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- 0:00Speaker 1: We got Ashley, we got Bucky, we got Chuck with
- 0:02Speaker 1: you and of course at nine o'clock on Fridays, it's
- 0:05Speaker 1: our QB. One time for x's and o's with you, Millan,
- 0:08Speaker 1: brought to you by Frost Brood Corps.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Like jews chill, Good morning, Hugh, Good morning.
- 0:13Speaker 3: How are you.
- 0:13Speaker 2: We're doing great. We're doing great. A lot of stuff
- 0:15Speaker 2: to get to.
- 0:16Speaker 1: I do have to get your opinion, though, as somebody
- 0:19Speaker 1: that as a former you dubbed quarterback, what are your
- 0:24Speaker 1: thoughts on the current again you dub quarterback? This entire
- 0:28Speaker 1: demand Williams junior situation this week.
- 0:31Speaker 3: Well, I'll just sare with you, might take the and
- 0:35Speaker 3: a couple things that on a relative scale probably didn't
- 0:40Speaker 3: bother me as much. Number one, the issue of him
- 0:47Speaker 3: signing on a Friday, January second, and then with the
- 0:50Speaker 3: Washington and then and then pulling out and announcing his
- 0:54Speaker 3: entry into the portal, well, certainly I was disappointed, angry.
- 0:59Speaker 3: I don't think think that college football players and coaches
- 1:03Speaker 3: are doing a lot of the same things you know
- 1:06Speaker 3: you see with Lane Kiffin. I don't think they're uniquely greedy.
- 1:10Speaker 3: I think that it in some ways this is a
- 1:13Speaker 3: window into our humanity, our dna. Jesus had more parables
- 1:20Speaker 3: in the in the Bible about money and greed than
- 1:23Speaker 3: he did about lover or any other topic. The Latin
- 1:26Speaker 3: and the Greek philosophers talked about greed. Shakespeare wrote about
- 1:30Speaker 3: greed like, I think that this is part of it.
- 1:32Speaker 3: And I think a lot of people who have have
- 1:35Speaker 3: been critical of demand what he did, if they, in
- 1:40Speaker 3: their own lives had an opportunity there was a loophole
- 1:43Speaker 3: in some contract, they they could get out and benefit
- 1:47Speaker 3: to the tune of two million dollars or more, whether
- 1:50Speaker 3: it's you're selling a house or whatever, contract if you
- 1:53Speaker 3: could get out of it. And wait a minute, if
- 1:56Speaker 3: you if you get out of this contract, which there's
- 1:59Speaker 3: a loophole that you can, it'll you'll make you'll pocket
- 2:03Speaker 3: an extra two million. I think a lot of people
- 2:05Speaker 3: would do that. Now, a lot of people wouldn't. There's
- 2:08Speaker 3: been honorable men and women throughout history, and they are
- 2:11Speaker 3: to be lauded. But I do think that and a
- 2:15Speaker 3: lot of people who would not at forty they would
- 2:18Speaker 3: have at nineteen. So that that's a thought there. The
- 2:23Speaker 3: mia Hammont A portion of this is very unfortunate. I
- 2:29Speaker 3: got to use my words carefully. It was very unfortunate.
- 2:33Speaker 3: I try to imagine if I was Mia Hammett's father.
- 2:38Speaker 3: Do I think that Demon Williams purposely did it at
- 2:43Speaker 3: that time?
- 2:43Speaker 2: No, I don't.
- 2:44Speaker 3: I think that that that announcement that he was going
- 2:47Speaker 3: into the portal was probably written by somebody else, and
- 2:52Speaker 3: it was probably there they were going to exercise that.
- 2:56Speaker 3: And then when when the national media got a hold
- 3:00Speaker 3: of it, I think Pete Dammel and others were reporting
- 3:03Speaker 3: these going in the in the portal, I think probably
- 3:05Speaker 3: somebody just said, well, let's just put this announcement out.
- 3:09Speaker 3: So I think there's a little bit of grace in
- 3:13Speaker 3: my own mind for that, because I don't think it
- 3:15Speaker 3: was evil or VINDICTI you know, certainly it was an oversight,
- 3:21Speaker 3: it was insensitive and all of that, But again I
- 3:24Speaker 3: don't think that he was just that calculatedly cold. The
- 3:28Speaker 3: part that bothers me right now the most is that
- 3:33Speaker 3: we can infer, based on a set of facts, what
- 3:38Speaker 3: transpired when when Demon Williams put his name in the
- 3:43Speaker 3: portal there was a part that said do not contact.
- 3:46Speaker 3: Now you think about it, if there's guys goes in
- 3:48Speaker 3: portalle different reasons, and you say, well, I want to
- 3:51Speaker 3: go in the portal for the highest bidder. You're not
- 3:54Speaker 3: going to say do not do not contact. If you
- 3:58Speaker 3: put do not contact is because you've already got it
- 4:01Speaker 3: lined up right. And and I find entirely credible the
- 4:07Speaker 3: the uh the sources that say that it was LSU.
- 4:11Speaker 4: Here.
- 4:11Speaker 3: Demon Williams had committed to Lane Kiffin at Ole mist
- 4:15Speaker 3: out of high school, but he's an Arizona kid. He
- 4:17Speaker 3: flipped to Jed Fish. You look at all the problems
- 4:22Speaker 3: that that LSU has had. I think what happened is
- 4:25Speaker 3: that Ellen, once Washington threatened to sue, LSU has had
- 4:29Speaker 3: a barrage of you know, there's all these controversies with
- 4:34Speaker 3: with Lane Kiffin. There was controversies about Scott Wood where
- 4:37Speaker 3: the the uh the athletic director and the governor's getting
- 4:41Speaker 3: involved and and uh so, and you know, tampering. There's
- 4:45Speaker 3: clear evidence of tampering in my mind with respect to
- 4:48Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin and to Demon Williams. I think that's where
- 4:52Speaker 3: he was going. And then when there was a threat
- 4:56Speaker 3: of the suit, I think that LSU said, hey, we're
- 4:59Speaker 3: not for us to get you we'd have to pay
- 5:02Speaker 3: Washington four million, and then you six million. That means
- 5:06Speaker 3: you're a ten million dollar quarterback. The juice ain't worth
- 5:09Speaker 3: the squeeze. And that's what everybody else thought. And so
- 5:13Speaker 3: Demon Williams, he didn't have some kind of of like
- 5:17Speaker 3: epiphany like, oh I missed my my, my teammates. You know,
- 5:21Speaker 3: I'm really a husky. What did I do all of this?
- 5:24Speaker 3: Like some people do that when they break up with
- 5:26Speaker 3: their girlfriend, right, Oh my god, you know what a mistake.
- 5:29Speaker 3: He didn't have that. I don't think any of the
- 5:31Speaker 3: evidence points to that. The evidence points that Washington was
- 5:34Speaker 3: the only place he could go. And so now he
- 5:37Speaker 3: he puts his tail between his legs and he comes
- 5:40Speaker 3: back to Washington. And I think it's an enormous fracture
- 5:48Speaker 3: of the locker room, the the the fan base and
- 5:50Speaker 3: what have you. And so so they're gonna, you're gonna
- 5:54Speaker 3: hear Jetfish say oh, everything's fine, the players are fine,
- 5:59Speaker 3: and you know, and and they're gonna try and piss
- 6:03Speaker 3: on us and.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Tell us it's raining. And I'm not gonna buy any
- 6:06Speaker 2: of that.
- 6:07Speaker 3: And so, yeah, I got a really bad taste in
- 6:10Speaker 3: my mind, in my mouth, more so for the circumstance
- 6:15Speaker 3: why he's returning as I just described.
- 6:18Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there's well put, I'm gonna ask you,
- 6:23Speaker 5: how can he come back and rejuvenate what was in
- 6:28Speaker 5: the locker room? I mean you, because I'm with you.
- 6:31Speaker 5: I don't think that anybody in that locker room. While
- 6:33Speaker 5: a lot of them might be understanding that, hey, if
- 6:35Speaker 5: you were getting more money, go get your bag, as
- 6:37Speaker 5: they say, I don't think anybody's gonna fault him for that.
- 6:40Speaker 5: But on the flip side, you basically said I don't
- 6:43Speaker 5: want to be here. I'd rather be somewhere else. And
- 6:46Speaker 5: now you're back here, whether you like it or not,
- 6:48Speaker 5: because finance has said so.
- 6:49Speaker 3: I think it's a big problem. And I always you know,
- 6:52Speaker 3: this is my twenty eighth year on KJO. I've been
- 6:54Speaker 3: asked many times, Hey, what do the players think about this?
- 6:57Speaker 3: And I always preface I say, Look, you've got on
- 7:01Speaker 3: a football team, uh in in a league, and what
- 7:03Speaker 3: have you you got? You got, you know, guys from Washington, California.
- 7:08Speaker 3: You got rich guys, poor guys, black guys, white guys,
- 7:12Speaker 3: young guys. Will got like Democrats, Republicans, you know, Christians, Atheists,
- 7:16Speaker 3: we got all different kind of personalities. I'm not speaking
- 7:20Speaker 3: for you know, people asking but what did you got
- 7:21Speaker 3: your eighty four team? I'm not speaking for my eighty
- 7:23Speaker 3: four teammates. But what I can do is I can
- 7:29Speaker 3: speak to my sense of my teammates. Now that might
- 7:33Speaker 3: be a semantic kind of detail, but it's important for
- 7:38Speaker 3: me to say that. So if I'm going to talk
- 7:42Speaker 3: about what the players, here's my sense, and I'm certain
- 7:46Speaker 3: of this in my own mind. There's gonna be one
- 7:48Speaker 3: of three players on that hustle. You've got over one
- 7:51Speaker 3: hundred guys. There's gonna be guys are gonna end up
- 7:54Speaker 3: in one of three categories. There's gonna be a category
- 7:57Speaker 3: of players that are relatively supportive of demand, like hey,
- 8:02Speaker 3: no big deal, that's the the nil world we live in.
- 8:05Speaker 3: I don't know what the percentages of the team, but
- 8:09Speaker 3: I'm certain one or more of those are gonna be
- 8:11Speaker 3: relatively supportive demon There's gonna be a portion of them, again,
- 8:16Speaker 3: this is my sense, that will be relatively indifferent, like hey,
- 8:19Speaker 3: I'm worried about me whatever. And there's gonna be a
- 8:23Speaker 3: portion of that locker room that is bitter and resentful
- 8:27Speaker 3: of of what he did, how he came back, and
- 8:31Speaker 3: they're not gonna say it on on the uh on
- 8:35Speaker 3: on the on the record. You're gonna have the head
- 8:38Speaker 3: coach insisting to us that it's not a problem. You're
- 8:41Speaker 3: gonna get two or three or four uh players that
- 8:44Speaker 3: are going willing to go on the record to say, hey,
- 8:46Speaker 3: no big deal, we love demand and that may or
- 8:49Speaker 3: may not be true. Let's just uh uh grant that
- 8:53Speaker 3: it is true for those players. But the dozens and
- 8:57Speaker 3: scores of players who are not okay with this, they
- 9:00Speaker 3: are not gonna go on the record. And so all uh,
- 9:02Speaker 3: you know, there's gonna be a large faction of fans.
- 9:05Speaker 3: They're gonna say, see, it's okay. The coach says it's okay.
- 9:08Speaker 3: There's three player teammates who just said it's no, it's
- 9:11Speaker 3: not okay. There's a good and what you have is
- 9:14Speaker 3: a divided, splintered locker room. And and so now the
- 9:20Speaker 3: core of of of of the unity has been fractured
- 9:24Speaker 3: on this team, and they they go next next next year.
- 9:29Speaker 3: I don't know when it's gonna happen. I don't know
- 9:31Speaker 3: if it's against Penn State or or whether it's against
- 9:35Speaker 3: Indiana or or whomever, uh, you know, could be Iowa, whatever, Oregon.
- 9:40Speaker 3: At some point that team is gonna face adversity. They're
- 9:44Speaker 3: gonna be down ten points in the third quarter, and
- 9:47Speaker 3: they and the the fabric of their uni will not
- 9:51Speaker 3: be able to carry them through. And you can trace
- 9:54Speaker 3: it back to this. That's my take on this, Bak
- 9:57Speaker 3: and so I think he has divided that locker room.
- 10:00Speaker 3: I think that he has created a situation at home.
- 10:04Speaker 3: He's gonna hear we got a divided fan base. He's
- 10:06Speaker 3: gonna hear booze. Those booze are are not the environment
- 10:10Speaker 3: that that is ideal for thriving on the offense. You know,
- 10:14Speaker 3: oh man, we went three and out boo You know
- 10:17Speaker 3: like that that that makes things harder on the team.
- 10:21Speaker 3: So so I think in many ways this this is
- 10:24Speaker 3: going to have a reverberating effect.
- 10:28Speaker 1: Should Fish and Chun welcomed him back, should they have
- 10:32Speaker 1: done something different in that situation?
- 10:34Speaker 3: In your opinion, I think that there there's a little
- 10:41Speaker 3: bit of it of sell your soul to the devilish
- 10:45Speaker 3: nature of this. For me, I think that he would
- 10:49Speaker 3: in the long run, Fish would have garnered more respect
- 10:54Speaker 3: had he said Nope, not coming back. Nope, that because
- 10:59Speaker 3: because that lais the foundation. When I was with the
- 11:02Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys and there was a a linebacker named Mike
- 11:07Speaker 3: Roper who fell asleep in a starting linebacker fell asleep
- 11:11Speaker 3: in a in a special teams me got cut, got
- 11:15Speaker 3: just cut him, and that had a reverberation for years there.
- 11:21Speaker 3: Everson Walls had been the best corner on the Dallas
- 11:25Speaker 3: Cowboys when Jimmy Johnson got there. Jimmy Johnson was around
- 11:28Speaker 3: the corner and Emerson Walls was getting Everson Walls getting
- 11:31Speaker 3: his ankles taped, and he was grousing about a mini
- 11:34Speaker 3: camp practice. Jimmy overheard it and he went in, looked
- 11:40Speaker 3: at him, and then walked up in his office and
- 11:42Speaker 3: cut him. Their best player, they were one in fifteen.
- 11:44Speaker 3: Cut their best player. That had a reverberating effect when
- 11:49Speaker 3: a leader takes a leadership stance and so, but I
- 11:55Speaker 3: don't expect Jedfish to do that because I don't know.
- 11:57Speaker 2: I don't.
- 11:58Speaker 3: I think Jedfish wanted the he wanted the Florida job,
- 12:01Speaker 3: he wanted the Michigan job. I think he wants one
- 12:04Speaker 3: of these eight NFL jobs. I don't think he's long
- 12:06Speaker 3: for the job, so it doesn't surprise me that he
- 12:08Speaker 3: would bring him back. I understand there's a fair point, like, hey,
- 12:11Speaker 3: Demant Williams is a talented quarterback. You know he's gonna
- 12:14Speaker 3: have to solve his issue about how he plays against
- 12:17Speaker 3: the bottom twenty out of sixty seven Power four. The
- 12:21Speaker 3: five wins that he had, they were all against bottom
- 12:24Speaker 3: twenty and then the top twenty five. That's where the
- 12:29Speaker 3: losses was and he was borderline off in those games.
- 12:31Speaker 3: So he has a quarterback is going to have to
- 12:33Speaker 3: settle that issue. But you asked me about whether he
- 12:37Speaker 3: would have take him back. I'll just you know, I'll
- 12:40Speaker 3: quote what I think Don James. I can speak for
- 12:42Speaker 3: Don James arrest his soul, but I don't think he'd
- 12:45Speaker 3: take him back. So and I think that there would
- 12:49Speaker 3: be a leadership component that would strengthen the fabric of
- 12:53Speaker 3: the team that would have way more tan or less
- 12:57Speaker 3: tangible ways, but would be very real. And so yeah,
- 13:02Speaker 3: no answers.
- 13:03Speaker 5: No.
- 13:03Speaker 1: Yeah, Here Mellen is with us x's and o's brought
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- 13:10Speaker 1: don't mean to make a left turn on you right here,
- 13:13Speaker 1: but you know, Seahawks also a huge topic this week
- 13:17Speaker 1: and our remaining time with you here on this Football Friday,
- 13:21Speaker 1: I'd like to get your thoughts on what's been a
- 13:23Speaker 1: big topic of ours this week, whether or not the
- 13:26Speaker 1: Seahawks are peaking right now and peaking at the right time.
- 13:30Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 13:31Speaker 3: Well, I look at the football team in five phases.
- 13:34Speaker 3: How you run the ball, how you throw it, how
- 13:37Speaker 3: you defend the run, how you defend the past, and
- 13:39Speaker 3: then special teams. All right, so special teams and how
- 13:42Speaker 3: they defend the run have been there's no peaking. They've
- 13:46Speaker 3: been awesome all through. They are all right. So now let's
- 13:50Speaker 3: let's talk about the past defense. The past defense. They
- 13:56Speaker 3: have been great all year except for these two blips,
- 13:58Speaker 3: right the Tampa Bay game and the Ram game. Seattle
- 14:01Speaker 3: is number two in the NFL in net opponent net
- 14:05Speaker 3: yards per attempt. Trust me, there's a very high correlation there.
- 14:08Speaker 3: So Seattle's number two to Denver. If you take out
- 14:12Speaker 3: the two worst games for Seattle, they go from five
- 14:15Speaker 3: point five yards to four point eight. They have a
- 14:17Speaker 3: point seven drop. You take the two worst for Denver,
- 14:21Speaker 3: which weren't nearly as bad as Seattle's.
- 14:23Speaker 2: They only have a point four drop.
- 14:24Speaker 3: So so you've got these these aberrations in the past,
- 14:28Speaker 3: evense So the Ram game was recent. I think that
- 14:31Speaker 3: Mike McDonald knows what happened. If they have to play
- 14:35Speaker 3: the Rams again, I think they're gonna be substantially better.
- 14:37Speaker 3: So I'll say that they are. You want to say
- 14:40Speaker 3: they're peaking, I think they've been great. Other than those
- 14:42Speaker 3: two games. The run game they the last three weeks,
- 14:47Speaker 3: the Seahawks have five hundred and fourteen yards in the
- 14:51Speaker 3: last three games. That if you take all the three
- 14:55Speaker 3: game at any point during the season, starting in Week three,
- 14:59Speaker 3: you could say, what's how many yards have we had
- 15:01Speaker 3: in our most recent three right? And we've been able
- 15:04Speaker 3: to do that since Week three? Does that make sense?
- 15:07Speaker 3: The average that at any point in the Seahawks that
- 15:11Speaker 3: they could say is we have rushed for three hundred
- 15:13Speaker 3: and fifty four yards in our last three games. That's
- 15:15Speaker 3: what they've been able to say that prior to those
- 15:18Speaker 3: excuse me, for the entire season, the second best three
- 15:22Speaker 3: game stretch was four hundred and forty seven and to
- 15:25Speaker 3: repeat the last three weeks, five hundred and fourteen yards
- 15:28Speaker 3: the best three game stretch. So I think that they're
- 15:30Speaker 3: peaking in the running game. Here's the part that concerns me,
- 15:32Speaker 3: and I'll rap it on the pass offense.
- 15:37Speaker 2: Passes.
- 15:37Speaker 3: We talked to yesterday about Sam Donald's dizzying completion percentage
- 15:42Speaker 3: when the ball is thirty yards or more. In the year,
- 15:45Speaker 3: Russell Wilson for his career was thirty six percent completion.
- 15:49Speaker 3: Sam Darnald this year is fifty seven percent. The second
- 15:54Speaker 3: best is forty two percent, and the average is twenty
- 15:56Speaker 3: four percent. That's how good he is throwing the ball
- 15:59Speaker 3: thirty yards more down the field. Just just an absolute sniper.
- 16:03Speaker 3: In the weeks one through twelve in that capacity again,
- 16:09Speaker 3: ball's over thirty yards. Seattle or the I'm gonna go
- 16:13Speaker 3: with the NFL averages nineteen yards per game for the
- 16:17Speaker 3: entire seies. Nineteen yards per game on balls that travel
- 16:20Speaker 3: thirty yards and more got me. Second place in that
- 16:23Speaker 3: stretch is forty one yards. Seattle was number one at
- 16:26Speaker 3: sixty yards, like fifty percent more than second place. That's
- 16:30Speaker 3: how That's how their long game was working in weeks
- 16:34Speaker 3: one through twelve. In the last six weeks, zero zero
- 16:40Speaker 3: not just zero yards, zero attempts, and so the long
- 16:45Speaker 3: ball has dried up. So if we're talking about peaking
- 16:49Speaker 3: five phases, two have been great throughout, run defense and
- 16:55Speaker 3: special teams. One has been great throughout other than two
- 17:00Speaker 3: little blips. That's the pass defense. One is clearly peaking
- 17:03Speaker 3: the run run offense. I would say the pass offense.
- 17:08Speaker 3: While there's been some efficiency things I could you could
- 17:11Speaker 3: argue they're peaking or at least stable, the big play
- 17:15Speaker 3: is there's no way you can argue that the big
- 17:18Speaker 3: play is peaking. In fact, the big play has diminished
- 17:22Speaker 3: and it's got to come back.
- 17:23Speaker 1: Better find it. Yeah, I think you're going to add that.
- 17:25Speaker 1: So against the last competition in the world.
- 17:27Speaker 3: And by the way, the correlation of thirty yard complete
- 17:32Speaker 3: completions with the ball over thirty yard five sixty five,
- 17:35Speaker 3: that's pretty damn high, really damn high. And there has
- 17:38Speaker 3: never been an offense in football. I would pose it
- 17:41Speaker 3: that that is successful throwing the ball deep down the
- 17:45Speaker 3: field and hasn't had that affect other aspects, whether it's
- 17:51Speaker 3: your short passing, whether it's your run. If you're successful
- 17:54Speaker 3: with the deep pass, that is going to impact other areas.
- 17:57Speaker 3: Favorably for your offense.
- 17:58Speaker 1: You're the man great up as always really appreciate it,
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- 19:02Speaker 1: here on truck and Buck good morning.
- 19:04Speaker 4: Sir, Good morning, good morning.
- 19:06Speaker 2: Are you ready for some playoff football?
- 19:09Speaker 4: Yes? I am.
- 19:10Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something change in your pulse. Does it quicken?
- 19:13Speaker 1: I mean you live this life, it something like natural
- 19:17Speaker 1: just cosmically take over for you at the stage in
- 19:20Speaker 1: the calendar.
- 19:22Speaker 4: Well, I would say it does, but as I've gotten older,
- 19:26Speaker 4: it's less and less. But I still love the games.
- 19:30Speaker 4: And boy, I remember when we'd have to prepare for
- 19:33Speaker 4: this and we got into the playoffs and it's an
- 19:37Speaker 4: exciting time for these guys. It really is.
- 19:40Speaker 5: Yeah, it's got to be exciting, and yet to some
- 19:43Speaker 5: degree probably chomping at the bit with the fact that
- 19:46Speaker 5: they just are going to sit back and watch it,
- 19:48Speaker 5: and obviously they want that buy. And yet what is
- 19:52Speaker 5: the feeling when you have a team that was playing
- 19:56Speaker 5: is playing good football, and yet now they have to
- 19:58Speaker 5: just sit back there and they don't get to go
- 19:59Speaker 5: out there and kind of smack somebody for the weekend.
- 20:02Speaker 4: Well there's a little of that, Buck, but I think
- 20:04Speaker 4: more than that, it's excuse the getting healthy and the
- 20:10Speaker 4: little things that you can overcome and your week of rest,
- 20:15Speaker 4: so to speak, and so that they're really ready to
- 20:17Speaker 4: play the following week. What happens is, though you're watching
- 20:21Speaker 4: the games, who's going to win? You're you know the
- 20:24Speaker 4: teams that are playing, you played most of them already anyway,
- 20:28Speaker 4: and then who's going to win? And that that's the
- 20:31Speaker 4: kind of a little bit of the exciting part. And
- 20:33Speaker 4: then when those games are over this weekend, now they
- 20:37Speaker 4: get in and and and this is, okay, this is
- 20:40Speaker 4: what we got to do against this team and so,
- 20:42Speaker 4: but prior to that, they're they're kind of getting in
- 20:45Speaker 4: there having fun, guessing and looking. But then it gets serious.
- 20:49Speaker 1: Monday, Mike Holmgren is with us. We had Mike McDonald
- 20:52Speaker 1: on earlier in the show. So yeah, so Mike Homer
- 20:56Speaker 1: and Mike McDonald, Big show, little show.
- 20:59Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 21:00Speaker 1: Anyway, I asked him about having the bye week, coach,
- 21:05Speaker 1: and he actually sounded like, I don't really know exactly how.
- 21:09Speaker 2: To handle this bye week.
- 21:11Speaker 1: I mean, you got a potential for four different teams
- 21:15Speaker 1: that you could face the next week in your first round.
- 21:17Speaker 1: How did you handle it when you had that bye week?
- 21:21Speaker 1: I'm assuming you had it at some point in your career,
- 21:23Speaker 1: and probably multiple times in your career, did you do
- 21:25Speaker 1: a little preparing for all four or did you just
- 21:28Speaker 1: prepare your own team and then wait till the results.
- 21:32Speaker 4: I think what we did, and looking back on it,
- 21:34Speaker 4: we prepared our own team and then waited for the results.
- 21:39Speaker 4: But also, you add a little bit here, a little
- 21:44Speaker 4: bit here, a little bit here, based on who you
- 21:46Speaker 4: might play, but you give your best estimate on who's
- 21:51Speaker 4: going to win the football games, you know, And I
- 21:53Speaker 4: think everyone does that. And then but you can't shove
- 21:57Speaker 4: in too much. I think I told you this story
- 22:00Speaker 4: this week that we did that in San Francisco when
- 22:02Speaker 4: I was an assistant coach and we just power practiced
- 22:06Speaker 4: against two teams we thought were going to be in it,
- 22:09Speaker 4: and then we played Minnesota and they beat us. They
- 22:11Speaker 4: shouldn't have beat us. We were a better football team,
- 22:13Speaker 4: but we didn't play very well. We'd kind of exhausted
- 22:17Speaker 4: ourselves in the practice and the preparation, I felt, and
- 22:20Speaker 4: so did Coach Walsh after the fact, you know. So
- 22:24Speaker 4: that taught me a lot, at least I based how
- 22:26Speaker 4: I practiced on not doing that. And then wait, you
- 22:31Speaker 4: got to wait until Monday, and then you crank it up.
- 22:34Speaker 5: Coach. We were just talking to Hugh and he was
- 22:37Speaker 5: talking about how some of the big plays down the
- 22:39Speaker 5: field have dried up. And I don't know if that's
- 22:41Speaker 5: you know, on the heels or since the four interception
- 22:45Speaker 5: game and the thing that we've talked about at length
- 22:47Speaker 5: about you don't we got to be careful about clipping
- 22:50Speaker 5: the wings of a guy because you will also lose
- 22:53Speaker 5: some of the potency of the downfield attack. Is is
- 22:56Speaker 5: that something that you see that needs to come back
- 22:59Speaker 5: or is it just, you know, depending on the situation,
- 23:02Speaker 5: the scoreboard at the time of the game, all that
- 23:04Speaker 5: that you're going to take your shots, or is it
- 23:06Speaker 5: something you would make a concerted effort to make sure
- 23:08Speaker 5: you're getting back in the system.
- 23:10Speaker 4: I think i'd make a concerted effort. You know, they
- 23:12Speaker 4: have they have people Heat and and and uh and
- 23:16Speaker 4: Jimue who can make those plays down the field. Also,
- 23:20Speaker 4: your tight ends. Their tight ends has shown that they
- 23:22Speaker 4: can catch. So if too much defense is against the
- 23:26Speaker 4: wide outs, that opens up a lot of stuff down
- 23:29Speaker 4: the middle of the field for the tight end and
- 23:31Speaker 4: what you would call big plays. So I don't think
- 23:35Speaker 4: it's a concerted effort. To just tone things down. But
- 23:39Speaker 4: at the same time, I know what you said and
- 23:42Speaker 4: I experienced the same thing. But I think now it's
- 23:46Speaker 4: cut at loose time is that you're gonna Yeah, you're
- 23:48Speaker 4: gonna see some shots down the field. I bet on it.
- 23:51Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean everybody's talking about this turnover issue.
- 23:53Speaker 5: We've talked about it.
- 23:54Speaker 2: With you many times.
- 23:56Speaker 1: And when your defense is playing this well, uh, I mean,
- 24:01Speaker 1: do you kind of force yourself into thinking that, man,
- 24:04Speaker 1: we need to be a little more conservative heading in here,
- 24:08Speaker 1: because the only thing that might trip us up our turnovers.
- 24:12Speaker 4: You know, that makes sense, But I don't think that's
- 24:16Speaker 4: the way it is, okay, you know. I think if
- 24:18Speaker 4: you're an offensive if you're an offensive play caller or
- 24:21Speaker 4: in charge of the offense, you want to move the ball,
- 24:24Speaker 4: you want to score points. You're not thinking so much
- 24:27Speaker 4: the other way. I remember, you know Friz Sherman, who
- 24:30Speaker 4: was a great defensive guy, and he was my defensive
- 24:34Speaker 4: coordinator in Green Bay. Before every game, I go up
- 24:39Speaker 4: to him and say how many points do we need today?
- 24:43Speaker 4: And it became kind of a joke, but I do it,
- 24:45Speaker 4: and he'd always say the same thing. He goes, I
- 24:48Speaker 4: think you should score forty and I'm going what It
- 24:53Speaker 4: just jarred me for just a second. Then he'd smile.
- 24:55Speaker 4: I said, oh, okay, you're kidding, aren't you. Yeah, okay,
- 24:57Speaker 4: I got it.
- 24:59Speaker 2: Well.
- 25:00Speaker 1: I have a feeling that if Clint Kubiak went up
- 25:02Speaker 1: to Mike McDonald right now, he might say how many
- 25:06Speaker 1: points do you need today?
- 25:07Speaker 2: And Mike be like three.
- 25:09Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 25:09Speaker 2: I think that's how confidence he is right now. Yeah, thirteen,
- 25:14Speaker 2: thirteen will be plenty. We'll win by double figures.
- 25:17Speaker 4: How many games do you win winning score thirteen points?
- 25:20Speaker 4: I mean, come on, you know, but I understand Mike
- 25:24Speaker 4: was on your show this morning, wasn't he Yes, yeah,
- 25:28Speaker 4: you know. Did he tip off anything?
- 25:30Speaker 1: Yeah, he told us the whole game plan, said he
- 25:32Speaker 1: wants to face the forty nine ers again.
- 25:35Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 25:35Speaker 2: No, no, he didn't. I mean, yeah, he was. He
- 25:38Speaker 2: was great. He was great.
- 25:39Speaker 1: No, he didn't really have many secrets, but he also
- 25:43Speaker 1: gave us a lot of good information.
- 25:45Speaker 4: I'd say, yeah, yeah, he's he's you know, he's a
- 25:47Speaker 4: fine coach, and it's done a tremendous job this year,
- 25:50Speaker 4: and I wish him well in the playoffs, and I
- 25:52Speaker 4: think they're gonna I think they're going to get there.
- 25:54Speaker 4: I think they're going to get to the Super Bowl.
- 25:57Speaker 5: H this is kind of a funny argument going around
- 25:59Speaker 5: on Seahawks Twitter or whatever. Is the idea of, Okay,
- 26:04Speaker 5: the Rams. We've seen the two games against the Rams.
- 26:07Speaker 5: You won one, you lost one, maybe outplayed them and
- 26:09Speaker 5: lost and got out played and won whatever. It seems
- 26:13Speaker 5: like there could be a collision course where those two
- 26:15Speaker 5: teams are meeting. You brought up just the idea that
- 26:19Speaker 5: in certain a certain world or a certain universe, you
- 26:22Speaker 5: might want to play them in the first week or
- 26:26Speaker 5: I guess in the divisional divisional round next week, having you,
- 26:30Speaker 5: you being rested as healthy as you could possibly be,
- 26:33Speaker 5: them having to go through already one game and trying
- 26:36Speaker 5: to recover from that. Would you rather see them if
- 26:39Speaker 5: there was a colision course, inevitably, would you rather see
- 26:41Speaker 5: them the first game that you're you're having to play
- 26:45Speaker 5: in the playoffs, or would you rather them still have
- 26:47Speaker 5: to make it through somebody else? Well, you have to
- 26:49Speaker 5: make it through somebody else as well.
- 26:51Speaker 4: I think I want them, I think, uh to see
- 26:55Speaker 4: them later. That means I won a game. They won
- 26:58Speaker 4: a game, you know, But that means we're that much
- 27:01Speaker 4: closer to the super Bowl, and eventually, I think, excuse me,
- 27:06Speaker 4: they're going to have to play each other. That's what's
- 27:09Speaker 4: going to happen, and then we see we'll see another
- 27:13Speaker 4: great football game because both teams are good, both teams
- 27:17Speaker 4: have great coaching. Yeah, it's gonna be but you know,
- 27:21Speaker 4: we have the home field advantage, which is a huge advantage.
- 27:23Speaker 2: I think Mike Hombren is with us right here on
- 27:27Speaker 2: Chuck and Buck. I don't know.
- 27:28Speaker 1: These are just things that I fantasize about. When I
- 27:30Speaker 1: think about Mike Holmbren's house, I have a feeling you've
- 27:33Speaker 1: got like a separate room that's just for the playoffs.
- 27:36Speaker 2: Like the TV's just a.
- 27:37Speaker 1: Little bit better, and the recliners just a little bit softer,
- 27:41Speaker 1: you know, a little more broken in, and the snacks
- 27:44Speaker 1: are just a little bit better.
- 27:46Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 27:47Speaker 1: You tell me, do you have any any kind of
- 27:50Speaker 1: special plan as the playoffs get underway here?
- 27:53Speaker 4: Well, it's a funny thing you should mention that, Chuck,
- 27:55Speaker 4: because my plan is, like, when I look at the
- 27:59Speaker 4: game anyway, is that the actual room we have, which
- 28:03Speaker 4: is very nice there. It's a in a family room,
- 28:06Speaker 4: but that has the larger TV set and all that
- 28:09Speaker 4: kind of stuff. But that's where Kathy reads and takes
- 28:12Speaker 4: her naps, and so I am delegated to the office,
- 28:16Speaker 4: which is much smaller, but the TV is smaller. I
- 28:19Speaker 4: have to sit closer to the TV. And but I've
- 28:22Speaker 4: got my books in there. And that's how That's how
- 28:24Speaker 4: we do it. Now are we going to do it differently? Now?
- 28:27Speaker 4: I'm going to propose that idea and say, you know,
- 28:31Speaker 4: my friends and you know, Chuck and Buck said we
- 28:33Speaker 4: should have the big TV. Yeah, you know on Monday.
- 28:39Speaker 4: I'll let you know on Monday how that worked out.
- 28:41Speaker 5: Chuck said it. I don't get me involved in that.
- 28:43Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if you could leave our names out,
- 28:45Speaker 1: that's fine. But I do think you ought to tell her, like, hey, wow,
- 28:49Speaker 1: playoff time.
- 28:50Speaker 2: It's big TV time.
- 28:51Speaker 5: For the big time.
- 28:53Speaker 4: The one thing I don't have to move like you would.
- 28:55Speaker 4: You don't have to move the Christmas I don't have
- 28:57Speaker 4: to move to Christmas Tree.
- 28:58Speaker 5: Yeah, coach.
- 29:02Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't use the phrase you can take a
- 29:05Speaker 1: nap anywhere, but I would try to know, Yeah, I would.
- 29:10Speaker 1: I would try to get the big TV for some
- 29:12Speaker 1: playoff viewing. But I'll leave that to you, okay, I
- 29:15Speaker 1: don't want to cause a rift.
- 29:17Speaker 4: All right, I will drop your name. I absolutely am
- 29:20Speaker 4: going to drop your name.
- 29:22Speaker 1: You know, Christmas Tree guy. Thanks, thanks for this all right. Well,
- 29:27Speaker 1: enjoy your weekend and we'll talk to you on Monday.
- 29:30Speaker 4: All right. See you guys have a good one, all right.
- 29:31Speaker 2: Coach Holman.
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- 30:09Speaker 7: These microphones are all over the place. What are you
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- 30:15Speaker 2: I don't know what happens overnight around this here.
- 30:17Speaker 7: Apparently it's a game of ring around the microphone.
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- 30:22Speaker 8: Yeah, then they're like, now let's see if they can
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- 30:28Speaker 1: All right, final segment of the week here on Chuck
- 30:31Speaker 1: and Buck in the morning. I see the handsome and
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- 30:57Speaker 8: Uh? The demand William Saga was all anyone could talk
- 30:59Speaker 8: about this Wese the QB cited deal to say it
- 31:01Speaker 8: you dub and get four million dollars and made all
- 31:04Speaker 8: the Husky fans so happy. Then days later he was
- 31:07Speaker 8: entering the trans I should say he was entering quote
- 31:11Speaker 8: unquote the transfer portal, something he couldn't actually do due
- 31:15Speaker 8: to said deal.
- 31:16Speaker 7: And then he announced he's happy.
- 31:18Speaker 8: To be staying at you Dub, which is a total
- 31:21Speaker 8: lie because he's not happy to be back at you Dub.
- 31:23Speaker 8: He's back at you Dub because he doesn't want to
- 31:25Speaker 8: pay him four million dollars. And Jedfish and pat Chohnny's
- 31:28Speaker 8: release statements. And they're definitely not thrilled with Williams, nor
- 31:31Speaker 8: are they welcoming him back with open arms. But they're
- 31:34Speaker 8: welcoming him back, and that's because they're not gonna let
- 31:37Speaker 8: him go and break the contract and then not get
- 31:39Speaker 8: their money.
- 31:40Speaker 7: All not the money, money money.
- 31:43Speaker 8: Meanwhile, I was singing the same thing. Kook fans have
- 31:46Speaker 8: been messaging the text line all week saying, see Husky fans.
- 31:49Speaker 8: Now you're whining. But where was that anger when Matier
- 31:52Speaker 8: and Ward left Wazoo. Well, for one thing, it was
- 31:56Speaker 8: at Wazoo. And another thing, this is.
- 31:58Speaker 7: A big one.
- 31:59Speaker 8: They didn't sign a legally binding shared revenue deal days
- 32:02Speaker 8: before they entered the transfer portal.
- 32:04Speaker 7: Big difference. They just entered the transfer portal. Did that
- 32:08Speaker 7: suck for you? One hundred percent?
- 32:11Speaker 8: But I mean, I don't get angry because people enter
- 32:13Speaker 8: the transfer portal.
- 32:14Speaker 1: I really don't think there's a comparison between the PAC
- 32:17Speaker 1: twelve Soga, yeah, and.
- 32:19Speaker 8: This particular But they've been oh, and you dub ruined
- 32:22Speaker 8: the PAC twelve.
- 32:23Speaker 7: You dubb didn't ruin the PAC twelve. It was USC
- 32:25Speaker 7: and UCLA.
- 32:26Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that they're unhappy. Still, Yeah, the dead
- 32:30Speaker 1: livesnot is wonderful and I feel bad for him. But yeah,
- 32:33Speaker 1: those are not exactly apples to apples.
- 32:36Speaker 7: They're not. Yeah, They're like apples to bananas at best.
- 32:40Speaker 2: It's like apples to mutton.
- 32:42Speaker 8: There you go, very similar. Yeah, you can eat that
- 32:44Speaker 8: on your carnivore diet.
- 32:47Speaker 4: Well.
- 32:47Speaker 8: Last night was the first of the college football semi
- 32:49Speaker 8: final games, as Ole Miss and Miami matched up at
- 32:52Speaker 8: the Verbo Fiesta bl. I saw a post on X Actually,
- 32:54Speaker 8: I thought it brought up a very good point. It's
- 32:57Speaker 8: ironic that Verbo is the sponsor of the Fiesta bal
- 32:59Speaker 8: when they don't allow parties at Verbo's. Yeah, I mean
- 33:02Speaker 8: festas party.
- 33:04Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 33:04Speaker 7: Yeah, it's an interesting matchup there. You cannot have a party.
- 33:11Speaker 2: What's considered a party. Sometimes I can have a party
- 33:13Speaker 2: with one other person.
- 33:14Speaker 8: Yeah, that's true. You are allowed to have a two
- 33:16Speaker 8: person party at a Verbo.
- 33:18Speaker 2: That is by myself.
- 33:19Speaker 1: Every time, Yes, Buggy played minor league baseball party anywhere.
- 33:25Speaker 2: That's that ruled.
- 33:27Speaker 5: I've been to.
- 33:27Speaker 8: That's true. Now for the game, it was great. It
- 33:31Speaker 8: had the drama, the intrigue, everything you could want in
- 33:34Speaker 8: a national semi Final. I'm not sure if you guys
- 33:36Speaker 8: heard this. Actually during postgame, Carson Beck said this, and
- 33:40Speaker 8: it wasn't talked about that much, but when he was
- 33:42Speaker 8: asked about heading into the national championship, his response was,
- 33:46Speaker 8: I'm the best in the world. There's nobody in this business.
- 33:50Speaker 8: But oh wait, no, that wasn't That wasn't him, Hurricane,
- 33:58Speaker 8: My apologies. Oh, next up, the Canes weight the winner
- 34:04Speaker 8: of tonight semi final between Indiana and Oregon, and it.
- 34:07Speaker 7: Is all on the line for Bucky and I.
- 34:11Speaker 1: It is on the line, but he's got a little
- 34:13Speaker 1: more on the line. Because you're not an Indiana fan,
- 34:16Speaker 1: you just.
- 34:17Speaker 7: Oh, he's an organ fan.
- 34:18Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I had no idea even fish shoes out
- 34:22Speaker 1: of his closet.
- 34:23Speaker 7: I figured you were just all in.
- 34:26Speaker 8: I just figured you were all in on this because
- 34:28Speaker 8: of the green jacket drafts, so you have more that
- 34:29Speaker 8: you're I don't.
- 34:30Speaker 5: Care about the green jacket draft. That's just a byproduct
- 34:33Speaker 5: of greatness.
- 34:33Speaker 2: Okay.
- 34:34Speaker 8: I figured if you hadn't picked the Ducks, you would
- 34:36Speaker 8: also be routed.
- 34:38Speaker 5: No, no, I definitely not be rooting for Indiana. Indiana
- 34:41Speaker 5: I will if they beat the Ducks.
- 34:44Speaker 8: Well, I was gonna say side note, if the Ducks
- 34:47Speaker 8: win and face Miami in the Natty, the tensions are
- 34:50Speaker 8: gonna be.
- 34:50Speaker 5: Oh open here, m Yeah they will hee.
- 34:55Speaker 7: I'll be there with yeah, me too, oh way, me too.
- 34:59Speaker 8: But if Indiana doesn't win, there'll be some entertainment in
- 35:02Speaker 8: the other side.
- 35:04Speaker 7: I could see it.
- 35:05Speaker 8: Wild Card weekend gets underway tomorrow. This is the time
- 35:08Speaker 8: of year where I get very annoyed that other people
- 35:10Speaker 8: don't schedule more things around the earth, that other people
- 35:14Speaker 8: don't look at the NFL schedule before scheduling things like,
- 35:17Speaker 8: is it that hard to look at the NFL schedule
- 35:19Speaker 8: before you decide you're going to throw a baby shower?
- 35:21Speaker 4: Oh?
- 35:22Speaker 2: No, who did that? Call her out by?
- 35:25Speaker 7: I mean it was last year. I'm still bitter. You
- 35:28Speaker 7: just don't go to that, Yeah I did.
- 35:30Speaker 5: Baby showers are dumb. You did send her some diapers.
- 35:35Speaker 7: And I love her.
- 35:36Speaker 5: Well, she's probably great, but she didn't.
- 35:39Speaker 8: She didn't.
- 35:39Speaker 7: Yeah, nobody, I mean, and this isn't just her. I've done.
- 35:42Speaker 8: I think I've gone to five baby showers this time
- 35:43Speaker 8: of year over the years.
- 35:46Speaker 2: Yeah, people can need to think more.
- 35:47Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like something Demand Williams would do, right, throw
- 35:51Speaker 1: a baby shower in the middle of the Super Yeah.
- 35:53Speaker 5: Yeah, write that down.
- 35:56Speaker 2: Don't do that.
- 35:59Speaker 4: Right.
- 36:00Speaker 5: This first mistake was like strike one and strike two.
- 36:04Speaker 2: Super Bowl.
- 36:05Speaker 7: We'll get out of here, get out.
- 36:06Speaker 5: For sure, no forgiveness.
- 36:08Speaker 7: Yeah, well that's it. I'm done. Cheers, go Hawks.
- 36:12Speaker 1: Have a great weekend out there. We will talk to
- 36:15Speaker 1: you on Monday morning. We're doing normal Monday morning quarterback.
- 36:18Speaker 1: I know we don't have a Seahawk game to react to,
- 36:20Speaker 1: but we got all sorts of playoff games. We will
- 36:22Speaker 1: know our playoff opponent by that time, So normal Monday
- 36:26Speaker 1: morning quarterback with Greg and Hugh and with a coach.
- 36:30Speaker 1: So until then, enjoy your weekend. Christopher kid Mark James
- 36:34Speaker 1: coming your way next on Sports Radio ninety three point
- 36:36Speaker 1: three KJRFM.