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In fact, it's essential. Well, welcome folks to today's
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Monday edition of the Whitfield Report Podcast and Happy March.
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Depending on where you listen, when you're listening to this,
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we may or may not be involved in a war with Iran, but you know
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that that's, you know, that's the Ayatollah.
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So, you know, everything checks out.
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But joining me here for today's show, as always, is the
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incredible Jake Whitmer, who, man, I've gotten lots of, you
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know, positive feedback on American Inferno.
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But Jake Widmer has a unique ability to take really, like,
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gritty and honestly, like complex topics like human
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trafficking and condense them down to their bare essence,
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which is what he did in his new book Raid on Maplewood Hollow,
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which is fantastic. It's coming as soon, and Jake
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has a bevy of other books that he's writing in this Destroy arc
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and the Chris Foley series. I'm here for it and I dig it.
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So, Jake, welcome to the program.
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How are you, Sir? Good man, Thanks for having me
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again. Love coming on here talking shop
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with you and I appreciate you taking the time to be one of the
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beta readers for Maplewood Hollow.
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Yeah, well, thank you for sending me an art copy, believe
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it or not. I don't know if this means that
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like, I'm a that like I'm a psychopath, but this one was,
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this one was actually a light reading compared to compared to
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reading, you know, back through American and Inferno.
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And that's it. That's saying something
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considering that like, you know, I'm dealing with political
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assassinations and you're dealing with stories that are
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kind of adjacent to the whole Epstein thing, it seems like so.
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Yeah, like we were talking like off screen right right before we
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started like like this is people are either going to say this is
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perfect timing or bad timing with all the recent leaks and
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everything. But I, I started writing this a
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while a couple months ago, before the recent leaks and
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everything, all the horrible shit that came out about what
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our powers that be are doing. But yeah, I think I'm glad you
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read. You flew through it.
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It's it's my novella just for people.
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I have one right here. It's a pretty thin little,
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little action story. It's meant to be shocking in
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some instances. But you know, that's the point.
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Human trafficking isn't isn't like, isn't Teletubbies so.
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No, not at all, although you know, with some of the PBS
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executives being being listed in the files, you know.
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Yeah, yeah. But yeah, it's it's it was.
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I got like I told you and like I was talking to our good buddy
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Richard Maverick about this one. I like the first little bit of
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the Epstein files were released and me going down the rabbit
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hole because of course I did, got really, really angry about
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how these people are probably going to never be punished for
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what they've done at all. Not just the kids, but the other
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victims of human trafficking as well.
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And I always say that my writing is a form of therapy.
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So I just started writing and that ended up becoming the next
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like the start of the next arc post Merc War because Merc War
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kind of like ended like the whole arc of Chris Foley figure
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out who he is becoming a vigilante world.
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Right on, right on. Maplewood Hollow is going to be
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a whole new era of the Folly verse going forward.
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Merc War Merc war was fantastic. And so I, I was actually
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thinking out this today, like when you finish something that
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like you're really proud of I, I don't know about you, but like,
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I always have the thing like I just did with American Inferno.
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Like I think American Inferno is my best work.
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And I'm like sitting here now being like, how do I top this?
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And have you ever felt the same way with, with your work?
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Yeah, I guess. I felt that mostly not really
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because Merck war, because Merck war, I started doing the the
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Zach James technique where I just started working on multiple
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projects at once. So I knew where I was going.
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And I know that like like not everything's going to top each
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other. But I really only felt that
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after my third book, The Real Monster, because I didn't know
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what the hell I was doing after that.
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Because I that's my personal favorite that I wrote so far out
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of everything because of how different it is from the rest of
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the series. Yeah.
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My whole I, I try not to get bogged down in that when my
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whole writing thing is I just keep, I just keep typing until
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I'm done for the day. Like I'm going to keep going of
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Chris Foley until I either like can't write anymore or he dies.
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That's what I'm going to do. Yeah, I, I and it's, it's funny
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that we both that we both have multiple books and we call it
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the the Zach James technique. I, I have, I have the same, I
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have the same thing where I write like, you know, two or
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three books at at a time. But it's, you know, shout to
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Zach James because we, we should probably give you like, I don't
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know, trademark royalties or something for, you know, coining
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the Zach James technique or something.
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So. And yeah, he's got a new book
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coming here soon too. I.
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Think I'm so hyped for I got to shout.
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I got to, I got to shout my boy out really quick.
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I am so hyped for the next modern mercenary book it's not
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even funny. I just finished listening to the
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audio book version of of. Oh, this is going to be really
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bad because I I just finished listening.
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Is it? Is it awkward?
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It's it's occupant the you know, the second bug in his sci-fi
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series yeah, which which is really good, especially like
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considering that he narrates this one and he's actually like
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a fantastic narrator. Yeah, narrator.
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So. He is, but yes, Zach James
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technique has been serving me well lately.
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Man, I've just been cruising through like laying on final,
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finally doing like a plan instead of just winging it like
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I have that in the past so. Yeah.
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I mean, I mean, ever since, I mean, I've published, I
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published like two or three books a year now with that, you
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know, with that technique. And some of them are, you know,
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novellas too. But anyway, getting back to
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Radon, Maplewood, Holland, kind of this whole, I guess, ARC that
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you're going with, what was what was your impetus to say, OK, I'm
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going from more Merck wars to, you know, pedal hunting, for a
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lack of a better term? Like what was it that made you
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wake up and be like, I'm going to do this?
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So Merck war was the closest to like I would say like as Tom
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Clancy's I'm going to get for a while, right?
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Multiple different locations, more espionage, more flat out
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like gunfights in the open streets at post Merck War
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Spoiler At the end of Merck War, Chris Foley decides that I'm I'm
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going to stop trying to live this peaceful life.
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It's not for me. He had made arrangements with
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some politicians back home that they would decide to look the
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other way. And he becomes the full out
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vigilante that people call the demon of Pittsburgh essentially
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at this point. And I wanted to make Maplewood
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Hollow or what would eventually become Maplewood hollow, a
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little bit more grounded. And the stuff happening in
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Merkel also being like, welcome to the shit.
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This is a whole new era of Chris Foley where it's more violent.
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I I'm not holding back anymore. And I don't care if you're going
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to comment or like, like review bomb me about it.
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And and it's also setting up. He's going more vigilante.
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So it's going to be more men's adventure fiction, Mack Ball and
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Able team esque as well. Yeah, this one reminds me a lot
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of the Punisher of War Journal series from the 80s, which which
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the original end of the Punisher is fantastic and this definitely
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reminded me of of that so and I it.
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Was it was, it's definitely has what you you read.
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I'm not going to say the scene, but there's, it has one of the
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more violent interrogations that I write because I always try to
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especially I always try to have at least like 1 interrogation
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thing happen. And it says definitely one of
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the more violent stuff. And some of the people like like
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Maverick loved it, which I was like, I knew he would.
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I know you'd like it, but a lot of the people, like some of my
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family members read it and that that like that, that that was a
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discussion that had to be had after that.
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But yeah, I like it worked. It shocked the reader, so I'm
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happy with it. I this is bad because I, because
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I read it and I'm like, it did vaguely at all.
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I'm like that's, that's, that's interest, that's it, that's
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interesting. So, but like, you know, I, I
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wrote like 2 interrogation scenes in, in my book.
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So. And I, I think it was someone
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said that you and I are just going to try and outdo each
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other with with who can write the more gritty.
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Yeah, our buddy in the discord, Steven, I'm, I, I'm being a bad
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friend. I forget his last name, but he
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had just finished reading Steel City Vengeance and he, he texted
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me after he finished the interrogation scene and that and
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it was just all caps. Like, how do you think of that?
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That's all. I'm like, I'm, I'm doing what?
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I'm doing something right. Yeah, he did.
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He did the same. He did the same thing to me with
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the, with the cactus torture scene and it, you know, the
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night of the vigilante and I, I texted him back and I'm like,
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well, if you want the truth, I, I literally worked up like what
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the cartel does to torture people.
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And I just had Miller basically do everything that the cartels
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do to innocent people to, to them.
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And he's like, what is your search history look like?
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And I'm like. It's done.
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We're done. We're going to jail.
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So if it ever comes down to that, we're done.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you have, you have Maplewood
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Hollow and you have one of the best villains.
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I think, you know, in this, you know, Arc, you've done like as
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far as villains go, yeah, you're one of the best I think at
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writing, like really grounded villains instead of like over at
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the top, you know, bad guys, which can certainly be fun.
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But you know, I think grounded villains are really good, right
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too? Thank you, thank you.
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Because again, they're coming off a Merc war where we're
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talking about like Jason Millwater, who's like the
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closest to a Bond villain I'm ever going to get to Arthur
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Croft and this who like I hated having to write the scenes from
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his point of view because I'm just like I'm going to I want
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to, I wanted to kill him off so easily.
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So if I hated writing about it and you loved him as a villain,
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I hope everybody else agrees that he's a great villain.
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So. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
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So you have Merck Wars and then you you have other books that
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you're working on too. So what have you like developed
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a process for like mapping out the stories like long term or
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what is your technique for this one?
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I know like the major like right on Maplewood Hollow and is kind
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of the way I'm so I'm sorry, I'm stuttering.
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So right on Maplewood Hollow is one of my novellas and the way
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I'm going to be working my novellas from now on.
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There's still Canon, right with the rest of the Folly series.
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They're mentioned stuffs brought up, but they're going to be more
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like one shot kind of adventures just to like take up a little
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bit of your day. Not like my full my full
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installments of the series. So I have right now at least
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Radon Maplewood Hollow is the only novella that I have planned
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out. After that, it's just main
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installment. Main installment.
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I have the next, I would say, well, I showed you and I'm going
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to show later on. I have the next two already done
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and ready to go. And then I have a spin off full
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length following my Youngbloods characters and I have one more
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that I'm working on as well. That's, you know, that that's
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quite an interesting path, although I, you know, I can't
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say I'm any different. You know, we've got multiple
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books in in the series and I I'm really bad at, you know, mapping
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all I all I do is I keep just like a running note on my phone
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of, you know, kind of the timeline.
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Yeah, so. Like I know where I want this
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arc to like end up, but I just need to like get the books
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leading up to that. That's The thing is I like what
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where I wanted to end. I want to start writing that
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like right now. But like, I know I have to like
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build up to that because that's going to be a huge thing for the
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folly verse. So yeah, yeah.
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Well, Speaking of the folly verse though, you you also did
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something that I think was really impressive, which is you
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actually made a live action trailer for your book series.
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And I remember and I remember when you first came on the show,
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you said that you had a background and filmmaking a bit.
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So how do you feel like you're filmmaking skills have
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translated into your writing? So I'm going to be honest, my
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background in film is mostly just spending entire days in my
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high school's video production class with my boys.
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Like skipping as many classes as possible.
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Those guys are my brothers. They're BCU media.
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You can find them on Instagram. But they were the ones that
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brought it all together. They're the ones who I, I like
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loosely brought up one to do something feel like live action
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of folly. And then they took it and made
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it into the short trailer for Homecoming, my first book that's
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out now. All the credit goes to them.
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Mark Noah, Nate, the entire crew.
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Griffin, who played Chris Foley. I'm a terrible.
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I'm forgetting the name of the actress that played Rachel
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Mulker for that one scene, but she was fantastic.
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My background for that was just me being on set, trying to like
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talk to Griffin and get the right like like look for folly
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how he can move and stuff because I'm no, I'm I'm not I'm
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no like like tactical genius or anything, but I know, but I know
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how to handle a gun and none of the other people there really
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like knew how to do it. So like that was my thing to
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show him like the proper way to hold his props and everything,
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how to move with it. That's pretty much all I did
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there beside but everything else is all all my boys at BCU Media.
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Well, that's still more than you know, a lot of people in
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Hollywood seem to do. You know, you're, you're ahead
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of the back. Have you, have you ever like
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considered a, you know, possibly like writing out a screenplay or
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something and then getting any of your movies, getting any of
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your books adapted into like movies or shows or anything like
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that? Me and me and BCU have discussed
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it multiple times wanting to do more for Chris Foley because
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like they would want to do something like leading up to a
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release of a title. But I'm I'm a madman and I'm
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moving way too fast for that. So down the line down the we're
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we're it. Sorry, my Sutter is kicking in.
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The doors are open for more live action Chris Paul.
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Just right now, with all of our schedules going on right now,
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it's, it's difficult for us to all get together, get the entire
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crew back because we already decided that if we were to do
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another Chris Foley thing, the crew we had for the homecoming
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trailer was phenomenal. So we're going to try to get all
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of them back, maybe try to get Griffin back to come back and
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play Chris. But if that isn't the case,
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we'll find somebody else. It's all just a scheduling thing
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for us at this point. Has producing that trailer
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changed like your your writing process as far as like
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visualizing like how the characters look at all it, you
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know, in, in, Yeah, in the book, like for, for example, when I
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write, you know, John Ryder, like I'm, I'm picturing Scott
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Eastwood as John Ryder. Like that's who I, you know,
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choose. But then like, you know, Luke
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Goddich and I have talked and he, he and I have talked and he
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has a, you know, if I were to, if I were to come to him with
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like a John Ryder, he would be interested in playing that
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character. I've also kind of pictured him
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at times as John Ryder and then, you know, Richard Maverick, like
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as Jason Miller or some or something, you know, I guess how
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do you visualize characters when writing or anything?
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So whatever I'm writing about it all kind of just like it changes
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sometimes. Sometimes Chris Foley is Dylan
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O'Brien from American Assassin. Sometimes he's like, like I've
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been catching up on Yellowstone lately for Marshalls coming out
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tonight. So I see him for some reason as
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Luke Grimes for right now. But like whenever we were
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looking for, I had no really say in the casting for this trailer
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at all because we reached out to people work students at Point
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Park and they were interested in it.
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When I first saw the photo of Griffin, I was like, I don't
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want to say I was disappointed, but like, I wasn't like, OK,
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well, like we're getting down to the wire here.
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Let's see how he does. But whenever that guys came in
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on set and we started talking about with the bare minimum info
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about Chris Foley, he became him right then and there.
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Like he he would be off to the side between Cage reading
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Homecoming. Like, OK, got it.
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So sometimes when I'm writing now, I am seeing Griffin more as
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Chris Foley and the actress playing Rachel.
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But all the other characters, it kind of bleeds into it because I
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think I've talked to you about this before.
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Especially like my youngblood characters.
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Those are all based off my friends.
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Like Skip Chambers is my buddy Mark from BC.
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I picture my friends more because like those, that's my
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like my best experience from people that I'm writing.
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Like they're literally the characters so I'm using them.
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Yeah, that that's that's how he's cool.
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Which series do you, I don't, I don't want to say, do you enjoy
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writing one series more than the other, but like, do do you find
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that? Like did you find that you're,
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you're in a mood to write one series more than an than
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another? Or what's kind of your process
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for that? Yeah, so obviously like the main
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Chris Foley books is the heart and soul of this series, but I'm
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starting to plan out spin off novels focusing on the
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youngblood characters That's Skip Chambers, Jack Proto and
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Carly CC Carson, because I don't want to say the ideas I have for
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them don't work well for Chris and the Pittsburgh crew, but
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I've all I I still want to have them like leave the US and go do
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stuff. But a lot of times doesn't make
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sense since Chris is a Pittsburgh based vigilante.
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He's more right around there. The youngbloods are essentially
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mercenaries. They're hired guns.
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They can go wherever they want. So the so the I don't have one
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here to show you. I'm still writing it.
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The spin off youngblood novella I have planned out is going to
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be in a made I made-up a fictional country in West Africa
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and they're and they're going over there.
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So and I can't have Chris go leave Pittsburgh and go there
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right now at least. Yeah, I, yeah, it's, it's
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interesting that you say that you, you know, that you're, that
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you have like a made-up, you know, country and in Africa,
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because I, I've kind of, I have the same thing kind of planned
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for an Africa thing because I, I have, you know, my, my, my
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geography is, it's not bad, but it's like, I don't want to.
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I well, I mean, my mine is to the extent that like I, I
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generally know where things are, but I don't want to be one of
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those guys who writes like something in Africa and have A
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and have a reader be like, well, that's not actually accurate.
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And it's like, well, I'm only doing a Google Maps, you know?
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Yeah, yeah, thing. Yeah, but I love writing each
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series equally because especially where I'm at right
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now, a lot of this stuff is bleeding over because a lot of
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stuff is happening at the same time or like right after
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something else happened. So even though like going
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forward, like I'm, I'll text you a photo of it later, but I don't
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have a cover of it. Like the Youngblood books are
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going to be labeled like the Youngbloods.
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It's still part of the Chris Foley series.
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Yeah, Yeah. Well, well, that that's cool.
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Yeah. And that's kind of the same
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thing I have for, you know, the Jason Miller series where like
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Miller's Miller's in the John Ryder books and vice versa.
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But whenever, whenever you know, Jason Miller takes center sage
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and story, it's usually because John Ryder's busy in, in DC or
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something. And then, you know, usually
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Jason Miller's like in disposed in South America or, or yeah or
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something. Yeah, and it and it's fun for me
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to just explore different like topics in the world right now,
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different aspects of like criminal organizations or wars
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about having to uproot Chris Foley, who just went through
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hell in his last book and I'm throwing him into West Africa.
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Right. Yeah.
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Yeah. Yeah, it's certainly, you know,
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one of the things I kind of find ironic is I used to criticize
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like Marvel for, you know, doing like for having like Sony type,
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you know, different like spin offs and what not.
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And yet here I am kind of doing, doing the same thing.
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Yeah, I don't. I really don't have a problem
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with shared universes at all because and whenever I was on
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talking to our buddies Luke and Nathaniel on the Men's Adventure
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Fiction podcast, the topic of the night was like Mack Baldwin
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the executioner, right? And all those spin offs.
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Those guys were doing that much better than I think Marvel ever
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could do now. So Robin, you and I are
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following in the footsteps of those guys bit mixing our stuff
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together. So I really don't have a problem
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with that at all. Yeah.
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Well, and then and then I have my, I also have my cop series,
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which is like a which is in a completely different universe.
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And that's, that's interesting because like, you know, I'm
24:53
dealing with like more ground and like, you know, day-to-day,
24:57
you know, cop stuff. So which is, which is
25:02
interesting because I have, I have a lot of readers who are
25:06
either current or former cops. Same, same.
25:11
I have a lot of same, Yeah, same deal.
25:14
I have a lot of former current cops reading my stuff.
25:17
Guys who like me who are in the tactical stuff, but we're not in
25:21
any any position at all for we're just like prepared
25:24
civilians. So I'm always trying to like
25:26
please both of those groups at the same time.
25:29
Yeah. And then like as far as reading,
25:35
like do you read and met any authors like outside of the
25:40
indie? Yeah, spear these.
25:44
Yeah, I got the like a beside besides like your stuff, Zach's,
25:47
Luke's, all that stuff. I read.
25:49
Obviously I'm a Big Mac Bolin fan, so I read anything by Don
25:53
Hamilton or the people that he signed up for.
25:55
My basement bookshelf is filled with all of it.
25:59
I besides your thing, the most recent thing that I read was
26:02
Sandstorm Creed by BD Fleming, which, holy shit, this guy's
26:08
going places. This he's awesome.
26:10
It's got it's kind of like a faith-based action thriller in
26:15
in Africa too. So that that's the thing that's
26:18
going on. But then I just got in today, 10
26:22
year 4 by I think his last name's Bordeaux.
26:24
We've talked about that series before.
26:27
Yeah, yeah, I just finished reading.
26:33
Well, I just finished reading Eric Bishop's new novel Drexel,
26:37
which is pretty good. Now I'm currently, I'm currently
26:41
reading one of John le Carre's books, The Night Manager, which
26:47
is so far I like the series better, but like, also John le
26:56
Carre was British and so some of the yeah, some of the slaying,
27:01
some of the slaying and languaging.
27:02
It's it's definitely different than.
27:06
That it is generally that that's something with like the British
27:08
authors, especially somebody like him at the time, get into.
27:13
Yeah, but. Yeah, I, I, I like to.
27:15
A lot of the best stuff I've read has been indie, because we
27:20
don't have to worry about pleasing some publisher overlord
27:24
for it. Like, like I was talking to BD
27:26
Fleming before. I'm like, dude, this book's
27:28
going to have public big publishers shaking in its boots
27:32
if word reaches them. Yeah, well, and what's
27:36
interesting and too, is there a lot of traditional authors, or I
27:40
should say former traditional authors coming over to to the
27:45
indie space as well? You know, I, I don't know if you
27:50
saw my interview with Kyle Mills I did last year, but like I, I
27:54
was able to have him on the show and like I've, I've been a fan
27:58
of that guy, you know, since he took over the mid rap series and
28:02
he and he did a fantastic job. But I actually think that I like
28:08
his writing. You know, that he's done maybe
28:14
not, maybe not more than maybe not more, but just as much
28:19
because it's his voice. He's not trying to, you know,
28:23
write as Vince Flynn. Yeah, which I agree with that.
28:26
And that's what he should. That's what they should do,
28:28
especially with all these other people.
28:30
Like, I think Ryan Stack just picked up another like, contract
28:34
of another former dead author. And I hope he's doing the same
28:36
thing where he's not trying to like, mimic because it's an
28:40
American picking up, I think a British author.
28:42
So it is going to be different, you know.
28:44
Yeah, although let's see. Yeah, he picked up.
28:54
Like, is it Hawk? Is that the character's name?
28:56
Yeah, he picked, he picked up Ted Bells.
28:59
Yeah, and that's it. So the the interesting thing
29:02
about Ted Bell is because I've actually, I actually know Ryan
29:07
somewhat the interesting Ted Bell is Ted Bell is an American
29:11
or wasn't. An American.
29:12
I didn't know that I was looking out because at my job I see him
29:15
a lot. I look at the back and I see
29:16
like Lord Ted Bell, I was wrong. I'm mistaken.
29:18
Well. He he writes Lord Alex Hawk, who
29:23
is British. The, the other interesting thing
29:26
I was like is the the hot character is kind of like, is
29:33
basically like a modern day James Bond and he is, he is
29:39
British and the, the so as, as everyone in the discord knows,
29:44
like I'm a die hard Bond fan. And when, when Ryan first
29:52
started reading the the Hawk series, I don't think he'd read
29:56
like a Bond knowledgeable for and I was like, really, you've
30:00
never read like Casino Royale or anything.
30:04
So I don't know if he's like since picked up any of the
30:07
Fleming books, but I mean, I I definitely think he should.
30:13
So although he's got, he's got plenty to do now with his with
30:19
his own series. So which is good.
30:21
I love the Matthew Red Series A lot.
30:23
I think he just announced the the the fifth one coming out
30:28
soon, which I'll be there for it for sure.
30:30
Yeah. Yeah.
30:32
But yeah, like you said too, like we talked about this in the
30:34
past, but I just like the freedom that being indie gives
30:38
us because I doubt that this would be picked up for sure.
30:42
And it kind of falls down. Do you know who John Lovell is?
30:45
Yeah, or or. Wait, I I've heard the name.
30:49
I don't think I know much about him other than.
30:52
He does. He's the warrior poet society
30:54
guy on YouTube. Oh, I've I've heard of, I've
30:59
heard of him. So he the thing that the thing I
31:02
find hilarious is he wrote like a nonfiction, I think it's
31:05
called the the Warrior Poet Way, which is like a whole, like
31:08
becoming a man of faith and providing for your family.
31:10
And something he wrote, which was my favorite book of last
31:13
year, The Lions of Mercer, which is funnily enough, very similar
31:18
to this, but it's definitely on a specific island owned by a
31:23
specific billionaire politician. You know where I'm going with
31:25
this and nobody would pick it up.
31:29
And he was I was loving every second of it on his Instagram.
31:32
He was calling people out about how like I'm just going indie.
31:35
I'm doing this myself. And he did.
31:37
But so he went from being like a New York Times bestseller, if
31:39
that one to just be just same screw it, I'm doing it this way.
31:43
I want to tell my story. And he got it out indie that
31:45
way. So that's that was badass that
31:47
he did that. Yeah, it's, it's been, I'll tell
31:51
you, it's, it's been interesting do doing this like as and in the
31:56
author too, because like when I started, when I start, well,
32:01
when, when I started writing, like like actually writing, I
32:05
was still, I was still a kid. But when I started writing to
32:08
home, I was like, I had just gone out of college and I was, I
32:12
was talking at like, you know, possibly doing like, you know,
32:16
marketing or something like that.
32:18
And, you know, like I thought, and I thought my writing was
32:24
good, but like, realistically, I don't think a publisher would
32:27
have ever picked up any of my. Yeah, yeah, I, I feel that too.
32:33
Like I, I think I'm at the point now like if I were to ever like,
32:36
like get picked up, they would they would be like, OK, well, we
32:39
got to change a lot of everything here.
32:41
And I I wouldn't do that because the only ones I think that would
32:44
be good would be Homecoming and then probably Killing Evil
32:47
because at that time I was trying to mimic what was popular
32:51
in thriller genres then to the point now where I just don't
32:55
care. I'm doing whatever I want.
32:56
Yeah. I mean, I think, I mean, that's
33:01
that's the difficult thing too, is like from the marketing
33:04
perspective, you definitely want to write something that you
33:07
think people will definitely want to read.
33:11
But at the same time, like, you know, outside outside the box.
33:18
Yeah. Thinking I find is, you know,
33:20
it's great. Like when I started writing the
33:23
when I started writing the Jason Miller, you know, series like he
33:27
had, he had cameoed in one of the John Rider books.
33:32
Yeah. And he wanted to know more about
33:33
him. And I was thinking, well, like
33:35
I, you know, this character is going to be a one off and I'm
33:39
not going to do anything with them.
33:41
And I was surprised that like people, you know, even yourself
33:45
included, as you said, like people read the series now for
33:48
Miller, which is. Yep.
33:50
Yeah, but which I Which is great, but there would be no
33:53
shadows of deception of Outrider, right?
33:55
I still love reading about him. But right.
33:58
Keep Miller going, man. Right, and that and that's the
34:02
and that's the character that like I didn't that like I was
34:05
kind of like, well, I I'm not sure if people like this because
34:08
he's kind of like a Clint Eastwood, you know, man with no
34:11
name RIP off and he and he is, but I think that's also that's
34:15
why. That's the Yeah chapter where
34:18
you have him standing in the Oval Office of his poncho and
34:20
cowboy, he does not give a fuck. So he just, that's what I like
34:23
about him. Yeah, well, he, you know, he's,
34:26
he's a little bit, he's a little bit, you know, he's a little bit
34:29
like, I don't want to say he's crazy.
34:32
You know, a man who, you know, Yeah.
34:35
Watched his wife, you know, his pregnant wife die and then, you
34:38
know, gets brought back from the dead essentially.
34:42
You know, he may have, he may have a few screw, you know,
34:47
screws loose or something. I think that's why guys, guys
34:50
and guys who read our genre, they like a little bit of that
34:53
too. And you do a good job of like
34:55
now, obviously if people work with Miller, they're used to him
34:57
at this point. But every time they every time
34:59
he's around somebody else, they're like, oh, and I'm trying
35:01
to do that and I hope I'm succeeding just as well as
35:04
you're doing whenever like somebody like new meets Chris
35:07
Fall and they're like, this kid's insane.
35:09
Yeah, well, the the other thing too is like the man with no name
35:15
as a as a character, you know, the Clint Eastwood played like
35:20
he doesn't really have he doesn't really have a back, a
35:24
back story at all. It changes.
35:28
It changes from movie to movie. And that's partially why I
35:32
haven't. That's partially why I have
35:34
Miller go under different names in certain books too, is kind of
35:38
admonished that. But also because there was never
35:41
an origin story for the Man with No name, really, I kind of
35:44
wanted to give, you know, that character a background and, you
35:49
know, in the modern, yeah, setting.
35:52
Yeah, somewhat. So yeah.
35:54
I think, and I think you're succeeding, man.
35:55
Miller, like I keep telling you, keep them coming, man.
35:57
I'm here for it. Yeah, whereas like John Ryder,
36:02
he is an American James Bond. He's also kind of like a John.
36:07
He's also kind of like a John Wick character.
36:10
Yeah, I like that too, because like, while Bond can throw down,
36:13
he's definitely not John Wick. So I like how you mix the two
36:16
together. Yeah, well, it's, it's, you
36:20
know, it's, it's funny because John Wick, you know, by the time
36:25
people, you know, see him in the first movie, like he's not
36:28
really in his prime anymore. People like he's retired and
36:31
John Ryder being like 32 at this point.
36:36
Is. We're now actually 33 because
36:39
he's a year younger. He's a year older than I am.
36:42
Yeah. You know, canonically, yeah.
36:44
He's, he's kind of in his. He's kind of like what John Wick
36:48
would be in his prime, so. Yeah, yeah.
36:53
And like, and it's I think it's you have great characters, man,
36:57
and people obviously love reading the stuff, but Miller
37:00
bring more Miller. Roger, Roger that.
37:04
So I'm right now I'm trying to like find like how I can
37:08
incorporate like more, you know, like western brands and ends of
37:12
the book too, so that that's I'm not as big into product
37:17
placement as Jack cars, but I'm I'm starting to to get to get
37:22
there. I'm all I'm also learning more
37:24
about Texas than I initially thought.
37:26
I I would. Yeah, and that's something where
37:30
the whole product blur thing, like I'm trying to like limit
37:34
like the brands and stuff, but obviously they get the
37:36
character. Like Chris Foley uses the
37:39
Empress Tomahawk by Wingard Wearables, which if you need a
37:42
concealed carry tomahawk, folks, you got to go.
37:44
You got to get one. You're not an American unless
37:46
you're rocking a tomahawk in your pants.
37:48
Everything. But like if it matters for the
37:50
character, I'm going to highlight it.
37:51
But I'm trying. The only thing I really get in
37:53
deep with is just like whatever gear they're using sometimes
37:56
because I just love that shit. So I'm going to put it in my
37:59
books. Yeah, well, and I'm, and I'm
38:02
also like, I'm also partially a a car guy, which is funny
38:07
because I don't drive like, yeah, like obviously I had to
38:10
give, I had to give John Ryder like a, a 1967 Pontiac GTO
38:16
because why not? It's, it's basically the
38:19
American version in my mind of the of the Aston Martin DB5,
38:24
yeah. So you have you have that car
38:26
and they meanwhile, in my books, Kyle turned his dead mom's
38:29
minivan into essentially a tank. It's called the war van.
38:32
And they're driving around and then.
38:34
Yeah. Which which I, which I, which I
38:37
enjoy, yeah. That I mean that that's the
38:40
other thing is, you know, like just doing like little, you
38:46
know, X like, you know, minor product placements for stuff
38:50
like that too. For sure, yeah.
38:56
So what is next in your, you know, lineup for?
39:03
So Randall Maplewood Hollow is next.
39:05
I'm hopefully going to get it out this month.
39:07
I've I've had issues of KDP setting release dates to them
39:10
just either not doing that date or I closed my computer.
39:14
Then I get a text message saying I don't know your new book was
39:16
out. So I'm not I it's going to be
39:18
out this month. Keep an eye on my Instagram.
39:20
It's this is definitely going to be out.
39:22
But this month, honestly, I get some other feedback done.
39:24
So this is kicking off the new era.
39:26
This is going to be different, hopefully, but I have a new
39:29
stamp on there. If it doesn't have the stamp,
39:30
it's not real Chris Foley. But this is going to kick off
39:33
the next era of the vigilante arc is what I'm calling.
39:36
So Randall Maplewood Hollows first and then so spoiler again
39:41
if you read Merc war at the end. So this is technically what you
39:46
got to go to next after Merc War, because this is mentioned
39:49
at the end of Merc War, but then a name who has not been dropped
39:52
since the third book is is dropped at the end of Merc War.
39:56
And that's my character, Rachel Malt, who Steven again loves
40:00
because she she went through more hell than all my characters
40:03
combined in my series. And she vanished for a little
40:05
bit. Well, she's coming back in Bare
40:07
Knuckle, which is the next installment of Chris Foley.
40:11
And it's going to be a showdown for the ages because you can see
40:13
Chris and Rachel about the throwdown in an underground.
40:16
The fight ring and this is my huge homage to 80s and 90s
40:21
martial arts movies, underground boxing, this takes place up in
40:25
Toronto and this was a blast to write and bring Rachel back
40:29
after four or five books about her So this is where she's this
40:34
what she's been doing is she going to come back into the
40:37
fold? Is she going to kill Chris?
40:38
Is Chris going to kill her? Who knows what's going to
40:40
happen, right? So there's this and then after
40:44
that, the next installment, I'm a madman.
40:47
I'm an absolute madman is going to be false gospel, which this
40:51
is going to be like a definitely more of a closer to real
40:55
monster. Some horror vibes thrown in a
40:56
bit of cult action in there. This is this was a blast.
41:00
This is probably my favorite that I've done besides real
41:03
besides real monster right here. So holy shit, you've already
41:06
written all the all those two. Yeah, I'm insane.
41:12
Yeah, people, people the guy, people the guy write a ton.
41:15
Which I what I do. I write like I write every day,
41:20
I mean. Yeah.
41:21
You know. It's, it's, it's, it's a poor
41:25
sleep schedule. And also it's like, I'm not
41:28
saying I'm not trying to hype myself up here as being some
41:30
like genius where I can't sleep because the ideas are in my
41:32
head, but it's like I, I, I want to write it out for as long as I
41:37
can. That's the thing.
41:38
I mean, I've wanted, I have stories in my head.
41:41
No, I, no, I'm, I'm the same way.
41:44
I mean, as I wrote, you know, as I wrote in my blog, you know, on
41:49
my sub stack, sadly, nobody reads.
41:53
I I like sub stack is the one social media that like I I can't
41:58
for some reason like ever get traction.
42:01
Given. Up and I, I don't know why, but
42:03
like so my articles on on X do well and like on Facebook, they
42:09
do OK, but yeah, as I, as I basically ran in like my author
42:12
blog it like yeah, I think like writing American Inferno was,
42:17
was cathartic, you know to deal with, you know, the
42:20
assassination of Charlie Kirk. But yeah, like you, I, I
42:24
basically I'm an insomniac that just writes all the time you're
42:29
talking. About cathartic so a big a big
42:31
theme in bare knuckle not not exploring anything is bringing
42:36
old friends that you've cut ties with for whatever reason back
42:40
into the fold. And as I was writing this, me
42:42
and one of my good buddies who we had a falling out a couple
42:45
years ago, we ended up looking back up together talking to
42:49
things are just like how it used to do it for whatever happened
42:51
happened. And that was very cathartic for
42:53
me for sure. So writing can definitely help
42:56
you through a lot of shit. Yeah.
42:58
Oh yeah, it definitely does, you know, for me.
43:02
And then you know, what's what's been really cool about
43:05
podcasting too, is like, I interviewed so many authors now
43:09
and just like fascinating people in general that almost every
43:14
guest I have, with the exception of of a few people like give me
43:19
ideas for like other stories as they like by them saying
43:23
anything directly about that. But just like our conversations
43:26
inspire, you know, more plots and whatnot, which I I think is
43:32
insanely cool. So.
43:34
Yeah, and I'm really excited what these next three are going
43:38
to do for the the Chris Foley series.
43:40
As you saw, the covers are getting more.
43:42
Yeah, yeah, I know I'm going to catch smack for it.
43:44
They are AI based but. I.
43:49
Don't I know? Yeah, I'm talking about
43:50
everybody else. Everybody else, but especially
43:54
false gospel. I am extremely happy with how
43:56
this one turned out. Not just how the covers, but
43:59
just the story and the action involved in it as well.
44:02
Yeah, well, that's actually something I want to talk to you
44:04
about too. So how has your experience been
44:07
using like, you know, ChatGPT or I guess, I guess Dolly or
44:13
whatever they're calling that the image generator?
44:17
If AI ever become sentient, they're coming after me first
44:20
cuz I treat that thing like a slave.
44:21
If it doesn't like what it is, I just start I just start cussing
44:24
it out and then it fixes it. It gets it right because like
44:27
getting, getting this took multiple tries, multiple tries
44:32
to get it right because they kept they weren't like I would
44:34
give out perfect page descriptions of the characters
44:38
and everything and it just wouldn't be it.
44:40
I had the gaslighted into thinking we were in the 70s to
44:43
get like guns on the page for some reason.
44:45
Yeah, if these things ever like go full Terminator, I'm done.
44:49
I'm not going after me first. I treat this thing like it's a
44:52
slave. Well, now that what's what's
44:54
funny is is my ChatGPT is probably going to be fighting
44:59
other chat GPTS. But like I I have mine super
45:03
based at this at this point. I'm starting to see the light
45:07
and get based too because you know how like the hell like it
45:09
talks to you changes. It's starting to like get more
45:11
like I'm talking it but the moment it insults me I'm so I'm
45:14
just back to it man. Mine, mine thinks it's like mine
45:20
thinks it's like a writing assistant, which it essentially
45:23
is. It's like, it's like an edit.
45:25
It's like an editor. And that I mean, and that's,
45:27
that's the other thing too, is like the way you and I use AI.
45:31
Well, I don't want to speak for you, but the way I use AI, like
45:34
from writing, it's not like I'm only these people that like,
45:39
uses it to like create a swab. I, I have my first drafts, which
45:42
are usually like a mess. And then I, you know, put like
45:46
various chapters and scenes in there to like rework and Polish
45:50
and, and clean and clean it up a bit.
45:54
So. Yeah, I use it mostly just for
45:58
my covers because I'm able to like get scenes from my books
46:03
made about having to schedule photo shoot, which down the line
46:07
I might go back to how my first couple were where it was people
46:11
on the cover. But but again, it's a schedule
46:14
thing and I'm cracking these these fuckers out so fast that I
46:18
just want to get it done. But I don't let it near anywhere
46:22
near my manuscript. I I write it and it is and it is
46:26
edited by either I go through it myself or I pay my one friend in
46:30
beer. She's a legal secretary.
46:32
She usually looks through it sometimes, but but I also use
46:37
it. I I had it help create help me
46:40
figure out how the fake African country for the young blood spin
46:43
off coming up. If I have a question about like
46:46
a certain bullet trajectory, it gives me easier to understand
46:50
stuff than Google does. So I help it if that I don't
46:52
want it near anything near what I'm writing because I don't want
46:54
it to change anything. Yeah, the what?
46:56
Well, the one that's on, the one that's on my, the one that I use
46:59
for manuscripts is also like a local instance.
47:03
So it's on my computer. So which you know, is helpful
47:11
too. So also, though you know, it, it
47:15
made this background that's behind me because I can't, I
47:20
can't afford to, you know, pay graphics guys either.
47:24
That's another thing too, like, like, I don't want to have to
47:27
like lay down a lot of money to an artist and then get something
47:31
I don't like and then have to pay again.
47:33
You know what I mean? How many times have you and I
47:36
talked to authors and they've said that exact same thing has
47:38
happened, but it's it's just, it's just, it's easy.
47:43
Yeah, and. There's people going to be out
47:45
there going, oh, you're not supporting artists?
47:47
I'm like, yeah, mod. But I'm it's it fits my needs as
47:51
an author personally. Well, I I do support like
47:55
authors. I mean artists like.
47:58
Yeah, of course I have author. I have artist friends too.
48:01
Like I support all my friends who do that stuff too.
48:04
But again, it's like it's it's a money thing on my end and it's
48:07
also a schedule thing and getting photo shoots set up.
48:10
Yeah, well, and then, well, and then also like, you know, some
48:13
of them, some of them want like royalty cuts and like, yeah, I,
48:18
you know, they're, they're you don't make much on books, you
48:22
know, as is. And you know, it's difficult to
48:26
do that. But like, yeah, I have I
48:28
paintings and whatnot that, you know, my artist friends have
48:32
like I, I buy, I buy art, you know, personally for me usually
48:37
so. Yeah, and like, and my friends
48:40
so like do the projects, I support them 110%, but you know,
48:44
I'm not going to like if it's somebody I don't know, I'm not
48:47
going to give them money, you know what I mean?
48:48
I'm. Not going to like, right?
48:50
Yeah. Yeah, well, and then you know,
48:53
like, you know, so, so I originally what, you know what
48:58
to be like a technical right for business.
49:00
But what's funny now is like I'm using all my, you know, editing
49:03
skills like edit my own books and what not, which is, which is
49:08
hard. It's it's hard to edit your own
49:10
writing once you've you know, once you've like, you know, read
49:15
like 5000 times. Yeah, but.
49:17
Yeah. You know that that's why I
49:19
shift. That's why I have like 3 books
49:21
at a time so I can shift, you know?
49:24
Speaking using, Speaking of editing.
49:26
So this I like remember I told you, I finally have a plan.
49:29
I'm not winging it anymore. I finally have a layout to how
49:33
I'm writing it. And this is going to sound
49:34
insane, some people. So I have one tab for the draft,
49:39
and then I have a tab for the ebook and a tab for the
49:42
paperback. It's all formatted how it is.
49:44
And as I'm writing the draft, if I like it, that's a chapter.
49:47
I'm putting it in where it is and then I go through it, edit
49:52
it to the. I'd go through it once in the on
49:55
the ebook change I want to change, then I edit it over to
49:58
the paperback. It's insane, but it works for
50:01
me. Yeah, that, yeah, that's kind.
50:04
That's basically how I do things, how I do things too.
50:10
Although the although there's also not enough coffee in the
50:13
world, you know when when writing.
50:18
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, there's not enough coffee,
50:20
not enough C4 energy drinks or bang anyway, so.
50:23
And and then unfortunately I can't smoke in the house either.
50:27
So otherwise, otherwise, otherwise I would I would get a
50:34
pipe Nathaniel Hummel, but I don't have the.
50:37
Yeah, I don't. I don't have a cool barn of a
50:39
scar age behind me where I can where I can smoke my pipe and
50:44
look Uber based while I'm doing. It if I had, if I had a if I had
50:47
a barn, I would, I would set up a podcast studio in there and
50:52
just like never, I would basically live in that thing
50:56
basically if I could. Yeah, if I if I had a writing
50:59
born dude, I'd be in there. I wouldn't leave.
51:02
Yeah, I just, you know, someone needs to pick up Shadows of
51:07
Deception as as ATV series someone then, you know, give me
51:13
give me money so I can, you know, build like a build like a
51:17
studio in my backyard. And then just.
51:19
Never take. It and then I'll I'll take a
51:22
million and give some to, you know, Jake and also to Eric
51:27
Bishop so they can both, you know, finance their their movies
51:31
as well so. Yeah, somebody needs to just
51:34
realize the potential in the Men's Adventure Fiction Discord
51:37
while Discord is still running. And yeah, and pick a lot of us
51:43
up, but I don't want to get into that, you know, my opinion on
51:47
that whole face scanning shit, I'm not doing it, but.
51:50
Yeah. Yeah, it is.
51:52
It is an interesting premise for a book that I have, you know,
51:57
plan, Plan. Yeah.
51:59
Yeah, we'll see. Anyway, well, dude, you know,
52:05
you're killing it and always happy to have you on the show
52:11
and chat with you always. If you weren't already, you
52:16
know, extremely busy, which I know you are.
52:20
I would suggest that, you know, you should do a podcast
52:23
yourself. But yeah, I know that, you know,
52:26
everyone's got things to do so. Yeah, yeah, everything ever.
52:30
It's it's a slam, not only if my job right now, but with all my
52:34
other stuff, my writing, my other, my poor excuse for social
52:37
life. And that's been busy,
52:38
surprisingly. But yeah, man, if I had the, if
52:41
I had the time, man, I'd be making podcasts.
52:43
I'd be making Folly films left and right.
52:45
Well, I'm just going to stick with the books for now on.
52:47
What what's what's what's a social life?
52:50
I'm I'm a full time author. I don't.
52:53
I don't know. What the fuck is that?
52:55
Yeah, it's a rare yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
52:59
But I'm always happy to come on here and talk shop with you,
53:01
man. Always happy to have you on and
53:05
you know when, when you've got the other two books, I, I'd love
53:08
to have you back to talk about those as well.
53:11
So. You'll be getting this in the
53:12
mail soon too, by the way. I I can't wait Yeah, to have to
53:17
have your books, you know, to have to have your book and then
53:22
hopefully I'm getting Dawson's book soon because that looks
53:26
pretty good. And you know, I I'm I'm a little
53:31
bummed out that you know, double O 7 first like got postponed,
53:35
but hopefully, hopefully I'll have a few books to read in
53:40
between now and May when it comes out.
53:42
So. Yeah, and congratulations on
53:46
coming up with American Inferno. I tell you this every time that
53:50
I read your stuff, it you get your especially your action
53:53
scenes. They get better and better each
53:55
time. Well, I, I appreciate it.
53:58
I appreciate it, man. And yeah, I, I, I would, I would
54:01
say the same for your, for your villains.
54:04
So I, you know, they get, they get better each time and you
54:11
know, you're, you're killing it. So thank you.
54:14
Thank you. I appreciate that and appreciate
54:16
the support you always give me too.
54:19
Like I said, there is no set release date for rate on
54:22
Maplewood Hollow, but I just want to take a little bit at the
54:26
end to I do this all the time because I know my mom and dad
54:29
are going to share this link on their Facebooks, right?
54:31
This is not going to be for everybody.
54:34
You know that as well as everybody else who's Reddit
54:36
does. Yeah, yeah.
54:39
So it it's definitely more violent than my other stuff and
54:43
that's saying a lot. But again, this is not going to
54:45
be for everybody. If you buy it and give it to
54:48
your like 15 year old kid and he's just freaking out, it's not
54:51
my fault. Yeah, no, that, that that's kind
54:55
of that's kind of the the same thing.
54:59
I mean, I even wrote, you know, Ivan, Ivan wrote in the
55:02
introduction of American Inferno.
55:04
If this book makes you uncomfortable, it it's meant to.
55:07
Yeah, it's meant. It's meant to be.
55:08
Yeah. Like, like I touched on human
55:10
trafficking and killing evil. This is expanding on that.
55:14
Human trafficking is, is real. It's evil.
55:17
Our our elected leaders are probably involved in it.
55:20
That being said, I am not suicidal whatsoever.
55:22
I just want to let that be known as well.
55:24
But but yeah, it's not meant to be a fun read.
55:30
It's meant to be these evil bastards are getting what's
55:32
coming to them, which is not. Looks like it's not going to
55:35
happen in real life. Did you do much research into
55:40
human trafficking? Like really, what was that?
55:44
So the biggest thing is, is what really kicked off writing this
55:48
was, I think I'm forgetting where it was now, but I think it
55:52
was. I have it in my in my
55:55
introduction. Give me a second.
55:59
Yeah. So it was in Vermont in the
56:00
September 2024, right. So there was a map camp, which
56:05
I'm not even going to say what that is.
56:07
That's what these that's what these fuckers want to be called
56:08
now instead of sentient wood chipper food.
56:11
But they they set up this whole this whole summer camp thing for
56:16
them and they're like, oh, there's going to be no kids.
56:18
They're just going to be a safe place for us to hang out in the
56:20
fucking government. Basically.
56:22
They, I think they ended up like kind of being like, you can't do
56:25
it. But they agreed to have these
56:27
people set this up so camps like Maplewood Hollow exist.
56:32
There's islands that exist about it.
56:33
It's not meant to be sugar coated.
56:37
Yeah. Well, yeah, I mean, doing
56:39
research on that type of thing, Yeah, I mean.
56:43
It's bad. It's it's really bad.
56:47
I usually don't have to walk away from research, but I had to
56:49
do it a lot for this one. Yeah, I mean, you know, you
56:57
know, research for, well, I mean, really there.
57:00
I didn't really have to do much research for American Inferno
57:03
because like, I was kind of like in the middle.
57:07
It's happening. Of it all.
57:10
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's, you know that
57:14
that's the that's the other thing.
57:17
But yeah, I mean, I, I really have.
57:20
I also have to commend you. I don't know if you did this
57:23
intentionally, but like also, I mean, you know, this is a really
57:28
tight, you know, 100 pages or. So I think it's like a little
57:34
bit over 100 pages, which is what I was aiming for.
57:37
Cuz just to just to annoy you, I don't put page numbers in my
57:42
stuff. I've, I've noticed that and you
57:45
know, as I, as I've said before, you know, Atticus is 100 in like
57:52
it's not even $150.00. It's, it's like 147.
57:57
I wish they would give authors promo codes like they used to
58:00
because I I, I wish I could give you one for a discount, but
58:05
like, yeah, I would. Yeah, I'm working on it.
58:09
It's, but yeah, like to do, to do a book like this in under 100
58:14
pages, like, I don't know, because you could, you could
58:17
write like 3 novels on this subject if you wanted.
58:22
But to do to do in such a tight, you know, format is impressive.
58:27
Yeah. Thank you, thank you.
58:29
I appreciate it. It was definitely, I definitely
58:31
did have to shorten it a little bit to make it where it is now
58:35
because I would just get carried away and keep writing stuff.
58:38
But I'm happy with how it turned out.
58:40
I like I told you, I don't think it's definitely like my best
58:44
work, but I felt like it's something that had to be told in
58:47
written in a time like this, but.
58:49
Yeah, the way I would put it, and I should have put this in
58:53
the border, but it's a nice breather, which is which is
58:57
weird for me to say that a book this heavy is is a breather.
59:01
But this is a nice like I guess kind of intermission between.
59:07
Before you get into the rest. Of the wars and what you have
59:11
planned neck. Yeah.
59:12
So yeah, I definitely encourage people to check this out when it
59:16
comes out and which hopefully we can announce that soon.
59:22
But in the meantime, Mr. Widmer, thanks for coming on and real
59:28
appreciate you. And also for for being the one
59:33
person I can text Dale and being like, hey, do you think this is
59:37
going too far? And you're like, no, no, but.
59:42
But yeah, thanks for having me, man.
59:43
It's it's always a blast. Yeah, so anyway, everyone go
59:48
check out Jake Widmer's work. I'll have his Amazon page linked
59:53
and then also at Jake Widmer, author on Instagram.
59:58
And are you on Twitter or? I have a Twitter account and a
1:00:04
Facebook account. I don't use them my Twitter.
1:00:07
I just have Twitter because I like scrolling through all the
1:00:08
funny shit on there. Facebook is literally just
1:00:11
getting to the point to just let my parents, friends know my
1:00:14
books are out. I don't do anything on that.
1:00:15
Instagram is where I'm at all the time.
1:00:18
Yeah, same. Same thing.
1:00:20
I mean, Facebook is pretty much like where I keep in contact
1:00:25
with like relatives and people who I went to high school with.
1:00:30
Who I wouldn't have contact with otherwise, but like, other than
1:00:34
that, like, yeah, I don't even promote stuff on there.
1:00:39
Yeah, very much anymore. So.
1:00:41
But yeah, anyway, yeah, like I said, folks, go and check out
1:00:45
Jake's books. Real pretty shit.
1:00:48
You coming on. And folks, we really appreciate
1:00:51
you listening. I'll be back Wednesday night for
1:00:55
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1:00:59
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