Latest / Arroe Collins Like It's Live / Badd Grammmar On YouTube From Co-Creator Matthew Medney Book Clubs Have A New Home
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- 0:00Speaker 1: I'm guilty. I'm one of those podcast listeners. Except when
- 0:03Speaker 1: I go looking for a podcast, I want to be
- 0:05Speaker 1: able to find it. I'll read about it on Google
- 0:08Speaker 1: and then I go searching for it on iHeart or
- 0:10Speaker 1: Spotify and I can't find that Rob low Interview. I
- 0:13Speaker 1: can't find something Mark merindid I can't find it. So
- 0:17Speaker 1: as a podcaster, it was my goal to create something
- 0:20Speaker 1: that makes it so much easier for you to take
- 0:23Speaker 1: what you found out and find it. Aero dot net,
- 0:27Speaker 1: a r r oe dot net, It's twenty different podcasts
- 0:32Speaker 1: for you to explore. Hey, good afternoon, Matt. How are
- 0:34Speaker 1: you doing today?
- 0:37Speaker 2: I'm doing well, dude.
- 0:39Speaker 1: This is such a blessing to share a conversation with
- 0:42Speaker 1: the co creator of the program, because I mean that
- 0:44Speaker 1: means that you were there right from the very beginning,
- 0:46Speaker 1: and you're helping to grow something here that's going to
- 0:49Speaker 1: become the conversation I'm trying.
- 0:52Speaker 2: That's the plans.
- 0:56Speaker 1: Now, were you Were you part of a group that
- 0:59Speaker 1: actually created the book clubs and things? Because where did
- 1:02Speaker 1: this idea pop up from? Because it's so original and
- 1:05Speaker 1: it's very it's very attractive in the way that you
- 1:08Speaker 1: can't just walk away. You're sitting there just watching it
- 1:11Speaker 1: and going, oh my god.
- 1:14Speaker 2: Oh my yeah. Well, I very much appreciate all of that.
- 1:18Speaker 2: That is music to my ears.
- 1:19Speaker 3: I've been a book maker and publisher for the better
- 1:23Speaker 3: part of the last decade, and I've made books with
- 1:28Speaker 3: Daggie the Rapper, Floyd Mayweather, the Boxers, the NFL, and
- 1:34Speaker 3: a number of other places. And I've been recently an
- 1:41Speaker 3: independent publisher distributed by McMillan Books.
- 1:45Speaker 2: And as we were.
- 1:48Speaker 3: For putting together a marketing plan for this year back
- 1:52Speaker 3: in February, we realized that marketing in book publishing was
- 1:56Speaker 3: antiquated and was kind of a black box. And I
- 2:02Speaker 3: come from the music business about twelve fifteen years ago,
- 2:05Speaker 3: and it's all about community. It's all about finding ways
- 2:09Speaker 3: to make people laugh and have a feeling that.
- 2:13Speaker 2: They want to return to.
- 2:15Speaker 3: And my partner, Bella, and I just had a radical
- 2:19Speaker 3: idea where we were going to make a TV show
- 2:21Speaker 3: for YouTube that was the Office He Meets a book Club.
- 2:25Speaker 2: And that we would.
- 2:28Speaker 3: Find a way to make people laugh, teach them about
- 2:33Speaker 3: a book, and get them books.
- 2:34Speaker 2: Into being like, oh my god, I got to read
- 2:36Speaker 2: that now, yeh.
- 2:37Speaker 3: And I was sort of like the three the three
- 2:39Speaker 3: prong approach that we had for finding a way to
- 2:46Speaker 3: pre an attractive audience, and that that was sort of
- 2:48Speaker 3: the infinitis of it.
- 2:50Speaker 1: See. I love the idea that you're doing this, Matt.
- 2:52Speaker 1: And the reason why is because I've been blessed with
- 2:54Speaker 1: the idea and the opportunity to share a lot of
- 2:57Speaker 1: conversations with these published authors. They have a life, they
- 3:00Speaker 1: have they have a personality, They've got challenges just like us.
- 3:04Speaker 1: And for you guys to bring this up like this
- 3:06Speaker 1: and to really bring it out there for people to
- 3:08Speaker 1: discover them, this is this is a real This is
- 3:10Speaker 1: a gold mine for them because they haven't had this
- 3:13Speaker 1: kind of attention before and because of people like yourself, Matt.
- 3:16Speaker 1: I mean, my god, you're opening up a new door
- 3:19Speaker 1: for conversation.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Uh.
- 3:23Speaker 3: It really a smile on my face, man, to hear
- 3:27Speaker 3: you say to me.
- 3:28Speaker 2: All of the reasons that we made.
- 3:32Speaker 3: This, uh, this show is that there's a.
- 3:37Speaker 2: Full you know, you know, I made a lot of
- 3:39Speaker 2: comic books in my life. I also need to see you.
- 3:41Speaker 3: Heavy Metal Magazine the science fiction publication for a number
- 3:46Speaker 3: of years, and.
- 3:49Speaker 2: You know, I always said, when you go to Comic Con.
- 3:52Speaker 3: There's about six hundred thousand people that go to Comic
- 3:57Speaker 3: Con from Wednesday to Sunday. There's not even attraction of
- 4:01Speaker 3: that that go to comic book shops on.
- 4:03Speaker 2: A Wednesday to pick up a book. There is such a.
- 4:10Speaker 3: Pool of people who love these things that aren't in
- 4:15Speaker 3: the main sort of marketables late that that that people
- 4:23Speaker 3: think about when they're trying to promote this stuff. And
- 4:27Speaker 3: we thought that creating a YouTube show would really galganize
- 4:30Speaker 3: a younger generation who lives online to be like, you
- 4:34Speaker 3: know what, I want to try that too, because I
- 4:36Speaker 3: don't think everybody buys books for the reason to read
- 4:40Speaker 3: it right away. Sometimes they buy it because it's an
- 4:42Speaker 3: identity piece, it's it. Sometimes they buy it because the
- 4:45Speaker 3: person recommended it.
- 4:47Speaker 2: To them, and eventually they might go to read it.
- 4:49Speaker 2: But how do we get.
- 4:51Speaker 3: That that thought process, that that that notion of being
- 4:57Speaker 3: something that they identify with?
- 4:59Speaker 2: Right?
- 4:59Speaker 3: So what's a free more including point of view has
- 5:02Speaker 3: done better than any other brand ever, it's.
- 5:03Speaker 2: What Apple does best.
- 5:05Speaker 3: That's why Apple has basically no end of their TechBook
- 5:09Speaker 3: on their TV shows, because the shows are just a
- 5:13Speaker 3: manifestation of what it needs to own an apple thought
- 5:16Speaker 3: ut to you.
- 5:17Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what's really interesting about this, Matt, is
- 5:20Speaker 1: the fact that with these authors and things is that
- 5:23Speaker 1: they understand that connection. But in having conversations with them
- 5:27Speaker 1: and in watching this show, it to me it's still
- 5:30Speaker 1: that conversation with that viewer at home that has their
- 5:33Speaker 1: own books and writings underneath their bed and in their
- 5:36Speaker 1: attic and they don't want to release them. And these
- 5:38Speaker 1: authors and people like yourself are going to get them
- 5:41Speaker 1: to release what the next great novel is going to be.
- 5:44Speaker 1: So I see the opposite, I mean, the other side
- 5:46Speaker 1: of this in the way of going, do you know
- 5:48Speaker 1: what you're going to be doing with people? You're going
- 5:50Speaker 1: to be freeing them from their hell inside their bedrooms
- 5:54Speaker 1: because they don't know what to do with their writing
- 5:56Speaker 1: and because now they want to be on the YouTube channel,
- 5:59Speaker 1: they want to be the one that's being talked about.
- 6:01Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean.
- 6:03Speaker 3: One hundred percent that it's funny you have that point
- 6:07Speaker 3: of view, because we I have a saying that I'd
- 6:11Speaker 3: say that if the publisher, a record label or a
- 6:15Speaker 3: film studio, that is that they are artists first, writer first, musicians,
- 6:20Speaker 3: for they're actually not because The only way to be writer,
- 6:25Speaker 3: artist or musician first is to be publisher, record label,
- 6:29Speaker 3: or film studio first, because most creators are not marketers.
- 6:33Speaker 3: Most creators are these beautiful souls that pap into a
- 6:37Speaker 3: zeitgeist of things. And I've been blessed myself to have
- 6:41Speaker 3: a PAUSEI business brain, and you know, I have some
- 6:46Speaker 3: decent ideas from books every now and then, but most
- 6:48Speaker 3: people can't be both. And our whole point is, let's
- 6:53Speaker 3: build the communities where it doesn't matter if you're the
- 6:56Speaker 3: seventeen year old kid in high school that wrote this
- 6:58Speaker 3: amazing manuscript or if you're James Patterson. We have a
- 7:02Speaker 3: community that wants to read the books we're putting out
- 7:06Speaker 3: fear regarding of your name. And that's really what it
- 7:08Speaker 3: means to be artists first, is to be able to
- 7:11Speaker 3: have a communion of people that will experience your art
- 7:13Speaker 3: regardless of who you are. And that's what we're hoping
- 7:16Speaker 3: Bagrammar becomes Wow.
- 7:17Speaker 1: And it's just so perfectly right for this because if
- 7:20Speaker 1: you do the research on podcasting, it wasn't comedians that
- 7:23Speaker 1: created it, It wasn't musicians like they did with MySpace.
- 7:26Speaker 1: It was the authors that created podcasting, and then everybody
- 7:30Speaker 1: else jumped onto that ship because they opened up the door.
- 7:33Speaker 1: So to see that you're going to be taking authors
- 7:35Speaker 1: to YouTube like this, of course you are. I'm not shocked.
- 7:38Speaker 1: I'm going you bet, this is the next level of play.
- 7:44Speaker 3: I love, I love how much you see and I
- 7:47Speaker 3: you know, and I've been a big believer of that.
- 7:52Speaker 3: The regular TV, you know, whether it's network or streaming
- 7:58Speaker 3: or you know, as kind of lost their way in
- 8:03Speaker 3: some regards. You know, obviously they're still incredible partners in
- 8:07Speaker 3: a lot of ways, but you know, the the reality
- 8:11Speaker 3: is almost every show that we all love at a
- 8:15Speaker 3: horrible season one, yes, a lot, and it's it's it's
- 8:20Speaker 3: not it's not conducive to television to have a situation
- 8:29Speaker 3: where they're telling creators you need to perform in the
- 8:31Speaker 3: first season or recap you because that in that situation
- 8:35Speaker 3: it might make more sense to go get outside financing
- 8:39Speaker 3: and go make it yourself. Because what made network and
- 8:42Speaker 3: streaming so lucrative is that creators were able to take
- 8:46Speaker 3: another of an idea and develop it with them.
- 8:50Speaker 2: And if that's disappearing, then.
- 8:52Speaker 3: YouTube removes the executive point of view and lets you
- 8:58Speaker 3: and the audience choose.
- 9:00Speaker 1: If you like it, please do not move. Matthew Nedney
- 9:03Speaker 1: is coming back from Bad Grammar. The show on YouTube
- 9:09Speaker 1: is Bad Grammar B A D D G R A
- 9:13Speaker 1: M M M A R. Who we are back with,
- 9:17Speaker 1: Matthew Medney. What do you do with with Because there's
- 9:20Speaker 1: a big craze going on right now inside the world,
- 9:23Speaker 1: and that and that is is that it seems like
- 9:25Speaker 1: everybody is doing their own version of a graphic novel.
- 9:28Speaker 1: You brought up comic Con. I'm sitting there going, oh
- 9:30Speaker 1: my god, they're headed to him, they are headed into
- 9:32Speaker 1: your world. Is that going to be what the focus
- 9:34Speaker 1: is going to be on? Is on comic con things
- 9:36Speaker 1: or is it? Or are you going to open it
- 9:38Speaker 1: up to other YA authors as well as dramatic detective
- 9:42Speaker 1: you know, true crime novelists who are sitting and they're
- 9:45Speaker 1: so serious. But I laugh at these books because they
- 9:47Speaker 1: make it so serious.
- 9:51Speaker 2: It's a great question.
- 9:52Speaker 3: We definitely will be opening it up too all thoughts
- 9:57Speaker 3: of books, and not just Comic Coon. But we have
- 10:00Speaker 3: a big friends Insects Comicon because of my history in
- 10:04Speaker 3: the graphic novel space. But we have a number for
- 10:07Speaker 3: those books too, and all types of genres. We're really
- 10:11Speaker 3: excited about all of that. And yeah, I think it's
- 10:15Speaker 3: not just the comic.
- 10:16Speaker 2: Cons of it of the world.
- 10:18Speaker 3: It's really any book in any author that we can
- 10:21Speaker 3: have a great story. We want to, you know, sort
- 10:23Speaker 3: of put them through the Bad Grammar machine and see
- 10:26Speaker 3: if we can create that audience.
- 10:28Speaker 1: So, now, everybody that's featured on Bad Grammar, how do
- 10:31Speaker 1: you handle what's happening to the world of literature right now?
- 10:34Speaker 1: In the way that it seems like we finally started
- 10:37Speaker 1: listening to Mark Twain who said, you've got to write
- 10:40Speaker 1: in your own language, your own style. Well, that's exactly
- 10:43Speaker 1: what we're doing. On My punctuation sucks, but it's the
- 10:47Speaker 1: way that I write, It's the way that I talk.
- 10:49Speaker 1: How are you guys dealing with that on your side
- 10:51Speaker 1: of that camera on YouTube?
- 10:55Speaker 2: I mean, we're definitely trying to make it our own voice. Yeah,
- 10:59Speaker 2: for sure.
- 10:59Speaker 3: You know, we're not folding to, you know, any sort
- 11:05Speaker 3: of time constraints.
- 11:06Speaker 2: Of a regular sitcom.
- 11:08Speaker 3: We try to do our episodes anywhere between thirteen and
- 11:10Speaker 3: twenty minutes.
- 11:11Speaker 2: Nice is really our our point of view, and it's
- 11:17Speaker 2: not you know, I.
- 11:19Speaker 3: Would say it definitely does not follow the network language rules.
- 11:25Speaker 3: We try not to curse too much, you know, but
- 11:27Speaker 3: we also try to be authentic, so it's not about
- 11:31Speaker 3: you know. The way that we write the shows is
- 11:34Speaker 3: that we provide everything for the actors and people in
- 11:42Speaker 3: the episode to be able to improve. So we create
- 11:46Speaker 3: their characters, we give they read the books, we give
- 11:49Speaker 3: them cheat sheets of the books, but the actual interactions
- 11:53Speaker 3: is very much unscrewed, and we did that purposely so
- 11:56Speaker 3: that we could capture real moments and real like eights
- 12:02Speaker 3: on the books. So everything is scripted from the point
- 12:05Speaker 3: of view that they have a they have a sense
- 12:10Speaker 3: of what they're looking to.
- 12:11Speaker 2: Say and how they want to say.
- 12:12Speaker 3: It's and the and the beats and bobs about the book,
- 12:16Speaker 3: but they're really just having a conversation about the book
- 12:19Speaker 3: that we're recording that just like a normal book club.
- 12:22Speaker 1: What really caught my attention was how authenticate you guys
- 12:25Speaker 1: are when it comes to sharing it. You're not picking
- 12:27Speaker 1: out favorite parts that the author wanted you to talk about.
- 12:29Speaker 1: You're you're you're picking out your own, your own interpretation
- 12:32Speaker 1: of certain areas, and then you're having that god dang
- 12:35Speaker 1: honest conversation with each other, which yeah, can go in
- 12:38Speaker 1: any direction. But I thought that's what book clubs are
- 12:40Speaker 1: all about. Because if I go over here by my neighbors,
- 12:42Speaker 1: we start talking about a book, I'm telling you it's
- 12:44Speaker 1: going to be just like your dang show. You were
- 12:46Speaker 1: just the first one to put it on YouTube.
- 12:51Speaker 3: I love it, you know. So I would say our
- 12:56Speaker 3: point of view are guiding light. I would say, is
- 12:59Speaker 3: kind of what you just said. It's learnt about promoting
- 13:02Speaker 3: the book. It's about It's our guideline is would this
- 13:06Speaker 3: episode get somebody to want to read it? And would
- 13:09Speaker 3: it get somebody who's read it to laugh? Those are
- 13:12Speaker 3: the only two. Those are the only two metrics that
- 13:15Speaker 3: we think about when we're kind of when we're filming
- 13:18Speaker 3: and editing.
- 13:19Speaker 2: Are those two things.
- 13:20Speaker 3: It's never about covering specific hits about a book. You're
- 13:23Speaker 3: never going to cover the entire ethos of a book
- 13:27Speaker 3: in twenty minutes or less. That's just not a reality.
- 13:31Speaker 3: So the point of view is it doesn't make you.
- 13:34Speaker 2: Want to read it.
- 13:35Speaker 3: If they're read it, and if you've read it, are
- 13:37Speaker 3: there a couple of moments and there where you're like, yeah,
- 13:39Speaker 3: that's hilarious because of this character's interaction with that character.
- 13:42Speaker 3: As we can nail those two things that I think
- 13:44Speaker 3: we're doing our job.
- 13:46Speaker 1: God, I would love to be in that editing room
- 13:48Speaker 1: because I know you guys are getting stuff that you're
- 13:50Speaker 1: sitting there going do we take a chance?
- 13:51Speaker 2: No?
- 13:52Speaker 1: Come on, no do it? I mean, give me, give
- 13:55Speaker 1: me three minutes to think about it. Nope, not doing it.
- 13:58Speaker 1: I mean, I mean it's got to be that wing
- 13:59Speaker 1: because I mean, when you have that many people in
- 14:01Speaker 1: the room that have wild imaginations like they do, they're
- 14:04Speaker 1: gonna be saying stuff that only kids would say.
- 14:08Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, one hundred percent.
- 14:11Speaker 3: And you know, I think the other thing that's really
- 14:14Speaker 3: I mean, I'm definitely more of the one in that room.
- 14:16Speaker 3: I'm like, let's do it, and my partner, Bella, my
- 14:20Speaker 3: partner Bella is telling me absolutely not in that situation.
- 14:27Speaker 3: Because the other thing that's really magical about it is
- 14:29Speaker 3: that we filmed the whole show on iPhone thirteens. So
- 14:33Speaker 3: Bella and her cinematographer was able to build a rig
- 14:36Speaker 3: for us so where we use the black Magic Camera
- 14:40Speaker 3: app and we have five iPhones and we do the
- 14:44Speaker 3: Multican and we set it up, and then our editing
- 14:47Speaker 3: team led by a guy named Michael Morello and his
- 14:51Speaker 3: colorists and everyone are just able to because we filmed
- 14:54Speaker 3: through the black magic that.
- 14:56Speaker 2: Make it look like the highest quality filming.
- 14:59Speaker 3: It keeps the per episode boss for something that's feasible
- 15:03Speaker 3: for us, and the tolering and the visuals of it
- 15:07Speaker 3: something that could go toe to toe with something on CBS.
- 15:10Speaker 3: And I think that is just a testament to the
- 15:13Speaker 3: gen Z and the twenty twenty six of it all
- 15:16Speaker 3: and finding ways to make things work.
- 15:19Speaker 1: See, and that's exactly where everybody is because everybody is
- 15:23Speaker 1: trying to steal that thunder from YouTube right now, and
- 15:25Speaker 1: you guys bring in your original programming there. But one
- 15:28Speaker 1: of the main connections, and I want listeners to understand
- 15:31Speaker 1: this is the fact that you've got five completely different
- 15:34Speaker 1: people on the show and it's called bad grammar. And
- 15:38Speaker 1: the thing about it is the one thing they have
- 15:39Speaker 1: in common is their opinion. Oh my god, that is hot,
- 15:44Speaker 1: because so many times everybody comes in there with an agenda.
- 15:47Speaker 1: Uh huh. You give them the opportunity to use their opinion,
- 15:51Speaker 1: use that muscle exactly well.
- 15:55Speaker 3: I think so many people today are just so I
- 15:59Speaker 3: aid to have that sort of conversation, whether it's political
- 16:05Speaker 3: division or eco chambers, the ability to have that really
- 16:11Speaker 3: interesting opposing conversations with people that you then will go
- 16:16Speaker 3: have a beer with or a coffee, whatever your advice is,
- 16:20Speaker 3: and not like hate them till the end of time.
- 16:22Speaker 3: I think it's really foreign to a lot of people today,
- 16:25Speaker 3: and we're just trying to remind people that that's how
- 16:27Speaker 3: most of civilized civilization had not in this weird time
- 16:33Speaker 3: now we're in where as you're a Republican, you can't
- 16:36Speaker 3: talk to the Democrat, if you're this, you can't talk
- 16:38Speaker 3: to that, if you're whatever, whatever. It's like, no, no, no,
- 16:41Speaker 3: we all have interesting opinion, we all have our view
- 16:44Speaker 3: of the world, and we should all throw those views
- 16:46Speaker 3: against each other and have a really civilized, fun conversation,
- 16:50Speaker 3: because the dest ideas happen when everybody gives a little
- 16:54Speaker 3: and finds a new answer in the middle, not when
- 16:57Speaker 3: this person's answer is correct or that perfont answer correct.
- 17:00Speaker 2: When both of you are both of.
- 17:02Speaker 3: You are wrong, and whatever you guys chose in the
- 17:04Speaker 3: middle is the one that I always say, biggest travesty
- 17:09Speaker 3: and all of American histored is that Thomas Jefferson and
- 17:14Speaker 3: John Adams had a ruthlessly diabolical third election in American history,
- 17:20Speaker 3: and Thomas Sheffton changed one of one of Alexander Hamilton's
- 17:24Speaker 3: most coveted rules about the presidency, which was that the
- 17:29Speaker 3: second place contestant would become the vice president.
- 17:33Speaker 2: Thomas Shefton was so was so.
- 17:38Speaker 3: Appalled by how John Adams had run that election that
- 17:42Speaker 3: he changed that. Just imagine if half the country would
- 17:45Speaker 3: feel like a kind of one in an election versus
- 17:49Speaker 3: completely lost, how much more together we would be. And
- 17:52Speaker 3: I think that I'm hoping, in a very funny microcosm way,
- 17:55Speaker 3: that we're bringing a little bit of that back into
- 17:57Speaker 3: the world of like we don't have to agree and
- 17:59Speaker 3: everything to be friends.
- 18:00Speaker 1: Yeah, So anywhere along the way, maybe two or three
- 18:05Speaker 1: episodes a season, maybe you'll put a book in there
- 18:08Speaker 1: that did not go through the editing process, because I
- 18:11Speaker 1: love it when writers screw up. I want to see
- 18:13Speaker 1: the rawnest. I want to feel that real emotion as
- 18:17Speaker 1: it was put into that paragraph. Dude.
- 18:20Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm I'm all right.
- 18:23Speaker 3: I mean we have you know, we have a couple
- 18:25Speaker 3: of books that are on our slate that are internal
- 18:27Speaker 3: books for us that we feel that way about that
- 18:30Speaker 3: our stream of consciousness.
- 18:31Speaker 2: Yes, because at the end.
- 18:33Speaker 3: Because you know, the way that we picked the books
- 18:36Speaker 3: for Bad then is every it's one for us and
- 18:39Speaker 3: one for the zeitgets. So we picked one book that's
- 18:42Speaker 3: our book that we're publishing, that we control with an author,
- 18:45Speaker 3: and then it's one book that we discovered that we
- 18:47Speaker 3: like that we thought was cool or interesting, and they
- 18:50Speaker 3: bounce back and forth every other episode.
- 18:52Speaker 2: Love it.
- 18:53Speaker 1: So now now our pr people reaching out to you.
- 18:55Speaker 1: How do these authors can they even reach out to
- 18:57Speaker 1: you or is it something that you guys handpicked on your.
- 19:00Speaker 3: Way for the ones that are not our books, Yeah, exactly, Yeah,
- 19:06Speaker 3: because they're going to be knocking on your door.
- 19:08Speaker 1: You know, they're going to be knocking on your door, Matt.
- 19:10Speaker 1: They they want the attention.
- 19:13Speaker 3: So for the first sixteen episodes, we've picked eight books
- 19:18Speaker 3: that we really liked, and as you alluded to, we've
- 19:22Speaker 3: already started to get people calling us about books to
- 19:26Speaker 3: put in moving forward from there, so you know the
- 19:29Speaker 3: first eight, you know, we did a fourth wing last week.
- 19:34Speaker 3: Next week is going to be absolute Batman. Then we're
- 19:37Speaker 3: going to be Ministry of Time and then and then
- 19:41Speaker 3: we're going to do projects hel Mary Wow. And then
- 19:48Speaker 3: we're and then we're going to do Stunding fall or Carrol,
- 19:52Speaker 3: and then we are going.
- 19:53Speaker 2: To do Red Rising Wow.
- 19:55Speaker 3: And those are the first six non dung Nert books
- 19:59Speaker 3: that we're doing.
- 20:01Speaker 1: See, you're right on target. You're right on target. Where
- 20:04Speaker 1: can people go to find out more about you? And
- 20:07Speaker 1: number two? How can we stay in touch? So we
- 20:09Speaker 1: can I can just promote and talk about you guys
- 20:12Speaker 1: when it comes to books and stuff, because I would
- 20:14Speaker 1: love to say, well, you know, as seen on Bad Grammar,
- 20:17Speaker 1: this is what they said on Bad Grammar on YouTube.
- 20:19Speaker 1: You gotta go look at what they said. And now
- 20:22Speaker 1: we've got the author, let's talk about what they said
- 20:24Speaker 1: on Bad Grammar.
- 20:27Speaker 3: I love it so on all social media is it's
- 20:29Speaker 3: at bad Grammar with two d's and three m's.
- 20:37Speaker 2: And then.
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- 21:01Speaker 1: Dude, you got to come back to this show anytime
- 21:03Speaker 1: in the future. The door is always always going to
- 21:06Speaker 1: be open for you.
- 21:08Speaker 2: I very much appreciate that, my friend.
- 21:11Speaker 1: Well, say hello to George for me, and thank him
- 21:13Speaker 1: so much for putting up with me for all these weeks.
- 21:15Speaker 1: But it finally happened, and we are just at the
- 21:17Speaker 1: first step of a brand new beginning of many conversations.
- 21:22Speaker 2: I'm here for it.
- 21:23Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
- 21:24Speaker 2: Okay, thank you so much, man, I have a great one.