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Mega Edition: The Curious Case of Jeffrey Epstein And The Missing RICO Charges (6/15/26) · The Epstein Chronicles

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. Now
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that the indictment for Sean Ditty Combs has been unsealed,
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we're finally getting a look at the charges that the
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government is bringing against Ditty, and all of those charges
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that he's been slaped with come with mandatory sentences. And
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it's not something that a lot of people are talking
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about because obviously the five hundred pound gorilla in the
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room is the rico charges. But all this other stuff
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is bad news for him. And one thing that's really
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going to come back and bite him in the ass
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and probably cause enhancers to kick in are those guns
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that have obliterated serial numbers. You can't run around with
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firearms with obliterated serial numbers. That's a ten year stint
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right there, just on the gun. So this dude's looking
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at serious time, folks, and he's in serious jeopardy of
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going to prison for the rest of his life. Today
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we have an article from Newsweek and the headline Sean
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Combs case compared to r Kelly, Jeffrey Epstein, and didty
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is screwed? This article was authored by Jenna Sundel Well.
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I certainly can't disagree with the Didty is screwed portion,
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and I think that if we're going to compare what's
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going on with Didty to anyone, I think that R
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Kelly's probably the right way to go. That's how this
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is going to be prosecuted. And my guess is that's
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the blueprint that they're going to use. Remember this is
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the same office that went after R Kelly as well.
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So I think that there are similarities obviously between the
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criminal enterprises of Diddy and Jeffrey Epstein. But we have
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to remember that Jeffrey Epstein and what he was doing
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was on an international level. He was bringing women in
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from Eastern Europe. He was bringing women in from god
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knows where, and these women were coming here and being
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put up at a building on East sixty sixth Street
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in Manhattan, all with the promise of a lucrative modeling
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career waiting for them in the United States, but that
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never materialized. Instead, they were sent out to go to
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different meetings with people to try and collect compromount So
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while there are similarities, there's no doubt both criminal enterprises,
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they're both based on human trafficking. There are also some
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serious differences when it comes to Epstein. And Diddy, and
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I think, in my opinion anyway, the more apt description,
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the more apt comparison would be with R. Kelly, and
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I think that's what the prosecutors are going to do.
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When you look at the charges that they've hit Diddy with.
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I think they're going to use the blueprint that they
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built during that R Kelly prosecution, especially considering the success
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they had with it. Right, they were able to nail
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them and send them to prison for the rest of
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his life with that game plan, So I don't see
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them deviating from that course and going a different way.
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I think they're going to pursue Diddy the same exact
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way they did R Kelly, and I think when all
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is said and done, we're gonna have the same result.
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Legal experts are weighing in on disgraced rapper and music
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producer Sean Diddy Comb's indictment on charges of sex trafficking
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and racketeering. Combs fifty four, pleaded not guilty to the
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charges on Tuesday. The indictment alleged is a criminal enterprise
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operating over a series of several years, that involves coercing
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individuals to participate in various sexual acts. So one thing
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that we have to take from that is that them
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saying it's a criminal enterprise. There was definitely other people involved,
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So it's going to be real interesting to see who
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else gets indicted, who was around Diddy and who was
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working with them in forum, as opposed to the people
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who don't get indicted, because those people have probably flipped right,
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because the only way to get yourself out of trouble
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here is to turn on whoever the boss is, and
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according to the government, the boss in this situation was Diddy.
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Diddy is screwed. Nyama rockmani, former federal prosecutor and president
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of West Coast Trial Lawyers, told Newsweek the big takeaways
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are obviously, these are very serious charges. Everyone talks about
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the racketeering and how there is potential life sentence, but
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more importantly, some of these charges carry mandatory minimum sentences
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in prison. And that's what I was saying earlier. There's
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a lot in this indictment that's bad news for Diddy,
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and I think that the guns are really going to
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come back to bite them. I talked a little bit
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about this on Twitter last night, and I think that
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with the mandatory sentences that you see with these other charges.
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I think that Diddy is in gigantic trouble and if
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things go the way that the prosecution thinks they're going
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to go, Diddy's gonna end up going to prison for
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the rest of his life, just like R. Kelly. Kathy Fleming,
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a principle at the Office of Kerman Litigation Practice Group,
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also emphasize the severity of the charges. To Newsweek, they
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have alleged very serious crimes in a federal court, alleging
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issues related to sex trafficking, meaning misusing the victims, and
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there is serious time consequences if someone is convicted of this,
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Fleming said to Newsweek, Yeah, no doubt about it. And
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we haven't even talked about the man Act or anything
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else yet. And there's no way that this is the
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last iteration of this indictment. It's going to be superseded.
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They're going to add more to it. It's just a
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matter of time. Trey Lovell and entertainment and civil attorney,
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spoke to Newsweek about the similarities between R. Kelly sex
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trafficking case and colmb's case, and I think this is
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the most important comparison. I know a lot of people
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want to compare it to Epstein, and I understand why, right.
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Epstein was one of the most disgusting, vile people in
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the history of the world. And then you look at
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what Diddy was up to, and it's very similar. But
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when you really look at it, it's not the same.
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They weren't up to the same thing. It wasn't international,
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it wasn't for a compromunt So there are a lot
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of differences. Does that make what Diddy was doing any
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less heinous or disgusting than what Epstein was up to?
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Of course not, especially to the people who were affected
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by it. So I'm not trying to say one's worse
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than the other. I'm just saying that they're different, And
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for me, I think the better comparison is the r.
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Kelly case. Now that doesn't mean that there aren't similarities.
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That doesn't mean that we shouldn't run them side by side.
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We're going to, But I think that when all is
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said and done, and we see the way that this
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gets prosecuted, and we see the evidence that's brought forward,
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it's going to resemble the r. Kelly case much closer
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than it did the Epstein or Maxwell case. R Kelly
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and now Ditty are representatives of high level famous and
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in this case in the music world, moguls who have
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chosen to live a lifestyle which the authorities question is
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illegal in many respects. Level said, and look, we all
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know that these depraved ass rich people live a different
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way than we do. They're up to a bunch of
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wild shit, and they don't get off the way we do.
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When you're a billionaire, you don't get off the same
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way the working man does. I know that if I
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go to the casino and I blow a couple of
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hundred bucks, that's exhilarating, right, that's fun. You got a
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chance to maybe win a couple of bucks. Whatever. You
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think that gets Ditty off. Of course it doesn't for Ditty,
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it's something completely different. And that is something that he
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certainly had in common with Epstein. Once you get to
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this level, the depravity just increases, and it seems like
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all of these people that roll around in this so
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called elite society or up to the same bullshit. He
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said that both cases send a message about law and power.
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The government wants to make a statement that says, no
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matter who you are, how much money you have, how
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powerful you are, we're not going to let you get
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away with stuff like this, Lovell said. Lovell also explained
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what has caused the shift in prosecuting these cases that
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have been ongoing for many years. I think it was
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triggered by the Me Too movement. When the Me Too
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movement happened and it cast this light on the dark
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world of the entertainment industry, Lovell said. ROCKMANI drew comparisons
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between Comb's case and the sex trafficking case against Jeffrey Epstein.
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R Kelly didn't have a whole lot of rich and
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famous people participate in acts with him, but did he?
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Reportedly did, and we know Epstein did, at least according
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to some of the evidence, even though a lot of
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those people haven't been prosecuted. Well, that much is certainly true.
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And I will say that the similarities between Epstein and
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did He certainly have to do with the famous people
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that they were paling around with. There's zero doubt that
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did he had some powerful friends. But there's levels to this, right,
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It's one thing to have powerful friends, It's another thing
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to be an intelligence asset. And did he most certainly,
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in my opinion, was not that was he a depraved,
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sick bastard. Absolutely did he have a lot of high
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placed friends who are very powerful in the music industry
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and in business most certainly, and there's no doubt that
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a lot of those people were attending these parties. Does
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that mean they were taking part in all this? I
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don't know. I wasn't there. I haven't seen any video.
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I haven't heard anybody come out and talk about who
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else might have participated. But it's certainly something that's on
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the table, and I'm not gonna say it didn't happen.
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I don't know. We'll have to wait and see how
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much more evidence makes itself available to us as this
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whole process continues to evolve. But I would say that
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there's a good possibility that other famous people are going
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to find themselves caught up in this. ROCKMANI also raised
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the possibility of other individuals being implicated in did He
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alleged criminal scheme. Anyone who participated in the sex acts
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should be really worried. ROCKMANNI said, there's a lot of
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rumors down here in la I live a mile away
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from Diddy. There are a lot of rumors that a
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lot of other celebrities participated in these acts. I would
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certainly be worried if I were them, because they could
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easily be charged, especially if there's video evidence. If you're
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on video and you were over at Ditty's diddling somebody,
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you're gonna be in big trouble, no doubt about it.
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The question is how many of these people were participating.
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So what we're gonna do around these parts is we're
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going to take the same approach that we did with Epstein,
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and we're going to look at all the evidence and
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we'll go from there because there's gonna be a lot
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of disinformation. There's gonna be a lot of bs surrounding
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what's going on with Diddy, what's going down with Diddy,
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and who he might have been associated with. So we're
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going to take the same approach that we did with
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Epstein as we work our way through this. Fleming described
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some of the difficulties the defense will face if Diddy
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does go to trial. You have to get a jury
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who who says they're fair and impartial, which for the
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defense is a challenge because a lot of people believe
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if you're charged, you must be guilty. Fleming said, that's
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an unfair concept and they shouldn't do that. Everyone's presumed
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innocent unless and until the government proves its case beyond
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a reasonable doubt. She said the media coverage could also
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pose a challenge for the defense. They also have a
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problem of pre trial publicity. That this is a big
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story and a lot of people are writing about it,
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and there's always a concern that potential jurors will read
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about it make up their minds before they hear the
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evidence in the courtroom, as opposed to what they read
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about it in the newspapers and particularly the internet, because
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the internet is not known for being accurate in lots
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of respects, Fleming said, all but the media is the
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media has been lying to us for how long and
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all of a sudden the media should be the arbiter
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of truth. Still, sorry, I don't buy that. I don't
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buy that for a second, And my guess is most
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of you listening to this podcast don't buy it either.
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Lovell said that the sheer amount of evidence in the
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case can also pose some difficulties. Yeah, you think, I
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would think that that's the most important thing, the evidence
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in the case, and the evidence here seems to be
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pretty overwhelming when you have what prosecutors said is up
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to fifty witnesses and victims and you have video evidence
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and physical evidence they got from the houses, and if
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indeed it corroborates each other, that's very compelling, Lovell said.
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Prosecutors will also face some struggles as they argue their case.
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According to Fleming, they've got to convince all twelve jurors
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that the person they've charged is guilty beyond a reasonable
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doubt on all the elements of the crime. Fleming said,
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and they also have the challenge of they've got a
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very famous defendant and that makes it highly watch proceeding. Well,
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that's true, but guess what the evidence is. What the
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evidence is, And for me that's the most important thing.
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All the salacious bullshit, all the nonsense, that's fine and well,
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people are going to engage in that. But me, I'm
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trying to get to the meat and potatoes. What are
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the actual charges, what do they mean, and who's involved?
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And then from there, well we can see where the
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salaciousness takes us. Fleming spoke about our own experiences being
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part of high profile cases. There are differences. The first
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is that the press is out there and they do
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a lot of investigative work, which can either help or
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hurt depending on what the facts are, Fleming said. Another
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part of it is that there's a lot of press
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in the courtroom. People in the courtroom at trials, including
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generally the judge as well as the participants, behave differently.
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They're conscious of the press being in the room. Well,
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we have an open system here in America, so they
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better get used to it. Prosecutors must also face off
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against someone who can afford a lot of resources. Having
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a lot of resources can help a defendant significantly because
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they can afford to hire not only the best lawyers,
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but they can afford to hire investigators and find out
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ways that they can help to attack the government's case
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at trial. Fleming said. Witnesses called in the case could
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also feel worried about facing the defendant. According to rock Nani,
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they may be afraid of them, and he may intimidate
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the witnesses. Rockmani said. While fame can often impact high
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profile cases, Lovell does not think that will benefit Didty.
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I would think that based on the allegations and how
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serious they are. I don't really think his celebrity is
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going to help him, Lovell said. And I don't think
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it's going to either. I think that ditty's cooked and
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I think right now, we're just at the point where
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we're learning how cooked he is, right, Is he going
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to be well done or is he going to maybe
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escape with some lesser burns, if you will. But one
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thing's for damn sure. There's no way that he's just
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walking away from this, unless, of course, he pleads guilty.
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But besides that, this is going to trial and we're
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going to be following along every step of the way
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as it makes its way through the system and eventually
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into the courtroom. All of the information that goes with
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this episode can be found in the description box, have
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not really discussed here on the podcast. And that person
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is R. Kelly. And the reason I'm bringing him up
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is when you look at the cases that are in
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the news, there aren't many that fit the bill of
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the Jeffrey Epstein case. But when you look at the R.
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Kelly case and some of the charges brought against him,
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and you look at how aggressively the government's going after
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him for being the head of a criminal enterprise, one
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is left to wonder why the same zeal isn't being
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shown when they're going after Glenne Maxwell. Now, if anything
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has ever been a RICO case it's certainly the Jeffrey
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Epstein case, and as far as this R. Kelly case goes,
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I say kudos to the government for going into their
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toolbox and using this charge on him, because, as you're
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going to see in this article, the stuff R. Kelly
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was up to was the same shit Jeffrey Epstein was
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up to, but it wasn't to the level of Jeffrey
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Epstein's deviousness. And that's pretty mind blowing considering how disgusting,
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how gross the shit R. Kelly was up to is,
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And then you think about how much longer, how many
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more survivors and victims there were of Jeffrey Epstein, and
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it's enough for you to want to take a bleach shower.
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But the real question remains, why is there not a
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RICO charge hanging over the co conspirators of Jeffrey Epstein.
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If R Kelly is hit with a leadership charge, if
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R Kelly is said to be in charge of a
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criminal enterprise that's based around sexual assault of women and
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young girls, then don't you think that Jeffrey Epstein and
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Glane Maxwell should be classified the same way Keith Rayniery
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racketeering RICO all these other people Rico racketeering, but not
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Glan Maxwell. So again it makes you ask yourself why. Now,
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don't get me wrong. R Kelly rich ass guy, dude,
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no doubt about it. Had a bunch of money. What
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he didn't have the political connections of Glan Maxwell and
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Jeffrey Epstein. Same goes with Rainiery. Keith Rainiery a little
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bit more connected, right, but not completely locked in certainly
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didn't have a picture of a president in address hanging
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on his wall. So you see, if it's good enough
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for these two scoundrel ass scumbags pieces of shit, why
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is it not good enough for Glan Maxwell? Why is
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it not good enough for Jeffrey Epstein? That case should
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have been Rico from the very beginning. It is everything
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that you want for predicates of Rico. It's a criminal enterprise,
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people in leadership roles, people were enriching them selves from
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ill gotten gains. And never mind all of the other
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things that go along with it, wire fraud, coercion, you
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name it. Oh, I've seen them hit regular people, bookies, Okay,
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people that were engaged in quote unquote illegal sports gambling
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get hit with one hundred literally one hundred rego predicates
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know one. They're not gonna be able to stick all
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of them to them, but hopefully one of them sticks
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and in the hopes that you plea down and then
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you go to prison, they don't have to go to trial.
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It's a win win for them, but not for Glenn Maxwell,
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not for her people. Still, they don't even have a
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man Act charge against Glene Maxwell. So let's jump into
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this article today from the Chicago Tribune and let's take
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a look at R Kelly's situation, and let's run that
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side by side concurrently with the Jeffrey Epstein case. And
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then I'll ask you so again, why is Jeffrey Epstein's
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cohort Why is Glainne Maxwell not being charged with RICO
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headline a sex abuse enterprise breaking down the unusual racketeering
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case against R Kelly. The authors of this article are
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Jason Meisner and Megan crapou R and B Superstar. R
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Kelly had embarked on what was supposed to be a
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high flying tour in twenty sixteen when two members of
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his ent garage allegedly expressed concern the singer was physically
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and psychologically abusing a teenage girl traveling with them. YO
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that's insane to think about. I mean, imagine being on
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this road crew. I worked in entertainment, and I can't
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even imagine being on a road crew where somebody's being
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kept in servitude, being abused physically, psychologically, and not stepping
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up to do something about it. It's crazy to think
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how much power people like this wield, somebody like R
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Kelly in his circle, right, But I don't see how
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people could not report this so good on the entourage.
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Probably stage hands that reported his ass, right, Probably some
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you know, audio technician or lighting technician that was tired
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of R. Kelly's bullshit every day, tired of his dumb
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ass rider requests every day, and said, you know what,
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this dude's a sick prick. I'm ratting him out, and
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good on whoever it was who snitched on him. You know,
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I'm a pretty mind my own business kind of guy, right,
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but not in circumstances like this. And again, I'll say
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it one hundred thousand times, You're lucky if only the
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cops get called on you, homie, because I gotta tell you,
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I don't know if i'd be able to control myself
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I catch somebody hurting one of these kids or engaged
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in trafficking of women. I might just go ahead and
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let off. Honestly, I'm not even kidding. You know, violence
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is not the answer ever, All kidding aside, right, you
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don't want to engage in violence at all. I mean,
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there's nothing cool about it or anything like that. But
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people like this man, and if you're around it, I mean, like,
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you know you're working for this guy and you find out,
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I don't know, I'd freak out. I would freak the
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fuck out, guaranteed, one hundred percent freak out, and there'd
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be a confrontation. I would definitely confront the person engaging
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in this. So good on the crew members, whoever it was,
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to step up and rat this disgusting fucker out. The
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girl was kept locked up in a tour bus for
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hours on end, according to a recent court filing by
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federal prosecutors in New York. Her eyes were red and puffy.
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She looked rough. As one employee allegedly put it, so
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you're gonna keep somebody locked in a tour bus for
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hours on end, and nobody's gonna know the difference. Nobody's
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gonna say, Hey, r Kelly, the fuck you doing? Man?
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Why you got this girl locked up in your tour bus.
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All of those people that were around him as well,
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just like the people that were around Epstein pieces of shit.
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Tell me you didn't know what was going on. You
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knew what was going on. Kind of fucking kind of man.
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Has anyone locked up in a tour bus for a
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few hours tho it was wrong with you? Something is
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really strange about the treatment and behavior of the little one,
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the employee texted on May seventeenth, twenty sixteen. According to
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the filing, when she gets to Florida, she needs to
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run and never look back. She should be living the fun,
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living the fun life of an eighteen year old high
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school senior. She's been on punishment forever, whatever that means.
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Talk about cryptic and scary and whoever sending that message,
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What do you mean you're sending a message? Bro? What
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kind of coward are you? Walk onto that bus, grab
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that girl, and walk off that bus and tell any
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of them motherfuckers that are in your way if they
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try and stop you, they're finna get it, pretty simple,
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pretty simple. Too many do nothing mfs running around this world.
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Too many people that are waiting for other people to
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step up, to the plate and fix shit or to
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do something. Well, guess what, Sometimes it's your number that's called.
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Sometimes you're the one that has to step up and
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make the play. And if you're ever around a situation
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like this, at the very least, go to the authorities
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right away. The employee's concerns go to the heart of
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the unusual federal racketeering case against Kelly that is expected
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to attract national attention when Jerry selection begins Monday at
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the Federal courthouse in Brooklyn. And now remember he's in
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the same the same facility as Glenn Maxwell right now,
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So you got the jury's getting ready to be selected,
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the whole nine, it's all getting ready to crack off
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for r Kelly. And the question is, again, why would
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he be slapped with racketeering and not Glenn Maxwell. Now,
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please don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that har Kelly
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shouldn't be hit with this. I think all of these
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fucking people should be Raynieri, him Maxwell. If you're going
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to be part of a criminal organization, a criminal enterprise
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that's enriching everyone around you on the back of human trafficking,
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you should all get slapped with Rico what. It's only
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good if somebody has a vow at the end of
24:02
their last name. The shit's only good if somebody's a
24:05
crack dealer in watts Naw, fuck that. If you're part
24:08
of a criminal enterprise, I don't care what sort of
24:10
criminal enterprise it is, It's time for the Rico Act
24:15
to slap you directly in your mouth. Unlike the singer's
24:23
previous criminal trial in Cook County over a decade ago,
24:26
which centered on a single sex tape and ended in
24:29
an acquittal, the expansive indictment in New York accuses him
24:33
of being the head of a criminal enterprise that, for
24:36
decades used his celebrated musical talents to not only sell records,
24:41
but also to abuse and enslave girls, produce child pornography,
24:47
and satisfy Kelly's personal sexual urges. Boy, where have we
24:51
heard all of that before? Huh? So wouldn't Jeffrey Epstein
24:54
and Maxwell be the head of a criminal enterprise check
24:58
that for decades used his celebrated musical talents r Kelly,
25:02
but Epstein his power and influence to not only sell records,
25:07
not only make money for Epstein, but to abuse an
25:11
enslaved girls and produce child porn. Check check, check, check check.
25:14
All of those boxes are filled. All of those parameters
25:18
are met by Maxwell and Epstein as well. So again
25:21
I'm gonna ask the question, why aren't they being charged
25:25
with racketeering? Why are they not being smacked with RICO?
25:32
Legal experts said, charging Kelly under the Racketeering Statute commonly
25:37
referred to by the acronym RICO is likely unchartered territory
25:42
for the nineteen seventy law, which was originally designed to
25:45
go after mafia bosses who shielded themselves by using underlings
25:50
to do their dirty work. One hundred percent, that's what
25:53
RICO was created for, and that's what we have here R. Kelly,
25:57
him and his group, no doubt about it. But more specifically,
26:01
in the vein that we discuss, Jeffrey Epstein and his
26:05
criminal enterprise, no different than the mafia, was set up
26:08
the same way to insulate him and his lieutenants from blowback.
26:14
And when that blowback came, look what happened. They were
26:17
insulated so well that they were all able to get
26:20
put onto that non prosecution agreement. So these guys R. Kelly,
26:28
Jeffrey Epstein all of these people who are in charge
26:31
of groups like this that are engaging in any sort
26:34
of human trafficking. Look, if you're transferring girls across state
26:37
lines for sexual purposes, you, my friend, are in violation
26:41
of the man Act. Okay, right away. Never mind all
26:45
of the other stuff that comes along with it. RICO
26:48
and the rest. Here. R. Kelly is the godfather, said
26:54
Jeff Grell, a professor of the University of Minnesota Law
26:57
School and an expert in RICO law. The enter as
27:00
the managers, the bodyguards, and the runners who do his bidding. Okay,
27:04
let's slip in what we talk about here here, Jeffrey
27:09
Epstein is the godfather. The enterprise is the managers, Gallah, Maxwell,
27:14
the core four, the bodyguards. In Epstein's case, that would
27:19
be the accountant and the lawyer, and runners who do
27:22
his bidding. So what is different with Jeffrey Epstein's organization
27:25
in R. Kelly's organization, How can the federal government charge
27:29
one with RICO and not the other. What makes the
27:35
racketeering charge such a powerful weapon against Kelly legal expert
27:39
set is the prosecutors can give jurors a thirty thousand
27:42
foot view of the Singer's alleged criminal behavior, both in
27:46
terms of long longevity and the number of victims involved.
27:51
So that's what RICO does, Right, We've talked about this.
27:54
I'm sure some of you are sick of it at
27:56
this point. So that's what RICO does. Though. It gives
28:00
you a full aerial view of all the crimes and
28:04
lets you dive on in no matter what it is.
28:08
If I sent you money and I'm under criminal investigation
28:12
with a RICO case, you are now part of my
28:15
criminal organization. You are now receiving ill gotten gains. So
28:21
you're part of the RICO investigation. That's how it works
28:24
in the real world. That's how it works. If you're
28:26
a regular old Italian, you know how I know life
28:30
experience is my friends. That's how it works. So how
28:33
is it that Jeffrey Epstein and his friends aren't caught
28:38
up in the same net. It's an effective tool for
28:43
prosecutors because it allows them to bring in evidence they
28:47
might not otherwise be able to bring in, to give
28:50
jurors a much broader look at the playing field, said
28:53
Jeffrey Kramer, a former federal prosecutor who is now senior
28:57
managing director of the Chicago based security firm Guidepost Solutions. One.
29:03
Look again, I've told you a million times, and I'll
29:05
tell you a million times more. RICO is the most
29:08
feared charge in the toolbox. You talk to any criminal
29:12
who's involved in a criminal enterprise and they will tell
29:15
you straight up they fear RICO like it's nobody's business.
29:20
And you know those powerful drug cartel members running around
29:24
in other countries, you know they fear the most extradition
29:27
to the United States because of laws like RICO. So
29:31
it's a very powerful tool, the kind of tool that
29:34
makes even the most hardened criminal turn snitch, turn rat
29:40
turn charman. So, hell yeah, drop that right on r
29:45
Kelly's ass, right on him all of his friends, make
29:49
all of their lives miserable and have them ratting on
29:53
each other. But at the same time, can you do
29:58
the same thing to Glenn Maxwell, and you do the
30:00
same thing to Jeffrey Epstein's friends. We're talking decades here.
30:03
People have been waiting for justice. People are getting tired
30:06
of it. To prove the main racketeering count, prosecutors planned
30:12
to put on evidence that goes back thirty years to
30:15
when R. Kelly was rocketing from Chicago street musician to
30:19
worldwide fame as his career blossomed. Prosecutors say, so did
30:24
the enterprise, which allegedly used a mix of co conspirators
30:28
to recruit girls for Kelly and help keep them under
30:31
his control. Boy, where have we heard this story before? Huh?
30:35
As Jeffrey Epstein's star rose, so did his power, so
30:39
did his grasp, and so did his atmosphere. Same with R. Kelly.
30:44
The more famous R. Kelly got, the more money he got,
30:47
the more powerful Jeffrey Epstein got as far as getting
30:50
inside of these inner sanctums of the financial world. The
30:54
more power, the more profile, and the more sway he got.
30:58
And they all had both the lieutenants. They both had
31:01
people running underneath them to keep this enterprise going to
31:04
bring these girls in and out. So what's the difference here?
31:09
Why is this bitch ass sixth son of a bitch
31:11
R Kelly slab with Rico but Maxwell not. The evidence
31:19
includes alleged acts as recent as twenty eighteen, as Kelly's
31:23
career was crumbling amid the Me Too movement. It would
31:27
soon implode when lifetimes docuseries Surviving R. Kelly brought renewed
31:32
attention to his alleged crimes, and if you haven't watched
31:36
that series yet, it's heart wrenching. Honestly, as soon as
31:43
this Jeffrey Epstein case became something that I just was
31:47
so locked into, I knew that I had to watch
31:51
that R. Kelly series even though I knew it was
31:53
gonna be disturbing, and it was disturbing, no doubt about it.
31:58
It's such a sad state of things when you have
32:01
people like this running around the world, and how many
32:06
of them are there that we don't even know about.
32:15
In all, prosecutors plan to introduce evidence involving nineteen women,
32:20
including at least seven who were minors the time of
32:23
the alleged misconduct, as well as additional allegations that Kelly
32:27
sexually abused a seventeen year old boy he met at McDonald's.
32:31
I mean, really, so this guy's running around a prolific molester.
32:37
According to the prosecution, boys, girls, it doesn't matter however,
32:42
he can get his rocks off this sick fuck. So
32:46
there should be a place underneath the prison for people
32:49
like this, people like R. Kelly, people like Glaine Maxwell,
32:54
people like Keith ray Neary, and certainly people like Jeffrey Epstein,
33:02
jurors will hear evidence that Kelly knowingly passed a sexually
33:05
transmitted disease to some victims, orchestrated hush payments to others,
33:09
and employed a strict system of discipline and psychological manipulation
33:14
with victims that in some cases spanned years. Court record.
33:18
Show boy, that all sounds familiar. Huh Now, not the
33:22
sexual transmitted disease, but all the other stuff. Psychological manipulation,
33:28
strict system of discipline and abuse that lasted for years,
33:34
tried decades in Epstein's For Epstein's part, decades folks, okay,
33:39
seventies at least. Attorneys for Kelly, meanwhile, will be tasked
33:45
with poking holes in each of the alleged predicate acts
33:48
that make up the racketeering charge, challenging witnesses on their
33:52
memories and motives and on the existence of any illegal
33:56
enterprise to begin with, legal experts said, and that's would
34:00
be the challenge for Maxwell and her team, right, how
34:04
would they prove that there was no illegal enterprise? They
34:11
can't prove that there certainly was, right, And again, I'm
34:16
the reason I am even introducing this right now, we're
34:19
even talking about this, So you can look at both
34:21
cases and say to yourself, well, why would one get
34:25
rico and not the other. What's the difference here? Well,
34:31
one has political connections and one doesn't, point blank period.
34:41
Among the questions for jurors to sort out, were the
34:43
alleged victims really coerced or were they merely fans of
34:47
Kelly's who participated willingly? Did they have a reasonable fear
34:51
of retaliation for leaving? And in the case of alleged
34:55
minor victims, did Kelly actually know they were underage? And
34:59
these are all questions that can come up in the
35:00
Epstein case as well. Right, Look, the parallels are uncanny.
35:04
When you look at the two cases and you see
35:07
how R. Kelly went about his business and how Jeffrey
35:10
Epstein went about his business, you can see how the
35:13
organizations are very similar. Now, one of them was way
35:18
higher up in the atmosphere, meaning Jeffrey Epstein's, but they
35:22
had the same kind of operational motives, right said, Kelly's
35:29
lawyers will clearly have a much tougher time defending this case. Then,
35:33
at his last criminal trial in two thousand and eight,
35:36
when a Cook County jerry decided they couldn't be sure
35:39
Kelly was the man seen in a grainy videotape having
35:43
sex with a thirteen year old girl. Nah, it wasn't him.
35:45
It was somebody who just looked like him, a grainy videotape.
35:49
Technicalities and loopholes, and yet he's let go, and he
35:55
continues on his way, continuing abusing people, hurting people, ruining life.
36:00
Just like Jeffrey Epstein, there isn't just one thing that
36:06
can be explained away, like a sex tape where you
36:09
can argue you can't tell who's in it, Grell said
36:12
of the charges Kelly now faces. If prosecutors are able
36:15
to show this whole scope and pattern of activity, it's like,
36:19
come on, it's overwhelming. Yeah, no shit, I'm just a
36:23
regular guy, you know, no experience as an investigator, and
36:30
I sure the hell put together Eerrico case on Epstein's
36:34
go take a look back at the catalog, folks. We've
36:36
built the case for them. If they're too lazy to
36:38
do it themselves, all they have to do is put
36:41
the technical paperwork together. The case is there. The stakes
36:48
couldn't be higher for Kelly fifty four, who has been
36:51
in federal custody, since his arrest in July twenty nineteen,
36:55
and could face decades in prison if convicted. The trial
36:59
is scheduled to be in Earnest on August eighteenth with
37:02
opening statements and is expected to last more than a month.
37:06
See that's the thing with Rico cases too, they can
37:08
go on forever, and to build a Rico case takes
37:13
years sometimes, Like when you're building a Rico case against
37:16
somebody like say John Gotti, it takes years to build
37:18
that case, witnesses and tapes and you name it. The
37:27
outcome may also give guidance how authorities and other districts
37:30
preced in other cases against him, including a pending indictment
37:34
in US District Court in Chicago and other charges brought
37:37
in Cook County in February twenty nineteen. Long list of accusations.
37:44
The allegations against Kelly date back to nineteen ninety one,
37:48
two years before his album twelve Play, along with the
37:51
number one single Bump and Grind, were released to go
37:54
on and sell more than five million copies, and center
37:58
around his musical career, both in the studio in Chicago
38:02
and while on tour performing at venues across the country.
38:06
All the way back to nineteen ninety one. I was
38:09
eleven years old in nineteen ninety one. Folks world sure
38:14
was a different place back then, But this dude, for
38:18
thirty years was able to go on abusing people, molesting children,
38:24
raping girls, molesting boys too, I guess, and nobody stepped
38:30
up to stop him either. Huh. Now, think about that
38:35
for a minute. All R. Kelly had was money in fame,
38:38
not political connections, and that money in fame shielded him
38:42
for that this long. Now you add the political connections
38:46
to it, and you can see how people like Epstein
38:50
were able to operate almost with impunity. According to the indictment,
38:57
at the height of Kelly's fame, it was standard for
39:00
his entourage to issue riskbands to girls some minors attending
39:04
his concerts that allowed them backstage access and direct interaction
39:08
with Kelly. I can confirm that that happened at concerts.
39:11
I mean, I'm not too sure that underage stuff. I
39:17
never seen anything like that, honestly, but they definitely did
39:20
do that at concerts. You know, they'd go out and
39:22
there'd be people who worked for the bands. Their job
39:25
would be to wrangle up girls, you know, groupies. They'd
39:29
go out to the crowd. They'd pick out some chicks
39:31
and bring them backstage and whatever. Whatever. But this is
39:36
on a whole other level, going out looking for kids
39:39
to bring back, giving kids riskbands. Fuck is wrong with you?
39:46
When Kelly identified a girl he wished to see again,
39:48
he'd ask for a contact information or direct his associates
39:52
to obtain it. The girls were then invited to meet
39:55
with Kelly at future shows, with some provided lodging, according
39:59
to the charge, And that was all part of it, right,
40:02
You know, now you're feeling special. Oh r, Kelly wants
40:05
me to come hang out with him. He's gonna get
40:07
a hotel room for me. He really likes me, you know,
40:10
famous guy, young naive girls. You see the problem here?
40:15
You see where this is going. The charges alleged Kelly
40:21
had rules for the girls he groomed. They were to
40:23
call him Daddy and were not allowed to leave their
40:26
rooms unless instructed by Kelly to do so, including to
40:29
eat or go to the bathroom. The indictment said, so
40:33
this was on another level, right, This was like he
40:36
had them enslaved, like they couldn't do shit without his approval.
40:40
You can't go eat, you can't go to the bathroom.
40:43
You can't do anything unless you ask me. Oh and
40:46
by the way, you gotta call me daddy. Uh Hello,
40:51
creepy fucking creeper tin and the people around him that
40:56
let this occur, all of his close confidants, bunch of
41:00
sick fucks, just like Jeffrey Epstein's people. Many survivors allegedly
41:06
were videotipped by Kelly are performing sex acts and were slaps, spanked,
41:10
or otherwise physically assaulted. Some were told they had to
41:13
look at the floor. Others were forced to write letters
41:17
containing falsehoods and embarrassing, embarrassing allegations for Kelly to use
41:21
at his discretion if and when the need arose. Prosecutors
41:25
have alleged so he'd have some compromont on them. Where
41:28
do we hear that before? Huh, you have a little
41:31
bit of dirt on somebody, It's a lot easier to
41:34
mold them to do what you want them to do,
41:36
isn't it. So we know Epstein was the king of compromont,
41:41
and it looks like R. Kelly had himself some compromont
41:43
here as well. One of the survivors central to the
41:49
indictment is a Leah Houghton, a one time phenom singer,
41:53
referred to the charges as Jane Doe Number one, who
41:56
died in a plane crash in the Bahamas in two
41:59
thousand and one. Geez, I can't even imagine that. You
42:04
think about Aliyah, right, and you know her music and
42:07
all of that, and then to think that R. Kelly
42:09
sexually abused her. Fucking mind boggling. Aliah met Kelly when
42:15
she was just twelve as his protege. She went on
42:19
to become a teenage R and B star. Her smash
42:22
hit May nineteen ninety four debut album, Age Ain't Nothing
42:26
But a Number was produced and written by Kelly. Yikes. See,
42:30
this is all stuff I didn't even really know. I've
42:32
never honestly, I try not to delve too deep into
42:36
this shit besides the Epstein case, because it's also disturbing
42:39
to me. I mean, I you know, we live in
42:45
a very sick, six sick world filled with very sick people.
42:48
Age Ain't Nothing but a number? And it was written
42:52
by R. Kelly. Boy that aged well, didn't it? When
42:56
you're In nineteen ninety four, Bride the state employee to
43:00
create a fake ID for Aliah, showing she was eighteen,
43:03
when in fact she was only fifteen. The next day, Kelly,
43:06
then twenty seven, married Aliyah in a secret ceremony with
43:10
the falsified paperwork. The marriage was later annulled by a
43:14
Michigan judge at the insistence of Aliah's family. Wow, imagine
43:19
this sick fuck taking advantage of this little girl. Oh,
43:23
I'm gonna make you a superstar. I'm gonna make you
43:26
the greatest R and B singer of all time, getting
43:30
her a fake ida when she's fifteen so he can
43:33
marry her. I hope R Kelly fucking rots at the
43:37
bottom of the prison. Prosecutors have said a witness will
43:44
testify that Kelly had secretly arranged the marriage after he
43:47
got her pregnant and wanted to shield himself from criminal charges.
43:51
Oh more arranged marriages. Huh boy, There sure are a
43:54
lot of parallels here. There sure are a lot of parallels. Meanwhile,
44:03
Kelly's former tour manager, Dimitrius Smith, said in the Surviving R.
44:07
Kelly documentary that he'd arranged the forged documents for Kelly
44:11
and was one of a handful of people present at
44:13
the small ceremony in the Chicago suburb of Rosemont. So
44:18
basically what you're telling, was Dimitrius Smith, is that your
44:22
job was more important than these young girls' lives. Keeping
44:25
your job was more important than calling out your bitch
44:29
ass boss or serving them up that three piece with
44:32
the soda. You were there and you didn't stop it.
44:38
You knew this girl's fifteen. You're letting this motherfucker marry her.
44:44
It was just a quick little ceremony. She didn't have
44:46
on a white dress, he didn't have on a tuck,
44:48
said Smith, who later told media outlets he's been subpoena
44:51
to testify in Kelly's criminal case. Just every day where
44:55
she looked worried and scared. Oh that's nice. So you're
44:58
at a wedding and you know this is little girl.
45:00
She looks worried and scared, but you still take part. You,
45:03
my friend, are a piece of shit as well. Another
45:09
alleged survivor, who met Kelly at a mall in two
45:11
thousand and three when she was in her early twenties
45:14
and working as a radio station intern, is expected to
45:17
testify that she was invited to interview Kelly at a
45:20
Chicago music studio where she was forced to sign a
45:24
non disclosure agreement before being locked in a room without
45:27
sustenance for three days. What the what? So I show
45:32
up to interview you and I get locked in a
45:34
room for three days with no sustenance? Where are her people?
45:37
Where's her boss? Her friend's her family? Her boyfriend? I
45:41
got news for you. Somebody locks carry up, somebody somewhere.
45:45
I'm showing up. You better believe it, and I'm not
45:48
going to be alone. Fuck you mean you had her
45:51
locked up for three days and nobody shows up. After
45:57
a member of Kelly's entourage finally gave her something to drink,
46:00
she became tired and dizzy and passed out. The indictment
46:03
alleged she woke up sometime thereafter to Kelly with her
46:07
in the bedroom in circumstances that made it apparent that
46:12
he had sexually assaulted her while she was unconscious. Prosecutors alleged,
46:16
so did they give her something to make her pass out?
46:19
Some kind of drug or something like that? Doesn't make
46:23
any sense, But the fact of the matter is this R.
46:26
Kelly and the people around him were sick fucks and
46:29
they all deserve to be charged with RICO. The only
46:32
thing I'm wondering is where's the rico for? Say it
46:36
with me in the back folks. Epstein and his crew
46:43
also expected to testify as an alleged male survivor of
46:46
Kelly's identified as John Doe number one, who says he
46:50
was sexually abused as a teen after meeting Kelly in
46:52
December two thousand and six at an unspecified Chicago McDonald's
46:58
prosecutors alleged in a recent court filing that Kelly invited
47:01
the boy to a party at his Chicago residence, but
47:04
when the boy brought his parents, Kelly advised him to
47:07
come without them to the next gathering. Oh yeah, sound
47:10
doesn't sound terrifying or anything. It's not a red flag. Hey, mom, Dad,
47:15
next time I go to R. Kelly's house, you're not
47:17
allowed to come? What what'd you just say to me?
47:20
I'm not allowed to do? What? Well, guess what, You're
47:23
never going there again? How about that? Fuck? Does that
47:26
mean you can't bring your parents? I think that would
47:29
be a red flag for parents out there. No. Kelly
47:35
also asked John Doe one what he was willing to
47:38
do to succeed in the music business and clarify that
47:41
he wanted John Doe number one to engage in sexual
47:44
contact with Kelly. Prosecutors alleged with that backdrop, Kelly then
47:49
engaged in sexual contact with John Doe. Number One. Prosecutor
47:54
said Kelly also forced the boy to have sex with
47:57
females as Kelly videotaped the acts. Yo, this guy is
48:02
shaping up to be quite the fucking scumbag. Huh. So again,
48:08
every single charge you could possibly hit him with, I
48:11
say do it. If there's more charges besides RICO hit
48:14
him with those two People like this do not deserve
48:17
to breathe the same air as the rest of us, folks.
48:20
There's no rehabilitating somebody like R. Kelly or Jeffrey Epstein
48:26
Rico creativity. The case against R. Kelly is just the
48:30
most recent example of federal prosecutors in New York's Brooklyn
48:34
office using the RICO law and rather inventive fashion. Legal
48:38
experts told the Tribune, Oh, that's nice. So everybody's getting
48:42
rico's but Jeffrey Epstein. Huh, we're hands in them. Mount
48:45
everybody like Candy, but Epstein and his boys, Nah, no
48:49
Rico for them. It's very frustrating, folks, very very frustrating.
48:57
In twenty fifteen, the office announced an indictment that rocked
49:00
international Sports, charging fourteen defendants with racketeering, wire fraud, and
49:06
money laundering conspiracies in connection with FIFA, the worldwide governing
49:11
body of soccer. And those are some of their favorite
49:15
RICO predicates. Boys and girls, let me tell you, racketeering,
49:19
wire fraud, and money laundering. Didn't I I've talked about
49:21
all of those before here, haven't I. I think I've
49:24
seen those charges. In fact, look, those are some of
49:28
the most basic REGO charges, and they're definitely predicates that
49:33
they slam people with. Perhaps the closest analog to the
49:40
Kelly case, according to one expert, was a successful RICO
49:43
prosecution of the Upstate New York group Nexium, a cult
49:48
like organization that purported to be a self help group.
49:51
A federal Jerry and Brooklyn convicted leader Keith Rayniery on
49:55
charges including racketeering and sex trafficking in June twenty nineteen,
50:00
the month before the RICO indictment against Kelly was unveiled.
50:05
Rayniery was sentenced to one hundred and twenty years in prison.
50:12
Paging Maureen Comy, Hello, Maureen Comy, you have precedent all
50:18
over the place. What are you doing? When are we
50:21
going to get a superseded indictment here? When is Maxwell
50:24
going to get smacked with Rico charges? Randy D. Gordon,
50:29
executive professor at Texas A and M University Law School
50:32
who has extensively studied RICO, said the Nexium sex cult
50:36
had a concrete organizational structure reporting to Rayniery, while the
50:41
enterprise Kelly allegedly led appears far looser one hundred percent.
50:45
And that's my point exactly. If you're gonna hit r.
50:48
Kelly with RICO, and you should, Jeffrey Epstein and his
50:51
people should be slap with it too. It's an ironclad
50:54
Rico case, folks, iron clad. If Epstein's last name was Gambella,
51:03
forget it. We're not even thinking about a traditional prostitution
51:10
ring though this is the sort of this is sort
51:13
of within that space of sex trafficking, Gordon said. From
51:16
the defendant's perspective, I suppose he can argue that the
51:20
alleged enterprise is too a MorphOS and ill defined, he said,
51:24
I still think the government has the better argument on
51:27
the issue of whether the alleged enterprise is just disguised
51:30
allegation that Kelly is the enterprise. Look again, the similarities
51:38
in this case, no doubt. But what Epstein did was
51:40
on such a larger scale and spanned intercontinentally. It was
51:46
government officials involved, magnates of business involved. But he doesn't
51:50
get slapped with RICO. Okay, I guess we'll just accept it.
51:57
That's a topic that Kelly's Chicago based defense team, which
52:00
has since been severed from the case, tried to raise
52:03
an emotion to dismiss last year, arguing the charges failed
52:07
to specifically name any co conspirators, which is unusual for
52:11
a RICO case. See again, there is more for a
52:17
RICO case in the Epstein situation than any of these
52:19
other ones. That's why it makes me so mental. That's
52:22
why I've got to scream about it from mountaintops pretty
52:25
much every day. Robert Kelly is not an enterprise. Attorney.
52:32
Stephen Greenberg wrote an emotion at the time, RICO was
52:35
not designed as a means to punish a single individual
52:38
for his own wrongful actions. That's exactly that's true. It's
52:41
not it was meant to punish people who had leadership
52:45
roles at the top of these organizations. So you're boy
52:48
r Kelly, Jeffrey Epstein, Gallainne Maxwell, those people. US District
52:55
judge and Donnelly denied the motion in May twenty May
52:59
of twenty two, saying it was up to the jurors
53:01
to decide. G Robert Blakey, who helped draft the Rico
53:05
statutes decades ago, said a case like Kelly's was not
53:09
quite what he pictured when writing the law, but over
53:11
the years the statute has proven to be extraordinarily flexible. Yeah,
53:16
that's one way of saying that they've used it to
53:19
hamstring plenty of people in this country throughout the years.
53:25
To prove their case, prosecutors must show that the enterprise
53:28
went beyond just Kelly himself, said Blakey, now a Professor
53:32
emeratus at Notre Dame's Law School. But they don't necessarily
53:36
have to prove a sophisticated mafia like structure existed under him.
53:41
Case law has held that the enterprise must only be
53:44
as organized as a pickup basketball game, Blakey said, and
53:48
Kelly's indictment more than meets the elements of a Rico case.
53:51
Bing bang boom case point, everything sold down the river.
53:56
It's all over and done with the guy who wrote
53:57
the law even just told you what recas' supposed to be. Now,
54:01
if Jeffrey Epstein and his organization don't fit those parameters,
54:04
I don't know what does. While they're playing the game,
54:11
you know the center is, you know who the center is,
54:14
and you know who the guards are. Everybody knows where
54:17
the basketball court is. Everybody knows to play on that court,
54:20
and the game goes on even though the people playing
54:23
it change over time. That's just like the mob, he said.
54:26
Can you identify roles in the group that was around
54:29
Kelly and did it have a reasonable long long? Was
54:32
it around for a reasonably long time? It's got to
54:35
be more than a weekend. It's gotta be years. Every parameter,
54:40
every box mark checked, everything ticked off. How in the
54:47
fuck is Maxwell not slap with rico. Stephen Block, a
54:55
former federal prosecutor in Chicago, said, it's likely the government true.
55:00
We considered Kelly to be by far the most culpable person,
55:03
and that is who they wanted to focus their efforts on.
55:06
It could be that other members of the enterprise are
55:09
cooperating with law enforcement, and we might find out at
55:12
a later time they were charged with indictments under seal,
55:15
Block said, and again that's something that is possibly happening
55:20
in the Epstein case as well. We don't know what's
55:22
happening under seal right now. We don't know who's getting
55:26
indicted or anything like that, So that's all up in
55:30
the air still. We'll find out later on, obviously, but
55:36
right now, who knows what's going on behind the scenes. Grell,
55:42
the RICO expert from the University of Minnesota, agreed that
55:45
while some of Kelly's alleged enablers could have faced federal
55:49
charges of their own, the singer was the true target
55:52
in this situation. The primary goal is to cut the
55:55
head off of the snake. He said, Well, folks, there
55:59
you go. R. Kelly facing some serious RICO charges, and
56:03
the question remains, when is Epstein going to face the
56:09
same kind or I should say Epstein's remaining criminal remnants
56:14
of his enterprise, namely Glenn Maxwell, because when you look
56:20
at the Nexium case, when you look at R. Kelly's
56:22
case and you put him side by side and compare
56:25
them to the Epstein case, there is no way that
56:28
both of those people should be charged with racketeering and
56:31
Maxwell not. So we'll see it's almost November. We're getting
56:36
closer to the trial, and who knows if the Government's
56:40
going to hit them with RICO. But I'll tell you what,
56:45
All of the parameters are met, and now it seems
56:50
to be just a matter of the government not having
56:55
the spine to go all the way. If you'd like
56:59
to contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapucci
57:01
at ProtonMail dot com. That's bo b By c ap
57:06
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57:10
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57:17
All of the links that go with this episode can
57:19
be found in the description Boxy. Tonight, we're going to
57:23
talk about Nexium a little bit and just a quick overview.
57:27
Nexium was this supposed self help group that was really
57:31
a sex trafficking operation, a money laundering operation, and just
57:35
basically a criminal enterprise. And it was led by Keith
57:39
Rayniery and the actress from the show Smallville, Allison mack. Now,
57:45
they both ended up getting charged with racketeering charges RICO charges,
57:51
and these were the charges and the template that was
57:54
used to go after Nexium and to eventually bring the
57:58
whole entire operation to its need. Now, the reason I'm
58:02
going to talk about this tonight, is because this shows
58:05
you that there's a blueprint already out there for dealing
58:08
with organizations like Jeffrey Epstein's and utilizing tools like RICO
58:15
to do just that. Now, Keith ray Neery was rich
58:20
and had powerful friends, there's no doubt about it. But again,
58:24
just like with Weinstein, he didn't have the protection from
58:29
whatever you know, intelligence agency you want to insert here,
58:32
there's several that you can insert, right, So he wasn't
58:35
afforded that protection. So he was, you know, acting. Maybe
58:40
the state prosecutors would look the other way because he
58:43
was rich, right, they wouldn't be so hard on him.
58:45
But when it's a parent like what happened with Nexium
58:49
and people start ratting on you, et cetera, et cetera,
58:52
there's no way for them to provide cover for you. Now,
58:56
in the Epstein case, what they were able to do
58:59
was they were able to provide cover for the co
59:02
conspirators with the immunity deal. Right, the very silly immunity
59:10
deal that Epstein got that covered co conspirators as well. Well.
59:14
Rayniery was never going to get something like that. There
59:16
was zero chance that Keith Rayniery or Alison Mack or
59:20
the Bromfman's were ever ever going to be afforded the
59:24
same sort of leniency that Epstein was, And that can
59:28
only be for the one simple reason. Right, Obviously, we
59:33
all know that Epstein was an asset of the intelligence
59:37
community at this point. That's what all the evidence points to.
59:41
And the fact that we keep reading about all of
59:43
these other people, high profile people that have just as
59:46
much money, if not more than Epstein, who get taken
59:49
down in these sort of rings all the time and
59:52
they end up doing actual jail time. Well, for some reason,
59:56
Jeffrey Epstein and his co conspirators they were able to skate.
59:59
They never had worry about any of that. So in
1:00:02
tonight's article, we're going to talk about Nexium and their downfall,
1:00:07
and obviously the most important aspect that has drawn me
1:00:11
to this case and brought it brought it to you know,
1:00:14
the forefrontier on the podcast is the racketeering angle, and
1:00:18
that's what I want everybody to focus on here. I
1:00:20
know we don't stray very often from the actual Epstein case,
1:00:24
but I believe this provides a good blueprint for how
1:00:28
the prosecution could deal with Jeffrey Epstein's remaining co conspirators
1:00:33
going forward. So this article is from the Cut and
1:00:40
it was authored by Amanda Arnold and the headline is
1:00:44
Nexium founder Keith Rayniery found guilty on all counts And
1:00:49
this article was produced on June nineteenth of two thousand
1:00:53
and nineteen, just over a year after being arrested on
1:00:58
suspicion of running a sett Nexium founder Keith Raynier has
1:01:02
been convicted. On Wednesday, jurors in Federal District Court in
1:01:06
Brooklyn found Rayniery guilty on all seven criminal charges against him,
1:01:10
including sex trafficking and racketeering. That's rico, my friends. The
1:01:16
New York Times reports, while Nexium purported to be a
1:01:20
self help organization, federal prosecutors say that it was instead
1:01:23
a front for a sex cult. They say manipulated women,
1:01:27
subject subjected them to ritual humiliations, monitored their their calorie intake,
1:01:33
and branded them with Rainieri's initials. Sounds like a real
1:01:37
hell of a guy, huh. Sounds like the sort of
1:01:39
fella that you would love for your daughter to be
1:01:41
hanging around. Actually, sounds like somebody that you would find
1:01:45
in polite New York society. Oh guess what, that's where
1:01:47
he used to hang out. Shocking. I know, I know
1:01:49
you're all shocked by that. At this point, with his
1:01:53
inner circle, he was the ruler in his universe. Who
1:01:56
does that sound like, folks? Does that sound like our
1:01:58
good friend Jeffrey Epstein, the ruler of his own universe?
1:02:03
That is the perfect description, because that's what Epstein felt
1:02:06
he was as well, right anytime that anyone was in
1:02:08
his atmosphere, they were his to do with as he pleased.
1:02:12
And we see that with people like Keith Rayinniery as well.
1:02:15
There are a lot of power parallels with this nexium case,
1:02:19
a lot of parallels, and I've meant to get to
1:02:21
this earlier, but now that we were talking about Rico
1:02:24
last night, I figured that's a great segue into this
1:02:27
so that we can see the parallels and the eventual
1:02:30
blueprint for how rainier he was taken down. Prosecutor Morapenza
1:02:36
told jurors during her closing statement, a crime boss with
1:02:39
no limits and no checks on his power. Boy, that
1:02:43
sure describes Jeffrey Epstein. Huh wouldn't it be nice if
1:02:46
the prosecutors would use such strong language in regards to
1:02:50
Jeffrey Epstein, wouldn't that be nice? What differentiates him from
1:02:55
Keith Rainiery or Weinstein? Why would they go so hard
1:03:00
and go after these men and use every trick at
1:03:04
in their disposal, every piece of artillery in their disposal,
1:03:08
and slap the rico charges on. But they didn't do
1:03:10
that against Epstein. What are they hiding? What are they
1:03:13
scared that they'll uncover? Rainieri's lawyers had argued that the
1:03:18
sexual acts in which Rayniery was involved were consensual. That
1:03:23
sounds familiar, doesn't it, and that women join nexium of
1:03:26
their own volition. Oh yeah, exactly right. That's exactly what
1:03:30
happened with all of the high school girls from with
1:03:31
Jeffrey Epstein too. That was exactly what they wanted to
1:03:34
do at fourteen years old, be molested by his ugly ass.
1:03:37
That's exactly what occurred. During lawyer Mark Agnafilo's closing statement,
1:03:44
he said, of Rainiery, you might find a lot of
1:03:46
things about him distasteful. Yeah, that's putting it lightly, but
1:03:50
most of them aren't part of the charges. Yeah, right,
1:03:53
bro give me a break. This guy was full on
1:03:55
involved in laundering money, was full on involved in fraud,
1:04:00
was full on involved in sex trafficking, you name it.
1:04:03
This guy was involved in it, just like our boy
1:04:06
Jeffrey Epstein, but to a smaller degree. Right, this guy
1:04:09
wasn't on Jeffrey Epstein's level when it comes to running
1:04:12
in the power circles that Epstein ran in, or at
1:04:15
the levels of Jeffrey Epstein's trafficking ring. And yet they
1:04:20
pulled out all the stops and slapped him with conspiracy charges,
1:04:23
slapped him with racketeering charges. But no one in the
1:04:27
Epstein enterprise or the Epstein organization as I like to
1:04:31
call them at this point were slap with rico charges.
1:04:34
None of them got slapped with forfeiture and seizure of
1:04:37
their property. Why just that's the question that needs to
1:04:41
be answered. And until somebody can give me a logical
1:04:44
answer on why Epstein was given beneficial treatment as opposed
1:04:49
to these other billionaires and other power players, there is
1:04:52
only one answer, folks, and the evidence has led us
1:04:54
there from the very beginning. Since early May, former high
1:04:59
ranking Nexium member and sex slaves have taken the stand
1:05:02
to deliver harrowing testimonies against Rayniery, with particular focus on
1:05:07
dos A hierarchical group comprised of masters and slaves. And
1:05:12
you see, this is what I'm talking about. The low
1:05:15
level folks in the organization were forced to turn on
1:05:18
the higher level folks because of the rico charges, the
1:05:21
conspiracy charges, the racketeering charges. Once you're looking at twenty
1:05:25
these racketeering charges, if they go all the way to
1:05:28
the you're looking at twenty years, twenty years per charge.
1:05:32
We're not talking about twenty years. Concurrently, each one of
1:05:34
these charges is gonna carry twenty years, and they're gonna
1:05:36
go for the gusto. This is the federal government. They
1:05:39
love to do that shit. So if you think that
1:05:42
that's not a motivating factor, and having these people start
1:05:45
rolling over on each other and ratting each other out,
1:05:48
you see it right here. These people are not built
1:05:50
for this life. They're not from the streets. They don't
1:05:52
live by the street code, if there is even that
1:05:55
these days, right, But as far as being rats, they
1:05:59
don't care about that. They're gonna rat on their friends
1:06:01
and then they're gonna go right back to the marina,
1:06:03
or right back to Martha's vineyard or wherever the hell
1:06:05
these rich people are hiding in their Heidi holes when
1:06:08
they're sex offenders. But for normal people, you rat there's
1:06:13
gonna be consequences, right, So these people were never built
1:06:16
for this life in the beginning from the jump. These
1:06:18
people were you know, brought in by promise of wealth.
1:06:25
Some of them just wanted to belong et cetera, et cetera.
1:06:28
But when you start throwing the rico charges around like
1:06:30
they did in this case at the lower level people involved,
1:06:34
you're gonna start racking up the arrests, and not only
1:06:36
the arrests, you're gonna get the indictments, and you're gonna
1:06:40
get a lot of plea deals. A lot of these
1:06:42
low level people are gonna get off of two, three,
1:06:44
four years, right, and of course we want some of
1:06:47
them to do a lot more time than that. But
1:06:49
if their testimony helps nail people that were in charge
1:06:53
in leadership positions, then it's always acceptable to trade, in
1:06:57
my opinion, a low level operator for one of the
1:07:00
big head honchos who were behind the leadership role, who
1:07:03
were behind the decision making, who were you know, basically
1:07:07
the Corps four in Gilain Maxwell and Jean Luke Brunell
1:07:10
at this point. So what you have to do is
1:07:12
start rounding everybody up, slam everybody with the rigo charges,
1:07:16
and you get the results that we see here. In
1:07:22
one testimony, a former slave claim that Raynieri blindfolded her
1:07:26
and permitted another woman to sexually assault her, just like
1:07:30
Jeffrey Epstein with Nadia Marsonkova. Right, We've seen this mo
1:07:33
o from Epstein as well. Another woman testified that Raynieri
1:07:37
took photos of her that mostly featured her vagina. Again,
1:07:42
just like Jeffrey Epstein, all of the pictures. He has
1:07:46
to take a trophy. He has to have a trophy
1:07:48
from every one of his conquests. That's how these sick
1:07:51
people operate. Even before Rainieri's trial started, the five other
1:07:57
people charged for their alleged and volution inexium, including Smallville
1:08:02
actress Alison Mack, who admitted in court to being a
1:08:05
leader in the Secret Master Slaves a sorority, pleaded guilty
1:08:08
to the racketeering charges against them. Look, I'm telling you
1:08:12
right now, folks, I am telling you as sure as
1:08:14
we're sitting here right now. When you start getting racketeering
1:08:18
charges thrown at you, it is the end for you.
1:08:21
R Kelly got Rico charges thrown at him as well.
1:08:25
So again, if it's good for if it's good enough
1:08:27
for r. Kelly, why is it not good enough for
1:08:28
Jeffrey Epstein. Now you see, as I just pointed out here,
1:08:33
that Alison Mack right away pleaded guilty to the racketeering
1:08:36
charges because each of them hold a twenty year sentence
1:08:39
and she wants not She wanted nothing to do with that.
1:08:41
She's hoping that her cooperation against dray Neery will get
1:08:46
her a lesser sentence. And look, again, that's a situation
1:08:53
where I don't believe that either of them should get
1:08:55
a light sentence. I look at Alison Mack and Keith
1:08:57
Rayniery kind of like Epstein and Gulayne right the two
1:09:00
heads of the organization, both in leadership roles, and both
1:09:04
people must pay for what they have done. But you see,
1:09:08
once you see the racketeering charges come out, you start
1:09:11
seeing plea deals across the board, and people start cooperating
1:09:15
because nobody is built for that twenty year life in
1:09:17
federal prison. I'm very sorry for the victims of this case,
1:09:22
Max said during her guilty plea. I'm very sorry for
1:09:26
who I have hurt through my misguided adherence to Keith
1:09:29
Rainiery's teachings. Now Rainieri awaits this sentencing, which is scheduled
1:09:35
for September, he faces life in prison. So look, that's
1:09:39
the blueprint right there. I'm telling you right now that
1:09:42
the Rico angle is the way to go after these people.
1:09:45
And if you use that Rico angle properly, you're going
1:09:49
to be able to get not only arrests in this case,
1:09:53
you're gonna get convictions because there's no way, zero chance
1:09:57
any of these people Vicars or or or Crow or
1:10:04
Adriana Ross or any of these girls are Marson Kova
1:10:09
are going to be able to stand up tall and
1:10:11
not rat on their friends when they're looking at these
1:10:14
these sort of racketeering charges, because this is this is
1:10:18
serious business. We're talking about twenty years per charge. And
1:10:21
you see how quickly Alison Mack was willing to just say,
1:10:24
you know what, I'm going to just plea. I'm going
1:10:26
to take the plea deal and I'm going to cooperate
1:10:29
against Keith Rainiery and hope that you know, things work
1:10:33
out in the way. I hope they work out, because
1:10:35
at this point, when you're somebody like Mac in a
1:10:38
leadership role, you're up against it right, you have no,
1:10:41
you don't have a pot to pisson, as they say,
1:10:44
you're really up against it, and you're gonna be the
1:10:46
one that's going down, especially in these leadership roles, because
1:10:50
all of your little henchmen are going to start rolling
1:10:53
over on you on a regular basis, one after the other,
1:10:57
because they don't want to do that federal time. It's
1:11:00
pretty obvious, right, Look, these people are quick to roll
1:11:06
over on each other, even in criminal enterprise these days.
1:11:09
I'm talking about hardened criminals. So if you think that
1:11:12
these girls aren't going to start singing like mockingbirds, I
1:11:16
have news for you. They're going to because there is
1:11:21
there's the blueprint. The blueprint is right here. Here is
1:11:24
the blueprint right here on how to go after Jeffrey
1:11:26
Epstein and his co conspirators as well, because I'm telling
1:11:29
you right now, they will start ratting on each other
1:11:35
the second they get these racketeering charges thrown their way.
1:11:41
All right. So there's also another article from a publication
1:11:45
called Art Voice, and this was published on June sixteenth
1:11:50
of twenty eighteen, and it's by an attorney from Albany
1:11:56
that goes by a pseudonym. All Right, So the headline is,
1:12:01
let's get fact straight about RICO as it relates to
1:12:04
Alison Mack and Keith Rayner's case. So what this does.
1:12:08
It's going to show you how RICO is useful in
1:12:12
a case like Nexium and in the Jeffrey Epstein case
1:12:16
as well. Let's get a few facts straight about RICO.
1:12:20
The overall purpose of the RICO statute is to allow
1:12:23
for the prosecution of criminal acts that are committed as
1:12:26
part of an ongoing criminal organization. Check. We know that
1:12:29
that was occurring in the Jeffrey Epstein case, right, We
1:12:32
know for a fact that that was occurring. We had
1:12:34
all the money laundering going on. We had the actual
1:12:37
human trafficking aspect, we had the tampering with witnesses, we
1:12:41
had the paying off of witnesses, et cetera, et cetera.
1:12:45
In practice, a RICO prosecution usually focuses on the leaders
1:12:49
of a criminal organization who order illegal acts to be committed,
1:12:53
and allows those leaders to be prosecuted for those illegal acts. Example,
1:12:58
if the leader of a criminal organisation orders a member
1:13:01
to murder someone else and the murder is carried out,
1:13:04
the leader, along with the member who actually committed the
1:13:07
crime can be prosecuted for murder. And that's what RICO does.
1:13:12
It bypasses all of the defenses put into place for
1:13:15
people like Jeffrey Epstein, and it allows the prosecution to
1:13:19
manhandle him and to go in there and really start
1:13:22
slapping people around. And I'm telling you right now, this
1:13:26
is a huge deal, a huge weapon. It's a bazuka.
1:13:30
It is a bazuka, and they need to use it.
1:13:35
Rico prosecution or prosecutions are based on alleged i legal
1:13:38
acts that constitute at least one of a list of
1:13:41
twenty seven federal crimes or eight state crimes. These are
1:13:45
called predicate offenses, and of relevance to Nexium and its leaders.
1:13:49
They include such things as blackmail check for us in
1:13:52
Epstein right, bribery, another check for the Epstein case, extortion,
1:13:57
check for the Epstein case fraud, whoa, what do you know?
1:14:00
Another check for the Epstein case money laundering? Ding ding ding,
1:14:03
we have a winner. Another check for the Epstein case. Slavery.
1:14:07
Oh well, there you go. Another one in the in
1:14:10
the in the column of yep that happened in the
1:14:12
Jeffrey Epstein case. Theft, Yeah, we got that too. Bringing
1:14:16
in aliens to the US. You know, how about some
1:14:19
you know, fourteen year old triplets or Nadiam Marsonkova or
1:14:22
et cetera, et cetera. Got that as well, huh? Or
1:14:27
or and bringing in aliens to the US or helping
1:14:29
them enter for financial gain. Ding ding ding ding ding
1:14:32
ding ding. We have a winner. You get a car.
1:14:34
You get a car. Everybody gets a car. I mean,
1:14:36
are you kidding me? This is this is everything that
1:14:39
they slapped next to them with applies to Jeffrey Epstein
1:14:43
as well. In order for RICO to be invoked, the
1:14:49
defendant must have participated in at least two qualifying criminal
1:14:53
acts within a ten year period, and the axe must
1:14:56
be related to one another. So that would mean the
1:14:59
money launder as well as bringing people in from a
1:15:03
foreign country and have it connected. And that's very easy
1:15:05
for the investigators to do. For the prosecution to do,
1:15:08
all you need is a couple of competent forensic accountants
1:15:11
and its money in the bank. In this case, for
1:15:13
Jeffrey Epstein, this is a zero doubt about that. When
1:15:17
a RICO case is initiated, the prosecution can seek a
1:15:20
pre trial restraining order or injunction that temporarily freezes the
1:15:24
defendant's assets. Well what do you know, how what have
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I been talking about for months now? And or seek
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to have the defendant post a substantial performance bond. Either
1:15:36
of those actions can make it difficult for a defendant
1:15:38
to access the funds they need to hire a defense attorney.
1:15:42
Looks like Claire has already gotten around this by establishing
1:15:45
trust to pay defense attorneys for her and others. But
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you see how that's important, right. It's one another tool
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for the government to make life difficult for people that
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are getting slapped with RICO charges. And it again, everything
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that they use against Nexium applies to the Epstein criminal
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operation as well. So make sure you're asking yourself as
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we're going through this. Never keep the question far from mind.
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Why was Epstein afforded protection that nobody else was afforded.
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Anyone convicted under RICO can be fined up to twenty
1:16:18
five thousand dollars and sentenced to twenty years in federal
1:16:21
prison per count. Now you see why it's such a
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dangerous law per count, boy, oh boy. In addition, they
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can also be ordered to forfeit all ill gotten gains
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and pay treble damages all ill gotten gains. And that
1:16:38
again is where the forensic accountant would come in. That's
1:16:40
definitely above my pay grade. I wouldn't know how to
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chase that money down, but I sure as shit can
1:16:44
tell you. That's how it all works. That's how these
1:16:46
people go after it. That's how they do it. And
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remember what I told you earlier. If you follow the drugs,
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you're gonna end up at a drug dealer's house. If
1:16:55
you follow the money, you're gonna end up at the
1:16:57
distributor's house. RICO also has a civil component that allows
1:17:05
individuals to bring RICO actions against the leaders of criminal organizations.
1:17:09
Successful plaintiffs may also be awarded trebled damages. You can
1:17:13
pretty much count on this happening after the criminal trials
1:17:16
are over. So again, not only do they have the
1:17:19
survivors have RICO at their fingertips when it comes to
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these people being prosecuted afterwards, they can use the RICO
1:17:26
civil statutes as well and go after them civilly. In
1:17:32
addition to the federal RICO Statute, a major a majority
1:17:35
of states has also enacted their own RICO statutes. New
1:17:38
York is one of those states. These state statutes generally
1:17:42
expand the list of underlying crimes that can be used
1:17:44
as the basis for bringing a Rico prosecution. They're making
1:17:48
it real damn easy to bring Rico charges and yet
1:17:51
we don't have any. And yet Berman has nobody brought in.
1:17:54
They're not shaking any trees, not kicking over any ants,
1:17:58
any these high Nope, nothing, just running around acting like
1:18:03
you know, the calling Prince Andrew out, acting like they're
1:18:05
actually doing something, but in reality there's no movement. Right,
1:18:09
let's go, let's get busy, mister Berman, or are you
1:18:12
going to get undercut by Denise George and the Virgin Islands?
1:18:15
Because at this point she seems like the more likely
1:18:18
of the two to really pursue this and to really
1:18:20
go after these people. So are Rico prosecutions a possibility
1:18:25
as regards to the leaders of Nexium, of course, will
1:18:29
the Feds go that route, We'll have to wait to
1:18:32
find out. And we know that they did go that route.
1:18:34
We know that they did get charged and found guilty
1:18:38
on the accounts of racketeering, they pled guilty, et cetera,
1:18:41
et cetera. If the FEDS decide to indict Claire and
1:18:46
or Sarah Bronfman, they might attempt to level the playing
1:18:49
field by couching the case as a RICO prosecution and
1:18:52
seek to freeze at least some of their assets, but
1:18:55
they could just as easily charge them under a variety
1:18:58
of federal criminal statutes and or make referrals to state prosecutions.
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The latter probably won't happen until there's a district attorney
1:19:05
in Albany County or Saratoga County that hasn't been compromised
1:19:09
or corrupted by nexium, and that ends today's overview on RICO.
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There you have it, folks. Now, I'm not a legal professional,
1:19:20
certainly not a lawyer, you know, I don't even pretend
1:19:22
to know the you know, the statutes and all of
1:19:25
the laws or anything like that. But one law I
1:19:27
do know is RICO. I've seen it wielded by the
1:19:30
federal government on people that I care about. I know
1:19:32
exactly how they roll. And the fact that they're not
1:19:35
using the Rico statutes to go after Epstein's co conspirators
1:19:39
it just again, it leaves a stench of stink hanging
1:19:43
over the case, because if they were serious about justice,
1:19:46
if they were serious about bringing these people down, then
1:19:49
they would slap them with these Rico charges and the
1:19:51
ball would get rolling and it would be game on.
1:19:57
So I wanted to, like I said, I wanted to
1:19:59
talk about this Nexium a little bit tonight. That way
1:20:02
we could see the parallels between the two and see
1:20:05
how RICO is applicable in the Epstein case as well
1:20:08
as this Nexium case. So hopefully this gave you a
1:20:12
little bit more of an idea, a bit of an
1:20:14
overview about what RICO is and how it can be used.
1:20:17
And I know there's been some confusion and some people,
1:20:20
you know, not too sure what the laws are or
1:20:22
what they can do, or you know, how they work
1:20:25
and how they're administered. Well, this gives you, like I said,
1:20:29
a blueprint, in my opinion, and a template on how
1:20:33
the government should conduct themselves going after Epstein. But in
1:20:37
the Epstein case they should be even more aggressive. Considering
1:20:40
how many people were involved, it was young children, and
1:20:43
how many decades this spent. This should be an all
1:20:47
out full court press by the government slapping everybody ever
1:20:50
involved Wexner, Dubin, et cetera, et cetera, name them all
1:20:54
in the Rico count the Rico case, and then let
1:20:58
the forensic accountants and the invest stigators sort it all out.
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There's just no reason for this not to be RICO
1:21:04
at this point. So all right, folks, I'll be back
1:21:07
later on tomorrow morning, I should say, with the usual
1:21:10
morning update and the daily drop. If you'd like to
1:21:13
contact me, you can do that at Bobby Kapucci at
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