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Football at Four: A Discussion the Day After On Eagles Big Win Over the Rams · Inside the Birds: A Philadelphia Eagles Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Football four is powered by the Inside of the Birds podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Ocean Casino Resort in Atlantic City. Jeff Mocher is here
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  Speaker 1: today from Inside the Birds and Philly Voice given his
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  Speaker 1: voice on the eagles improbable victory over the Rams yesterday
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  Speaker 1: and the Rams obviously showing why they are a, you know,
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  Speaker 1: big time contender in the NFC. They feel that they
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  Speaker 1: are right there with the Philadelphia Eagles, and for that Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: for essentially the entire game, they were the better team.
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  Speaker 1: Let's bring Jeff Mocher into the conversation here on a
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  Speaker 1: wild game motion. I know over the years we've seen
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  Speaker 1: a ton of wild moments, but that one has to
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  Speaker 1: take the cake of how the Eagles were able to
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  Speaker 1: come back and win that game with the way that
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  Speaker 1: they got not one but two blockfield goals. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and you needed both of those block field goals to
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  Speaker 1: be able to win that game yesterday. So is this
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  Speaker 1: a situation where you watch that game and field confinitely
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  Speaker 1: that Philadelphia is the better team or is just one
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  Speaker 1: of those just hey, they've found a way to win,
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  Speaker 1: but you got to get better.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot of questions. I don't know is I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I saw two different Eagles teams in one game.
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  Speaker 2: So one of them was better than the Rams, the
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  Speaker 2: other one was clearly not. So it just depends on
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  Speaker 2: which Eagles team specifically offense, although we can talk about
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  Speaker 2: the run defense too. But yeah, I mean, look, you
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  Speaker 2: win a game like that and you have to go
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  Speaker 2: back and look at all the things that went wrong.
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  Speaker 2: But I think first and foremost you have to realize
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  Speaker 2: how good you are to be able to do that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, to be able to execute offensively, defensively and
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  Speaker 2: on special teams, but not one, but two blocked field
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  Speaker 2: goals when you need it the most. There's not a
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  Speaker 2: lot of teams good to be able to do that.
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  Speaker 2: I know that there's a flucish nature of it, but
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  Speaker 2: I would disagree sort of like the team that did
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  Speaker 2: the mirror go in the Midlands too, right, that was
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  Speaker 2: a very very talented offense that just pay a live like.
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  Speaker 2: You can't do that if you don't have guys like
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  Speaker 2: DeShawn Jackson and Macklin and Zick right and Brent Selick.
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  Speaker 2: So I think that the Eples have a lot of
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  Speaker 2: things to work on. But I also think you to
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  Speaker 2: your question, not a lot of teams could have pulled
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  Speaker 2: that off, even with the momentum changers. They just don't
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  Speaker 2: have the ability to do well.
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  Speaker 1: And listen, we all know how talented they are, and
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  Speaker 1: that's one of the things that they keep talking about
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  Speaker 1: is you know, hey, we have so many weapons. Why
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  Speaker 1: are we not showcasing them? That was kind of the message, right,
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't that kind of the message from Jalen Hurts
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  Speaker 1: and AJ Brown after the game is like, hey, why'd
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  Speaker 1: you win?
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  Speaker 2: Well?
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be uh, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: pat myself on the back, but they threw me the
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  Speaker 1: damn ball, essentially, is what AJ Brown said, and Hurt's
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  Speaker 1: essentially saying the same thing that that first half that
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  Speaker 1: can't be who we are.
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  Speaker 2: No, And that's you heard that from Hurst and you
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  Speaker 2: heard it from a J. Brown, And clearly they were frustrated.
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  Speaker 2: And I guess you know, I don't normally blame play
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  Speaker 2: balling or play concept, play design, but if you look
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  Speaker 2: at the seventeen plays between the touchdown, the score in
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  Speaker 2: the first quarter and then when they finally got that
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  Speaker 2: thirty eight yard er to AJ Brown that set up
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  Speaker 2: the Goddard touchdown. I mean, I think Barkley was either
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  Speaker 2: a ball carrier or a ball catcher on ten or
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  Speaker 2: eleven of those plays. I mean they were forced feeding
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  Speaker 2: the ball to say Von Barkley, and the ball in
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  Speaker 2: that seventeen play span never went past ten yards in
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  Speaker 2: the air for about fifteen to those seventeen so or no,
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  Speaker 2: none of the steams. Sorry, they just were not making
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  Speaker 2: the most use of what they have. It did feel like,
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  Speaker 2: I think Jalen said this after the game, they were
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  Speaker 2: sort of playing not to make a mistake instead of
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  Speaker 2: playing to attack. And you can't do that when you
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  Speaker 2: have as much talent as the Eagles have. I understand
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  Speaker 2: that there was a history there of Barkley just exploding
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  Speaker 2: against them, and maybe they were just expecting that to
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  Speaker 2: happen sooner or later. But you can't just find yourself
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden in a twenty six seven hole
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  Speaker 2: before you realize that maybe there's some other guys in
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  Speaker 2: the field that you should be throwing with long two.
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  Speaker 1: So the second half is that a different offense? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what do you make of the way they opened it
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  Speaker 1: up in the second half, with the success that they
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  Speaker 1: were able to have.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think a couple of things changed one and
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  Speaker 2: I asked put this one on the coach's decision making.
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  Speaker 2: I personally would ask Fred Johnson out there immediately when
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  Speaker 2: Lane Johnson came out. Fred Johnson, you traded for, you
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  Speaker 2: gave a picks because you weren't happy with your depth
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  Speaker 2: on the offensive line. So why did you put Matt
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  Speaker 2: Pryor out there at right tackle when you had Fred
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  Speaker 2: Johnson is beyond me because I think you saw an
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  Speaker 2: immediate difference after that strip sack. The next drive is
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  Speaker 2: when they put Johnson in. Then that's when you saw
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  Speaker 2: the thirty eight yard of the brown and then the
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  Speaker 2: touchdown to Goddard. So to me, that's an unsung part
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  Speaker 2: of it, small part of it to have that protection
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  Speaker 2: and have that like you know, at least I don't
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  Speaker 2: want to say experience that Prior's experience, but you just
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  Speaker 2: had more of a safer feeling with Fred Johnson there
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  Speaker 2: because Prior really got killed diverse on that play that
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  Speaker 2: led to the turnover. So I think that was that
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  Speaker 2: was part of it. And then the conscious decision then
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  Speaker 2: on that drive for the next drive really to start
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  Speaker 2: throwing the ball and stop force feeding Sae Kwon Barkley
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  Speaker 2: led them to find success because A J. Brown caught
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  Speaker 2: that that one handed you know, cats along the right sideline.
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  Speaker 2: Jalen went deep. It was funny because it came right
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  Speaker 2: after a land and it came right after a landon
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  Speaker 2: Dickerson holding penalty. Hirson ran for throughout two or three
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  Speaker 2: yards on second seven or eight, and then they got
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  Speaker 2: negated and they're back behind the sticks and I'm sure you, Mike,
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  Speaker 2: I was everybody in the land cruise already making it
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  Speaker 2: clear how they felt. Figured no great second and well
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  Speaker 2: hevens another dump off the state, one in the flat
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  Speaker 2: or maybe a roun or something like that. And they
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  Speaker 2: got a good look with AJ Brown, a nice slug
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  Speaker 2: going out on the corner and he hit it and
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  Speaker 2: then next thing you know, Dallas Cotter touchdown. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: obviously the change was that they felt like they needn't
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  Speaker 2: throwing the ball to off their people and get the
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  Speaker 2: entire pass offense involved.
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  Speaker 1: So what does this say about their offense?
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  Speaker 2: Now?
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  Speaker 1: What do we learn about the offense and what it
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  Speaker 1: can be Because what we've seen the first three weeks is,
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  Speaker 1: you know, you're skating by against a Dallas team that's
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  Speaker 1: been shredded defensively. I mean, their defense is not good,
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  Speaker 1: and you struggled to move the ball and score against
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  Speaker 1: that team. Kansas City has a better defense, but obviously
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  Speaker 1: you had to crawl and sclatch to score against that team.
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  Speaker 1: And then yesterday, you know, obviously for the first half
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  Speaker 1: you could. So what do you I know, it's small
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  Speaker 1: sample sized three weeks in. What do we make of
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  Speaker 1: what this Eagles offense?
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  Speaker 2: Is? Great question? I wrote about this on Philly Voice.
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  Speaker 2: To me, it's a shreaky offense and it's not the
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  Speaker 2: same as last year because Barkley hasn't he's been featured
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  Speaker 2: as much. He just hasn't had the big explosive runs.
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  Speaker 2: And they finally got some explosive plays yesterday in the
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  Speaker 2: second half. But I don't think the offense. For all
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  Speaker 2: the talk of a new iteration of it and new
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  Speaker 2: concepts that will be sprinkled in to kind of keep
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  Speaker 2: it fresh, you know, they wanted to take last year's
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  Speaker 2: concepts and just add a little bit to it, I
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  Speaker 2: can't say I've seen anything added. In fact, even when
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  Speaker 2: they were doing well, if you look at the plays,
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  Speaker 2: you know that like they aid like again. The aj
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  Speaker 2: Brown catch thirty eight yards, so Dallas Goddard catched thirty
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  Speaker 2: three yard touchdown. Devonte Smith had a really nice sixteen
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  Speaker 2: yard catch on a left side deep dig right. Those
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  Speaker 2: are all plays that the Eagles typically run. I think
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  Speaker 2: that they are no different than last year conceptually, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm just saying
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  Speaker 2: that that's what they said. They didn't want to be
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  Speaker 2: They wanted to add new things into it. I haven't
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  Speaker 2: seen anything or fresher, and I think that there's still
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  Speaker 2: This doesn't mean like you know, and now all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden they're gonna come out like just gangbusters and
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  Speaker 2: start throwing the ball all over the place. They did
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  Speaker 2: try some throws in the first half. It didn't work.
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  Speaker 2: There were a couple of plays that I saw on
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  Speaker 2: tape where you know, there's there's mesh concepts whereas guys
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  Speaker 2: wide open cluster the middle, doesn't throw it. So, I
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  Speaker 2: mean they are what they are there. They're a team
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  Speaker 2: that surprises you every one in a while because they
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  Speaker 2: just start It's like once Jalen gets a little hot,
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  Speaker 2: he just gets on fire and throws these throws these
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  Speaker 2: balls and then but they're for the most part, going
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  Speaker 2: to be that they're gonna try to run, They're gonna
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  Speaker 2: try to work some play action. I just think the't
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  Speaker 2: have to be less. I think the conservative label was
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  Speaker 2: very fair, and they need to not be so married
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  Speaker 2: to trying to for seed sa kuon Parkley as much
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  Speaker 2: as they were trying to do in that game.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Jeff Boscher Football at four from the Inside
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  Speaker 1: the Birds podcast Inside the Birds dot com and check
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  Speaker 1: out his reactions over at Philly Voice dot com. And
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  Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the stuff we're talking about
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  Speaker 1: is on the offensive side of the ball, but the
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  Speaker 1: role that the defense played in kind of giving the
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  Speaker 1: offense a chance to get back because you know, they
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  Speaker 1: kept holding him to the field three field goals in
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  Speaker 1: the first half. And that was the one thing I
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  Speaker 1: observed at halftime was, you know, I'm sitting there watching
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  Speaker 1: the game with me and my dad his law partner anywhere,
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  Speaker 1: sitting there and he's saying the defense hasn't been very good,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, they're kind of giving you a
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  Speaker 1: shot to stay in the game here. They kept it
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  Speaker 1: within reach. But I guess you just never felt the offense,
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  Speaker 1: but the defense really changed in the second half.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it. And I would amend to your statement
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  Speaker 2: a little bit to say that. And this is kind
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  Speaker 2: of sources putty hairs, right. I don't know if it
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  Speaker 2: was the defense with seeing them in the game or
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  Speaker 2: it was just Matthew Stafford keeping the Eagles in the game,
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  Speaker 2: because I thought he missed at least five or six throws. Yep,
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  Speaker 2: there there was no pressure, but I will say maybe
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  Speaker 2: the perception of pressure forced his clock to be sped
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  Speaker 2: up a little bit. And if that's the case, then
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  Speaker 2: you know, you credit the Eagle because if you can
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  Speaker 2: win the intimidation game that to win, that speaks to
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  Speaker 2: your talent level and what you got. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: he faced them a couple of times now and he's
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  Speaker 2: thinking some hits and you know, you know in both
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  Speaker 2: games last year and this year he didn't take as
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  Speaker 2: many hits. But again that's because I thought he was
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  Speaker 2: sort of hurrying a bunch of his throws. I there
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  Speaker 2: were like five or six pros, and I circled in
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  Speaker 2: my notebook the game. I'm like, that's pro that Matthew
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  Speaker 2: Stafford usually makes. And so he left points on the board.
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  Speaker 2: He said it after the game too. He completely acknowledged
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  Speaker 2: that he left points on the boards.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's right. I mean he definitely left some points
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  Speaker 1: out there and missed some throws and you know, the
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  Speaker 1: stuff that the Eagles did capitalize on. But the fact
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  Speaker 1: that they held him to the three field goals in
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  Speaker 1: the first half, that was an underrated part of this
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  Speaker 1: whole thing is because if they scored more points in
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  Speaker 1: that first half, you're not able to you know, you
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  Speaker 1: would have ran out of time had they converted some
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  Speaker 1: of those. And I also thought the big play in
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  Speaker 1: the game that was interesting was fourth and two block
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  Speaker 1: the field goal. The fact that they even attempt at
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  Speaker 1: the field goal there because it still made it only
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  Speaker 1: a one score game even if they make the field goal.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, yep, that was huge. I thought, I agree with
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  Speaker 2: you on that. I also thought two Jordan Davis plays
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  Speaker 2: that were not field goal blocks are pretty huge. The
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  Speaker 2: third and two two we chased down Matthew Stafford, and
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  Speaker 2: of course the fourth and one on Tyram Williams. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: he had four plays if you take well, I guess
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  Speaker 2: really Jill and Carter gets credited.
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  Speaker 1: The fourth and gets lost in the sauce because you
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  Speaker 1: go four and out.
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  Speaker 2: Right right, but it still it kept them from scoring.
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  Speaker 2: You saw how quickly on their last drive that they
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  Speaker 2: moved down the field and we were able to get
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  Speaker 2: in field goal positions. So I just thought Jordan Davis
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  Speaker 2: single handled the almost you know, when that came for them.
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  Speaker 1: Like it's a complete transformation for him too, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: and that before you were always talking about him being
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  Speaker 1: somewhat of a disappointment and are they be happy with
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  Speaker 1: the role that they have with him? And now here's
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  Speaker 1: the guy who, by the way, correct me if I'm wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Is he a free agent at the end of the
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  Speaker 1: year or is he you know, the fifth year option
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  Speaker 1: they picked up, But he's a free agent at the
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  Speaker 1: end of the year, right, He.
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  Speaker 2: Is not a free engine at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 2: He because they picked up his fifty year option. This
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  Speaker 2: is this year four for him.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so they picked up the fifth year option so
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  Speaker 1: that he's here again next year, gotcha? But yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: played obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say he's also on a on
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  Speaker 2: a better price and more of a discount on the
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  Speaker 2: fifth year option because he's like a Tier two fifty
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  Speaker 2: year option. Forget what year that this started. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: the fifth year option is different for based on what
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  Speaker 2: you are accomplished. So I think if he was like
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  Speaker 2: a four time pro bowler, it would be a lot
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  Speaker 2: more expensive.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking of four time pro bowler, he's not quite there yet.
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  Speaker 1: But Zach Bond was all over the place. I mean
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  Speaker 1: that got lost in the sauce about what he did.
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  Speaker 1: I mean had the interception early in the game, but
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  Speaker 1: he was all over the place in that first half.
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  Speaker 1: He was like a one man wrecking early in that
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  Speaker 1: first half of the game that you know, that gets
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  Speaker 1: lost to the sauce because of what ended up happening
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  Speaker 1: in the game.
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  Speaker 2: Man, tell me about him, because yesterday's game is what
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  Speaker 2: sports writers like to call the control all delete games
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  Speaker 2: where have like eighty percent of what you're written ready
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  Speaker 2: to go so that you can file it right before uh,
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  Speaker 2: right at the right as a time expired. Man, my
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  Speaker 2: score is ready. But the way that game went, I
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  Speaker 2: kept hitting control. I wrote up a big thing at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the first quarter, before the game was
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  Speaker 2: you know, out of reach or anything where I was gonna,
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  Speaker 2: you know, write a couple of paragraphs about and Zack
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  Speaker 2: Pawn and the idea that I think you know, I
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  Speaker 2: think some people are waiting for him to like kind
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  Speaker 2: of come back to earth or the coach to turn
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  Speaker 2: back into a pumpkin for him because of his success
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  Speaker 2: was just so fast and unexpected. But each week it's like,
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  Speaker 2: you just see these great plays that he makes and
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  Speaker 2: the consistency. Now, I mean, he's got to he's gotta
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  Speaker 2: were part of the letdown in the run defense, which
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  Speaker 2: I have to spend you a little bit more on
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  Speaker 2: tape and see what happened there. But overall, he's been
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  Speaker 2: playing at a fantastic level.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was awesome yesterday. Man, there's so many things
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  Speaker 1: in this game. The special team's aspect of it too,
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  Speaker 1: you know, these messy kicks, and that was a big
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  Speaker 1: factor in the game because one of the problems the
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  Speaker 1: Eagles offense had was they kept having terrible field position.
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  Speaker 2: They did, and that's part of that sort of I
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  Speaker 2: think conservative approach that they were taking. You know, like, man,
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  Speaker 2: everybody hates seeing when you run the ball on third
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  Speaker 2: and seventeen or third and fifteen, but that's kind of
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  Speaker 2: what you do in those situations when you're backed up
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  Speaker 2: in your own end zone because of bad field position,
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  Speaker 2: you're just trying to get out of there, and you
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  Speaker 2: know they were trying to get Parkley to get him
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  Speaker 2: like a even if it wasn't one of the big runs.
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  Speaker 2: Just give me like a twelve to fifteen yard or
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  Speaker 2: sequon right and let me get closer to the middle
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  Speaker 2: field where I can then get my receivers out and comfortable.
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  Speaker 2: They seem very uncomfortable being backed up in their own
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  Speaker 2: end zone and not wanting to make the same mistake
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  Speaker 2: I guess similar to the way Matthew Stafford made on
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  Speaker 2: his opening possession, but it certainly changed the way they
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  Speaker 2: went about their business. Now. The kickoffs, right, so the
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  Speaker 2: kicker for the Rams is one of these kickers. You know,
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  Speaker 2: there's the whole kickoff format to do with the dynamic kick.
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  Speaker 2: So kickers have been trying to do this thing called
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  Speaker 2: a knuckleball kick where they kick with less spin and
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  Speaker 2: so it's kind of floats, right. It's like trying to
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  Speaker 2: hit a change up and this time you're trying to
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  Speaker 2: catch a ball that's not spinning the way you normally spin.
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  Speaker 2: So I can understand one mishap, right until you're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: because you can't practice again sit unless your kicker does it.
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  Speaker 2: But five is just rap. I mean that is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: Those guys should be embarrassed by how bad they were
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  Speaker 2: and how detrimental to the offensive field position they put
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  Speaker 2: their team in. I mean, it's this is not rocket science.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: I know I've never been there and been out there
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  Speaker 2: and done it, but I guarantee you the coaches are
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: saying the same thing that I'm like, come on, like
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: one or two, you know, blips. But five, that's a
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  Speaker 2: little ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was perplexing of what was going on yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of the kicks were I mean, Bigsby
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: had a problem, Metchi had two problems. I mean it
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: was every kick they could not feel cleanly and that
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: kept putting them behind the eight ball there. You know
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: there was man, there's like all these things just start
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: keep coming back to you. The one handed catch he
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: talked about by AJ, but the other one on third
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  Speaker 1: down where he catches the wall one on one and
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: then he just shoves his way through the defender there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess one of the questions I have
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: moving forward. You saw what AJ did and DeVante you know,
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: kind of had his game where he just you know,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: the safety valve sometimes sure handed, although we did have
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: a drop that he probably should have caught. Is there
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: any concern about Barkley and and trying to get him
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: going in the role that he'll have in this offense,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: or do you start to shift to a more brown
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Smith centric offense.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: Well, that was something I didn't have to delete from
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: my Philly Voice observation story. He's still up there on
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Philly Voice dot com. Is that I feel like watching
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: Saquon a little bit yesterday, especially in the second half,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: that maybe he's pressing a little bit because I thought
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: he was not always following the blocks. I thought that
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: he was trying to maneuver his way a little bad time,
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: And I feel like he's running like a little bit,
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: like he's getting frustrated, which is understandable because he's you know,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: Takuon Barkley had this great year vote a number one player,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: and he really has been and okay, he's not been bad.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: He's just been well yesterday with bad, but he's been
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: the pedestrian running back so far, and that's not Tai Kwon.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Barkway's clearly defenses were doing some things as a line
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: of scrimmage. A lot of athletic movement, line games, twist stunts,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: just trying to make sure that they can get off
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: blocks a little easier, and then if he does get
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: past the first line, that they can still chase him down.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: And they're doing some good things. And you're right because
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: of that, theoretically you should be able to open up
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: the offense a little more. But the Eagles are also
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: seeing ton like of two deep coverages, like cover two,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: inverted cover two, you know, defensive designed to really like
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: keep the stuff in front of you. So I don't
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: know that the Saque Barkley struggles right now are going
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: to make them just all of a sudden be able
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: to throw the ball over the top a lot. But
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I think there is a lot of space in the
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: middle of the field. And I just want to make
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: this clear because sometimes we talk about Hurts's reluctance to
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: throw the ball in the middle of the field. His
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: reluctance is to throw the ball into tight windows. But
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: there were some really good opportunities yesterday, whether it was
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: a one on one or it's like a deep gig
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: to DeVante or meshroouts. So there are guys who are
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: open in the middle of the field that he's more
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: than happy with throwing the ball to as long as
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: he sees it. Sometimes he misses it, but when he
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: sees it he will pull the trigger.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Well, the touchdown to Goddard, I mean thirty three already
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: ripped it down the middle of the field wide open.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: Certainly good example really, and then you know the sixteen
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: yard of Devonte on third down was a good one.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: The one you'd mentioned that Aj dropped right. That was
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: an under center play action, which is very rare that
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: egals go under center and then run play action pass
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: off of it. I thought that after watching it, that
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: hurts just in the thorne a tick earlier because he
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: allowed Quinton Lake to kind of close quickly and then
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: hit Aj as Aj was trying to catch it. Now,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: still a ball AJ normally catches, but throwing a little
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: bit earlier, I think he has a chance to maybe
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: even wiggle out before and Lake can hit him.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Last thing I want to ask pass rush Hunt Smith,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: Zidarius Zarias Smith, Nolan Smith, the pass rush, what did
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: you think you know about their ability to pray? You
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: mentioned that Stafford missed some throws with the perception of
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: a pass rush, but was there enough pass rush.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: It's I think the easy answer right now is no,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: there was not. And I'm not saying that's an incorrect assessment,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: but what I am saying I'll have to go back
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: and look. But if you were to say what's the
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: best thing about the Rams offense yesterday, you would say
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: it's what protected well, I mean more more so, how
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: they moved the chains. They ran the ball extremely well.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I was gonna and they and they ran the ball well.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: We talked about this earlier. Quorum average almost seven yards
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: to carry on. You know, Williams had a good game
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: as well. They just kept getting chunks the yards.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: You know what's cool. I wrote last week a story
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: on Philly Voyce. I'm really plugging my stuff today, but
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I do a weekly column called Know Your Enemy and
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: uh a little Regigo's Machine reference. But it's a it's
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: a little it's a story about what to watch for
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: the other team that's not obvious. And I wrote a
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: whole thing about how Blake Orham has started to slowly
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: get integrated into the Rams offense. And I showed a
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: few plays where they use him, and he's got a
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: little bit more explosion. I think like a little bit
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: more juice than Hian Williams. They're both like neither of
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: them are both high class athletes, are world class athletes.
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: But so when I see that happen and you know,
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: you saw him break off some good runs and like, yeah,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: it felt validated. But my point of my point of
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: bring that up was you have to be in a
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: pass rush situation for your pass rushers to really go
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: to work. And the way the rams are moving the
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: ball on the ground, they didn't, I don't. I have
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: to go look. I don't know how many third and
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: like five and longer that they faced throughout the game,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: and when when they did, I do think it was
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: more Stafford missing than Zadarius Smith or jailex Count or
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: anybody else really putting pressure on him. So to your yeah,
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think the pass rush was great,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: but I really think it's also harder when a team
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: is running the ball down your throat that way to
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: really be going to you off on a quarterback.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: All right, good stuff, by the way, Rage against the Machine.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I made a Rage against the Machine reference on my
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Instagram Friday night. I had a beer called East of
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the Sun and the music I used for it was
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: People of the Sun. Like all right, Jeff Boscher is
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: back on Wednesday. We'll do a motioner mail bag with
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: him on Wednesday as well, So get your questions in
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: on the textboard at Mike Gill Show, Jeff Boscher from
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Philly Voice, and Inside the Birds dot com. The Inside
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: of the Birds podcast is out on all podcasting platforms,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: recapping the Eagles win over the Rams, a wild game
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: that people will be remembering by the way you talked
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: about the miracle at the Meadowlands earlier. They had the
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: same uniform combination white jerseys.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Oh we have green pants. Well maybe they should not
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: wear that anymore, just to save everybody. The adjita I'm sussing.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Their winning record and the other uniforms is pretty good too,
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: and without all the drama.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: The last time, yes, they wore like fifteen years ago,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: is the last time they wore that combination. All right,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: moch we'll talk to you Wednesday.
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: Man, all right, man, thank you,