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Episode 207. Giants in Asia: Ancient Evidence from China & Japan | Travis Roy · Wake Up with Miya

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  Speaker 1: A follower sent me a photo just like, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like it was two weeks before this interview. Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: And she sent me a picture of some giant mantrax,
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  Speaker 1: and she called it the Mongolia area is where she was.
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  Speaker 1: And I asked her, I was like, do you remember
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  Speaker 1: how long they were? Did you measure them? She said
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  Speaker 1: she didn't measure them, but she said, this is her words,
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  Speaker 1: they were pretty stinking big. So here's, let me show you. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Are there six toes there?
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  Speaker 1: Oh. Two, three. It could be six.
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  Speaker 2: It could be six, right?
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  Speaker 1: You can't tell. It's hard.
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  Speaker 2: My gosh, it sure does look like a six-toe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have another one here a little further off. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So she sent me that, and I thought, okay, there's
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  Speaker 1: a clue to giant in Lybolia.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. Stories of giants have been found in cultures around
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  Speaker 2: the world for thousands of years. And Asia is no exception.
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  Speaker 2: From ancient legends and historical accounts to newspaper reports and
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  Speaker 2: mysterious artifacts, many believe these stories may preserve memories of
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  Speaker 2: a forgotten chapter of human history. In today's interview, I'm
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  Speaker 2: joined once again by Travis Roy to explore giant traditions
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  Speaker 2: throughout China and Japan and other parts of Asia today.
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  Speaker 2: We discuss historical newspaper reports, ancient legends, mysterious discoveries, and
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  Speaker 2: whether these accounts could point to something much bigger than
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  Speaker 2: most people realize. Before we get started, if you enjoy
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  Speaker 2: or YouTube. Now, let's get into today's conversation. Enjoy the show. Aloha, Travis,
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  Speaker 2: and welcome back to the show. It's so good to
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  Speaker 2: have you back. I can't believe it's already been a
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  Speaker 2: year and a half since our last conversation when we
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  Speaker 2: talked about the giants in America. I really enjoyed our
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  Speaker 2: first conversation and... Apparently, the audience did too, because our
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  Speaker 2: interview reached over 15,000 views. So that's really great. And
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  Speaker 2: a lot has changed since then. My show has grown
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  Speaker 2: since then, and it's rebranded. My show used to be
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  Speaker 2: called Sensible Hippie when you first came on, and now
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  Speaker 2: it's Wake Up With Mia. So before we jump into
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  Speaker 2: the giants of Asia, can you catch us up a little?
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  Speaker 2: What have you been doing since we last talked? And
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  Speaker 2: For anyone who's discovering your work today, tell us how
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  Speaker 2: you got into your research with the Giants of America
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  Speaker 2: and where is the best place to follow your research?
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  Speaker 1: Okay. First of all, thanks for having me back. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited about today's topic. And, well, really since then,
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  Speaker 1: I've just been doing kind of the same. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I've been, I've gone to a conference and spoken about
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  Speaker 1: like giant footprints and stuff that's been found here in
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  Speaker 1: Texas that I, you know, I, It was published or
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  Speaker 1: discovered back in the 70s and even before that, but
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  Speaker 1: I went out and was able to find more. And
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  Speaker 1: so I've been doing stuff like that, being in the
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  Speaker 1: field and still plugging away at posting reports. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you can find my work at instagram.com slash giants underscore
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  Speaker 1: of underscore ancient America. And then there you can see
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  Speaker 1: my other links are listed there. It's going to be Facebook.
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  Speaker 1: TikTok and YouTube, but mostly I do my most of
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  Speaker 1: them on, well, I do them all, but I think
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  Speaker 1: my bigger following is Instagram. So that's kind of my hub.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's awesome. Now I heard on a last podcast
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  Speaker 2: that I heard you on that you mentioned that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, it cut out for a second.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned in the last podcast and you heard me
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  Speaker 1: say something.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I heard on the last podcast that I heard
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  Speaker 2: you on that you mentioned that there's a book that
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  Speaker 2: you're working on. Is that true? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been working on it. I started it and
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of a slow process, but I started in 2020. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's getting closer. It's getting really close. So what's getting
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  Speaker 1: close to the publishing part, right, to where you start
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  Speaker 1: putting it all together? together, formatting and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I can't wait. Oh, I can't wait for that.
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  Speaker 2: That would be amazing. So one thing that I've really
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  Speaker 2: been looking forward to is revisiting our conversation that we
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  Speaker 2: actually never recorded. After we wrapped up our last interview,
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  Speaker 2: we ended up talking quite a while about China, Japan,
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  Speaker 2: and some fascinating discoveries in Asia. So Honestly, that's probably
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  Speaker 2: my favorite part of the whole conversation that we had.
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  Speaker 2: But unfortunately, I already stopped recording. So today, I'd love
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  Speaker 2: to dive back into those topics and finally let my
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  Speaker 2: audience hear some of the great things that we talked
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  Speaker 2: about off air. So I'd like to start there. When
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  Speaker 2: you began researching Asia, what are some of the discoveries
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  Speaker 2: that you made with that rabbit hole in Asia with
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  Speaker 2: the giants?
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  Speaker 1: Sure. Okay. So years ago when I started this study,
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  Speaker 1: I was tracking a group of, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you want to call it, I guess I'll call them
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  Speaker 1: the Scythians. And they were right of north.
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  Speaker 2: Could you repeat that?
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Could you repeat that? It got froze.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. No, it's fine. No. So I was tracking
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  Speaker 1: a group called the Scythians. And so they were just
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  Speaker 1: north of the Levant. So the Holy Land and they
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  Speaker 1: were right. north and kind of in the Caucasus Mountain region.
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  Speaker 1: You had a group of Sumerians that were like cousins
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  Speaker 1: of theirs. And so I was tracking this group of
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  Speaker 1: people and I noticed as they went through the steps
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  Speaker 1: of like, well, just right in the middle of where
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  Speaker 1: Asia and Europe connect, right there in that area of Russia,
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  Speaker 1: that's kind of where they were hubbed. And so years ago,
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  Speaker 1: I came across them, and I noticed how they moved
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  Speaker 1: towards the west, and they all had the same customs as, like,
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  Speaker 1: I was able to track, like, there was some Canaanite
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  Speaker 1: burial in Israel area, and the guy was wearing a
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  Speaker 1: golden torc, like a neck torc, which torcs were like
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  Speaker 1: an open ring, a neck ring that these people would wear.
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  Speaker 1: And I also noticed that I had already known that
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  Speaker 1: the Celts had them, and Vikings. And so I was like, wait,
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  Speaker 1: these people are connected somehow. And then I also noticed
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  Speaker 1: the Scythians had them. So that's kind of how I
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  Speaker 1: got into like the Asian part. And I knew that
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  Speaker 1: they hadn't, I knew them tons of them, maybe more,
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  Speaker 1: or maybe it's even they, they traveled towards, uh, into Asia,
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  Speaker 1: but nobody reports on it or talks about it. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought me back to talk about this
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  Speaker 1: because I've been fascinated by it for so long. So
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  Speaker 1: I'll just jump right in.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, please.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to go to a report from 922 A.D.
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  Speaker 1: And this was this guy. His name was Ibn Fadlan.
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  Speaker 1: He was an Arab diplomat to the Volga Bulgars right
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  Speaker 1: there north of the Caucasus. OK, so he went there
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  Speaker 1: and he reported that he saw he called him Norseman.
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  Speaker 1: or you could call them Vikings, but they were right there,
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  Speaker 1: quite a ways away from Scandinavia and Europe. They were
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  Speaker 1: more close to the line of Asia and Europe right there.
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  Speaker 1: And so he describes them as being tall as date palms.
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  Speaker 1: And he said they were blonde and ruddy, and that's
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  Speaker 1: just north of the Black and Caspian Seas. And he also,
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  Speaker 1: he witnessed them erecting burial mounds. So I guess he
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  Speaker 1: was there and one of them had died. They did
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  Speaker 1: like some sort of cremation burial or cremation. And then
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  Speaker 1: they erected a tumulus, like a mound of earth over them.
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  Speaker 1: So he described them as being tall as date palms.
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  Speaker 1: Now a date palm is around 50 feet. So I
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  Speaker 1: know they weren't that tall, but they were very tall.
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  Speaker 1: So what were they? Were they nine feet, 10 feet?
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  Speaker 1: And so already right there, you had a report of
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  Speaker 1: some big people. And we can jump forward to a
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  Speaker 1: group called the Allens. Now, the Allens were descendants of
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  Speaker 1: the Scythians, or they were connected to the Scythian Sarmatians,
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  Speaker 1: which all these people are related. They just have different
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  Speaker 1: kingdoms at different times. So it would take a long
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  Speaker 1: time to get into all of that. But there's a
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  Speaker 1: fourth century historian named Marcellus is his name, his last name.
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  Speaker 1: He's a Roman. He was a Roman historian. And he
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  Speaker 1: described the Alans of almost all of their men are
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  Speaker 1: of great stature. And their hair generally blonde or fair.
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  Speaker 1: They also erected great burial mounds or kurgans. And so
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  Speaker 1: you have the same tradition and you're having kind of
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  Speaker 1: the same people. And so this is even further east
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  Speaker 1: into Asia. So I thought that was pretty fascinating. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to track these people, but you have to
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  Speaker 1: go to historians almost because I'm not able to find
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  Speaker 1: a lot of burials. But I do have some burials
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  Speaker 1: that I found. So we have a list of nomadic
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  Speaker 1: peoples who went into the steppes and went towards Asia
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  Speaker 1: and into Asia. And so all these people were kind
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  Speaker 1: of connected genetically. So you had the Pazric culture, which were,
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  Speaker 1: they said they were fair-haired and had tattoos. And that's
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  Speaker 1: another thing with those people that were mentioned along the Volga.
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  Speaker 1: They had tattoos. You have Sarmatians, the Allens. If you see,
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking over, I'm reading my notes because I made
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  Speaker 1: a lot of notes on this. The Massagetti, the Danhay,
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  Speaker 1: the Sacka, the Yuzis or Tarkarians, the Wusan, the Indo-Scythians
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  Speaker 1: who moved down into India. Of course, then you have
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  Speaker 1: the Vedas down in India, the Cambodjas. I'm probably going
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  Speaker 1: to butcher some of these, but the Parthians went into Iran.
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  Speaker 1: And then the ones that I like a lot here
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  Speaker 1: that we might want to look into a little bit
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  Speaker 1: are the Zangnus. It's the Zangnu Empire, which that was
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  Speaker 1: a real powerful empire in Mongolia. And they had mixed
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  Speaker 1: together with some of these Scythians. So they became a
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  Speaker 1: really big kind of admixture of all these different Asian
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  Speaker 1: and Scythian admixture peoples. And those are the ones that
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  Speaker 1: kind of were giving the Chinese some troubles with that
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  Speaker 1: Great Wall. So That was cool to come across them.
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  Speaker 1: And we can, I know that some of these, let
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  Speaker 1: me look here. So there were some of these that
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  Speaker 1: were like the Orats or the Tartars. They were kind
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  Speaker 1: of connected with some of the Mongolians. And they were
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  Speaker 1: giving the Chinese guys, like the Ming Emperor, supposedly they
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  Speaker 1: captured one of the Ming Emperors in like 1449. So
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  Speaker 1: they were really and I think I think that has
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  Speaker 1: to be why that wall was built. You know. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, history historians don't really they tell you what
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  Speaker 1: they tell you, but I feel like there's a whole
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  Speaker 1: lot of lost or suppressed history. So if we can
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  Speaker 1: kind of get ourselves there with the things they admit
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  Speaker 1: to what what else is going on or what's the
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  Speaker 1: what's the full story?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, in Mongolia, they they had
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  Speaker 2: found because they used to bury their loved ones in
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  Speaker 2: just the in the sand there. Yeah. And and the
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  Speaker 2: it's very dry there like Egypt. So when they found
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  Speaker 2: this skeletons, they found red hair in China. Yeah, they
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  Speaker 2: were finding red hair. So it's like, how are they finding,
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  Speaker 2: where did these red hair come from? They were obviously
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  Speaker 2: not Chinese people, but they were mixing. Eventually, they were
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  Speaker 2: mixing in into what they were today.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's... And they still could carry those traits.
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  Speaker 1: So you have, I think one of the reports was like,
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  Speaker 1: it was 60% Asian and like 40% or something like
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  Speaker 1: that of the Scythian, which that's, if you look at
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  Speaker 1: the So there is a, when I was looking at
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  Speaker 1: all these cultures, there is a group called the, you
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  Speaker 1: go back quite a ways to the, it's called the Yemnias.
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  Speaker 1: And that's a culture where all these came from. So
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  Speaker 1: the Scythians came from them. You had the Corded Ware people,
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  Speaker 1: the Bell Beaker people, and those went into Europe. And
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  Speaker 1: that's where all those massive stones are, right? So you
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  Speaker 1: have the Celtic tribes that came from them, Scandinavian tribes, Scythians, Sumerians.
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  Speaker 1: Baltic Slavs, Vizgoths, Ostrogoths, but they also moved, the Scythians
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  Speaker 1: moved towards the east, right? So that's where the Paziric
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  Speaker 1: culture is up in the Altai Mountains right there in Mongolia.
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  Speaker 1: And so that's what those are. And I would love
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  Speaker 1: to hear anything that you've come across too in like
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  Speaker 1: the Mongolia regions because somebody sent me, and I'll show
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  Speaker 1: you this, a follower sent me a photo just Just like,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it was two weeks before this interview. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: my gosh. And she sent me a picture of some
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  Speaker 1: giant mantrax, and she called it the Mongolia area is
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  Speaker 1: where she was. And I asked her, I said, do
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  Speaker 1: you remember how long they were? Did you measure them?
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  Speaker 1: She said she didn't measure them, but she said, this
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  Speaker 1: is her words, they're pretty stinking big. So here's, let
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  Speaker 1: me show you. I don't know if you can see that.
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  Speaker 2: Are there six toes there? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: One, two, three, four, five.
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  Speaker 3: One, two.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it could be six.
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  Speaker 2: It could be six, right?
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  Speaker 1: You can't tell. It's kind of hard.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh. It sure does look like a six-toe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have another one here a little further off.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it was in step. So she sent me that,
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  Speaker 1: and I thought, okay, there's a clue to giants in Lombolia.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Yes. So we have to use anything we can get
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  Speaker 1: to kind of confirm. So you can kind of see
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  Speaker 1: the Yamnaya people and the Corded Ware people. They became
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  Speaker 1: the Scythians. Or the Scythians came from them. We'll just
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  Speaker 1: say that. And so you can kind of see this
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  Speaker 1: region here in the center.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Where they spread all across here.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: So... And then you have, like, the Great Wall of China,
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  Speaker 1: where you had... different nomadic peoples coming down.
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  Speaker 4: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: And so that, which was cool to see the Chinese
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  Speaker 1: wall is just kind of, they just built it wherever
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  Speaker 1: they needed to build it. It wasn't like a circle.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, well, where are these people coming from? And
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  Speaker 1: then they erected this massive wall. I mean, isn't it like,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it could be 20 to 30 feet
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  Speaker 1: high in some spots.
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  Speaker 2: It is 45, I believe.
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  Speaker 1: 46.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, 46. The highest.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, the highest. Incredible, right? It's like, why? It's wild.
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  Speaker 2: That is wild. Exactly. Now I know that, um, shoot,
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  Speaker 2: do I have my notes here? There was, um, a legend.
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  Speaker 1: Let me see.
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  Speaker 2: I have it. Um, in China, they had a legend,
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  Speaker 2: the story of Fong Fong. Now I'm not Chinese, so
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  Speaker 2: I may be pronouncing that wrong, but, um, that in
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  Speaker 2: the chinese mythology they described a giant that stood around
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  Speaker 2: 33 foot tall 33 feet tall oh wow yes and
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  Speaker 2: he was supposedly a a benevolent giant and and he
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  Speaker 2: was um supposedly beheaded by uh somebody but i don't
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  Speaker 2: know how a 33-foot giant would be like, okay, you
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  Speaker 2: can behead me. I was bad.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he was executed by you, the great. Yes. Like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's incredible.
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  Speaker 1: And so if you have these legends, I believe that
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  Speaker 1: the stories and legends are built off of truth.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely. I was going to ask you about the
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  Speaker 2: Japanese histories. So in In Japan, there's a long history
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  Speaker 2: of stories about oni. And today, many people may know
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  Speaker 2: them through manga or anime. You know, they have those
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  Speaker 2: masks and folklores. But traditionally, they were described as huge
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  Speaker 2: horned beings with incredible strength, often living in mountains and
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  Speaker 2: remote places. So... Do you think these stories regarding the
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  Speaker 2: oni could be based on a real race of giants?
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  Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, I think so. Because Japan has, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and even, so if you look at the Korean peninsula
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  Speaker 1: and Japan, like this race of people that were living
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  Speaker 1: there at one point, or maybe they're still there. But
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  Speaker 1: they were erecting these massive dolmens. Like, it's huge. Like,
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  Speaker 1: I forget. I think it's like 40,000, maybe, dolmens in
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  Speaker 1: the Korean Peninsula. There's so many. And if you were
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  Speaker 1: to look at it, you thought you were looking at
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  Speaker 1: Ireland or something. So it's almost like the same exact
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  Speaker 1: building tech and style. And don't you have, even in Japan,
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  Speaker 1: you have megalithic walls, like huge blocks that are very
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  Speaker 1: similar to the ones you see down in Japan. Peru
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  Speaker 1: and Easter Island and places like that. It's just very similar.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, because those walls when I was in Japan, it's not,
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  Speaker 2: of course you have the squares, but sometimes you get
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  Speaker 2: those beveled weird shape. And I don't know how they
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  Speaker 2: have these bricks or stones and then the other side
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  Speaker 2: would lock in and they're different shapes. They're not, like
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  Speaker 2: I said, like bricks by bricks, but they actually have
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  Speaker 2: different weird shapes. It's almost like, my husband was saying,
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  Speaker 2: it's almost like concrete and how they would melt it
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  Speaker 2: and form them somehow. So it's incredible.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: And they're huge. When you stand there, the cornerstones are huge.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, tons and tons. Yeah, I think that you're right.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: There's got to be a connection with the old lore
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: and traditions of, I forget what you called them, the
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: horned giants. Because I had somebody send me, and I
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: may be skipping ahead, but somebody sent me photos of,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: whether drawings from an ancient book in Persia or Persia.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Iran.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: They were from Iran. And this is at least six
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: or seven years ago. Somebody, a follower sent me some
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: photos from one of their books. And it has these
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: giant beings in them. Here's one. So you have a
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: little guy down here.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: And you have this big giant here. You can kind
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: of see that. It's probably not Arabic. It's probably Persian
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: or something. There. But when you mentioned the Vorne beings.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: He sent me two, he sent me three photos from
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: this book. So you can see this guy has horns
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: and then so does this guy and like this one here. Yeah,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: it's there.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Can I, I can't see that.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Okay. I'm sorry.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Can you show me again?
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I can barely, no, I could barely see the horns.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Where's the horns at? Oh, okay.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Let me show you this one. This guy has horns.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: They're red.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, I see it now. He's laying down. Yes, yes.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's laying down.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: And so this other one here, you can bear it.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: The horns are kind of cut off, but they are
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: taking him before like a king or something like that.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: So this was sent to me from... So these are
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: traditions out of Persia or in the mountainous regions of Persia.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: So this is a report. So from what he told
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: me was... Okay, so these illustrations are approximately one to
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: 300 years ago of tales written in around the 12
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: to 1300s. So the tales were written in the 1200s,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: but the drawings are old. So I thought it was
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: really cool that they sent it to me. But now,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: especially since I'm doing a deep dive into Asia, it
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: helps build, you know, and so these would have been
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: possibly the same people that were in Japan, but a
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: group of them moved down into, down towards Persia. They
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: were right there in the mountains of Afghanistan and all these,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: these regions here.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: And it's not the first time, sorry, but it's not
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: the first time that giants have been said to have horns.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: Like I've uncovered articles.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: Of that.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask you, because I remember the
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: last time you mentioning that, that there was a newspaper
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: about a horned skull. So can you tell us about
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: that story again?
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: There's multiple. I mean, there's probably seven to ten that
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I've come across. So they're all over the U.S. It
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: wasn't super common, but they did have them occasionally. And
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I would call that a Nephilim trait. So a Nephilim
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: bloodline trait. So it's a trickle down, you know, abnormal trait.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: It'd be the same as having double rows of teeth
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: or maybe six digits on your toes. It's something that
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: wasn't supposed to happen. Well, it's not supposed to happen
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: because the bloodline wasn't supposed to be there, but it
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: got created. And so things like that happen. So it's
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: like extra thick bones, thick skulls. You know, sometimes you have...
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: horns i guess or some sort of growths off your
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: hand off your head i remember years ago seeing an
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: article of a older lady in china she wasn't large
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: but she had this weird horn growth that would keep
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: growing off of her head and they had to cut
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: it but it would just always grow and so it
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: makes you wonder like what kind of trickle down um
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: you know can you still see it today in some
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: you know spots in the world so i thought that
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: was like my eye caught that immediately i was like
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: oh That's some sort of a Nephilim trait, bloodline, that
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: just made its way down.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. And that photo that you showed with the
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: giant with red horns, now the Onis in Japan are usually,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: they depict them as red or blue.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Like their color?
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the color of their skin, though, red and blue.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: That's what they draw them as.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: That's interesting. Because I was going to get into, so
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: there is a report. And so Snorri Sturluson, he was
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: a Icelandic. He was reporting on old days in Scandinavia regions,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: right north of, you know, kind of Russia area. So
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: very north, just north of this area that we're talking about,
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: the steppes. And in his book, his book is around 1200,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: in 1200 AD is when it was written. A giving
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: history of Scandinavia in Sweden, he says, are many great
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: domains and many races of men. There are giants, there
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: are dwarves, and there are blue men. He actually says
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: blue men.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: So, I don't know, when you said that, it made
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: me think of that report. So there were many different
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: types of beings in these areas that these old historians
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: were talking about. You know, our historians now are like,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, even AI. No, there's no evidence that this
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: is ever real. It doesn't agree with modern archaeology or historians. Like, well,
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: we don't really care about that.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Exactly.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: We don't care. We want to know what the older
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: people said. And they'll dismiss them. Like, well, so-and-so said this,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: but there's not any. It's like, just stop right there.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: That's all we need to hear. That's all we need
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: to hear. But, you know, in that same area, North Russia...
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: So I came across a newspaper article, and this was
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: from 1901, that Professor Amalski from Warsaw University discovered in
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: North Russia skeletons of a race of giants nearly 10
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: feet in height. So these people, you know, they moved towards,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: they moved into Asia. And I, here's what I think.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: So you had a group, their leaders, and you mentioned this,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: you said, were these giants living among the regular people?
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: And I think they were. You had a group of
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: these Scythians called the Royal Scythians. So they seemed to
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: lord it over the other people. So you have these
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Alans and stuff that said all their men are of
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: great height, great stature. So what were their leaders like?
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm kind of thinking. So these royal Scythians,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: they were elite class of rulers or dominant tribe among
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: the broader Scythian nomadic group of people. They claimed descent
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: from a god, you know, so that's not a Nephilim.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: They were tall, robust with reddish hair, and they're described
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: as overlords. So they were lorded over the people. So
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I was curious, like, did they possess Nephilim traits of
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: great height, kind of like you know, the Allens were described,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: and even that, the Fadland guy said these guys were
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: as tall as date palms. Like, I've never seen somebody
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: so tall, he said. They were like date palms. And,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: you know, and robust, like, not just NBA basketball players. Stout, yes. So,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: that's what I'm thinking. As these Scythians moved around, they had,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: their leadership were, you know, extraordinary.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: Giants.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Size giants.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Because even with the Japanese stories of these Onis,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: they were stout. They were red. They were blue. Sometimes
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: they had one horn. Sometimes they had two horns. And
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: they were stout. And they were always making trouble. You know,
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: guarding for some reason or under bridges, things like that.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: When you did your research there, with the giants throughout Asia,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: did you also come across any unusual stories involving dragons?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Dragons? Oh, you know, I didn't even touch on the dragons.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: I was having a hard time, honestly, to come up with.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: I would type in skeleton, Asia. Like, I would just
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: throw stuff in there, and it just would find a lot.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: And it makes sense, though, because the newspapers, there's probably
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: a language barrier.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: And you didn't have a lot of, if you want
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: to call them Westerners, going in there to like dig up,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: you know, intrusively dig up burial mounds. And so I
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: think there's a lot. Here's what I will tell you,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: but I don't have anything on dragons that I came across.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Although I have heard of that, you know, of, actually,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I've been studying this for a while since you reached
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: out to me. I feel like I might have come
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: across some, stuff about dragons but I didn't write it
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: down but let me get to so you do have
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: these ancient burial mounds that were in that area geez
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: let me see I have a newspaper report that I
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: actually printed off. And then I'll go to the lore
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: of the giants that were in that area.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, here we go.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: So it says the great mounds in Asia area are
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: linked to early man. So this is a report that
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: they published in 1931. So scattered over A 1,400-mile trail
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: through Balkistan, Wazirstan, and parts of Afghanistan are great mounds
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: filled with human artifacts. It is announced in a recently
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: published memoir of the Archaeological Study of India. So I
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: need to get my hands on that. There's a book called,
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: a published book in the 1930s, I guess, called the
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Memoir of the Archaeological Study of India. So, these evidences
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: of a large and stable population in the distant past
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: were discovered by an expedition led by Sir Ariel Stein.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: The country now supports only a nomadic population and is
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: drying up rapidly into a desert. Some of the mounds
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: are immense of size. One is reported to be 113
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: feet high and a mile in circumference. out of which
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: are accured painted pottery, terracotta figures, and beads, it is
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: evidently the accumulation of centuries. Though this region ran the
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: old routes between Indus Basin and Persia and Mesopotamia, a
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: further study of the mounds from the mounds may shed
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: much light on the wonderings of man just before the
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: dawn of history. So there's some big mounds mentioned here,
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: And who knows if they've actually, I mean, that report
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: may tell us more. But that's something I came across.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: But there's another, I can find it here. There are
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: some of these, one of these reports said that there's
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: legends that giants were buried in these mounds from the
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Afghanistan area. Yeah, here we go. Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan. Epic heroes
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: described extraordinary large and strong, and the Kurgans, or burial mounds,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: are said to hold the remains of giants. So this
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: is their history, or their lore, or tales. So that's
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: what somebody there would tell you. And so I would
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: say you have to believe them.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely. And I do know that they... people migrated
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: from Israel to Japan, all the way from Israel area,
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: all the way to Japan, because I know a lot
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: of people don't talk about this, but just the Japanese priests,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: they actually had the black box on their head, just
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: like the priests in Israel.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about? So yeah, that was
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: before Christ, right? They were doing all those stuff. So
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know at what point they came to Japan,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: but Japan picked that up and they were doing the
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: same things.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Well, I will say this. Yeah. Well, we'll say this. Okay,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: so among the Scythians, this is something that's not talked
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: about very much. And this is a controversial subject. You
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: did have, so you have the southern kingdom of Judah
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: and you have the northern kingdom of Israel. which was
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: a group of 10 tribes. Now, there was a time
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: around 700, 720 BC that the Assyrian Empire, which is
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: right there, Persia, that area, they were a mighty empire.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: They came down and took all those 10 tribes out
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: and they put them in the Medes, cities of the Medes,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: cities of all these cities, and they blended in with
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: the Scythians. Now, there's a good chance or a very
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: high chance that the leadership of those ten tribes, because
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: they became pagan, and that's one reason that the Lord
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: God moved them out. He said he would, so he
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: kept his promise. But they had started to intermarry with
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the Canaanites and the Amorites, and they were told not to,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: but yet they did it. And so I wonder if
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: some of their stock and leaders did not become Amorite-looking
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: tribes I mean, if you intermarry with them, you're going
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: to change the makeup of your people. And so those
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: ten tribes never came back. So they just kind of
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: blended in with all those people in the steppes, and
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: they went east and west. And so you bring that up,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: there's a high chance that it traveled with that, with
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: those people, and made it all the way there.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, 100%.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: That was already there before the Westerners came to Japan.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: They were already, the priests in Japan were already having
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: those black box on their head and doing, I mean,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: the incense, things like that, that they were doing in Israel.
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: So I would say that's probably how that traveled. So
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: you had the Northern house of Israel that even, although
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: they were pagan, you had the ancient prophets still trying
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: to reach and bring them back towards God. But they
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: retained the knowledge of the 12 this. Because even if
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: you look at like Odin, like he originated, he was
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: like the starter of the Scandinavians. So he had 12 priests.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Like why did he pick 12? And he had these
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: priest king or priest guys that would make laws and stuff.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like wherever these people went, they took
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: those old ways with them. And which is fascinating because
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: it's a, I like to connect dots. So that is
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: definitely a dot connector. Along with the megalithic trail. Absolutely.
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: Because they were also told to erect megaliths and burial
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: mounds as they went. And that's what you see too.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: So you see it. It's like a breadcrumb trail, but
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: the breadcrumbs didn't ever go away. They were a little
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: more substantial than breadcrumbs. But that's a great point that
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: you mentioned. about the Japanese, the early Japanese people. And
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I do have an account here. I'll get to it.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: So in Japan, so you have, these weren't like massive giants,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: but since we're talking about Japan, there's a report from
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the Crossville Chronicle in 1918 about 15 ancient skeletons discovered
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: near Osaka, Stone Age is calling them, massive bone structure,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: and averaging seven feet in height, buried with their knees
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: drawn up. And you have the megalithic walls and mounds
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: in Japan. And what I could tell is the culture
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: kind of fell down into Japan from the megalithic culture
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: or connected to the Korean peninsula. Which, you know, touches
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: edges of Mongolia. So. Yeah.
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: So there you have a report of giants there.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: How many, how many were there?
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, there was 15.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: 15.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: In one area, all with massive bone structure. So you're
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: saying like, like you said before, like, you know, stout. Yes.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Stout people.
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, because Japanese people, at least back then, they were
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: very tiny people. Like, you see the stories of samurai
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: warriors and stuff, but they were... When we went to Japan,
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: we went to Osaka, was one part of the places
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: we did visit. The castle of all places is on
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: a megalithic... the stones that were megalithic that was all
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: part of that which is really weird to find those
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: bones that were there because that's part where the megalithic
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: stones were maybe they built the castle right there you
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: know how they people used part of other cultures maybe
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: that's what they did because the Japanese are very tiny
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: they were smaller than me I'm 5 feet 3 and
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: I'm half Japanese so That part of the Japanese side
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: is so... They're small, like five feet. And then these
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: were the warriors were five feet. I saw their armors.
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: They were so tiny. They look like children. It's incredible
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: how tiny they were back then. So, of course, if
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: they had these seven feet, that is not.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I would say they were probably... I would
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: say that they were probably taller, you know, before. So, like,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: probably the seven-footers are either young ones or they're just
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: a branch of smaller giants. Because typically, you know, seven feet,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: I will get, you know, when I talk about that,
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: they'll say, oh, that's just an NBA player. It's like, well... Yeah,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: but look at the bone density and look at how
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: many there were. So NBA players, you're shipping them from
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: all over the world to make one team. This is
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: one team of a race of people that were buried
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: in one spot. It's not the same thing.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: No.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: And sorry, but NBA players are not stout. They're usually
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: lanky and tall.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: Very rare. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. You can't change your bone.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: You can go pump iron and make yourself look a
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: little different, but we're talking bones and you can't change that.
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: Yes. Yeah.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's fascinating. And I think you're on to something
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: there that they probably saw how they knew is an
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: important spot with the megalithic walls. And let's build right
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: here because this is older. This is our island and
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: this is very old. Let's build right here. And why
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: wouldn't you? That's what I would do.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: It's already up. Yeah.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: And it's very, it's fascinating. It's probably mind boggling to them. Exactly.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: Because there's no way. that these Japanese people could have
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: moved these rocks. There's absolutely no way, no way. They
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: were very tiny people, very, very tiny. Now, have you noticed, well,
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: kind of what you were just saying, I was going
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: to say, did you notice some of these giants that
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: were found in America that were similarly described in China, Japan, Korea,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: or India? But as with that burial, yeah, that's very similar.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very similar.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Very similar.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: It's almost the same tradition, especially with the mounds. Now,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: you had like in Mongolia, there were like stone slab grave,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: a slab or slab grave culture. And so what you
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: get with a lot of these peoples are they all
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: did megalithic type burials, but sometimes they're different from each culture.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Like they would. as they add mix together, they would
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: be doing different things. Like they would have, you know
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Like they share customs and stuff. But yeah, no,
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: it's like, I even study in Tennessee Valley, the Tennessee Valley,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: River Valley in the U.S. Just recently, I came across
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: just doing a deep dive. I'm like, wait, there's mound builders,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: but there's stone grave people. So they call the stone,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: stone grave people where they just like a megalithic stone caps.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: And like, maybe you couldn't really see them. You'd, And
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? There's no like earth over it,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: like a mound. But they would dig them up. And
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: so it seemed like the people there even had like
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: a reddish hair, a blondish reddish hair in Tennessee Valley.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Like some of them, they'd be buried in caves and
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: their hair would be preserved. So it's very strange that
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: you have this somewhat similar group of people moving east
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: and west and with a for lack of a better word,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: a giant leadership among them.
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: You know, being the lords, their overlords.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: And.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Obviously, which is kind of weird to think, like, the
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: kings would have to be the ones erecting the megaliths,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: you know, because they're the only ones who could... You know,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: they might have had the other people among them doing things, but, like... Yeah.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: They couldn't do some of the stuff. Like, these... These
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: mounds and these huge earthen mounds and megalithic walls that
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: they erected are, to me, it just, it kind of
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: is obvious that these giants are the ones who were,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: you know, doing it.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Involved in the construction.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they also, they must have had
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: some kind of technology that they knew that, maybe we
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: don't know whether it's sound or magnetics or something to
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: maybe make it a little easier to move or something
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: because they had that knowledge maybe from the fallen angels
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: because that was part of their forefathers themselves that taught
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: them these technologies that we don't know today. Maybe we're
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: just understanding a little today, but we don't have that technology.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: Have you found... Have you found any reports of giant weapons, armors,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: or tools in Asia that would have been maybe impossible
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: for the ordinary person to use?
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: No, I haven't, but I did find one in, I forget,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: somewhere in America, but it was an Assyrian-style helmet. So
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: it's kind of right there close to Asia. That is Asia.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: And he had like a very long weapon, like a sword.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like it was seven feet long because the
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: guy was like 18 feet tall. So, but in Asia itself, I,
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: you know, just, I'm not saying it's not there. I
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: know that they're there, like in these mounds. It's just not,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: they weren't widely recorded in newspapers. And who knows? It
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: just depends on, really, it depends on when the books
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: if there are books when they were written um but
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: that's not to say that they aren't there i believe
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: they would be there yeah i.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Should before while i can i should ask her about
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: some of the stories that she's heard from japan as
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: well she she's um she's japanese from japan so she
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: can read and write uh japanese so I should ask her.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: I didn't think about that coming on here. I should
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: have asked her about it, but I didn't even think
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: about it. Because she likes all this kind of talk
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: that we're having. She likes that. So she probably heard stories.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: If not, she could probably find it and read it.
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: Because obviously I can't read the kanji, the Chinese characters.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: I can't read that, but I can read. There's three
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: languages or not language, three languages. Alphabets, I guess you
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: could say in Japan and I can't read the heart. Yeah,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: I can't the hardest one, of course But it's in
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: and of course the kanji which is the Chinese characters
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: is in everything. So yeah, I can't read that I
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: can only read the hiragana katakana so that I can't
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: really look You know.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: You should ask her for sure. I am there's another
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: So there's another report that I came across and I
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: think the report was confused and It was like, they
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: didn't know how to report it because I looked into it.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: It's a Japanese mummy, giant mummy, but it wasn't. A
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: Japanese traveler went to China and he obtained an eight foot,
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: nearly eight foot mummy from a Buddhist temple. And who
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: knows how old that was? It might've been something that
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: they had that maybe was buried there or, so I'll just,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: I'll kind of go over that. It's from the Kianxi
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: province in China. This is from the Chickasha Daily Express, 1914,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: December the 9th. Japanese explorer to China obtained a giant
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: mummy from a Buddhist temple, and he was buried in
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: like a stone box. The mummy measured about eight feet tall,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: and it is thought to have lived around the time
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: of the Christian era. So I don't know if that's
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: like AD 40 or something like that. That's kind of
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: what I would think. That's what the report said. So
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: the reporters thought this mummy was from Japan, but it
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: was from China, and they brought it and put it
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: on an exhibition and showed it around in Japan, which
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: I was wondering, like, okay, so this guy is eight
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: feet tall. He might have been descended from some of
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: those peoples that were coming through, for sure, you would think.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: So I thought that was a fascinating one that I
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: came across that I thought would be fun to share.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is so good. Any photos that anyone ever
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: took or drew from Asia at all that you've come across?
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: Just that one that they sent me, and then the
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: photo of the... So you have these giants with the horns,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: and then that other one that didn't have horns. He
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: was huge. I did come across an article years ago,
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: and that was one thing I was going to try
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: to find. I think I might have reported on it
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: years ago, but it was like a... Something like around
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: 30 feet tall, found in India, like a giant. Now,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: if you look online, it'll say, well, that's just a...
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: That was some sort of animal, like you were saying.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: But the more reports say it was more humanoid. So
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: that was a really big one.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Oh, you got cut off right there. So after animal,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: what did you say?
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so... A lot of people say it's like an animal,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: like you were saying, but more reports of the same report,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: like multiple newspapers would report on it. And they were
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: all leaning more towards like, some of them would say
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: like a big ape. Well, it's just like a humanoid
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: is what it was. But that was around 30 feet tall.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: So it's tough to find stuff in Asia, but I
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: think I was able to connect enough dots of this
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: group of people that had giants among them. You know,
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: giants among this group of people that went up above
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: the Caucasus and spread into Asia. And we can see
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: that there was a leadership among them that, let's just
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Let's be, you know, let's just say around 10 feet
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: tall or 12 feet tall or something like that. Obviously,
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: sometimes you have these ones that are 30, and I
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: don't know how old those are. I don't disbelieve them
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: at all, though. We could be looking at an older giant,
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: you know, from a different tribe of giants. Because you
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: still have the ones that are in Afghanistan today, you know.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: If we go with the report of the Kandahar giant
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: in Afghanistan. The great burial mounds are there. Right. I
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: can go over some of these. Let's just go over
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: some of these stories of giants from different cultures.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, please.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: And I just.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Please.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: You know, I just have little descriptions of them. I
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: didn't do a deep dive into each one, but I
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: think it's fascinating. So in India, you have the Danavas giant.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: Or they call it the Ramayana. It's some link to
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: the giant warriors or giant races or hybrid beings of
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: great power.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: The blue. Are they the blue guys?
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: They may be.
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: So this is powerful superhuman beings. There are many are
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: depicted as an enormous size and strength. So I'm kind
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: of thinking if these things are still around. They must
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: be under some sort of judgment, and they must be
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: banned and banished to, like, mountainous regions. It's like the
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: ones in Japan. Like, think about it. Like, they're not
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: erecting these big megalithic walls. They're more like terrors or, like,
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: obnoxious or what are they doing now? But it's almost
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: like there's still traces of them around, possibly. Tibet, you
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: have the Yeti and, you know, the giant hairy humanoids.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: And a fun fact, though, about that, if you... This is...
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Not really off topic, but it's a movie. And I
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: don't know if you or any of your listeners have
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: seen it. It's called Smallfoot. And it's based on the Yeti.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: It's a kid movie. But it gives you a lot
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: of history about what they could be. But it depicts
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: them as having horns, which is something I'd never seen before.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: But as we're talking about horn giants... Why did they
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: depict them as having horns? And you have these horn
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: giants in Japan, in Afghanistan. I'm not saying that the
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: one that they shot, the military shot, didn't have horns.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: And then you have the Yeti. And a lot of
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: times when you have movies coming out, they're telling you
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: some truths. And it's almost like they're just telling you
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: without telling you. You have to pay attention to fairy
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: tale movies.
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: So in Afghanistan, you have the devs, or the divs,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: and that's that picture that I showed you of the
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: horned giant. Powerful giant or org-like beings living in remote
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: valleys and caves. Some local traditions describe enormous wild men
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: living in the high mountains. So that's why I'm wondering, like,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: some of these wild men reports today, are they not
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: remnants of some of these original leaders among this these
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: groups of peoples. Um, yeah, that's just a thought I
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: have as I study all this stuff. Um, Kazakhstan, epic
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: heroes described as, uh, extraordinary size. And, you know, their,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: their burial mounds are reported to hold giants, um, according
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: to their legends. And I, I tend to lean towards
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: what they believe about their own people, right? Like, no, we,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: we know better than you, you know, or Google knows
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: better or does it? I don't think so. I don't
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: think so. Let's go with what the locals say. That's
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: where I lean. Kurchikistan. The Epic of Manus talks of
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: warriors of immense stature and strength. Yeah, let's see. Tajikistan.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: All the stands over there, they've got a lot of
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: cool history. The Pamir Mountains stories of giant shepherds and
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: powerful ancient inhabitants. Mountains again, too. Well, yeah, the mountains. Yeah,
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: that's a big deal right there. Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan, tales
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: of giant heroes, monstrous beings tied to deserts and mountains.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: And we talked about China, the Fengfeng giant.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: Fengfeng, I think it's pronounced.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Fengfeng. Fengfeng. Yeah. And there was another one that they
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: mentioned that is called the Qi Yu. That was another
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: giant giant. And then they said there were some unusually
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: tall skeletons found in China, but it said they weren't
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: like six foot two. Maybe descendants. I mean, I'm six two.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: I'm not calling myself a giant, but, you know.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: There is a lot of tall Chinese people up north
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: China for some reason, which is really strange.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: That is strange.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not typical Chinese. what you think Asian, because
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: Asians are typically small, but these Chinese are huge for Chinese.
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: It's like a group of them in northern part of China.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: I would venture to say they're descendants of these people.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: That's what I would think. If they're that big on average,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: that tells you there was something there years ago that
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: they were all living together and You know, had families.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: So that's, yeah, those are some of the lore, we
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: call it, or, you know, folklore traditions of giants right
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: there in Asia. Right there in the Asian, overall Asia area,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: which is a massive area. It is. I would love
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: to put boots on the ground. I don't know how
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: that works. But, like, at least to go see some
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: of these mountains. And, you know, I would love to
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: go to Japan and see what you've seen.
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: I've seen the only pictures. It probably is.
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: Probably the safest place to go.
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: Exactly.
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's very safe to go there.
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: Exactly.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Well, you know, even if we get into China, China
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: was kind of hard to, you could almost do a
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: deep dive in China itself. I know. So you have
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: all these big pyramids there. I know.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: And they don't want to talk about it for some reason.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: They don't want to talk about it.
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: So it's hard to find the truth on it. But they,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: you know, supposedly they plant trees on them. You know,
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: people will say, well, that's to hide them. Is it
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: or is it just to preserve them, like to keep
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: the erosion? I don't know. Maybe it's to hide them
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: or not let people notice them so much. But yeah,
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: there are some massive pyramids there. And I want to know.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Who was involved with that to build those, which pyramids
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: are all over the place, you know, and there's even
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: tales that there might be some in the U.S., but
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: like obviously even U.S. is going to hide that. They're
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: not going to talk about that. We can only talk
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: about Egypt. Right. Or the Yucatan. Or certain other ones,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: but you can't touch certain spots for some reason.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: I've been to Egypt since, I think since we've talked,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: I've been to Egypt and it's amazing. And it is huge.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: The pillars there, the, everything is huge. And it's like,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: there's no way that these were made for regular people
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: like us, because there's, how could they build it? They're
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: just one, like one piece of granite that is huge.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: There's no way that they could do this.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: It's incredible. And I think you talked about finding giant
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: skeletons in Egypt and their skulls were like one inch
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: thick or something like that.
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and they were up to 11 feet tall.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: I feel like there was like 60 of them. And
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: they ranged from 7 foot 1, no, 7 foot 6
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: or something, all the way to 11 foot 1. And
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: they were.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: They were right there in Egypt. But the report said
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: that they were not in some sort of elaborate burial spot.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: They weren't even marked, almost just like they were commoners.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: And so that tells you that maybe there were some
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: even bigger ones that were like the kings.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: And it makes me wonder if they were post-flood giants.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: And I don't know where you stand on it, but
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: I don't really know. But the pyramids themselves... It makes
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: me wonder if some of those might be pre-flood because
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: they're so ancient. Absolutely.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: I believe that.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I think.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Especially going there and seeing that in person, seeing the
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: sphinx in person.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: That sphinx head does not belong to that body. It's
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: so tiny, the head, compared to the body that's so huge.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: And you can see the watermarks. You can see all
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: the watermarks. So that was before the flood. Absolutely.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But then some of these pillars that you're talking
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: about might be post-flood, but still, they're for people greater
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: in size. I think these ones that I found, or
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: I didn't find, the report that I uncovered of all
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: these giants that were up to 11 feet tall, I
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: think those were post-flood giants that were just buried there.
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: Those were maybe the builders of those pillars and stuff
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: like that. I think it was just common knowledge to
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: you know, three, 400, 500 years ago, that giants were
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: just a thing. Like you had Josephus write about them
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: and say that they're horrible to sound, their sound is
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: horrible to hear because they're so big. Like, so there
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: must've been some, like it was either a memory or
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: something in his time. And so I think just people
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: knew it. And so even the Bible says, It talks
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: about these Amorites. It doesn't really give you a lot
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: of detail about them until you start digging. And you're like, oh,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: wait a second. It says they're as tall as the
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: cedar trees, as strong as oaks. Okay. That's what we're
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  Speaker 1: dealing with. It doesn't tell you every time it mentions
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  Speaker 1: the name Amorite.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't. You just have to do your research and
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  Speaker 1: see it.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think this is great looking into all this
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  Speaker 1: Asia stuff, though. I know.
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  Speaker 2: That was incredible. Have you ever looked into Sardinia? I
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  Speaker 2: know we're talking about Asia, but Sardinia. And they had
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  Speaker 2: the Cyclops, the giants of the tombs and the giant traditions.
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  Speaker 2: Have you come across that or heard about that?
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  Speaker 1: I've seen the... Yeah, I have a little bit. I
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  Speaker 1: did a post not too long ago. It was... Sardinia,
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  Speaker 1: but there's another one. Sicily is right next to it. Malta? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all that area there. Let me see what I have
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  Speaker 1: here on that. Okay, so I have prehistoric giant skeletons
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  Speaker 1: ranging from 30 feet to 44 feet in height discovered
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  Speaker 1: between 1516 and 1816. And this is Sicily. So it's
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  Speaker 1: real close to You have some megalithic structures there, but
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  Speaker 1: you have even more on Sardinia, which is really close
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  Speaker 1: right there in the Mediterranean. So this report from 1905
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  Speaker 1: from the Holt County Sentinel says, but France is not
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  Speaker 1: the only country where giant skeletons have been unearthed. Near Palmaro,
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  Speaker 1: Sicily in 1516 was found the skeleton of a giant
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  Speaker 1: 30 feet high. And in 1559, another 44 feet in height. So,
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  Speaker 1: and then there's another spot on the same island in
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  Speaker 1: 1816 was found the skeleton of a giant 30 feet
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  Speaker 1: whose head was the size of a hog's head and
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  Speaker 1: each tooth weighing five ounces. So a hog's head, here,
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  Speaker 1: hold on, I'll show you what a hog's head is.
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  Speaker 1: So a hog's head is like I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: you can see this. I don't know if you can
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  Speaker 1: see what that mule is carrying a hog's head. Oh.
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  Speaker 1: It's something they would roll. They would fill it with
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  Speaker 1: tobacco and they would roll it. Not a hog's head,
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  Speaker 1: but like a hog tank.
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  Speaker 2: I thought you were talking about a hog's head.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that puts some, like, how big is that?
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  Speaker 1: That's bigger than a mule or a horse. So if
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  Speaker 1: you're 30 feet tall, that actually makes sense. So where
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  Speaker 1: did that skeleton go? But it was right there next
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  Speaker 1: to Sardinia. That's why I bring it up is, you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's legends and stuff. The people of Sardinia say, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they were here. And here's the giant's tomb. And they
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  Speaker 1: even call the tomb of the gigantes or gigante. But
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  Speaker 1: if you can find reports of a giant right next door,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to be related to the area, that little
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  Speaker 1: area right there.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: And they're known to be the Cyclops, so the one-eye giants.
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  Speaker 2: My stepfather, he's passed now, but he said that he
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  Speaker 2: knew about these stories. He's from Italy. And he knew
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  Speaker 2: about these stories growing up about the Cyclops and giants
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  Speaker 2: in Sardinia. And when me and my mom was talking,
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  Speaker 2: she had asked him about it. And he's like, of
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  Speaker 2: course I heard about it. Yeah. It's like, yeah, no
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  Speaker 2: big deal. They knew about it. It was stories. Folklorists
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  Speaker 2: that he grew up with.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't strange to him. No. It was just common knowledge.
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  Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. And that's what they call it, cyclopean walls. They
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  Speaker 1: call them that. That interlocking type. They call them cyclopean. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like we have to go through a
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  Speaker 2: deep dive with Europe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Europe has a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Because that's another rabbit hole in itself. I recently interviewed
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  Speaker 2: this lady. Her name is Heather Arnold. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: if you know her or heard of her. She talks
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: about the giants in the Caribbean. And it's funny that
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  Speaker 2: you what she had found there was almost what what
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  Speaker 2: you had mentioned that they found in Japan with the
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  Speaker 2: 15 giants kind of in that ball kind of meet up.
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  Speaker 2: She had said that, too, that they found that in
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  Speaker 2: the Caribbean. Really? Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Which is really strange. I find that a lot with
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: the giants. Yeah. I mean, like in Mexico, northern Mexico,
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  Speaker 1: they had giants from 10 to 12 feet tall and
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  Speaker 1: they were buried like that in a cave.
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  Speaker 2: In a fetal position.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. With their knees up raised like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly like that.
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  Speaker 2: That is crazy.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I know of Heather. Yeah, she focuses on
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  Speaker 1: that area right there, which is fascinating. Because she kind
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: of gets into the lore and then what's actually there
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  Speaker 1: and the lore of what still lives there and all that,
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  Speaker 1: like the tales of what the people say. Yep, yep.
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  Speaker 2: And Aruba, yeah, she lives in Aruba. She's been there,
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  Speaker 2: I think, 20 years or so.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to say. I was like, as
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  Speaker 1: soon as I say Aruba, it's going to be the
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  Speaker 1: wrong things. I just didn't say it. I wasn't going
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  Speaker 1: to say it. I'm going to Place her in the
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: wrong spot on the map. I didn't want to do that.
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  Speaker 2: Now, one thing I still remember from our last conversation
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  Speaker 2: was that enormous stone hatchet head that you showed me.
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  Speaker 2: Do you still have that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I've got one. I don't know if it's
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  Speaker 1: the same one, but I've got one.
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  Speaker 2: Let me see.
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  Speaker 1: This is a 30-pound. Oh, my gosh.
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  Speaker 2: That is incredible.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's 30 pounds. And I find quite a few of
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  Speaker 1: these in the area. So the area I find these
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  Speaker 1: are where the giant mantrax are. So they're in the same,
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  Speaker 1: they're all in that same area. So, and there's even
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  Speaker 1: like some mount, what looks to be mounds in that
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  Speaker 1: same area. So I'm trying to look into that. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: you can't dig into them, but I know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just document them and, I'm always looking around, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I love finding these big ax heads that are near
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  Speaker 1: where the giant man tracks are. And I have another
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  Speaker 1: picture here, um, like a, a trap way of giant
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  Speaker 1: man tracks that I found. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 1: can really see that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like consecutive footprints until it disappears into the water. Um,
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  Speaker 1: So this man would have stood around 9 to 10
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  Speaker 1: feet tall because his stride was 50, 52 inches from
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: left heel to right heel.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So I can't even stretch that far hardly. And you're 6'2. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And so this guy was on a mission and he's
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: just walking right down the river. It's the actual riverbed
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: that kind of dried up. And I found this last October.
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  Speaker 1: So that was pretty cool to find. I mean, you
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  Speaker 1: find footprints, but to find that many in a row,
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  Speaker 1: and they're around 17 inches long.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: And that's my foot right next to them. My foot
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  Speaker 1: is about 12 inches.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little smaller. But, yeah, so that's where I
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: find some of these axe heads are right in that area.
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  Speaker 2: Awesome.
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  Speaker 1: And I found about three. Around three or four different
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  Speaker 1: styles and different sizes. So, and they're all, so you
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: can't say that these are just natural stones because they're,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: you can't have that happen. That are just, you can
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  Speaker 1: see the tool marks on them, a lot of them.
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  Speaker 1: So it's primitive, what we would call primitive. The Northern
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  Speaker 1: part of America has like different types with like a groove,
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  Speaker 1: but those would not be around anymore anymore. because that's very,
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  Speaker 1: very obvious, but these are more primitive looking and you
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  Speaker 1: can see where they notched and notched, but it's more like,
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  Speaker 1: and people aren't looking for giant ones, right? They're looking
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  Speaker 1: for little stuff. So my eye is like, my eye
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  Speaker 1: is like up a few notches to see what, what
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  Speaker 1: giant people would do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's, that's fun.
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  Speaker 2: That is fun. Well, I want to thank you again
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  Speaker 2: for taking the time to come back on this show.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: I always enjoy our conversations, and I really appreciate the
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  Speaker 2: time and effort you put into researching this fascinating topic.
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  Speaker 2: And I know this isn't something that you can do overnight.
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  Speaker 2: So the amount of historical research you've compiled is truly impressive.
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  Speaker 2: But before we wrap up, where can anyone find you,
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: follow your work and learn more about your research?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, go to Instagram and look up Giants.
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  Speaker 1: So it's Giants of Ancient America. But to find me there,
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: you go Giants underscore of underscore Ancient America is all
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: one big word. And that's where you can find me.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's other links on that. You can look
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: it up on Facebook. When I do a post, I
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: try to go to all the other three and throw
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: a post out there because I don't know who's looking
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: on TikTok. And YouTube and Facebook. But yeah, find me
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  Speaker 1: on Instagram, Giants of Ancient America.
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  Speaker 2: Well, thank you again for joining me. It's always a
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: pleasure to have you on the show. And I look
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: forward to talking to you again about Europe. Hopefully we can.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: Do that one. That'd be great. Yeah, I enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 1: Totally enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 4: Awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks, guys, for listening. And I'll see you on the
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  Speaker 2: next one. A hui hou kakou. Bye.
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  Speaker 4: Losing my cool, breaking my rules, I don't usually get
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: so Out of my head, walking the edge, what am
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: I falling into? I'm here again, where do we land,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: tell me is it too soon? Losing my cool, breaking
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: my rules, I'm going crazy over you I.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: Know what you say You're not afraid to dive into something.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: You got nothing to lose. But I'm not that way.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: Taking my sweet time. Don't want to be the one
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: to cry.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: But I'm losing my cool. Breaking my rules. I don't
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: usually get told. my hands they shake when you walk
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: into the room.
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  Speaker 3: And I can't think straight There's no one like you But.
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  Speaker 5: I wanna chase This feeling with you Don't walk away
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: from this tonight I'm going with you.
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  Speaker 4: Losing my cool, breaking my rules I don't usually get
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: so Out of my head, walking the edge What am
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 4: I falling into? Losing my cool, breaking my rules I
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 4: don't need you sleeping so I don't know how crazy
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: crazy crazy crazy crazy Breaking the rules, I don't need
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: you to take it slow. I'm a rat, walking the ice,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 4: I'm going crazy over you.