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Strictly Bias with Will Retherford: NFL Season Preview (2.17.2) · The Central Indiana Sports Report

• 0:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: You are listening to strictly bias with Will Ruffinson.
• 0:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Today's podcast will pre-use the NFL season.
• 0:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: And here you will.
• 0:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: Welcome to strictly biased with yours truly will rather for here at stage.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I believe we called this twenty for high-resolaburt and Andrew Nimpar.
• 0:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: A few moons ago, but I am joined today by an esteemed guest.
• 0:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, the bloodline of the central and the sports report.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: That would be Greg Mendel.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for joining me as co-host.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: Greg, I have a ton to say this evening, but first, what would you like to know?
• 1:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Here's my question, Will.
• 1:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 1:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's the most absurd prediction you're about to make?
• 1:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: My most absurd prediction is that the New England Patriots are going to be closer than winning the AFC East than having a top five draft pick in this next year's NFL draft.
• 1:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't say that's absurd except for that they're not anywhere near Buffalo.
• 1:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: The only way that happens is this Josh Allen is injured.
• 1:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I see this is where I think it's absurd.
• 1:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think the New England Patriots are going to make the playoffs.
• 1:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that there will be a game out.
• 1:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think it all comes out of the wire.
• 1:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think they're going to win twelve games currently as we speak right at this moment.
• 1:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm taking a moment right now.
• 1:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: At this very moment, the New England Patriots are favored in eleven of their seventeen games.
• 2:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Go look at their schedule and tell me it's it's hard.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: They play one of the easiest NFL schedules that I've seen based on what we think these teams are going to be.
• 2:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll do it with your favor.
• 2:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'll put it at ten and a half and I'll take the under and I challenge you to take the over.
• 2:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'll take the over.
• 2:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think variable.
• 2:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: You're going to do it.
• 2:24
  [SPEAKER_03]: It seems too young.
• 2:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Too many holes.
• 2:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: So what was not absurd is now absurd.
• 2:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: Is that what you're saying?
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
• 2:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 2:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 2:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Twelve wins is absurd.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 2:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 2:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: If you tell me the Patriots are going to sneak into the playoffs, I'm sure.
• 2:41
  [SPEAKER_01]: They've got a nice young quarterback who could turn a corner and make out too many holes.
• 2:46
  [SPEAKER_01]: You have a new coaching staff.
• 2:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't happen that fast usually.
• 2:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, we'll see what I want you to think about this.
• 2:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: The fun digs has been traded twice to turn young quarterbacks into stars and it's happened a third time with him being in.
• 3:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: New England.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I think just watch whatever Stefan Diggs does he becomes a diva in a prima donna but when the goings good the goings great and he seems to just be able to make quarterbacks to their best self.
• 3:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I am so happy you're counting on Stefan Diggs to get the Patriots over ten and a half games good luck with that one.
• 3:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not it's not stuff on the eggs.
• 3:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just have faith in my grave.
• 3:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that the titans firing him is one of the worst decisions that I have seen an NFL from office make in the last ten years.
• 3:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was just absolutely crazy what he did for this night.
• 3:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: They should be good.
• 3:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: They should have been signing him to an extension.
• 3:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely fired him.
• 3:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely all because the under didn't like that variable one control football operations and
• 3:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: So okay, well we'll go hire Joe Smell, Callahan from the Bengals and see if he can be an offensive whisper and you saw how that worked out last year.
• 3:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just think that you have faith in the people that you have.
• 4:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know the kind of personality and you saw the coach you was on the field and what he did.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: He took things that had no business.
• 4:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm back.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: To the number one seed in the agency playoffs.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Before we get to your, the rest of your predictions.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to do it your way, which is going to be very hard for me just so you know.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Backing off is going to be very hard for me.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: But I want to know if you think as of today, the culture of playoff.
• 4:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 4:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you've changed your mind a little.
• 4:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_03]: I've been.
• 4:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: You were the most optimistic.
• 4:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's a mystically optimistic and the best way I can say it.
• 4:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've been honest and I've been.
• 4:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think kind of spot on with a lot of the things I've said regarding the cults and what they've done for the last better part of the last two years.
• 4:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I just don't see it.
• 4:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I thought I saw the vision and I just I don't see the vision.
• 4:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: My fear is the Daniel Jones is good enough that they saw him long-term as the.
• 5:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's it?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: What's his ceiling?
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Knight's best quarterback in the NFL.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: If he reached absolute
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Pinnacle Daniel Jones night to eleven and quarterback in the best quarterback in his division right But if we we've seen Daniel Jones, which and he had some tools see everybody knows that that's why he was a high pick.
• 5:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know a lot of people who like dramatic college.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: I didn't but Let's say he fulfills everything the giant study was going to be when they drafted him.
• 5:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: What's he bet night the best quarterback in the NFL to eleven
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  [SPEAKER_01]: Fifteen.
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• 5:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: Can we just have it implode starting something?
• 6:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I've been told that I have to be more optimistic, but I just, I don't see it.
• 6:04
  [SPEAKER_03]: So, the most optimistic way I can say it, this team will be good enough to be okay and bad enough to not be good.
• 6:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Perfect way to put that.
• 6:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I think, honestly, will the best case scenario is a lot of losses.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: For the organization moving for you.
• 6:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's what I mean.
• 6:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: And the championship will bust in my life now.
• 6:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: you know, I have no time to fiddle with ten and seventeen's anymore.
• 6:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's interesting because you've been a pacers transfer so long, but I think that they've shown what the
• 6:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: what it can look like.
• 6:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: The fun that I've never been on a run, a losing run as fun as that that pace was themed for.
• 6:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I won't say it on championship or best, but you're absolutely right.
• 6:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: But it's not.
• 6:45
  [SPEAKER_01]: Championship or bust or something still entertaining that we couldn't even imagine to go in.
• 6:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: How about that?
• 6:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's fair.
• 6:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: So Greg, I want to start off.
• 6:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: You challenged me with my NFL playoff predictions for the year.
• 6:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I've sat in pondered them
• 7:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: a little bit and I even have my NFL awards winners I think will win offensive awards and defensive awards so I'm gonna go through those and I just kind of want your feedback on them all right
• 7:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to pick a really good point to tell you my most absurd predictions.
• 7:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay, so I don't have, I don't have seeds.
• 7:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's way too crazy.
• 7:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: But in the NFC West, I have the Arizona Cardinals winning.
• 7:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've been hot to draw with them for the last two months and I just think it's a division.
• 7:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: Everybody talks about how awesome the Rams are, but they've got some injuries on the offensive line and I'm not sure I trust Matthew Stafford's back.
• 7:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: and I just think that the cardinals are a team on the rise and I see him just kind of sneaking away in a division that may not even have a team get to eleven wins but is exciting they are super competitive and you look forward to watching their games at four o'clock each week leap for Marvin Harris and junior key plus the just and fry effect as we all know everywhere he goes they just win yep so I expect that I would you know Tyler Murray is going to be
• 8:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Kyler Murray is going to be more than serviceable and I think that Marvin Harrison takes a huge leap forward.
• 8:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: Some days Kyler Murray is unbelievable and so much fun to watch and some days he's going to lose you the game and that's just who he is.
• 8:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Maybe this year he loses you a couple fewer and it's a really good season.
• 8:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
• 8:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have no pulse on the West.
• 8:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: except for that I really think the forty-nineers might have the number one pick.
• 8:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't trust the rams.
• 8:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think is that I just don't trust the injuries.
• 8:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't like Stafford's back injury.
• 8:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Jimmy G is it more than I mean he is you're probably the best backup in the league for going as terms of what his resume has been.
• 8:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was a good starter.
• 8:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: An average should good start.
• 8:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, okay, but he took a team to the Super Bowl.
• 8:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: Definitely worthy of being called a very good backup.
• 8:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: How about that?
• 8:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: And outside of that, I'm actually I'm gonna I'm gonna pause.
• 9:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: I have a few more thoughts on the West.
• 9:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Do you find that absurd that I think the forty-nineers might have the number one pick?
• 9:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: No.
• 9:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think so.
• 9:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 9:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: When people say it out loud, it sounds crazy, but I'm not really surprised if anybody has the number one pick.
• 9:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if a few things go wrong, they're so, um, receiver.
• 9:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's very possible.
• 9:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Rock pretty wasn't that good when you had great weapons.
• 9:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: Let's just say it that way.
• 9:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's fair.
• 9:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's fair.
• 9:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, McAfrey's been injury, prone, jaw-on, chinnings is your wide receiver one.
• 9:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: I euk's injured.
• 9:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: You drafted Jordan Watkins in the fourth round at Ole Miss.
• 9:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's kind of banged up, so it's like who's even going to catch the ball?
• 9:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean he's so good, but he you can count on kiddo miss and a few games each year to just with random injuries so I would be fair.
• 9:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think we should pause the West conversation.
• 9:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I have a little bit more to say later.
• 9:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: So for the east, I have the Eagles getting it done again.
• 10:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just think the roster's too talented for them not to win the division.
• 10:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: The rest of the division sucks.
• 10:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to go that far, but I'm going to continue I wasn't going to win a four games.
• 10:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: You think that's absurd.
• 10:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's absurd.
• 10:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to win more than four games.
• 10:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know, the oldest team in the league, right?
• 10:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I still think that they'll win more than four games.
• 10:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: You know how every year to the oldest team in the NFL?
• 10:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: They get hurt and then they don't perform.
• 10:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't see it happening.
• 10:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I still think that their talent is there.
• 10:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: If Daniels can be as good as he was last year, they're going to be good.
• 10:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's incredible.
• 10:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's got one day.
• 10:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's going to lead a team to a Super Bowl.
• 10:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 10:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be this year.
• 10:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
• 10:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: The NFC North, the Packers, this Micah Parsons trade only solidifies that.
• 10:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is, I think, the best team of the North.
• 10:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think the Tiger, not the Tigers.
• 10:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: The Lions have a slight downfall.
• 10:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think their roster is also too good, but I just don't see him win in the division.
• 10:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think it's going to be tougher for him than people think.
• 11:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: My NFC South, just by proxy of what you can eliminate Carolina and New Orleans.
• 11:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: is the the books.
• 11:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just think that they're the best roster.
• 11:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: I trust Baker may feel for whatever reason they've been able to figure it out with OCs leaving.
• 11:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think you just you trust that they have the pieces with Mike Evans with God when coming back.
• 11:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: They drafted a book.
• 11:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: They have McMillan who's on the IR with a neck injury, but it's going to be back at some point.
• 11:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: They've got to more than capable
• 11:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: running backs and their defensive lines good.
• 11:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: So like they're just the way their team is constructed just allows for them to continue.
• 11:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think to be successful.
• 11:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: So now wait hold on.
• 11:40
  [SPEAKER_01]: I haven't disagreed with the words you've said since the last time I spoke, but where have you just passed the Vikings for some reason?
• 11:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because I know you have a great big bone or further head coach.
• 11:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: You know, I've really kind of sat here and I think this is where you're going to, I told you there's going to be a few surprises.
• 11:58
  [SPEAKER_03]: My a wild card team is Washington, just by I think Jade Daniels is just that good.
• 12:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: Could be.
• 12:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he's just that good.
• 12:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: My second wild card team is the Lions because I think you're going to imagine them falling that far.
• 12:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: And my seventh and last team is the Seattle Seahawks.
• 12:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: So two out of the West.
• 12:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think two out of the West, the West had two ten-win teams last year.
• 12:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: The CX just missed the playoffs on a tiebreaker.
• 12:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: Not absurd.
• 12:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't see it, but not absurd.
• 12:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that their team is just we forget about them all the time, but they just consistently win.
• 12:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think they have a hard rock for us.
• 12:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I mean, they get to be good.
• 12:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he just has to be just okay.
• 12:45
  [SPEAKER_02]: Solid roster.
• 12:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: But I, you know, I solved the vision for a long time with the Vikings, and I still do.
• 12:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think if there's a team that I'm wrong on, I think it's the Minnesota Vikings are really good and make the playoffs.
• 12:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: But just the way that I sorted it out, there were just some teams that I felt like I couldn't leave off the list.
• 13:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: And I still don't disagree on anything.
• 13:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they had to be a process of elimination.
• 13:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I actually, I went as far to say, I have my first teams out.
• 13:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: of the playoff.
• 13:10
  [SPEAKER_03]: So they eight nine and ten seed.
• 13:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: I have the LA Rams.
• 13:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: This is my first out.
• 13:15
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've got the Dallas Cowboys.
• 13:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: My second.
• 13:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: And then I have the Atlanta Falcons as my third out and I think that the Rams and Cowboys both finish above five hundred and I think that the Falcons are below five hundred or only in conversation because
• 13:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: of the division.
• 13:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: I was going to ask they get for for free wins practically because they don't go for in those games.
• 13:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: They don't deserve to be in the position because of the division.
• 13:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that's just they'll be there in the conversation.
• 13:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: They'll be in the hunt because the bucks for whatever reason won't be able to just put them away.
• 13:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's strange.
• 13:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: That division's always strange and they never win that many games.
• 13:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I don't disagree with anything that you have put said in the NFC.
• 14:01
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think you're right.
• 14:04
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would probably change a couple of teams.
• 14:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: I would probably, for example, put the Rams in over the Seahawks, like if I was going to pick a wild person.
• 14:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's between the two.
• 14:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think the buck and ears of three games better than the Falcon.
• 14:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't the bucks for whatever reason can't put him away.
• 14:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Whatever it is, they just can't, they'll list lose games that they should.
• 14:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: They might be elite.
• 14:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: You think they could be elite, right?
• 14:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think they were last year.
• 14:38
  [SPEAKER_03]: They were just complete clock mismanagement away from a good draft.
• 14:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: They had a good offseason.
• 14:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: They did.
• 14:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: I could see them be in the other team.
• 14:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: Todd Bowles.
• 14:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was bad in that, that game last year that they hosted Washington, but
• 14:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're good.
• 14:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I was hot, I was hot on them for the last six weeks of the season.
• 14:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like I said, this is a team that is awfully dangerous.
• 15:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they kept their roster together.
• 15:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: And that's yeah, continuity is important.
• 15:05
  [SPEAKER_01]: Are we going to hear from them when we talk about conference championship teams or?
• 15:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.
• 15:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: Oh, all right.
• 15:10
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think so.
• 15:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we might both.
• 15:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 15:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now we're going to have to do that direction to the better to conference.
• 15:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is where the uncertainty comes for me.
• 15:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: So my AFC West winner for the first time in a long time changes.
• 15:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think the Denver Broncos win the West.
• 15:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think they have talked about them the best roster.
• 15:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I know that you are not high on Bonesix, but I don't know how because the watching play and he's just really.
• 15:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Did you watch the playoff game last year?
• 15:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: I saw the limit.
• 15:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: That wasn't that was not.
• 15:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: I see the limitations.
• 15:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: Run the ball through life depending.
• 15:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: You can't deny their limitations to his game.
• 15:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: And they've gotten better.
• 15:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: They've only added more around them.
• 15:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: True.
• 15:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're all in some lines too great.
• 15:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: They were banged up going into the playoffs last year.
• 15:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't think that game was indicative of who they are.
• 15:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Still for that matter, Bonix didn't turn the ball over.
• 15:59
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they struggled.
• 16:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: Let's go back and watch and see the drops in the third, the second, third quarter.
• 16:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was ugly.
• 16:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: It was a poor performance by that entire team in a roster.
• 16:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: The defense didn't keep a minute.
• 16:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to let that.
• 16:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't disagree with you.
• 16:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: I don't disagree with you.
• 16:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: They have three from the West though.
• 16:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's my question.
• 16:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't.
• 16:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't.
• 16:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: The AFC East Buffalo Mills.
• 16:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that they win the division, but I think they're fighting the Patriots off.
• 16:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I do.
• 16:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: I feel convicted about that.
• 16:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: If there's a surprise team this year, it's the New England Patriots.
• 16:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: We have our bet.
• 16:32
  [SPEAKER_03]: The AFC North the Ravens get it done.
• 16:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: For whatever reason Tom once got this video magic over the Ravens to wear, they always keep the division close because the Ravens can't beat the Steelers.
• 16:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't know why, but the Ravens just keep getting better.
• 16:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: The rich get richer, they had a great draft, even picking the twenty-eighth, twenty-nineth pick.
• 16:52
  [SPEAKER_03]: And Lamar Jackson speaks for himself.
• 16:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: He stands for himself as a reason why this team will probably be perennial.
• 17:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: AFC North Champions for the next until Walmart Jackson isn't physically capable playing football anymore.
• 17:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: Agreed for the South.
• 17:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that we both agree we've had conversations back and forth, but the Jacksonville Jaguires I think will win the South.
• 17:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: Agreed.
• 17:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: It seems to change that you know whenever one that the tech is the last couple years now it's time for a change and I think the most natural
• 17:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: If the Texans receivers were healthy, I'd feel differently.
• 17:27
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I think Jacksonville has something special.
• 17:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just, I think last year's season is going to completely flip.
• 17:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to win some of those games.
• 17:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
• 17:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: And they're going to win both games.
• 17:36
  [SPEAKER_03]: What, eleven, one score games last year, they played in.
• 17:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean,
• 17:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: We won what two of them is something.
• 17:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, absurd.
• 17:42
  [SPEAKER_01]: I won five in their first five games and lead in the final minutes of all five of them.
• 17:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, they're starting quarterback would bring him back in the games.
• 17:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: They were down three scores in and then all the sudden.
• 17:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: It's like their defense just becomes Swiss cheese.
• 17:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: And Hunter might be special.
• 17:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: We know Thomas, Brian Thomas, junior special.
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
• 18:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's something there.
• 18:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: I agree.
• 18:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: So my wildcard teams.
• 18:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: for the AFC.
• 18:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: This is where we're going to have fun will.
• 18:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yes, I think so.
• 18:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: So my, as I said, no seating, but the Kansas City chiefs will be in the playoffs, end of conversation.
• 18:17
  [SPEAKER_03]: My second team, Cincinnati Vingles.
• 18:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 18:21
  [SPEAKER_03]: They were nine and eight last year and their defense was one of the worst professional defensive I've ever watched in my life.
• 18:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: They're still on a night because they can just score that many points.
• 18:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: If they get off to any better of a start, if they're even just two and two, two and two, the first four games in, the Bengals make the playoffs because they just get hot down the stretch.
• 18:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: Once Joey B figures it out, as long as he stays healthy, I don't think Hendrickson makes him a fourteen point better defense, but he does make him better.
• 18:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: And you hope that you hope that you find a defensive coordinator that he wasn't able to command the room anymore.
• 18:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: And for whatever reason you get new new juice in there and they rally around them and play better, but I think that this team is still offensively chase brown super they're just too talented.
• 19:06
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that
• 19:09
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't see a scenario where they're nine and eight last year, nine and eight, and we talk about how awful the season was for the Bengals last year.
• 19:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: Expect them bookmarking for ten of games at least.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: Ten wins.
• 19:19
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think eleven's probably close to reality.
• 19:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: Then my last team, I've said, I wish I didn't have to spoil it as early as I did, but the New England Patriots.
• 19:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think they just sneak in.
• 19:31
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think that you might as well just go to Los Angeles and slap Jim Harball right in his face.
• 19:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: because he is way too good with this roster to make them play us.
• 19:43
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's about the only place I disagree.
• 19:44
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's a tackle for Sean Slater.
• 19:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's out the whole year.
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's a huge line.
• 19:47
  [SPEAKER_01]: Things can go poorly.
• 19:48
  [SPEAKER_01]: I know.
• 19:49
  [SPEAKER_01]: But you know how good he is.
• 19:51
  [SPEAKER_01]: I tried to tell you last year when he said now there's still a year away.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's that good.
• 19:55
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't disagree with you.
• 19:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: I don't disagree with you at all, but I just think that the division's gotten better.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: The Raiders are better.
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_03]: The Broncos are better.
• 20:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: The Chiefs are still going to be there.
• 20:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just don't three years of making it out.
• 20:07
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I'm taking the Broncos and the Chiefs to make it out of that division and the Chargers are the odd man out.
• 20:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: All right.
• 20:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: So you're ready for my absurdity then.
• 20:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's here.
• 20:14
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be three out of the West.
• 20:15
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pretty sure about that.
• 20:17
  [SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be the bills.
• 20:20
  [SPEAKER_01]: Ravens and Steelers.
• 20:22
  [SPEAKER_01]: So we know those six are getting in.
• 20:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: Those six to me are no doubt getting in, although we know for sure that's not going to happen because it never happens that way.
• 20:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: But to me, those are six playoff teams without a doubt.
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Your Bengals, the Houston Texans, the New York Jets will all tie at eight and nine for the final playoff spot.
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_01]: Justin Fields, New York Jets will be eight and
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm pulling your leg.
• 20:52
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I do think it'll be the Patriots will be that third game.
• 20:55
  [SPEAKER_01]: But I do think that Jets, it could maybe you also have four way tie.
• 21:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: I came in here to say, and the Patriots would be that third team.
• 21:02
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just wanted to just say that I was going to have the Jets ahead of them.
• 21:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: That is not how I feel.
• 21:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: So I have my first team now.
• 21:08
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think all three be eight and nine.
• 21:11
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay, fair enough.
• 21:13
  [SPEAKER_01]: and make it one of them will be get have a tie breaker into the player.
• 21:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I my first team's out are the Steelers and the Texans and I have both you have the Steelers out have the Steelers out of the playoffs.
• 21:23
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you're out of your mind.
• 21:25
  [SPEAKER_03]: I have the Steelers.
• 21:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: Have you looked at the roster and you're making that prediction?
• 21:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Where is uh, worst campaign we're in the middle of each other.
• 21:34
  [SPEAKER_03]: He's not shown up to practice.
• 21:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he will.
• 21:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I guess defense of tackle in football.
• 21:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: I've been Aaron Rodgers biggest critic for years.
• 21:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: I just think that the horse was right next to him and I just I don't I think DK Metcalf is mid if he's right you're playing your you killer playmaker on the outside.
• 21:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: I can't let me off.
• 21:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: Now.
• 21:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm counting on the defense which is going to be this type of this type of NFL the early in the year at mode to defense for this type of NFL come later in the year with just the way the game's called.
• 22:05
  [SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't vote for great defense.
• 22:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: look at the last like three super goals.
• 22:11
  [SPEAKER_03]: Over high scoring games.
• 22:12
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but most of the playoff games have been a lower scoring.
• 22:18
  [SPEAKER_03]: But the Texans and Steelers are probably nine and eight and above five hundred.
• 22:22
  [SPEAKER_03]: And those were the only two teams I really think are in contention that I see.
• 22:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: So.
• 22:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think we mostly agree.
• 22:29
  [SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know how you have the Steelers and Chargers out knowing the Mike Tomlin and Jim Harbar.
• 22:35
  [SPEAKER_03]: Because I think that we're Sean Slidgers that big of a loss you're left.
• 22:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's a big loss.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: for sure.
• 22:40
  [SPEAKER_03]: And that offensive line wasn't that good anyway, last year.
• 22:43
  [SPEAKER_03]: We talked about four new teams.
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's always four teams new in the playoffs every year on average.
• 22:48
  [SPEAKER_03]: And in my prediction, there are five new playoff teams.
• 22:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: So I will see.
• 22:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, obviously the best thing about this is there's receipts.
• 22:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: So that's right.
• 22:58
  [SPEAKER_01]: I have a question for you back based on this.
• 23:00
  [SPEAKER_01]: Every year, one of the top four teams odds wise does not make the playoffs this year.
• 23:06
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's Buffalo Baltimore, Kansas City and Philadelphia.
• 23:09
  [SPEAKER_01]: I assume you would pick the chiefs to be the one.
• 23:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: There's none of them are not making the playoffs.
• 23:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: If you had to pick one, if I had to pick one,
• 23:20
  [SPEAKER_03]: I'm picking the Eagles.
• 23:21
  [SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think you might be right.
• 23:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Just because Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes.
• 23:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's all you have to say.
• 23:27
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think that the cowboys are good enough of the Eagles just for one day.
• 23:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think the Giants are okay.
• 23:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Like the Giants could be five or two gets hurt or they have an injury somewhere.
• 23:38
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think a lot of them finish in the last.
• 23:39
  [SPEAKER_01]: That's all I know in the East.
• 23:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: That's bold.
• 23:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: All right.
• 23:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: Do you want to hear my individual player awards?
• 23:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: I do.
• 23:47
  [SPEAKER_03]: So my MVP is Lamar Jackson.
• 23:50
  [SPEAKER_03]: Agreed.
• 23:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: Stats wise, probably should have won it last year, but the argument could have been a senior.
• 23:57
  [SPEAKER_03]: Should have been in reverse with the fact that Josh Allen stats were better.
• 24:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: And so like the whole argument if he meant more to his team, Josh Allen deserved to win it last year, but Lamar is going to win it this year.
• 24:07
  [SPEAKER_01]: They're both MVP's.
• 24:08
  [SPEAKER_03]: The offensive player of the year will be Jamar Chase.
• 24:12
  [SPEAKER_03]: Wow.
• 24:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: Okay.
• 24:14
  [SPEAKER_03]: The defense of player on the year will be Aden Hutchinson, who is on his way to doing it last year before he broke his leg in half.
• 24:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Give me Kyle Hamilton in the Ravensweep.
• 24:26
  [SPEAKER_03]: Not crazy.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, often to player the year.
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_03]: The Marject.
• 24:31
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, he's not going to win MVP and often to player the year, but it just doesn't happen.
• 24:34
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 24:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, then.
• 24:35
  [SPEAKER_01]: Josh Allen's the other, but okay.
• 24:37
  [SPEAKER_01]: I'm saying they're gonna take it on both sides, best player both sides.
• 24:41
  [SPEAKER_03]: Rookie of the year, just overall, rookie the year's Travis Hunter.
• 24:45
  [SPEAKER_03]: His both ways are going just his prowess both ways if he's good at both people when because it's just never really been done before.
• 24:53
  [SPEAKER_01]: The word out of New York is that
• 24:57
  [SPEAKER_01]: Abdul Carter might be the answer to that one.
• 25:00
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, time out.
• 25:01
  [SPEAKER_03]: My offense of work of the year's trivia on Henderson of the Patriots running backs are always it's the easiest position I think for a rookie to be really good at and he's got all he's gotten junior games written all over him.
• 25:13
  [SPEAKER_03]: My work defense of work of the year is Abdul Carter.
• 25:16
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think that he wins it, but I think Hunter wins out off, because I think there's a chance Travis Hunter has a thousand receiving yards this year based on the way that that offense is constructed.
• 25:26
  [SPEAKER_01]: I think he'll need some adjustment time at receiver.
• 25:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Go look at Godwin and Mike Evans for years.
• 25:33
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, and I know that Liam Cohen is always as for the last
• 25:39
  [SPEAKER_03]: year was the the bucks offensive coordinator.
• 25:42
  [SPEAKER_03]: He was with the chargers, but they had Puka and Cooper Cuff who were both over a thousand.
• 25:46
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, his offense, boads well for one and two receivers.
• 25:51
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think Travis Hunter is the two receiver on that team.
• 25:54
  [SPEAKER_03]: And I think he's gets a thousand yards.
• 25:56
  [SPEAKER_03]: I think he majors and offense and he's got a nuclear dime package that they bring him in defensively where
• 26:03
  [SPEAKER_03]: and maybe that changes maybe he's much better defensively way ahead of the game and offensively they take a step back and he you know he's his role diminishes there but for his pockets being an offensive player will make him more money in the long run and at the end of the day their businessmen and they will I think that they will go towards where he can make the most money
• 26:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: Unless you think you can be a deon Sanders or shut down guys, is there an indication he can be a shut down guy?
• 26:30
  [SPEAKER_01]: Because if there is, there's plenty of money in that.
• 26:33
  [SPEAKER_01]: If he's gonna be a, you know, a B plus player, either one you gotta be a receiver.
• 26:37
  [SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I think that just as still transition, I think offense will, I think it'll, having him, if he's a good receiver, and you've got Brian Thomas Jr.
• 26:49
  [SPEAKER_03]: and Travis Hunter is your one, two, to watch out.
• 26:53
  [SPEAKER_03]: watch out and a quarter of a year together in a quarter back with more and two maybe is the best deep ball thrower in the league one of those two going pushing them all downfield watch out that's going to be a tough offense to stop if they're running game an offensive line can keep them right couple pretty good running backs nothing special but there is their bad in in big beer bad there they're they're both
• 27:16
  [SPEAKER_01]: around average okay, you know, but I've heard the slander that they're the worst running back duo in the league.
• 27:23
  [SPEAKER_01]: It's just not true.
• 27:24
  [SPEAKER_01]: ATNs are pretty good.
• 27:25
  [SPEAKER_01]: He's got a nose for the inzone.
• 27:28
  [SPEAKER_01]: Well, he's not the final.
• 27:29
  [SPEAKER_03]: Well, he needs to not find it because I need Trevor Lawrence quarterback sneaks for my ass.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
• 27:36
  [SPEAKER_01]: Rule number one, no one cares about your fantasy team will.
• 27:53
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