Latest / Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman / Nancy Thames – Time For Disclosure
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- 0:04My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice. I've always been
- 0:10fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science, and the crossroads at which they
- 0:16meet. Join me now and we will explore these topics and so much more
- 0:21with fascinating guests, authors, and experts who will guide us to Destination Unlimited.
- 0:34Many of us have had contact with extraterrestrial and interdimensional beings. For some,
- 0:42the experience was frightening and traumatic. For others, it was a pleasant
- 0:48learning experience and almost familial. My guest this week on Destination Unlimited, Nancy
- 0:55Thames, has experienced the latter since childhood. Nancy, a former Department of
- 1:00Defense employee and a lifelong contactee of extraterrestrial beings, has emerged as a significant
- 1:07voice in the realm of alien disclosure and spiritual awakening. Her journey, marked
- 1:15by personal struggles, transformed profoundly through her continuous extraterrestrial encounters. She founded and
- 1:22hosts the Facebook site Time for Disclosure. We have never been alone, We
- 1:27are the Disclosure. Her website is Time for Disclosure dot com, and she
- 1:33joins me this week to share her path and contact experiences. Please join me
- 1:40in welcoming to Destination unlimited. Nancy Thames. Welcome Nancy Helen. Nancy.
- 1:47I'm grateful to you for your work manifesting in your Time for Disclosure dot com,
- 1:53the website, and also your Facebook group Time for Disclosure. We have
- 1:57never been alone. We are the Disclosure. Thank you for creating these platforms
- 2:01and allowing those of us in the contactee experiencer community to have a place to
- 2:07share our experiences and learn from one another. So thank you, so much.
- 2:12Thank you. I appreciate that it's been a joy doing it. Absolutely
- 2:17I can understand that. Let's start with your early life and path. What
- 2:23was your upbringing like and how did it shape your understanding of life and the
- 2:28human condition. Well, I've been an experiencer with interdimensional extraterrestrials since birth,
- 2:37but for the longest. The earliest recollection I had was about two years old,
- 2:42three years old, and I would remember them sending three four foot to
- 2:47five foot grays, one bent a female, and they would send them down
- 2:53to get me, and they would escort me to craft. And this has
- 2:57gone on up until the present. And one of them is a female and
- 3:02she is a signed to me, and I've had her all my life,
- 3:06so and I found out that apparently we all have like our assigned guardian or
- 3:14extraterrestrial escort. So she is always with me and we have a fantastic,
- 3:20unbelievable bond with each other. So as I was little, I remember memories
- 3:25of flying up into the sky and flying around, and sometimes they would take
- 3:30me over cities and stuff, and I assume that was extraterrestrial cities, and
- 3:36they would fascinate me and very playful with me and tell me to look down
- 3:42at all my cities and told me I was a little princess and all these
- 3:45little wonderful things. So everything was just like fun. You know, it
- 3:50was a fun time, and they made everything very fun, and they could
- 3:55change scenery and all kinds of things to make it up where I could easily
- 4:00adapt to what was going on around me. As I got older, say
- 4:08around sixth grade up to junior high and right before high school. You know,
- 4:14at this point in my life, I was starting to read books,
- 4:17and I was reading about things like extraterrestrials in space and things like that,
- 4:23and I was watching Star Trek on TV, and you know, so what
- 4:28I was seeing on television and on the media and in books was that,
- 4:33you know, maybe they weren't such the good fellas or good gals that I
- 4:38had always thought. So I began to get very, very scared. So
- 4:42it would get to the point where I would be afraid to get up to
- 4:46even go to the bathroom or even I would just keep covers totally over my
- 4:49head, and sometimes I would try not to sleep because I didn't know if
- 4:55it was a good thing or a bad thing. And when I would try
- 4:59to talk to my family about it, they would just kind of laugh and
- 5:01say, boy, you've got quite an imagination. You just go on back
- 5:05to bed, and you know it's just a bad dream you're having that kind
- 5:11of thing. I'm laughing now because I was also labeled as a child with
- 5:15an overactive imagination. When I shared my experiences with my family, did anyone
- 5:19in your family believe you or have a sense that you were telling them an
- 5:23actual experience. They would listen to what I was saying, but they would
- 5:28dismiss it. My father and I we would have deep, deep chats about
- 5:35the fact that we, you know, he believed that we were not alone
- 5:41in the universe, and we talked about like other beings in other places and
- 5:46things like that, and I was just totally fascinated with these topics, and
- 5:50my mother didn't really like it because that was encouraging me and they were you
- 5:56know, that was she wanted me to not be so interested in these type
- 6:00things. So so you know, I pretty much learned at a very young
- 6:06age. When I say, yay young, I was you know, about
- 6:10junior high, sixth, seventh, eighth grade through there, that you just
- 6:13could not talk about these things with really anybody, you know, not at
- 6:18school, not at churches, not at Girl Scout meetings, you know,
- 6:23just basically nowhere. So I kind of just kept it suppressed for a very
- 6:28very long time, and that was very very hard for me. But as
- 6:32I got older on my own, I started to read more books and I
- 6:40noticed that people though, when I would go to say, books of meeting
- 6:44or someplace, I noticed that in the section where they had these type books
- 6:47UFOs and things of this nature, that a lot of people would try to
- 6:51hide that they were reading or looking at these books. And I thought,
- 6:55wow, this is really crazy. So you know, it was very infusing
- 7:00to me because I was experiencing things, but I really didn't have anybody to
- 7:05talk to, and it seemed like everybody else that was interested was a shame
- 7:10to admit it. So that was very hard. So it was really until
- 7:15I got into my latter twenties and they started giving me more conscious memories.
- 7:24And so when that started happening, I realized, Okay, my life is
- 7:30just a little different than some other people's, and so I began to meditate
- 7:36to them and ask for answers. I wanted to know why me. I
- 7:43wanted to know what was the purpose of this, what kind of agenda is
- 7:47going on? You know, all these questions. So in my twenties,
- 7:56later twenties, kind of middle to late twenties, they took me the Grace
- 8:01the three grades. There's always three. They traveling three, and they came
- 8:05and got me and took me to craft and then I went to see what
- 8:09was a group of elders. And the elders were all humanoids, and they
- 8:16were of different dimensions and of different races, and I don't recall how many
- 8:20of them there were, but there were many. And so I asked them
- 8:26why this was happening to me, and what was the purpose in all these
- 8:33questions? And so they told me that before I was born into becoming a
- 8:37human, that I had agreed to come here and be a part of the
- 8:45human experience at this point in life, for humanity, to help humanity to
- 8:50understand that they've been a lot of misinformation has been fed to them, and
- 8:56also that they wanted me to help humanity to encourage them to work on ascending
- 9:05up in the extension process and to accept the fact that extraterrestrials inter dimensionals are
- 9:13here, that we are not alone in the universe, and they were here
- 9:16to assist us. So at that point I said, well, what do
- 9:22you what do you mean that I made an agreement. So they showed me
- 9:28a vision in front of me, and it was me in a kind of
- 9:31an etheric being state, non physical and I was sitting waiting, and then
- 9:39they came to get me and they led me in and so basically they showed
- 9:43me how my etheric being went into a body and you know, I became
- 9:50as an infant, and that they told me that I would when I come
- 9:56when I awake, that I would not rememb remember any of this, but
- 10:01they would come and see me later on in my life and remind me of
- 10:05these things and helped me to remember and recall, so you know, I
- 10:11said, okay, you know, so I started accepting it and experiencing more
- 10:16conscious memories. So then it was I was around thirties and I was married
- 10:24at the time, and my children were young, and we were on a
- 10:30vacation in Key West and staying at a Marriott all right on the beach,
- 10:35and I woke up because I felt their presence, and I looked up and
- 10:39there were three grades there, but they were not the three that come for
- 10:45me. So I raised up and they came to me, and one pressed
- 10:50me back down in the bed and touched my head and told me this is
- 10:54not about you, and they had me lay down, and I was They
- 10:58put me in a paralysis state, so I could not speak or really move
- 11:03or get up or anything. But I was able to see them coming around,
- 11:09and these little grays, like I said, I had roads on in
- 11:11very high collars, and they came around and got my children and there was
- 11:18no negotiation. They you know, they were on doing their job, and
- 11:24when it comes to emotions that mothers feel, they don't recognize that. So
- 11:30in the long run, I now, I'm glad that I got to see
- 11:33that happen. But at the time, it was very scary, and I
- 11:41was very upset because I didn't get to play a part and experience that with
- 11:45them, because I felt like they needed me. But the next morning,
- 11:48we all went to breakfast together and I asked them if they had had any
- 11:52dreams that they'd like to talk about, and they said no, so they
- 11:56didn't remember any of it. You know, interesting, you and I share
- 12:01so much in common, and I think there's no accident or coincidence that we're
- 12:05having this chat together right now, and we're going to continue our conversation even
- 12:09when the show is over. But I remember being upset when I was around
- 12:13eight years old, running into the closet in my room, sitting at an
- 12:18imaginary console, looking up and saying, take me home. I don't belong
- 12:24here. In doing that, I sensed that this was not my real home
- 12:28and that my real family and my real home was out there. We're visitors
- 12:33here, aren't we. Yep. So whenever I you know, I've had
- 12:39an eventful not always a bet of roses human experience, and whenever I would
- 12:48get then through two divorces, so you know, that's pretty traumatic in itself.
- 12:52So but whenever I would get very traumatized or very very upset. They
- 12:58would come to me and they would say, if this human experience is too
- 13:05much for you, you can always come home. And they told me that
- 13:09more than one time, but it did not resonate with me what they meant
- 13:13by that. So it was really not until my late forties, in my
- 13:20fifties that I realized they were telling me that this was not my home.
- 13:24My real home was back with them. So I pieced it all together and
- 13:31then I asked them and they explained to me that I was an extraterrestrial interdimensional
- 13:37before I came here, and I had agreed to come here and be a
- 13:43part of this extension and disclosure for humanity to know that they're not alone in
- 13:48the universe. And so that was quite shocking to because I always felt like
- 13:58this was my home and I loved him. I have children, and I
- 14:01am a grandmother and I love every bit of that, and I do not
- 14:05I'm nowhere close to wanting to live here, because my mission is not over.
- 14:11In my life here with my children and grandchildren is far from being over.
- 14:16So that kind of has made it to be where I kind of understand
- 14:22things better now about how everything has happened and all these I realize now everything
- 14:28that has happened in my life, good or bad, has been a learning
- 14:33experience for me, and it has made me who I am today. And
- 14:37I'm happier than I've ever been in my whole life because I finally know who
- 14:43I am and what all these things have meant and what it was leading up
- 14:48to. And now I'm proud to say that I'm part of the biggest thing
- 14:52that humanity will ever have happened to them. Nothing like this has ever happened
- 15:00for humanity before. So this is a very pivotal moment for us as far
- 15:05as being a human species, and I'm proud to be a part of it.
- 15:09But one thing else that I never understood is when they would come to
- 15:13get me when I was young, and all the way up until or even
- 15:18to safe in my forties, I would wake up and I would keep my
- 15:24eyes closed because I was fearful, or either they may have told me to
- 15:28keep my eyes closed, you know, But anyway, I would keep my
- 15:33eyes closed, and then I would feel the covers pull off of me,
- 15:37and then my body would vibrate from head to toe to head, back and
- 15:43forth. Quite a few times, and then I would feel my body start
- 15:48to float up. And when I would open my eyes and I looked down
- 15:52at my bed, and I was not there. The bed was empty.
- 15:56So this was a physical thing that was happening to me. And I never
- 16:00understood how in the world they managed to get me through this ceiling, through
- 16:07a door, through a window, and all these different things that they have
- 16:11pulled me through. But now I understand, after years of going through being
- 16:19afraid, and years of being thinking I was nuddy, and all these different
- 16:23things that go through your mind. When I started asking them for more conscious
- 16:29memories, I started to learn more and remember more, and I know now
- 16:36that they were We are three D in a three D world, and what
- 16:40they were doing was changing my vibrational frequency to what their vibrational frequency is.
- 16:47And once they got me to their frequency, that's how they could take me
- 16:52up through the roof and through the ceilings and through walls and windows. Absolutely,
- 16:56it's all about energy and vibration early is the need of literally everything.
- 17:02You know. When I was in first grade, there was a book in
- 17:04the classroom entitled You Will Go to the Moon. That was around nineteen fifty
- 17:08nine. I asked the teacher if I could borrow the book, and she
- 17:12agreed. Two weeks later, she reminded me that this was borrowed and then
- 17:17I had to bring it back and I said, I can't bring it back.
- 17:21And when she asked why, I said, because it's wrong. She
- 17:25said, how do you know it's wrong? I said, because I've been
- 17:27there. This led to my parents being called the school counseling sessions, all
- 17:33of that stuff. Did you ever have a situation like that where people were
- 17:37so incredulous about you that they recommended that you have counseling or anything like that.
- 17:41No, but I've had. I've even written an article, you know,
- 17:47about my experience going to the moon, and I all had a Pladion
- 17:52as the pilot and my little grade female grade. She was with me and
- 17:56the other two that I really they are just they're They're not who I'm bonded
- 18:02with. She is who I'm bonded with. And I just don't call her
- 18:04by any name or anything like that. She's just always there and we The
- 18:11last time I had face to face with her and the interdimensionals was in September
- 18:17of this past past September of this year and my son and I went to
- 18:25Mexico, just Hen and I. But this was all orchestrated by the inner
- 18:30dimensionals. They wanted us both to be there, and they wanted me to
- 18:33experience some things, and my son did experience some things. So my son
- 18:40gets us down there and we go to fly into Mexico City and then we
- 18:48fly over to the state of Waaka, which is at the southern most southern
- 18:55state in Mexico on the Pacific side, and we took a shuttle up to
- 18:59the mountain and it was three hours to go up, and once we got
- 19:03up there, there was nobody spoke English there. We were in a cabin
- 19:08that had no hot water, and the power was off for about half the
- 19:15time, and there was no cel phone coverage and no internet connections whatsoever.
- 19:21But my son had studied up and kind of had us prepared for those kind
- 19:26of things. But what they wanted us to experience there was there was.
- 19:32There was an indigenous tribe there called the zip Attack and they are also known
- 19:37as the people of the Clouds, and they are as old as the Minons
- 19:42and the Incas, and they were right on the verge of extension. And
- 19:48it all fell apart because the younger generation of their populace have decided that they
- 19:56didn't want to maintain the traditions and the culture and learned about the old waves,
- 20:03and so they were leaving the mountain and going down to the cities like
- 20:07Mexico City or even trying to come to the United States or Kinada or Europe
- 20:14because they were fascinated with the idea of the materialistic things and technology. So
- 20:21they basically left their parents and all the older people of their tribe, and
- 20:26all of them are trying to become Americanized or you know what, are get
- 20:33used to. They want to live a land living more luxury type of life.
- 20:41So what they wanted me was to see and experience a beautiful tribe of
- 20:45people who are losing that are is a dying race because technology and materialistic things
- 20:55have pulled them away. And I assume the majority of the lesson there for
- 21:02me to learn was that we are faced with the AI technology now and a
- 21:07lot of people are all ruffled about it, upset. So basically what it
- 21:12tells me is that we can use these things as long as we remember that
- 21:18they are a tool. They are not to replace our values, our cultures.
- 21:25They are not to replace who we are. They are simply a tool
- 21:29and not to allow it to just never just allow it to take over your
- 21:34whole life. That is not the intention. It is the technology is to
- 21:40be a tool. And so they wanted us to understand these things about you
- 21:47know, technology and not losing our values in our cultures and things of this
- 21:51nature. And the other thing that they wanted us to learn. In the
- 21:56forest up there, it's very very and very thick. So they wanted us
- 22:04to experience the fact that when they what they showed me was they took their
- 22:10hands out and spread out wide, and they said everything is alive. And
- 22:15what they meant by that was trees are living beings. Water is a living
- 22:21being, Air is a living being, Plants are a living being. Everything
- 22:26is alive and as a living being, and we are all connected, we
- 22:32are all one. So he told me, they told me that the we
- 22:40could not see in our three D world the trees communicating, in plants communicating,
- 22:47or even animals communicating because of our three D world. But as we
- 22:52evolve and become more intelligent and we ascend, we will start to see things
- 22:59like that. And then, you know, so basically wanted me to understand
- 23:03that everything is alive. And they told me that Earth is a living being,
- 23:08and she is a living being and we need to appreciate her more and
- 23:12take better care of her, and if we were better to her, she
- 23:17could take better care of us. So the next day my son got invited,
- 23:22which was a very rare occurrence, to come to their little to the
- 23:30Zuffauta tribe, to their little clan group, to their little township or whatever
- 23:37you want to call it, village, I guess. So it took him
- 23:41well many hours to get there. They walked to it, and when he
- 23:47got there, they tribesmen, the chief or whatever they call him, came
- 23:52out of the hut in front of my son and threw his arms out and
- 23:56said, everything is alive. Was what exactly what the extraterrestrials had said to
- 24:03us. And the man came out and said the same thing. And so
- 24:07my son spent the whole day in the forests with these three tribe members,
- 24:15and they were teaching him things about nature and things about the forest, and
- 24:21how certain plants grow in families, and that you never take all of the
- 24:26family, you always leave enough for the family to continue to grow, you'd
- 24:32never take it all. So they taught us many, taught him many things,
- 24:37and of course he could not wait to tell me all these things that
- 24:41I wasn't physically able to do, the hikes and stuff that he did.
- 24:45But it was a wonderful, wonderful experience for us, and we learned so
- 24:51much. And that whole trip was orchestrated by them. It was fantastic the
- 24:59wisdom and variance of my guests, Nancy Times Nazi. Please tell our listeners
- 25:03where they can find out more about you and all of this work that you
- 25:06give to the world. Well, I have a website's Time Fordisclosure dot com.
- 25:11I also have a Facebook group called Time for Disclosure dot com. Slash
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- 27:03you by AARP and the end console back on destination Unlimited. My guest this
- 27:15week is Nancy Thims. Nancy, my first remembered contact was when I was
- 27:22five years old, and I described the experience as night school and the beings
- 27:26as my teachers. I was interested in things that a five year old growing
- 27:32up in the nineteen fifties would have absolutely no interest in, such as building
- 27:36radios and electricity. We share the memory that our experiences were positive and always
- 27:41for a higher purpose. Why do some in our community regard these experiences negatively
- 27:48and use the word abduction? Okay? I believe that they've had experiences,
- 27:56and I believe that they had an abductee. It normally has one traumatic experience,
- 28:07and I think that these are done by a lower rim of extraterrestrials.
- 28:15There is a one race of grace. There's many different races of grace.
- 28:19There's over sixty different races of grace and the one race and I believed there
- 28:26from Orion, and that race has worked with our government and they have worked
- 28:34with say, the black Cats are the illuminati, all the people that really
- 28:41don't want to see humanity assent or become more intelligent. They want to keep
- 28:48us dumb down, and they want to play us like little puppets, and
- 28:52you know, and they hold a power over us. So I think that
- 28:57these people have experienced either from that fraction of grays that really doesn't give a
- 29:07hoot about humanity, and or I've also heard that there's some governments people that
- 29:15have posed as extraterrestrials and abductive people because they want to keep humanity fearful.
- 29:25If they keep us in fear, in wars and our media brainwashes, and
- 29:33it keeps us internal all the time, it prevents us from ascending, It
- 29:40keeps us separated. And the main thing that the interdimensionals and the positive ets
- 29:47want from us is to learn we are all connected, we are one.
- 29:52And that's exactly what the other the lower rim extraterrestrials and the black hats and
- 30:00reptilians and all of these that you know that do not wish for humanity to
- 30:07become more intelligent or to become interdimensional. And that's the thing. We have
- 30:11the ability to become interdimensional. We have lots of genetics in our DNA that
- 30:19is suppressed because of all the toxins in our food, our air, our
- 30:25water, so our panal ground is decalcified. It is shrunk because of all
- 30:30these toxins. So once we learn to eat better, think better, we
- 30:37will start to have a better life and we will outgrow these old ways and
- 30:44we will no longer be a puppet to these beings that control us now.
- 30:49So we need to learn to take assistance from the interdimensionals and the good eats,
- 30:56and they will show us how we can live longer and we can enjoy
- 31:02every aspect of our life, from being newborn to juvenile toddler, juvenile team
- 31:10and even in our old age and extend our lives with the right you know,
- 31:15learning to be more positive and trying to be better people, better human
- 31:22beings, and that's what they want to help us with. You had talked
- 31:26about having the experience with your son. For parents of children, young children
- 31:33especially who are expressing what I started expressing in the nineteen fifties as a child
- 31:38and was told that I had an overactive imagination. What advice would you give
- 31:42to parents of children who're reporting experiences of contact. I say, you should
- 31:48listen to your children. You should listen to them, and you know,
- 31:55don't be so judgmental, you know, listen to them children. They understand
- 32:02things sometimes better than adults do because they don't have all the boundaries around them.
- 32:09So I think you should listen. But I do realize that parents get
- 32:15fearful and think that, you know, maybe the child has a imaginary friend
- 32:22or all these different things. But and a lot of times, and you
- 32:25know, I know in my mother and father's generation raising me, you know,
- 32:30to go to a therapist or something was you just didn't do that.
- 32:36But now it seems like it's more it's not so taboo anymore. So you
- 32:40know, I would suggest taking your child to see not a psychiatrist, but
- 32:45just a therapist and let them talk and communicate. Yeah. I have had
- 32:53the experience of contact, but not in the sense of a physical manifestation or
- 32:59an energy manuipist station, but of actually getting guidance that I would hear in
- 33:04my inner thinking, my hearing at various times in my life. A quick
- 33:08example, I was in the Air Force in nineteen seventy five and nineteen seventy
- 33:13six, stationed in Korea, and two things happened while I was there.
- 33:17One morning, this voice, which I've always trusted, said, your mom
- 33:22needs to hear from you back in New York. She has an issue and
- 33:25she needs to hear from you. And I always listened to that voice,
- 33:30especially when it spoke in a calm and reassuring way. And I called,
- 33:35and back in those days they had extension telephones, as you well remember,
- 33:38Yeah, And my mother and sister picked up the phone simultaneously, and I
- 33:44said, Mom, is there anything wrong? And my sister says, oh,
- 33:46my god, how did he find out? And it turned out that
- 33:50she was scheduled for major surgery the next day. And the voice told me
- 33:53to tell her that the operation would be a complete success, she'd have a
- 33:57complete recovery, everything would be fine. To hear those words from me,
- 34:00and obviously that's what transpired. They are amazing. They can do many many
- 34:06things. It's just there are a million years ahead of us in technology and
- 34:15they've been you know, a long long time ago. They went through their
- 34:19evolutionary change in stage where they went through something similar to this, and they've
- 34:23seen other beings in the universe do this. So if we can just bring
- 34:30ourselves to accept we're not alone in the universe and accept them as a friend,
- 34:37as a brother or sister, and they're not going to take over our
- 34:43lives. They just want to assist us and help us. Absolutely. I
- 34:50regard these as not only my teachers, but my family. And you felt
- 34:52the same way about that woman, didn't you, the female all of them.
- 34:55Yeah, yeah, they're my family. Yeah, you consider her like
- 35:00a mom, right, Yeah, because she's been with me since birth.
- 35:04And I figure she was probably with me when I was an inter dimensional I
- 35:07figure, you know, because she was with me there, and you know,
- 35:12this is when I made the agreement to come here. Then you know,
- 35:16she's like, okay with me, you know, to keep up with
- 35:20me down here, you know. So it takes a lot of courage for
- 35:24you and I to do what we're doing, to come out it does and
- 35:28talk about this stuff. And I know that you had mentioned the divorces in
- 35:31your life. Yeah, my first marriage ended in divorce because of my openness
- 35:37and my spiritual change and growth at that time. What would you say to
- 35:40people who are having these experiences and having challenges in their relationships. It's better
- 35:45to be upfront and forward about it all, even if they're not interested some
- 35:53you know, if they this is so complicated, but true. Think sometimes
- 36:00we are in a relationship and at some point it's better that it ends because
- 36:07not everybody. There was nothing wrong with what I was feeling and what I
- 36:14was going through, but that person was not willing or ready to accept those
- 36:19things. So we had to part so that I could continue on and find
- 36:23my way, which sounds really sad. You know, nobody likes to see
- 36:28a relationship, especially with children, for that to happen. But sometimes you
- 36:34have to let go so that you can be fully happy and so that you
- 36:38can understand what these things mean and the greater picture. You know, it's
- 36:45it's hard to look at it when you're when it's happening at the time.
- 36:52So for me, now I can look back and see why it all happened
- 36:55and why it happened the way it did. But at the time, it
- 37:00was very hurtful and it was hard, you know, absolutely professionally, I
- 37:05found it very challenging, especially in my forty two year career in welding technology,
- 37:10compressed gases, industrial guess, and the welding supply equipment, sales,
- 37:15and engineering, to discuss the stuff with customers or co workers. Oh yeah.
- 37:21Tell us what you can about your career with the Department of Defense and
- 37:27whether any of your experiences affected your work with the DoD It had nothing to
- 37:30do with that. That was just some you know. I lived in Australia
- 37:35for five years. That was after a traumatic divorce about I guess that's about
- 37:39as far as a way as you can run from a situation. But I
- 37:44lived in Australia for five years and then I came back and I applied for
- 37:49a job with the Department of Defense, and they chose or put me with
- 37:53the army. So I was a civilian and work for them, and they
- 37:58sent me to Schofiel beare on o Wahoo and so I worked in a dental
- 38:04clinic there and did that for five years. And the reason why I did
- 38:07have a security clearance. But the reason for that is because I was working
- 38:12with the commander of the Pacific Rim and all these generals and all these officers
- 38:20and even just all kinds of soldiers because we were at Schofield, that is
- 38:27where all these young men, a lot of them come from boot camp to
- 38:31there and they are in preparation to get medically and dentally ready to be deployed
- 38:38overseas, and they have to be in good medical shape for at least twenty
- 38:44four months because that won't be able to get any medical or dental work done
- 38:49really much while they're overseas and stuff. So that was why I had their
- 38:52security clerance because of the grade of officers that I was working with. And
- 38:59it had nothing to do with anything to do with weapons or extraterrestrials or anything
- 39:04like that. But you never shared any of that during your time with the
- 39:07DD right, No. I mean occasionally if a pilot or something were to
- 39:12come in I would say something playfully like have you seen anything in the skies
- 39:16or you know or you know things like that, but it was more to
- 39:23take it in a playful manner and just more of a It was never really
- 39:29a serious talk or anything like that. It was more in fun. And
- 39:34did your contact experiences follow you to those places like Australia and Hawaiian? Yes,
- 39:38it did. Yep. You want to share one, well, I
- 39:43mean when I was in Australia, this was a weird experience. I had
- 39:49many in Australia. But I went from living in the city of Brisbane and
- 39:55I didn't really like living in the city and I moved up in these mountains
- 40:01and they were called Mount me and it was beautiful up there. It wasn't
- 40:08very touristy at all. There. It was two hours away from like a
- 40:12grocery store or anywhere to shop, so you had to plan your things accordingly.
- 40:16And I had like a cisterine to collect rain water, didn't have the
- 40:22heating and cooling. I had a fan. And it was again in a
- 40:25cabin that I lived in. And while I was what was incredible is when
- 40:31you look up at the sky, it was amazing because there was no light
- 40:36pollution whatsoever. And I could look down and see the glasshouse mountains on one
- 40:40side, and then I could look down at another way and see the Pacific
- 40:45Ocean, and so it was beautiful and the like I said, the Milky
- 40:52Way, galaxy and the Southern Cross and all these things. And I went
- 40:54to a lot of sky parties and I really got interested with my telescope and
- 41:00things. But anyway, so I continue to have experiences, but wanting particularly.
- 41:07I was by myself and it was early morning, and I felt the
- 41:12covers come off, and then all of a sudden, it was like it
- 41:15was more than just floating up. I felt like I was being kind of
- 41:17spun around, spun around kind of like I don't know, kind of like
- 41:22an aut a body experience or kind of I don't know really what it was.
- 41:28But I ended up on a craft and there were all these humans or
- 41:31either humanoids busily around me, and I was like on an exam table.
- 41:38And then I started becoming conscious and I heard them shuffling around and one of
- 41:44the females saying, send her back, send her back, We cannot touch
- 41:49her. And next thing I knew, I was back in my bed.
- 41:54And so the best that I can figure is that was a rome group of
- 42:02either extraterrestrials or a government department that tried to abdub me. But when they
- 42:10got me in there, they realized that I was at a higher frequency than
- 42:15the normal human and they knew that they'd better send me back and not touch
- 42:20me. Good for them, Good for you, good for you. You
- 42:22know. It was strange. It was very strange, and you know,
- 42:25and I just I was like, what in the world, you know?
- 42:28But now I understand. At the time I didn't really understand. I was
- 42:32in my forties, I didn't really understand it, But now I do understand
- 42:37it. But as far as them, the thing is, I went through
- 42:43menopause in my forties, so none of mine. None of my experience,
- 42:47even that rare occurrence there, I was already I wasn't reproductive anymore, So
- 42:55none of that was for that reason. You know. They may have known
- 42:59that out was a contact ee, and maybe they thought they could they might
- 43:06be able to check me out or something, But then they realized that I
- 43:08was at such a high frequency. The interdimensionals and good ets definitely would have
- 43:15known that happened to me. Yeah, my guest is Nazi Thames. We'll
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- 47:24Radio for Vox Novas the new Voice back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this
- 47:39week is Nancy Thames. Nancy, in the last twelve years, we've witnessed
- 47:45what appears to be the loosening of our government and that of other governments around
- 47:50the world of the tight grip on evidence of both UAPs and extraterrestrial life.
- 47:55What do you think triggered these early steps toward disclosure. The interdimensionals and the
- 48:01good Ets are here. And when they got into our solar system and they
- 48:09pretty much let the lower rim negative extraterrestrials, they warned them to get the
- 48:15heck out of here. And I've seen live feed from the ISS and it
- 48:21was feeds of spacecraft, bunch of them leaving Earth, you know, trying
- 48:29to get out here. Some of them are still here, but not the
- 48:32majority of them. And really and truly, you don't really in the last
- 48:38couple of years, you don't really hear about abductions. Everything of that nature
- 48:44was in the past. You don't really hear of these things happening now.
- 48:49I have heard of cattle mutilations, and I don't think that. I think
- 48:52that is a fraction of the government trying to instill fear in people. But
- 48:58I think, well, they know that the interdimensionals and the good Ets are
- 49:02here. They are here watching us, and they are just silently waiting for
- 49:07humanity to come to terms with the fact that we are not along in the
- 49:13universe. And the government has got there's I'm sure they've given them a timeframe.
- 49:19I've heard that it's been anywhere between now and twenty twenty seven. I
- 49:25kind of think it will be before that. I could be wrong. I
- 49:29do not know everything, and it'll be the first one to tell you I
- 49:31do not know everything. But I do think that they started this off letting
- 49:37out information, but now it seems like they've kind of slowed up, and
- 49:43I think that they're waiting for the James Web Telescope to find something. And
- 49:49if the James Web Telescope finds something that will take the attention off why did
- 49:55you not tell us for seventy something years? And people will be so thrilled
- 50:01about this find, often the universe of a civilization, and they think that
- 50:07we'll take the focus off maybe some of the negative things that they've done.
- 50:12However, that might last for a little while. But there's a lot of
- 50:15people that really want to know a lot of answers to some of these things
- 50:20that have happened. The assassination of JFK. They want answers if it had
- 50:25anything to do with keeping this information suppressed. And there's a lot of other
- 50:30things, a lot of conspiracy theories. We could go on all day about
- 50:36all the things that the people have claimed that the government has hid from us.
- 50:42So I think they know, but they don't really know how to go
- 50:47about telling us that these beings are a million years ahead of us in technology
- 50:57and there's nothing we can do about it. That there might be something that
- 51:01they don't want to admit to other countries, that we are powerless because you
- 51:08know who wants to ommit that to the whole world? You know what I'm
- 51:13saying. Does that make sense? Absolutely? You use the term black hats
- 51:17before, and we've heard the words white hats and black hats in reference to
- 51:22those who have come forward to share disclosure information without naming names or pointing fingers
- 51:28at specific people. Do you sense that there are those who are telling the
- 51:30truth and others who are less than forthcoming. Absolutely, And there are ones
- 51:37that are sincere and that want to see humanity benefit from these things because the
- 51:45government has a lot of technology they have suppressed from us, cures for diseases.
- 51:52The group of people that want to keep us dumb down, they're making
- 51:57so much money off sick humanity. They would not make any money if we
- 52:01were a healthy humanity. So it's at their best interests, not humanity's best
- 52:07interests, that we always are sick and have diseases, and that our foods
- 52:13and toxins in the air. So you know, these all stirr up reasons
- 52:19to have disease and healthy people don't make money. So you know, when
- 52:24I say white hats and black heads, I would say black hats are the
- 52:30negative people that want to keep us dumb down and suppressed and denies of our
- 52:37terrestrial heritage. We all have a little bit of et in us. They
- 52:40had a part in our creation, and they had a part in all of
- 52:47the things on this planet. And that's one thing too that I want to
- 52:52express that we are a very small fraction of what they love about our planet.
- 52:59They love all the things on it. They consider Earth as being of
- 53:02living being, the animals and everything, and if we play around with nuclear
- 53:07weapons, we will destroy all the things on it that they love about our
- 53:14planet, including innocent bystanders, indigenous people that have no clue about these weapons
- 53:21that we are playing with in this technology. So they're trying to get us
- 53:24at this pivotal point to help us so that we don't destroy ourselves in our
- 53:30world. I can't remember a more tenuous time in my life than what we're
- 53:35going through right now we need benevolent intervention, don't we? Oh? Absolutely,
- 53:40And they know it, and and you know, unfortunately it might take
- 53:45something minor happening, not a worldwide event, but a minor little setback to
- 53:52shake governments and shake humanity so that we know and accept that we do need
- 54:00their help and they are here to assist, not do anything else. If
- 54:07you had an audience with all of our sisters and brothers around the world,
- 54:12what would you say to them? We are all connected, we are all
- 54:16one. Always think positive. If you have a negative thought, replace it
- 54:22with two thoughts. The more that we can keep positive energy and positive thoughts
- 54:28in our minds, we vibrate at a higher frequency. And when we vibrate
- 54:31at a higher frecreency everyone around us. It's like it's contagious. They want
- 54:37to be vibrating at that frequency too. They want to feel that feeling.
- 54:42And so we can do this. Humanity can all work together, come together
- 54:46as one, and we can be positive and increase our vibrational frequency. And
- 54:52then when interdimensionals and positive ets look down upon us, they're going to see
- 54:58a bright future of human is ready to become galactic citizens and be live and
- 55:05be better humans, to which I say, Amen, Nancy, my guest,
- 55:09Nancy Thames. Nancy, please share with our listeners where they can find
- 55:13your website and your Facebook page and anything else you'd like to share. Okay,
- 55:17Time for Disclosure dot Com and you can leave messages. You can talk
- 55:22with other people on there on a forum, and then I have the website
- 55:27Time for Disclosure and slash. We have never been alone. We are the
- 55:32Disclosure and you can mix in with other people that have experiences, and it's
- 55:38a place where you can find out information, where you can have meetings to
- 55:43meet other people like you, or you can just stay in the room and
- 55:45just chitchat with people. I monitor it best I can to keep negative people
- 55:52out. I like positive energy, and so I try to keep it a
- 55:57great place, safe place for experience. Absolutely, Nancy, thank you so
- 56:01much for joining us and sharing all of your wisdom and your wonderful thoughts about
- 56:06what we're going through. You're welcome and thank you for joining us on Destination
- 56:12Unlimited. I'm Victor the Voice Furman. Have a wonderful week.