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FSU Basketball There It Is · North Florida Sports Network Podcast

• 0:14
  Speaker 1: Hey, welcome back to the North Florida Sports Networks.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: It's just one and hoops.
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: There it is.
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: Hoops.
• 0:26
  Speaker 2: There it is my man 63, 62.
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: Always good to get those midweek wins.
• 0:33
  Speaker 2: What'd I say?
• 0:34
  Speaker 2: Hammer the over right.
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a dynamite and that was a display of bricklaying out there in that second half it was man.
• 0:46
  Speaker 1: Restaurant calling anything.
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: No, no, both sides, though, 10 free throws total for the whole game.
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's incredible.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: Got to be a record low, you know I thought that it would be reverse on this road trip.
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: I thought they would lose this game and win the Louisville game, but they did the complete opposite.
• 1:11
  Speaker 1: I still think you need to.
• 1:14
  Speaker 2: They stole this game, man, yeah they stole this game.
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: Boston College is better team in Louisville, yeah.
• 1:23
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's funny, is BC.
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: Green Jr needs to make that free throw at the end, because they got the ball who.
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: They got the ball in the hands of the guy they wanted to and he missed the front end of the one and one.
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: But that Right.
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: Both.
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: I think he missed both one and one attempts on the front end.
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: Again, two or four, two or four, two or four.
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: On the night Free throw shooting will lose you ball games.
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: They lost in the ball game against the North Carolina Tar Heels and Bamner lost to this game, but the state was able to hold on and you know, yeah, their head above water in terms of 500.
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: They're now 13 and nine we still got postseason, and seven and four tie for fourth in the ACC.
• 2:18
  Speaker 2: That's the thing.
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know like you look at the overall record and you kind of figure there's no way for NCAA tournament.
• 2:28
  Speaker 2: But if you finish in that top four of the ACC, you get that first round by.
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: Well, you don't worry about at large, you're not going at large, no no, no, no, You're talking about thinking it is maybe winning the tournament realistic if you get lucky.
• 2:45
  Speaker 2: You got to get hot.
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: I mean you're not, yeah, yeah.
• 2:48
  Speaker 1: And you got to get that four C.
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to get that top four C, so you're going to limit the amount of games having to play Of course, yeah, so that's the only shot you have and right now they still have a shot.
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: They're in the fourth place.
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: Right but bigger picture and it puts the pressure on you lose this game.
• 3:08
  Speaker 2: Now you start looking at the NIT actually being like a toss up yeah, which would suck Right.
• 3:15
  Speaker 2: You know what it looked like a really promising step forward for the team coming off last year.
• 3:20
  Speaker 2: Well, this is the ACC stall out.
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: I like what the commenter said.
• 3:26
  Speaker 1: I forgot who his name was.
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 3:29
  Speaker 2: But that's all right, he's forgettable.
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: He did say the ACC was being undervalued, but I think he's on the ACC network.
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: What do you expect?
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: Right, I mean.
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: But I agree though, and this I think it is, I think it's polarized, I think, overall here maybe a little cannibalization here, but I think it's worthy of four or five teams.
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: And to make it now whether that who you saw tonight, clemson, went on the road and beat North Carolina, okay, as a team that you thought was the mainstay of the climbs.
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: Climbson is going to be the state.
• 4:12
  Speaker 1: Just just hang with North Carolina, If it wasn't for free throws and officiating right.
• 4:17
  Speaker 1: They win that game right so you're talking about.
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: Not I'm not saying that as a diss on North Carolina, which I think is a tournament team.
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying I think this conference is deeper than just Duke in North Carolina.
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think at most they'll probably ACC might get four teams in well, they need it.
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: That was.
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: That was more of just a polarizing take at the time.
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's of the camelization.
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: But that's.
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: It can be that when it comes to these resumes, when it comes to compare and against other conferences at this time of year well, something to consider also is, you know, basketball.
• 4:56
  Speaker 2: College basketball isn't the draw that college football is, but it's clearly number two right and it's still the same two conferences that Are number one and two in terms of network deal and.
• 5:13
  Speaker 2: Money being put into each and every member school in terms of this game Tonight hoops.
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: There it is tonight by a thread.
• 5:24
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: They tried to give it away.
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: Let's go to the stats.
• 5:28
  Speaker 1: Jameer Watkins was your lead scorer, with ten.
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: That tells you all you need to know.
• 5:34
  Speaker 2: The only, the only no in double figures ten, ten points, darren.
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: Green.
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, darren Green Jr had eight a chance to go to double figures but miss the front end of that last one on one.
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: But those are tough free throws.
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: Boba Miller five points yeah rough night shooting.
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: For Boba, I Will say Jayden Warley.
• 5:59
  Speaker 2: They then Warley had six, six points.
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: But clutch fast six six rebounds the game winning hoop yeah it turned out to be, which should have been an and won.
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: I mean it looked like he got hit midair, wrapped it around, went under, had some spin on the ball and still finished.
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: It was a great.
• 6:22
  Speaker 1: I mean he does this, you know, he shows his ability.
• 6:26
  Speaker 2: He has these blasts where he's like dang yeah you can see that you can see why he's highly touted if he was a better finisher at the room, and he's going to be, he would get more calls.
• 6:38
  Speaker 2: He gets no calls.
• 6:40
  Speaker 2: He has no calls.
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: That was a foul, it's, it's, I've ever seen it.
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and how did that not get called?
• 6:47
  Speaker 2: There are two things.
• 6:47
  Speaker 2: Man number one he's six, seven.
• 6:49
  Speaker 2: He's bigger than a lot of the guys he's driving against because he's you know there's guards that are up against them smaller guys.
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: He gets into the lane and he misses shots, but he doesn't finish like rest well, he finished that one.
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, rest are just like.
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: I can see that.
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: Like what's the boy like if you're allowed to just Fall him, but man, he finished anyway.
• 7:12
  Speaker 1: That was, that was the winning basket and he delivered, getting fouled, not being called, and made it anyway to provide the Seminoles the points needed to get out of dodge right with the one point win.
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: That's the one thing about Warley.
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: You know his jump shot.
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: It is what it is at this point.
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: There's a reason why he's starting.
• 7:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and I think it's just finishing at the rim.
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: If you got like you remember?
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: Like Trent Forrest, ugly shot, dude his ability.
• 7:47
  Speaker 2: But, his ability to finish and get to the rim and to finish and get the end one.
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: He doesn't have the consistency.
• 7:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah it's not consistent enough.
• 7:55
  Speaker 2: Hopefully it continues to get there.
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: I mean dude.
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: He played like the hit.
• 7:59
  Speaker 1: He stepped up though he stepped up in that he was the bright side of the Louisville game.
• 8:04
  Speaker 2: He was the one shining better all Chinese star.
• 8:07
  Speaker 2: He's been better all season.
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: Right, he just has a little trouble with the shot a little bit.
• 8:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, but the offensive end is he missed a big wide open three.
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: You know I'm sure he'll look at the tape.
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: He won't like that.
• 8:21
  Speaker 2: But I'm honestly man, I'm fine with him, not even not even taking those, those streets, as long as you, right, just work on.
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: I feel like he did, because he was open and I get to the rim.
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: I like the three-point shot he took.
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: I don't think it was forced.
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: I meant I think he was in control of the offense.
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: I like his demeanor, he looks to take more of a leadership role.
• 8:44
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's who him was talking about when he questioned the leadership and he was questioning who's gonna step up?
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: Not necessarily.
• 8:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're a bad guy, but I think he was.
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: Well, you have the line, so I'm gonna rain right, right, right, just saying that, hey, somebody needs to step up.
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: You guys are cool, everybody's chilling, but who's gonna just like Get us fired up here?
• 9:11
  Speaker 1: Who's gonna galvanize us together?
• 9:13
  Speaker 2: right, right.
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I mean, and sometimes you, sometimes you got to sacrifice some things to get a guy like that on your roster.
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you're not gonna be able to get a guy that has that leadership, that fire in them that's gonna be six, five and plays guard.
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: You know, maybe he's only six one.
• 9:33
  Speaker 2: I want to see Bo Bowen play more.
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Bo Bowen season in corners or.
• 9:41
  Speaker 2: At this point he's a freshman, not a hundred percent wide.
• 9:46
  Speaker 2: The ontagreen starts nickel berry.
• 9:49
  Speaker 1: Nickel berry solid too.
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not against him playing more either.
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: I'm really not.
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they, hey, Everybody had their night in their moment tonight but it, it Deontay green.
• 10:05
  Speaker 1: He had four points but zero rebounds, zero assist.
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: And he looks bigger, bigger deal is zero rebounds, right, and you saw the last game.
• 10:17
  Speaker 1: He kind of loses cool.
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: Well, just I had the travel.
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: We had a turnover tonight.
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got, you got two other options out there.
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: I mean I don't know, I mean maybe, maybe he's, he's on the floor for defensive reasons yeah, he starts.
• 10:33
  Speaker 2: Maybe that's a change coming, maybe I mean, you know we traditionally the sixth and seventh man have always been like starters anyway, right, but I like what Bowen has.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: Man, I'd like I like you know corn and Bowen Coming off the bench, both give you a huge boost.
• 10:53
  Speaker 2: I Just, I Don't know, I don't know.
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: Man they need, they need a shooter more rebounds to Mean.
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: Amen Thank goodness for Jaylen Worley, though, and Jameer, those are the guys who are rebounding you the ball.
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the other ones gathering.
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: Six rebounds for Jaylen Worley huge.
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: Now you had Jameer Watkins with six rebounds and you had Jaylen Worley with six rebounds, and it seems to be a he had.
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: He had five of those rebounds within the first ten minutes of the first.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: First half.
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: That's every night and that's just the dog in a man and I'm not seeing it out of the bigger guys.
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not seeing that same tenacity.
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was rough.
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Bob has had a rough road trip.
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah he did have three, get three boards.
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: He had a steel and he had a block.
• 11:52
  Speaker 2: Yet a couple.
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: It's the consistency with a lot, of, a lot of guys.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: We'll see, but you know, most importantly is you got the win in a game that you had to have, right, chas Kelly.
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: The third was Boston College.
• 12:15
  Speaker 2: After a brutal after a brutal loss like it can't be, like just it can't be ignored, man, like that has an effect on the team.
• 12:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't.
• 12:25
  Speaker 2: What was it three days ago?
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, two days ago, saturday night, it was a late night.
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: I had to wear on, so you got it it looked like they came out like this game A heartbreaking loss.
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the way you started and almost lost it.
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: It was 19 to two.
• 12:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: Started out 19 to you.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: Held on.
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: I mean we're holding on this team's not.
• 12:49
  Speaker 2: I mean you face two different opponents.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: You face a team in Louisville that was just athletically they could match you, and that, that kid man, he had just a historic night, whatever 10 points for Jameer Watkins, Six rebounds, three steals, three blocks.
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: I mean come on, man, that last block was huge.
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: Jameer Watkins for a second.
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been the player that you know.
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: The big, bright, shining star of this season has been none other than Jameer Watkins, right?
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you can look at anything, this so far this season has been like, wow, this kid is a budding star and I want him next year.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: Right, I mean, I think he's.
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: We'll see.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: Hopefully Got another year.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: Hopefully, man.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, college basketball is so much different now, but yeah, but he had a name.
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: He can establish his name.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: Now he's got, he can be the preseason.
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, God you know he's never been there, so he could have a change.
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: I don't.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody who has eligibility left on the team should think about foregoing that and trying to play professional basketball.
• 14:07
  Speaker 2: But again, that's just me.
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, and I thought something was interesting.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: During the broadcast, commentator made a note that Leonard Hamilton told him he has three, seven footers next year, so that that that was interesting to me.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: I I see what lights up.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I, I assume Bob Ommel was one of them.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know it count him as a seven footer.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: He's six, eleven or whatever, but the other two, hmm, yeah, I like it, like it.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: I like it, like it.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: Well, it's a big win for the Knowles to keep the momentum going.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: I know that the NCAA tournament is just a pipe dream.
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's good to have that you gotta.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Everybody's still driving for that.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course and you want to try to be playing the best at you.
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: Well, you go out there to win every night right.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: And you can only do that by having a winning record and and keeping this.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: And I want I think right now, the the as a fan, if you're watching the games is to finish top four in the NCC.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's the goal.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's something.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: We won nine games you beat Lipscomb and you beat Georgia, which you should have won, and I argue that they would have won if the team was full strength and they had the complement of their roster Entitled as they should have been based on the whole field.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Well, that, yeah, that's, that's a whole being said.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: That being said, you had you.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: You didn't come into conference play giving yourselves any favors with a 500 record.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you've done nothing but improve that in conference play.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: But you have to have your.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: You have to give yourself the best opportunity to win the tournament, I guess and if you get a top four seed, it looks like you're gonna make the NIT as well.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: I would say, right, right, we go.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Let's say, even if you go, you finish top four in the ACC, you're gonna, you're gonna be in the IT.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: I think that's something that needs to be for a team that won galvanized nine games last right, the worst season in Program history.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: Right, which is almost shocking to even say and started the season with.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: You know Already down a man right Primo, getting held out seems better corn braces toe, that's your out out for the season.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, even the NIT would be an accomplishment.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah and again.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Some guys need to come back, you know.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Come back.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: You had a couple pieces.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: May you get back in the tournament.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Basketball is so much Easier to flip over.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Give coach hand one last ride.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Be nice, man.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: I'm just glad they were able to go Hold on to this one.
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: How about you and Seagin beat at home, oh, clemson with the big road win?
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man, they're turning the team.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: They really are.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: And that's what I was saying.
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: When you talk about the ACC and getting two teams, I'm like what about Clemson?
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: They got some bad teams.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, I saw them, they look like a good team.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I mean maybe some bad losses, but the conference of Virginia's getting it, getting some stuff together, yeah.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Virginia is playing really well, right now Should get four teams to five.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Maybe it should.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: It should.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: I'm saying three maybe four Max.
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: I think it's underrated, but it's going to be those four.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: It's going to be UNC, Duke, Virginia, Clemson.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Those are going to be the four teams that are already being talked about, singled out Like those are the only ones that got a shot outside of somebody making you know, going under, yeah, under speed, you got outliers like a Virginia Tech and the weight of the Florida State Virginia Tech stuff.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: They got beat by Miami.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: That was it.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Miami got beat by Virginia that was it Miami man?
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: All the hype coming in this year.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah Well, they've had some injury luck.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I was saying there's a lot of intrigue to the conference tournament.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: They're not as good.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: They lost Wong and Miller and they didn't replace them with guys that were as good.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh right, yeah, yeah, it's hard to replace NBA guys.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Hey, hey man.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Super Bowl.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: You're Niners, man Got no shot.
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: What's the line?
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: I know they're not still favored.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: That was the dumbest thing ever Like.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I can't believe they were favored to start out with.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on now, hold on.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I don't see a line on it.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's 1.5.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Niners favored by a point and a half.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Wow, right, that might happen.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: They might win by a point and a half.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: We're not going to win, they're going to lose by at least 10.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: So you're giving Patrick Mahomes a point and a half.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Take it to the bank.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: Is what you're saying, right, yeah, yeah.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Can you?
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: We'll preview that game.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got my thoughts and we'll do that next time Right here on the North Florida Sports Network Can't believe they arrested Killer Mike man.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: That's some bullshit.