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255: Sister Wives Recap - One on One Part Three (S19 E28) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Reality TV Cringe. I am one
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  Speaker 1: We are here to talk sister Wivesney the Never Ending
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  Speaker 1: Season nineteen. Yeah, and I can't believe we're here again.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like we've been here for lo these many years.
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  Speaker 1: I think we have languishing in the same season. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's crazy. Now, before we get into our recap, we
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  Speaker 1: appreciate it. Now, before we get into this recap, I
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  Speaker 1: have to ask you, Patress, what was your takeaway after
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  Speaker 1: watching the third installment of the one on ones.
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  Speaker 3: I just can't believe we're talking about the luggage wreck again.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how many times do we have to like,
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  Speaker 3: go over it? We get it.
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  Speaker 1: It's a symbol of the marriages.
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  Speaker 3: We understand. Yes, And my other takeaway is that I'm guy,
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  Speaker 3: we're finally talking about finances and like intimacy a little
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  Speaker 3: bit sort of. I mean, yeah, but like we're getting
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  Speaker 3: some like little tidbits here and there, like Mary with
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  Speaker 3: her accountant and stuff like that. I think that's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but it's so surface level so as
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  Speaker 1: to simply piss me off because it's not substantive enough.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to know more and they know that
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  Speaker 1: I want to know more and they're not giving me more.
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  Speaker 1: But it is the Brown so yeah, and it's TLC
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  Speaker 1: and it's Puddle Monkey the production House. Yeah. Now, my
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  Speaker 1: main takeaway was that, like I feel as if I'm
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  Speaker 1: on a roller coaster with Mary Brown. Like sometimes I'm like, yes, Mary, yes, queen,
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  Speaker 1: you're almost there, You're worthy of Yeah, And then the
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  Speaker 1: very next week she's throwing the women under the bus again,
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  Speaker 1: or she's bitter, or she's being a little judgy or petty.
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  Speaker 1: And in this episode, in this time Nothing, I thought
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  Speaker 1: she was doing a lot of that, oh for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And she was talking about Christine, talking about Cody or
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  Speaker 1: the luggage rack. She seemed to think that that was
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  Speaker 1: super petty and people shouldn't be comparing and she was
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  Speaker 1: very judging, and I'm like, but Mary, this is a
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  Speaker 1: show right about y'all, right, and you're gonna be asking
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  Speaker 1: or getting fielding questions about y'all. I agree, Cody's the patriarch,
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  Speaker 1: and Cody's the problem is the malignancy, and so of
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  Speaker 1: course Christine is going to speak on it. So it
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  Speaker 1: just felt like she's not a girl's girl. She's still
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  Speaker 1: trying to defend Cody for some reason. She looks stupid.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed a little bit, Like you called her pathetic
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  Speaker 1: a few weeks ago, and like she really does sometimes
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  Speaker 1: come off as pathetic, Like why are you still being
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  Speaker 1: so diplomatic with these a holes? I don't deserve it.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't get it, Like you can not like Christine,
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  Speaker 3: or you cannot like have a relationship with Christina or
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  Speaker 3: Janelle but still understand like their perspectives about something like
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  Speaker 3: the luggage rack or whatever. Like I just didn't understand
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  Speaker 3: why she's like quick complaining, stop complaining. I'm like, you're rude, dude.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And at least they're doing it with their own mouths,
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  Speaker 1: whereas you need your rando friends to get in front
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  Speaker 1: of cameras to do to the complaining that you actually
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  Speaker 1: want to do, but don't have the guts to do,
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  Speaker 1: And it really pissed me off when at the top
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  Speaker 1: of this episode, she's like, well, I don't know who
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  Speaker 1: to trust, Like should I trust Cody and Robin? They're
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  Speaker 1: telling me that Janelle is the one who does the money,
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  Speaker 1: or should I trust Janelle? Because she's saying that it's
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  Speaker 1: Cody and Robin. I'm like, Mary Brown, do you have
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  Speaker 1: eyeballs either head or what? Have you gone over to
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  Speaker 1: their house and seeing the phoenix rising from the ashes?
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  Speaker 1: Have you seen all the artwork? Did you see the
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  Speaker 1: American girl dolls? Did you see the amethyst crystal wing? Like,
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  Speaker 1: come on, Mary.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, how many examples do you need to finally
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  Speaker 3: get that Cody and Robin are terrible people, Like she
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  Speaker 3: just still thinks that they like have good intentions sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: I know, and I don't understand it. And I was
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  Speaker 1: thinking that maybe it was because at the time that
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  Speaker 1: this was being filmed, Coyote Pass was still unresolved, So
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  Speaker 1: maybe she's thinking, oh, I should err on the side
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  Speaker 1: of just not dragging them to filth me because maybe
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  Speaker 1: he'll make it hard for me to get my money.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, I'm like, what are you
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  Speaker 1: even talking about? You knew that Jane was in an RV, right,
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  Speaker 1: you knew that Janelle didn't have a place, right, Like
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  Speaker 1: you could see the disparity between the two folks, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like, I don't understand you, and I didn't
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  Speaker 1: like it. I agree, And so that was my takeaway.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So why don't we get into the recap again.
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  Speaker 1: We are in season nineteen. This was episode twenty eight
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  Speaker 1: eight twenty eight, twenty eight of the One on one Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Part three, Yes, So take it away, Beatrice.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we start off the conversation talking about some juicy stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I think about Coyote Pass, and this leads into like
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  Speaker 3: a bigger conversation about how nobody trusts each other, how
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  Speaker 3: finances were managed and mismanaged throughout the years, and Cody
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  Speaker 3: says some bullshit, Christine says some bullshit. It's actually pretty good.
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  Speaker 3: But we start off with Coyote Pass. Suki asks Mary,
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  Speaker 3: you know what the heck is going on with this
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  Speaker 3: Land's like, well, it's been paid off, but we're still
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  Speaker 3: trying to figure out how to legally divide everything so
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  Speaker 3: everybody gets their fair share. And then we watch a
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  Speaker 3: clip where we have Cody, I think, talking to that
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  Speaker 3: weird Rando realtor on Coyote Pass and talking about how,
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  Speaker 3: you know, legally he doesn't need anybody else's permission to
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  Speaker 3: figure out how to divide everything, but he's trying to
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  Speaker 3: figure it out to be fair because he's such a
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  Speaker 3: nice guy. Yeah, And this kind of pisses off Mary
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  Speaker 3: a little bit, right, but she kind of agrees with
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  Speaker 3: it at the same time because it's Mary, Well.
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  Speaker 1: She has to admit that she was stupid. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: irrespective of the fact that she I assume contributed equally
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  Speaker 1: to Coyote Pass, she allowed for her name to be
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  Speaker 1: listed on only one plot along with two other people.
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  Speaker 1: So she ends up only owning thirty three percent of
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  Speaker 1: one plot out of four. So that was stupid yeap
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  Speaker 1: for a grown asque woman. That was stupid for a
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  Speaker 1: business woman who's in the process of worthying up yeap.
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  Speaker 1: And so while she's upset that he says that he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't need permission, she has to admit that he's right
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  Speaker 1: because she allowed it to happen.
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  Speaker 3: Yep. And this gets into the conversation about how they
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  Speaker 3: just don't trust each other because Cody says that the
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  Speaker 3: other wives don't trust him because they want to get
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  Speaker 3: alimony and they're pissed off that they can't get alimony. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and that's his justification for why Janelle and Mary feel
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  Speaker 3: the way that they do. Well, they just can't get
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  Speaker 3: alimony out of me, that's why they don't trust me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they're trying to get something. And I just
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  Speaker 1: thought to myself, what would have happened after he went
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  Speaker 1: and protested for rights for polygamist families, Like if he
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  Speaker 1: were able to actually marry Janelle, Christine and Mary, they
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  Speaker 1: would have been entitled to some alimony and even child support,
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  Speaker 1: and he would have been made to pay under the
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  Speaker 1: laws that he would have wanted to create. But now
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  Speaker 1: that they're gone and he's got his McMansion and now
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  Speaker 1: he's got his McMansion number two, he's like, yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: they're just trying to get something out of me. Well,
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  Speaker 1: of course they are. Of course, she was married to
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  Speaker 1: you for thirty three years. She's entitled to something. This
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  Speaker 1: is the very least of what she is entitled to.
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  Speaker 1: And Mary goes on to say, well, I contributed just
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  Speaker 1: as much, and I wonder if she contributed even more
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  Speaker 1: to this family has anybody else? And she didn't come
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  Speaker 1: right out and say but I didn't receive an equal measure,
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  Speaker 1: but that was kind of the subtext. Oh definitely, And
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  Speaker 1: this is where we get into you know, I even
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  Speaker 1: had to get my accountant and my books and sit
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  Speaker 1: down with Cody and Robin. Yeah, so not just Cody
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  Speaker 1: and show them, Look, this is how much money I've
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  Speaker 1: paid into the family. And they were surprised, and I
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  Speaker 1: guess after that they stopped complaining about it. I really
• 9:45
  Speaker 1: wish Sukie would have said, well what led to that, though, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like what led you to have to sit down and
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  Speaker 1: show your books? Were they accusing you of something? And
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  Speaker 1: if so, what were they accusing you of? But we
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  Speaker 1: never get into any of that information unfortunately.
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  Speaker 3: I mean Mary kind of alludes to it where she's like,
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  Speaker 3: I think maybe Cody and Robin thought I wasn't contributing
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  Speaker 3: equally and then they were surprised, like she actually says,
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  Speaker 3: they were surprised that she was contributing way more than
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  Speaker 3: they thought to the family plot, which is just interesting
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  Speaker 3: to me because then we get into not just.
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  Speaker 1: The family plot, but like to the family because she
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: was helping to pay for all of those kids to
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: go to school. Yeah, I mean the ones that did.
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: A lot of kids went into the military. But like,
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  Speaker 1: she was contributing to Janelle's kids and Christine's kids, and
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  Speaker 1: I assume Robin's kids. But then she lets us know
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  Speaker 1: once again.
• 10:35
  Speaker 3: That she had to pay for Leon's college and Leon's
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: car and everything. But then we have Cody saying that
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  Speaker 3: once the older kids all went off to college and everything,
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: nobody contributed to the younger kids, which means Robin's kids.
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  Speaker 3: So therefore the whole family has to still pay for
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  Speaker 3: Robin and her children.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: So is that why he's stealing all this money so
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: that he can make them pay for his kids.
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  Speaker 3: I think he's trying to justify it, like because on
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: its face, objectively, we all know that Cody and Robin
• 11:05
  Speaker 3: have been stealing money from the family plot allegedly in
• 11:09
  Speaker 3: our opinion. In our opinion, they have been stealing from
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  Speaker 3: all of these women and stealing from all these other kids.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look at their mansion allegedly. I mean, yeah,
• 11:18
  Speaker 3: like their bankroppers allegedly. But you know, Cody, I think,
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  Speaker 3: is trying to spin it like, oh, the other wives
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  Speaker 3: were actually the selfish ones, they only cared about themselves.
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: They didn't contribute to Robin's house. Like he says something
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: like the first corporate paycheck that hit their account, Robin
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  Speaker 3: didn't get any of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the family had to pay her debt. Though
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: the family had to pay for her townhouse. Hello, the
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: family was probably paying to relocate her though, and they
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: didn't really have the fluidity to do that. In season one,
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: Remember when they get to Vegas and they're trying to
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: get their first rentals in Vegas. It's Janelle, It's like,
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: I can barely feed my kids. Yep, So this TLC
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: money isn't that great and we still have to support
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: this vagabond Robin for real, And that's why you didn't
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: get the first corporate check. But like, how is that distributed?
• 12:07
  Speaker 1: Is that the first season's corporate check?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: Is it the first episodes corporate check?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Like did she then get episode two, three, four, five, six,
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  Speaker 1: and seven, and eight? Like, come on, Cody, I know
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: he's just trying to spin his obfuscating and he's not.
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  Speaker 3: Telling us the full truth because if the full truth
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  Speaker 3: came out, like it would prove that him and Robin
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  Speaker 3: were stealing everything allegedly, so it's just like so messed up.
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  Speaker 3: And this gets into a greater conversation about money and management,
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  Speaker 3: because again Cody is running with the narrative that it
• 12:37
  Speaker 3: was Janelle's fault, that Janelle was the one that was
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  Speaker 3: in control of all the mass it's so messed up,
• 12:43
  Speaker 3: like she was the one that mismanaged everything, and he
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: says something like, you know, I don't know where money
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: was going. Money was going to pay off certain things
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: when I thought it was going to pay off other things.
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  Speaker 3: And again he's just trying to undermine Janelle, which Janelle
• 12:58
  Speaker 3: talks about. She's like, this is Cody's m O, Like
• 13:01
  Speaker 3: he knows all of our weaknesses. He knows that for me,
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: financial security is a big thing. I mean, hello, Taurus,
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  Speaker 3: Like I want to be stable. I want to be
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  Speaker 3: stable my material wealth. And so he's hitting her where
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  Speaker 3: it hurts the most and insinuating that she's dumb and
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  Speaker 3: doesn't know how to manage finances well.
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  Speaker 1: But he's also trying to take the heat off of
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  Speaker 1: his Emily because they're also having conversations where they're saying
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  Speaker 1: that Cody had the discretion to move money around and
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: give it to a wife if she needed it at
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  Speaker 1: a certain time, and so like he could actually look
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  Speaker 1: at what was in I assume the family LLC and
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  Speaker 1: then allocate funds from there. And here's where, you know,
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  Speaker 1: even though I just ragged on Mary for not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: trusting Janelle over Cody and Robin, like, we do have
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  Speaker 1: to admit though, that at the very least, Janelle was
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  Speaker 1: the bookkeeper.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: She saw the taxes and the preparation for the taxes,
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: She saw the LLC funds. She knew what was coming in.
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  Speaker 1: We also know that she knew how it was being
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: moved around, because last season she was the one who said, like,
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  Speaker 1: I see the money, and I see what they're paying for,
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  Speaker 1: and there's no reason we can't be paying off Coyote
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  Speaker 1: Pass right now. So we know that Janelle knows these things,
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: and yet she never did send up the flare and
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: let Mary know, Hey, just FYI, this is how much
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: we get. But this is how much he's using to
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: pay for his Deckenzian village and for her American girl dolls,
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  Speaker 1: and this is how much is being allocated to the
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: different wives, and it is unfair. She never told Christine
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: because Christine tells us that Janelle was very tight lipped,
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: and so as much as we live Janelle, and I'm
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: sure it was a burden for her to do the books.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: At the same time, you should have been letting everybody
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: know that there was a problem in the Brown LLC
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: and that Cody was being unfair. But maybe, and I'm
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: just floating this to you, maybe Janelle was a benefactor
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  Speaker 1: of those funds, maybe because Cody had discretion to give
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  Speaker 1: a wife a little bit more. Maybe she got a
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: little bit more than Mary did, and she knew it,
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: and even more than Christine did, and she knew it,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: and so that's why she didn't say anything. What do
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: you think about that?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe, I mean, I could see that as a possibility.
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  Speaker 3: But like Mary talks about how she got in trouble
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  Speaker 3: for talking about like how things were being allocated, and
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: like got in trouble for talking about how Coyote Pass
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: was divided, and I think Janelle talks about it too,
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: Like she got in trouble for talking about like where
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: things were going, or commenting about how much money Cody
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: and Robin were spending. So maybe that's why she's so
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: tight lipped. Maybe that's why she didn't tell the og
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: wives because she was gonna get in trouble.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: But don't you think she had a duty to don't
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: you think as the record keeper and the bookkeeper and
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: Cody is implying she had more of a hand, and
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: they're like how they creatively handled money? Like yeah, but
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: I think, don't you think she had a duty to
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: tell the other wives? Maybe not Robin, but Mary and
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Christine I kind of do.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, like morally, I think you had a duty.
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  Speaker 3: I would have said that, Like if I was a
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: part of this family, I would have been like, Yo,
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  Speaker 3: this is what's happened.
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  Speaker 1: She told me, Yeah, like this day, were funneling all
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: this money out of the LLC.
• 16:08
  Speaker 3: That's what I would have done. I would have done
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  Speaker 3: that this second. I saw that stuff happening when Robin
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: came into the picture. But at the same time, like
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: I think in the earlier seasons, Janelle was like a
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: totally different person. She was so much more subdued and
• 16:20
  Speaker 3: like more in secure. I would argue about like maybe
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: her place in the family or like maybe her own
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  Speaker 3: finances and stuff, and she was just worried about like
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: I've got a work. I mean back in like season one,
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: season two, Sea said three, She's the only one with
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: like an external paycheck. Everybody else is dependent on TLC.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: Like Cody was in sales but then he quit it for.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Tal right, he was selling signs Honey and Cody wyoming,
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: and Robin was racking up all that Victoria's secret dead, right,
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  Speaker 1: So like nobody was doing anything.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't want to shit on like Christine
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: or Mary. I think Mary was like doing.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: Something hard time job.
• 16:56
  Speaker 3: She liked to work with kids, Yeah, but like why
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: didn't you have a full time sorry? Right, But Christine
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: was like mothering all of the children, so that full
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: time job in and of itself. So like Janelle was
• 17:07
  Speaker 3: the only one with all of that on her shoulders.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: So I want to give her that credit. But I
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: could see your theory.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Too well, And I'm just saying that maybe that's why
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Mary has a little bit of a problem, because historically
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: she knows that Janelle had the information. But then we
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: cut to Christine, yeah, to ask for her opinion on
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: what she thinks Cody's going to end up doing with
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: regard to Coyote Pass, and she's the one who says
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: what we all are thinking, which is, oh, he's going
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: to screw them. Oh like he's greedy when it comes
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: to money. He's never fair and he's not going to
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: give them their fair share, which made me wonder as
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I was watching, like, does Cody see this footage before
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: we do? Like, is he does he have like any
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: editorial power with production where he can see what these
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: other women are saying and maybe get some things to
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: be cut out. Or what if Cody saw them say
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: that and then said, Okay, well I better make sure
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: that I divvy this up fairly because they're calling me
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: out and Christine is saying I'm not going to because
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I'm greedy.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean that would imply that Cody
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: would have some semblance of self reflection or like a
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: little bit of a moral compass, because I feel like
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: he really is as selfish as Christine and Janelle are
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: saying he is. Because after Christine says that like Janelle
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: and Mary are gonna get screwed, Janelle says something like,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: you know, every time Cody is in a financial deal
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: or whatever, he always ends up on top. He always
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: ends up with more. He always is looking out for himself,
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: and now he's looking out for himself and Robin. So
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: that's all he cares about, right. I don't think he
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: gives a shit about Janelle or Mary or Christine at
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: all except for what they're saying about him because it
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: hurts his egos.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: And the kind of light that will shed on a
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: current lawsuit that he is in. Because again, Christine at
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: the time of this filming, has just sued him for
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: child support. Yes, child support that is retroactive for three years.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: This is child support that will take into account however
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: much money they are siphoning away from that Brown LLC
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: so that she can take her cut. So, like, he's
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: mindful that there's already an active lawsuit and he knows
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: that these women might sue him for coyote pass. And
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: so I'm just wondering if this ultimately incentivizes him to
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: do the right thing, even though maybe he didn't want
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: to do it inside of his heart, his cold dead, demonic,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: black heart.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, it should, It should light a fire under
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: his ass, It should make him do the right thing.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: Because he should do that anyway.
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Yes, but yeah, I could definitely see that, like him
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: finally doing the right thing because he sees this and
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: realizes that he's in deep shit and he needs to
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: get this office plate because honestly, he does, How are
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: you gonna pay for that? Mcmanchon if you've got a
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: bunch of lawyer fees?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, I'm still wondering
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: about that, me too. And it's through these conversations about
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: Cody and being greedy and constantly being out for himself
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: that we get into Neil's observation around narcissism, and she
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: calls out Cody's propensity to love bomb and then for
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: there to be issues and conflict and there's a dip
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: in the relationship and then he comes back in and
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: he love bombs, which is indicative of somebody with narcissism,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: and so Suki tries to dive a little bit more
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: deeply into that, and she's like, look, I'm not a psychologist.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: I'm not here to diagnose people, but I'm like, draw
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: your own conclusions.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like I can see the patterns. Yeah, And that
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: was really great, and I think Christine also echoes this
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: like he's super selfish, he only takes care of himself.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: And then this gets into a conversation about intimacy, which
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: was really interesting with Christine. This is really sad, but
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: it was really interesting to hear her speak about it
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: because we haven't really like talked about it in this
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: in depth before. But Christine talks about her and Cody's socialoge.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Oh god, which I just Mormon love.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, all that's soaking.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Oh God, stop it with their more magical underwear and everything.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Oh man.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: But apparently, according to Christine, in the beginning of their relationship,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: it was fine. It's it was okay, it was man.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: She was taken care of, at least according to Christine.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: But as the years rolled on, and especially once Cody
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: married Robin, it really declined. Christine. According to her, when
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: Cody married Robin, her and Cody were like already pretty
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: much over, but they were kind of hanging on, you know,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: probably for the family and for the kids and stuff
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: like that. But their sex life got really bad, to
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: the point where they were only screwing five times a year, yikes.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: And they were basically just using each other ew for
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: a physical need. And then you know, Cody stopped taking
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: care of her in general, emotionally, financially physical glee, Like,
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: he stopped altogether. She was completely independent, and then she
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: talks about. You know, when she left Cody, she was
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: gonna fook her new man before marriage because she had
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: to make sure that he was attracted to her sexually valid.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Fair, Yeah. I remember when I was setting out
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: into my new life. After I graduated high school, I
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: moved out. I was a missionary. Okay, graduated high school.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: I became a missionary. I was with Ywham Youth with Emissions.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: I traveled to the South Pacific a day and met
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: a boy. Started fooling around a little bit with that boy.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: It was a complete virgin and everything like that. But
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I came back and then I met within a few
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: months my first husband. And I remember my mom telling me, like,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I will not give you my blessing unless you move
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: in with him first and have lots of sex. I
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: do not marry anybody without sampling the d hunting. Make
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: sure it's good, make sure you like it. Make sure
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: he takes care of you, because if he doesn't, it
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: is not worth it. Don't do it, wow, doubt And
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: so I made sure that I did. I absolutely, Oh
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: my god, you cannot say that, kid, that's for the
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: vip matri mine.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: That's fine, Like those are the types of things we
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: talk about and our uncensored bits on Patreon, but like
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: she wanted to make sure that I didn't enter in
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: blindly to a situation that I would regret later on.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I did, And so I can really
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: feel Christine here. She's like, no, I need to make
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: sure he's actually going to be able to get it
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: up for me totally, that he's attracted to me, because
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: Cody made it very clear that I was revolting to
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: him when I ate nachos, and that like he didn't
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: find me physically attractive, and that was so painful.
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: And this was something that Christine talks about was like
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: her biggest I don't want to say like weakness, but
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: like her biggest like sensitivity point that Cody uses this
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: against all the wives, like I think earlier we forgot
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: to talk about it. Cody undermines Janelle and her finances
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: and like how she manages fanitce is because that's really
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: important to her, that's her biggest insecurity. So he attacks that.
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: He attacks Christine's biggest insecurity, which is him not being
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: physically attracted to her, which I think would be a
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: lot of people's biggest insecurity and so this is cody'smo
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: and this is also a pattern of why he's a
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: narcissistic legendly because he loved bombs and he attacks people
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: with the biggest point, and this is how he manipulates
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: people and emotionally abuses them. Right, And it made me wonder, like,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: what was Mary's weakest point?
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Hmm, Yeah, we didn't talk about that.
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: He didn't talk about Mary's and like what he uses
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: against her, But maybe it's because she is so desperate
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: for love and like desperate for his love, and so
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: maybe he weaponizes that, probably because that's her biggest like
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: weak spot, because I swear it's like we talked about this.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: I think last week, like if Cody's just nice to.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Mary, she will take him.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: She will just praise him no matter what and think
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: that he's so great. She doesn't care about anybody else.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: I don't understand it. I don't understand what she sees
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: in him, right, But I guess because they were each
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: other's first loves and I don't know.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: No, but I think that's a really good point. I
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: think that maybe that was Mary's weakness was loneliness and
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: a need for companionship, which is just like a basic
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: human need. That's something that we all wanted, just to
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: love and to be loved. That is what she wanted
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and expected in the relationship, and that is absolutely what
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: he withheld from her and probably made her to feel
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: like she did not deserve it because of the things
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: that she did, because she talks in this episode about
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: how she has carried guilt for other people, like always
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: had to apologize for things or like try to take
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: somebody's pain onto herself and say I'm sorry, And that
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: just echoed to me back to like the catfish and
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: to that betrayal that Cody is still trotting out to
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: try and use against her, so as if he cares,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I think with Mary it might have been that been
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: the desperation for some kind of a connection that he weaponized.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: And see and like, if Mary could get along with Christine,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: they could really commiserate right there, because I feel like
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Christine is very similar ver much. I mean hers was
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: more about like the physical intimacy and stuff like that
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: and the romance, but like it's still that you want
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: that companionability. You want to feel like your partner loves
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: and desires you. And I feel like if Mary could
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: just get her the stick out of her ass, like
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: maybe her and Christine could be friends, But I digress.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that ship has sailed.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agreed, And then we get into more of
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: a detailed conversation about PDA and making out with people.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Listen, is this the part where we had to watch
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: the clips of the compilation Christinea and David making out
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: like over and over and over again. I just had
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: to go limp. I had to vacate my body, my consciousness,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: had to leave the earth plane and travel anywhere where.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: I didn't have to hear.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: And see that.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: I know, Like we didn't have to have the sound
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: of that at all.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Oh god, no, I didn't.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: We didn't need to hear that. And honestly, I wanted
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: to forget about all of that because we talked about
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: this many months ago, Yes, when we covered these episodes.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Y how cringe Christine was with just making out with
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: David all the time, and like, look, we're happy for her,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: that's great, but it has been a lot. Yeah, it
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: has been a lot of PDA.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: And even Janelle's like, yeah, like that's great at all,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: but I don't necessarily want to hear all those noises
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: and even my kids are like, that's a lot, mom,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: It is a lot. And in the moment with Suki,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: it seems like Christine and David are aware that it's
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: a bit cringe, and so she's a little bit embarrassed,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: although David's like, I love it. Yeah, I love the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: lap dance too, and she's like, oh, David.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: No, no, I'm so glad they didn't show that.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: But you know he wanted to talk about it more.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because he loved that. I'm sure he loved it,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: which one both maybe he plays for both David, but
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: gets into a conversation about like PDA and how they
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: couldn't really show a lot of PDA in their plural
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: marriages and that this was kind of a rule that
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: they established.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Early on before Robin, before.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Robin, which Robin talks about how she wasn't really fond
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: of that.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: But she did not have a choice and she was
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: told force. She had to conform. Yeah, she had no
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: say it's so awful, and Sukie asks her, well, who
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: told you that? She's like, I don't want to. I
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: don't want to say.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: I don't want to name names.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: It's Christine.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: You think it's Christine.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: I do think it's Christine because then they panned to
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: Christine and Christine's like, yeah, like you need those kinds
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: of rules though in polygamy, because if one marriage isn't
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: really working out and then you see your husband having
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: affection with another wife, like it's it's really hard. And
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: so I do think it was probably Christine, maybe a
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: little bit of Mary, because Janelle is like, I didn't care. Yeah,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: like they can make out. That's fine, that's they're married.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: And I understand that, right.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I think it was probably Mary and Christine because I
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: think Mary probably didn't like it either. I mean, but
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: then Cody says some shit about how Janelle's mom came
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: to him early on in their marriage and said, hey,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: quit making out with Mary in front of Janelle because
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: it makes her feel bad. But then you have Janelle
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: saying I never cared, and.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: She doesn't seem like the type who would have cared.
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: No, not at all. Yeah, because she knew that they
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: had other marriages. She even says that she's like, of course,
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: like I expected that. I feel like Janelle, out of
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: all of them, didn't care at all. But I think
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: when Robin came into the picture and the other wives
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: like Mary and Christine saw how much in love Cody
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: was with Robin, and that's obvious, Like you don't have
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: to kiss and everything for people to like, you know,
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: just by how they hold each other.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: It's a vibe.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: It's a vibe check check crime check, So like they know.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: I think that was probably what the conversations were. But
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: then we have Cody bringing up a story that he
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: doesn't want to talk about out, but he's going to
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: talk about it a little bit anyway, so that way
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: we all wonder about it, about how him and Robin
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: didn't feel safe to show their affection in the family
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: because of something that happened that was so awful and
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: so traumatic apparently, but he won't say about what. He
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: won't say about.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Who, only that it caused them to be kicked out
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: of the family.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: Hicked out of the family. What does that mean?
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think what caused you to be
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: kicked out of the family is your destructive and damaging
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: behavior and the way that your wife has isolated you
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: away from the rest of your wives and your children.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: That's what caused there to be an estrangement. But like
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: really got me thinking he's either straight up lying. He's
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: just saying that because he wants people to think that
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: they're victims as usual or there's something that happened, but
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: when it's not something that I've seen in any of
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: the seasons that I've watched. But in the back of
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: my mind, I keep thinking about mchael no longer talking
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: to Cody and Robin because of something that happened at
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the funeral, right, And I can't imagine that.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: They would be like Maine out right at Garrison's gravesite
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: or something, but I can see a world, especially when
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: you have them riding on the same horse and she's like,
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: oh my god, he's such a rancher and a cowboy.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Are like trying to be a little bit extra in
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: terms of the PDA. Like what if they were doing
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: that around the time of the funeral and it was
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: just like way too fucking much for the family and
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: they're like, that's it. I've had enough of you a holes.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: I never want to see you again.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: I could see that one hundred percent, I mean, but
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Cody says that he can't show affection in front of
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Mary and Janelle with Robin until they're married off. So
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: something happened with those two is what he's implying. But
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe he's just lying.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I think he's probably lying.
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: He's gotta be.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: But if he's not lying, it feels like it's something
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: that's more recent than something that happened a long long
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: time ago.
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: That would make sense.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: But I don't know, what does everybody think, because let's
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: workshop this and try to put our little raccoon heads
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: together figure it out. Yeah, to see what happened.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: But I'm just like, screw you, Cody, Why are you
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: bringing up a story? And I'm not saying I don't
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: want to talk about it, like talk about start stirring
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: the pot and starting drama. And then you want to
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: say some bullshit like well, the world just hates true love.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: Right when you're in love, you are subject to so much.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like, shut up, get this man off of my television.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: He is so rude, he is so dismissive of Suki.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I actually felt like it was a little triggered for
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Suki because it was like she was dealing and she
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: knew she was dealing with an abuser, like trying to
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: have a conversation and we talked about this last week. Yeah,
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: but just trying to finesse like a way in to
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: keep that person talking and expressing themselves without like also
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: activating this irrational part of them that causes them to
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: lash out, which Cody the way he looks at her
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: like he's just like, I think that's all I want
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: to say about that. It's so aggress Oh my god,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: sit across from me and try to speak to me
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: that way, you fucking piece of shit. See how that
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: goes for you, my guy, it ain't gonna go very well.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Like the self control that Suki has when he's being
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: so disrespectful is out of this world. Props to Suki
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: for that, because I would have just been cursing that
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: small little man. And now he's taping up the tendrils.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Did you notice that side bar hood is because you
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: before we have the tendrils down on the forehead. He's
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: now got like a headband back there. He's got a
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: rubber band or something. He's gluing his stupid tendrils due
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: bald ass peate. He looks foolish. He is foolish. He's dumb,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: he's a liar, and I'm just like, I don't know
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: how Suki didn't salt him physically right there. Not to
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: advocate for that.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: You know what, speaking of that sidebar with his hair,
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: you think he would have siphoned some of that family
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: money to like go to Turkey and get those hair
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: plugs and stuff. Yeah, because I'm like, dude, you could
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: have like fixed your hair, maybe earlier in the seasons
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: when it was like starting to really receive. You would
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: have fixed it, Yep, before it got to this point,
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: because what happens when those tentrils fall off then you
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: literally have this giant, gaping cul de sac. Yeah, with
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: your little ramen noodles taped on the back of your head.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: It looks so preposterous. It would so infinitely better just
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: to shave it, yeah, like David does. Just get rid
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: of it, rock the balld. But nope, here we go
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: looking like a peacock, looking like a deranged, narcissistic, demonic peacock.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Straight.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I hate him so much, just the energy he was bringing.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: And again I was just frothing thinking about like why DLC,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: I know, why do you indulge this little, hateful, awful,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: abusive man. Why do you let him sit on the couch.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: He's getting paid for this and he's giving absolutely nothing.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: He's lying to Suki's face. And then there's Robin, also
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: lying and giving absolutely nothing. She can't even be arked
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: to watch the clips that they're presenting. Thiss to traumatize.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: It's so hard for traumatiz. God, get some balls to
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: LC fire these people. Oh my god, if Suki would
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: have just said, okay, well, if you're unwilling to answer
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: any of these questions, you can leave yep.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: And you won't get paid for the next two tell alls.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: And then just say nothing like that intentional pause and
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: see what he does. You can get up and leave,
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for your time.
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: Bye.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: That'd be so great.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Nobody wants you here.
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: That would be so great if she could do that,
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: But they won't because they kind of need Cody and Robin.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: I think it can eat Cody and Robin. I mean,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: I know, but like we also all watch the show.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: I hate the show though at the same time I
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: hate the show.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: We watched the show anyway, though. That's the thing.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I'm starting to hate it more and more. Somebody save me.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Like these people are irredeemable. There's really no light in them,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: there's no good in them. Well that's because being persecuted
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: because the world hates true love okay, and the world
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: hates Cody and Robin's truelove. Why do they get to
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: get away with it? Why do they get to get
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: a two point one million dollar mansion? Oh that won't
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: last night, although we needed, we should revisit that because
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know how they are going to pay for this.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: They could only just pull the plug please on these people.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, we would see them flounder and flails
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: bankrupt and declare bankruptcy. It like TLC's not on our side. No,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: production doesn't give a crap about what we want, and
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: so he gets to sit there like a little peacock,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: terrible a hole and disrespect Suki. He's trying our hardest
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: to get anything out of him. Sorry, tangent over.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: She definitely is. And I think she did an interview
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: with Sarah Frasier. We didn't watch it because I don't
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: like Sarah. I'm sorry you, oh, but I think she
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: was trying to talk about that and talk about how
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: difficult it was to try and keep everything straight with
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: interviewing all of these people for hours upon hours on
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: end and doing individual interviews and like having to be
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: respectful and like having to deal with Cody like she
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: I watched a clip where Suki was telling Sarah Frasier, like,
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: imagine sitting in front of Cody Brown for hours and
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: trying to talk to him and like deal with how
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: aggressive he is and how like how much his energy is,
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: Like it's so intense. So I get it. I understand,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Like I know we've been hard on Suki, but it's
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: like it's more of I'm annoyed with production and how
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: they do this one on one and how we don't
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: have everybody involved together in the same room. It's annoying, yeap.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: And then we talk about After the World Hates True Love.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: We talk about Robin and Mary's relationship or lack thereof,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: and their friendship and how it's kind of deteriorated. Suki
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: talks about how Mary and Robin used to be very
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: close and now they aren't anymore. And then we watch
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: a clip of Robin fake crying when Mary was moving
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: out of her house and Flagstaff and giving her that
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: junk journal and how she was really sad for Mary
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: to leave her all alone and flies that by herself.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: And this is where Mary talks about how well the
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: relationship hasn't been reciprocal for a really long time. I'm
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: tired of reaching out. Well.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: But before she says that, though, Beatrice Suki asks her, well,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: what do you think of like Robin crying? Oh yeah,
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: and Mary says, well, I mean I think she was
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: coming to terms with the reality that it was done
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: because she had spent so much time advocating for me
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: and trying to keep Cody and Die together and it
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: just didn't work. And so she was sitting in the
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: awareness of that. Yeah, I'm like, no, she came. She
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: hadn't seen you probably in weeks, if not months. She
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: came to perform for the cameras, to cry on cute
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: and give you an ugly journal and then get out
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: as soon as possible. Can we call a spade a
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: spabe and just say what it is?
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: That's what's so annoying about Mary's like she just doesn't
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: see these situations for what they are. And like, granted,
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: you know, Mary a bit of a victim in this situation,
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: like she's a victim of Cody's narcissistic abuse allegedly, you know,
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: like I get it, But at the same time, it's like,
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: holy shit, Like wake up and just see it. And
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: Christine comments about it and comments about how unfair it
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: was for Robin to constantly tell Mary, no, Cody still
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: loves you and you guys should try and work things out,
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: and blah blah blah. Like Christine straight up says, it's bullshit.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: It was a manipulation, yep, which I loved Christine for
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: saying that. And I hope Mary watches that and takes
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: that in because all of her other friends are saying that.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: Right, and so you would think that Mary actually thinks
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: that as well. Right, She's just choosing not to acknowledge
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: it in this moment for some reason. I don't get it,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: But like Christine is one hundred percent correct, this was
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: a manipulation. Robin wants you to stay because it's easier
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: for her if you do. And I'm just wondering, were
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: you still financially contributing while you were in Flags? She
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: probably was, and if so, how much?
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wonder it would be really nice.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Of course Robin didn't want you to leave.
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course not because Robin needs the money. She's
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: not gonna be able to pay for all those American
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: girl dollars.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Sixty thousand dollars in a year be.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: A draged insane. And then this is where Christine says
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: that Mary's friends are actually really awesome and really great
• 40:19
  Speaker 3: for her because they're healthy and telling her the truth
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: and being honest, and that Robin was never really a
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: good friend because if Christine was in Robin's shoes, she
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: would have been telling Mary to leave years ago, because
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: even Christine saw the dysfunction between Mary and Cody. It
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: seems like everybody saw it except for Mary for some reason.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: And then we have Cody saying that actually, Mary's friends
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: are just jealous of Robin because they actually want to
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: be Mary's BFF, just like Robin was Mary's BFF, and
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: that's why they're talking so much about me.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: And Robin, right, They're just jealous, right.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: And then the last top that we get into is
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: the luk agerec well, let's do bring in Robin, because
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: she does comment and say, oh.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that like she would be willing to have a
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: friendship with Mary. I mean, if there's something I need
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: to fix, I'm definitely willing to fix it. But I
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: have no idea what I would need to fix in
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: the first place, because I haven't done anything wrong. She
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: also talks about how when Mary left Flagstaff, she said like, yeah,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: we can stay friends. And then it was Robin who
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: reached out and said, hey, when you travel I don't
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: know how many hours back to flag Staff and do
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: all the work and pay for the gas and put
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: the miles on your car to come back to flag Staff,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: let's go do something fun together. Yeah, I have to
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: do all the work. And then she never really heard
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: from Mary, so like she needs to reciprocate too, And
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I was thinking, okay, Robin, what about the I don't
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: know four years that Mary was in Flagstaff living down
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: the road from you, Like she selected a rental with
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: a jungle gym in the back so your kids could
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: come over, so she could hang out with your family.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: All she wanted was to be a part of your family,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: and you assured her that she would be. But then
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: after she got after you got her money from the
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: sale of her house in Vegas, it was crickets. Yeah,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: so what about all that time when you just ghosted
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Mary Like, no, we don't want to address that. We
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: just want to address well, since she left flag Staff,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: I really haven't heard from her.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: See, and that's such a manipulative thing that she's even
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: doing right there, because Mary's the one that starts off
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: saying it wasn't reciprocal. And Mary's been saying this for
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: the last couple episodes in this season, like I just
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: don't feel the same energy from Robin that I'm trying
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: to give to her, so like why do I even bother?
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: And now Robin's trying to say no, actually, Mary's the
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: one that's not reciprocating, and she does kind of say this, like, well,
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: we both feel like it's not reciprocal, So I guess
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: it's just gonna be how it is, right, But I
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: do want to fix it though, because I'm a good person.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Well, and for somebody who keeps talking about recency bias,
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: like you're just relying on what happened recently, you're not
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: really speaking to the many years that preceded Mary leaving
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: Flagstaff and how you treated her as a friend or
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: like failed to treat her as a friend. I speak
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: to that, but of course she won't know, and production
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: is not going to compel her to. And then we
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: get to the luggage rack.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we talk about the luggage rect again. We see
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: another clip of Christina Janelle talking about the luggage rack situation.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: I think at Gwenn's engagement party or.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Some I think it was Christine's actually something for christs
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: at the cantina where she's eating the beria and she
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: gets the juice on her white someone's I don't know,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: something like that.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: Who cares. They talked about the luggage ract though, and
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: how Janelle and Christine bonded over this, and how it
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: was more of a symbol for the fact that Cody
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: was a selfish piece of shit and didn't care about
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: the other wives, and then Suki asks everybody in the
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: one on ones about the luggage rag and Mary is
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: the one that's like, stop complaining, Christina and Janelle, this
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: is so petty. Stop complaining, Like I just don't see
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: the point and like comparing our relationships and complaining about
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: these stupid petty things.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. Maybe Christine has suffered over twenty
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: years of traumatic neglect from a man who has also
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: neglected you, yeah, Mary hell, and so maybe it's going
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: to take her a little bit of time to get
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: over that. And maybe David is a safe space where
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: she can actually off gas and vent and share with
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: him her issues and like how it affected her, and
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: so I'm sorry if you don't want to hear it anymore.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: But maybe that's because you don't want to deal with
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: your own stuff and face the fact that Cody did
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: all of this and more to you as well, and
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: you just seem to be okay with it. And I
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: don't know why, because you like to preach about worthying
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: up and standing I guess ten toes down and who
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: it is that you are? But who are you?
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: Though? I know you?
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Only who are you? Like? Why are you aligning yourself
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: even passively with these people who have strayed up financially
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: abused you and the otherwives and all of those kids?
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: Like who are you? Though?
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: I really don't understand it, And I don't understand why.
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: She's like really double down on this, like why are
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: you talking about Cody to David? Christine? Like why are
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: you doing that? It's like this is what Cody is saying.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: Cody says, like, well, I can't believe Christine and Janelle
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: are still talked about me. They divorced me, though, but
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: they're still talking about me. She's echoing the same shit
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: that Cody is saying. I don't understand why you're doing
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: this doesn't make any sense. And like any normal person
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: will talk about their ex from time to time with
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: their current relationship because that's just what you do. And
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: I don't want to be mean, but I was just
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: gonna say, like, sorry, Mary, you're not in a relationship,
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: so right, understand.
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: That, right, and just building upon that, Like you've never
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: really been in a great relationship or a healthy relationship
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: where you were centered and focused, like the focus, and
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: anybody gave you like unconditional lefts, so you don't even
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: know what that's like. And so Christine is in a
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: whole new experience and it's safe for her to talk
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: about these things. She's in an experience that you've never had,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: so you're uneducated on the matter entirely, and you want
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: to sit there in judgment about how these other women
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: are processing, keeping in mind that this is a show, yeah,
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: And like we're sitting down for a one on one
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: and Christine gets to bring her partner, so he's gonna
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: be there to witness whatever she has to say on
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: the subject of the show exactly. I don't know why
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: it's so mystifying to you, Mary, other than you just
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: want to be, I don't know, the best ex wife,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: the favorite ex wife.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're such a pigmy for Cody Brown.
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Right, you want to be the best ex wife and
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: you don't want to make him mad or whatever, Like
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: how is that working for you?
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: Yes? And that's the aspect of Mary that really just
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: annoys me, because I'm just like, I don't understand how
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: you can like try and play both sides where you
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: are critical sometimes of Cody, but then you go back
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: and defend him against the other OG wives and then
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: shit on the other OG wives for talking about him
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: and talking about their experiences with him. So gross.
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: Well, conversely, I found it interesting generally that while Cody
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: from time to time was a bit critical of Christine,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: in this episode, he was for the most part really
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: post yeah, talking about like well, like she's obviously found
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: somebody she wants to eat his face. I wish nothing
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: but the best for her, And I'm like, why are
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: you being so nice? But it's because you got sued
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: by her, it's the lawsuit. You don't want to antagonize her.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: You probably know if this goes to discovery exactly what
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: she's gonna discover about you, So you best not you
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: best not piss her off.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: I was thinking that because I'm like, are you actually
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: happy with this? Because with how you reacted a couple
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: of seasons ago with Christine actually leaving.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: You, you were freaking kidney and the kidney dumb.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: He was so fucking mad. But now he's like trying
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: to be all mature and.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: Like he's it great, She's so happy and.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: That's what she always wanted. It was kind of interesting
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: that he was acknowledging that Christine was a huge romantic
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: and like she always wanted this like intimate romantic relationship
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: that he could not provide her. And when they were
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: talking about the intimacy, like he says that they both
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: were just like not really into it, And so there
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: was some aspect in him, maybe deep down in the
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: cold dark depths of his heart, he's like acknowledging a
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: little bit of accountability for their broken marriage. But I
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: think you're right. I think it's about the way.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: You didn't really hear that with Janelle. Like he seemed
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: to be more angry with Janelle, and I was just like,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: he knows that Janelle just lost her son. You think
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: he would be a little more careful a little softer
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: with whatever he has to say about Janelle because he
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: knows the pain of that loss. But no, he wasn't.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: No, he's bitter.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think he's motivated by money and he's
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: just trying to defend himself and what he has. Defie
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: doesn't care about Janelle and he doesn't think Janelle can
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: do anything to him.
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: No, well, because remember his biggest fearest poverty, right, So
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: he'll do anything he can to avoid that. But we'll see,
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: only time will tell, yes. But anyway, when we get
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: back to the luggage rag conversation, oh god, are we
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: not done with?
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: No, we're not okay.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Larry says, it's petty complaining. Christine and Janelle talk about
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: how it's like a funny thing that they commiserated over,
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: and then we get to Robin. No, actually, then we
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: get to Cody, and Cody says, well, I don't remember
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: a luggage rack, and actually there was no luggage rack
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: because me and Christine were in a four door sedan,
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: there was no luggage racks. So he's trying to pretend
• 49:19
  Speaker 3: like he doesn't even remember, or like the memory doesn't even.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Exist, or that he didn't watch the clips that we
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: all just watched and we saw him watching in which
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: they were talking about being in a hotel and using
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: the luggage rack in the hotel. So he's being antagonistic
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: to Suki here. He's like, yeah, well we didn't even
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: have a luggage rack on the car.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: Yes, but we're talking about the hotel, right, Yeah, and
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: then he says something to dig at Christine, like if
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: she's going to continue to compare herself to Robin, she's
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: going to be super unhappy. So again, this is like
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: the narrative that Cody has that oh it's Christine just
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: comparing yourself to Robin, like Robin's actually perfect and it's
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Christine who's crazy and I was actually a really good husband.
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: And then we get to Robin and Suki asks, well
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: did you get the luggage rack and Robin says, well,
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: yes I did, but this is also stupid, but yeah
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: I did get the luggage rack.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so smugs so smug.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then she says something like, well maybe it's
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: because I put my luggage there first.
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: So again putting the onus on the wives, right and
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: not Cody being selfish. Yeah, And then we end the
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: episode with Suki telling Christine, yeah, Robin got the luggage rack,
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: and Christine's all shocked.
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: Like we didn't know that.
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: I've been knowing.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, but like, how hard would it have been,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Beatrice for somebody just to break it down for everybody
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: else and say, well, what the luggage rack symbolizes is
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: that Cody puts himself first and he doesn't really care
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: about me and my luggage, and so my stuff has
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: to go on the floor, and he only cares about himself.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: And if he does put Robin's luggage on the luggage rack,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: that means he cares about her. But why didn't he
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: care about us? That's that's what they're really trying to highlight,
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: which is legitimate and valid, which we could actually have
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: a deeper conversation about, but we never kind of get
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: to those depths, and so it just just look at
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: you track conversation.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: It's like super annoying to me, frustrating that we can't
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: just like confront Cody and Robin directly and be like,
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: you guys preferred each other, Like that was the biggest
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: issue between your whole entire family. You guys found love,
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: you guys preferred each other. You broke up the family
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: because you couldn't keep your hands off of each other.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Like that's it, but like we can't be that direct
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: with them, no, And it's.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Really annoying, well because Robin will straight up lie about it, yes,
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: and Cody will throw a temper tantrum about it. Yeah,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: just stop talking exactly.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: It's super annoying.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: And then we get to the preview for hopefully the
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: last episode of this season. But I'm just like, I
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: wonder if we're going to have another like little special
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: or something.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: Come on for what.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I just feel like they're going to
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: have something, but hopefully not. Hopefully next week is the
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: last one on one. And we have Janelle again saying
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: that Cody is hyper focused on appearances. We know, I
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: don't care.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: We've been dying. I don't care. Holy crap.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: Then we have Cody saying that even though Janelle and
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: Christine divorced him, they still talk about him, Like again,
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: we're talking. We're on a show. I know, we have
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: to keep talking about you. Robin saying that she's not
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: tracking any of the complaints from the other wives. I
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: don't get it.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know what they're saying, I'm like not keeping
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: up with any of this because I don't really care.
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Just give me my paycheck.
• 52:34
  Speaker 3: You are totally keeping up with it though, she's totally
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: watching all of the footage.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Look at her eyebrows. She changed him the criticism.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, she's on the redditch she's reading. And then we
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: have Mary saying that she never introduced Robin to Cody.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Interesting, which is very interesting because this has been a
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: matter of sister wives lore and I hope that she
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: actually explains how it actually went down, but I doubt
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: that we'll get there.
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we get into the conversation about the
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: lightning bolts and the pussy. Yeah, and how Cody only
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: ever had that feeling with Robin. Robin only ever had
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: that feeling with him. But Christine says she had that
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: lightning bolt in her pussy.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: For Cody, which is amazing.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: Yep, but yikes, Cody says that never happened. Yeah, I
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: mean we know this because Cody was apparently repulsed by
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: Christine gusted since the.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: For real.
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: And then we have Robin or sorry Cody saying that
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: Robin laid him in a bed, a rose garden bed
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: of trust.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: I hate him.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: I hate him so disgusting the way he describes their
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: love honestly, and then Suki asking Cody if he would
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: do this all over again, plural marriage being with the
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: og Wives, and I really hope he says yes, because if.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: He will say yes because of his children.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: But I don't know's he Cody, If he's like no,
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: all of his children are just like Dad. I feel
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: like he's gonna say no.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: I feel like he's gonna say yes. I think he
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: has enough like awareness to understand that he cannot say no.
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: I would hope not. Maybe he'll say yes for the children,
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: but no for the wives.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: We'll see yeah in the final installment of Sister Wives
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: season nine.
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: I hope it's the final installment.
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: So exhausted, like my eyes are crossing. Yeah, And it's
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: just it's just like running through the timeline and the
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: clips and the commentary of things we've already discussed a
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: million times before. I feel like these tell nothings could
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: have been condensed into one episode to get like the
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: things we want to talk about, which is Coyote Pass
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: for real, the divorces, maybe the friendship between Mary and
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Robin or whatever. But like we didn't need to spend
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: this much time. It's just eching it out, Yes.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: It really is. They're trying to get as much money
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: as they can, I think apparently, and then we're gonna
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: have allegedly season twenty at the end of like the
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: end of the summer.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, something like August or September, according to Nicki Haverstock.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: And this is a rumor only. Oh but let's get
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: back to the second McMansion. I did want to just
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: talk about this with you again because Nikki Haverstock like
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: apparently saw either the receipts heard from a realtor that
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Cody and Robin were thoroughly extended on the original mcmanson,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: meaning anytime their home increased inequity like they were a
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: little bit up, they took out a loan, they refinanced,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: they did a heelog but they pulled that equity out
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: And there were multiple loans against the first McMansion, so
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: much so that even though they sold it, I would
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: imagine for one point six I know they listed it
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: for one point six million, they had loans against it
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: for a lot, if not almost the entire amount. And
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: we know they purchased the second McMansion with a down
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: payment that came out of a trust and it was
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: for like four hundred thousand dollars, So that's how they
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: made the down payment. But I just feel like there
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: wasn't a whole lot of additional liquidity other than well,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: the assets aren't liquid, Like they didn't really have a
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: whole lot of money to put down or to spend
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: in order to purchase this home. And I'm just really
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: wondering now as we're exiting the season, they're in the house.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: They've got it, Yeah, they sold the other house. Yeah, Like,
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: how are they going to make these payments? Because four
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars down payment on a two point one
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: million dollar home is still one point seven million dollars
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: that they're financing unless they were able to throw some
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: more money at it. I do one point seven million dollars.
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: What kind a mortgage are you looking at? With that?
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Mean it's at least ten thousand to fifteen thousand a month, right, Oh,
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: at least.
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: And then depending on what interest rate they get it
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: at too, Like if they got it at six percent, right,
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: oh my, I.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Mean it was terrible last year. It was the sevens.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: It's really bad, and like flag Staff is not a
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: cheap area now, Like I don't know what their property
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: taxes and stuff are like either, and then you have
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: all the utilities and stuff, like I don't know how
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: they're paying for this shit. Maybe that's why Cody has
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: dropped seeds this season about selling Coyote Pass, because I
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: know Robin doesn't want to. She wants us to believe
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: that she's still holding onto the dream or whatever. But
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: maybe that's why Cody's like, we got to figure this
• 57:30
  Speaker 3: out so we can sell, so they can use that
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: money to maybe put towards the house or whatever. I
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: could see something like that.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: I'm just really wondering how all of this is being
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: balanced by Cody and Robin. And as we've discussed millions
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: of times before, but it's just like so juicy not
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: to continue to reiterate like what happens when Sister Wives
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: goes away or we do something like an after Sister
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Wives with just the girls and what they're doing and
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: just the kids, and like know Cody and Robin, like
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: what are they going to do. They're gonna have to
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: sell their house? Oh, they're definitely they're not gonna They're
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: gonna have to downsize all of their vehicles. Ye all
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: of the college tu wish it gos my.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: God, there's no way, Like if they were like actually
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: smart with their money, kind of like with Christine and David,
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: Like David's got that nice construction business, like he's making money,
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: Christine's making money with her MLM stuff and stuff, and
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: then they have their airbnbs.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Right now to their own home.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: Yep, They've got a lot of passive income that they're
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: too and fine. And they got like a nice house,
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: like and I'm not trying to like downplay it, like
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: it's a modest house compared to Cody and Robin's McMansion,
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: which is ugly by the way, it's horrid, absolutely horrid,
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: But like they got a nice house with a nice
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: view and everything. They're not like living beyond their means.
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: They're like I don't think so, I would hope not.
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: It seems like they're doing pretty okay, but like Cody
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: and Robin are not smart. They have this huge mansion,
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: Like I think they're either taking out debt to pay
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: some utility bills and stuff like that, like they're screwing themselves.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: And Robin I think has a legitimate spending problem. Definitely,
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Like the fact that you are allegedly purchasing sixty thousand
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: dollars worth of American girl dolls. I think in a year, right,
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: Like was it over time?
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: It was like in a month.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: I mean at least a year, if not a month.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: The fact that you're spending money on such stupid, frivolous
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: things while there's like a lawsuit pending a potential second
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: lawsuit because they didn't know whether Mary and Janelle were
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: going to sue and what they were going to get.
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: Like the fact that you're still just bleeding money like
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: that means that this is your personality. This is the
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff that you do, means that you're doing
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: it right now in addition to having to pay for
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: all of your kids cars and the insurance and the
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: mortgage and all of the things. Oh my god, I'm
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: stressed out just thinking about that. And the thing is
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: is these two people, and I hate to like count
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: people's coins, and I hate to be judging in this way,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: but they don't deserve it.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: No, they don't.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: They don't deserve to live a life of lavish luxury.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: When the mothers, the other mothers, the other wives and
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: the kids don't have their fair share. I mean, I
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: don't begrudge anybody their wealth. I think like, if you're
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: earning it, you're building, that's fantastic. But like when you're
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: stealing it though, or when it's not fair allegedly, like
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: when you're siphoning money away from people who have earned
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: that money, like you should not be able to prosper.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: And so I'm just they won't monkling this like waiting
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: for the moment when the House of Cards falls.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: It's inevitable at this point. Karma is a bitch, like
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: Jojo Siwah has said. And so I think it's going
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: to happen. We're going to see it, we're going to
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: be reporting on it.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: But like the Cody and the Robin that we're watching
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: in these tell alls, they're living like that's never going
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: to happen. They're living like they have the power in
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: this situation and they can tell Suki what to do,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: and they can answer the questions as they wish. They're
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: living as if this is not a precarious situation that
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: they're in. For me, I would be like ingratiating myself.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: It's like what can of course you can come into
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: my house to film. Absolutely, I'll share my life story
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: with you. But they have no sense of what is
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: coming for them.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: I mean they're so delusional, But like, wouldn't you have
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: to be if you were in this big of a hole?
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: Like if that shit that Nikki Haverstock is saying is
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: true about the multiple leans on their loans on their
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: previous big mansion and then having to sell that having
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: no liquidation, and then having to put take money out
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 3: of a trust? Like whose trust was that was that?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: And how did you build that?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: No, it's their trust. But how did they build that trust?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Exactly off the backs of the women that were disenfranchised
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: and the children who were exploited to make this show?
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, what if they like, what if they took
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: all that money out so that way nobody could fight
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: for it. What if they took all that money and
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: then put it into the house kind of like a
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: money laundering scheme. Mm hmm, like washing their money so
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: that way nobody would try and take any of it.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: And what if Janelle saw it? What if Janelle saw
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: the movement of the money. And she's a smart cookie,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: you can't tell me if she saw it. She wasn't
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: wondering to herself, like what are they doing with that?
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: And I see all these assets building and we have
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Maddie who's her daughter, talking about those assets. So they're talking.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Janelle and Maddie are talking together. Yeah, it's like, why
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: did Janelle let that happen?
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: I don't get it? Or maybe that was this straller
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: broke the camel's baby girl.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Interesting, interesting stuff. And we're talking about
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: the things everybody wants to talk about, by which Suki
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: will not ask them, of course. Not so all right, Well,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: is there anything else that we need to say to
• 1:02:39
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• 1:02:43
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• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: We have one more episode from Sister Wives season nineteen
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: that's going to be next week. We will be back
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: for that to discuss all of that and more, and
• 1:03:03
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• 1:03:06
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• 1:03:09
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• 1:03:12
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