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Andre Ewing Peace Officer-FOUNDER-CURSEBREAKERS 300 STRONG · Brian Thomas

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Speaker 1: Fifty five kerc DE talk station Have eight Friday. A
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Speaker 1: man I thoroughly enjoy his post on Facebook. Outspoken he is.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't speak for anybody but himself, but excellent observations
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Speaker 1: he makes and speaking truth to power quite often. Retired
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Speaker 1: since a police officer after a storied, I believe, thirty
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Speaker 1: year career, he is involved with a group called Curse
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Speaker 1: Breakers three hundred strong. It's a prison ministry advocate. He
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Speaker 1: is a man of faith and a man who's outspoken.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, Brother Dre aka Andre Ewan. Good to have
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Speaker 1: you on the morning show.
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Speaker 2: Sir, Good morning, my man, Brian Man. I wanted to
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Speaker 2: see in person this morning, but ran into a couple
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Speaker 2: of win troubles from last night. But it's all good.
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Speaker 2: How you doing.
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Speaker 1: It's all good when we're talking to you, brother, and
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Speaker 1: I really would like to be seen across of the
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Speaker 1: board here, but that's okay. We'll do that again next year.
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Speaker 1: I know I'm hoping to have you on during Counteryere
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. I'm doing great. You're getting geared up
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Speaker 1: for the holidays, going to celebrate Christmas.
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Speaker 2: Andre, Yes, sir, just all about peace and happiness. That's it.
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Speaker 2: That's what we're practicing, just making sure we have peace
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Speaker 2: that are surpassed all understand.
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Speaker 1: These amen to that. That's one of my favorite phrases,
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Speaker 1: Peace of God. It passes all human understanding. It's like
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Speaker 1: a lot of things in politics. Maybe it's like the
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Speaker 1: one point eight million dollar settlement to the protesters during
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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty floored protest. Let's start with that one,
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Speaker 1: Andre I understand from a lawyer's perspective, I understand the
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Speaker 1: argument that was made by the protesters. Listen, we have
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Speaker 1: a First Amendment right to well, to protest, to speak politically,
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Speaker 1: to gather together in groups. And the riot situation was
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Speaker 1: there was a mixed bag of people who were just protesting,
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Speaker 1: but also people who were breaking the law, and things
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Speaker 1: got apparently out of control. I know, the mayor put
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Speaker 1: a curfew in place, and so all these people who
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Speaker 1: were gathered together and put over in the Hamilton County
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Speaker 1: lockup in that area. I can't remember what they called that,
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Speaker 1: but it was sort of an outdoor area and held
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Speaker 1: there for a while, file this lawsuit claiming that their
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Speaker 1: civil rights got violated. So, yeah, we do have the
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Speaker 1: First Amendment, but there were a lot of crime in there.
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Speaker 1: Apparently the police arrested them for the curfew violation, not
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Speaker 1: for specific crimes like blocking the street or throwing off
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Speaker 1: frozen water bottle or something like that that would result
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Speaker 1: in a separate criminal or could result in a separate
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Speaker 1: criminal charge, but because they were curfew violations, they claimed
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Speaker 1: it was a civil rights violation. So ultimately the city
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Speaker 1: wrote them a check for one point or eight point
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Speaker 1: one million dollars, which translates about twelve to thirteen thousand
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Speaker 1: dollars per protester. As a former police officer and someone
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Speaker 1: who understands the situation, Andre Ewing, what's your take on
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Speaker 1: all this and what's your reaction to the settlement.
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Speaker 2: Well, of course you had over four hundred and seventy
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Speaker 2: nine plaintiffs and here you have a payout, and people
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Speaker 2: do understand this. What I call this game is to
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Speaker 2: get into certain groups, get into a protesting type situation,
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Speaker 2: and to bait the police so they can actually sue.
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Speaker 2: And this is interesting because this happens in a lot
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Speaker 2: of different places around the country. I mean, but to
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Speaker 2: really look deeper into an eight point one million dollar settlement,
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Speaker 2: I mean, the way the arrests were, they were a
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Speaker 2: lot of individuals that was told was being reckless. So
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Speaker 2: it's interesting that it was strictly just being a curfew violation.
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Speaker 2: And that's where city leaders should have came together and
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Speaker 2: been more specific that am I just going to arrest
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Speaker 2: you and place you in the Hamilton count of Justice
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Speaker 2: Center on a specific pod because you violated a curfew?
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Speaker 2: And so is it you violated a curfew or you
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Speaker 2: were being reckless during this twenty twenty George Floyd racial
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Speaker 2: justice protest. So the clarity is extremely week and it
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Speaker 2: would be interesting to see what was the actual plan,
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Speaker 2: to be honest with you, buy the police during this
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Speaker 2: encounter to just arrest individuals that were violating the curfew.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I talk with former FOP president Dan Hills about this,
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Speaker 1: and he was very upset about this the settlement. But
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Speaker 1: I pointed to him and I's like, listen, from a
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Speaker 1: you know, lawyer perspective, From a constitutionalist perspective, you do
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Speaker 1: have the right to free assembly and that trumps the
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Speaker 1: curfew argument I would make because you know, adults are
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Speaker 1: allowed to go out at any given time and assemble,
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Speaker 1: but peaceable assembly is different than breaking an individual law,
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Speaker 1: like for example, in the middle of the street. You're
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Speaker 1: blocking traffic. You can be cited for just that. It
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Speaker 1: doesn't matter what the time of day is, doesn't matter
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Speaker 1: if you're involved in protest or free speech. You're out
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the damn road. You can't be there.
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Speaker 1: Here's a ticket for that. If everyone who was arrested
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Speaker 1: got an individual ticket under that type of scenario, then
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Speaker 1: I don't think you'd see this lawsuit. They wouldn't have
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Speaker 1: the civil rights argument that they made. But the problem was,
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Speaker 1: as it was explained to me, is that there were
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Speaker 1: so many people there it's virtually impossible for law enforcement
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Speaker 1: to figure out who's standing on the sidewalk versus who's
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the street, who's peaceably assembling, and
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Speaker 1: who's not. And so you just gather them all up
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Speaker 1: and tell them they all violated the curfew. It was
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Speaker 1: the impetus behind the lawsuit. So what's your having been
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Speaker 1: a police officer for so many years, I mean, that's it.
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Speaker 1: I suppose that's a genuine problem parsing through the lawbreakers
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Speaker 1: and the ones that aren't.
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Speaker 2: And you know what, Brian, this is why I say
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Speaker 2: that I would love to see the body cam footage
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Speaker 2: from from point A to point B where they were arrested.
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Speaker 2: Let me see the details of what was actually presented
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Speaker 2: that was there, or did you have officers just being
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Speaker 2: reckless and going in and arresting just anybody. And that's
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Speaker 2: where I'm sure that there were specific individuals that they
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Speaker 2: probably just gathered up that let's just say, were in
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Speaker 2: the crowd and we're trying to assemble peacefully. And we
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Speaker 2: know that is what generated the actual complaints. And once
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Speaker 2: you start getting one and two and three good complaints,
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Speaker 2: you're going to get one hundred more following.
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Speaker 1: No question about it. So had there been better management,
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Speaker 1: in other words, had the mayor gotten more actively involved
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Speaker 1: or sharel Long gotten more actively involved as city manager
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Speaker 1: or council getting more actively involved in directions to the
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Speaker 1: police department. I guess I'm just wondering where the breakdown
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Speaker 1: comes in, you know, explaining to them, though you just
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Speaker 1: can't randomly pick up people for peaceably assembling, you got
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Speaker 1: to have a specific crime. Is that the kind of
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Speaker 1: directive as a police officer, when you were a police officer,
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Speaker 1: as you currently understand things, is that the kind of
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Speaker 1: thing you would expect council, the manager and or the
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Speaker 1: mayor to do in advance of the obviously knowing that
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Speaker 1: these protests are going on, hell had been going on
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Speaker 1: for several days, So what do you expect them to do?
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Speaker 2: Well? See, this is what happens, Brian, when the left
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Speaker 2: hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing, and
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Speaker 2: the lack of communication. And I'm gonna be honest with you,
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Speaker 2: no matter what situation I was in, I remember the riots,
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Speaker 2: even with Tim Thomas and that particular situation, and at
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Speaker 2: the time, I'm gonna be the supervisors were ridiculous. And
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Speaker 2: this is where you really have to sit back and
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Speaker 2: ask what are we doing at this particular time, how
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Speaker 2: are we doing it? And make sure te's a cross
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Speaker 2: and eyes or dotted. So somewhere in this particular situation,
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Speaker 2: somebody clearly dropped the ball and they just grabbed a
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Speaker 2: group of individuals and said, hey, we're gonna get these
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Speaker 2: officers down here. If they across the street the wrong way,
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Speaker 2: arrest them. And this is where the breakdown is in communication.
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Speaker 1: And fair enough, Now your takeaway, did they collectively learn
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Speaker 1: anything from this on a going forward basis? New practices
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Speaker 1: or protocols put into place so we don't have to
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Speaker 1: continue to write checks.
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Speaker 2: Andre, you know what, I guess the answer will be.
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Speaker 2: We will soon see because we both know that there's
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Speaker 2: going to be another type of protest, another type of
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Speaker 2: writing situation, and this is where leadership matters and making
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Speaker 2: sure that the right people are in place that these
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Speaker 2: things don't continue to happen again.
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Speaker 1: All right, well, I'll tell you what. We almost out
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Speaker 1: of time in this segment. I'm gonna break a little
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Speaker 1: bit early and let you know in advance on this
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Speaker 1: particular topic. Law enforcement generally and writing checks want to
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Speaker 1: hit you for what's the status on the Chief Washington situation?
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Speaker 1: Do we learn anything from that Chief Diji? Do we
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Speaker 1: ever get a reason for why they put her on
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Speaker 1: administrative leave? That one seems to be swirling with question marks?
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Speaker 1: And doesn't it not look like we're going to be
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Speaker 1: writing a couple of very long ar checks in connection
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Speaker 1: with their cases against the city. Let's continue with Brother
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Speaker 1: Dre Andre, you and curse breakers three hundred strong. It's
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Speaker 1: brief words. Fifty five KRC. You want to give the
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Speaker 1: Brother Dre. You can call him Andre Ewing if you like.
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Speaker 1: That's his Facebook page, Andre A N. Dre e Ewing
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Speaker 1: e Wing. I follow him all the time. He does
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Speaker 1: great rants. He's on the program for this hour talking
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Speaker 1: about matters going on the city of Cincinnati, before we
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Speaker 1: get into the questions I have about former fire Chief
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Speaker 1: Washington and the currently on administrative leave dismissed police chief
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Speaker 1: three Sothigi. I see that you are going to have
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Speaker 1: a brand new web page after the year. Is that
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Speaker 1: the one you want people to go to after the
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Speaker 1: first of the year, or are you going to stick
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Speaker 1: with Andrea Ewing. I'm just letting my friends know so
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Speaker 1: they can check out what you got to say.
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Speaker 2: Andre, Yes, sir, after the first of the year, go
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Speaker 2: go back to Curse Breakers three hundred dash, Brother Dre,
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Speaker 2: and all the content will be pushed over to that
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Speaker 2: particular page.
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Speaker 1: Fair enough, And you want to remind my listeners what
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Speaker 1: you do with Cursebreakers three hundred. I know it's prison ministry,
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Speaker 1: but just put a little more information on the bones
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Speaker 1: of that general description, because I think it's a great thing.
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Speaker 2: You're doing Yeah, Curse Breaker is three hundred just designed
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Speaker 2: to assist and help individuals to come over what I
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Speaker 2: call supernatural strongholds of things in their life. And so
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Speaker 2: it burst in the prison system to just give people
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Speaker 2: hope before they get released and to have them in
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Speaker 2: a stronger mental, physical, and spiritual position. So it just
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Speaker 2: expands outside of prison because everyone in life is going
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Speaker 2: through some strongholds they need to break.
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Speaker 1: Isn't that true? And if you had to boil it
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Speaker 1: down to the single most or the predominant reason any
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Speaker 1: of the men that work with in prison and try
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Speaker 1: to turn their lives around why they got there or
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Speaker 1: how they got there, what would you point to Andre
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Speaker 1: if I can even put you on the spot along
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Speaker 1: those lines, Because you know a lot of reasons people
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Speaker 1: get into crime, but I think maybe the deterioration of
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Speaker 1: the family. I know drugs are quite often involved, but
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Speaker 1: what drives a person to crime in them for the
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Speaker 1: most part that you've seen.
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Speaker 2: Is exactly what you said. That stronghold is extremely deep,
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Speaker 2: that upbringing death surrounding they I talk to kids even
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Speaker 2: at are ten years old, and we've always asked how
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Speaker 2: did you start getting hooked on drug? And they say,
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Speaker 2: oh wow, I learned it from my dad or my
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Speaker 2: mom or an adult. And so family is a key
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Speaker 2: component on individuals that are incarcerated and.
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Speaker 1: A key component to success as well. Strong family is
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Speaker 1: more likely to lead to success regardless of income, I
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Speaker 1: would argue, correct, Andre.
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Speaker 2: Correct, correct, surprised. I've seen strong families break through the
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Speaker 2: utmost just strong holds just because they have that family support.
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Speaker 2: So it can work both ways.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and sometimes in the absence of family, that's where
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Speaker 1: faith can be a great substitute. There is still some
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Speaker 1: hope and some reason to be a strong, positive, crime
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Speaker 1: free individual. All right, brother Dre, let's pivot over here.
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Speaker 1: We had the whole problem in the lawsuit that ensued
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Speaker 1: as a result of Chief Washington, the fire chief getting dismissed.
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Speaker 1: Looks like they're going to be writing a pretty big check.
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Speaker 1: I think all errors indicate that the city of Cincinnati's
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Speaker 1: on the hook. Now we've got police chief threes a
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Speaker 1: Thigi and after the summer violence, she was put on
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Speaker 1: I guess, paid administrative leave and was left with a
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Speaker 1: substitute chief. Have you heard a specific reason why they
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Speaker 1: took that action against police Chiefdji? Because I haven't heard
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Speaker 1: a reason. It's almost as if they said, all right,
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Speaker 1: you're off the job, and then they're going to go
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Speaker 1: investigate on why they removed her from the position. Is
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Speaker 1: it like a ready fire aim or am I missing
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Speaker 1: some of the facts.
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Speaker 2: No, you're not missing the facts. And this is the
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Speaker 2: ridiculousness of the city manager and the leadership. It just
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Speaker 2: appears that they have blank checks to write for everyone.
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Speaker 2: And even though I've been outspoken on the leadership of
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Speaker 2: Chief Thiji and the way things went, the way that
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Speaker 2: the mayor and the city manager have conducted this process
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Speaker 2: has just been sloppy across the board. Mike Washington, the
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Speaker 2: fire former fire chief should have never been fired in
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Speaker 2: the first place. I mean there's no reason, no evidence whatsoever.
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Speaker 2: So to have somebody abuse their authority and consistently abuse
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Speaker 2: their authority, it's interesting how the city is okay with
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Speaker 2: all these checks that are being written out that they're
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Speaker 2: going to have to pay. And at some point it's
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Speaker 2: people are going to have to prove a point saying
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Speaker 2: we support this type of nonsense by being silence, or
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Speaker 2: are we just gonna not support the city and move out.
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Speaker 1: Well, and I'm sure a lot of people making choices
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Speaker 1: along both of those lines. But you know, the big
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Speaker 1: component and all of this for me is usually and
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Speaker 1: is in this particular case. Why so you can say
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Speaker 1: they're abusing their authority. Yes they are, at least it
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Speaker 1: seems to be so. But they even if they came
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Speaker 1: out loud and said we have removed Chief Fiji for
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Speaker 1: this or these reasons, at least you could put look
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Speaker 1: to the reasons they cited and say, well, that is
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Speaker 1: beyond your authority. There's no reason to dismiss her for that.
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Speaker 1: Or we could collectively say, you know what, that's a
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Speaker 1: pretty good reason. It sounds like you got something to
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Speaker 1: hang your hat on when she ultimately sues you for
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Speaker 1: wrongful termination or reputation violation or something like that. Instead
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Speaker 1: we get nothing, and you're.
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Speaker 2: Not gonna get nothing. And that's why at the beginning,
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Speaker 2: let's say you you make these decisions. At the beginning,
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Speaker 2: when the majority of police officers said, hey, look we
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Speaker 2: don't think Chief the is the actual best choice, you
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Speaker 2: decide to choose her anyway, And there are sources that
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Speaker 2: say that Cheryl Long clearly clearly stated that this is
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Speaker 2: my pick and I cannot get this wrong. Okay, so
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Speaker 2: you fires or put somebody on administrative lead that you selected,
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Speaker 2: so you are part of the problem. And so I've
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Speaker 2: always been very very clear I'm not letting any of
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Speaker 2: them off the hook. But it still starts with Sheryl
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Speaker 2: Long And where is her experience to start to just
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Speaker 2: fire individuals who may or may not deserve it and
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Speaker 2: does not do the proper investigation. And here we are
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Speaker 2: again with this foolishness, this nonsense, talking about this going
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Speaker 2: into the new year, making more and more payouts on
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Speaker 2: ridiculous information and how people leave this city. And plus
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Speaker 2: it was a political move during the time, very strategic
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Speaker 2: to get rid of Fiji, so a have to have
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Speaker 2: to kind of separate hisself from that process.
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Speaker 1: That sounds like a political motivation. It sounds like a
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Speaker 1: pretty strong argument you're making there, Andrea Ewing, I'm just wondering.
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Speaker 1: And we'll talk about this in the next segment when
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Speaker 1: we continue with Brother Dre. Did Iris Rowley have anything
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Speaker 1: to do with that? And what's with this six hundred
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Speaker 1: and fifty some one thousand dollars ever increasing sweetheart deals
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Speaker 1: she has with the city of Cincinnati And how much
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Speaker 1: controlled and power does she have it's unusual thing we've
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Speaker 1: got going on here in the city. Will continue with
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Speaker 1: brother Dre. Take twenty five right now. If you five
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Speaker 1: right aga. Much like Todd Zenzer, citizen watchdog, former inspector General.
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Speaker 1: He was on the program earlier this week talking about
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Speaker 1: some of the shenanigans going on with city council, the
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Speaker 1: mayor's office, et cetera. Andrea Ewing brother Dre would like
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Speaker 1: to call him. He calls himself that Andrea Ewing on Facebook.
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Speaker 1: He rants regularly about some very important topics in the city.
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Speaker 1: Former law enforcement officer, thirty years on the force. Mike
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Speaker 1: write on that was thirty full years, Andre.
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Speaker 2: It was about just short of thirty. So let's just
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Speaker 2: say twenty nine and once you get over to half
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Speaker 2: is thirty years.
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Speaker 1: There you are. I'll round up for you. Well, what
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Speaker 1: it's easy to do with you man, all right, pivoting over.
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Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about the whole chief situation
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Speaker 1: and the problems with that. Something tells me, because she's
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Speaker 1: been around for a long time, she has a very
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Speaker 1: very big contract with the city of Cincinnati, and she
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Speaker 1: is a profound critic of law enforcement, you know, or
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Speaker 1: I guess, Iris, Rollie, Andre, they just re upped her
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Speaker 1: contract apparently two days after the election. They didn't want
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Speaker 1: that to be an election issue, So she's got a
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Speaker 1: bigger contract. And I note from prior reporting that I've
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Speaker 1: read around from other news outlets that she directed some
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Speaker 1: of the money to her husband to print T shirts
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Speaker 1: and hoodies and things of that. She hired her son
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Speaker 1: to do some of the work on Government Square with
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Speaker 1: regard to the youth violence. We were having, so a
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Speaker 1: lot of nepotism going on in there. But being a
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Speaker 1: sub contractor not an employee of the city, I guess
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Speaker 1: she's allowed to do that, although it looks terrible. What's
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Speaker 1: your take on her involvement in all this? How did
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Speaker 1: she become such a powerful player in the city, and
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Speaker 1: how is it they keep bringing her back year after
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Speaker 1: year after year.
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Speaker 2: Andre, Clearly the start here, Iris Rowley is untouchable, Okay
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Speaker 2: at this point in the game of things that we've
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Speaker 2: witnessed since two thousand and one, in her direct involvement
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Speaker 2: with Tim Thomas h the shooting, she has not stopped
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Speaker 2: from that point. And interesting enough, she has done some
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Speaker 2: uh say, good things with police reform, but it has
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Speaker 2: gone to a point of being overboard. I've been very
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Speaker 2: vocal about saying what exactly is her position. You got
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Speaker 2: to remember that Astab got in office strictly from Iris
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Speaker 2: Rowley beating the streets for him twice. Okay, she was
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Speaker 2: the She was the one who started advocate avoc Aftab
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Speaker 2: early when he was elected, and he of course hired
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Speaker 2: her to city hall. She's been a consultant for sure
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Speaker 2: long and that's been clear, and she also was a
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Speaker 2: extreme selection for Chief Aji. So Iris Roly right now
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Speaker 2: is above the law and she's moving in that same direction.
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Speaker 2: So it doesn't matter basically what goes on or what
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Speaker 2: people say, what's her payout, her husband's getting something. If
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Speaker 2: Aftab city Manager, council is allowing it, and she's a
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Speaker 2: consultant for the city, then do you look at Iris
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Speaker 2: Roly or you'd you look at the leadership that's saying, hey,
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Speaker 2: this is what we are giving you the power to do,
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Speaker 2: and no one's gonna touch you, and you're going to
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Speaker 2: have all the backing necessary to do whatever you want.
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Speaker 2: And that's clear, and that is obvious in the way
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Speaker 2: that she moves and operates.
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Speaker 1: So because of her, I'll say that we use the
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Speaker 1: word popularity within a lot of people within the community,
20:10
Speaker 1: she wields a lot of power over who those folks
20:13
Speaker 1: in the community vote for. I don't understand blind allegiance, Andre,
20:16
Speaker 1: but that's just apparently the way it is.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: Considering that, well, we'll just say we've got some issues
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Speaker 1: with Iris Rolly in these contracts, and let's just say
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Speaker 1: the City of sinsineties this is too much. We're going
20:28
Speaker 1: to break ties with her. You know. I know you
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Speaker 1: said she's untouchable, and I agree with you, because that's
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Speaker 1: the way it seems. Does anybody really think if they
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Speaker 1: cut Iris Rolly loose in advance of that election, that
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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman would be mayor? Now, I mean, could she
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Speaker 1: go out there and all these blue Democrat, very blue
20:44
Speaker 1: folks that live in the city, would they actually listen
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Speaker 1: to her and not vote for aftab Parvoll since he
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Speaker 1: was the only Democrat on the ticket. That much power?
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Speaker 2: Yes, I'm gonna actually say she has that much power,
20:56
Speaker 2: you know, to see she at every political event, she
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Speaker 2: has her hand in everything. She has the support of
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Speaker 2: Damon Lynch, has a lot of powerful pastors and business
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Speaker 2: owners in the city. You don't get to move the
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Speaker 2: way she moves without having some serious, serious, major players
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Speaker 2: that are backing you up. Wow. And so when people
21:22
Speaker 2: constantly say, man, how can she move this way and
21:26
Speaker 2: that way? Hey, guess what if your big brother says
21:30
Speaker 2: I don't care what you do, I got you, guess what,
21:33
Speaker 2: You'll go in and bully anybody anytime, anywhere and have
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Speaker 2: a voice in any position. If you look on any news,
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Speaker 2: speeds or what have you. IRIS is always in the
21:44
Speaker 2: background somewhere. And so it's been clear that the af
21:51
Speaker 2: TAB the council saying, hey, this is what we're gonna
21:55
Speaker 2: write you a check to do these things. But I've
21:58
Speaker 2: always just said, hey, where the money going, how is
22:02
Speaker 2: it distributed? Let's see the numbers of the total success
22:06
Speaker 2: and make sure you're transparent to the city. Yeah, to
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Speaker 2: show these numbers.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's doing a great job and achieving the
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Speaker 1: goals that she was paid, that she's being paid to do,
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Speaker 1: then they should all be walking around trumpeting that. But apparently,
22:20
Speaker 1: and this is kind of thing I learned from Todd
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Speaker 1: Zinzer and others. All the money that goes out to
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Speaker 1: these various very political, non governmental organizations to do work
22:29
Speaker 1: in the community of whatever variety. Nobody's following up the
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Speaker 1: scenes that's even being done. The money goes out, there's
22:36
Speaker 1: no accountability. It just keeps going out. And I worry
22:39
Speaker 1: about that because when you send out that kind of
22:40
Speaker 1: money on a short budget we've got anyway, maybe that
22:43
Speaker 1: money is going out because it finds a loop right
22:46
Speaker 1: back into the pockets of candidates running for office.
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Speaker 2: Right There's a lot of issues that's going on, and
22:53
Speaker 2: I've been clear to say, when you have things that
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Speaker 2: are just extreme, then maybe a federal audit needs to
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Speaker 2: come in and just look at the entire process. Just
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Speaker 2: do a federal audit, see where these numbers, this money
23:08
Speaker 2: are being moved into certain hands, and get it from
23:13
Speaker 2: the top down. Because then if you do that, I
23:16
Speaker 2: guarantee you fo once again follow the money and then
23:21
Speaker 2: you will understand exactly how these things are being maneuvered.
23:24
Speaker 2: But if no one questions that you can do whatever
23:28
Speaker 2: you want when you're you're the sole bank in this project,
23:32
Speaker 2: yes you can.
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Speaker 1: Andre youung pause will bring you back, We'll give you.
23:35
Speaker 1: You get a comment or two on speaking of money,
23:37
Speaker 1: Follow the Money Aftab's car trouble money Receive the talk
23:41
Speaker 1: station A forty fifty five care See the talk station
23:45
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas with Andrea Ewing. Andrea Ewing on Facebook follow him.
23:50
Speaker 1: It gives on some excellent terrors and really things that
23:52
Speaker 1: make you go hmm. He's speaking his heart and mind
23:55
Speaker 1: on matters he's familiar with. And as we pivot away
23:57
Speaker 1: from Iris, rolly over to Aftab. Per I learned from
24:02
Speaker 1: Todd Zenzer the other day when he was on our
24:03
Speaker 1: Citizen Watchdog. He was a former Inspector General for the
24:06
Speaker 1: federal government. We were talking about this very issue missing
24:09
Speaker 1: his car payment and having his car repossessed. Embarrassing, yes,
24:13
Speaker 1: but he mentioned that you as a federal government employee,
24:16
Speaker 1: they're not allowed to miss their payments because it creates
24:19
Speaker 1: an opportunity for maybe bribery or extortion. So there's good
24:23
Speaker 1: reasons you want your elected officials or those working in
24:26
Speaker 1: government to be free from that possibility. So here we
24:29
Speaker 1: have Aftab Purval running one of the larger cities in
24:31
Speaker 1: this in the state of Ohio, can't even manage his
24:34
Speaker 1: own finances and a really lame excuse, Andrea, I know
24:38
Speaker 1: you heard it. He came out and said, well, he
24:39
Speaker 1: had problems with his payment app as if he wouldn't
24:42
Speaker 1: have gotten notices independent of that app that he was
24:45
Speaker 1: behind in his car payment so much so that they
24:47
Speaker 1: were going to come and repossess his car. What's your
24:49
Speaker 1: take on this, brother, Dre.
24:53
Speaker 2: That's my take on it. I'm laughing because this is ridiculous.
24:58
Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of the day day, how
25:01
Speaker 2: can you take care of the city if you can't
25:03
Speaker 2: take care of your own home And it comes down
25:08
Speaker 2: to the responsibilities of things that are in place. I'm
25:12
Speaker 2: not going to give you a pass on that. I mean,
25:14
Speaker 2: I've never missed a car payment, never and AVTAB is
25:19
Speaker 2: in control of way more money than I am, so
25:21
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it was just a
25:24
Speaker 2: people can say, an honest mistake. No, it was once
25:27
Speaker 2: again neglect, just sloppy what I call book keeping. And
25:31
Speaker 2: if you can't even manage your own financial account, then
25:35
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to what I said prior to
25:37
Speaker 2: our conversation. Let's do an entire federal audit on the
25:42
Speaker 2: money since you've been in office, and let's see where
25:45
Speaker 2: the money goes, because this is just a tell tale
25:49
Speaker 2: of the issues and what has been involved since you've
25:52
Speaker 2: been in office.
25:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's obviously paid well in mouth. He should
25:55
Speaker 1: be able to afford a car payment. I don't know
25:57
Speaker 1: what his financial situation is, but embarrassing at minimum. So
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Speaker 1: and again, lame excuse coming out of the gate after that,
26:03
Speaker 1: no follow up either. I haven't heard anybody press them one. Well,
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Speaker 1: did you get any notices? Did they get reach out
26:08
Speaker 1: to you? Your car just was gone one day and
26:11
Speaker 1: you had no idea ahead of time that that might happen.
26:13
Speaker 1: I don't buy that for a minute. Andrew you another
26:16
Speaker 1: one of your rants December fourth, on affordable housing. The
26:20
Speaker 1: Wizard aftab strikes again. What were you ranting on about
26:23
Speaker 1: this one?
26:24
Speaker 2: Andre Hey, I've said he's Deani. He will look you
26:29
Speaker 2: dead in your face and tell you. Public safety was
26:32
Speaker 2: number one, two and three on his list, and I
26:36
Speaker 2: know from a police officer standpoint that it was not.
26:39
Speaker 2: He only came forward on it when he was pushed
26:43
Speaker 2: into a corner. And the Sarah Heringer situation put everyone
26:47
Speaker 2: on blast. And so here we are again with a
26:50
Speaker 2: housing situation. He knew this was going to happen, it
26:53
Speaker 2: was already in place, and if you want to build
26:56
Speaker 2: the housing. And it's interesting that Corey Bowman actually talked
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Speaker 2: about that, how these properties are being placed and built
27:05
Speaker 2: and it's just a setup for say, here's a affordable
27:09
Speaker 2: housing of six hundred a month, but at time when
27:13
Speaker 2: it comes, guess what it's going to raise through the roofs.
27:15
Speaker 2: So what if he say, oh, I had absolutely no clue.
27:19
Speaker 2: I'm just totally upset. Here we go again. You didn't
27:22
Speaker 2: have a clue about your car payment, and now you
27:24
Speaker 2: didn't have a clue about something as serious as property
27:29
Speaker 2: in the City of Cincinnati that has to come across
27:31
Speaker 2: council when your death. I'm not buying it, and the
27:34
Speaker 2: city better start paying attention.
27:35
Speaker 1: Well. One of the things that gave Corey Bowman at
27:37
Speaker 1: least some traction was how the mayor treated the Hyde
27:40
Speaker 1: Park residents in the Bond Hill residence with this connected
27:43
Speaker 1: community's nonsense, this one size fits all. You will build
27:47
Speaker 1: in accordance with these very limited standards, or you're not
27:50
Speaker 1: going to build at all. I mean, how do you
27:51
Speaker 1: expect to achieve afordable housing when you don't give neighborhoods
27:54
Speaker 1: the flexibility. They need to do what they believe in
27:56
Speaker 1: that it is in their best interest. I find that
27:58
Speaker 1: very puzzling.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it is very pleasant. And I've already said affordable
28:03
Speaker 2: housing is a it's a trick to get other things
28:06
Speaker 2: in place. And if you look all across the city,
28:12
Speaker 2: affordable housing is going to be a thing of the past.
28:15
Speaker 2: You you can't you can't even get anything that's affordable
28:19
Speaker 2: nowadays in the neighborhood. So this is going to backfire.
28:25
Speaker 2: I've seen it backfire. I've seen how things operate in
28:28
Speaker 2: this city, and it's going to get worse. I remember,
28:34
Speaker 2: if you can remind me, Brian, what was the uh
28:37
Speaker 2: the train situation downtown that they were trying to promote,
28:42
Speaker 2: and they they voted the city voted it down. But
28:45
Speaker 2: over time it ended up costing the city millions anyway,
28:49
Speaker 2: with the street car, with the streetcar exactly now, when
28:53
Speaker 2: that was going on, let me tell you something, let
28:57
Speaker 2: me tell you something, and this is this is a fact.
28:59
Speaker 2: When that was going on and they said they voted
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Speaker 2: it down, I'm doing details downtown Cincinnati and I'm and
29:06
Speaker 2: they're digging up the streets, And I asked, what project
29:10
Speaker 2: do you have he said, oh, this is the streetcar.
29:12
Speaker 2: I said, well, I was voted down. He said, well,
29:16
Speaker 2: he said, that's above my pay grade. They told us
29:19
Speaker 2: to start digging. It's going to get passed. And guess what,
29:23
Speaker 2: it got passed. And that's a fact. That's not that's
29:25
Speaker 2: not something I'm sitting here making up. You can go
29:28
Speaker 2: back and look at my say details when I was
29:31
Speaker 2: doing as an officer, and that was getting placed in
29:34
Speaker 2: before it was passed.
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Speaker 1: So the rumors that are swirling, and I've heard from
29:39
Speaker 1: quite a few what I consider connected people that they're
29:42
Speaker 1: talking about, at least behind the scenes, a second leg
29:45
Speaker 1: of the street car, even if they deny it, that
29:48
Speaker 1: maybe coming forward at some point, considering the history we've
29:51
Speaker 1: got with the street car here.
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Speaker 2: Andre, Yeah, at this point, Brian, what what is this
29:58
Speaker 2: city doing? I'm telling you this city is in trouble
30:01
Speaker 2: and people better pay attention because even in my past posts,
30:05
Speaker 2: I said, you want Gotham City overall, you're gonna get
30:07
Speaker 2: Gotham City, whether it's the streetcar, whether it's this crazy
30:11
Speaker 2: case going on with Elmwood Jones and theaters and Connie Pillage.
30:17
Speaker 2: This city is on edge and you got the Henderson
30:22
Speaker 2: case coming up next month. I'm telling you right now,
30:26
Speaker 2: brother Brian, this city is on edge, and this is
30:30
Speaker 2: going to be a hot mess New Year's and spring
30:35
Speaker 2: and summer coming up, just get ready.
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Speaker 1: I wish he had more better news on that one,
30:41
Speaker 1: but I can't argue with you on that. Andre. It
30:42
Speaker 1: does appear that things are heading in that direction. On
30:45
Speaker 1: that dismissal that murder case. After all the dispositive evidence
30:49
Speaker 1: and the guilt beyond a reasonable doubt, all the appeals
30:52
Speaker 1: that that guy went through is on death row thirty years,
30:54
Speaker 1: they ultimately dismiss it. Question, do you think Iris Rolly
30:58
Speaker 1: had anything to do with that?
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Speaker 2: I always ask how did em with Jones name even
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Speaker 2: come up? What was the I know they have the
31:12
Speaker 2: innocence projects and they look into evidence or what have you,
31:16
Speaker 2: But how did his name even come up? And what's
31:18
Speaker 2: interesting is, of course Deeters released the letters that was
31:23
Speaker 2: uh uh that signal ninety nine posted as well, and
31:27
Speaker 2: and Deaters has h expressed his outrage and and even
31:32
Speaker 2: the family had expressed their outrage of talking about where
31:38
Speaker 2: they're disappointed. Connie Pillage said, no, they are outraged of this,
31:42
Speaker 2: uh this process. So this go once again now opens
31:46
Speaker 2: the door to investigate everything that Deaters and his investigative
31:52
Speaker 2: team has touched and to see, uh, is there any
31:57
Speaker 2: wrongful convictions, because that's what Connie Pillage clearly said that
32:01
Speaker 2: they said this office got it wrong. And that's a deep,
32:06
Speaker 2: deep statement.
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Speaker 1: Well it is, most notably considering the appellate record. They
32:11
Speaker 1: took it all the way from the state court through
32:12
Speaker 1: the state process and the defendant move over to the
32:15
Speaker 1: federal court and pursued federal processes, and all the courts
32:18
Speaker 1: said no guilty and there was nothing there to even consider.
32:22
Speaker 1: So I don't get this, and that's why it's a
32:25
Speaker 1: big question mark for me. And that's kind of why
32:27
Speaker 1: I threw the irus' early question because who brought this
32:30
Speaker 1: to their attention? And I believe in that project. I
32:32
Speaker 1: don't think a man should be spending a moment time
32:35
Speaker 1: in jail that didn't commit the crime, and let's get
32:37
Speaker 1: him out of jail if he was convicted wrongfully. But
32:38
Speaker 1: in this particular case, they just don't have the facts
32:42
Speaker 1: on that one, at least that's my take on it.
32:43
Speaker 1: Most notably, after what the Supreme Court Justice Dieter said
32:46
Speaker 1: about when he was Hamlin County prosecutor and how the
32:49
Speaker 1: case was prosecuted. Brother Dre Andre Ewing fin him on Facebook.
32:53
Speaker 1: Follow him, you'll love his rants. I appreciate you joining
32:56
Speaker 1: the program today, Andre, and on behalf of my listening audience,
32:59
Speaker 1: Joe Strekker and myself. We all wish you a very
33:02
Speaker 1: very merry Christmas and happy New Year, and I hope
33:04
Speaker 1: we I'm looking forward to talking with you in the
33:06
Speaker 1: coming year, sir.
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Speaker 2: Likewise, Brian, thank you so much. I appreciate you and
33:10
Speaker 2: you have a peaceful and safe holiday. And all the
33:14
Speaker 2: listeners hug and love your family every second that you get.
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Speaker 1: Amen to that, and I'll underscore it and put it
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Speaker 1: in bold and all caps. Take care of brother Jery.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk again soon. It's eight forty nine fifty five.
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Speaker 1: Care se