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ALEXX MEDIA - Honey Nut Cheerios Remix · Eating While Broke

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  Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating Wild Broke.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Coley Witt, and today we have very
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  Speaker 1: special guests, Alex Media in the building. Usually I do
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  Speaker 1: not read bios or anything, but this is very short,
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  Speaker 1: but I want you guys to get a full encompass
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  Speaker 1: of what Alex does. So. Alex Media is a filmmaker
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  Speaker 1: and producer recognized for his work across major comedy and
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  Speaker 1: digital platforms. He's a co host of Flagrant Podcasts, which
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  Speaker 1: we all know and love, the director of Andrew Schultz
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  Speaker 1: Netflix special Schultz Saves America, producer on the Brilliant Idiots podcast,
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  Speaker 1: co owner of WTF Studios, where we are today. We
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  Speaker 1: are not in studio, so he will not be cooking
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  Speaker 1: for us, and which is a full service production facility,
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  Speaker 1: which if you've watched any of our remote remote episodes
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  Speaker 1: we always tape at WTF. We don't cheat on him
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  Speaker 1: unless he is overbooked, which today he was slightly overbooked,
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  Speaker 1: very very overbooked, And so I cheated on him for
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  Speaker 1: like a micro one session down the street, and I
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  Speaker 1: came right back to where I belong WTF Always I
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  Speaker 1: forgive it. Yeah, I had no choice.
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  Speaker 2: Forgive, but we fixed that problem. We're adding another space
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  Speaker 2: we did.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm in. You know, I'm going to speak some
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  Speaker 1: other good things into fruition for La too. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we'll see. But anyways, before we get into Alex's story,
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  Speaker 1: we got to know what you and I are going
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  Speaker 1: to be eating today.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So my struggle meal. When I was young, I
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  Speaker 2: had a lot of cereal because I didn't know how
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  Speaker 2: to cook. And to this day, to this day, I
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  Speaker 2: still don't know how to cook.
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  Speaker 1: So you still don't know how to don't know how
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  Speaker 1: to cook? Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I make two things I could do steak like a
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  Speaker 2: nice restaurant sake.
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  Speaker 1: And I love how you added that you could really
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  Speaker 1: do this steak, you know, like not.
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  Speaker 2: Just regular steak, like good stick cut steak. And a
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  Speaker 2: mac and cheese. My mac and cheese. I took my
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  Speaker 2: mom's recipe, I improved it a little bit, and I
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  Speaker 2: make it one time a year Thanksgiving.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, I love how you also semi hated on
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  Speaker 1: your mom in that bit.
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  Speaker 2: No, I mean, I gotta give it a credit. It's
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  Speaker 2: not like I came up with the recipe, but I
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  Speaker 2: took her recipe.
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  Speaker 1: And improved it though. Okay, so not only did you
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  Speaker 1: improve her dish, I'm wondering how Yeah, go ahead open it.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna be eating it. So Alex has a nice
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  Speaker 1: twist to his honey nut cherryos. I have never had this.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, tell tell everybody what we're doing to this honey.
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  Speaker 2: So when I was young, I also like sweets. I
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  Speaker 2: had a problem with sweets up until about a year
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  Speaker 2: ago when I was diagnosed as being pre diabetic. So
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  Speaker 2: now I got I got everything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, diagnosed, I'd be thinking I'm invincible when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to candy. But it's possible.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a problem. It's anything sweet in the house.
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  Speaker 2: It's gone in like five minutes. But now and now
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  Speaker 2: I got it under wrapt. So this might send me,
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  Speaker 2: you know, relas me. But Okaynat, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, he does have it. Okay, the sarment. So we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do the So are you gonna live large tonight? Yeah? Yeah, okay, okay.
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  Speaker 2: So we got the terials and then I would either
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  Speaker 2: add sugar or honey, but the honey. I would steal
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  Speaker 2: the packets from McDonald's cause they would have the honey
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  Speaker 2: packets that you would get. Oh yeah, yeah, but it's
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  Speaker 2: better with the honey, cause honey cheerios. You know, you
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  Speaker 2: gotta stay on bread.
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  Speaker 1: I've never done this, so go ahead.
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  Speaker 2: So you got stay over here. So you gotta lightly
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  Speaker 2: lightly drizzle, but you have to cover all the surface
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  Speaker 2: area and then once you do that, oh yeah, it
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  Speaker 2: don't matter, it's all going the same place.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, nice little circular motion. You gotta cover all
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  Speaker 2: the top. Yeah yah, you should have saw it. You
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  Speaker 2: should have saw my frosted flakes. Yuh, like I used
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  Speaker 2: to cover it and sugar. It's crazy. Also, they're not
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  Speaker 2: gonna be able to hear you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so I didn't know if you were like black
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  Speaker 1: post or whatever, but I was like, you know, what.
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  Speaker 2: Are you wearing a wireless bike?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, they're not gonna be able to.
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  Speaker 1: I forgot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we doing podcasting alright. But then it's very important.
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  Speaker 2: The same way you did that with the honey, you
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  Speaker 2: have to do it with the milk. You have to
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  Speaker 2: pour the milk slow and like cover the honey or
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  Speaker 2: else it's not gonna like break down.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, cause I see it grouping up.
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  Speaker 2: There exactly, So you gotta like that and make sure
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  Speaker 2: you get all the spots.
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  Speaker 1: And when did you come up with this theory?
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  Speaker 2: When when you're a kid you got mad time for.
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  Speaker 1: Someone that doesn't cook, you invested a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but I had a lot of cereals, so I
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  Speaker 2: had taught to you don't change it. I've tried different things.
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  Speaker 1: When was the last time you had this dish?
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  Speaker 2: It's been years? Like cereal, I try to stay away from,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the carbs. Now I'm just high protein, low
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  Speaker 2: carb diet. So this is gonna be a nice low
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  Speaker 2: treat for myself.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a treat. But I want to see,
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  Speaker 1: like how much nostalgia comes from you eating this?
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, this is gonna spike my insulin happily.
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  Speaker 1: But you're pre pre right. Do you have to monitor
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  Speaker 1: your insulin if you're Look how happy he is.
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  Speaker 2: Look at that you got you gotta I'm on now,
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  Speaker 2: come on now, I ain't.
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  Speaker 1: Gonna I purposely tried to get the spoon with the
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  Speaker 1: honey on it. I'm not gonna front. Yo, you live,
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  Speaker 1: you live.
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  Speaker 2: Mm after I do it, my mom's back and you know,
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  Speaker 2: little change make it a little better.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I would totally do that as
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  Speaker 1: an adult moving forward like this is really good.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I would to, and I'm probably gonna do
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  Speaker 2: this when I get home now. Yeah, oh that.
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  Speaker 1: Was good, Yo, that was actually really good, like really good,
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  Speaker 1: impressively good shout outs to. So take me back to
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  Speaker 1: that era. What was going on in the household? What
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  Speaker 1: was the household looking like?
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  Speaker 2: So I grew up in far Rockaway, Queens. It's not
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  Speaker 2: the best. It's probably a low income neighborhood. And my
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  Speaker 2: parents got divorced when I was eleven, so single mom,
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  Speaker 2: household and yeah, so you know, money was always tight.
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  Speaker 2: And I wouldn't say we didn't have food on the table,
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  Speaker 2: but it's just like, as a person who didn't cook,
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  Speaker 2: I would have to wait for my mom to come home,
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  Speaker 2: and she would usually come home late from work and
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  Speaker 2: we would get dinner. But up until then, you got
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  Speaker 2: a fan for myself.
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  Speaker 1: And this was the classic, the og classic. And when
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  Speaker 1: you were getting these honey packers curious, it was like
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  Speaker 1: you going home from school, You like, man, that cheriot
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  Speaker 1: is gonna be hitting different today.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely, And.
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  Speaker 1: So you would go and like grab your little honey
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  Speaker 1: package that along the way I'm literally envisioned because.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like you know, you would stop in McDonald's babies.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes you can get the happy meals. Sometimes you just
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  Speaker 2: you know, steal some ketchup packages. There's some sugar, some money,
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  Speaker 2: whatever you need.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. So single parent, household kind of walk me towards
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  Speaker 1: you becoming an entrepreneur, creator, filmmaker, producer. What is like
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  Speaker 1: the first steps of like tingling in that direction.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, so that came much later in life. I
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  Speaker 2: never knew what I wanted to do, so I'll try
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  Speaker 2: to speed through it because I've lived a lot of lives.
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  Speaker 2: Like you know, back when I was younger, I was
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  Speaker 2: kind of, you know, a knucklehead, like getting into dumb shit,
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  Speaker 2: gang stuff, selling drugs, that type of bullshit. And then
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  Speaker 2: but I also got straight a's in school, so it's
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  Speaker 2: like I kind of like lived the double life. I
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  Speaker 2: was like a nerd when I go to school and
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  Speaker 2: then I come home and hang out with gangsters. So
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  Speaker 2: it was just like I always just got experience to
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  Speaker 2: a lot and not sure what I actually wanted to do.
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  Speaker 2: Fast forward to when I started working, Like you know,
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  Speaker 2: I was because I was an entrepreneur with you know,
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  Speaker 2: drug stuff. I just always wanted to make money. So
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  Speaker 2: it's like, even throughout high school, I was working, so
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  Speaker 2: I would leave school. I had a part time job
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  Speaker 2: at like kmart cafe or whatever, and then I got
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  Speaker 2: a sales job. I didn't like that, but I was
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  Speaker 2: making good money, like for some reason on telemarketing and
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  Speaker 2: I could I could sell some cable.
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  Speaker 1: So did you do you know if you liked the
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  Speaker 1: idea of making money more or did you like what
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  Speaker 1: you could do with the money more?
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  Speaker 2: What I can do with the money. I like the freedom.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so you liked what you could buy with the
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  Speaker 1: money or the freedom to do.
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  Speaker 2: To do stuff that I wanted to do. Yeah, Because
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  Speaker 2: it's like I lived in far Rockaway, which is like
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  Speaker 2: about maybe like almost an hour and a half two
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  Speaker 2: hour drive from Manhattan, but I would like to come
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  Speaker 2: into Manhattan. So I hated that train ride, and so
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  Speaker 2: I wanted a car. So in like sixteen, I was
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  Speaker 2: able to buy myself a car. Yeah, an entrepreneur. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: So I was like driving into the city, driving all
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  Speaker 2: my friends and stuff like that, getting into a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of trouble, but you know, yeah, and what.
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  Speaker 1: Was your mom feeling about your entrepreneurial ways in the
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  Speaker 1: fact that you could manage money.
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  Speaker 2: She never knew what you never knew?
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  Speaker 1: So how did you get a car without her? Like figures?
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  Speaker 2: I had a job, like I had the Kmart cafe.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so you had got it so very smart. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So and she didn't catch on when you buy a car.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, she didn't like the people I hung out with,
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  Speaker 2: but like you know, I was. I didn't get in
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  Speaker 2: trouble and I was get good grades and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: So only child, No, I have an older sistant.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, so you're doing your entrepreneur thing. What's
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  Speaker 1: your first big legit entrepreneur play.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like this studio is the one. Yeah, because
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  Speaker 2: it's like I didn't know what I wanted to do
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  Speaker 2: in life. I just knew that I wanted to be
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  Speaker 2: happy doing whatever I did. So it's like I went
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  Speaker 2: to college. I studied psychology at first, didn't want to
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  Speaker 2: do that. Then I switched over to nursing. I actually
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  Speaker 2: went to nursing school. I'm a graduated r N took
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  Speaker 2: my end collects. I could be a nurse if I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to, but now things expired. At this point I
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  Speaker 2: didn't like nursing. Then I went to law enforcement. I
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  Speaker 2: became a court officer here at Manhattan Supreme Criminal Court.
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  Speaker 2: I did that for about three and a half years,
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  Speaker 2: and then the editing thing was just fun. Like I
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  Speaker 2: used to just do that, a fun little thing on
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  Speaker 2: the side, where it's like me and my friends, we
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  Speaker 2: would like go on vacations and I would tell all
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  Speaker 2: of them, yo, send me a picture, send me your videos,
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  Speaker 2: and now I would just like edit it together and
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  Speaker 2: make us like a little promo real just so we
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  Speaker 2: could throw it on MySpace or something like that. And
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  Speaker 2: so I enjoyed doing that. I didn't know that was
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  Speaker 2: necessarily a job. So then I just started to reach
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  Speaker 2: out to people I liked and I admired. I liked
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  Speaker 2: hip hop, and I liked comedy. And at the time,
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  Speaker 2: Sipha Sounds he was DJ at Hot ninety seven, and
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  Speaker 2: then he also was starting to do stand up, so
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  Speaker 2: like I reached out to him initially because I was like, oh, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I see you're pivoting to do, you know, stand up?
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  Speaker 2: Is there any additional way I could help you? I
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  Speaker 2: just offered help.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, And that was like a DM.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just a cold DM. And so I started following
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  Speaker 2: him and first time ever picking up a camera, but
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  Speaker 2: I just lied and said like, oh yeah, I know
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  Speaker 2: how to use the camera and shit like that. I
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  Speaker 2: just borrowed my friend's camera and was following him on
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  Speaker 2: DJ sets, and then I would also film him doing
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  Speaker 2: like a little bit of stand up and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: And from there I kind of just like got better
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  Speaker 2: at it and then met more people within an industry.
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  Speaker 2: So then I met Andrew, and I started working alongside
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  Speaker 2: with Andrew, and that around the time I met him
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  Speaker 2: was when I was a court officer, so I was
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  Speaker 2: like doing my court officer job. But then also I
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  Speaker 2: would leave during my lunch break and film brilliant adiosts.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So I would have it because they the iHeart
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  Speaker 2: building was like right across the street, so I would
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  Speaker 2: like just take off my fucking vest and I would
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  Speaker 2: still be in my uniform and shit and a runover
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  Speaker 2: set up the cameras film brilliant Idiots run back. So
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  Speaker 2: many times I got in trouble because I would come
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  Speaker 2: back late from filming and.
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  Speaker 1: You would have to be very Oh you said you
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  Speaker 1: would be.
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  Speaker 2: Late, yeaheah, I would be. I got in trouble quite
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  Speaker 2: a bit.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, so you're doing this, At what point do
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  Speaker 1: you start to say I'm making money doing this.
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  Speaker 2: It got to a point where I just couldn't do both. So,
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  Speaker 2: like I got good to the fact that a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people were requesting my services and I just didn't
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  Speaker 2: have enough time. And then like Andrew took me aside.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, yo, I need a full time videographer. And
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  Speaker 2: it's like Pete gave me an amount and it was
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  Speaker 2: more than I was making at the time from the
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  Speaker 2: court office job. And so I just left that.
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  Speaker 1: Now, backtrack, before Andrew did that, how were you able
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  Speaker 1: to set your rates? That had to been a process
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  Speaker 1: for you too, right, that.
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  Speaker 2: Was super difficult. Like I even to this day, like
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  Speaker 2: I got an assistant or manager just because I don't
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  Speaker 2: like to have those, So it was like whatever they offered.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, the time you had started, you had started
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  Speaker 1: doing it pro bono, right yeah. Yeah, and then like.
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  Speaker 2: I wasn't even get paid. I don't think I didn't
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  Speaker 2: get paid until probably working with Andrew.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, shout outs to Andrew.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, so sometimes white Man's good. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So okay, so you're doing so you go full time
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  Speaker 1: with Andrew, but you're still doing side stuff. I can't
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  Speaker 1: imagine to go one hundred percent like.
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  Speaker 2: Some things as favors, like I'm doing it, you know,
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  Speaker 2: just because I admire or like the people's work, like
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  Speaker 2: sometimes they would hit me off or something, but it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't significant to leave my job type money.
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  Speaker 1: So you were doing like more BTS for Andrew. When
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  Speaker 1: do you start doing get the special or was the
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  Speaker 1: special part of the package?
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  Speaker 2: No, So when he brought me on to do full time,
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  Speaker 2: that meant I followed him everywhere. So every single weekend
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  Speaker 2: he was on the road doing I filmed every single
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: show and then I would edit the show down and
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: we would find clips that we can post because he
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: was one of the first comics to post a joke
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  Speaker 2: a week like nobody else was doing that because it's
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  Speaker 2: like they tore that same material. They don't want to
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  Speaker 2: burn it. But he's like a genius when it comes
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  Speaker 2: to comedy, and his crowd work is like unbelievable, So
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  Speaker 2: we can use those crowd work moments because those are
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  Speaker 2: you know, once in a it's only going to happen
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  Speaker 2: that moment, so you can burn those. And so I
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  Speaker 2: was filming. I was filming and editing Brilliant Idiots Flagrant,
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  Speaker 2: following him on the road every weekend editing his stand up.
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  Speaker 2: We were also doing another like vlog series and stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that. So I was pumping out at one time
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  Speaker 2: six hours of original content. Wow per week like filming editing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're also getting to travel on all this,
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  Speaker 1: So I had like all these amazing perks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, amazing. Yeah, I've seen all of America, even
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  Speaker 2: the not so fun parts, go to America, I've seen
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  Speaker 2: it all. And then traveled the world with him. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was dope.
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  Speaker 1: And then how did you end up meeting him?
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  Speaker 2: I think through Cyphus Sounds. He was a guest on
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  Speaker 2: Cypher's podcast at the time. And then, funny enough, my
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  Speaker 2: name's not actually Alex. I just chose a fake name
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  Speaker 2: because I was in law enforcement and I didn't want
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  Speaker 2: to get whatever I was doing outside to like get
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  Speaker 2: me in any trouble, and so I chose a random name,
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  Speaker 2: Alex Anderson. Just so happens, Andrew knows some comic named
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  Speaker 2: Alex Anderson. So when I reached out to him via DM,
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: he thought he was talking to that other person that
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: whole time for about like four months. So we were
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: going back and forth, and he used to do this
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: thing where he's like, oh, thought of the thought of
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  Speaker 2: the day or something like that. He would just like
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: walk around notice something and like film a front facing
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: video just to his ig stories of like funny take
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: on that thing. Every day I would grab it, edit it,
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: send it back to him and like, oh what do
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  Speaker 2: you think of This just annoyed him for about like
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  Speaker 2: maybe two months doing that shit, and he would like respond,
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  Speaker 2: He's like, oh I like it, Oh tweak this, But
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  Speaker 2: then he would never post it. I'm like, why are
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: you doing this? You're never going to use the fucking ship,
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: but you like it. He thought he was talking to
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: his friend that holds up.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's why he wasn't posting it.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. So then when we finally met
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: in person on Seipha's podcast, I was like, oh, yeah,
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: I'm Alex. You've been talking to He's like, so we
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: just have a funny laugh after that, and then he
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: was like, oh shit, I know, like this is what
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: you do.
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: And so then he was like all them times, these
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: videos I could have been using it. That's incredible. I
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: think a lot of people think money, money, money, But
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: it's just funny how like indirectly you pursuing like a
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: passion project ended up, you know, redirecting your past.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I just never like to do anything I don't
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: want to do, and I've been blessed enough where i
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: haven't had to do it for that long. So like jobs,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: I didn't like it, I just wouldn't stay very long.
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well you pivoted out really really. Wait, I learned
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: that about waitressing and fast food when I was like
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: a teenager. I said, oh, these are two industries you
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: can't be and I knew right away. I said, you
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: have to you have to be successful at something because
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: this right here is not your thing.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But and like court officer was like a glorified
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: security guard and no offense to the job. But it's
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: like it was just so boring, Like it's like I'm
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: just literally standing there telling people shut up, take your
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: hat off, quiet down, like for eight hours.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine you're doing that.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: Gotta send us like a throwback pick though.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think I still got one up on
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: my Instagram scrollback.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, so then at what point does so you're you're
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: growing with Flavorant. Now Flavorant are you a founding member
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: of Flagrant?
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: So I started it with them, but I only started
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: as production.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'd end up on the other side.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: It was honestly, I just got close with the guys
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: because I would see him so often and we would
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: have great banter. So I have extreme stage right, Like,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: if you put me in front of a group of
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: people ask me to talk, I'm gonna have a panic
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: at Like, I don't like it. I don't like attention,
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: even this is low whatever, but I've gotten better at it.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: So they just noticed, or I guess they saw something
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: in me where it's like, oh, you know, like he
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: has good things to offer to the show. So they
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: just added a mic in the room. So even though
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: I'm behind the cameras, they just had given me my
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: own mic. So if I added anything to the conversation, like,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: feel free to do it. And so it was just
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: like a slow roll into it to the point where
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: it's like I became a voice on the show. And
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: then yeah, and then Andrew was just like, yo, it's time.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Stop stop hiding.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah time, I love that.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love your guys. Dynamic. I feel like he's
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: definitely like one believes in you and just keeps throwing like, oh.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's an awesome guy. He's misunderstood to a lot
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: of people, but he's he's an awesome person.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: He means well, I can see that.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: I don't know though, but I can see it. I
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: can see you know, you could tell a lot of
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: about people by like who they surround themselves with. And
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: he's surrounded with Charlemagne and everybody. You're like, okay, you good,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: good people good. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: gotta give it. So where does WTF end up coming in?
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: Okay? So then so I'm working for him full time
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: where traveling, and then the pandemic happens, and so now
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: half of my work is cut because we can all
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: longer travel, he can't do shows, and so I'm like,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: oh shit, this is a big monetary hit. Yeah, and
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I'm like I need to come up with, you know,
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: something else, another revenue stream and then something that's like
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: COVID proof. So this like this came to me where
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: it's like, hey, working with him, I've had to figure
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: out how to do everything because we would just shoot
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: stuff guerrilla style where it's just like, hey, we're gonna
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: do a commercial shoot, we need this is this figure
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: it out? And so then I had to learn lights,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I had to learn audio, I had to learn camera.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: I had to learn editing and how you learn YouTube
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: and stuff YouTube. Yeah, YouTube University for the most part,
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: and just trial and error. I definitely made some mistakes.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: Document the mistakes of like me fucking up audio and
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: past episodes of Flagrant and just like not just missing something,
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: or like if a power line is touching an audio line,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: you get this little buzzing in Yeah.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: We had that at our studios. It is we'd be like,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: unplug everything.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: The power line is touching an audio line, you get
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: a buzz.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: And mother, that's what you just cured. So many problems
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: for our studio right now. They'd be like, RACOLLI replace
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: the XLRS. Replace it. I'm like, yo, I don't think
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: it's the XLRS. They just don't just wake up one
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: day and say we're expired.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: You know, a lot of it was just trialing error
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: and then I just got good. And so the idea
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: was like, hey, I been We've had to shoot our
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: podcast at so many studios that were shiit like really
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: just like bad customer service, poor conditions. I can do
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: this better, and so I basically emptied out my savings,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: took out a little business loan, and I first spoke
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: about the I spoke about the idea with Weezy because, like,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: Weezy's like one of my best friends.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Let me just tell you I'm not gay or anything,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: but if I had like a choice to be gay,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Weezy would be my number one.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: I mean she's by though, you know what.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like if God forbid, like it would never happen,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: like one hundred percent would never happen. You're straight all
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the way. But like if someone was like, you have
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: to Weezy personality, Weezy on everything. Personality of course supersedes
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: her looks. Honestly, Weezy would be my number one.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: She's my best tie. But that ship out of it,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I could like was.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: She was my favorite episode of Eating While Broke and
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: we've done five seasons. There's another girl that now rivals her,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: but Weezy. If people would be like, who's your favorite episode,
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, Wheezy, Wheezy's my fuck favorite.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: Hopefully this hope, but probably not your story.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: He has stories, yeah, like stalkers and ship like I
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: had so many problems after her episode.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh really bad. Oh yeah that we
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: have a bad stalker guy and yeah, talk about it.
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: But no, so I wanted to hear this, this story
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: about how you and weazy so you hit up wheezy.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, And this is funny that we're having this
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: conversation now because I was talking with this comic last
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: night Alex Babbitt, funny guy, and we were like it
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: was like a therapy session. He's like, you know, why
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: do you think you have this stage fright or whatever?
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: And it's like I couldn't figure it out. And eventually,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: long story short, we got to the point is I'm
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: afraid of failing, and then I'm afraid of failing in
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: front of people. That makes it worse. So it's like, wow,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: that's deep.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: That was all in want.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, like we we was going in it
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: and I really think that's the thing. It's like I
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: don't like to fail, Like I like to do things
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: that I feel confident or passionate about because then I
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: put my effort into it, and talking in front of people,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: I don't feel confidence, so I never attempt to do it,
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: and it makes it even scarier because I'm like, oh,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: I'm going to fuck up and say something wrong in
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: front of people.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: And then it's like, yeah, So I remember the first
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: time I met you, like four years ago, you did
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: seem very shy.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I don't even know how we did it. I think
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I said something to you. Maybe you're promoting WTF. But
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: I got your number, but you were very shy. I
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: was shy to at the time, but you were shy.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: I'm still shy now. I just I've gotten a bit more,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: especially being in front of the camera a bit more
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: with Flagrant. I've gotten a little bit more comfortable. But yeah,
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: I'm still the shy, introvert guy that liked to just
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: be behind the computer screen. That's my comfort zone.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, So take us back to you and weezy.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, So we were drunk on a beach. I tell
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: her about the idea. I only feel comfortable telling her.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know why. I guess I'm just comfortable enough
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: with her. And I knew that because she works in
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: the industry, she would have like ideas that can make
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: this thing better. And then I'm like, you know what,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I'm afraid of not being able to do this shit,
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Come and do it with me, and so I really
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: just like I need you to help me, like make
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: this dream come true because I don't think I have
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: the capability to do it myself.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, and that's what you said to.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Her, Yeah, something, But we were talking to Beach, so
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: probably it wasn't as.
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: It's interesting that you said that because you're the one
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: that had the idea, you had the the seed in you.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you had and you clearly were going
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: to go on this track, but you just wanted a
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: partner to Yeah.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: And then also it's like she has so many like
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: qualities that I lack, like being able to just put
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: yourself out there and out going, like she's great with promotion, marketing,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: all that type of stuff. Me I I just want
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: to be the guy who connects a bunch of cameras
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: and lights and hope, you know, we can get a
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: good picture on screen and fill.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: The space, right yeah. Yeah. Because also it's a significant
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: investment if you started in New York, right, Oh yeah,
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: it's versus La La La. There's some negotiations, but New
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: York is definitely.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's rough, but yeah, we and it was just
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: an ideal during COVID.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so then what's your next play? After that?
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: It was just perfect timing because it's like COVID, everybody's
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: home podcast boom is happening, so now everybody wants to
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: get into podcasting. So it took off after the first studio,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: like within six months, we needed a second one, and
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: now we're like up to five in New York. And
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: then we have one.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: We're five in New York. Yeah, how how could I
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: not get an extra studio?
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Five in New York?
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Where are the other locations?
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: So it's like each set I would consider one, so
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: this will count. And then Midtown we have two and now.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah that's right, Okay, yes, you're right.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: And then we just got another space in Midtown opening up.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: And this one, I like, I tried something new, so
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: you know, like a white psych or like a white wall.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: It looks like just an infinity room, So I just
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: built that inside of a studio.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: And then I have it like all set up for podcasting, commercials,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: all that stuff. And I'm excited about this because white
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Sykes you usually have to pay per thing so it's
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: like you can rent the space, but then you have
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: to pay extra for lights, you have to pay extra
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: for cameras, extra for audio. By the time you do that,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: it's like maybe one thousand dollars for an hour. I'm
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: gonna do the same thing but offer it at like
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: four hundred dolls. So I'm just gonna undercut the whole industry.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: And now you're probably.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna be like, what app was it?
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I what is it?
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Steve?
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: When they used to steal Yeah, yeah, iTunes or whatever,
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: You're like, you're gonna do it again, but in video
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: and audio. I like that. Yeah. I used to always
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: wonder though, because you guys have such big, big names.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: This is probably messed to ask on camera. But you
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: have so many you have people like my company that's
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: very small, and then you have some big talent right
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: that comes in. Do they all end up paying the
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: same price?
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was a thing that you know, I
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: wouldn't say we argued about, but we definitely went back
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: and forth, and I was like, you know, I want
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: to keep prices down because I definitely want our people
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: to be able to, you know, use the studio and yeah,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Like I just wanted accessible for everybody, and I think
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: that's part of why we're so busy. It's because, yeah,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: it's affordable. I should rent this out for a lot more.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: But I want everybody to be able to And I
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: personally feel good that It's like I'm providing a space
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: for people to, you know, try to do something and
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: if they take if their show takes off, it's like
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: that shit started here. It's like dope. And I've had
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: a lot of success stories of people signing pretty big
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: deals after they started here.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Oh please let that. Yeah, even though I was very lucky,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: I did a similar thing with Dolly at La La
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: So I had told her during pandemic, I was doing
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: a legal activity with weed or whatever. Yeah, her my
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: company like crashed and burned, like personally of COVID, Like
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I had an events company that was like the second
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: the NBA canceled, it was over. So I was doing
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: like terrible stuff. We lost a crazy amount of money.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Don't even like thinking about it. But I also followed
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: SBA loans, so I'm still paying board. But anyways, I
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: had called Dolly and I was like, I want to
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: do the show eating while broke but I had been
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: out the industry for like ten years, and I was like, yo,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: you're still doing walling out this now? Mind you. Nick
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: was also getting canceled for wilding out at the time,
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: for the jew comments whatever, So I call her up like, yo,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if I have industry contacts anymore. Whatever,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: fuck with me for real. So since you just left
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: walling out and you probably had more plugs, you come
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: on board eating while broke this idea, I have, not
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: knowing that Charlemagne was like within six months of that
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: conversation making her president of Black effect to which on
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: a call, you know, and you see the snowball effect
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: of like right place, right time. But I went I
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: do the same thing kind of that you went through
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: with Wheezy, where it was like, look, I may have
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: a negative part. And I'm also shy about the fact
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: that I had been out the game so long and
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: then to come back and be like, hey, I want
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: to do this show. And by the way, guys, I'm
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: gonna be on the other side of the camera that
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: you would never expect me to be on. So you know,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: it's nobody had faith I could do it or whatever.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Was it scary for you.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: It was mainly scary because Dolly was like, Yo, we
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: should have pretty V doing and I was like, I
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: like pretty V. But this show needs to be real stories,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: like it can't be gimmicky. We're not making fun of
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: this place. We're inspiring from this place. Yeah, and so
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I was like, it's gonna have to be me and
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I been I was pregnant and Dolly was like absolute,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: not only are you going to first time, but you're
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: gonna be pregnant. I was like, Cardi B's rapping on
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: stage right now with a belly, Like I'm thank God
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: for Cardi B. And she flew in and was like,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: we're gonna see if you can do this. And that
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: was scary because Dolly showed up and I was like,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: scare And then she said right after I was done,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: she was like, this is you. This is where you're
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: supposed to be at and I was like what and
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: she was like you you can stay.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Oh that's awesome, And I was like, yeah, that's awesome.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: I'm about to embark on that journey as well. So
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: it's like now my next move, I'm working on a
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: show for myself. Yeah. So it's like we all see
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: the discourse online. It's like it's so polarizing, and so
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: this side versus that side, and it's like everybody's in
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: their echo chambers and stuff like that, and I don't
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: feel that's a good representation of what people really are.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: And so this show it's like a play on old
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: school radio where it's just like you know, the call
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: in radio. You have a topic and then everybody calls
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: and tells us how they feel about it. But now
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: it's like my new age take to it is you
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: have to show your face, so there's no hiding behind everything.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: It's all video call So it's a live show, a
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: live show.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Every live show live.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: So I do it on YouTube every Sunday eleven o'clock
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: and then if you want to call in, you have
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: to sign up to a Patreon. So it's like I
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: want you to be invested if you actually want to,
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: you know, give your take or whatever. But everybody can
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: watch your free It's but it's so fun.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: I get you already started it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been like doing practice episodes. So here's another thing.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Afraid to fail. I've been doing practice episodes maybe like
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: a couple of months now, and it's like the show
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: is rated. I think it's amazing, and I'm just so
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: nervous to like announce it publicly. And here's probably the
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: first place that I'm talking about it publicly right now.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: And so I'm nervous in this book.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Oh when you let me know when the weeks we
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: sign it.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: But it's called A m Mornings, I probably should see.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: It's crazy with all your success that you still have
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: this bug in you.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I like just doing stuff new and that
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: excites me. If if I don't, if I'm not excited,
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: or if I don't want to do anything, I have
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: the luxury that I don't have to do it.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: No, the bug I was talking about is that fair? Bud?
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: Oh? The fair?
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Because you would think you would think that with all
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: your leads, you would say, okay, you don't have the fear,
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: especially even now that you've been on the other side
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: of the couch, you've been on the flagrant that you've
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: been on this side, right, Yeah, but you still have
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: that like scared to release fear of failure in front
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: of people.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, so flagrant. It's an easier lift for me because
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: it's almost like I can imagine the cameras aren't there,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: and I'm just talking with my friends that I've been
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: friends with over ten years now, and also Andrew and Akosh.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: They're the big stars, like they drive the show. Like
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I'm kind of there, you know, supplementary to them driving
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: the show, and so I don't feel that I have
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: to drive it. So it's like a lot less pressure
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: on me. This one. It's like, oh shit, I'm doing
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: a show. I'm the host. And it's like, so that's
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: why it's it's nerve racking.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Where do you tape your show up?
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: At my studio?
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Here?
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: The Midtown one. Okay, you should see the new set.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: The new set is Oh, I gotta go see. I
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: want to try and see it before I least the white.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: Cycle and I have another side that looks so dope. Yeah.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: I just each set, I just keep making better. I
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: love it.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I love it well, I love it all right. So
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I was so you and Weezy. I thought you guys
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: had met through horrible, but it sounds like you guys
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: had a long.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: Oh no, we actually we met through horrible. Yeah. I
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: met her because she was trying to get signed with
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: loud Speaker, which Brilliant Idiots is also under it's owned
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: by like Chris Murrow, and so I just bumped into
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: her and Mandy when they were like waiting to have
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: a meeting and they were talking with other people about
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: their show. So I'm just like overhearing, I was like,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: oh shit, the concept this is fire, Like I can
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: spot good content. And at the time, they were only
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: doing audio, and I was like, guys, this has to
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: be video, Like you have to add the video component.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: And they were like, well, you know, one money time
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: all that type of stuff. I was like, you have
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: to do video. Let me provide video for you. And
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: the first couple months I was working for him, I
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: was barely getting paid. So that's one of those things
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: where it's like even at the time I was doing jobs,
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: I was doing that for free or I think maybe
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I was getting fifty dollars some low amount. But yeah.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: But then at some point video to their show and
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: then their show like four x stoor like four hundred
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: x some.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Crazy number of course, because now you have the beautiful faces.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, people need to know that.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: What I thought was interesting and I thought about this
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: with your story was at some point you guys separate,
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I think what I saw from it
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: as an outsider was like you established your worth, right,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: you established the value you bring and then there was
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: obviously a disagreement, whether it was pay or or whatever.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: I asked for fifty.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Dollars fifty dollars more. I love that you did it
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: and risk walking away because I think sometimes that triples
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: your value where people go. You could try to head
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: your bets with someone that costs less, but are they
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: gonna one care about it? Are they going to have
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: enough integrity to really care about the end product, which
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: you always do, Like even in my studio, we don't
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: have these cameras. You know what I'm saying. These cameras
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: are like ten times what you even know.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: I like detail out like quality.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but I think that it said a lot
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: when you walked because it also showed that they it developed,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: like we need him right and did you see that?
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: I did see it, and you know not, you know,
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: there's still my friend. But it's funny because you know,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: after I stepped away, they were the show didn't look
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: as good. But yeah, but they figured it out, they
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: rebound it. They're great there. I'm actually working back with
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: them now. But now I'm there creative director instead of
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: the producer. Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, but yeah, like and
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: I guess it's just just how I operate, Like I
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: go by energy. If something feels good, I stay there.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: If it doesn't feel good out Okay, I've never been
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: afraid to leave something.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Do you think the fear of I wouldn't. I don't know.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Obviously you had your therapy session. You're saying, but you
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: say fear of failure as an entrepreneur at this point,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: do you really categorize it as like a fear of failure.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I can't understand the fear of failure in front of others.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: I get that, I get that, but the fear of
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: failure as an entrepreneur if you've succeeded so.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: Much, I mean, this ship could stop any moment. Like
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: I never feel like I did it, you know, because
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: it's like, hey, what if people just stop wanting the podcast?
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm kind of fucked. But yeah, like I
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: I think doing it, I'm more it's less fear for
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: me to try other like entrepreneurial you know, task like
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: I I can start a business. I probably have seven
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: businesses right now.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Awesome, that's pretty good though, it's really good. It's good
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: at juggling and delegating. Yes, So what were what would
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: what would you say are the key things that keep
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: you on top of the surfboard?
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: First would say, if you're with someone, have an amazing partner.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: My fiance is phenomenal. She makes me a better person,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: so that's great. And then your team, Like I have
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: a great assistant, he keeps me. He's probably the person
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: you've been talking to in emails because I just give
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: a passwords yeah Texas VI Texas.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: But if you're talking in emails, it's not me most
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: of the time. But yeah, And it's just like, yeah,
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: just have a good team around you and surround yourself
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: with good people, good energy, like the same way. I've
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: learned so much from Charlotte and Andrew. They've had the
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: same good people around them like for the longest and
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: that's part of their success. And so I just I
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: see them do something and it works. I'm same.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: What about cash flow and budgeting money stuff?
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: So I've had to learn that because coming out of
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: the regular corporate American world, it was like, you know,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: you have a guarantee check whatever the case is. The
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: taxes get taken out and all that stuff. I remember
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: the first year where I was officially like working as
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: a contractor and not like a nine to five. I
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: wasn't putting money away for taxes, and then that first
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: tax bill, I was like, oh shit, like that was
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: a shock. Gotten a lot better at that now, but yeah, like,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: thankfully this studio is working. Thankfully, Flagrance doing phenomenal where
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty comfortable and like now I'm able to like
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: have a little fun because it's like before it was
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: just for ten years straight, I just had my head
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: down and I was working.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: But how do you balance the cash flow and the
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: growth of the companies with employees and payroll and all that.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: So with we have like team that does all the accounting,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: payroll and all that stuff. But another thing I'm really
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: proud about at WTF, like we pay more than everybody.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Like I've I wouldn't say recruited people, but there'd be
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: people that worked at other podcast studios that came here
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: and they're like, holy should I make double working there?
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: And it's like I have some engineers that made six figures. Wow, Yeah,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: that's so amazing. Yeah, And like in New York you
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: need to make some money to survive in this state.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: But yeah, we just luckily with the success of the
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: first one first studio. I mean we've I haven't had
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: to like get any outside money, any outside funding. We
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: just paid off the studio, made more money, opened another
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: studio with that money, and so we're just doing it slow.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: If we were to get like a investor, we can
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: probably open up ten studios tomorrow. But I like it
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: going out of space.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, stay still, yeah, okay, well, where can everybody keep
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: up everything Alex? Which, by the way, I I've always
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: liked Alex. I like this extra X on it. I
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: literally always think about it whatever I see. I like
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: the extra ex makes so much sense, and like, what
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: a creative mom, only to find out that the mom
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: doesn't exist. I like the brand. I love it, and
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: the whole Alex media is just so nice awesome.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: But now I know everybody knows me as Alex. Now,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: like the only people will call them my real neighbor
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: is my mom and maybe a couple of my best
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: friends from childhood. No, she calls me Alex. She met
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: me as Alex. That's crazy.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like when it's funny because now I was
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: talking to my little brother Eagle. He's like, I know, Alan,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: you know my little I was like, I don't think
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: he knows what we're related.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: He's like, I did not know you were related.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: He was my little brother and he was like.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: The comedian right, yeah, I did not know.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: Whenever people find out and I'm like the wits, the wit,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: but yeah, yes, I call him. I describe him as
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: the guy that he just surprisingly hasn't gotten canceled yet.
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: He straddles that fan so well. He straddles that one
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: you know, the one wheel bike. He straddles it and
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, somehow missed it.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: Those people I love to be around the right there.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: They just and you love to watch it because it's
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: like so great. But you're like, so maw, he's made
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: it out. Yeah so but and Thensama was like Alex yeah,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, I finally get to sit
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: down with him. But they thank you so much for
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: sitting down and having some cheerios with me. Yes, og classic,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: and I hope to get a picture from you later.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: It's honey with honey nut cheerios, It's sugar with frusted flakes,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: and it's cinnamon with cinnamon toe.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Scrunch cinnamon on extra cinnamon on the cinnamon to scrunch.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Now cinnamon and sugar.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Na, Actually I would do cinnamon and.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Sugar, but now too in the containers. Now really you
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: can get the cinnamon sugar.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Mane Oh shit, see I should have invented that.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: All right, guys, thank you so much for tuning into
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: another episode of Eating while broke. Keep up with everything
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: alex media and can you shout out the new show? Oh?
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, so the new show it's called A m Mornings.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: You can just go to AM Mornings dot com and
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: you find out all the information from there. It's live
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: every Sunday eleven am YouTube. It's really fun. Check it out.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: Shout out WTF studios.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely if this is the best podcast studio
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: in the world, so head over to WTF Media Studios
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: dot com. We have locations in New York, LA. We
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: also do off site and we do that around the world.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: If you want to shoot a podcast, I've shoten podcasts
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: in Paris, I've shotten all over America. Yeah, we do
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: that and we keep our casts very low so that
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: way we can provide a good service and you can
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: afford it.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Yes, thank you. Guys, peace out, peace