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Episode 397 - But Can It Fly? · TechtalkRadio

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The following program is produced by the Tech Talk Radio Network. Right it is
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a Colin Macria. Whose line is it anyway you're listening to tech talk Radio.
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I don't know how it works. It's all magical stuff to me.
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Welcome to another episode of tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Seanda
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Weird, and I'm Justin Lemme. You know, last week on the show,
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we talked quite a bit about Tesla, and we had a lot of
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people that listened on the show because of that. We were talking about,
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you know, if you thought about getting an EV, you thought about getting
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a Tesla, here's some things to think about, and justin you were kind
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of on point this past week. It's it's the media has been all over
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it. What's kind of going on with Tesla? Elon himself said it best.
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I think it was a couple of days ago. He was in an
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interview talking about it, basically saying that with Tesla, you know, the
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price changes have to happen with the market demand. And you know, Tesla
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has been going through some troubles in the past few months, and so you
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know, they've got a huge stock and like like I mentionedlast week, and
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they were trying to get rid of this stock, so they were lowering prices.
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But on top of that, what happened this last week they introduced a
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new version of the full self driving that was available to all the cars.
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And I did touch upon that. They gave everybody a free month of full
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self driving. And this is the one you tested out for that drive,
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right, Yeah, yes, exactly, yes, and you know, it
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definitely was improved, but it's not perfect. But the thing is is people
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were saying, you know, there's no way I'm going to pay fifteen thousand
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dollars for this on top of the car, like you know, it's just
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it's not ready for it. Well, as of this couple days ago,
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Tesla just announced that they just lowered the price of the full self driving package
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from fifteen thousand dollars down to eight thousand dollars, right, so, I
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mean almost cut it in half because they're trying to get more people to buy
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in on it. Personally, I still don't buy it. I would not
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pay five thousand or eight thousand dollars for that because although it is improved,
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it is still far from being something that I would trust the lives of myself
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and my family with because I've seen it firsthand that the mistakes that it makes,
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but it is an improvement. I personally don't think that the full self
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driving capability of this car is worth eight thousand. I would say if I
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were to put a number on it, I'd say maybe an extra five thousand.
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Yeah. Maybe. But then there's the people that actually paid the fifteen
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thousand dollars back from you know, twenty sixteen, seventeen, eighteen, nineteen,
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twenty twenty one, twenty two, twenty three. They paid all this
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money for this this thing that they were promised that is still not out,
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and now there's there's rumors that there's there's a class action lawsuit gonna happen to
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say, wait, we paid all this money and now you're gonna lower the
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price and you're still haven't delivered upon what you told us you were going to
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deliver it. They just keep lowering prices. I mean, the Model S
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their top of the line, they lowered it by five thousand dollars, The
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Model Why, they lowered it by another ten thousand dollars, the Model three,
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they lowered it by seven thousand dollars. They just keep lowering prices because
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I think you know, they're obviously trying to get rid of stock, but
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they're also trying to compete with other EV manufacturers. Would you say, justin
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are they still competing with Forward in the non EV category? Do they still
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look at them as competition? I mean, it's a vehicle, Well,
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it is a vehicle, but if you think about it, almost every auto
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manufacturer now has an EV. I mean, Mercedes, Volvo, Volkslagen,
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Ford, Cadillac, almost everybody. Now what I'm looking forward to, and
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not a lot has been talked about it, you know, recently, but
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I'm kind of looking forward to this new Toyota because Toyota said they're going to
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change the game when it comes to hydrogen powered cars, and they've proven it
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that the hydrogen car that they have is you know, the best thing out
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there because first off, it doesn't have to have it doesn't have to have
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a huge battery pack, right, so it's not going to be super heavy.
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It doesn't require gasoline. It requires hydrogen, which is super cheap and
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super abundant. The byproduct of it is literally water, like that's what it
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produces. Water. After our show aired, we started to get reports of
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the cyber truck having issues at a recall due to breaking and acceleration. Actually,
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oh yeah, getting stuck. That's where the pedal getting stuck. So
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it's kind of interesting. Justin you mentioned the price changes there at Tesla.
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There's also been changes that Elon Musk has implemented, or at least I heard
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this past week at X where what he wanted to do for any new profile
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created, say, somebody comes on to Twitter late, he figures everybody should
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be on there that they wanted to charge them, and the reason being is
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he feels that that would eliminate bots. So asign from Elon and X.
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What do you think about this TikTok thing? You know, some listeners that
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listen to the show may have never experienced TikTok or they may have seen their
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you know, their grandkids on TikTok. I thought it was kind of cool.
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Is this really our Should we really be concerned that TikTok is going to
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have secrets? Or is it really kind of silly? No? I think
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absolutely, really, I think there's one hundred percent concern about it. And
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TikTok can sit there and say all they want. They can sit there and
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lie to our faces, which is what they're doing. They're like, oh,
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yeah, we're not collecting any data on UNI users. It is proven.
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There have been people that have done deep dives into the application and found
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the information that it is collecting and sending back to byte Dance. So they're
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lying to us, they're lying to our faces. So yeah, absolutely,
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I think there's and not only just the information they collect on us per se.
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The bigger concern is the Chinese government being able to influence the content that
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is on TikTok, the content that users will see, especially during an election
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year. This is what I'm really concerned about because if that is true,
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which I'm pretty sure it is, that the Chinese government will say, hey,
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push this narrative, push this agenda, get rid of all this stuff
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on the platform, and instead push this stuff so people see it more.
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Yeah, I absolutely think it is. But the whole fact about selling TikTok
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to a US company, you you you're basically just transferring it from one devil
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to another. You know, it's going to go to a big tech firm
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in America, and big tech firms in America are horrible as well. The
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devil you know or the devil you don't. I mean It's already been proven
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that this has happened. Right. You had the whole Facebook issue, you
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know, the whatever the firm was that handle all the Facebook data. Oh
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yeah yeah, a Cambridge Analytica or something like that. Yeah. Yeah,
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it's already happened, And to say it's not happening is a ridiculous notion.
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All of our data is already out there. This somebody's prom somebody in Zoom
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has access to this recording. There's been story after story of Hey, this
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user or these people were able it might be a collection of this. Five
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people might be able to see your data. Well that's I have more people
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than what you told us earlier, So they're all looking at it. Everything
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you do on the internet is seen. You just have to accept that.
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I mean, think, think about this. You know they talk about Telegram
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or what'sapp and they say it's end to end encryption, right right? Who
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generates those keys? Who generates the keys to encrypt it? The company that
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owns the platform generates the keys. You think that they can't use your key
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to get in and see your stuff? Man, I got a bridge in
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Arizona to sell you. What wasn't it for sale? Once? Yeah?
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I know, right? Or what is that? The right? Is that
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the right? Quote a bridge? And are no ocean front property? That's
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what? Yeah, that works out a lot better. Yeh yeah, yeah,
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yeah that do yeah? My bad? All right, So Slick is
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trying to get in. Let's go ahead and bring Slick in. Uh.
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And he's been he's been pretty busy doing all kinds of stuff and it does
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take him usually a little while to propagate into our our cast. Slick,
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are you there? He's smuted? God change settings and plug and stuff and
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turn things on. And you know, I thought late, I thought should
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I ignore it or should I go ahead and bring him in? We thought
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we'll bring him in because it won't delay us too much. Slick, how
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you doing? All right? How's that microphone right there? That's how many
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microphones do you have? Uh? Well, I guess I used a Oh
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I have a road r Ode audio audio USB audio device right, And so
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I installed it and install the software, and the software installs multiple options for
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microphone and speaker, and I have to choose the correct one. But it
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just sounds silly. Well, we're glad you got it. Now. We've
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been talking about privacy, and we talked about TikTok and byte edance and uh
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what it when it comes to your personal privacy, you know what is protected
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with that? Though, there was a story not too long ago about Dji,
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the drone manufacturer, possibly getting some legislation against the company that you wouldn't
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be able to fly a drone made by Dji, and it kind of made
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a lot of his concern because I think, well, I own one.
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I know, Uh, Sean, I think you own own one and Justin
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owns one. What uh whatever happened with that. We haven't heard anything else
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on that yet. Yeah, I haven't seen anything on it. I know
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that there was a bill in legislation, uh to basically ban any Chinese manufactured
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drones from flying. And their concern was, you have to register it,
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you have to have the app sending out your location when you're flying, so
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that you could be identified by the FAA and the you know, some other
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things like that. They're concerned that now China's going to know where all these
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drones are all the time, have access to the video, have access to
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the data, and are just using that to aggregate this massive amount of data
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about the US in general. Right, So these lawmakers basically said, there's
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like it's called the Anti China Own Law or something just anti China Act.
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Yeah yeah, Anti China Act. Yeah. So it's you know, I
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don't know what they think they're gonna do by trying to stop the influx of
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cheap Chinese goods, but there's no I don't know. Here's an idea.
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I'm silly, Yeah, here's an idea. What is, uh, just
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stop doing trade with China. I don't know. It's amazing when you look
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at so many products that that are knockoffs, Like you get a product that's
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really good, like Belkan for example. Belcan has a product that I love.
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You put your camera, your phone on it and it follows you and
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has you know, used AI to track your your face and all that.
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I love it. But there are so many knockoffs of this device. I've
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had people that have sent me emails going, hey, what do you think
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of this? And I'm like, they look at it and go, well,
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it's fifty dollars cheaper, but what are you giving up when you purchase
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this? Well, I mean it is that whole website uh uh uh Timo,
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Timo, I mean it's it's basically all just Chinese knockoffs. I mean,
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not necessarily just China, but just like you know, East Asia.
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I mean, it's it's it's all knockoffs. But the thing is, it's
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not even just knockoffs. I mean, most of our products that we buy
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are made in China. I mean your iPhones, for instance, made in
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China. You know, and I know, I know, I'm looking at
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Indonesia as a as a new manufacturing partner, Okay, I get that,
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But like, yeah, Vietnam, Taiwan, which still technically China, I
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guess, I don't know, But most of the products we buy are made
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in China. I mean, it's just the way it is. It's the
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cheap labor, and it's the cost of doing business. But you know,
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I for one, personally believe and this is not the views of tech talk
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Radio as a hole, but I believe that. Yeah, I think there's
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something going on in the background. I think China is using its ability,
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its power as a manufacturing powerhouse to do this kind of stuff, collect data
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on Americans. Now, what they're gonna do with that data, who knows.
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I think the most likely answer is they're gonna try to influence the way
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we think and the way we do things around here. What's to stop a
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company from saying, hey, we're here in a good old US of a
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we're gonna we're gonna build it. They they go ahead and they put together
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a product, They get data, and they sell it to the to the
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foreign governments. I mean, how do we how do we know? You
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know? That's the thing. And I think most consumers, honestly, you
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look at the consumer backlash on the TikTok TikTok use, I think most consumers
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are like, I don't care. Most consumers mean to buy a television,
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I don't care it wasn't made in the US. I just did I get
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a good price on it? Does it have the ability for me to stream
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you know, my favorite networks onto it, like like a Roku TV or
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whatnot? Do people more than happy to be the battery in the matrix?
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I hear what you're saying. Yeah, do people really? So? There's
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actually I'm looking this up. I just actually googled it. Can companies sell
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user data to a foreign government? Apparently the only government that companies in the
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US is from what I can see here, and this is just with a
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quick Google foo, the only government that companies in the US can sell their
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data to is the US government. The FEDS are cracking down on companies that
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will sell their data to foreign governments without consent, but the US government can
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basically just seize your data. Ah, all right, okay, yeah again
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the devil you know or the devil you don't. All right, Well,
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we were kind of tracking towards DJI. They made an announcement this week and
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you know, aside from the drone stuff that Seoan had sent me and I
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thought, oh man, this is kind of cool. Sean, what were
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you able to find out about this? So they also launched a new drone,
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the Evada two. Right, well, their FPV drone, the Nevada.
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They launched a second version of that which has extended life batter you know,
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extended flight time. It's designed to do some more gesture controls, so
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you can use gesture controls instead of using the sticks. It's pretty cool.
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Check that out. It's the Evada two. But they, out of nowhere,
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out of left field, they dropped two solar generators. Huh. Well,
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so and I asked Sean, I said, do they fly? They
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do not fly. So they announced two lithium lithium iron phosphate battery generators,
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LiPo Lifo E whatever, the new lithium iron oxide batteries. They're rated for
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higher just like more discharges below eighty percent and the whole deal. But they
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launched two versions, a DJI Power five hundred and a DGI Power one thousand.
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Basically those are for the watt hours, right, five hundred twelve watt
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hours or one twenty four watt hours, So it if you're a boondocker,
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or if you're a prepper, or if you just want to be able to
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power your devices on the go, right, these are pretty legit, and
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they're priced pretty comparably to other stuff in the market. So if you're looking
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at these the thousand waters, you're looking to spend about seven hundred bucks for
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the thousand wade hour and three hundred and seventy nine for the five hundred whe
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hour, which is actually cheaper than most of the other ones like rock Pals
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or Jackerie or some of the other ones that are out there that I've looked
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into buying. So, and the benefit to these is that you can tie
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them in to solar panels to charge them on the go, So you could
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put up to eight hundred watts of solar panels in parallel and charge these.
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So this would be good if you're like a remote video shoot and you're using
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drugs and the drones you only get a certain amount of flight time. It's
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not like they charge themselves. They don't carry big solar panels on them.
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I don't know if that's going to be coming. But either way you have
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to land them and recharge or put a new battery in. Well, you
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have to find a way to charge that that. Actually, this could be
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good for that enthusiast that's doing a really tough shoot that's in the middle of
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nowhere that has no access to power. Yeah, and it gives you.
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So it's got an inverter on it also, so it will it will take
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convert the DC power into AC power, so you can charge literally any device
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you could think of. Obviously, don't try and do a microwave, even
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though they say you can do a microwave if you really want to do.
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Don't know why you would. But five hundred and twelve wat hour one can
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have up to three hundred wats of solar panel input. The one thousand wat
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hour one can have up to eight hundred watts of max solar power input.
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It's got USBC, it's got USB A, it's got your normal Edison AC
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plugs. It's good. No surprise that they dropped this. I was not
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expecting this from DJI to have their own standalone power banks. Right. Most
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people were buying third parties, right. They were buying Jackerie, they were
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buying rock Pals, they were buying other nigh brands, or they were even
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buying gas powered inverters like from Honda or Breader or anything like that. So
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they're just claiming all this fast charging and if you're connected to the grid power
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it could be at seventy percent in like twenty five minutes or something like that.
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Wow, it's all super fast charging using this newer lithium iron phosphate BAT
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chemistry. I know that Anchor has been working on a lot of the solar
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anchor. Anchor makes so many great products and like you look at they got
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so many different skews for whatever you want to do, they can do it.
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It was a Sean or Andy. I don't remember which one of you
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mentioned that, but you know this whole dooms You know people that are doomsday
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preppers whatever, Right, It's funny that you mentioned that, because I was
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just gonna say that. You know, since this this Amazon Prime Fallout TV
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show came out, it has actually started to increase the amount of people that
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are looking to prep for dooms Day? Are you kidding me? Real?
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People? Are? People are going out. I've been reading some Reddit threads.
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I'm trying to I'm trying to frantically find these Reddit threads I was on
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earlier, But people talking about buying these bunkers, buying these doomsday prep kits,
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the meal kits, things like that, because this TV show is like
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scaring them, which I mean, okay, it probably should to a certain
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extent, you know, because in the you know, I don't know if
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you've ever watched the Fallout TV show. If you haven't, it is truly
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amazing. It is based off the video game. Not going to go into
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it anymore. We talked about it last week, but it takes place and
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like it starts to take place in twenty seventy seven, which is just like
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you know that, you know, the year sixty forty fifty years ago from
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now. Yeah, to see you have to remember I came from the time
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when in element Tree school we would have drills and these drill cover that can
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cover, and I thought, that's gonna do anything for you exactly. I
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thought, all I'm going to do is be in a pill bug position when
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that big thing goes off. And that's I mean. We used to get
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the air raid sirens that would go I've lived in the honey To Beach and
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I'm sure they did them here, but they would go off, you know.
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I want to say it was it once a month on Friday, on
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a Friday, and they were the most terrifying things you could hear. Because
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you see some of this footage from these like what's going on in Ukraine and
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and everywhere else, and that's what you hear. It's that. That's the
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best part is that Fall on TV show takes place in Los Angeles. Oh
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my gosh, but I could. I couldn't. It didn't give me anything
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to do even want to watch the first watch the first episode. I'll take
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you for I know I'm going watch. I have to watch it a lot.
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I need to know how to get into it. So the game,
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the game was good. I've not watched the TV show. I'm excited for
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it, but I want to be for a minute, right, right,
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there is caution to be prepared. You should be prepared, and they recommend
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you be prepared for seventy two hours without food and water. That's the minimum,
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right, seventy seventy two hours for each person in your household. Right,
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So that for me, it'd be seventy two hours for four people,
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right right. That's the kind of it's either going to be resolved or you're
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going to be in a much worse state after seventy two hours, right,
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So sure, seventy two hours without power, without water, without food.
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That's kind of the FEMA standard for what would be a good like a good
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initial thing, like are you talking about just to go to Costco and maybe
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just buy like two of those like you know, big huge packs of water,
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you know, like the little bottled waters or something, just like two
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or three of them, like one one of those per person or something kind
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of thing with some canned food or whatever. They so they make Costco actually
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it recommends they actually sell individual five buckets seventy two hour kids per person.
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You can buy a bucket with a Wow water the bucket eighty four bucks or
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something like that. No, it's like two hundred or something dollars more.
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If you can, you can scale them up right, you can actually buy
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a whole palette of them. It's it's crazy. If I see those in
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Costco, I'm going to start to get scared. Keep a case of Costco
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water available, right, if it's just being prepared for seventy two hours off
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food or water, that's really kind of I don't really know how much more
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to say about that. I was looking for an excuse to buy a generator.
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There you go, Yeah, can you charge off your car this one?
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But if so, the DJI won the DJI Power Bank can charge off
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your car, right, you can run the AC, but if there's no
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power, you're not gonna get gas for your generator. So it's I think
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Andy was mentioning my house. You can't do that with the Tesla model why,
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but you can do it with the cyber truck and also with other actual
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like I think the gmc denali or whatever actually can charge your house or whatever
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power your house. Well you think, okay, So we got to think
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about this and the point that Sean is making. Let's try and remember back
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to two thousand. Was it two thousand when it was announced that we got
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locked down. Yeah. Do you remember how people responded by getting the toilet
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paper, getting the picure? You're talking about twenty twenty, not two thousand.
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Oh okay, yeah, I'm always off twenty. I was like,
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why two k we didn't get locked down? So, yeah, twenty twenty
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for COVID and then to two thousand, But for twenty twenty, we saw
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how people responded to that. Yeah, it was they were doing the same
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thing. The water, They were stocking up on everything. They even tried
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to close down all the liquor stores in the Denver or Colorado for like two
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hours. They were like, you know what, We're gonna close down all
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the liquor stores. Everybody made a mad dash to the liquor stores and there
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were lines outside the liquor stores. And then the government was like, okay,
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yeah that was a mistake. Yeah, sorry, We're we're gonna keep
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the liquor stores open. Can I make it? Can I make a recommendation
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too? Shut tell me tell me if this means to day't keep physical media.
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If you're looking so you don't go stir crazy, keep some physical media
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available because everything is digital. And if the grid has got an issue,
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well you may still have a hard time playing it, but at least you'll
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have something local. That's why I've ripped all my blue rays and DVDs.
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I still have them, right, yeah, but I have them available,
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so I can. You know, I have a generator in my house,
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right so if we lose power, I just go fire my generator and I
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have Can your generator actually do your whole house? Or no, I've got
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so. I had an electrician come in and put in separate circuits that tie
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in so that when I plug in, the generator fired up runs the fridge,
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the freezer, and the heat the blower for a heat if we need
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it, and it powers like two circuits in our house, so I could
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run like my TV or you know that's soundually pretty cool. All right,
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we got to take a break. We come back. A listener question from
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Lori who listens to us online out in Kentucky. So well you will share
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that with you coming up. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean de Weird,
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I'm Slick, and I'm justin. Find us on the web tech talk radio
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dot com. We'll be right back now back to tech talk Radio. So
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we have a listener question to bring us back from the break LORI listens to
24:14
us online. Thank you Lori, and she is the guardian for a young
24:18
man that is fourteen. Her question was that this young man is autistic and
24:21
tends to go through tablets. This recent was an iPad that he threw.
24:26
Is there a safe tablets to prevent them from being destroyed? Ow? Wow?
24:30
I'm assuming she wants something that can be is durable. Yeah, could
24:33
be protected. Hell yeah, there you go if you fling, because if
24:40
you fling a an iPad, it's not going to survive it. Have there.
24:45
They're good, but they're not built for being tossed. I mean,
24:48
there are a few cases out there that do have like like a glass,
24:52
like a protective on top of the screen. It obviously decreases the sensitivity of
24:57
the touch screen whatever, but it does prevent a little bit of that.
25:03
I mean, I don't know. It depends on how hard this person might
25:06
be abusing the tablet. Law enforcement in the military they use laptops that are
25:12
tough books. A rugged yeah, rugged tough books. There's one of the
25:18
manufacturers another one that actually might be a pretty good choice for it because they
25:23
still have stylists that can work with them. You know. You still use
25:26
a mouse with them or keyboard. But at the age of fourteen, that
25:30
might be just a little too much. I don't know if it may feel
25:34
to this young man that it's like it's going too far back. But think
25:40
about the Amazon Fire eight I think has bumpers on them, and if you've
25:45
seen them, I just looked it up. It's the Amazon Fire HD eight
25:49
kids pro Right, it's got a bumper, it's got protection and they even
25:57
have a two year If it breaks, we replace free. That's the one
26:00
cool thing about the Amazon Fire Yes, is that protection plan? Yeah?
26:04
So, and they're no extra expensive. So though no, no, no,
26:14
no no extra cost. It just comes with it. If you buy
26:15
the kid's version, it comes with a two year no questions asked. You
26:19
break, it will replace it, Okay. So, I mean it's not
26:23
an iPad, so it's going to be limited to what you could do with
26:26
the Amazon ecosystem. Right, there's ways around that. Yeah, you know,
26:32
there's ways around that, and there's it's just you know, if it's
26:34
you don't want to buy an eight hundred dollars device every six months. Yeah,
26:40
they have an Android app store though, don't they? They do,
26:42
But it's still it's still well newtered. I guess maybe you could say because
26:48
they don't allow a lot of the native Android apps because Amazon. But again,
26:52
there's ways around it. I had an iPad for years that was great,
26:56
and I dropped it and it was in a case, but I dropped
26:59
it in such a way that I was in the rocks out in front of
27:03
the radio station, and one of the rocks the point tip was up and
27:06
that's all they needed, you know, it just got to hit it the
27:07
right way. You just got to Yeah, you got to hit on that
27:10
corner of that glass or whatever, because a lot of times that that's that's
27:12
the weakest point is the corners. Right. But if if this one might
27:18
work for him, maybe going for that Amazon fire HD ten with the kid
27:23
proofing on it, with the bumpers might be a way to go. Yeah,
27:26
there's the HD. It's the all new fire HG ten kids Pro.
27:32
All right, one hundred and eighty nine dollars. It's not bad. One
27:34
of the things I wanted to mention this week is Microsoft. You know,
27:38
they're still experiencing and playing around with the AI, and I think we're going
27:45
to see the next if when we see and if and when we see a
27:48
Windows twelve, we're going to see AI throughout the whole thing. And I
27:52
don't know about you guys, if you're on Facebook, if you try and
27:53
do a search now made as AI will jump in and it is so frustrating
28:00
to try and really hit it's harder to look for stuff now using this thing
28:04
that is just interruptive just because they say, well we got AI because you
28:08
can't find what you're looking for, you know what you want to look for.
28:11
But Microsoft is now testing video generation and if you seen this Vasa one,
28:18
it's Vasa dash one justin I don't know what your thoughts of this,
28:22
but you take a single photo and it can actually replicate the photo to movements.
28:29
And one of the big ones this week was the Mona Lisa rap.
28:32
So you can do Google search for that Mona Lisa rap. It looks like
28:37
Mona Lisa is actually doing a rap tune. AI is still just within its
28:41
infancy, I mean honestly, I mean, you know, I use AI
28:44
every single day. I use CHATGBT exclusively for a lot of things. I
28:48
use it for my trivia nights. I use it to generate trivia questions and
28:52
I'm getting extremely fed up because it keeps giving me the same questions over and
28:56
over and over, even though I've told it do not repeat these same questions.
29:00
And it's like, okay, here's the same question. Yeah. And
29:04
also with programming, I mean they were touting that chat GPT was great for
29:10
coding. Yes, it did help me create a PowerShell script to onboard new
29:15
users, but it had multiple errors with it that I could not figure out,
29:22
and it was generating those errors. It was telling me to do this,
29:25
and I'm like, hey, this doesn't work. Why, well,
29:26
you know, blah blah blah. And it's like, no, dude,
29:29
stop saying the same thing. Here's what fixed it. I'll tell you what
29:32
fixed it. A sixteen year old kid, right, No, I'm not
29:37
lying. My intern. My intern at work is a sixteen year old boy.
29:41
And he I was like, you know what you said. You're interested
29:44
in programming, right, yeah, come take a look at the script.
29:47
What's wrong with this? Why why is this not working? Well, what's
29:48
the air? Blah blah blah. Okay, thirty seconds later, there's your
29:52
problem right there? Like what, well, there's your problem? Sure enough,
29:55
I adjusted it, bam, ran the script everything worked just fine.
29:56
I'm like, so then I go and tell Chad Beauty like, hey,
30:00
chat, ept, here's the problem and here's how he fixed it. Great.
30:03
Wait that's it. Like that's all you're gonna say. That's that's it.
30:06
Like it's not. It's not the greatest. And especially when it comes
30:08
to video AI. I mean, there are some really really good ones out
30:12
there, like really super paid, like you have to pay or just they're
30:15
not publicly accessible. But the public versions of these AI video generators no,
30:22
well the one from Adobe, because the Adobe's really pushing that AI is a
30:26
big part of their their suite products. They've got you know, Photoshop and
30:30
they're calling it generative AI. And Sean, I think you've dabbled a little
30:34
in this. Have you looked at it? I tried, and then I
30:38
just you guys know me, I'm anti AI, right. I gave up
30:44
because I was like, show me this picture with some nord lights, yeah,
30:48
or show me a plane flying and it was just like it just pasted
30:49
a plane on top of like a scene. It was pretty bad. I'm
30:52
sure if I played with it and I could find tuned in stuff, but
30:56
for for what I do and for my creative brand, like the AI just
31:00
takes the human out of it. Right. I want to do all this
31:03
stuff. I want to generate this content with my own my own creative consciousness,
31:08
and I don't want to just type in tell me this thing and have
31:14
it brought me. Like I'm the anti AI one out of all this,
31:17
right, I don't know. I mean, I'm kind of equal. I'm
31:19
willing to give it a chance. I'll give it like three shots. And
31:22
I think I've given all of them, all of the most popular ones out
31:26
there right now, the three biggies a chance, and they blew it.
31:29
I mean they didn't even come close to the subject I was talking about or
31:33
wanted to address it. And I'm like, I don't have time for this.
31:36
Like you said, justin it's quicker for me to type it into the
31:38
search one. I agree with both of what you guys are saying. I
31:41
totally agree. But here's the caveat to that. The thing about AI is
31:45
you have to learn how to speak to it. Yeah, It's like it's
31:51
like we're saying, Okay, by the way, the Internet is now going
31:55
to be completely in Mandarin Chinese. You can't just go expect that you're just
32:00
going to go to you know, the new version of Google and type in
32:05
something in some random like rudimentary Mandarin Chinese and get what you're looking for.
32:09
No, you have to understand Mandarin Chinese in order to get what you're looking
32:14
for, right, So that's an example. You have to understand how to
32:16
talk to the AI, and I have had to learn that the hard way
32:21
and I'm getting better at it. But it is truly a programming language really,
32:27
and that's that's where the big part of it is is that people are
32:31
going to learn how to work with AI and how to speak to an AI
32:37
to make it do what you wanted to do. Those are the jobs that
32:42
people are talking about where you're going to get paid half a million dollars a
32:45
year to do. This is because you understand the ins and outs of how
32:51
to speak to an AI. Well, somebody who's coming out of maybe changing
32:55
your job and they go into a possible employer, and the employer once you'd
32:59
have computer skills, if they want you to have computer skills and skills working
33:02
with chat, GPT or any of the other AIS that are that are out
33:07
there. If you have that, you've got the advantage there because you unders
33:12
you understand how that works, so that could benefit you, even if you
33:15
like like some of us here, don't like AI and think it's completely intrusive
33:20
and and never hit makes the mark. Having those skills though, and learning
33:23
how as you say Justin to talk to AI is going to be a big
33:27
benefit. I agree with Justin because and the reason here's why, Because I
33:31
believe based over the many years I have learned how to speak to search engines,
33:36
how to get the information because I'm able to find things other people they
33:39
said, well, how did you do that? But I don't know what
33:44
it is And it's probably just me and my brain and the search window.
33:46
We just know how to talk to each other, you know, I've I've
33:49
learned and and you know it's it's just me but the A. But and
33:52
I get what you're saying about the A. But if it's gonna make too
33:55
many mistakes, I don't have time for those mistakes. Well okay, well,
33:59
okay, mistakes, all right, fine mistakes. How many times have
34:02
you searched for something on Google and it's given you the wrong result and I've
34:06
gone to a different search engine. Yeah, I've done that too, So
34:08
you go to a different AI, it's the same thing. This is just
34:12
history repeating itself, except this time history is a lot more powerful. Sean
34:15
was kind of chuckling near a second ago, too, and it looked like
34:20
you were laughing. I know, I'm just agreeing with Slake. Like you
34:22
guys, I can google things way faster than the three of you. Like
34:27
you guys are always like, oh, Sean's got it pulled up. Yep.
34:29
Yeah, you guys always say Sean's the one to google it, Shawn's
34:31
the one to find out all the facts. That is true. But like
34:35
I said, if you want to do something simple, where if I want
34:37
to, I want to write a quick Python script to make Hello World?
34:43
Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, I can google that. I'm sure
34:45
I can find a website that will tell me that. Or I could just
34:49
go to chattyboutine and say, hey, write me a Python script for Hello
34:51
World, damn instantly done. Do you think, though, that those listening
34:55
are getting fatigued when it comes to AI, that maybe are not even remotely
35:01
interested in that, that that have no desire because it's just being shoved into
35:07
our face. Even banks we use AI to coordinate with you it's like we
35:13
don't care. Oh, I don't think multiple AI. Yeah, there,
35:17
I don't think multiple I don't think most people know how much AI already influences
35:22
their lives, but they don't even know it. They think it's a sales
35:25
tool. Though part of it is, you know, we we use AI
35:29
to pick the programming you would love. I mean you think about it.
35:32
The the your user data, do your tracking of of your Internet search history,
35:37
or what you're watching on your smart TV, you know smart TV's.
35:40
They gather your data, they gather what channel you're watching, what your volume
35:45
level is, what your brightness setting is. Do you think a human actually
35:49
reviews that data. No, an AI does, and the AI sorts out
35:52
what's important and what's not and then sells that data. So AI has been
35:58
around for a long time, it's just now become mainstream. Yeah, video
36:00
AI also can be kind of scary. But Adobe I wanted to mention this.
36:07
Their premiere pro program is going to be using that generative AI. So
36:10
like, say you have the video I saw for it. They got a
36:14
box of diamonds and it's a movie scene and the guy walks up and he
36:17
grabs the box, but there's not enough diamonds in there, so you use
36:21
the generative AI to fill that and make those diamonds shiny and more diamonds.
36:27
You can even stretch it to generate diamonds like that. You could do right.
36:30
You can even stretch a scene. You need the scene to go just
36:34
a little bit longer, but you don't have enough footage. The AI will
36:37
take that scene and stretch it an extra five seconds or ten seconds. So
36:42
if you're a video editor, you have benefits from that. Now, if
36:45
you are somebody that wants to experience AI and you haven't gone on to Open
36:51
Ai to do it, there's a new website for you. It's talkai dot
36:54
info. So if you go to t a l k ai dot oh,
37:00
you can actually have a conversation with a chatbot without having to sign up or
37:05
log in. Just as a way, they want people to experience this and
37:08
see what they think about it. And you may look at it. Somebody
37:12
listening may look at it go this is dumb, or they might go,
37:15
whoa, this is kind of new worlds. I can kind of see how
37:17
this could work for me, so I might want to check that out.
37:22
This literally is open AI's chat GPT but it is the free version of it,
37:27
Yes, exactly. So all right, coming up, there is a
37:30
we Like entertainment and there is a show that is coming to southern Arizona.
37:35
You may have heard of them. They're called Yachtlee Crewe and they do a
37:40
slick shaking his head. I know you've heard as a radio DJ, you've
37:45
played yacht rock, right. Oh yeah, you think of Christopher Crofts,
37:49
you think of Kenny log and Michael McDonald, you know, some of the
37:52
great songs to be listening to while you were on the yacht. They took
37:57
the yacht rock theme and had some fun with it and called themselves yachtly Crue.
38:00
We're going to talk to a member of that how they use the Internet
38:04
to kind of promote some of the stuff they're doing. So we'll do with
38:07
that when we we'll get to talk to Philip from the band. Coming up
38:10
here on tech Talk Radio. I'm Andy Taylor, I'm Sean de Weird,
38:14
i am Slick, and I'm the AI version of Justin. Lemme hold you
38:17
right back. A little glitch there, see and that fact to tech Talk
38:24
Radio. Welcome back to tech Talk Radio. I gotta tell you we are
38:28
really excited about a band that is coming through Tucson. Again. That just
38:31
makes everybody smile because there's so much fun and it's always great to talk to
38:37
the people behind the band and we get the entertainment angle, but it's always
38:39
cool to find out maybe a little bit about how technology has helped the band
38:45
find its audience, and it certainly has in this case. The band is
38:49
called Yachtlee Crue and with us on the line is Philly Ocean, the lead
38:53
vocalist for Yachtlee Crue. That's the nation's number one yacht rock band. Philly,
38:59
good to talk to you man, Good morning, Thanks so much for
39:00
having me on the show. Yeah, we're stoked to come back to Tucson.
39:04
We love Tucson. May third at the wealso Tucson loves you guys too.
39:07
I mean, you don't know how many times that I've been somewhere somebody
39:12
says, hey, man, if you checked out Yachtlee Crue, they love
39:14
it because you just have so much fun. We have an easy job in
39:17
some regards because the music was so good and people love it so much.
39:22
That's like, you know that that really sets the stage. And then all
39:25
we have to do is deliver an amazing performance, which that's maybe in some
39:30
ways easier said than done, but we're up to the challenge. We love
39:34
what we do so much. It's absolutely that we have the most fun that
39:37
you could possibly imagine. All Right, So when you look at the band's
39:40
history, when did you guys get started? We started back in twenty seventeen
39:44
in southern California. We're playing anywhere we could, mostly local, small bars
39:49
and small music venues. Pretty immediately, it was obvious to us that the
39:53
audience was responding and people really liked what we were up to. We had
39:59
no idea how long or how far that would go. But you know,
40:04
here we are seven years in and it kind of feels like we're just getting
40:07
started. I mean, the audiences just keep getting bigger and bigger, the
40:09
venues get bigger, and we're able to play more places than we ever have
40:14
played ever. When I think of yat Rock, I think of Christopher Cross,
40:16
I think of Michael McDonald. You know, I got to think about
40:21
Toto too. Is that like the playlist? How is it kind of how
40:24
do you guys come up with that? You know, there's there's like at
40:28
least twenty of these songs that are just like the defining songs of the yacht
40:32
rock genre, right right, and a lot of those artists you just said
40:37
so in that like, you know, we have to play Africa. You
40:40
know, we have to play you make my dreams come true. You know,
40:45
we have to play ride like the wind Sailing, et cetera. You
40:47
know, there's the core songs, but it's an expansive genre as well,
40:52
and there's so much good music from this era. You know, the late
40:55
seventies, early eighties is soft rock vibe. Now you can run into some
41:00
skirmishes with people who are hardliners for what they think yacht rock is and is
41:07
not. But we we have a pretty i don't want to say liberal view
41:14
of it, but we have an inclusive view of it. We will try
41:16
things and we will ultimately let the crowd be the deciding factor, right you
41:22
know. And so like, for example, one song that is not considered
41:27
yacht rock, we just started doing and people are going crazy for. And
41:30
that's I'm still standing by Elton John. Oh yeah, even we even do
41:35
come sail Away by Sticks and and that song absolutely crushes and it's so right
41:40
for the for what we do and our look and the whole vibe of the
41:44
night. So it's not considered by some hardliners to be yacht rock. Guess
41:50
what it is. It is yat rock because people love it. You know.
41:52
That's that's the end of the day. Philip running to any of the
41:55
artists that have been behind some of these yacht rock bands, out of these
41:59
songs, writers or artists respond to the band when they see you and hear
42:02
you. Early on, we met Peter Beckett and Elliott Leurie, and we've
42:07
we've kind of heard through the grapevine that, like, we know Trev Lucather,
42:13
who is Steve Lucather from Toto's son. He's been to our shows,
42:17
you know, we know Michael McDonald's sister is a yachtley Crew fan. She's
42:22
come to a bunch of shows. He knows about us. I think it
42:24
was I think the whole yacht rock thing, especially because there's that like web
42:29
series out there that kind of makes fun of these people in some way.
42:32
I think it was met with some skepticism early on, but I think the
42:37
staying power of it and the you know, just the rabid fan base of
42:43
this music has has shown them that, like, you know, and maybe
42:46
it's got started a little bit ironically, but it's really out of a deep
42:52
love of this music and because the music is so good that it is persistent,
42:57
and so I think they've kind of come around a lot on it.
43:00
Honestly. Now, for those that have never been to Yacht Lee Cruise Show
43:04
and again, uh, the tour full steam ahead is gonna be hitting the
43:07
rialto theater May third, just around the corner. What will they actually see
43:10
when they come to see a show. It's more than just you guys up
43:14
playing yacht rock tunes. You have personas. Yeah. Yeah, Well we're
43:16
performers, you know, and we we love performing, we love putting on
43:21
a show. And so what I tell people is just think we are the
43:23
kiss of yacht rock. That is how we've been described in the papers.
43:30
You know, we put on a super high energy show. There's a lot
43:31
of production that goes into it. There's a lot of energy, and there's
43:36
a lot of crowd involvement, you know, and you'll see if you've never
43:38
heard of yacht rock, you've never been to a yacht crew show before.
43:42
When you walk in, you're gonna see hundreds of people wearing captain's hats.
43:45
I'm gonna see people dressed up like Holland Oates. You're gonna see people dress
43:49
up like Gilligan and the Skipper. Some somehow that fits. I don't know
43:52
exactly how, but I'm not gonna knock it out. Yacht right. People
43:55
get involved in that and it makes it so much fun. It makes it
44:00
whole experience. How has when you look at technology, how was how is
44:05
the internet? And how has social media kind of helped the band get the
44:08
word out there? You just played last last year you played your first international
44:13
show, right, yep, we played. We played on a cruise ship
44:15
actually going from Liverpool to Belfast and that was a that was a thirty six
44:20
hour journey where we literally flew over to the UK. We got off,
44:25
we got on a cruise ship, played a show that night, slept,
44:29
woke up, got off, drove to the Dublin airport and flew home.
44:32
It was insane. Wow, it was so fun too. I mean it
44:36
was really really cool to be able to do something like that. In terms
44:42
of your other question, yeah, I don't know that we would have found
44:45
our audience, our base without the Internet and social media specifically. I really
44:52
think that you know, for all of its evils. You know, we
44:58
found our audience on Facebook and instat you know, that's how we do the
45:02
majority of our marketing. And I really think that that empowered us to go
45:08
be And it's really hard to be a band. And I don't mean that
45:12
like, you know, I'm not trying to sound like a victim or I
45:15
don't need sympathy. I'm just saying that, you know, there's so much
45:19
coming at people all the time. To try and get your you know,
45:22
get people's eyeballs on what you're doing is really really tough. And social media
45:28
and the access that that has created to people is really amazing for people who
45:35
are you know, homegrown artists and that's what we do. We're blue collar
45:38
musicians. We just love doing what we do and this is all that we
45:43
do. So to be able to find an audience, I don't know that
45:45
it would have been possible at this level, at the very least as quickly
45:49
as it's been without the use of social media. And of course managing the
45:53
band actually comes from Andy Gould. This guy's got like a background rob Zombie
46:00
Guns and Roses Pantera. When you think about it, you think of metal
46:02
now he's got this yacht cru group with a great name. Yeah, And
46:07
you know it's funny because we Andy's you know, he's a part of the
46:09
Yotlet Crew family. He's he's really taken really good care of us and he
46:15
cares about what we do. And you know, we've talked him about that
46:19
because yeah, most of his career has been on, you know, a
46:21
hard rock, heavy metal side of things, and he goes, you know,
46:23
it does it's never been about being in that genre. That just happened
46:28
to be how he stumbled in his job as a manager is to identify good
46:34
music with potential, and how he's found Yachte Crue. He was actually seeing
46:40
some other artists across the street in Los Angeles at the Whiskey when we had
46:45
our residency at the Viper Room. Oh wow, and he didn't he didn't
46:50
much care for that artist. So he left and he walked out from the
46:52
Whiskey and he looked across the street and he saw a line of people wearing
46:57
Captain's hat around the block waiting to get into the Viper Room, and he's
47:00
like, what the hell is going on over here? It's not Charlie Waffles.
47:04
The street Yeah, he walked across the street and they were they were
47:07
they were like, Andy, I think rack capacity. We can't let you
47:10
any like you're letting me in. And he saw us and it really began,
47:15
you know, this relationship. He was like, there's something, there's
47:20
something here, and we're gon, we're gonna, We're gonna take it as
47:23
far as we can. That is so cool. Now, you've got a
47:27
an EP that's uh that's available called Seize the Day. When listeners purchased that,
47:31
whether at the show or online, what will they hear? That is
47:36
a It's an EP, so it's a six song EP. It is a
47:39
collection of some of our favorites. We're all also working on another album now,
47:45
but I'll stick with Sees the Day. It also has an original song
47:47
that we wrote that's called Sex on the Beach. We got to make a
47:51
music video with our good friend Mario Lopez, who's a Rabbit rockeicionado nice and
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it was a lot of fun. We really put our heart and soul to
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that first EP. You can also buy a limited edition vinyl of that EP
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on our website and it's pressed in flamingo pink and it's really really cool.
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That's awesome. Right now, the website and I want our listeners to check
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it out is Yachtlecrue dot com. You can keep in touch with the band,
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find out where they're going to be playing at and again maybe some more
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info on that upcoming album. Yachtlecrue dot com. Find you on Instagram,
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Facebook, and x and don't forget to check out the show on the third
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of next month. What do you like about coming to Tucson? Do you
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like the food? Honestly, the whole vibe of the town is amazing.
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I mean, the whole downtown area is so cool. The food is awesome
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in Tucson. I mean every time I'm there, I have an incredible meal,
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I meet awesome people, and every time we've come back to Tucson,
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the crowd just gets bigger and bigger, and the energy is amazing. And
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that's what I love more than anything, is when I get to perform in
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front of our crowd. That is just they're there for it, and that's
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how Tucson is. Yachtlee Crue again, thank you so much, Philip for
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coming on and talking with us. My pleasure. Thanks so much for having
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me. We'll see you in just a couple of weeks at the Realto Theater,
49:07
and again that show is May third at the Rialto Theater. Now standing
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by, we're gonna be checking in again with Slick Sean and justin some tricks
49:16
that HR may be pulling on you when it comes to digital security. That's
49:22
all on the way on tech Talk Radio. And now back to tech talk
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segments on New Who's thirteen. When somebody wants to get information from you for
50:02
sometimes nefarious reasons, whether they want to hack your bank account, they want
50:07
to get into something that you're protecting, uh, they'll use what's called phishing.
50:14
And you may have heard of that term phishing. It's not Andy and
50:17
Opie going out and going to the watering hole. No, it's actually trying
50:21
to get information. Now, Slick, you've had something recently been going on
50:25
that an IT department for somebody you work with. They're trying to get you.
50:30
Yeah, yeah, and so far they're owing to good. Now how
50:36
did you know that they were? It was a phishing attempt? Was it
50:37
a bad one? Well? It was? I am. I have in
50:44
all of my email accounts. I have all of my headers open, meaning
50:50
that as you get an email in everyone and you see who it's from,
50:52
you know, you say it's from Slick. Well I get to see more
50:55
than that. I get to see Slick, and then I get to see
50:58
the email address it came from, and the date and the time, and
51:02
maybe even more routing information below that, depending on which email service you use,
51:07
depends on how much you can expand on that right, and I will
51:09
open all of that stuff up because I want to know and if something looks
51:15
out of place, a date, even as strange as that may sound to
51:19
you, the date can be wrong and you go, wait a minute,
51:21
that's that's a weird, weird number there it's and even a name like it
51:25
comes from slick. Well you should be getting in general, you should be
51:28
getting slick at tech talk radio dot com. If you get it from slick
51:31
at anywhere else, a chance it's not me. Yeah. Now this is
51:37
a normal practice, isn't it. Yeah, the normal practice. And uh
51:40
and the city and uh city government has been doing it because uh locally and
51:45
I think you remember this, Andy, are our school district as well as
51:50
our city government were hacked. Yeah, and probably because somebody clicks up some
51:54
city should that click on. So the latest one that happened today to me
52:00
was it came into my government email address, used my legal name, you
52:05
know, my birthname, but then it said, uh, you have jury
52:08
duty that was the subject line. Really wow, would come to me that
52:15
way saying I have So I opened it up and took a look, and
52:17
I'm scrolling through and there's a link you click here to do all that.
52:22
So one of the things everyone you should always do, always do, always
52:27
do is hover over the links just so you can see what the web address
52:34
is. Because had it been maybe a dot gov or something like that,
52:37
maybe I would have looked more into it. But oh no, it started
52:40
out with a lot dot gov hyphen and then it showed something else, you
52:45
know, and like atmail at gmail dot com. Now justin you do this
52:51
as the IT director, Oh, I do this. I do this for
52:52
fun. Yeah. I actually send out phishing attempts for fun to my the
52:58
co workers because I'm the IT manager. We use a service through Ninjo Now
53:01
Ninjo n I n I n jio dot com is a great cybersecurity training platform.
53:07
They release monthly videos that are fun, engaging. They're four minutes long.
53:14
They teach you about cybersecurity, but they also give you the ability to
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send phishing emails. You have to. It's a lengthy setup process on the
53:22
IT side of it, but you can basically set those emails to be allowed
53:25
through your spam filters and things like that, so they have free access.
53:30
The one that I love to do, and I did it before is and
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I and it got almost everybody is I sent out an email with the subject
53:38
line, you know my company names new personal or no, I'm sorry,
53:44
new work from home policy, and that right there the keywords work from home.
53:50
Oh my god, we can work from home? Yeah, I want
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to know about this and they click on the link and bam, I got
53:54
them. Yeah and and and so yeah, so I am. I'm in
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everybody's heads and I get them all the time. As a matter of fact,
54:02
I'm actually about to do physical cybersecurity training and I have a new summer
54:08
intern that's going to be joining our company, and I'm actually gonna dress them
54:13
up as a Verizon technician. And here's the thing. I've got the fake
54:17
badge, I've got the vest, I've got the hard hat, I've got
54:20
the clipboard with the fake work order. I've got everything needed to fool somebody.
54:24
And I'm going to send this intern out to all of our sites because
54:29
we have multiple locations, and I'm going to tell them I want you to
54:31
get into our IT room because I've told them, I've told all of the
54:37
managers of all these sites, do not allow anybody into the IT room without
54:43
my explicit permission. First, I'm gonna send this person out with a thing
54:46
saying, uh, yeah, I'm from Verizon. I've got this work order
54:51
for a new Internet circuit. I got to get into your IT room.
54:53
And I'm just going to see who lets them in the IT room. Well,
54:57
because if they do then we're going to have a discussion. We gotta
55:00
talk more. We gotta talk more about this on the next show about you
55:04
know, the ways that you know that you're being fished or somebody is attempting,
55:07
So we'll do that coming up. Also, we'll tell you more about
55:10
a story that I read recently about smart watches and how they are really good
55:15
and I believe it now and I'll tell you why. But that's it for
55:19
this week's Tech Talk Radio. Thank you everybody for joining in. I'm Andy
55:22
Taylor, I'm Seonda Weird, I'm Slick, and I'm justin. Let me
55:25
once again find us on the internets tech talk radio dot com. Have yourselves
55:30
a great week. We'll see you