mildly unfavorable at it early on, uh and then really
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: warmed up, and I think everyone liked her more. UM.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: I think it's a really compelling storyline, especially and I
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: think Klin is great. I like Kalin um, but um,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: certainly Klin is gunning for the bat sharrette and I'm
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: I'm assuming she wants it to so for Hannah Be
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: to get over Kalin. She like, finally beat finally, you know,
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: it's like the underdog story. And think she was as
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: jealous of me and she did it and I Karen
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: just fine. I also think Hannah b is the most uh.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: She emots the most and the most interesting, and she
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: will probably it will She's the most entertaining to watch.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: She's she's not safe. She makes me giddy to watch.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: She will she will do things that she regrets, and
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I will enjoy watching it. Okay, So I think she
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: would be a great choice. So this episode, UM, with
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Colton and the fence jump, would you call that the
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: most dramatic? Which I haven't I haven't been able to
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: look to see how the reactions. Chris Harrison said, they
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: broke the world, break the world. It's a bit hyperbolic,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: but it has to be one of the most It's
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: gonna be like bird Box where everybody's like jumping over
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: fences today. I'll be honest a little envious of Colton
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: because he did have the most dramatic episode of her No. Well,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know how this is all going to play out,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: but it sounds like a quit. It sounds like it
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: looks like he's gonna chase the girl he likes, and
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: you know he's it's gonna it's romantic looking. And you know,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Cassie has been clear that she's not ready to get engaged,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: so he like, there's no pressure to get engaged anymore
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: for Colton. So you're jealous because you wish you could
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: have just dated instead of getting engaged. Well, I mean,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: like it's just it's a it's a lot less pressure,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: um to just to keep it real. Um. And I
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: think there's stresses that the engagement can can bring. Um.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a it's an interesting interesting it's
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: an interesting episode. So there's a tweet that I want
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: to ask you about nick uh that Colton has tweeted
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: it says the realist moment ever hashtagg the batchelor. Do
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: you believe this was the realist moment ever in Bachelor history?
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: I don't love that Colton tweeted that himself. Yeah, it's
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: a little self promoting. Uh. Do I think it's the
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: most realist? I mean it's a It was a great episode.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I think there's been a lot of real moments. I mean,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know you could pick the do you think
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: you could pick the most realist? I felt like there's
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: some episodes, there's some moments that we had that I'll
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: tell you what I mean. Had Vanessa left in that moment,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: I probably would have done the same damn thing. Um,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you would have felt if Lauren
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: when I left in that moment, Probably similar, I think.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: I think what's interesting about this episode is that it
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: it kind of and I'm proud of the show for
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: airing it, is that they kind of showed what would
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: ultimately prayby happen every season at this point, I think
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: it's pretty common for the lead to have a favorite
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: or a front runner at this point, and if your
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: front runner or your favorite at this Laten game decides
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: to leave. Even if you weren't sure about your decision,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: it's gonna make you into panic mode and and make
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: you want to you know, the whole want way. You
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: can't have element maybe players and and so I think
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: Colton's reacting authentically to it. Is it more real than
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: you know everyone else who's in those you know, you're
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: only a product of whatever environment you're in. You know, Um,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: it was real for you to fill Joejoe and Lauren
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: that you know, like you know, it's just it's whatever
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: happens happens. Um. I mean, you could have a bad decision,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: but it was probably a real moment when I when
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: I you know, afar with Andy you regrettable but real. Um,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't. I don't. It's it's been self
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: promoting at that point. It's a little weird, alright, feel
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: himself right now. I don't know to tweet during this
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: during this episode, I think at all, say what you
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: feel then come out. That's exactly I said. It's it's
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: odd to tweet it all during this episode. So, um,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: I don't. I think this episode is so emotional and
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: so hard to watch it, I think do you think
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: it takes away from the real illness of it a
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: little bit? Yeah? I think it does. Almost like if this, yeah,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: you couldn't you couldn't talk about this openly? Uh, if
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: it was if it hurt that much? And so this
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: is what this is where I'm reading into this. Then
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: now I wonder what happens in the weeks to follow,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: because if if he's at a place where he can
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: emotionally tweet about this and watch it back with confidence
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: and at least enough clear he's either a uh he
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  Speaker 1: was either a full of or be with Yeah. So
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  Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. It's pointing to what's happening next
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  Speaker 1: to him being Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's my theory.
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  Speaker 1: So if that's the case, let's make let's lead under
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  Speaker 1: that assumption. Are you jealous too because he gets to
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  Speaker 1: be with the girl and not have to get engaged? Um, no,
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to get engaged. I was confident, but not
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  Speaker 1: want to get engaged. But what were you ready to
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  Speaker 1: get engaged? Yeah? I was, I was, but I can
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  Speaker 1: see me like ready in life, I'm going to engage tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: I think Ben was ready to get I was, I was,
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  Speaker 1: I was. I I do think though, what it does
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  Speaker 1: say and I get what you're saying, is it takes
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  Speaker 1: the pressure off um and that he kind of gets
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  Speaker 1: to have his cake and eat it too, which a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, which is not ideal for anybody in this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing. Well also also like Colton is probably too
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  Speaker 1: young to get engaged. That was kind of the big
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  Speaker 1: that I wrought the same age. You were at a
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  Speaker 1: different place in your life. You're not you were. You
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  Speaker 1: weren't a virgin. You you dated more than three people. Um,
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  Speaker 1: you had experienced. Colton, by his own admission, hasn't had
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  Speaker 1: no experience with dating. And that was the one criticisms
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  Speaker 1: and going in that he's how could he be ready
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  Speaker 1: to get engaged? And now he's like, it's getting a loophole.
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  Speaker 1: It really worked out most fulfilling prophecy. Um. Okay, Nick,
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  Speaker 1: you have the new vile files UM file files. You know, UM,
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  Speaker 1: we wanted we don't talk about compete more of it
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: probably with Jared and Dean in Vanessa. How is yours
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  Speaker 1: different from how does how does that? I really mastered it?
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: Is it pretty good? Rights? How? What what are they
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: going to get from your podcast that they won't from
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: our Bachelor podcasts. Oh well, I mean we don't talk.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: We talk a little Bachelor, but it's not the focus,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of give the people what they want.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: We try to. It's a lot of dating stuff, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of life stuff. I really just kind of talked
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  Speaker 1: about what's on my mind. We take questions from fans
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: and they come in with their interesting dating stories and
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: um they we just try to get the nittigati, nitty gritty,
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  Speaker 1: um different ideas that come in my mind. Last week,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: we had a psychologist and we talked about anxiety and
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: depression and I kind of just talked about the things
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  Speaker 1: that I didn't get depressed and get anxiety about, and
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: hopefully it might be helpful and try to break down
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  Speaker 1: the kind of preconceived notions of what therapy is. This week,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: um on on this coming tomorrow, we'll be dropping an
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: episode talk about body issues. And I have two of
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  Speaker 1: my friends. They're both models. One is a curve model
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: or plus size model, if you will. The other one,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: uh is just a regular model. But like obviously they
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: are objectified every day for their bodies. And and I've
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: had some stories about, you know, mistakes I've made in
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: dating and just how people in their bodies and dating
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: is play a role, and it's just another topic we
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: talked about. Um. So yeah, we're just kind of having fun. Uh.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: I think when I have a Demi on the following
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: week fun. Yeah, I'm I wasn't sure if I was
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: gonna have her on. I was like, you know what,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: So Demi is gonna help me recap the Bachelor finale
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: and we'll we'll get into some maybe we'll talk about
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: internet bowling or bowling with Demi. Hey, I don't know,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: so we just talk. I just I like I like
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: to hear myself talk an absolute man. Hey, uh, let's
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: head out of here. It's been a big night, Nick,
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